 Esta semana en News 24, Israel bajo ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. ¡Bienvenidos! ¡Bienvenido a este programa especial de I-24 News! Soy Kaleb Bindavi, del 86. La visión de la guerra contra Hamas. Justo un par de héroes desde la pasada. Dos guardias de seguridad en el entorno de la zona industrial de Mishorad, o el área de shopping, en el Bank West, que está fuera de Jerusalem, en Malleo de Mim, o el Stab, una de las imágenes moderadas, por un terror palestiniano que fue atendido a la escena. También tenemos una infiltración de la zona suave en el norte de Israel. Aparentemente, por las aviones de UAV, no sabemos de la zona mostrada seriana, o de la territoria lebanía, pero vamos a ir al norte para más de una noticia sobre esas historias. Estamos con nosotros en el estudio, la idea reservada de Colonel Grishe Yakubovic. Él es el líder del departamento civil de Kogat y un experto en las relaciones palestinianas de Israel. Y estamos asociados por el embajador, el director general de la Administración de Israel, el embajador de Israel en el norte de África, entre otros titulos diplomáticos. Y hablando de la diplomacia, algunas de las headlines diplomáticas que viene ahora de la media israelí, hay reportes de un mes pasado que Tony Blair, el presidente principal de Inglaterra, estaba buscando servir como un tipo, creo, mediado entre Israel y los países árabes que pudieron administrar Gaza. Hay reportes de un canal 12 News en Israel y otros que Tony Blair ha tenido discursos secretos con el presidente Netanyahu y el presidente Benny Abans, en dos trabajos. El reporte de un canal 12 ha dicho que es para instalar, para ayudar, con relaciones y traer a modernos países árabes, presumably, países como el UAE, quizás Egypta y Saudi Arabia, para ayudar a administrar el Gaza Strip y también, para asistir a la evacuación voluntaria o la relocación de residentes palestinianos de Gaza que quieren hacer eso. Una idea que ha sido tirada por algunos de los miembros de el gobierno israelí. Quiero decir, hay un reporte de Barak Ravid de Axios, que tiene una respuesta de Tony Blair, un esposo de la persona de Tony Blair esta noche. Repito que el reporte de Mr. Blair está tratando de hacer con las evacuaciones voluntarias de Gaza, es simplemente no es cierto. No ha habido ninguna discusión sobre lo que considera. Así que tenemos eso, pero no hay un denial de la historia que Tony Blair ha hablado con el presidente Netanyahu en una forma diplomática para Israel relacionada con el día después en el Gaza, que es un poco impresionante. Hay dos partes a esta historia. Uno es tal vez razonable. El otro es completamente malo. El razonable es el día después, especialmente en el aspecto económico, Tony Blair se convirtió en el pasado. Así que, esto hace sentido. La otra historia es tan rara y estoy contento de lo que ha sido, porque esta historia no es la primera vez que Israel está intentando empujar a los palestinianos en el Gaza. Quiero ser muy típico. Hay algunos oficiales en el Israel. Los que lo han metido. No es la primera vez que, hace un mes más, había un artículo en el Unión de la Tierra con dos miembros del Parlamento. Y uno de ellos es Shatid que llamando a los países en el mundo para aceptar los refugios palestinianos desde el Gaza. Los países árabes inmediatamente reaccionaron la idea. Los aplausos fueron de Smotrich, quien dijo que era muy bueno hacerlos en el Gaza. La verdad es que ahora viene de nuevo que alguien en el cabinet israelí entre las personas que lo han metido desea que los países nowan a los palestinianos en el Gaza para resolver el problema del Israel por empujar el Gaza. Esto es increíble. Y estoy contento de lo que lo negó. Y espero que esta idea no llegará de nuevo. Porque luego, en edición todo lo que será acusado en esta guerra, y el daño a la propiedad y así así, tendremos una transferencia en la lista también. Estoy contento de que esto desaparecerá. Espero que alguien con el día después, incluso si Tony Blair puede conozca con la economía. Es algo que tiene que ver con el presidente before. Grisha, no sé si quieres echarlo. Pero, por supuesto, quiero volver a Israel y a nuestro correspondiente, para informarles sobre lo que ha sucedido en la área, por supuesto, de las alturas alturas. Right. So we reported just an hour ago of the sirens for an incoming aerial threat confirmation from the idea for short while ago that three drones were launched out of Syrian territory towards Israel. Two of them actually did penetrate into Israeli area and both of them were intercepted by Israeli Air Force jets and that threat is now over. Of course, it comes after a day of more intense fighting, including anti-tank missiles fired towards IDF post near Kiryat Shmona and some strikes from Israel both by tanks and helicopters on Hezbollah post, mainly in the village of Ramya where Hezbollah has both observation points and also some terror activity that was targeting Israeli communities in recent days. Alright, Guy Azrael there in the north, thank you for that. Before I move on, I want to say Grisha, if you have any comment on these reports I should say none of this is confirmed about Tony Blair, but it does come at a time when we there has been more discussion coming out and there is a day after plan especially from the prime minister's office. I can say a few things about Tony Blair I worked with him personally in the past when he was the representative of the quartet in Israel. That's right and he had an office in Jerusalem. He had an office in Jerusalem and he did a great job when it came to ideas, to economical ideas to help the Palestinian Authority to become a future state and he was focused in that and we cooperated together as co-guards with him and when he denied things he meant it. So knowing him, working with him and not only meeting him is a very very reliable guy and he's an expert doing those things so if he's dealing with the day after I feel a little bit more comfortable with that. Alright, Grisha certainly interesting personality to return to the arena here. Gentlemen South, I want to move to another field with both security and diplomacy are certainly intermingled and that is the situation in and around the Red Sea. The shipping giant Merisk announced today it will suspend its vessels passages through the Red Sea for the next 48 hours. That's after earlier having cancelled them. This is following two attacks in just a few hours on one of its vessels transiting the Bob L. Mondab Strait off the coast of Yemen. Now the shipping company reversed as I mentioned before a similar decision following the formation of the US Navy-led coalition in the area a coalition that's now been put to a test and has drawn its first blood from the Houtis. Our Middle East correspondent Ariel Oceran has more in this report. A moment of truth for the US-led naval coalition in the Red Sea. American naval forces sank three Houthi small boats as they attacked a commercial vessel off the coast of Yemen on Sunday hours after the same vessel was hit by an anti-ship ballistic missile in a separate attack. The US Central Command said gunmen onboard the boats opened fire at the Danish-owned Merisk Hangzhou and attempted to board it. The gunmen then opened fire at US Navy helicopters responding to the distress call. The helicopters returned fire after killing its crews. A fourth boat fled the area. This would be the 24th attack by the Houthis on international shipping since October and the first ship to be attacked since the naval coalition was formed. The Houthis have emphasized many times in their statements that the actions taken in response to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict are only targeted at Israeli ships or ships related to Israel or ships heading to Israeli ports. Therefore, the United States propone la responsabilidad directa si alguna obstrucción o detección sucedió a los shipes entrando en el porto Udeida. Irán leads the access of evil and aggression against us on various fronts. This aggression is directed not only against Israel but against the entire free world. The attacks on the Merisk Hangzhou come as the shipping company announced it would resume sending its ships through the Red Sea due to the maritime coalition in the area. A statement since reversed following the latest attack. But continued attacks will test the coalition whether it's going to be more than a floating iron dome simply protecting ships or whether it will actually take proactive steps against the Houthi attacks. And Grisha, first on the security side as Ariel said, the question is that we've seen this coalition take its first sort of military action there but it was a defensive action and the question Ariel is saying is this going to be a floating iron dome is that going to be enough to hurt the Houthis or will this coalition have to take offensive action either at one of the ports in Yemen we heard about blockading one of the ports or even strikes within Yemen itself at the Houthis. Defensive, it depends who do you ask. If you ask the Houthis this is a declaration of war. I believe that the 10 Houthis that were killed by the United States at the area of Yemen, Bab el Mandab and the coordination between the United States in the UK with this coalition and some declarations about a possible reaction by this coalition is the declaration of another I don't know, a mini war or another round of escalation a little bit to the south closer to Iran and maybe this is the reason why just half an hour ago it was reported that Iran opened all their alerts or Iran is in high alert maybe to be or to deal with attacks coming from outside so I think it's another big event that started when three boats were destroyed by one of the United States boats and this is a beginning of maybe a new escalation in the south that will also take the attention let me ask you a lot about that because how significant and how does this come back to Israel if indeed we now see the United States and other countries as well and people are mentioning the UK taking part we heard Denmark joining start becoming militarily involved in the I guess you could call it sort of a wider conflict that basically erupted on October 7th we are in a regional war with an international dimension the Americans got involved militarily from day two or three of this war Right, moving this escalator our Minister of Defense said we are fighting in seven fronts Right and I think when we look at this war the fuel is