 was dancing. Yeah I was just a little. How's it going? Can you hear me? I can hear you. Lynette and John is here. Oh hi guys. They've been here a while. I know they were chatting when I popped in here about 10 minutes ago. Janine I'm not sure who M homequist is. Nice the name. You guys were little chatterboxes. They were. They were talking about hometowns and some lineage Irish lineage lineages. Kathy had a good question about let's see where did that go. She wanted to know if adding dates to the guest challenge counts and I said of course because we're not really keeping score. Yeah I wasn't saying that to be a smart alec. I just this is kind of an informal challenge that we do so we don't really keep track of things but it you know the more profiles you guys can find dates for the better and it improves improves the database. So yes yes it counts. Julie you do keep track of some things right. I do. Well we keep. You know me. Well we can't actually I kind of piggyback on to what a lush has because he you know through the data doctor reporting he does four of our error or suggestions 131 to 132 133 134 which all address profiles that don't have dates either no dates on the entire family or no dates on a profile but maybe dates on the connected profiles. So he keeps he keeps account of what's out there and so yeah I do kind of watch those statistics. I'm gonna make a confession. I didn't get those updated this week. So what's on the space page is not up to date but I'll try and get that done this afternoon. I am the only one home right now and my dog wants in. I can still hear you and talk to you though. Let's see who else is here. Hello. It's always about the dogs isn't it. Dogs and food. Your dogs always show up. I know. And one way or the other. Last week or last time we think we talked about dog training. Yes and my my grand dog Charlie and his buttons. Yeah so so yeah it's it's been a very busy week in my household. People coming and going and including myself I've been out and about a lot this week and I just didn't get to prepare for Friday date night like I would like I wish I could. So I don't really have a fun little slideshow or anything. So that's not as much fun but I do have I had an idea. I wondered if you guys knew about the index for the surname pages. Have you ever seen that? I think so. Okay if I'm talking if you're talking about what I'm thinking about. Okay well first I'll put up a let's see here I've got I made a little banner. So if you go to that URL you will find let me go over and share my screen. You will find that page. I don't know if anybody's ever seen this before. Is that what you were thinking about Katie? No I was thinking about when you click on a surname. Oh yeah. List everybody. That's not that's not the same. Okay so what happens when you click on one of those links? Well if you go up as you can see it this is like just the A page or part of the A page. So this just gives you an index of all of the names that we have on wiki tree. There's some weird ones look at this. So obviously this is not this isn't entered correctly. Yeah. Yeah so and actually it could be entered correctly. I haven't taken a look at the profile but this is I like to dig around in here sometimes and just see what's out there because sometimes you'll find profiles that like this had the surname entered incorrectly and you can contact the profile manager or maybe the the the project that it should be associated with and help get that fixed. Now if you don't have any experience with that don't worry about it. Somebody will fix it at some point. It's not it's probably not connected to anything and it's not going to hurt anybody if it's sitting out there. But at some point it should be fixed or addressed and we can get that squared away. I love digging around in the surname index because you just never know. Wait okay click on click on a surname. I want to see. Okay so yeah so let's go here and the ones that are linked actually will take you to the surname page. The ones that are not linked are just one I believe it's just a single profile. Yeah I think so or like less than yeah number. So here's I'm going to say a chart a chart. So if I click on that and come over here I can sort by birth and I see that there are two profiles here that don't have any dates on them. Hold on hold on your your your sping froze. Ah no no. Oh you know why? Well that was silly of me. Hold on let me go back to my screen sharing. Let me go to it's because I only shared a tab. That was silly. Oh here I'll just do my whole screen. We're gonna get the the tube of infinity. Oh here it goes. Here we go. Okay so I'll do that again. So here's the index page. I started here and I clicked on a chart. I can close that which brought up this list and then I can go to that page or that list and this you're very familiar with I'm sure. Well up for a surname anyway. So as you can see we can sort by birth and then it makes it very obvious which ones don't have a birth date or any date in it. So cool. Yeah so then if I go to Joseph's profile. I see he's got a couple of links in here. I'm not sure what that is. Oh they've just linked to his own profile. That's okay. People are still learning and we see that he was married in 1836 so it would be pretty easy to estimate a date as long as we think he she's his first wife or you know you can start digging and do a little research. She doesn't have any dates on her profile either. So this is another fun way if you're a wiki tree nerdy person like me to find profiles to work on. I find it to be rather entertaining