 Welcome to Dear to Dream. This is Debbie Daschinger and I have somebody that I am speaking with who's located It's so funny. The world is so small I want to say all the way in Costa Rica But it's such an illusion these days the world is truly small and in just a minute We're gonna start amazing conversation with Gerard Powell and this is going to be a story of sex drugs in ayahuasca he's got a book out and Thankfully, I can say the word shit on radio and this is a copy. Well, you could see a well-worn Red copy of his book, which is great It's it's really spoken in his own voice, which I enjoy very much It allows you to get to know him but it really takes you on somebody's extraordinary life trip that will wind us up with who he be today and I just want to say how honored I am Because this show dare to dream and thank you for everybody who chose to nominate my show Dare to dream is now nominated for a people's choice podcast award and so I'd love you to go there and vote for the show because it's really at this point all about the votes at A time when there's a gazillion podcasts and here's why I think it's more important So much bigger than I but the conversation we're gonna have today and the conversations I am honored to have every single week. 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You do have to click I think three times somebody said to get into entertainment clearly You'll see dare to dream vote tell your friends to vote and by the way subscribe to the show leave us a review because again Other people can find the show and enjoy the conversation too It helps and it makes a difference So my question to you is this what if you had a mission to provide Every one of your clients with a life-changing experience that was nothing short of a miracle and What if one out of every three of your clients rebooked with you before they left and You had a 96% life-changing satisfaction rate Possible we'll meet my guest Gerard Powell He is the founder and the CEO of Rhythmia Life Advanced Center Located in Costa Rica and This place and this man have a mission of passion and this fuels his commitment to share with me as gifts with its guests Gerard is a conscious thought leader entrepreneur Philanthropist and inspirational speaker the Rhythmia Life Advancement Center is the go-to Destination for a spiritually awakening vacation experience Gerard also founded Truth Enomics an online program teaching skills and insights essential to a life of manifestation One of the 1% Jerry made his millions from creating and selling multiple companies including that look calm a pioneer in mass marketing access to cosmetic surgery and My choice medical Inc. And you can learn more about Rhythmia at Rhythmia.com Jerry welcome to Dear to Dream. It's great to have you nice to be here. Do you prefer Gerard or Jerry? Excuse me, please Jerry is fine. Jerry's fantastic. It's so great Well, as I said to you before we started I feel your East Coast miss your roots and Yeah, I'm from New York. So for me is really familiar your rhythm that you speak and here you are We can see you're in a beautiful room. I like where I'd like to be on vacation right now. Thank you very much So you are in Costa Rica at Rhythmia while we speak. Yes. Yeah, I love you know, it's a wonderful place, honestly Tell me what is a typical day for you like they're in paradise? I get up every morning and work out and then I go to I usually have a workshop a day that I do and then the normal stuff of running the business we're a small business, you know Under 200 employee business. So we're in that the smaller range and and but then because of that small size there's lots of day-to-day activities that I get involved in from Management to counting and all that and then at the same time try to talk with all the guests So it's a it's a full-on. It's a full-on job. This one's a big one, you know And you mentioned that you that there's a course that you teach. Is that the truth and omics? Yeah, we do truth and omics a couple times a year here it's a book that I've that I've written that's not out yet and It'll be the next book that comes out and I don't know just the the overall Rhythmia Workload is half spiritual and half business, you know what that's like. It's a Kind of it's a crazy thing to try to straddle. Yeah Why Rhythmia? How did you or you and Brandy your wife come up with the name Rhythmia? so Rhythmia was the name of a of a company that I had for 20 years and it just when when the medicine told me to to To name this company it picked that from something I had which is crazy. Yeah I love it actually. I think there's great ease in that when Something is being birthed and it's an entity and it has its own voice It makes life really easy than having to try to rely on logic and you know grabbing its straws People had to write books and create visibility out in the world. So that makes a lot of sense actually to me Yes, you know what people may not know. So, you know your bio talks about your success and all of that But you know your story it's it's crazy like it's a movie, right? I probably didn't feel like a movie while you were living it before Rhythmia So before Rhythmia for people who don't know you are actually the personification of the American businessman rich powerful unhappy and Most of your previous experience you suffered you suffered addiction you suffered depression And you were incessantly trying to fill that hole deep within and you didn't have a whole lot of success Although you really did try so talk about Jerry. What's different for you? What do you now know? About how permanent healing can come about compared to all the other previous attempts Before you had your experience with medicine So so prior to my my medicine experience. I was You know in I think about Well, I had for five years. I had I had Seven