that is feeding all these fronts is the Palestinian issue and this is something that is new to us because until the 6th of October the Palestinian issue was not around the talk of the town was they cannot get another state we are about to sign with Saudi Arabia diplomatic agreement and after we sign everybody will forget about them this situation was reversed what we see in the north of Israel with the Hezbollah and what we see with the Houthis and a lot of what we see in Syria and this is all fueled by the war in Gaza and West Bank too what you just said there was another attack in the West Bank so all these seven fronts do not have a life of their own they are being fed from the anger and the frustration maybe that is coming especially out of Gaza out of the pictures in Gaza out of the number of casualties in Gaza so as long as we fight massively in Gaza and who knows maybe soon massively in Lebanon these other fronts will stay alive Gentlemen I want to now turn to the issue the hostages the war cabinet is meeting this evening to discuss another thing a potential hostage deal there has been talk of 40 hostages being released in terms of some kind of ceasefire Hamas even demanding a full withdrawal as a price for that we are going to be joined again now by Gil Dickman whose cousin Carmel Gatt was taking hostage while visiting her parents in Kibbutzbury on October 7th which also saw her mother murdered other family relatives also kidnapped there Gil Dickman her cousin to Carmel and some of these others as well joining us from Tel Aviv Gil we spoke to you believe a couple of months ago really after that stormy meeting in the Kineset you did make your voice well spoken about how you feel the government is handling this situation now we are hearing talk of another deal I want to get your feedback on that because this same debate has ignited about weighing both the fate of the hostages against the other aim of the current conflict which is defeating Hamas well good evening the way I see it it's a clear choice because there are hostages there in Gaza and there is the goal of the annihilation of Hamas and destroying Hamas many people believe and many people understand more and more people believe and understand that you can't actually destroy Hamas as long as there are hostages there so as long as my cousin Carmel Gatt is there and as long as there are more than 100 hostages there the annihilation of Hamas is not possible so I think that every chance of us bringing back hostages home is welcome it's blessed and just like we thought before a few months ago before the first deal was signed what we said is that every deal opens the door to the next one and the next one and the next one and every hostage coming home brings a begin of hope for the next hostage to come home this is what we've been seeing this is what we saw when the wife of my cousin Yarden Roman was brought back home she's now with us alive and I really hope to see all the hostages coming home and the ones that we can see before the others are even better there are other voices of course of the families of the hostages must be heeded there are other voices in the debate including families of soldiers that have fallen in Gaza that want to see the operation continue continue against Hamas this is a difficult equation to balance I wonder if you are having this discussions yourself I got to tell you I know that there are many voices in many of the groups some families think that the Hamas hit all sorts of Israelis both as soldiers and as hostages in the families of the soldiers that have fallen they all say the same thing and just want the war to continue anyway I think there are families of soldiers who have fallen who want to see the hostages coming back because it's the most important thing and because it's the reason why their loved ones went to fight and I got to tell you I think that you can't actually you can't look at the group of all the families and look at us as a group of people who are the same but you can see that we are united in the way that we look at things and we see just like most of the Israeli public sees the goal of bringing back the hostages the most important thing right now mainly because if you ask Minister Gantz as he might have told you that's what he told us two weeks ago it's going to take time to destroy Hamas and the hostages don't have time it's that simple so you have to first make sure that you save their lives which is the most important thing for our nation as a life loving nation Israel and then you can deal with whatever you need to deal you need to finish this war you need to make sure that there is no terror organization that controls the lives of 2 million Palestinians and poses a threat on all of Israel y no justifies and we need to take all the hostages out Gil Dikman of course as always we wish for the safe return of Karmal Gato I believe is now one of the now I think 14 confirmed female hostages still being held if I'm not mistaken in Gaza and of course hopefully with the new year we'll see her return but of course with the turn of all the hostages from the Gaza strip thank you very much and good evening gentlemen Gil tries to reverse an equation which is the one we've heard from for example Prime Minister that's now when other officials the best way to get the hostages back is to continue the offensive put pressure on Hamas and continue the goal of eliminating Hamas and him saying you can't eliminate Hamas as long as there are hostages they are limiting the military operations along it's the 86 days I see of the war we are not getting hostages by fighting we are fighting them massively a long period of time we did not release in the other way around we killed three of them by our own soldier all this story that more military pressure is helping to release them or it has proved nonsense and I think there is nobody that cares more than the families when the families say you are not helping you are endangering our people the Israeli government has to listen to this vote but beyond the issue I as a diplomat I see that the Israeli government is not dealing seriously enough with the exchange because especially now in the last 24 hours the slow down of our fighting is a proof now they announced already that reserve soldiers are being released the only gap with the Hamas is if we stop the war or we don't stop the war there is no gap the all for all if it's a small deal but if we stop the war or not now you can find the definition that you exchange the hostages and you stop the war without stop fighting we never stop fighting here the fighting will go on after the war the fighting in Israel is going on always between the wars you know it better than anyone else covering this topic for so many years so it's only a matter of definitions the cabinet should deal with this issue of the hostages and let the army fight and I don't see the cabinet fighting on political issues all the time and all kind of military exaggerated declarations dealing enough with the issue of the hostages I want to see if you have a response because Grecia you will be leaving us in a few minutes well I think it's a little bit more complicated let's not forget yes I don't have you the leaders that need to take such a decision it's a very complicated one but all our enemies are sitting and watching what will Israel do with Gaza what will be the end of Gaza if we will implement Sinwa's demands and the other Nakhla demands they will all understand that we are weak because this is how we this is how they see us we are not strong enough we are weak and we are let's say playing to the hands of Sinwa that planned this dilemma in advance he knew and he is playing on three major tools one is the hostages and he knew that there would be huge pressure and two is the crisis in Gaza Hamas starve the people in Gaza and they will starve them to death because they know that those are the only tools that they will be able to achieve their victory they already won they only is the signature that they defeated the strongest military in the Middle East and this is a dilemma this is a real dilemma what to do to save the lives or to show weakness to the seven arenas that Minister Galán mentioned and this is what everybody are waiting to see you can respond just for a brief response this is a military conventional slogan of deterring deterring the enemy we didn't deter him and we will not deter him the policy of showing more and more and more power didn't work we were a regional superpower and there were nothing and look what they did to us and look what's happening in these seven fronts now so there is more to it than power much more to it than power we have to deal with the political diplomatic aspects of this war as well and the hostages issue is a diplomatic issue to take only the military tools that we have is not enough well this debate is surely the key debate underlying this situation and I'm sure it will continue outside the studio I want to thank Konogushi Yakubovich for joining us this evening I'm going to ask Ambassador Alon Leal to stay we have lots more to cover we will be back in just a few minutes with more and it's New Year's Eve for the rest of the world but for Israel it's more significantly day 86 of Israel's war against Hamas and the captivity of the hostages and Gaza as well stay with us in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting to be fought as well welcome back to this special broadcast on i24 news day 86 of Israel's war against Hamas stay with us and studio ambassador Alon Leal he's the former head of Israeli diplomatic mission to Turkey among many other assignments former director general of Israel's foreign ministry and we're joined by reserve IDF major general Eitan Dango he is the former military secretary defense ministers and former coordinator of government activities in the Palestinian territories we want to keep it a little focused on diplomacy for a minute Israel's operation against Hamas in Gaza has received some strong support from some nations but of course condemnation from others and of the latter among countries which Israel does have diplomatic relations with few have been as harsh as the reactions from South Africa after South Africa last month accused Israel of genocide both of the nations were called their respective ambassadors from Jerusalem and Pretoria on Friday South Africa took it up a notch filing a case against Israel and the international court of