 That what's up? What's up to the YouTube viewership? Please hit the like button please comment on what you want to see on the show. I appreciate y'all checking me out This is the needed podcast Episode 10 is 10 episodes in I'm here with my man real goat my man big gene. What's up, man? How are you feeling? How you make it out? I don't feel good man. I think someone took you taking my spot I mean that's how it goes man Yeah, and also obviously we here with big gene, but we also here on the conference call is my man Skimbo the new goal. I told y'all last year he was a new goal But then after I said that he kind of fell off a little bit He kind of got popped a couple times and then this year he popped up again So Mike, how are you feeling? How do you feel after winning the third belt? Talk about that? Yeah, I feel good. I mean I took the loss in the club series. I had some thinking to do Realized I lost a lot of money and decided there was three, you know tournaments left And I got to take advantage of those and I walked in and You know me, you know me better than anyone I go in there feel like I'm not as prepared as I should be by end of Being the most prepared dudes there and end up getting the win Yeah, it kind of goes to me man You got to remember and I tell people this a lot and I told him my training camp genius But they asked me what's the biggest advice you can give somebody that starts playing man Yeah, these guys really ain't that good. No matter how much skimbo he worried. I'm not ready I'm just dead and third you got real like everybody else is in the same boat Not everybody's all the way prepared like you think you need to be really, you know That's been very true since since I play no to it 90% of 90 95% of people there Nobody's really that good That's kind of like what happened like I was over prepared. I was over prepared that I was watching some people play And I'm just like so like I'm a lot better than everyone. I didn't think I would be you know Just kind of how I went Talk about what changed like after you lost New England like what was the biggest thing you had to focus on and change? Not only your game, but also your attitude and your drive. What did that? Well, yeah, you know, like I said the club series most important. I was pretty upset You know me I start thinking oh, I need to go get a real job You know, you know all that stuff went through my head But then I was just like, you know what like real setters It was just like you decided to take a year off like you're not just gonna stop now You need to just get after it and just hop back on so I felt sorry for yourself. Oh, yeah I was like, yeah, so I got on regs like every day and played a bunch of regs and you know what really enjoyed I really enjoyed regs. I I love like I know a lot of people found this later But I felt like I was the first one to see like Tyree wasn't 99 speed He's a hundred speed and it's just like, you know, it's just fun playing regs and getting to use Conley Like that was you remember my love for Conley from two years ago. I love I've always loved Chris Conley and and Patrick my homes I mean, it was fun getting on regs and you know grinding that end up getting the dub All right Now one thing about the man classic is it's way different than most of the tournaments Even the man classic last year was way different and that instead of a structure Obviously it changed a lot and just became one tournament where it's just two days You get the rock out. There's really no adjusting There's really no I got a game playing for somebody you're pretty much just doing the heap And whoever comes out on top talk about the difference from that compared to what we're used to with the You know, you got a week off now you get flowing out a month later. You prepare the game changes What's the difference between that and the man classic where it's just two days to play Well, yeah, man classic you got to be really On top of your game like I kind of like it like, you know, you know how I was like you've been in my hotel when I'm watching Games and how I'm going to study and how I'm going to play, right? You see me do that Well, it's like when I'm at those tournaments and I'm not playing like I'm out there Like I see how the bracket's going to be and it's like it's like how fast can you adjust in your head? You're not going to be able to go and get on an xbox Like you got to see what someone's doing and tell yourself how you're going to play that game before you play it And then if that doesn't work, you got free so like master gamer You know how I am about lurking one side like first master gamer I was like am I going to lurk the trip side? Am I going to lurk the running back side because he likes to throw it over there I was like so I was just like, you know what we'll start off the trip side and it doesn't go good Like, you know, that's just the difference You really have to be on top of your game in preparation like that on the spot You can't rely on your boys to help you like AMB and all that those crews like, you know They all get together it's like nah Like you got to you got to figure out how to do it right now Like you're not going to have a day or a week to prepare and you know, I really like that I feel like that's why, you know, mo's a good player and those guys they're really good at that like on the fly adjustments Yeah, and seeing that's why I tell you most of the tournaments, you know, 10 