day week Therapy for five days. It was six hours a day Uh-huh, and I mean that's a lot of therapy five years there and in previous to that I had passages and I was always looking for the answer and I just couldn't I could understand the words But I couldn't feel what that felt like, you know, man You know it's just just I Was so sad and I didn't even know what what happiness would Look like or what normalcy was I didn't have a gauge on any of that So, you know, I was suicidal and tried to commit suicide a couple times right before Trying plant medicine, right? It's very interesting a few weeks ago. Your chief medical officer was here on the show dr. Jeff McNary. Yes What an amazing individual and He we talked quite a bit back and forth one of the pieces he shared was the story from his perspective Running passages, which for those of you who don't know it's a rehab place in Malibu, California So he was the director at the time He really wasn't taking patients and in comes this intake form and information about some guy Gerard Powell and he's a hard luck case. They're having a lot of trouble. Yes, for whatever reason Divine inspiration He is guided to say out of nowhere. I'll take this guy on I'll take the case personally So I know the story of that and the creation of Rhythmia from his perspective But now I'd like to fill in the puzzle and get your story so how was it for you being in passages working with Jeff all those years and all those days and Dealing and grappling with your addiction Yeah, it was rough. I think I was a rough Client from his standpoint, you know because I was I was really messed up by a lot of a lot of things going on and you know one thing that You know made it difficult or more difficult for me is That I had resources that I couldn't You know, I couldn't I'd enough that I couldn't spend my way a lot of people with addiction reach a bottom because they get in financial trouble and that wasn't how my System worked, you know, I had enough resources that I wasn't going to get in financial trouble so So it's hard when everybody's telling you yes To get to get, you know that everything's okay to get to a spot That's bad enough to make a difference, but I got there not through financial issues. I got through my own depths through Sadness and pain in my life, you know, yeah, and that finally Led me to the point where I I searched for passages and then after that became involved in and As a patient of Jeff's every single day of my life and that went on for five years then Then finally it wasn't working not that Jeff wasn't working that that You know later, I'd come to find that he was just trying to keep me alive He wasn't even trying to help me because as diagnosed with multiple personality disorders that that that usually result in suicide in in most cases yet and So that's what I was up against tonight and even know it and and I was lucky enough to to get the opportunity to do plant medicine and that just Honestly changed everything in a in one night crazy as that sounds but true Sounds like you know, you talk about a bottom and of course I very much understand what you're saying And yes finances was one part for other people their bottom is their health is just giving out There's a choice. They're going to be here or choose not to be on the planet Of course relationships or marriages or children or jobs There's many ways being homeless that people can bottom out or not and it's interesting because You're clearly on a path. That's not a good one and Your one thread to grab on to is when you get this offer from this crazy offer from a shaman, right? you said come do this thing and Did you know did you have any idea what you were getting involved with? Did you do research ahead of time or was it just nothing else is working? Nothing else is working and I was getting suicidal again So it was time for me to do something So Lord you take dr. Jeff on a trip to Costa Rica to a not so fabulous looking facility and You medicine tell us about that Well, actually Jeff came later, but I went alone to to Costa Rica and and and just had to a place that was not Attractive or anything and it just I took the medicine and and got outside of my body and and flew to the moon and then landed on the moon and the moon started typing instructions to me and Sounds as crazy as sounds and and showed me an interactive Scenario of me Being sexually molested by my grandfather and I never knew that and I watched it in 3d and living color and and That was the thing that changed everything I understood why it was the way that I was and then it it actually merged me back with my soul and delivered to me a new heart on this one night and then Like the next day it said that that I had to buy a place and do this for other people and a and they A much higher way a much higher vibrating way and I decided to to take that on and to do it and Come and then week later Jeff came down with me and had a very similar kind of experience and decided that it was Something that he wanted to do with me and then after all this he he gave me a test called an MMPI and this test is the a Tool used to to Diagnose mental disorders and the crazy thing is I had nothing so the that medicine journey fixed me and since that time I've had a That's five years ago, and I've had a really Wonderful life of it. I I I met Brandi and and she She and I are no longer together, but she is my best friend and partner She's here with me all the time my son's vacation with they're like we're closer than we were where together So I had the most successful relationship of my life. I don't have a bad relationship with anyone I said terrible relations and We're we're getting towards 6,000 people here who've had the same experience as me the same exact experience We become you know the most successful ayahuasca base center in the world