to go in hearing to this. There was a question. Oh yes. What's the difference between green and black links in the list here in this list. I believe that so like you see here there's only one profile here and for some reason we don't link to the surname list. I don't know why I I don't have the answer to that but let's see what happens. Yeah there's only one profile for that and I don't know why those aren't linked. I would need to find somebody who knows more than I do to answer that question. But you can always get to the link by just copying the name and putting it into the search box up here. So I'm not okay. No not the black ones are not ones you already clicked on in this situation. Correct correct. I was looking at the chat. Yeah I can zoom in too. Does that help. So like I've clicked on this one because it's blue. This is an unusual name. But like a char isn't linked right. Right. I don't know and I can find out. I don't have an answer for why those aren't linked. Oh maybe it's because of the privacy settings. We have unlisted and red and I really shouldn't be logged in on my account when I'm doing stuff like this. So I could have something to do with that. Let's try this one and see if that holds true. This is one of those things I've never asked about. Interesting. It doesn't even show. So I'm not sure. There's a question. I'll write it down and I'll find out. So that's what I can do. So guys in the, or not guys, everybody in the chat. Has anybody else seen that before? Has anybody ever used that? The genealogy listing. No it's just wikitree.com slash genealogy and you can get to that page with all the surnames listed. It's interesting that it's slash genealogy and not slash surnames. I know. Well I think it's because if you go to, here let me, I'm not sharing anymore. Let me go back here and share again. So for example, if I wanted to do my surname I could go to, and it's going to take me to the genealogy page for that surname. So I think that's why it's in that, it's not really, I guess that's not really the namespace but that subdirectory or whatever we want to call it. So that's why if you take the surname out and press enter, you'll get back to the index. That's neat. Yeah, I thought it was cool. There's so many different surnames. Yeah, so there's so many different ways to find information on wikitree. So I always recommend exploring as much as you can. I like to just go up sometimes and go to the little menus on the top that just kind of start playing with stuff up there because you just never know what you'll find. Yeah. And stuff's being added. You know people, people write apps through the app, the app app's project and sometimes they get added to the menus. So sometimes new toys show up there and they're so much fun. Yeah, and Lynette says in so many ways to spell them. That could be good though if you are not sure on somebody's surname, you can go on that and see which surnames are very close but not quite. Yeah, it's a good point. Yeah, that's a really good idea. If you know how it starts, you might be able to find something. I just thought of that for one of my husband's family. I'm not exactly sure the spelling because I only have like one record and it's kind of hard to read. Yes, and then there's always the creative spellings in the census listings. Yeah, it's always a joy. Yeah, that's why I'm thinking that. Yeah, I know. Has anybody ever found anything that kind of cracked you up when you figured out what the real spelling was? I found some phonetically spelled things. I went, well, no wonder nobody can find these people. Right, yeah. I'm making myself a note about that page to find out why only some of them are linked. Hi Pip. Hi Pip. He says he'll see a new member with what he thinks is unusual only to find out there's like thousands of them. I do that when I'm rangering. I like to look at all the different surnames that go past. Yeah, that really unusual sounding surname. It's not real often that you run across one where you see that the person is the first profile, you know, profile number one for a surname that doesn't happen very often anymore. Or well, when I add dash ones, I'm like, did I spell this right? Did I make an error somewhere? Yeah, that's a good thing to look for. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. And I know the greeters sometimes when they notice a dash one, they'll they'll say, Oh, did this person enter their name wrong? Because sometimes people will and you know, they'll type over or whatever. And you're like, Oh, you can fix it. So that's cool. I don't know. What else do we want to talk about today? I didn't I don't have stats. I'm interested to hear what kinds of things you guys are curious about. Don't add don't ask me wiki tree plus questions, though. I love to use wiki tree plus, but I am not an expert. So you guys could probably teach me a few things. Katie, can you teach me things about wiki tree plus? Probably. What is the same thing? You just go on and you fiddle with it and try it out and Yeah. Yeah, I've been trying to carve out some time to, you know, to just clear out some of the stuff in the wiki tree admin category that you guys use. And I can't I haven't even been able to do that for a couple weeks. So I got a few names out of there this week. But that's about it. Summer, things will slow down. Yeah, it's colder. Maybe maybe I'm going to Arizona for the winter. Yeah. Oh, nice. Yeah. Well, that's the plan right now. We're hoping Loretta, I don't know if unsourced profile numbers are coming down. But you know, we're all we're always we have a number of efforts that address unsourced profiles. We have number one, this effort, our dates effort, because you can't add dates without adding sources. So the suffer, we have the connectors that add sources, we have the sorcerers who add sources. And of course, our source of fun is coming up. Can you believe that's almost here already? No. I think registration is going to open soon. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. Where's the summer gone? And then it's it's in October, right? So it's like a month and change out. Yeah. Yep. Yep. So one of the things about unsourced profiles that I would like to talk about here, let's go to the help page. I know I'm not sharing right now, but I will in just a second. Let's see. So on wiki tree, we talk about sources a lot because we do want people to add sources. There's a couple of things about that, though, that we need to all remember a lot of times people who come here, especially since we're free. A lot of times this might be a new genealogists first. That's a lot of S's there. First stop. So they're still learning. Some people don't understand what we mean when we say we want a source. So, you know, a lot of times we see things like family search.org. Not realizing that's like saying I found it in a book at the library. So, you know, we need to help people that are entering stuff like that because they probably just don't realize that they need to be more specific. So if you see a member doing that, just be nice and say it's very helpful. When you find a record on family search, they tell them about the citation that they can copy from the bottom because that's a lot of a lot of times that's the place where people start because it's easy to find records there. So that might be their first experience with a repository. So just, you know, help people out. Show them what they can do and what is helpful to the next person who might be looking at the profile. Because there's two things that I always think about. Number one, they might be brand new to genealogy. Number two, they come into Wiki Tree and it's a little overwhelming at first. And they don't know what we're looking for. So let's help them. Let's tell them how to add a citation and where to find it or how to put one together. And then explain how, you know, a lot of people show up here not thinking about the implication of working on a single family tree. You're not just working for yourself. You're putting information in that anybody needs to be able to understand when they look at a profile. So most people get here and they don't, that just doesn't click, you know, because most people have either been working by themselves on their desktop computer with like, what is the name of the roots magic. Thank you, roots magic, which I've never used. And they're not they've jot stuff down. It's like, Oh, I found the death record, you know, or I have it on my shelf over here or whatever. So they need to understand that it really helps a genealogist who come along later to not only say, it came from the death record, but to say what was on the death record. Like, it had their parents names and, and they their parents names were this, it had where they lived, it had their wife's name, or you know, who was the informant on the death record, tell us who that was. So, you know, they they need to our newer members that have not worked on a single family tree before, get an opportunity to learn how to improve their genealogy skills, because they have to write it so that anybody can understand, you know, what they found. So just be helpful to people. That's the, you know, a couple of things that I always think of when I think of new members coming in. And then we have pit needs to be nice. Pip be nice. I thought Pip was always nice. Oh, apparently not. He has always nice to me. Wait, what did he say? He said, even if I want to slap. Yes, I must be nice. It can get frustrating when you deal with the same thing over and over and over again. So just take a breath and walk away. Yeah, don't we do D. W. W. A. And Pip does that. I know he's always nice. So yeah. So let me I'm going to show you guys our sources FAQ. That's here. Can you see that? Did it work? Yeah. Okay. So our sources FAQ talks about what we call a source here on wiki tree. Basically, it's where did you find the information? Did you get a drawn a hand drawn tree from your great Aunt Martha? Did she give that to you? Put that down. Yes, I have a I have an unsourced family tree from great Aunt Martha. And it says this, and it's totally okay to create a profile from an unsourced tree from from Grandma Martha, great, great Aunt Martha, whatever, because that's where you got the information. Now your job after you enter that is to not only say that's where you got it from. But now you get the opportunity to start working and collaborating with the rest of the community and finding whether or not great Aunt Martha got her dates right. And was that really so was Uncle Roy really her nephew or was it you know, you know, so on and so forth. So yeah, you can enter a profile and say, I have an unsourced family tree. And that's how I know what I entered right here. And and everybody else who's watching this person put this information in just needs to be okay with that, and give them time to continue their research. Because most people don't come here with a fully developed tree and fully sourced profiles. So let's just give them time. Offer to help them. So yeah, so our unsourced profiles, we have them. And it's just the nature of the kind of work