years ago and everything You there for a day players bow you there you do your thing and you do the next day That's it. What were some of the challenges you faced playing that type of mode because me myself I like give me a week to prepare for this guy. Give me a day to prepare for this guy I was never good at let's play 20 games in a row or something like that. I like the way What skimbo had to go through. I like the way it was 10 years ago. I love that way. I love Because I don't feel as though a lot of people could adjust as fast as me when I was playing or whatever So I loved it. I actually loved it. I hate it actually like he would look at he would look at Like he said master he would look at his game as he had to do I hate it looking at games or whatever because every time I look at somebody game I'll get a feel of what I have to do and it'll be wrong. So I just like to Like the freestyle so in the middle of the game and do what I got to do But I love that over the playing the week and preparing and the standard third or whatever It's just me or whatever me because I'm from that era or whatever But it made me get a whole new respect for skimbo seeing what he went through when he won a tournament Because he did it when he's doing it from that air and he did it from that tournament Like we used to do it from back in the day and it was impressive Yeah, for sure. I mean He did last year in the man class at the first tournament in New York, you know And that was the one he probably panicked for the most. I don't know how to play. I suck. Blah. Blah. I don't have anything Yeah, that was that was crazy that tournament. We were all felt unprepared for that tournament Yeah, but that's how he always is really skimbo is uh, he don't never had to He never think I'm gonna win this game. He I'm gonna win this tournament easy on the best in the world here That you always worried about the wildest thing man. He was worried about Tyree kill shoot Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah I was definitely because I played a couple pickup games for some money before that tournament got blurred and like two of them I was getting like cover two bombs hit on me that I didn't even know existed and I go on the tournament I'm thinking that like everyone knows about I realized those two people are like the only ones that even knew about the cover Two bombs so like like I always said like I was just preparing that everyone knew about like no one knew about it And like jokie even said it to me He's like you're the you're the reason why a little man made the final and I was like, what were you talking about? He goes when you were talking about those bombs, we didn't know about it We went to the hotel that night and found it and he did it three times versus blocky for two touchdowns On two of them for touchdowns. Yeah, and if he didn't have those bombs that you were talking about he wouldn't have been in the final Yeah, for sure. That was definitely game season Yeah, he started up like told me like They said they found it another one and he used it and they said if it wasn't for I guess me saying it My dumb ass, you know, he wouldn't have been the finals But if he would have popped me, I would have been a dumb ass But maybe that's the match if I rather would have had And that goes back into you assuming that everybody's That prepared, you know, he thought oh, it's a bomb out here. EMB knows about it Let me go tell him and then him saying they didn't even know about it They had no I they had no idea about it, too That's that's ghost fault. He playing too much for tonight. He's supposed to be the offense of guru and EMB And he's not locked in He's not finding any bombs and you know, that's what happened ghost lost to a janitor actually Seriously, yeah janitor. He was like on a lunch break and came and played the tournament beat Beat ghost and joke too. Joke lost to the male man Yeah, that's who they lost to out there now, but that's what but and you said you learned these bombs playing little pickup games and stuff like that And that all entails to you being so secretive Nobody know what skimba gonna do and then everybody else willing to just Show me everything donate everything and Yeah, I mean that's true. I mean like I learned how to block the nickel blitz You know, like from playing pickup games I mean, you know a lot of people giving me like looks for $50 and I'll lose a couple hundred dollars just to make You know 25,000 obviously Must be nice to be rich man Me I need all my $50 Clocking I need all of that But I mean that's an advantage, but I want to talk about the demand classic the the venue You mean obviously security was probably crazy and how you think it was all handled an event like this How EA handled themselves and what you like from the event and what you didn't like from the event Are you talking to me? Yes, sir Uh Well, you know what I did love I actually love the security. They were all there on the spot Something that did trip me out though Just because what happened like, you know, being in the elevator going up to it. There was no security Um, because you remember you you go and you go into the elevator then you go up Then once you're up on that third level, it was bad security But what's to say like like someone doesn't see that and they're waiting, you know Like right there like right when you go in this little like tunnel kind of you know, that's the I wish they had