and and our lease we we believe that and in On Tripadvisor, we're the highest rated hotel of any type in the world higher than the world earth Astoria Higher than and we're a little little place in Guanatase Costa Rica. So everything Seems to be working in some kind of harmony that that first This situation happened with me and then it's been replicated almost 6,000 times and what's interesting about this is this is that that 9 when people leave they're given an electronic survey and the survey one at the day they leave 16 months later 94.72 percent so 947 out of every thousand people say that they had that same experience merger Who have I become merged back with my soul and heal my heart. They had the same thing Yeah, it's a nice 97.55 percent of them at six months say it's still working in their life And this was the week that changed their life So the same thing that happened to me is happening to them and that's what's crazy about this place I Love that. I've read that too, but it feels really kind of yummy hearing you say that it's so exciting This is by the way a medically licensed place. So this is what? Makes it separate from everything else out there I know for myself because I am going and many of you know this you've been hearing me talk about this and you're going to be Hearing me talk even more because I'm really going to be pulling back the curtain and doing some vlogging independent of this Yeah, I'm very much going to be expressing where I'm at right now I'll be interested even to go back and see the succession of where I am what I'm experiencing and what occurs And then who I become I'm so open Do I I'm really curious Jerry? Do you feel like the medicine calls to us that it literally Brings us forward when it's our time if it's our time to have the experience Yeah, I believe that I actually believe what happens is this the the medicine showed us that a All disease all disorder all addiction all sadness Comes out from the split of self and so so and then from this particular point When this becomes when when so people split to expand their consciousness This is a it's a part of the circle life the hero's journey and and then when that Split when there's nothing left in that split. That's when the soul asked to come back in and that's when The assist will happen energetically through medicine. So there's this whole process and it's a it's a crazy Scientific almost arithmetical process of of how this stuff happens when it comes back and it's a It's a beautiful thing to be in a business where we can actually see these people You know that the thing is when it happens to you It's it's wondrous, but when you watch it to have happened to other people in a Almost a mathematical roll out and you think wow, this is a soul factory. This is a place that just Is involved in this process and the process is happening To people it's just crazy. It's just it's it's so I don't know. It's beyond words It really is beyond words if you go to trip advisor and you read what these people say I mean, it's a it's really an amazing thing It is and you're a part of it. I think that's so beautiful. They had to take such a crap journey and have such a Wound you know and it's almost like you're so new like you really were meant to go there to including by the way it Makes so much sense to me to also see your history as a very successful business man That aspect as well in order to create the gift you're giving out into the world right now For all these people who you must have so much compassion for around the healing aspect Because you've been there intimately and now you can open the doors to this property You bought and that you're inviting all these people now you can come have your own experience You run it as a business man. You understand it as a human who's been through so much And it seems to me like a almost a soul's amends and a gift in a way How does it? Yeah, it feels the same way. So like redemption is real So this this thing that that people saying and then what's so funny thing when you're in when you're in the cosmos When you're in the Astral's and you see code like tons of code and you see balance sheets people have this balance sheet of Of everything you've done in your life. That's been Good and everything you've done or everything you've done in your life. That's Helped people everything you've done in life. That's hurt people and you see this balance sheet and that Redemption becomes real that that that you sort of can't undo what you've done But you can do good to balance these things out and it really is it's you know, it's an archaic Catholic Thought process, but there's real teeth in it and unless I've been dead I've done lots and lots and lots of journeys 270 Wow lots of journeys. So I've been over and that side a lot and and That side which is the death side, right? That's that's where you're going to die yet the death side. It's a It's amazing the the amount of truths that we experienced in our life here that are Ancient teachings and then that line up directly with what's going on the other side. So So there's a lot to it. There's really a lot to this medicine. There's a lot to life There's a lot to progress. There's a lot to redemption. There's a lot to all What you do with your life? It's it's not just a bunch of people trying to To shame you or guilt you it's nothing like that is that there really is this thing that you're supposed to move forward You're supposed to progress and you're supposed to become better at serving Your brothers and sisters. This is the thing of life. Yeah Mmm, we're gonna take a quick break and when we come back I'm going to be asking Jerry a little bit more specific about This idea of the life review if you will and we'll find out if that's something everyone experiences Or if this is quite individual also, what is it like when you're a yes there? 