justice alleging that quote acts and admissions by Israel in Gaza are genocidal in character against the Palestinians well prime minister Netanyahu de la africa act this morning's cabinet meetings with these comments I would like to say a word about the deceitful lie that South Africa made up saying Israel is committing a genocide no South Africa we are not the ones who came to commit a genocide but Hamas has who would have killed us all given the chance the IDF is acting in the most moral way and it does everything to avoid harming civilians but Hamas is doing everything so that we hurt Gazans by using them as human shields I want to ask where was South Africa and all the rest who are blaming us where were you when millions were murdered and displaced in Syria and Yemen and other arenas you weren't there everything you are doing now is lying we will continue in the war to protect ourselves which is the most justified and it so happens we have in this studio as well the former Israeli ambassador to South Africa among his many diplomatic assignments alone Liel I guess in better days for the relationship between the countries though they've always been complicated alone this is especially painful for me because I was the ambassador to Nelson Mandela during the Oslo years and the relations were excellent because Mandela believed in Oslo Mandela believed that Rabin at the time is willing to give them a state and give them the freedom and I was a celeb in South Africa and he treated me personally very well I even brought him to Israel so this is terrible to watch for me as far as we don't have an ambassador they really kicked him out they asked him to leave a few years ago we didn't pull him out especially because of the Jewish community now we don't have an ambassador a similar situation happens with Turkey and we had a wonderful decade with Turkey in the 90s and we had a comeback now until on verge of this war a week before the war Netanyahu met one con these two countries reached the bottom with Turkey I think even the mere fact that we have a diplomatic link has a question mark now and we South Africa the same the parliament already decided to break the diplomatic link and for me who served in these two countries it's hard breaking Just one quick follow up is this you feel a temporary break because of current situation following with Gaza or is this a sign of more serious diplomatic rift continuing that would have some major consequences by the way we should also mention for a still notable Jewish community in South Africa South Africa itself is today not an important country not in a good economic shape and not even a leader regionally not in Africa it has this symbolic importance of the country that defeated the apartheid and the reason the countries are listening to South Africa is because of its history of defeating the apartheid and because of the accusations popping up that we apply apartheid methods in the west bank so the importance of South Africa is mostly symbolic nothing really serious we don't have meaningful economic ties with South Africa so the question with both countries Turkey and South Africa is what will happen with the Palestinians will this war end with a political diplomatic note or with a military note will it end with the ruined Gaza with the unbelievable number of people killed on both sides o will it end with something that looks like an agreement and hope again and I'm sure knowing these two countries very well that if we will end in an agreement we'll see a comeback with the relations, the bilateral relations with these two countries Well let's pick up that in a broader sense that question because we do have the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken supposedly coming back to Israel in the coming days this week presumably one of the key issues he wants to talk about is the so-called day after discussions with Prime Minister Netanyahu has delayed in the war cabinet though they are reports that they are supposed to be meeting this evening we don't know if they are discussing other fascinating reports we'll reiterate coming out saying that former British Prime Minister Tony Blair has been tapped to play a role by Prime Minister Netanyahu conflicting reports of the issues he dealt with would be the voluntary resettlement of some Palestinian Palestinians from Gaza we should note a spokesperson for Tony Blair denying that he will deal with that issue but not denying the fact that he's had discussions with Prime Minister Netanyahu about fulfilling a diplomatic role in order to reach out to so-called modern Arab states one would presume Egypt the Emirates perhaps Saudi Arabia for having a role in Gaza we're starting to see the formation of some kind of policy or at least structure in order to deal with these issues of governance in Gaza the day after above all you say that the day after has already begun so all the talks about that is talk etc it can be on the level of the cabinet that the Prime Minister is not willing to face a conflict with his political partners in the present coalition but I'm sure the Prime Minister knows the work very well from the past and from my experience it has started on the time that we already started this war after the tragedy that happened and what you see now is the main thing that there are thoughts about the structure to lead and to bring to yes, this is something we should look at it in a very serious way it means that we understand that the covering and the umbrella that will be in the Gaza we have to drop outside completely Qatar and we have to say it loudly because Qatar was one of the main let's say enablers operators that brought us to this situation this is another thing that I hope time come will be here a very deep investigation not towards Qatar, I mean towards us who were there who influenced about Qatar and what was his interest this is something for the side secondly about the present situation in Gaza I think that the arrival of Anthony Blinken with Amos Eckstein in Lebanon also means that the American identify that we are in a very important junction from both sides of the American interest en el norte maybe we will talk about it later to prevent a wall on the south it means how to go on and to maybe make the process towards the stage that we will be able to control security already the start this is the beginning and to see how we can cover the area with civil activities that will not be any presentation of Hamas the way to do it at the beginning it already said loudly doesn't matter which words you use it can be a local civil a management that will be based on local people that are the professionals let call it professionals that knows to to lead the municipalities know to where and above it there is a question of what will be with the PA in my opinion the efforts to bring to moderate Arab countries will not succeed without some kind of building the PA inside Tony Blair has been the head of quartet in my time as military secretary to the minister of defense and also later on as the co-guard he has a lot of experience he has a lot of weight in those Arab countries like the Emirate or a kind of Saudi Arabia etc. he is the right person I don't know if he will be accepted by the other side but that means you are working for creating something international in this way it will be very difficult for this the timing that we start but we have to do it we are on the beginning you see the steps that are taken by IDF operationally showed you that the ITF está en contra de esta solución en mi opinión estará empezando en 2 a 3 semanas y no olvides Just a word Qatar el único suceso diplomático que tuvimos en los últimos 3 meses durante la guerra fue el primer round de cambio de los prisons de hostes no habría sucedido sin Qatar y si tienes un mecanismo que podría generar con Qatar, Egipto Estados Unidos y por supuesto decidir será increíble arreglar este mecanismo y comenzar a construir un nuevo mecanismo para el segundo round debemos mantener este mecanismo y veamos que Qatar regresó a la foto sin Qatar no tendremos otro round de cambio pero, señoras y señores desde que mencionaste el rival de Amos Hockstein a Lebanon con el issue de Lebanon un correspondiente diplomático ha preparado un reporte para encontrar una solución diplomática para la situación en el norte vamos a ver America's Point Man en Lebanon con Amos Hockstein ha preparado un reporte para volver a Beirut para intentar arreglar una reunión que llevaría quieto a la bordera entre Lebanon y Israel la manera que hizo el último año con la bordera entre las zonas de la tierra la parte más importante de este acuerdo es que es todo en el interés de cada país para no violar y para seguir ahora, por supuesto, es la guerra y el elemento de la guerra el Tierra de la Lebanon en el que el grupo de la terror de la Lebanon ha estado preparando cuatro meses en las comunidades de Israel y el militar israelí ha respondido a la preparación de la tarjeta la administración de la biedra desea que la situación condena bajo el estrés de una guerra más grande como es el gobierno de la Francia Israel ha matado más que 130 fighteres de la Isla y las agencias de Israel y el presidente de Israel de la guerra. Haxxin es un plan parente para incentivar a Haxxin a mover sus miembros fuera de la borda de Israel. En cambio, para un parente concesión de Israel marcando esa borda, en al menos algunos de los 13 puntos de disputa. La administración de la Biedad de la Biedad de la Biedad de la Biedad de la Biedad de la Biedad de la Biedad La administración de la Biedad de la Biedad no quiere una Cuerza Yol temas. Israel no quiere una Cuerza Yol Covid. El pueblo de Lebanon no quiere una Cuerza Yol. Todos losενan para que sea que patent dusty por una stata muy peluja de la Cuerza Yol. Kap halt. Por diólogo. Por Surech y arro tighter. aber shortly. los 80,000 residentes de comunidades a través de la israelía en el borde, que han sido evacuados un poco al norte, para que estén fuera de la luna de su fightero balo. Bueno, uno de ellos nos está acompañando ahora, Batchan Lavey. Ella es un residente de la ciudad de Kiryat Shmona, que fue evacuado a Moshev Levneem, también en el norte de Israel, tal vez un poco al norte de eso. Pero más importante, ella es un miembro del grupo Lavey 1701, que envió esta ¿Es esa mensaje que está pasando? Porque hay personas que se sienten que el U.S. paro de las seis fuerzas y sus viajes a la costa de Lebanon, no solo para tratar