more security right there Honestly, that was like my only complaint was I wish they had more security right in that area going in Not at that third level because that was great like there were security people everywhere once you got right outside You know right outside where you go in obviously once you went in you felt safe But honestly it was like walking toward there. I still felt pretty sketched out to be honest Talking security wise after I won though, you know, obviously After winning, you know after what happened. I'm thinking maybe there's gonna be something else. I'm a target and and so they thought the same thing so They put me in a security guard card and they actually drove me and took me right to my room in my hotel So I did like that. Um Yeah, it was just one of those deals and uh Uh, what what else you asked me? Were you just talking about security or the whole term? It's just a whole just a whole tournament. I mean, right, right, right So something I really didn't like I'll talk about what like right we can always point that out better than what we did Um what I hated I hated this I hated this I didn't understand why I was getting emails about what time I played at midnight every night Like I know we're in vegas and stuff, but like, you know me. I don't want to have any kind of fun till it's over I'm trying to go bed at around 10 or 11. And um, I It's like middle of the night one o'clock and they're saying they sent out emails and they did it And it's like, you know, do I do I need to wake up at 7 a.m. Or do I not play till 3 p.m And I didn't I just did not like how they were. Um I did not like how we got emails at 12 o'clock at midnight I thought that's unprofessional to send out a major tournament at midnight anytime you send out any emails at midnight I think that's very unprofessional in my opinion Uh, let me see what else, uh, I felt I felt like they did the bracket. Maybe a little wrong I didn't know what the seating were based. I heard it was supposed to be off last year But you saw carrier was the number one seed which you know, there's a lot of people that were ahead of him last year So maybe that's how they did it. Maybe that's not how they did it But someone said that's how they did it, but I doubt they did so they can do their own thing on that one I'm not going to get too upset about that What I liked about the tournament I liked I just um What did I like I liked a lot? I liked how you had your own space really you had your own tv Well, the venue there is it's pretty fabulous, you know, it's pretty Yeah, yeah Like I said, maybe if it was like in a newer era honestly But that venue for where it's at that is a great venue and then you have the little theater room where you play and you got a bunch sitting down You know Yeah, I mean that's pretty much about it honestly, I mean Yeah, I mean as far as the bracket and as far as you know telling you when to play I mean, that's just that's not even mad and that's esports in general That's organization in general, you know, that's why the people are put in charge That's why the people have the job to do things like that and that really has nothing to do with man It has to do with numbers right has to do organization skills Right, let me pick up on that. We've said this many times like we are always going to complain about the game Right. We'll always complain about it. We're always going to find broken stuff We're always talk about and that's what makes mad and mad. We talk about jetpack and we talk about rocket catch And you know, we that's something we look back on it's like it's in the game But there's so much stuff that could get right that has nothing to do about gameplay something like we can fix And that's what I'm complaining. I'm not even talking about the game. See we're talking about complaining I'm not even complaining about the game a phone bowl a drop pick. I'm talking about Just I don't know leadership's the right word, but just more structured and we're talking about if we're just on top of our game You know, that stuff's taken care of at a good time. So yeah, that's funny. You brought that up That's exactly how I feel a lot of the times with the mcs Yeah, I feel like it's that part's not that difficult You know, I mean, that's why people are put in position. That's why they have their jobs because they're good at esports They've been in this before, you know, they've been through tournaments They've been through regimen where they have to get this right for bigger games They're just that in the third and for mad and it's really not that hard gene What's some of the experience you've had with bad tournament directors or good tournament directors? Um Good tournament directors is Very hard to come out. It has to be harder than Do we think it is because it's it rarely happens or whatever, but when it happens, it's it's amazing uh I don't know. It seems like The bad it seems like the bad tournament directors they They get offended by what we tell them. Mm-hmm Because it seems like it's common sense to us or whatever and then they get in their feelings About why what are you doing this? What are you doing that this and a third or whatever? And then they just really At first they try to listen and then they like I could care less about your feelings I'm gonna do what I want to do and y'all just gonna play the game and I don't know it to me. It's like The majority that people is gonna put up with