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This is your number one transformation Conversation it will always be free to you and you'll always be part of the team Energetically and to help the show flourish and be sustainable on the business end go to patreon.com slash dare to dream and If you're just tuning in this is Debbie dashinger and I am interviewing the American entrepreneur Gerard Armand Powell who founded Rhythmia Life Advancement Center in Costa Rica in 2015 after an experience with plant medicine which helped him overcome addiction and depression Rhythmia is a medically licensed luxury retreat center that focuses on spiritual awakening and Facilitates plant medicine journeys. You can go to Rhythmia calm So yeah, let's start with what the guest experience So he's just flown to Costa Rica, which is by the way a super easy trip and very inexpensive Flights and so they just arrived in Costa Rica and what happens? What is the beginning ish of this journey look like? Well, they had picked up by the airport and one of our vans and then they get played videos about About walking the labyrinth, which is the first thing And they walk the labyrinth and they get checked in and then they go to Medical to get their physical to make sure that that you're screened for For medical on the phone But then you have a live medical when you're here to make sure you're okay to do plant medicine and once you're cleared You're given a number of classes that are introductory So it's a introductory class over what to expect and then the first night you have breath work which is transformational breath work and the next morning is workshops on on On how to drive the medicine because there's there's you know, there's there's the medicine is such a vast thing without without having Some may explain to you what some of the ins and outs are the medicine you can waste a lot of time We have people that drink the medicine four and five hundred times. It doesn't even They never get it. Uh-huh. So yeah, so so why did I the woman who drank over? 640 times that came here and she's been drinking for 30 years and And said, you know, she wishes she came here first Because she wouldn't have to do that You know one two or three four times. Yeah, so so there's classes on that and then and then you go to lunch on Monday, and then There's usually guest speaker and we've guest speakers all different types from Michael Bernard Beck with to Foster and Kimberly Gamble and all so many different thought leaders 50 a year Has been on the show speaks. Yeah So it's this is going to be like family. Yes. Yeah, and then And then you go prepare and you drink medicine so the the medicine program is four nights of medicine two nights of breath work and And then and then all the programming every day It's a it's the results speak for themselves the results are ridiculously amazing. Yeah And there's yoga, right? And there's organic food offered there and what else? meditation colonics, there's a massage There's but there is a system to it Every single thing and it's a it's the sum of its parts that is that is so great, you know, it's a The whole is a there's a sum of all of these parts what the the the thing that's Most interesting is is the transformation and the fact that it remains people go to workshops all the time And there's there's a million great workshops out there but one of the the earmarks are is that After two weeks generally speaking the the gains that were Garnered in the workshop have been given back two weeks later so so so And the reason that is that we believe is that the conscious mind which which represents only 3% of what your your happiness is right yet and in the subconscious mind is the 97% and In all of these most these workshops deal only with your conscious mind So they're great as much as 3% can affect the whole they're great, but this work is deep shadow primal Reconstructive work and and that's why the effects are permanent and they really are permanent the The medicine said not even death takes it away So when you see people on the other side that are whole so what one one great thing with With plan medicine is that that most people have relatives that they're dying to see and so During the course of their work while they're here They generally get to visit with their with their relatives and what's super interesting is that? You know the spirit of that relative which is the ego really does not change So if if uncle Tom was an asshole when he was here Generally, he's an asshole over there So it's like it's that that this is work. That's permanent So when you make a change here, it's a change you carry forth forever not even death takes it away Hmm Earlier you alluded to this aspect of splits in a personality and So I just want to tie in what you're saying and a little bit of what happened earlier So what you're saying right now is the journey once we get there. So there's a live blood cell analysis There's an aura photo. There is a full medical Checkup so you're really in good shape and I love that I I appreciate being held like that and then I know from Dr. Jeff you talked about you know, we talk about what are your goals? We get really clear we define them you get an individual program, which is wonderful This is not cookie cutter and ways that you strategies that that are developed in order to achieve them And earlier you were talking about the splits and I was thinking also, you know trauma creates splits I mean, this is a very shamanistic point of view that there's a trauma, right? And the way we protect ourselves sort of like a multiple personality most of us carries on but the thing that was so traumatized gets stuck in that moment in time and Continue functioning we go on but what shamans have the ability to do of course is to go back in and reclaim them