 Okay. All right. Oh, we all made it. I feel like we just went to outer space or something like we've just been beamed up. I wondered if you've lost your power. No, it was, no, it was, yeah, it was, it was a little bit of confusion about where the meeting room was, but we're, we're all there now. So now we're all here. There's Elizabeth and We're missing Tom. Oh yeah. Did I just hear Tom? I heard Tom. And Joe, we're missing Joe. No, I'm here. Okay. There you are. But no Tom. Somehow I hit the wrong thing and my video is not doing, but I don't think you need the video. I looked the same. As long as we hear you. I thought that you were, um, I thought your mom will show up. Okay. I will, um, call this special meeting of the board of directors of three television, Santa Cruz County, August 17, 2025. I'm meeting to order with our secretary. He's called. Or note the role. Call it. Yeah. Your microphone's off Larry. You're muted. Sorry about that. I got it now. Technology is not my thing. Uh, chair. Here. Director hall. Here. Director Rand. Nope. Here. Twice if you're here. Yep. Director. Here. Director. Here. Director Shaw. Here. Director. Here. Director Mannheim. I think. Okay. All right. Well, we have a quorum. I note. Thank you very much. Uh, everyone for attending today. Um, I don't see any members of the public, but I'll just say, uh, call item number two, oral communications. Anybody want to say anything to the board? All right, hearing none, we move on to item three, uh, consideration of late additions, the agenda additions, deletions. Um, I had, uh, I wondered if we should, I mean, that could send me a report from last month when we canceled the meeting, but, um, I don't know if everybody's okay with just moving on to the rest of the agenda. Does anybody have anything they wanted to add? Agenda. Why don't you just email the report on to us? Yeah. Can I do that? Okay. Thanks. It's from last month, but. Yeah. I will forward that. All right. So let's move to our regular agenda. Item number four, the appropriation of funds for lease of captioning equipment. I just pulled that text out of my mind and hopefully that is legal. Um, and, uh, would you like to present a second to the board on that? Of course. Um, we have been working with the city to do, to do captioning for the city council meetings for a while. And, um, I talked to them last year and then we had to wait for this year's budget to go through and our, um, they eliminated many things, but we were left in the end. So we will be, we have been awarded the contract to caption the city's, um, government meetings. So, uh, because the city has to be on its own channel, the city and, uh, county meet at the same time their board meetings overlap. They don't meet at the same time, but their meetings overlap. So we have to be on a separate channel. So we need a separate captioner for that. So we, um, we need to buy a captioner. And, uh, this would be our second captioner, but, um, we won't have to buy any more no matter who else wants to be captioned. We've got everybody covered with two captioning machines. And, uh, last time I talked to you about a, uh, a $15,000 machine. And, um, in the end, we did not buy that machine because the county required a special older, uh, model that had, that could, could do high definition and standard definition at the same time to accommodate their closed circuit captioning within the county building. So we actually didn't purchase the one that you okayed. We purchased a lesser, a less expensive one, um, and an older version, but it does what the county needs. This time we do want to buy the current state of the art version. And, um, it will do a couple of things for us. One, it does better captions. It also does punctuation ordinarily. It's just like one big run on sentence. And we like that the punctuation really makes it easier to read. And, um, the, but the most important thing it does is, um, because the encoder is built in, uh, the last time we talked about this, we had our own encoder. So it, we would have, um, if we bought the new machine, we wouldn't have been using that encoder. And there was some discussion about we already had that piece. So why buy it this time? We don't have an extra encoder. So we're buying the machine with the encoder included. And that allows us to do a really important thing. We're able to go into the machine remotely and troubleshoot and fix and configure. Now, when we do that, uh, Victor has to go to the county building. And in order to be in the special room where the gear is, he has to get an escort. And once he's in the room, he can't make a phone call because it's like a Faraday cage in there. And he can't see our channel. So he has to leave the building, come back to our place and look on the screen and see what's going on. And, um, with this, he'll be able to address it from our office. He can just remote in. And the, the tech support people that we pay to maintain this machine can also remote in and fix anything that's misconfigured. Or if the power goes out and has to be readjusted in some way, they can do it. So it saves the county's time right now because so many