it So it's like If the majority people gonna put up with it, whatever I understand I'm saying screw everybody feelings because y'all gonna still play the game. I guess it has to be like a Uh, uh, majority of people that's like I'm not putting up with this or whatever and and I don't think too many people have that Even if it did even if me skimbo problem joke everybody said we not playing the next Yeah So it's like it's like either y'all gonna deal with it or not So it's it's a hard fight. It really is I wanted to work with actually EA and do everything And I don't think they they too much care about the way it's ran. They just care about how many people playing that Yeah, you know, like I talk about like what makes stuff e-sports like if you really look at it If the money wasn't there, I don't know if this e-sport would even be here Honestly because the money is the only thing that's keeping us around I think at this point I mean to be told if you have a full-time job and they had the dates posted for over months that you were going to california And then a month less than a month before they say actually you're supposed to be in vegas for a week And then if you went you're going to california And I've had about three people with full-time jobs hit me up. Just just they can't believe it And I'm in a position where obviously I played madden so that's not gonna affect me But like honestly being a full-time madden player is just not it right now I mean, it's it's just really not it if you're not a top five player You're not getting paid probably over $30,000. That's exactly that's exactly what I told you It's like listen listen all jokes aside I would love to play this 10 12 hours a day and not work But I just don't see a reason to do it. It's just like why would I put myself in that position or whatever to do it when I could work and make money Now if the money if the money was way bigger and like maybe the top 10 or 15 were making 30,000 That's that's that's it should be more than that they should be more than that honestly But that's different and so you gotta think about smart people would be like see I don't think I'm smart The only reason I'm doing this because I had success one year and I had a lot of it But a lot of those people that've been on the verge I mean they got to keep their jobs, you know because you can be a drop pick You could be a drop pick a fumble from not making any money Yeah And if you took the whole year off you made no money that year So you should have a drop so those people that do have a job that as soon as they're done working They go play the game for five or six hours and then they go to bed That's their repeat go to work play mad at repeat because they still want to get this money and be involved And they've tried to make it work like me. I'm a school teacher. I'm allowed if well I was going to be and this is how it works If you're a school teacher every year you're allowed to have three days off and that's it And you have three days personals and you have like five sick days Yeah, I I wouldn't be a teacher because I would have been fired because my three days would have been up for one of them for new england Three of them reform for vegas and then say I didn't go to new england I'm going to vegas again for three days and then I'm going to california for some days And then I'm going you know what I mean, but the thing that upsets me is you know If if they just put out the freaking schedule and let us know you could like schedule around and go to your boss That'd be one thing but then the tell your boss. Hey, you know, I'm doing that term I told you but yeah, I don't know where they're just telling me in three weeks. I'm going to vegas I'm sorry. I know I'm supposed to be here for that meeting. However, and then he's in like No, you're gonna have to choose and you're thinking well, this is where it gets weird because the club championships the biggest tournament So you could win a hundred thousand dollars and that's kind of life changing in a way But however, the chances of you winning that are very slim So what do you do? Do you go to vegas or do you keep your full-time job? Hey, you obviously you gotta keep your full time job. You gotta take your job And if ea which is not spring stuff on it's the last second It's like it's become a joke at this point honestly because at first they've been doing this for three or four years now And they're still doing this to us at first it was whatever the second year. Okay, we'll get better We're the third and fourth year and they're doing it worse than they did in the beginning Just springing stuff on us like this and I'm sure they can say We have stuff too going on and like I said at this point It's like, you know, it's bad when people aren't even complaining. They just laugh and roll it off now That's that's that's the mess up that we've been dealing with All right now This is what I tell you I want to talk more about this in depth in a little bit But first I want to get into a couple of these games because there's a lot of things I mean we talk about all the time that I want to talk about Further depth But I want to get into some of these games that you played and want to get your thoughts on how they played how you played You know and what you were thinking and probably your two toughest games Obviously, I want to talk about your ice game first because that was when you talked about forever That's been