And that's what I hear you saying when you say you went to the moon You were able to be Detached from your life and yet view it and see things that you could never concede to yourself It actually happened and that's when the integration and some of the healing began So I know Dr. Jeff mentioned something similar of course his situation what he viewed in his life quite different Yes, is this something that happens for everyone? Do you have that disconnect and that viewing of your life or pieces that are an import or is Maybe you'll have it on one journey and not on another or never. How does that work? The majority of people Experience something extremely similar And that's what's so interesting about about plant medicine see Plant medicine is trying to do three things for you. It's trying to show you who you become on earth It's trying to merge you back with your soul and heal your heart And what is a soul merger a soul merger? So all of us Between when we're conceived we have about 20 percent of people split in the womb from from So so this split happens and the split is You just leaving your soul Within your aura your soul still within your aura, but you leave your soul To become something else that creates safety for yourself That's it That's all it is and this is just putting that back together And so the medicine is trying to do the exact same thing for you It's trying to the problem is it cannot merge you back until you acknowledge who you become Because because without that you're just gonna split split split the split can hold So it's crazy in the truth. Yeah acknowledging who you are and Maybe you're really just a glimmer of who you actually came here to be at this moment. Yeah So then does that mean that you can actually get clarity? Further clarity about your purpose like you got a title for your resort Right. You got a you got a clear path. Oh, buddy, you're going back and you're gonna be opening the doors to help other people So how do we get a lot of clarity or life shifts career changes love changes personality changes? The the beautiful part that plan medicine says and the moon said is that when you know who you are When you know who you are you've emerged soul and you have a new heart, you know exactly what you want You don't you don't have like people come to plan ceremony with a hundred questions For me should I be working at Bear Stearns like Right and the great thing about plan medicine is that if you if you just follow the program It's trying to do And you get your heart feel you know exactly if Dave's the right guy for you You know where you should be working where you should be living You know if you're in the right relationship the right job the right physical location You know all this so The sign of someone who's been here and been through it is that they have no questions So if you and you can see somebody who's operating without question They have definitive movements. They have definitive actions. They have definitive personalities That that you know, I know what I want. This is where I'm going. This is where I should be those are Amazingly good qualities and and and they don't come from From having something else answer questions they come from being merged You know, there's nobody can tell you if Dave's the right guy There's not a person on earth who can do that, you know, you know So let's say and and Pete folks go go on the website, right? I mean You'll not only receive a great download of information For those of us who are also visual It's a beautiful thing because you can literally see this resort You can see the beautiful statues and you can see this I want to call it a maze But it's not a maze. What did you what did you call a lab? Yeah, that's pretty spectacular Kind of spooky. I hope you can get out But you know, you can check that out and you and what I find really fascinating is the photos and this seems very typical of these mats That are around in a circle. There's a shaman. You know, it's very beautiful It's sort of a a hut And you're protected and you have a place to lay down should you choose to so I love all of that Having not yet experienced it Let's say that a person has drunk the brew And an uncomfortable situation starts. Maybe it's frightening or confusing messages Maybe it's visions or sensations that You know, one doesn't know what to do with their process So in your facility, not other people's because I think it's quite different. You hold people What is it that you recommend we do if that stuff comes up after we drink the ayahuasca or another plant medicine? So with ayahuasca The ayahuasca actually is trying to put you in a state of confusion of Sadness of conflict of non-understanding. Oh good You're beautiful by the way, I have a beautiful way about you. Yeah And and uh, and I mean that in the most sincere way your light is right on so But but the medicine is actually trying to get you in the state of confusion and and to reprogram you so Uh, what we can do for you is we can assure you that the state that you're in is the right state We don't want to change that state because Now we're impeding the medicine's purpose If we say, oh, don't worry things will get better and don't don't worry like that's not a don't worry place. It's a This is a place of bring You're going to go through it here anybody who Who tells you that this is a walk in the park is lying Just uh Out of those 95 94 72 that get this This miracle to happen All of them without exception will say that at one point during the week they wanted to leave So there's nobody that there's not an easy way To do this You're looking at a lifetime Of therapy and corrective action in one night in one week It's uh, this is a hard work. This is not this isn't for the faint hearted if you If if you're really not serious about your own transformation There's a lot better