de deterir su bala, sino también para deterir el gobierno israelí de actuar más fortaleceramente contra su bala. En realidad, es verdad que todos lo creen. Estoy muy feliz de estar aquí hoy, para hablar de la acción y de lo que hacemos en el Lavey 1701. Pero tu pregunta es, en realidad, quiero decirles, Batchan, que nos enviamos esto después a la administración del gobierno de la Biden. Y la exacta propuesta fue a enfasar el falso de este atentamiento para darles una solución, una solución diplomática con esta idea de poner la línea dentro de Israel. Queremos un barco que estará fuera de Israel en el Lavey 1701. Y no lo que tenemos ahora, porque lo que tenemos ahora es imposible. Es una realidad inimaginable. La situación no es imposible, porque no podemos vivir en nuestros hogares. Hemos quedado fuera de nuestros hogares en una decisión del gobierno. Y ahora, como dices, estoy quedando en los últimos tres meses con mi familia, en el nombre de Moksha, ¿estás bien? Estás en el Lavey 1701. Está todavía en el norte. Pero el problema es que no podemos volver a nuestros hogares. No podemos volver con nuestros niños y dormir tranquilamente a la noche, como dices. Ok, entonces, obviamente, sientes que el gobierno, la acción de la política del U.S. no se ha aprobado efectivamente a este punto. Vamos a hablar de la acción del gobierno de Israel, que ha sido, más o menos, para permitir este tipo de cifras a fuego por el barco al precio de la residencia del norte, como dices, en order a contener el conflicto. Obviamente, hay voces en el gobierno de Israel que están expresando frustración ahora contra su política, incluso en el cabinet. Hay voces, aunque, que dicen, ¿qué más puede ser hecho? ¿Están vamos a tener una guerra de full-scale con su bolsillo, al mismo tiempo, que están engañados en este conflicto en Gaza? Entonces, ¿qué es tu respuesta? Puedo decir, ¿qué es la respuesta del Lavey 1701 a esas voces? Es obvio que no podemos contener dos lados de la guerra juntos. Entendido que tenemos que terminar, el Lavey entendió que tenemos que terminar la guerra en Gaza, pero, de la manera en que somos casi tres meses fuera de nuestra casa, fuera de nuestro hogar, fuera de nuestra comunidad. Y esta es una situación muy difícil, pero lo decimos a nuestro gobierno. Como el gobierno en el mundo, sabemos que los Estados Unidos y France están colocando sus manos en este intento para crear alguna solución diplomática. Nosotros queremos decir que tenemos que saber que nuestro gobierno está taking a stand y dando a nosotros, chicos en el norte, vamos a ayudarte con eso, no vamos a llevarnos a casa como eso. Es imposible ir a casa como eso. Tenemos a Cris Bala, estando en la bordera y mirando a todos los días, todos los días, y vimos eso antes de esta guerra, por lo tanto, así que era muy obvio. Entonces, para nosotros, es más obvio. Queremos hablar de la responsabilidad de nuestro gobierno y de la responsabilidad de los poderes de los Estados Unidos, como decimos antes en el francés, sabemos que la solución diplomática no es la única solución. Queremos, queremos a nuestro gobierno dar un mensaje que dice, vamos a ayudarte, no vamos a quedar como esto, vamos a hacer algo que te ayudará a sentir y no solo sentir el sentimiento de la seguridad, queremos una cierta seguridad en el norte y en la bordera de Israel. Bueno, yo quiero preguntar a un nivel personal, a vosotros de Kirchner, a los que saben su historia, o a los que han estado viviendo longas, como yo, recuerda cuando era en la ciudad de Kutushot, cuando era under constantes atacos de las fuerzas palestinianas, cómo frustrante debe ser para esos residentes de Kirchner, especialmente a los que recuerdan esos días. Creo que me parece a 24, pero no, estoy 43 años, y me llevo todo mi vida en el hielo. Sí, cuando volví a Shabbat de la armadura, otras personas, otros soldados, volví a la armadura en sández, pero yo no, me recuerdo en muchas veces quedando después de Shabbat en la Miquelaz, no volviendo, tuvimos 30 años muy difíciles en la bordera norte, en Kirchner y en otros lugares, en la bordera, es muy, muy frustrante, muy, ahora soy una madre, tengo dos niños, y la realidad parece diferente de cuando era joven o soldado, ahora tengo responsabilidad, y esto es lo más frustrante, porque no soy mi propia, y como yo, otros 8000 personas de la bordera norte, no pueden volver a su casa, no podemos tener una normalidad hasta que algo va a, algo va a ser hecho aquí. Right. Tenemos demanda de nuestro gobierno, una reacción militar para aplicar el esencia de 1701 a los militares, la territoria en Lebanon, y no a Israel como es hoy. Allá, Pachán Levy. No, esto es nuestra demanda. Ok, Pachán Levy, gracias por ayudarnos en la noticia de I-24. Gracias, gracias. Te escuchas la frustración, gentlemen. ¿Es una solución diplomática para esta crisis o a Israel más tarde, a lo largo de, creo que es lo que puede ser llamada la Segunda Lebanon War? Primero, no tenemos dos wars separados en el sur y en el norte, es la misma guerra. No hay solución diplomática para el periodo de Lebanon, pero hay una guerra en Gaza. Si hay una solución diplomática, empezará con el palestiniano. Esto es lo que veo. Pero respecto a lo que hemos escuchado, esta testimonia es heartbreaking. Esa gente está sufriendo mucho y entiendo la demanda para atacar y así. Pero uno de los objetivos de esta guerra que tenemos ahora es que estemos parte de la comunidad internacional. No podemos hacer lo que queremos. En estos dos frances, Israel estará en el globo y en esta región, después de la guerra, es más o menos. Y tenemos que especialmente mantener nuestra francia con los Estados Unidos, pero también con el resto del mundo internacional. Y no podemos solo hacer cosas y la presión como una revención y así. Tenemos que tomar la foto internacional en consideración. Pesos principales. Primero, la escalación con la bala es, como fue dicho, en un nivel bajo, pero ha desaparecido en las últimas dos semanas. Incluido. Incluido. Incluido. Incluido en las últimas dos semanas. Y podría decir que tiene una ruta. La ruta es la ruta que el Estados Unidos pide para evitar una guerra real. La otra cosa es el error de la guerra de Israel no usando un concepto de la prevención ofensiva con la bala de Israel en el pasado. Así que ahora tenemos 80,000 a 100,000 personas que no están viviendo en su lugar. Israel debería añadir el principal o a su objetivo. El hecho que el añadimiento de esta guerra debería ser moviendo la bala de Israel. No hay duda de eso. Es algo que estamos hablando de. Pero Bibi Netanyahu tiene que decir oficialmente que ahora es otro objetivo de esta guerra aparte de lo que él describa o mencionó en el sur. Para mover la bala de Israel en el pasado, ¿verdad? No sé cuánto. Ok, pero para mover por fuera de la ruta. El hecho es que una madre o padre no abre la puerta de su casa. No verá de la casa de los niños las fases de la bala de Israel terroristas a pocos metros de su lugar. Seguramente, ¿cómo hacer esto sobre tu pregunta? Creo que el diplomático debería ser el fin del juego para arrangar. Pero, infortunadamente, hasta ahora ha falto. Tal vez ahora desde el hecho que Oxten en Lebanon y Brincen estará aquí, ayudará a crear algo sobre este objetivo. Pero, en mi propia estimación, creo que, infortunadamente, pero tuvimos que hacer un aumento de la situación en el sur desde el lado militar de Israel. Ahora veas que Israel ya ha declarado el idioma de la IDF que ha movido algunos brigados, el concepto de usar la actividad militar en Gaza ahora está sufriendo la cunciera y sobre los otros serán una especie de actividades de seguridad por individuos. La frontera está ahora moviendo al norte. Jizbalán sabe. Jizbalán no ha yet defeatido los 130 personas que han muerto. Es algo que Jizbalán está usando para ver a ellos cómo participan en esta guerra. La verdadera guerra no ha comenzado. Y creo que no podremos ser útiles por actividades militares con la acción del punto de vista diplomático. Entonces será la solución. No tenemos ningún derecho a meterlo en esta oportunidad. Eso es tiempo para llevar a Israel a otro escenario. Los bordes en Gaza, los bordes en el norte deberían ser diferentes y la seguridad de seguridad. Próximamente solo. Próximamente. A mí, personalmente, es una noche que esta guerra va a terminar con nosotros estando en Gaza, todo esto, y estando en Lebanon hasta el Dali Tani y estando en el norte. No creo que podremos hacer una cosa para un largo periodo de tiempo. Definitivamente no internacional por aspectos diplomáticos, sino también económicamente y socialmente para estar ahí en todas las fronteras para tener 100% de seguridad. No trabajaremos de otros aspectos. Hace mucho tiempo que terminé solo en el Dali Tani. Gracias por acompañarnos. Como mencioné hace un par de veces, es Nueva Year's Eve hoy. Algunas construcciones en las construcciones israelías, la municipalidad de Tel Aviv, el Kineset, se han lanzado con las luces raras, que han sido el símbolo de los hosteges, de la casa de los hosteges, la estación de poder ahí afuera de Tel Aviv. Presidente Herzog ha lanzado un mensaje de Nueva Year, que quiero leer a ti cuando vayamos. En 2024, llamé a las naciones de la familia, de los líderes de todo el mundo para demandar y trabajar para el avión de un avión de 133 hosteges. Babes, las mujeres adultas están llevadas en brutal capturación en Hamas con esa medicina vital o visitación de la Red Cross. El avión de inmediato está en el coro de la batalla con Hamas, Terras y Gaza. ¿Puede llamar la oscuridad y el Nueva Year para llevar paz, esperanza y desgracia a todos? Amén. Gracias por ayudarnos. Israel está en un estado de guerra. Las familias son completamente descuidadas en sus caballos. No tenemos idea de qué preocuparse. Como soldados, estamos lutando en la línea de frente, pero la percepción general es algo que también necesita ser tomado. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra, la reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. En el nuevo año, la IDF está descuidando y descuidando en la una mano, reduciendo las fuerzas en la zona de guerra y en la otra, elevando la pressión en el escenario de la zona de guerra. En el norte, el avión de la cross-border con Hezbollah continúa y en el Red Sea una ofensiva anti-cruciosa. Los juegos parecen y parecen a instaurar más. Sin embargo, no hay progreso en el parámetro de la desgracia, pero un líder formal o global está llegando al día después del negocio y queremos que se empacen a todo esto y mucho más aquí en el estudio con el señor Jacob Lapin, Militaria y Estrategia de Fierce Análogo, el sindicato de la Nación de los Juegos y el Instituto Miriam, el señor Lapin, muchas gracias. Para unirnos a Soled, primero y foremost, intentamos entender mejor lo que está pasando ahora en la Gala Strip porque hemos escuchado hace una hora la idea de la persona de la Iglesia y confirmando lo que hemos visto en el grano, los trupeños están tirando a casa, a romper, a regroupar, pero eso no significa que la operación en el grano es menos intensa, así que ¿cómo se mantiene? Es toda parte de la idea de esta acercación muy targeted a esta guerra, en áreas en el norte de Gaza donde la idea se ha asesinado, que no solo ha destruido las batallones, las batallones, las grandes estructuras de comandos territoriales, pero también ha eliminado la habilidad de estas formaciones para regroupar, eso es donde se siente que puede llevar su cuchillo a la gasa, y ahora vemos que el punto focal está en una área diferente, no más, principalmente en el grano de Gaza, aunque hay pocos en los que las operaciones están movidas, pero está moviendo claramente contra un número de puntos de focal, uno de ellos es el Gaza de Centro, que ya estamos en el día 4 de una gran ofensa de el Gaza de Centro, el Álvaro de Alborridge, otro, por supuesto, es el Chanyunis, el gran hold mayor donde el Hamas está still fighting for it, el terraso está volviendo de las batallones, haciendo su run de hit con AK-47 y RPG lanzadores y desapareciendo de nuevo, y la liderazgo es creada en esa área, en esa área, probablemente hay una línea de batallones estratégicas que aún hay que destruir, y right next to Chanyunis es el otro área, el Chirbat Ixa, donde también vemos una gran pelea. Entonces, la idea es hacer sus acesiones y dejar las fuerzas ir. Creo que tiene dos intereses en hacer eso. Una, hay una presión económica, una demanda para el reservista para volver a sus trabajos, para empezar, comenzar la economía, estamos en una situación de guerra, y la más la fuerza crea y regresa a normal, lo mejor para la economía israelia, no podemos ignorar eso. Y creo que el segundo es también, tal vez, algunas de estas fuerzas tendrán que ser deployados al norte, tal vez, a la borda, tal vez, debajo de la borda, no sabemos, tal vez, necesitan un resto, y puede ser más grande las consideraciones que hay aquí. No, no es un maratón, en todos los fronos. Vamos a hacer un resto, la frontera del sur, la frontera del sur, como en el áxiz de la Philadelphia, porque, de lo que entendemos, hay algunas deliberaciones entre Israel y el U.S. en la instalación de este, no sé, barrio, tal vez, en el término acurso, pero para asegurar que hay algún tipo de control de lo que viene en y lo que va a salir, que va de dos formas, ahí, en la borda de Al-Gaza. Sí, yo creo que esto es crítico, porque, si miramos la gran imagen, este estado de la guerra es sobre destruir las capacidades de Hamas, sus toneladas, sus rodillas, su habilidad de lanzar la borda de la cruz, los ataques de las muertes, es todo sobre eliminar esas capacidades, pero ¿qué cantidad de Hamas es capaz de rebuilde las capacidades? Y eso es donde la cuarta de la Philadelphia viene. Israel tiene control, hay algún tipo de control de esa área, de otra manera, van a continuar asesorando armas de la Sinai Peninsula. Ellos producen armas, domesticamente en Gaza, y asesoran armas desde Egipto. Todas esas cosas tienen que ser targetadas desde hace años, y las Hamas no pueden rebuildar muchas de las capacidades. Si estos logros están preservados, ese es el contexto para la discusión de la Philadelphia que está bajo. Sí, me siento que se recuerda, ¿cuándo fue? Pero se mencionó hace varias semanas que si hasta no hace mucho tiempo para llevar un carro en la Gaza, que tenía que dividir en piezas y llevarlo en y luego asamblarla. Ahí, ahora los carros, son solo movidos a través de esas diferentes infraestructuras que se realizaron, pero Hamas obviamente es algo que no es sustentable en este aspecto. Es un sáitano, Mr. Lapin, un interesante reporte que me interesa hacer un take on that that Chinese weapons and en masses are found in the Gaza Strip and I wouldn't say that the Chinese reaction to the situation came as a total surprise and yet there was some sort of a healthy relationship between Jerusalem and Beijing in recent years. Right. I mean China has provided arms to many actors in the Middle East and some of those arms have gone through the Iranian arms smuggling network into the Gaza Strip. It's not that China has armed Hamas so much as it has sent arms to Iran, sold arms to Iran and some of those ended up as well as Russian made weapons as well. So it's like saying a Chinese chip was found in Gaza. Just the weapons are everywhere and they're getting into the Gaza Strip. Exactly. China's interest I think in the Middle East is for stability because it's the main source of its oil and it has relationships with every side here. It's pretty agnostic when it comes to the Middle East. It has relationships. It's nothing personal. Yeah, it's got major cooperation going on with Iran, with Saudi Arabia. It would want to have wider cooperation with Israel but that's not a possibility because of the wider Chinese American rivalry and the United States is not going to let its close allies move closer to China. So that's the situation. Certainly the Chinese role in the region has to be monitored because I think the Chinese are looking to increase not only their economic footprint but also their political footprint. Their diplomatic clout, Iran, Saudi Arabia. And that should translate into a military future footprint as well. We saw a base being built, a logistics naval base in the UAE, which infuriated the Americans. So. And you know just in hindsight circling back to all those tense sticking points between Jerusalem and Washington over the Chinese involvement here in Israel. It all looks quite different. Yes. This point in time. All right. We do want to head north now to I-2040's correspondent, Zach. And the south. Zach is in the south. I'm so used to seeing you up north. Zach, but now in a different arena there. Zach, as we've been discussing here in studio, forces being taken out but the operation on the ground intensifies as we speak. Yeah, the IDF today says with new release of data that there has been a precipitous drop and the amount of rocket launches that have come out of the Gaza Strip that the control over the northern Gaza Strip has improved the security situation for the IDF. The southern Gaza Strip, however, and Conyunus is now the challenge. The countdown to the new year is also bringing with it a few other countdowns as well. The countdown to finding Sinwar and attempting to release the remaining hostages, finding them as well. It does appear that it's really in the IDF mindset only a matter of time until they accomplish those milestones but it does pose some very specific challenges. They have released more information about the tunnel network underneath Conyunus. Some of these tunnels are 20 meters deep below the ground. The conventional weapons inside the arsenal, some of the missiles and bombs don't reach that deep. They do, but it would cause immense damage and the collateral damage inside this densely populated city would be tremendous. So to be able to root out this Hamas network underneath the tunnels, the dogs and the drones that have been going in and attempting to map this tunnel network the passageways, it only gets you information. The next step is going to be human personnel inside this tunnel network attempting to root out Hamas and that will be one of the last giant tremendous challenges. Yeah, yes, absolutely. And the idea for a spokesperson clarifying this evening after much public discourse that for any need underground there is a very coherent aerial backing, this aerial umbrella as he put it to the forces underground there. The fight continues. Zac Anders, I-24 News Correspondent, down south with the I-24 News team. Thank you very much for this, Zac, and from south we're heading north now. I-24 News Senior Correspondent, Guy Azrael with the I-24 News team, of course, on the Israel-Lebanon border. Guy, another intense day, another day of war up in the north, albeit perhaps tiny, less eventful than the previous days, but definitely, you know, flirting with the war threshold, no doubt about that. Es el de less than two hours to midnight in the new years, not a festive atmosphere here at all, unless you're into the sound of those Israeli fighter jets that keep flying over our heads and confirmation just moments ago from the IDF that those same aircrafts have intercepted an aerial threat that came from the east. We know that that was under surveillance and did not cross into Israeli territory, but less than two hours ago, two other drones from Syria actually have penetrated Israeli territory, also were intercepted by Israeli fighter jets. A third drone did not cross and therefore was not intercepted earlier today. We also saw two anti-tank missiles fired towards an IDF post near the Lebanon border. No injuries in that case and the IDF has responded with artillery. We also saw several instances where the IDF struck Hezbollah squads with helicopters and with tanks. So quite a lot of activity today. Also another strike this morning in a village of Ramya where Hezbollah operatives were launching rockets several days ago from. So quite a lot happening in the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, was very clear this morning in the cabinet, sorry, in the government meeting saying that we will restore the calm here in the north, be it by diplomatic or military means if needed. Yes, well, at this point in time, no end in sight, unfortunately. I-24, new senior correspondent, Guy Israel. Thank you very much for this. Back here in studio with Mr. Yakov Lapin. Mr. Lapin, Good riddance 2023. 