people are either furloughed or working from home. Victor has had to have people called in from home to take him into the basement so he can work on this gear. So I'm sure the county would appreciate the upgrade as well. So what I want to do is we're supposed to be in our strategic plan, we say that we are wanting to be the state of the art and technology and the leader in technology. So I think we need to provide our staff and our customers and our viewers the state of the art in technology as well. And I think we'll all like the quality better and it'll make Victor's life easier in the life of those people working at the county as well. So that's, I need your permission to do this because it's above the level that I can approve. But it is, it is a good idea will will result in a lot of profit for us from this machine. I have a quick question. Yes, please go ahead. Since you can't see me I can't raise my hand but when when is the city going to start doing it I'm just kind of curious. They're ready to do it now as soon as we get this thing purchased and installed they're ready to go. Have the budget for budget approved. Yeah, the budget's approved. Got a nice giant PO. Yes, Mr. Where is the equipment going to physically be that was my question you stole my. Is it going to be at the city council chambers or will it be in the data center. He's asked his question. Yes. I think it's in the county building because that's where the signal goes out. So that and then because it's there other, other video signals will be able to be routed to it. Yeah, and if we did anybody else's meetings, we could do it from there. So it'll be in the county building with the other one. I have a look. Does the city have their own in-house video streaming solution or do they just use community televisions? They don't do an in-house thing. They don't have granicus. Well, they may. I think they still use sire. They use something, but they don't use sire. So I have its own video streaming. I don't know if it still does, but I think that's the tool they were back. The last time I looked, that's what they're. But they aren't like the county that requiring captions to be put on there. No, they're, no, they're okay with the way that we have planned to set it up. Thank goodness. They'll get the better. It'll be easier. Yes. Easier for everyone. So if we were to send a signal from the studio. To the county, which, you know, over our radio. Would we be able to switch this on for something we broadcast live from our studio? Yes, I think so. Yeah. Could we caption other things? Yeah, we could. Because it's with the election coming up, it's conceivable. We could do something live. Assuming we could open up. As long as it's not at the same time. I mean, either way, we can do it on one or the other. Cause they, I mean, we've got two captioning machines now. So we can. If there's a city council and a board of supervisors meeting going on at the same time. Then we wouldn't be able to, but as long as there's not, and we can always caption, we can caption after the fact too. Like there's a bunch of. I mean, you know, you know, you know, you know, the county's supervisor meetings that happened that while we were trying to install the captioning equipment, and so a couple of them didn't get captioned live, but we will caption them in the later. So we can always capture something after the fact, even if we can't do it live. The question I have. Following up keys question. Metrea. If we do it in our own studio, do we have a captioning machine on the screen? Do we have a captioning machine on the screen? Yeah. Yeah. Everybody. No, it's just, we just automatic. Nick, we just feed it to the captioner. Yeah. Okay. We just schedule it. We tell the caption or what shows to do and which not to do. I mean, we don't. We just, we schedule it to be captioned and then it comes on automatically and does it. So it's that accurate that you don't need somebody there monitoring it. Oh no, no. So we have a limit of 30 hours a month. How much. How much do the. It's, it's less than 30 hours. I added it up. We could actually probably, it's probably. It would be very close, but we could do both, both the city council and the board of supervisors in a 30 hour, but we get two now. We get 30 hours for the, for the. I mean, I'm, I'm hearing Keith ask if then we can have other programs. Oh yeah. Well. The city council. Well, they have done like up to 20 hours in a month. But there's, I mean, we would just keep track of it. They had a meeting was 12 hours. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Everybody raise your hands, please. Yeah. So I wasn't done yet. So basically. If other programs get captioning. Then we will charge them, right? Is that what we do then? We charge. Yeah. Yeah. If they wanted to, if other, other organizations wanted to caption, yeah, we would charge them. I think. I think vice chair was asking about. We're asking about volunteer programs or. Any, any problem. I mean, it could also be professional programs. You have people who rent the studio and want to have a cap search. You know. Yeah. Yeah. We would, if we were to go over our 30 hours, we would charge for the captioning and we build that cost in. Yeah. It would be. Of course. It could be. I think you should charge them anytime. Yeah. Whether they go, you know, stay under 30 hours or not. Yeah, we would, we would charge anybody else. And if we went over the 30 hours, we would have built that key in. So it would be okay. I'm seeing Keith racist and very racist hands, but I think I saw Keith's hand first. So go ahead. I just wanted to comment that when we did the strategic plan, we were looking at potential election related stuff. We didn't know there was going to be a pandemic. And, you know, in the past, we had an election night program that was live. We've looked, we were going to have potentially. Canada statements. I was just thinking if we had something live election related, if we didn't have pandemic restrictions, then we might want to use it because because it's a nice thing to have to have it. Yeah. If we, I think we would caption it because if we can, I would like to, I, I wanted to do last year, but I think it's too close to the wire. We didn't have the time. And I, I believe we can fit that in inside our 30 hours. And I think that's a good public service. So I'll welcome director man. Thank you for joining us. Sorry, I'm late folks. No worries. Better late than never. And, and secretary Laurent, you had a question. Yeah, I just was looking, it looks like, I mean, we're getting charged the same, basically the same amount for the, the first 30 hours as we are for additional hours. So that would just be built in to, to whatever. Yeah. Lost it is. So it's $30 an hour for that first 995 33. So, 33. Yeah. So it's, it's, it's, they don't, they don't, they don't gouge you for going over that number. It's kind of a straight number. We're paying, we're paying that whether we use it or not. Right. Right. So that's why they gave you the $2 an hour break. Right. No, but they don't, they don't like double the price. So it's, you know, whatever the cost structure is can go across the board. Sure. And they don't, to my knowledge, they don't actually audit it. That's what they've told us based on an honor system, honor system. All right. Any further questions, comments? I guess I was just, you know, because I actually am familiar with the equipment there somewhat. I'm pretty sure the current captioning, I mean, it's, it's, it's hardwired into channel 26. So there's no, there used to be a matrix switcher in there that allowed us to, or allowed staff to route video between different places. I don't think, I think that got pulled out or it's not in use anymore. So I'm pretty sure the current captioner is kind of, it's hardwired into channel 26. So I don't know if with this other captioner, I mean, if it'll be hardwired into channel 25. I mean, it'll have to be on caption other things. I mean, it'll have to be on 25 or 26 unless we add some sort of a matrix switcher to be able to reroute things dynamically. Yes. If we want to do it live, but we can do anything whenever we want. We could do things at midnight and stuff and, and caption them for rebike house or caption. If we wanted to, like the candidate statements aren't live, we edit them all together. So then we could caption that sometime on either, but we don't have to put it on the channel. We can just put it through the machine. Good to know any other further questions or comments from board members. Seeing none, I will entertain a motion. Somebody like to move approval of this item. We approve the item as on the agenda. We have a second. Second. All right. So we have a motion by director. We have a second by, uh, was it vice chair Rand or director of Driscoll? Yeah. I think I heard vice chair Rand. I saw director of Driscoll's hand. So I guess secretary Laurent. Uh, what do we say? I have a second by, uh, vice chair Rand. Okay. Fantastic. All right. Would you please call the roll for the vote? Yes. Uh, director gudger. Yes. Director Shaw. Yes. Director Launay. Yes. Director. Yes. Director. Yes. Director. Yes. Yes. Director manheim. Yep. Vice chair, uh, Rand. Yay. Director hall. Yes. Chair. Yes. All right. Thank you very much. The passes unanimously. So those, uh, Um, please has been authorized by the board. Um, and, um, As a point of order. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, um, Becca's report that she sent to me to the board. Do I need to post that publicly? Is it all right to just send it out to the board members? Or. Where's, uh, Secretary Laurent, you know, You can send it out. You just thought there's no. Communication on it after the fact. Right. Okay. So I'll just forward that email on that to everybody. All right. If there's no other items on the agenda. So I'll entertain a motion for adjournment. Uh, So. Thank you. Thank you. No, vice chair Rand is trying to get your attention. Oh, yes. I did I make a motion to adjourn. All right. Motion. You'd like to second that director. What the heck. Okay. We have a motion and second for adjournment, uh, all those, Uh, do we have to do a roll call? Okay. Bye. Uh, Claim. All good to see you all. Okay. Okay. All right, thank you all. Bye. Bye. Thank you all.