things you could do with your week and then come here This is really for people who are serious about change serious about progressing Serious about changing themselves or their family. This is uh, this is hard work And so if that is to happen, so let's say in 100 and like I kind of love the bring it aspect of life because Healing like this compared to The gazillion years where you may never get ahead or Incrementally, that's not appealing to me. I mean, I know I came here to do big things But really I also came here to have a damn good life. So Happiness is is not underrated I want to say so so sitting on the mat perhaps something happens probably something happens Is are there facilitators? Are there shamans? Are there people who can understand how to communicate with you while you're in the plant medicine? Yeah, so So what we have that nobody else Seems to track as we have metrics that so I keep data on everything so we know the sweet spot of healers to To clients and and support staff to clients what the right number is and it's it's less In other words, if you make if you go too far too too much help The miracle rate suffers Because a lot of this is an experience of Me and relying on myself And without enough it suffers But there is a sweet spot and we hit that sweet spot and that's what creates the The miracle rate that we have here. Yeah well I hope you all will ponder And I'm going to take a very quick break and I just want to preface by saying if something's stirring in you I'm just going to ask you to trust that and I'll tell you why in a minute And I've got an exclusive offer for you because it would be awesome to create the money to go to with me up Right and take a beautiful trip there Inside and out And it's not an expensive place by the way. 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I'm so enjoying it As a dare to dream listener three months free think if this business plan you can set up your own online courses That exclusive deal thnk.cc Slash dev And this is dare to dream Again, please vote for us at the podcast awards people choices were under entertainment And i'm interviewing gerard powell Who is the founder of rythmia at rythmia.com? gerard Let's see so many questions so many questions so many questions I'm going to start with you What do you do on a daily basis? That keeps you grounded And keeps you in a space that feels really delicious to you It's unfair because I live here So like I I don't have a choice I get up and there's yoga going on and farm to take organic food and colonics and medicine and like I live I honestly live in a bubble So when I it's so crazy uh, I lived in malibu for years and and and uh Uh, and even when I go back to malibu it's too Chaotic for me like I live in such peace here in a really peaceful bubble But but I noticed that you know people that That we that we work with yeah that that our star little army of six thousand When they go home The the thing that becomes super important to them is having a daily practice And and and being mindful of what they eat if they can do those two things It can make such Amazing changes in their life and and you know, you don't have to spend An hour in meditation as a matter of fact most people that have jobs Really can't do an hour of meditation a day. It's just the Between jobs and kids and families. It's just you know, the The two thousands in the United States are not designed For an hour of meditation a day. It's just not so Little things like 20 minute meditations or or spiritual mind treatments or Or transformational breath work 99 breaths Things like that makes such an incredible difference in what what happens with With people when they go home It's the the single most important thing that that I think can be done with them I'm looking forward to that. I heard great things about the breath work Yeah, the breath work is great Yeah, I've heard it's very very powerful and So I just wanted to ask people this question to Give you a little nudge Because you know, I can only say I'm being real I had a lot of judgment about this stuff And life my life is very interesting how things present right which feels like a very s word And I've never done s so forgive me, but I just literally mean I think the universe is pretty clear I Many years ago read stealing fire by Steven Kotler Wow, which talked about things like plant medicine and molly mdma ecstasy Healing ptsd and and doing for people that nothing else could do and that was the first time I was like, okay I need to take all that judgment that I've had and here And as as life would have it He has now been on my show. We've had some chouis conversation. I'm now taking I'm a writer I teach writing I help people take their books to bestseller I help people get interviewed and now I am going to learn from a master And go take the workshop with him in between all of that happening another piece of flow is that I hear from A friend of mine in december. He's going to this place called Rhythmia. Do we want to go and I'm like I was still a bit in that state And you know like never say because it's going to come back and be a yes. I agree. That's the right Right and when it came back it was it was a train Thing after person after situation put in front of me put in front of me put in front of me I'm suddenly like, okay. I'm a yes. I'm gonna go do this. I don't know where I'm going I don't know what it looks like and boom I meet your team like kind of out of nowhere. I connect with you. I meet your team and it's everything I would have wanted I love that I can feel confident and once that's done I contact my radio station and say I want to do this thing, but I'm so sure it's illegal if I say it on air They're like no go do it. We're gonna go do it too How cool how cool then I take a hike In southern california. I come off the mountain