it was your toughest game The best opportunity for you to lose and then we'll talk about a little man game But first I want to talk about the ice game and I have it up right now right in the beginning of this like Where am I? I'm at yeah, I'm right in the beginning. I'm ready to play this thing. You got it Because we could talk about ea and I probably went in too much detail. We're talking about the classic, but you know when I get going about this stuff Oh, we will trust me. It's on it's on the docket I definitely have a lot of comments myself because It's a little easier when you step the way and you're watching it and it doesn't pertain to you I feel like you can be a little more Objective and you will also see what's going on. Let's see what people are going through Yeah, because like players players were kind of just in the moment dealing with it If you're on the outside and you're like kind of like all right I'm falling back from the scene at the moment I get to see these other guys do it then you really like are you serious like this is really happening like what the hell That's pretty well. Yeah But let me know you get this game up might so we go watch this and talk about Is it in your there's in your stream right now? I do you want to do that? Yeah Wait, how am I supposed to look at it? No, I mean you can look in the stream. It's just gonna be delayed a little bit I'm gonna just well I don't know. I don't understand how else I would look at it at the same time as y'all No, I thought you just want to pull it up and pull it up on your ipad. Are you on your phone or you're on your laptop? Oh, okay Oh wait, we're not gonna watch the whole game. Why don't we go watch parts different things where you thought were important You know, I don't need to watch the whole game. I know what happens. You run past sale and And then curl flat Hey, uh, uh, let me let me go on youtube real quick That's how you just quick snap. Jeez quick snap curl flat and left the curl route on the left It's professional work right there But this is what we said about ice man one. He was good last year Lost to you and a champion in He's a hundred times better than I'm saying but Hey, who knows who he could have matched up but he could have made a further run You know, that's what I'm saying both in club series last year As travis kelsie just moths the hell out of his user for a touchdown And I'll tell you this Skimbo at he old travis kelsie a lot because Yes, he He doesn't he doesn't throw to travis kelsie if you watch him run bunch travis kelsie blocks every play Yes, and then he just gives him a little bone there in the red zone. Yes So so what's crazy though? Like I really never really forced that corner out You know, we always want to do a low point to a drag Well, if you watch how these other games were playing these rocket catching was just getting Unreal like some of these aggressive catches. I was playing like a pico game and I was just like, all right I'm gonna force it and I know it's travis kelsie comes down with it like seven out of ten times So then like I so then I started forcing it and I'm working He was blocking and he was catching crazy guy. He was huge man, but he blocked for skimbo every play Yeah, he was huge man. Yeah, what what time do you all that? I'm at One two minutes That's what I'm at two minutes. You want defense talk about the decision? And when did we transfer straight to nickel normal as opposed to three three five odd or a dollar? Honestly, this is why I Well, god, we can't talk about the mcs, right? Well, we well don't worry about it, but Well, well, so I get home and uh, I didn't I can't find one play regs So I go and play draft champions, right? Yeah, so I got a nickel normal playbook three three five odd is hard to get And they had a pat so I came out there and I was like, you know what? I kind of like how this defense is playing right now. I kind of like what the zones are doing I kind of like the blitz. I kind of like where I'm standing I'm like, okay, so then I go into regs and I run it and it's just it's a thousand times better in regs And it's draft champion. Yeah, so that's just kind of when I hopped on the nickel normal train It was just uh, just playing draft champions just playing just playing the game, right? And just getting getting reps in and that's how it kind of came about me running nickel For sure. Okay. You want two minutes? Yeah, I got three ten left in the game or in first quarter three ten. Jesus Where you at? I was at four something. I'm at 303 now. I'm about to just play. Yeah, I'm at 303. Yeah in the game Yeah, I'm pressing play. Yeah, I'm playing All right, so you went the nickel normal Yeah, so we just covered two pretty much every play Yeah, like this is a fill out drive. It's kind of sure I just want to see I don't want to give up any bombs and I want to see how patient he is I I really want to see because right now I'm giving up the dump downs probably this whole drive I don't want to get greedy and give up a touchdown. I want to see if If he's willing to take his tight in route every time like, you know, it's just it's a long game I want to see if he'll make a mistake because he's down seven trying to get it back quick or not And uh, that's just kind of how this was that he all game really took his underneath stuff That was really impressive. Yeah, for sure. And that that's to me That's what's always made somebody good and bunch the