2024 is beginning in an hour and a half, just a bit over an hour and a half from now here in Israel. Prime minister, promising blood, sweats and tears last night, long, long months of war and this is only when talking about the south. Right. We are unfortunately going to be facing many months of conflict. That is the phase that we're in. That is a phase that Hamas threw us in. The collapse of many delusions, the delusions that we could contain our enemies, that we could set up robust perimeter defenses. All those things are now clearly have collapsed as concepts. And yeah, the question of whether months of war will be limited to the south or whether they will expand north and whether Xizbala and Lebanon become the primary war arena have been hovering over this situation from October 7th. As time goes by, we're seeing a gradual intensification of the hostilities in the north. For me, it's difficult to see how this can be resolved peacefully because Israel is going to be demanding a buffer zone and Xizbala is not going to give Israel that buffer zone. And so all of these diplomatic negotiations seem to be sort of running in circles, trying to square a circle. And it's very difficult. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt. Maybe they'll pull off a miracle, but there is such a clear collision course and it's not only a buffer zone. Xizbala's whole center of gravity is southern Lebanon. It has 200 Chiite villages and it's main base of operations. Bunkers are there. There are also tunnels not like in Gaza, but there are. And rockets and mortar shells, it's all there. And the intent is not going to change. You know, if we've learned anything in the past year is that we need to assess the enemy, not according to the stated intentions or the perceived quite, but according to abilities and in terms of abilities, Xizbala is more than capable. 100%. And also if we look at Xizbala's actions over the past two years, they have been trying to drag Israel into some kind of conflict. They sent a bomber last year, in March, sorry, and that could have created a mass casualty in city. The tents, Mr. Lapin, for how many months we've been talking about those. Right. Intent. And we didn't even say a word about the Houthis, but we will fortunately safely assume that we will continue to talk about all of this next year as well. Mr. Yakov Lapin, thank you very much for joining us. Let's hope for a better year. And we want to end this broadcast by focusing on what one counts on the people, the freed zooming in into the unbelievable tale of the broad-aged family. Avigai was fighting off terrorists on October 7th, only to find out that his wife, agarrando her three children, been kidnapped into Gaza, along with their neighbor's daughter, a four-year-old Avigai Lidan. Her parents were murdered. After 51 days of homascriptivity, they were all reunited now for the first time there. They're talking about how they survived, how they managed to remain sane, how the kids learned to cry silently and how Avigai became a family member in an instant, a very powerful piece. You have to watch, take a look. When you look at them like that, do you still see the signs, remains of Gaza of October 7th? Yes, yes, it was a war of survival. I was always thinking about when will be the next time your children will get food, when the sun will rise, there will be some light in the room and you won't be in complete darkness. Every day you think you've reached the bottom of hell, there's no getting lower, but one day after another, you find out there's another step and you take one more step down to hell and you carry your children together with you on your back. 51 days, they were in hell. Agarr with her three children, ten-year-old Ofri, eight-year-old Yuval, cuatro-year-old Aurea, y el que, en captividad, fue Agarr's fourth daughter, Avigal Idan, también, solo cuatro años. Para 51 días, Avigay, su padre, fue a la familia que fue kidnapped de su casa, mientras que estaba fuera de luchar con la Seguridad Seguridad de Cuba. En la mañana, cuando todo empezó, Avigay me llamó a venir y cerrar la puerta después de él. Él miró a las personas de la puerta para ver que no había terror o nada como eso. Veo que notó algo. Veo a Avigay a las personas. Cuando se murió, se murió. Se murió después de él y le llamó, Guli, Guli, no, no, no, no se murió, así que tenía que grabarlo y llevarlo a mí. Inmediatamente cerraré la puerta después de él. Estaba cubrida en la piel, no las niñas, sino sus padres. Me agujé, grabé, intenté limpiarla. Ella dijo a su hermano que la mamá y su padre murieron y que tenía que morir. Y así se hicieron. No me di cuenta de la magnitud de los eventos hasta el momento que los terroristas entraron a casa. 4 horas después. ¿Y qué sucedió cuando se entró? Me pregunté a los niños para cobrar a ellos con blanquets. Se cobran a ellos. Me corté la luz y me metí. Hay un espacio entre la puerta de la rueda de la casa. Me metí ahí, y me metí en la puerta como mucho como possible. No tan particularmente fuerte. En el final, lo hicieron. Hacían al menos 15 terroristas dentro de la casa. Y cuando se volvieron y se volvieron en la luz en la rueda de la casa, me empezaron a creer. Están solo niños. No hacen nada a ellos. Y entonces los niños took off their blanquets y empezaron a llorar y a creer. Ellos took us in my car, the five of us, with three other terrorists, two sitting in the front, one sitting in the back. Cuando llegamos a Gaza, fue el alcalde de uno de ellos. Ellos se volvieron en la rueda y se volvieron en la rueda. Se volvieron en las ruedas de la rueda. La manera en la que entramos en Gaza, fue un gran show para ellos. Ellos se volvieron en la rueda de la casa, se volvieron en la rueda de la casa, me atendieron, me volvieron en la rueda. Y en Ofrí, los terroristas se volvieron en la rueda para mostrarles a todos lo que un precio se volvieron. Era muy temprano, muy temprano. Esto es un momento en el que perdiste control. Luzas control. Luzas la protección. Todo lo que creas para tus niños. Estos minutos son los minutos que rompen todo. Son momentos de horror. Cuando estabas en Gaza, ¿qué piensas sucedió a todos? No lo sé, a veces pensé que no lo vería. A veces pensé que no lo vería Rodney. Te diré lo que pensé en el carro. Pensé que íbamos a matar a nosotros en el carro. ¿Verdad? Sí, porque tenían armas. Era estrésfulo. Estuvimos sabrosos. Pensé que íbamos a matar a todos en el carro, en vez de ir a casa. ¿Qué piensas, después de mucho tiempo y pasado, y todavía estuviste ahí? Que no volveríamos, y que tendríamos que vivir en Gaza. Eso es realmente lo que pensé. ¿Cómo viviste ahí? Entonces, se siente que el cuerpo y el corazón se pueden crear tantos mecanismos de survivamiento que no se sienten nada. No te sientes cansado, tu corazón es limpa, no te sientes cansado, no te sientes lleno... Te sólo survivas para estos cuatro pequeños niños. No te sientes lleno. ¿Te sientes lleno? ¿Cómo puedo sorpreender? ¿Cómo puedo sorpreender? Tengo cuatro niños pequeños que tengo que mirar, que tengo que proteger en esta ruta. ¿Cómo te pagaste tu día ahí? ¿Qué pareció? En la primera casa en la que vivimos tuvimos dos libros de notas y penas de hielo. Y nos metimos con eso, intentando esconderlos y traer o jugar. Hemos jugado a muchos países, yo y los grandes. Y el tiempo pasó lentamente. El día nunca terminó. En la segunda casa que vivimos, me pregunté si tenían tarjetas. Entonces me traen tarjetas y también una sortida de imitación de Taki. Y nosotros tendríamos mucho el día jugando tarjetas. Muchos de la conversación. Muchos y muchos de la conversación porque era prohibido. Era prohibido hablar, era prohibido esconderte. Puede haber una sombra que recordara que haya israelí en casa, que era prohibido bravo y que era prohibido rir y que era prohibido en salud, obviamente. ¿Cómo te digas no ser tanraidas para mentir? ¡Wow! Afri aprendió a llorar tranquilamente. Uv, fue difícil para él aprender a llorar tranquilamente, pero él eventualmente sucedió. En las pequeñas, fue difícil. No puedes enseñar a un joven de 4 años a llorar tranquilamente. Se celebró a Afri 10 de febrero, y en la noche se convirtió en 20. Ella era mi compañera. Ella era el angel que miró a mí en esta historia. Uv, mi sensible chico, quien siempre necesitaba a mí lo más, fue de repente un hombre. De repente se vio que no tenía una para ser un joven para cuidarse, pero dos de ellos. Y él sabía cómo ayudarme con eso. Y con Uriyan Abigay, fue difícil. Uriyan es mi joven. Y ahora tenía una pequeña chica que se vio por el helo. Cuando lo comieres, lo comieres un poco para que puedas dejar mucho para ellos. Porque no tienes otra opción. Están cansados. Fue un gran honger. Estaban estirando. Cuando me pregunté para comida, me dijeron, ¿cuáles son los niños que comer solo pida a día? Sí, por 24 horas, es lo que cada uno de nosotros puede comer. Es la madre de cada uno de nosotros, para estar en una situación en la que buscamos comida para dar a sus niños. No quiero eso. Ese día fue Abigay's birthday, el 24 de noviembre. Y ella kept saying, I'm still three years old. I'll celebrate my fourth birthday when I return home. We drove in the Red Cross's car. And when we arrived, I met Hen Goldstein, and her children. And Hen, when she saw me, she shouted to me, Hagar, Abigay is waiting for you. I heard it on the radio. The abductee who was with me at the beginning was with her at the end. And she told her about us. That's when I found out, Abigay was alive. All the barriers came down and the tears started falling. The truth is that what awaited us in Israel, it was something that I really did not expect. For 51 days in captivity, I was sure they forgot about us. It was simply unbelievable. Everyone coming together from citizens who do not know me at all, to the doctors in Schneider Medical Center, people who really gave to us from the bottom of their hearts. I can't believe four weeks have already passed. I've been here four weeks and they haven't. There are 129 hostages, which is an astronomical number. We're not here. In the end, we're lucky. We got our family back. It will be a long process, but they will be fine. We will work on it. We will do everything so that the joy will return. That the security will return to them. There's no other choice. Mom, what my child? We are concluding this horrendous year. Definitely a goodbye. No, see you later here. With some of the hostages back home, like the project family, so many of them, too many of them, still being held captive in the Gaza Strip for 86 days now and counting. As the new year begins, we can only hope that whatever is needed to be done in order to bring them all back home will indeed be done as soon as possible. And let's do hope that this new year will bring some blessings, some good, the power of good. May we be bombarded with good this year. And let's do hope that on top of it all we will be able to maintain and sustain the sense of togetherness, this resilience and this source of our strength. Thank you very much for watching. Have a happy good new year. Un ataque. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. Entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra. La reacción de los países hispanoparlantes. News 24, el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en Israel. News 24, únicamente en I-24 News. Welcome to the special broadcast here on I-24 News, of the war in Israel. On the eve of the new year, the IDF is scaling back and scaling up on the one hand, reducing forces in the Gaza Strip, on the other, upping the pressure in the southern stronghold of Al-Khanounis. In the north, the cross-border fire with Hezbollah continues and in the Red Sea, an anti-hoothy offensive gains seem and likely to intensify further. Meanwhile, no progress on a hostage release deal, but a high profile charitable leader is getting into the day after business and we want to unpack all of this and much more here in studio with Mr. Yakov Lapin, military and strategic affairs and all of the Jewish news syndicate and the Miriam Institute. Mr. Lapin, thank you very much for joining us so let's first and foremost try to get a better understanding of what is happening now in the Gaza Strip because we've heard just a short hour ago the idea of spokespersons essentially confirming what we've already seen on the ground essentially troops are getting out going home to take a break to regroup, but that does not mean that the operation on the ground is less intense so how do you amend this gap? It's all part of the IDF's very targeted approach to this war in areas in northern Gaza where the IDF has assessed that it has not only destroyed Hamas' battalions, brigades, its larger territorial command structures but also has eliminated the ability of these formations to regroup that's where it feels it can take its foot off the gas and now we see that the focal point is in a different area it's no longer mostly northern Gaza although there are a few pockets where mopping up operations are continuing but it's moving clearly in other words a number of focal points one of them is central Gaza that's already we're in day four of a major offense yeah of central Gaza the Alboridge area another one of course is Chanyunas the major stronghold where Hamas is still fighting for it it's still the terrorists are coming out of the tunnels doing their hit and run with AK-47s and RPG launchers and disappearing back in destroyed there and right next to Chanyunas is another area where we're also seeing major fighting going on so the idea is doing his assessments and letting forces go I think it has two interests in doing that one there is a economic pressure a demand for reservists to come back to their jobs to kickstarting the economy we're in a war economy situation and the more the workforce grows and gets back to normal we can't ignore that and I think the second is also perhaps some of these forces will end up being deployed to the north perhaps to the border perhaps beyond the border we don't know maybe they need a rest and there could be wider considerations at play here not a sprint, a marathon on all fronts let's do it rest the southern front of the southern front as in the Philadelphia axis because from what we understand there are some sort of deliberations between Israel and the US on setting up this I wouldn't say barrier perhaps it's not the accurate term but to make sure that there's some sort of control on what comes in and what goes out it goes both ways there on the Gaza-Egypt border I mean this is critical because if we look at the big picture this stage of the war is about destroying Hamas's capabilities its tunnels, its rockets, its ability to launch cross-border, mass-murder attacks it's all about eliminating those capabilities but what will that amount to if Hamas is able to rebuild its capabilities and that's where the Philadelphia Corridor question comes into Israel has to have control some sort of control of that area otherwise they're going to continue smuggling weapons from the Sinai Peninsula they both produce weapons domestically in Gaza and they smuggle weapons in from Egypt both of those things have to be targeted from years to come and Hamas cannot be allowed to rebuild most of its capabilities if these achievements are to be preserved that's the context for the Philadelphia discussion that's underway I failed to remember which guest was it but they did mention several weeks ago that until not so long ago in order to get a car into Gaza you had to divide it into pieces and bring it in and then assemble it there now trucks, cars are just moving through those different infrastructure that was set up by Hamas obviously something that is not sustainable in this respect as a side note Mr. Lapin an interesting report of them curious to get your take on that that Chinese weapons and masses are found in the Gaza Strip and I wouldn't say that the Chinese reaction to the situation came as a total surprise y yet there was some sort of a healthy relationship between Jerusalem and Beijing in recent years Right China has provided arms to many actors in the Middle East and some of those arms have gone through the Iranian arms smuggling network into the Gaza Strip it's not that China has armed Hamas so much as it has sold arms to Iran and some of those ended up as well as Russian made weapons as well It's like saying a Chinese chip was found in Gaza Exactly China's interest I think in the Middle East is for stability because it's the main source of its oil and it has relationships with every side here it's pretty agnostic when it comes to the Middle East it has relationships It's got major cooperation going on with Iran with Saudi Arabia it would want to have wider cooperation with Israel but that's not a possibility because of the wider Chinese American rivalry and the United States is not going to let its close allies move closer to China so that's the situation certainly the Chinese role in the region has to be monitored because I think the Chinese are looking to increase not only their economic footprint but also their political footprint their diplomatic clout Exactly and that should translate into a military future footprint as well we saw a base being built a logistics naval base in the UAE which infuriated the Americans and you know what just in hindsight circling back to all those tense sticking points between Jerusalem and Washington over the Chinese involvement here in Israel it all looks quite different at this point in time Right, we do want to head north now to I-2040's correspondent Zach Andrew south Zach is in the south I'm so used to seeing you up north Zach but now in a different arena there Zach as we've been discussing here in studio forces being taking out but the operation on the ground intensifies as we speak Yeah, the IDF today says with a new release of data that there has been a precipitous drop in the amount of rocket launches that have come out of the Gaza Strip that the control over the northern Gaza Strip has improved the security situation for the IDF the southern Gaza Strip however and Conyunus is now the challenge the the countdown to the new year is also bringing with it a few other countdowns as well the countdown to finding Sinwar and attempting to release the remaining hostages finding them as well it does appear that it's really in the IDF mindset only a matter of time until they accomplish those milestones but it does pose some very specific challenges they have released more information about the tunnel network underneath Conyunus some of these tunnels are 20 meters deep below the ground the conventional weapons inside the arsenal some of the missiles and bombs don't reach that deep they do but it would cause immense damage and the collateral damage inside this densely populated city would be tremendous so to be able to root out this Hamas network underneath the tunnels the dogs and the drones that have been going in and attempting to map this tunnel network the passageways it only gets you information the next step is going to be human personnel inside this tunnel network attempting to root out Hamas and that will be one of the last giant tremendous challenges yes absolutely and the IDF spokesperson clarifying this evening after much public discourse for any need underground there is a very coherent aerial backing this aerial umbrella as he put it to the forces underground there the fight continues Zach Ender's I-24 news correspondent down south with the I-24 news team thank you very much for this Zach and from south we're heading north now I-24 news senior correspondent Guy Azriel with the I-24 news team of course on the israel but on border Guy another intense day another day of war up in the north albeit perhaps tiny less eventful than the previous days no flirting with the war threshold no doubt about that Less than two hours to midnight in the new years not a festive atmosphere here at all unless you're into the sound of those Israeli fighter jets that keep flying over our heads and confirmation just moments ago from the IDF that those same aircrafts have intercepted an aerial threat that came from the east that was under surveillance and did not cross into Israeli territory but less than two hours ago two other drones from Syria actually have penetrated Israeli territory also were intercepted by Israeli fighter jets a third drone did not cross and therefore was not intercepted earlier today we also saw two anti-tank missiles fired towards an IDF post near the Lebanon border no injuries in that case and the IDF has responded with artillery we also saw several instances where the IDF struck Hezbollah squads with helicopters and with tanks so quite a lot of activity today also another strike this morning in a village of Ramya where Hezbollah operatives were launching rockets several days ago from so quite a lot happening in the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was very clear this morning in the cabinet sorry in the government meeting saying that we will restore the calm here in the north be it by diplomatic or military means if needed yes well at this point in time no end in sight unfortunately I-24 new senior correspondent guys real thank you very much Mr. Yakov Lapin Mr. Lapin Good riddance 2023 2024 is beginning in an hour and a half just a bit over an hour and a half from now here in Israel Prime Minister promising blood, sweat and tears last night long long months of war and this is only when talking about the south right we are unfortunately going