the wrong way alone with my dog And I end up in a parking lot near a police station And there's a ceremony happening in the middle of a public park and I'm here. This is for me Absolutely Absolutely, and then I know josh josh who's a friend of yours reaches out to me and I'm like connection connection I look on facebook my my dear friend natalie is saying i'm in rythmia just changed my life And more recently fourth of july i'm walking out with some friends of mine Who said uh, we brought it up And um, they said oh can we go with you in october and it's just been People I never thought would even ask So he hasn't stopped. I'm loving all of this affirmation That's meant to go and have this experience and I am also so grateful for the conversation with you and jeff and the others from rythmia coming on because Actually the nerves that I had are really quelling and the excitement is getting pretty giant Fent having we're excited to have you super excited. You're gonna do great. I can see in your eyes. You're at peace You're gonna do good. I'm doing very good. Yeah well What is there's some shit that the moon said that you can tell us right here That would be helpful to us Yeah, like if this I'm gonna just say this to you If you hear this and you think oh, that's bullshit. It's not your time If you hear this And you think oh, that's bullshit, but something in me is drawn to it That's your soul's response to wanting to to heal again And that's your soul's response to wanting to merge again So the longer something's once it snaps with you Then It has you and so you can try to get away But it's going to keep drawing you back and drawing you back until You do it and and that's the thing this is It's it's been calling to you because I want you to do it. Yeah And some people will do will they do it once and never again? Yes Yeah, some people do it once and they're done forever And some people Want to go deeper and deeper you can merge your soul Nine times because there's nine aspects to your soul but But most people merge once and they're they're good for the rest of their life Are there always snakes and archetypical characters or not? Because there's not always anything it's not it's not always the same for everybody You know, it varies and it's different for for all people Yeah, so this is dare to dream Jerry Lord you've lived quite a few lifetimes in this one What are you next dare to dream? What are your future dreams or goals? My my thoughts around what goals are has changed dramatically So, you know for the rest of my life if I can Be involved in this kind of business And be in the healing arts in this way I'm I'm doing everything that I would like to do so I have uh I have this project and then a spiritual dating software application that's August called rhythmia love our love and uh It's an amazing thing. So I'm working those two things and that's it for me. That's it And what is the possibility of meeting a sloth? When one comes yeah, they're around, you know, there's a man-eater who lives right right here. So you can have a man-eater some snake And our sloths I I don't know are they approachable or are they quite? There's actually sanctuaries that that happen the confession and everything Oh my god, this is bucket list lots of monkeys a real lot of monkeys. Yeah Oh my god. Yeah, I'm I'm rather obsessed with sloths. I think they're the most hilarious adorable I need more sloth energy for sure You're gonna get her so I need to be more just I will connect with my spirit animal while I'm there Fantastic Well, I cannot wait to meet you in person This has been just a divine time to connect and to get to know you and I'm so sorry for all you went through because it sounds really painful and yet I'm so grateful you were willing to go That far in your life in order to come back and bring this level of treasure to all of us So thank you. I'm so happy to be your guest. I I'm number one. I'm looking super forward to meeting you I'm thrilled to be your guest. I think you're gonna do wonderfully here. I really do I think this is going to be Just the most amazing experience of your life. Yeah I feel this as well. And so people who are interested I will be there october 12th through the 19th. You can go to rythmia.com. They take really good really good care of you And I do want to say one thing. There's there's people that have lived all kinds of lives that come here and say that that last night was The greatest night of my life. I mean, that's people that have lived life. I mean the actors and actresses and football players and golfers and Surfers Every that say this was the week that changed their life So cool. Yeah, and a lot of them are on youtube by the way besides this book They also have a really great documentary out. You can find it very easily and for free by the way on youtube So check it out that will also if you're feeling the call Of the wild it'll bring you in even further And I end today's show with a quote from Graham Hancock Which is there are all kinds of ways to challenge ourselves Some people do it by climbing a mountain or scuba diving The most profound and challenging or deals is to drink ayahuasca It is in a way the ultimate adventure And next week because this conversation keeps going. I've got john jake up who is the director of marketing for rhythmic life Yes He's gonna be here and he serves through healing and teaching He's gonna be talking about the universal principles that govern our lives And for those of us who go to agape I go once a month to a sunday service I love that right. He is one of the practitioners So this is going to be wild to find out how he started there and ended up here Again subscribe to this conversation and remember the secret of success is having the courage to begin In the first place Thank you, terry. Thank you again. Thank you so much