ability to throw that little Travis kelsie route and get 10 yards Or something like that rather than try to force there's the post route or post the corner route, you know And that's that's what's always that's what I thought made skimble That much better in man 17 Beginning of the year and the beginning or the middle of the year. He was just z spot down the field I'm looking 100 yards down the field. I'm trying to just go to z spot route. But then once he Once he went to where he just do the flat route do the flat route got his six yard seven yards It really opened up bunch to another level, you know And that's and it's crazy that skimble plays the way he does now Where Travis kelsie blocks every time because most these kids I see playing they use the hell out of the tight end And this is two years in a row where skimble really has not used this tight end really at all And it's pretty much the biggest difference between him and that was a crazy catch by Connolly there to Yeah, I was definitely I was definitely upset right there because I went straight there I had his zone there was two people on one and he ended up coming down with the ball I I you know, I think that was a that was obviously a big play because I run the same defense and maybe home to three But now we're at a tight game seven seven Yeah, for sure It's definitely any time you get a any time you get a touchdown catch when you're already like around the 10-yard liner and that's a big play whether it's first down third down whatever it may be Yeah, I mean ice ice played really good this game on offense for sure Yeah, I was gonna say about I mean Ice if he was anywhere else in the bracket could have made the final eight or the final four, you know, especially Based on how he played this game. Yeah, you know, so sometimes you just Yeah, then he played against like crush and crush blue a mountain group stage. Yeah Yeah Yes, so you never know I think that's really what separates a lot of the top players of people like that is how How can you put it together every game not just have a one game? You go on runs and put it in multiple games like this together and I think that's his next step Now he's at this like I think he really is like he shows he's at this elite level It's just how often can he maintain this level? That's where it comes down to for him Now you see the cover to every play pretty much and that's what I would assume if someone's running nickel blitz Yeah, you're pretty much just I say you just alternate between curl flat and pass out pretty much It depends if you can stop that Oh, I don't want to throw in everything Yeah, I There's definitely a process to it. There's this the streak down the middle that Won me $25,000 was a and you you've been playing versus me forever. How how long have I thrown that? I want to show the people with W W did against us and really box this Because I'm a lot smarter than these little kids. I don't care about this year. That's you've been the same. It's been the same offense for years Like that last year because the zones are crazy and it was hard You know what I mean? You can move the safety right next to the tight end and he would cover the whole day You really hanging on one game you beat me? I just it was just a brilliant game plan. No, I'm gonna bring up to see now I didn't want to bring up this game. But now I'm gonna have to bring up this game. You're gonna say, you know, W He's really a genius. You know, this this is why I see I'm not I'll be honest I don't think I could ever win one of these where he won like eight games in a row because I told us about Ben I would wind up doing something stupid or I'd have a bad game There's no way for me to stay like this like locked in or I would go to the crowd start messing with somebody And joking with somebody and come into the next game and just just blow it You know, I don't have the patience to sit here. I'll say this about this game though Um, and kid pointed this out I always people put Tyreek in the slot. I always put Tyreek on The far outside on the bunch every time. Why? Because he's he you can't cross man them And you can't cross man walk the pat self post anyways, like that's just uh, you really can't cross man So that can be anybody It can be anyone and you can cross man and then I hit the wheel and that's another reason is for when I do that I could notice they're putting their cloth on a quarter that he's really going to get busy on that and uh But like yeah, you can't really cross man Tyreek Hill Like he'll go right by him on the cross man like a motion drag He'll just that 100 speed goes right by him and then you got that with the pat self So that's why I was always putting Tyreek there was for that and then the motion fade Yeah, see I mean I want to show you the box for a minute. You want to show me? Yeah, it's still the box for skimbo. It's still Yeah, there we go number two. I think I think what I'm thinking here is Since we're down the red zone, he's gonna put that safety in a quarter or whatever it's called. So I had a motion fade Try and he ended up manning it. It was what I thought it was but he ended up manning up The the motion so that wasn't there and I think I did that a couple more times and I believe I settle for three this drive Yeah, this one's on sometimes skimbo offense looks like the ugliest thing in the whole world Right, it's really just like a guessing game like it really is and then like if