that's done here. And it's okay. Please add sources as you go and you find more information. No, Lynette, leave your cast iron skillet in the cabinet. I wasn't reading, reading comments. I was okay. I had it on a question for later when you when you get done. Don't go ahead. I'm done. I'm done pontificating. Ask away. Um, in home quiz asks, what are the top 25 names, family names based on on the landing page? I think it's the top 25 names that have had the most contributions for a period of time, probably for the week. Interesting. Like, yeah, I think I think I can't talk. I think it's updated weekly. Interesting. So yeah, so going back to Lynette's cast iron skillet. If you work in a collaborative environment like this, it takes a lot of patience. And if you're running out of patience, go do something else for a while. I do. I walk away sometimes. That I forgot something. I totally forgot my ranger ship today. Oh, you're a fire. No, it happens. It happens. I've done that myself. I woke up and well, didn't wake up. But you know, like you're like running to the grocery store is like, we were at the pool and I just didn't think about it. It happens. Yeah, our rangers are very good at looking back over the schedule and seeing the when the last person logged in and it always gets covered. So we have we have some awesome people that are rangering. Speaking, speaking of that, all of our functional projects can always use more volunteers. So if any of you who are in our chat right now are interested in any of our functional projects and helping out for really just an hour a week, all of us can use them. I know Pip would welcome some more greeters. He'd be happy to have people volunteer to be greeters. So if anybody has an hour a week to spare, where it's it's not hard work, it's it's kind of fun. And the group that you get to work with is awesome. They're just like the nicest people on wiki tree. So come join them. How is it work? People think that the greeters are robots. I'm like, no, they're really Yeah, that happens. That happens a lot. Yeah. Well, we try to keep things consistent and standard, you know, so that people are getting kind of the same message every, you know, everybody gets the same information. So I can see where they might think that. But I remember when I first came on, I can't remember who greeted me. It was somebody who's been who's still a leader. I think it was Liz Shiflett. I can't remember. But but she posted a note and I thought, Wow, this is so cool. Somebody is actually glad that I'm here. Yeah, it was so cool. I was like, they noticed me. Yeah, they're paying attention. June says she's not ready to be a greeter yet. Are you sure June? Go talk to Pip. He might have a different opinion of that. What's up? I said Stephen got greeted by Pip. Oh, that's neat. The cool thing about being a greeter is that the main skill that you need to have is copy and paste. Because the other project members, if you get questions from a member that you don't know how to answer, you have a whole group of people to back you up in a Google group. So you can just come in there and say, Hey, I didn't know. And they'll find the answer for you. If somebody doesn't know it off the top of their head, they'll find the answer and then you'll know it for next time. Greeting is a lot of fun. It was my first project that I joined, I think. I enjoyed it. Cool people. Mags was my project leader then. Yeah, I've worked with her off and on for many, many years. Here, Leah. She's she's one of the people who thought it was a robot. Don't feel bad, Leah. You're not the only one. Yeah, it's it's cool that we have we still have life people greeting people coming in. We need more. It's been a it's been a summer of people, you know, their computers broke down. We've had a couple of people that got sick and had to leave. But they're, you know, they're just awesome people. They would welcome you with open arms into their project. So they're fun. And you get to hang out with Pep and David Selman. So, you know, why not be a greeter? And Pip really is nice. He's not gonna slap anybody. No. Oh, this is funny. We were joking about that the other day. It's like, we, you know, we couldn't get this person to respond because we'd asked them a question or something. I said, you know what? I think they just let's just live in the next county over. I'll just drive over there. I'm from wiki tree. Yeah, very personalized service. They probably be like, I'm calling the cop. Who are you? I'll show up with my let the sources decide t-shirt on laptop in one hand. Let me show you how to use wiki tree. Right here. Can we sit at your kitchen table? Like a missionary, a wiki tree missionary. Yes, exactly. Well, A01 came to visit me one time. And it was the weirdest thing because we're so used to talking to each other online. And here she was sitting at my kitchen table and we're like, still talking to each other on the computer? Did we do that? Probably at Roots Tech. We were roommates at Roots Tech. And I can't remember if we talked on the computer in the same room or not. Oh, I'm sure we must have. Even if just to be funny, you know, yeah, works. I know. Roots Tech is a lot of fun. I hope that I hope they do have it in person again at some point. But I don't think they will this coming year. Will they? Do they announce it yet? I know that they're doing what they did last year, but I didn't know if there's going to be an in person component. Yeah, less likely now, I would say. Unfortunately. I don't know. I hope that if they do go back to in person, though, that they keep at least some of the offerings online. Like, I mean, they always they always post some videos, right? But right, they post more of the videos because that was really nice. Yeah, yeah, I thought. Yeah, it's a it's a really neat experience. If they do start doing it in in person again, if anybody gets a chance to go, I highly recommend it. It's a lot of fun. It's just fun to meet these trees. Sorry. Oh, I just say it's fun to meet people that you talk to all the time face to face. Yeah. Yeah. Come to the wiki tree booth. There'll be a lot of familiar faces. Yeah. Yeah. And we're all usually kind of tired and punchy. Yeah. But it's fun. You can't miss us. We're in bright orange all of us. Yep. Pretty easy to find and we're we might be one of the louder booths. I don't know. Are we? Probably. We have fun at our booth. We don't. We do. We play music. Sarah sang the last time we were there. She did. She got on her mic and sang at people going past. Yep. Yeah. And let's see what else. Oh, we had some presentations going on. Manx did a good one. I ended up doing one. That's not my favorite thing to do. Presentations. We had Roberta Estes, right? Yes, good a good one. I was trying to think of who else I really liked. We do not have blueberry pie at the booth. No, we might have to change that. Yes, everyone so does. Yeah. And coffee. There's like lots of cups of coffee sitting around. We have to label them. Yeah. And then our booth was next to the candy pecan place. So it just made us continually hungry. They're and they have vanilla. So you're smelling roasted pecans with like a cinnamon sugar vanilla scent. It was torture. Yeah, you just wanted to eat them constantly because they were making them constantly. I finally broke down and went and got some. And then I think I can't remember why this happened, but a luscious daughter went and got me a big thing of popcorn. She's my best friend now. I love her. She's fun. She was trying to teach us all how to speak Slovenian. I could not get a turtle in Slovenian. Do you? Can you say it? I don't remember how to pronounce it really but I am terrible. Oh, Steven's got a good idea. Make fresh bread to draw them in. I don't think they'll let us wait. No, I think that they was wrong. They would they would charge us a lot of money to have an oven. I was just thinking they'd frown on that. They charged a lot of money for a trash can. So just thinking how much it would be for an oven. It's true. It's true. It's not cheap to go to a conference. Oh, Benjamin's here. Hi, Benjamin. I'm sorry. You might be interested in them. What is it? It's the profile improvement projects voyage. Is that what? Oh, Voyager. Yeah. Yeah, whatever they call that. Look up that. I don't know where the direct if I can bring it up. Yeah, she says she wants one on one help to tell me tweak my profiles. Here's the project page. Let me share. Can you see it? No, it's not added. Now we can. There we go. Here's profile improvement. Just come to their project page. Debbie, Kylie, as me, they can all help you or you can go to their post. Oh, there we go. Complete the profile improvement project voyage. It was on that other page. Yes, yes, right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. So I highly recommend that it will teach you everything you need to know about adding what what should you know, making a perfect profile. Perfect. Perfect. We always have room for improvement, don't we? Oh, and what's just doing the profile improvement project right now? Cool. Yeah, I go back to profiles I wrote in 2017 or 18. And I'm like, I have a different style now. I have to go back and re format. Yes. Yes, I'm I was I'm sure everybody was biting their tongue because I was using a way of sourcing profiles that is frowned upon now. Oh, I was using span tags. Oh, yeah. And we prefer not to do that now because it is a little it's it works great. But it's confusing for especially for people who aren't comfortable with adding like inline sources and stuff. It's it's just gets confusing. So don't do that. If you see any of my profiles and you see that span tags on them, just ignore them. I'm going to fix them. I'm going to write a comment. Julie, you better fix this now. It's okay. You can you can do that if you'd like. Oh, Lynette is very thankful to Julie. Oh, before maybe showing the profile improvement. Oh, good. Yay. That's what we're here for. I love our little every other Friday chats here where we get to just share fun things. Oh, span tag. Oh, thank you for using them or for removing them. Because now when I find the profiles I made with those in there, I take them out. So I hope that's what she's thinking before I can't put them back in. Some day I bet I don't know it's we always talk about getting like a or implementing somehow a WYSIWYG type editor, but that's such a huge undertaking. I don't even know where to start with that. So that's like on the pipe dream list. Is there a project for help finding sources? Well, Anne, I think I don't. Does the PIP project cover that the profile improvement project? Does the voyage cover sources? I know that they talk about sources and like yeah, sources and I don't know that they talk about where you can always ask in G2G like can I can I get some help finding sources for this person? And I see that you're in Texas, Anne. So I'm going to guess that you're in Texas based on your icon. If you go to the Texas project, we have that too. Let me bring that up. If I can type. A lot of times are project pages. Let me share that again. Here's the Texas project project colon Texas. A lot of our project pages have hints on where you can find our sources. Thank you. Or repositories. Oh, none of her ancestors are from Texas. Oh, well, that's just an example. We have a project for every state. So if you go to, you know, just use the same. I'll go back over there. Like I can go to Project Illinois. If I could type Illinois, because that's where I am. There's the Illinois project. You can do that for any state. You can do that for pretty much any country. We don't I mean, we have most countries covered right now. Um, resources have a whole list of resources for Illinois research. You would be just so surprised to see what you can find on these project pages. I just highly recommend. And you can also go to the find menu in the upper right corner and click on find and then projects to look for a, you know, like a geographic location. And they will have oftentimes will have resources listed for research. The England project has something called an orphan trail, where they will take members through orphaned profiles and show them how to find sources for them. But that's very geared towards England or English profiles. I think the Scotland project is has a tartan trail. There's somebody there's another project that started a trail to you guys remind me I it's I'm I can't think of it off the top of my head. There's yeah, Scotland's and then I can't think of it either. I know that I've read about it somewhere. And then I wonder, hang on a second. Pip says Canada. Oh, yeah, I can't remember what they called theirs. Let's see, hang on a second here. And also, if you go to and if you got the tags for or the links for the tutorial pages, when you from your greeter, you should have gotten a link to go back here to this page, the new member how to category and it's got a number of tutorials on it. When you go in here and click on the first one, how to start climbing our tree. It first talks about how to create profiles and then how to add a source citation. And it gives you some ideas on places to look at. Root search is a tool that we use on wiki tree. That will allow you to search. Let me find a profile here. Yeah, somebody somebody have mentioned root search. Yeah, let me go to my watch list and I'll find a profile to look at and I'll show you what it looks like. It's it is very cool. Don't look at how many profiles I'm trying to get rid of them. I swear by Benjamin. By Benjamin. On obisigler. So any profile, you can if it's, you can either go to the profile menu here and find the research link. Or you can go down to the right hand side here and click on root search. And it will fill in that person's information for you here. I usually take out the country here just because it's gonna I'm going to go to family search from here. You can modify your list down here for what sites you want to use. I went into the I'll go back here I go I went into the more sites option. And there's a whole list of research sites that you can use you some of course you need to have a wiki tree on there if you want to. I think I think wiki tree. Yeah, it is. So you could yeah, you could search wiki tree for information because that would help you find duplicates. But there are of course some of these you need to have a subscription to some of them you don't. So my favorites, I always start by going to family search. And yes, I go to find a grave because there are hints there that can come in handy. So as you can see, it popped me into find a grave and it filled in this information. Usually you need to go in here and expand the date. Let's see what it would all and OB is not out there on find a grave. And then no, I wasn't signed in. Family search, it'll fill in whatever information was on the profile. And you can go through these and see if they apply. OB had, yeah, here's OB, the father of the bride. So yeah, that's a cool way to research. I hope that answered your question. I hope that helped anyway. Who asked that? That was Anne. Did we lose her? No, no, Anne followed up and said what's wrong with find a grave? Oh, well, it's just that it's just like any site where it's a user created, you know, memorials or profiles. Some people add sources and some people don't. So whatever information you get from there, you're going to want to verify with additional sources because a lot of times you'll find obituaries on there. And as we all know, obituaries aren't always right. Yeah. And so if you get a find a grave profile without a picture of the headstone or something, then people could be putting in whatever, you know, so you have to be careful. I've seen memorials for people who haven't died yet. Yeah. Probably shouldn't be doing those. But I've also, go ahead. No, I was just going to say use caution. Yeah. To try to find other sources. Yeah, it's just a good way to look for hints. And even the headstones don't always have the right information. Yep. Okay. She said that it did help. Oh, good. Yay. That's why we're here. Let's see. Loretta says correcting their date. They are the most. Well, and that's good and bad because you can send the memorial manager a request to change the information because you found something. I always send them a link to the source that I found to prove that I actually did find it. But it's, sometimes they just don't, they take your work for it. Yeah. So, I mean, it's good that they update stuff, but I usually try to provide them what I found and why I think what they have needs to be updated. So, oh yeah, Kathy has a good point. Sometimes the headstone will have the deceased spouse and that's usually helpful. So, but they're, you know, just like with anything, you have to be careful what you find out there. It's human beings putting information in. So, we all make mistakes. I just need to have a little grace about that. Oh, we're going to win an argument with Alessia's bots. It's hard to win arguments with Alessia in general. He always has the, he always has the answer. So, that's fine. I don't mind because he's usually right. So, I just depend on him to give me the right info. Oh, I do know sometimes it's frustrating because the memorial on Find a Grape will have a different date and then they get flagged as a suggestion and I'm like, nobody knows the real date. So, I'm not going to fix this. Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, sometimes. And you know if you find stuff like that, put in a research note that says, Find a Grape says this. This document says that. We don't know for sure which one's right. So, you know, let's keep looking. That's, you know, that's one of the great things about Wikitra. I know that the, the interface can be a little hard to learn, you know, because you've got your free text area and it, you know, it's a little intimidating to put in line citations and learn the formatting code and all that. But it gives us so much freedom to put information in there and I don't, I'm not sure I've ever seen that anywhere else. I love research notes. Me too. I love, love them. Yeah. I think I chose Wikitree because I really like the free form text. Yeah, I like that you can tell a person's whole story there. I just, I love that so much. And I like, I like you can have the bio up here but then also underneath it research notes right like on the same page. So, people can be, can see what you have done as far as research and trying to clear up things. I agree, I agree. And it's just cool to be able to talk to each other that way to share your information that way. It's what makes us so collaborative is that we can share information back and forth so easily. But like I said, our new members need, we need to give them time and hold their hands sometimes. Hello, Mr. Katie. Just give them time to get acclimated and give them a helping hand. Don't do it for them. You know what I mean? You can leave them a note and say, here's how you can find that but don't, you know, teach a man to fish. I know it's hard, it's hard to not, you just want to step in and fix it and take over. Yeah and it's okay to do, you know, like ask them, can I show you an example of how to do that or another way to do that that's a little easier to read or do you mind if I show you how to put a source in here in line? You know, it's just have a conversation. I have, I still have people, I mean I've been on Wiki Tree since 2000, something, a long time ago. It's been close to 10 years now and I still talk to people that I met back in the day when I was still learning my way around and, you know, I still have buddies that I hang out with. Sure, let's see. Wait, what is Stephen saying? One of my relatives grave has newspaper articles of the person is not them so has my eyes open to finding the correct info. Cool. I don't know about the rest of you but I get a little obsessed with when I find a mistake somewhere else. I find myself submitting corrections to find a grave and now on Family Search you can sometimes edit the transcription of the record. I do that like it's kind of fun to be, to know that you're providing quality information. All right, well I've babbled on for, oh my gosh, almost an hour. Yeah, my hair is dried. I'm so sorry. Well I'm glad everybody stopped by. Oh, you're welcome Janine. I did that ages ago. I probably need to redo it because I'm not sure that it's a hundred percent up to date now. We've had some interface updates since then I think. But yeah, I just kind of threw that together. It's a little haphazard but I'm glad it helped. I think we might be able to put a better version of how to do things out there in the future. I hope so. It's something we'd like to do. Videos. It takes time. Yeah. The problem with videos, I love them because they, you know, to show somebody how to do something is always, it always works better than, you know, telling them how to do it through a health page. It's hard to do that on a wiki tree. It is. Yeah. But the problem with videos is that, you know, something changes. You have to redo the whole video for the most part. Yeah. So it makes kind of a big maintenance project but that doesn't mean we don't want to use them. We do. We think they're a really great teaching tool. So we'll find ways to make it work better. Julie, we know it's better than Netflix. That's hilarious, Pip. That is such a high compliment, Pip. That's really funny. Thank you. I'm buying it but thank you. And if, oh, okay. It's so funny. Well, I will let you all go. Come over to Discord and hop into the Friday date night channel. Say hello. If you don't know how to get to Discord, go to the wiki tree help page for Discord. It's help colon discord. So come on over. It's a lot of fun people. We've not a ton of people are there on Fridays but everybody pops in and talks about what they're doing or, you know, what they're eating. Yeah. So come on over and we'll let you go. I can't believe we did a whole hour here. Thank you, Katie, for helping. I think my longest livestream. I know. I know. I appreciate it. Then I'm not just babbling on it myself. I know. It's awkward. It is awkward. All right, you guys. We will see you in two weeks for Friday date night. Thanks for coming by and we'll talk to you later. Bye.