to be facing many months of conflict that is the phase that we are in the collapse through us in the collapse of many delusions the delusions that we could contain our enemies that we could set up robust perimeter defenses all those things are now clearly have collapsed as concepts and yeah the question of whether months of war will be limited to the south or whether they will expand north and whether Hezbollah and Lebanon become the primary war arena have been hovering over this situation from October 7th as time goes by we are seeing a gradual intensification of the hostilities in the north for me it's difficult to see how this can be resolved peacefully because Israel is going to be demanding a buffer zone and Hezbollah is not going to give Israel that buffer zone and so all of these diplomatic negotiations seem to be sort of running in circles trying to square a circle and it's very difficult I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt maybe they'll pull off a miracle but there's such a clear collision course and it's not only a buffer zone Hezbollah's whole center of gravity is southern Lebanon it has 200 chiite villages and it's main base of operations bunkers are there, there are also tunnels not like in Gaza but there are and rockets and mortar shells it's all there and the intent is not going to change if we've learned anything in the past year is that we need to assess the enemy not not according to the stated intentions or the perceived quite but according to abilities and in terms of abilities Hezbollah is more than capable 100% and also if we look at Hezbollah's actions over the past two years they have been trying to drag Israel into some kind of conflict they sent a bomber in March sorry and that created a mass casualty in city and we have been talking about those poking tents and we didn't even say a word about the Houthis but we will fortunately safely assume that we will continue to talk about all of this next year as well Mr. Yakov Lapin thank you very much for joining us let's hope for a better year and we want to end this broadcast by focusing on what counts on the people the freed zooming in into the unbelievable tale of the broad-aged family Avichai was fighting off terrorists on October 7th only to find out that his wife Agaranda three children been kidnapped into Gaza along with their neighbor's daughter four-year-old of Vigaili Dan her parents were murdered after 51 days in Hamas captivity they were all reunited now for the first time there they managed to remain sane how the kids learned to cry silently and how Avigail became a family member in an instant a very powerful piece you have to watch take a look when you look at them like that do you still see the signs remains of Gaza of October 7th yes yes it was a war of survival I was always thinking about when will be the next time your children will get food when the sun will rise there will be some light in the room and you won't be in complete darkness every day you think you've reached the bottom of hell there's no getting lower but one day after another you find out there's another step and you take one more step down to hell and you carry your children together with you on your back 51 days they were in hell Hagar with her three children 10-year-old Ofri 8-year-old Yuval 4-year-old Aurea and the one who in captivity became Hagar's fourth daughter Avigaili Dan also only four years old Avigai their father fought for the family that was kidnapped from their home while he was out fighting with the Kubotsa security squad in the morning when it all started Avigai called me to come and lock the door after him he looked through the door's people to see that there was no terrorists or anything like that I saw that he noticed something he saw Avigai through the people he ran after her and shouted Gully, Gully, stop she didn't stop so he had to grab her and bring her over to me I immediately locked the door after him she was covered in blood not hers, but her parents I hugged her, wrapped her tried to clean her up she said her older brother said that the mom and dad were dead and that she had to run away and so she did I didn't realize the magnitude of the events when the terrorists entered her home four hours later and what happened when they entered I asked the children to cover themselves with blankets they covered themselves I turned off the light and hid there's a space between the door of the safe room and the closet I hid there and held the door as much as I could I'm not particularly strong in the end they managed to get in there were at least 15 terrorists inside the house and when they came in and turned on the light in the safe room I started screaming they're just kids, don't do anything to them and then the children took off their blankets and started crying and screaming they took us in my car the five of us with three other terrorists two sitting in the front one sitting in the back the way we entered Gaza it was one big show for them they hung the horn of the car opened the car doors hit me, pulled my hair and oh free the terrorists kept grabbing her by the shirt to show everyone what a price he had grabbed it was scary scary this is a moment when you lose control you lose the protection everything you've created for your children those minutes are the minutes that broke everything just moments of horror when you were in Gaza what did you think happened to everyone? I don't know sometimes I thought I wouldn't see you again sometimes I thought I wouldn't see Rodney anymore I'll tell you what I was thinking in the car I thought they were going to kill us in the car really? yes because they had guns it was stressful we were told to be quiet I thought they were going to kill us all in the car instead of at home what do you think after so much time and past and you still stayed there? that we'll never return and that we'll have to live in Gaza that's really what I thought how do you survive there? so it turns out that the body and mind are able to create so many mechanisms of survival that you don't feel anything you don't get sick your mind is empty you're not hungry, you don't smell you just survive for these four little children you're not crying how can I cry? I have four little children that I have to look after that I have to protect in this hell how did you spend your day there? what did it look like? so in the first house we were in we had two notebooks and unsharpened pencils and we messed around with that trying to sharpen them and draw or play we played a lot of country, city me and the big ones and the time passed slowly the days never ended in the second house we were in I asked them if they had playing cards so they brought me cards and also some sort of imitation of Taki and we would spend most of the day playing card games lots of talking lots and lots of talking and whispers because it was forbidden it was forbidden to speak loudly they didn't want the neighbors to hear us there might be a snitch who would report that there was Israelis in the house it was forbidden to cry and it was forbidden to laugh and it was forbidden to shout obviously how do you deal with not being allowed to cry? wow Afri learned to cry quietly UV, it was hard for him to learn to cry quietly but he eventually succeeded once it was hard you can't teach a 4 year old kid to cry quietly we celebrated Ohri's 10th birthday there and overnight she turned 20 she was my partner she was the angel that watched over me in this whole story and UV, who was my sensitive boy who always needed me the most was suddenly a man he suddenly saw that I had not one for your child to take care of but two of them and he knew how to help me with that and with Oriya and Abigai it was difficult it was very difficult Oriya is my baby and now I had another little girl who went through hell when you eat, you eat a little so that you can leave most of it for them because you have no other choice they're hungry there was great hunger they were starving when I begged for food they told me our children eat only pita a day as well so your children will only eat a pita a day yeah, for 24 hours this is what each one of us could eat I don't wish any mother, wherever she is to be in a situation where she begs for food to give her children y she said same as that of Abigai so then she said that day was Abigai's birthday November 24th and she kept saying I'm still 3 years old I'll celebrate my 4th birthday when I return home we drove in the Red Cross' car and when we arrived I met Hen Goldstein and her children and Hen, when she saw me she shouted to me Cuando ella me ve, ella me salió. ¡Gar, Avihay está esperando por ti! He escuchado en la radio. El abdicteo que fue conmigo en el principio, fue con ella en el final, y ella nos dijo. Eso es lo que encontré. Avihay fue vivo. Todas las barrieras se bajaron, y la piedra empezó a caer. Y la verdad es que lo que nos abrió en Israel, fue algo que realmente no me esperaba. Durante 51 días en la captividad, yo estaba segura de que se nos olvidara. Era simplemente increíble. Todo el mundo que viene juntos, de ciudadanos que no me conocen, a los doctores y a los centros médicos, personas que realmente nos dieron a nosotros desde el fondo de sus corazones. Yo no puedo creer que cuatro semanas han pasado. He estado aquí cuatro semanas, y no han pasado. Hay 129 casajos, que son un número astronomical. No estamos aquí. En el final, estamos suficientes. Hacemos nuestra familia. Es un proceso largo, pero estará bien. Vamos a trabajar, vamos a hacer todo, para que la gracia se vuelva. Para que la seguridad se vuelva. No hay otra opción. ¡Mamá! ¡Qué chico! Nos estamos concluyendo este año horrible. Definitivamente un buen día. Nos vemos luego aquí, con algunos de los casajos de la familia de los proyectos. Muchos de ellos, muchos de ellos, aún siendo captados en la caza, para 86 días ahora y se encuentra. Como el nuevo año comienza, podemos only hope que todo lo que es necesario haya sido hecho, para que todos los casajos vuelvan a ser hecho, tan pronto como posible. Y vamos a hacer esperanza que este nuevo año llevará algunos felices, algunos buenos, el poder de los buenos podríamos estar bombardeados con los buenos este año. Y vamos a hacer esperanza que en el topo de todo podemos mantener y sostener el sentido de la unidad, esta resiliencia y esta fuerza de nuestra fuerza. Muchas gracias por ver un nuevo año feliz y bueno. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .