 Next time you're here with me, you should be thinking about us, all right? We're here with the National Youth Council, talking emancipation, not the long, heavy drawn out emancipation, we want you to understand what it means to you, young people, what it meant to the older community, and what it could mean to the future generation. So now we're on technology, a while ago we talked about pop culture and they tie into each other because young people are based on a phone, you on your device every day, social media is everywhere and especially as the celebrations happened, I must say if we're talking honestly and plainly all before this year, this year I think was the grandest display of emancipation, celebrations that we've seen but years before I clicked the TV, I see something on a sitting channel, I say and then I switch, you understand? Because that's nothing to do with me, I say I say my great-great-great-great-great grand go through the slavery, I have to go through it again this year. And that's why you should get into when it comes to pop culture, I mean it's how you package something. Exactly. If we already realizing that young people are just into pop culture, we all over social media, TikTok and all of that, just utilize those platforms. That's why I was saying why we compromising, why it have to be meeting the middle, don't meet in the middle. You know that young people already on social media, why does it have to be all will do some on social media. That's where we are, we're not about to... I would say that was the issue before. Yeah. So a lot of information not being passed down because people felt like they have to stick to the traditional way. I was taught it, so I'll teach it to you in that manner. However, we were not really utilizing what the young people were into. Thank you. So if we're realizing people are into social media, let's get them there. I could draw an example. Jason Joseph Bachelors. He does a lot of social media work in his teachings of the Creole language. That is amazing. Let us support something like that even more and make it even fresher to get to the Gen Zs. Why isn't there a younger face doing that? Well, there is a younger face. There's two things, a pair of sisters. Okay, so I forgot the name, but they're from Mekwudabini. They're actually doing a project together with Tikwizians of the community. There we go. One of the best things for me and Joshua, you mentioned the Creole language earlier. Is that Kweol dictionary? Like to me, that's what we've been needing for a long time. How many young people know that? No, people not. I mean, it's nice if you're on the traditional field, you go to the library or wherever you get it. Who goes to the library? Okay, I'm not going to lie. If you go to one, it's not the library. I don't think that's the part we're going to talk about. But I have the idea of having to sell emancipation, having to market it to people, young people. I think we need to get past that as well. We are emancipated and we're also living through that. Let's use these opportunities just to push more development in our own industries. Let's let that be a flag mark or rather the headline of what we're doing. Rather than to keep it about our remembrance, let's bask in what we can do and what we are doing. Let's push the boundaries on the sake of emancipation rather than saying, come with us. Let's remember Creole. Let's remember even if you're doing that and you relate that, you relate the parts that can strengthen the people now. I think that's what people embrace the most. So let us give it a message that adds fire to us. That's how young people want to say like, yeah, we emancipated. In truth, we don't really need to bask in what we already have as much as what we can do with this so-called freedom. Let's take up the space and let's do more in the space. Now, I like that you brought that up because that's a problem that I kind of have. We kind of mistake our history, our culture as black people as being slavery. Where, I mean, we need to raise a consciousness of it because especially Senusha as a young society, we need to understand where we just recently came from. But at the same time, we need to understand that we could create culture because it's an ever-evolving thing. It's not just stagnant in the stage of you had chains and shackles and you would be turned and this, that, and the other. So we could market it and actually that's the part of pop culture, we join people in the content creators. So it's how culture creates. I was thinking that too because if you look at, I know, well, so far, you only hit on the point that it has not been brought to technology. Our social media will enough. But if you look at what we actually do, a lot of the trending TikToks are those that give you the history lessons. You're like, for true, that happened because you never knew that was going on. Like, did you know all of these different TikToks? You understand? Yes. Now, the other thing to, you can't forget what's going on in the community. Yeah, but realistically, yeah. Yeah, just not, it's in the industry. All right, in light of emancipation, let's create a project, let's fund a project as a government. Let's put some money aside and let's take a venture on behalf of emancipation. Why not do that instead? Because then we add into our infrastructure. We're showing young people, there's a possibility. Let's take you into a field. Let's do it for fun on behalf of emancipation. Not for fun, not for me. Are you saying it's not sense, like, but you... A field, field? You allowing someone or somebody who is prepared to explore a project, you basically can launch a project or you can do something in light of emancipation. That could be just on the basis that now we overturn it into the technological sphere. Let's take up some presence. Let's do something in light of that. I'm just saying that let it be somewhat of an inspiration and impetus to do something. Yeah, I concur with what Edison says, but the fact that you say government, we know nothing in Saint Lucia ever happens on time, nothing in Saint Lucia ever produces on time. I would never really rely on the government to really have... Absolutely. And we barely have no private sector. You have to rely on yourself, man. All right, even if you're an entrepreneur, it doesn't matter. There's an infrastructure already in place. There are loans being taken every month to pay every government worker salary. I'm just saying the basic infrastructure is your governmental structure. You have private sector, but does the private sector care enough to check on your own cultural... I'm not just a... But we barely even have a private sector to do anything by tourism. But I'm just saying, we'll get there, we'll get there, we'll get there. I feel like government is being... We'll get to government. Not even that, but it goes to social media. It goes to social media. All right. No, but I'm saying that it relates to social media. In terms of the check, in terms of the technology and doing things that are trending, one example I can give you also, every Good Friday, I watch The Passion of Christ, all right? And every time I see Jesus kneel on the cross, I just say, I just promise Jesus I'll never see Him again. Right? Because I watch it and I feel it. You know what I'm saying? I just cry for Jesus. I'm not just doing that. You know what I'm saying? I eat it, so I'm making the promise one time. But you all know what will happen the next day. You know what I'm saying? A little sin, not a big sin. But it's still a sin. It's still a sin. No sin only to sin. But yeah, you've got to hear that. So after... So that's just a really good example. If you focus on something only happening one day, you make a decision about it. For one day, it dies out and then you go back to your regular habits. My thing with Emancipation Celebration is why only keep it to a small period? Because yeah, we teach you about things. We teach you about that. When is the only time you hear about these things? When is the time you hear about liberating stories? I feel like this is sort of a calendar of events. Exactly. And I also have this calendar of events. Okay, it's not just August 1st and then we come. Yes. And then we're back to the same thing. But that goes also with the continuation of government. We have a YouTube page, we have a social media presence, but it's not really, you know, we don't have any traction. You understand? There's always going to be money allocated to these things. It's always, always, every year there will be some sort of allocation towards national celebration. So here it is, here it is. Because I want you to tighten to what you're about to say. Yeah. Because you're talking about governmental support and tapping into that for sure. Do you think everybody gets to benefit from these opportunities? Or do you see some kind of privilege in the way that people, certain people get to access these opportunities? Okay. Because it's good to suggest it, but who benefits from it? It's who you know. Exactly. If the goal is an overall community benefit. And like I said, there's always going to be resources, whatever you want to call it. Resources allocated to celebration. We're celebrating things, yeah, yeah. Just to remember it in all honesty, but every year is a celebration. However, just to pull into something that could be action-oriented, that maybe a community could benefit from. Maybe you could look at ways to time more and more people as you increase the stakes. You increase the benefit, the effort is increased. And overall you create something that could lead towards whether it's a technological step you're trying to make that you see there's a space for. But there's always something to be done in the same industries we're discussing. However, I don't think that all the effort should really be put on the straight up remembrance. Let's go back into it. Let's open up this box. However, all of the advancements are beautiful. I think Creole should be taught just the same. I thought one wasn't taught by my mother. That's right. Freedom turned the science in. That's enough of that. They're restricting me. Restricting me, you understand? That's right. Let me go. Let my people go. But you get it out to the community. You inflate these things. You do these things as we go along. But for the celebrations, let's make it exciting. Because there's a reason why young people are not really looking forward. It's like what's really going to happen at that point? Like how are they going to tie in? How are they going to become and relate and step into a space? Now when you want to create experiences of grandeur that can bring that stuff about, you're going to want to stimulate a benefit. And that's what I'm saying. Let's launch these projects. Let's create a cultural amusement park. Let's do something like that. Let's do something cool. Because at the end of the day, nobody cares for the same old, same old. As much as we do appreciate the billboards, even though we cannot have bronze. But, but people are saying we cannot have bronze. A celebration or whatever. I say it's good. But I just got, I'm not saying whatever we do. Not the power. At least an equal effort into creating a space that's cool, that people can now step into and that can be a platform. We can open up something. That's awesome. I mean, I love all of that. But when we always try to get people to fall back on government, government, government. We've seen, because, you know, the topic is we're on social media and, you know, pop culture and all those things. Nobody's, none of these influencers are really going to the government and say, hey, help me out with this. I'm trying to make a little TikTok. These people are taking their own, they are taking it up for themselves to say, okay, this is what I'm passionate about. I'm heading on social media and I'm doing this because I want to educate the masses. I want to create a fun experience virtually. I want to do this. I want to do that. I feel like we can also look at some things as simple as that as highly impactful. You know, they can, they can pretty much achieve the same thing. I mean, time after time we see that many young people come up with proposals and so on. We send it out. I mean, let's really not always go around the conversation of waiting for the government, the government. What are you doing as a young person to celebrate emancipation? What are you doing to, to teach? You know, what are you doing to ensure that we're moving forward? The same things that you were not taught that you maybe had to teach yourself. What are you doing to pass that information down? Okay. You know, if we keep, I agree. I think that's, I think that's stimulating a lot of option level because now you're calling on people who feel like they're liberated or they're in those spaces to do more, to share more, which is still good. It's still good. As opposed to just saying, let's talk about Cezanne Descartes. Let's talk about, as much as we love that, but I don't really want to sit down and, and recollect with you as much as I might want to share and use that as a conduit to do more. And I think that's what we've been talking about. I mean, it's in the packaging of the, you know, this one wants to do much more. Definitely the packaging. I feel like it's the first year that we've gone from talking to doing. That we've had from one day to an entire calendar of events. That this, we're actually here sitting here, having this discussion where it's already hard enough to get young people interested in a discussion like this. So this is a major strive forward, though it is a little step. It is something that has never been tried before. I also think that right now, like you're saying, Edison, emancipation needs to be on us on young people. It cannot just be because you see how things have changed over the years. So before it would usually, it was probably your great grandmother sitting outside another moonlight, because you didn't have lights, you know? Sitting under the moonlight, giving you a story about the Gages and the larger bless or what their great-grands had to go through. And they were giving you the story in that way. Nobody's sitting outside right now to listen to these stories. No, we have stories. However, you know it. But we could always bring these stories to the technology. Exactly. So bring it there. In our own creative way. I don't know. Like this one. Who? That's true. Documentaries. Remember which in the generation watches documentaries? A lot of people. Again, it's not what you do, but how you do it. When I say documentary, I'm not talking about this thing. I mean, no. Yeah, and make it source and make it controversial. Because okay, people spend hours watching serial killer documentaries. Yeah, just things interesting. I'm sure you're judging. Are you judging? I'm not judging. You might say that's why I'm saying it. Are you? Just back on topic. I mean, okay. We're trying to shave for fun. My friend Francis will be tuning into pre-skillage live of the Nabingi, of celebrations, 21 days of Nabingi. That was pre-skillage, right? And to go away? Yeah, but basically it's just an entrepreneur. It's an entrepreneur in the space who's decided this on their cultural upbringing that they're going to pursue. But is he waiting for government? No, he's not. He's not. He dropped the bridge down. He has products. They're going to go on. He is in collaboration with the government on certain degrees, but there you have a cultural eminence. We have 21 days that wasn't last year. Yeah. What has happened in this year? So we see how it happens and we see it in real time. When we come back, I want us to talk colorism. I want to talk privilege, you know? Because these are very important topics and things we all know about. And that's the conversations you have with your friends in private and you'll never want to say it on the platforms, but you'll know it's where MemeXa is staying in. MemeXa was brought to you by the St. Louisian National Youth Council in collaboration with the Cultural Development Foundation. Division creative.