it's not there I'm willing to run away and just get rid of it. I don't want to take a sack Like it's like In pickup games when people see me play pickup games like I'll force something like I'll just do it just to see what's there But in games like this as soon as I see the reeds won't ever be there. I'm gone I'm just throwing away and let's go to the next town. Yeah, say to me. I would try some Yeah, I would I would try to run and spend with my homes or something and just yeah Yeah, I think right here. I'm looking for two streaks a slush streak a tight end streak trying to pass lead one of them And I saw none of them were there and I just said, yeah, we're gonna take our three I feel like this was it looks like a horrible little possession Once you got to the 20 yard line Yeah, it was just a guessing game going for the touchdown And I did guess right like I said, he just on the first down He did a a man up on Tyree kill and if he didn't man him up I would have had to pass lead to the outside for a touchdown and that was just good defense for him He hasn't done it all turn game and I don't think he I don't think he did it Any other part of the game? He just did it right there and I had to settle for three I'll tell you He came out in regular defense on the field goal If I watched any of these games, man, I'm at least coming out making it look like I'm trying to block it So hopefully maybe you try for a perfect kick or you coming out ready to defend And I do that a lot too when I'm playing regular games or whatever, but The way it is now where you try to force people to get a perfect They might mess around miss a kick because then master miss a kick versus you might have to change the game Oh my god, yeah, it definitely changed a lot at least because I I know as a man player How relaxing it is in a field goal when they come out in regular defense. It's like, oh, thank god I don't know. I've been I've been known to fix some field goals in my time I'm gonna do one fake now. No, no, everybody I've done multiple things I remember one when I told him don't do that dumb shit. I was like, why don't do that dumb shit? Don't do it. I told you I was yeah Jesus Here we go. Just no pressure all day. He's gonna find someone Everything was back though It's like I'm just trying to take away your first two reads and hopefully something comes in But nothing does and he hits his third read going across the middle It's just really the same stuff I'm just playing basic defense and seeing seeing if he'll try like that last play he got cute And you know if I had any heat at all in this drive would have been probably dead how I play and But uh, yeah, I'm just continue to play safe right here. I don't want to give up a bomb Like I haven't played ice and seen ice playing a long time So I needed to see what kind of player he was he wanted to force stuff, but Honestly, I was super impressed with him this game He reminded me of the little man finals just taking what was there And it's uh, it's really just a little stuff like that That separates you now this had to be west coast because of deep corner west coast 100% of the west coast And there's a bag. I think he was throwing a pick there I really do think he was I think he was on nothing was open like yeah, I'm about to say who is he throwing to I do that a lot sometimes, you know, I'm mr. Press a button just to hope I get hit and it goes on ground Right from madden two years ago. I believe I know I'm definitely mr. Press a button Hope this hits the ground and I get incomplete Yeah, but now you got three minutes and you have to score some points because you got to kick the ball off to start the second half Yeah, obviously when it's I think me and the problem are a lot of like and it's completely differently It's just like because he does it through running really and I do it through fasting right now I'm taking I'm taking all this clock And we're going into the second half. I did that in every one of my games I feel like just my clock management really really good the little man finals at the end of that half I think I did throw a pick though here So I guess this game was my worst one, but everything else like my clock management was on point So right now I'm just thinking I got to take away this whole entire Quarter going the second half either up three or up seven No, it's easier with the 42nd play clock. It changes the game No, oh, it's easy to clock with the 42nd. So yes, it seems to me right here if I'm doing that I'm almost automatically running the ball here just to show my two minute warning right here No, well Yeah I've always had a drag on the field. So I mean, I've been hitting my drags a lot. So that's pretty much my run Yeah, for sure. Honestly Yeah, but now you're like guaranteed to go to two more warning and now the pretty much the whole half is Yeah A base versus nickel normal is a waste. So I I'm not gonna waste the play just go to a minute warning have a second and 10 I don't think that's very smart. Honestly And here I put the controller down and with six seconds, I pick up the controller and watch ice go crazy I remember doing that still you scummed them I tried to act like I was about to snap it just watching he keeps looking at me And then like with six seconds, I just pick it up real quick Wow, let's come back and he looks he gets on his guy But I had to do it to him It's like I'm dead serious and like in competition. I had to like do some the eyes just because that's my Wow So I come out. I don't want to give up all my stuff here. I believe I call time out I think you know why I come out in this, right? No Yeah, I know what you're thinking I might do that too though Well, you know, uh, I had to see if he has sneak D. I guess right there, but you know why Yeah Why do that stuff right there? That's next level stuff. I ain't gonna get into it No, this was wild to me Yeah, I just always think you run the ball Oh, I have to 30 inches. I mean like I said only got three yards there, but you know, I'll take it No, you'll switch entire kill back to the other side. Yep See that's some stuff like that I wouldn't like See I think right here is where I throw the pick. I see Barry got really brought down in the box I feel like I can get this fade off on the motion fade. And yeah, I believe this is it And his corner did a little bump in I should have why caught that I should have why caught that cut in front But I mean that's Eric Berry, you know, he makes plays like that. That was unbelievable Yeah Just just seeing it and you see in other games. I played I got in touchdowns off all those But Barry just made a hell of a play really Yeah, but now he feels like shooting. I don't get my points right here. And then I get the ball I get a double-dipped chip I really don't understand how he did what he did on this play right here I've had no one do this to me coming into the tournament. He hits me with this and I'm very full He went out of bounds Okay, that was a super dot. Well, you got real frisky with Barry too. You brought him No, I've been putting him in the box the whole the whole game every all game I've been putting him in the box that I've never seen someone do a fade on that side I've seen the short side fade but I haven't seen the long side fade But this and but at the end of the day he went out of bounds and first and going to aid is tough Oh, well, that's why I said At the aid was and really that wasn't a bad game I feel like you you win inside the 10 on first and second down man That just determines your play call and where you go from there But then he got to the three yard line. So I'm like kind of panicking I'm like does he have a run a really good run player or something for like down here And then I think I'll second down and I've blown it up Yeah Yeah, so on third down I'm still playing the run I'm a man up a safety But I'm a man up Kelsey because I know how this route I saw I saw him a play I saw a play That he likes to throw the corner out with Kelsey in the red zone or hope run dive So my man up safety will be on Kelsey. So I'll stop the run and he'll be manned up on Kelsey What's coming into this play because I saw him play yesterday that literally the day before I watched him play and I saw that's what he did It's like that wasn't the difference like I had no video on that It's just I literally watched him play like one quarter and I noticed that's why he didn't I remembered it going into that right there Yeah, honestly, I man up people all the time down there just because not not for that reason But because like you said they play to run so good when they're manned up and more often than not The only reason I would man up Kelsey is just for that high ball. It's not that specific play But most of the time I'm man up the house. I receive right Exactly got a man up Kelsey because he's the only one to really be a threat down there And he didn't even really look at the field right there. He was throwing that pass no matter what really So you will force it this is where people lose games and more than new wing games, I think All right And I know that and I realized the situation I mean, obviously I want to force here and I never did because I only had one time out But I'm definitely looking for the place And there will be a situation that happens on third down. I realized something and we'll talk about it Yeah, I threw that even though I feel like if I maybe make a miss on a spin there And I do a juke on the corner because the cbo you couldn't click on it could be gone So I felt like just getting rid of my time out right there Oh, you have to because you can control what happens the next couple plays you can't stop the clock there any other way, you know Yeah I probably would brand it Oh, here comes the motion over. I haven't ran this all tournament looking for r1 or b But I had a gun shed it. I would have had b2 Would have definitely had the motion will but I got shed in so Here's a third and three if I throw an incompletion I'm probably punting so he gets the ball with three timeouts So this is when I go back to the regular offense looking for a drag or a post route right here Just making sure this has to be a first down play like don't worry about getting chunks Worry about getting a first down here. Yeah, so you don't get a ball back here Yeah, he has three timeouts and probably 20 20 25 seconds again field ball range. So this is a first down call right here Look at Kelsey just blocking a lot Yeah, Kelsey did good so now now I want to hurry it up. I'm looking maybe for I think I call curlfly here See if I catch them sleeping obviously No, for sure That are verticals I can't Yeah verticals he manned up the wheel nothing there don't want to throw a pig Well, I looked at it. I think I don't know if I did this I felt like I have one more play I can throw the corner out get out of bounds with one second kick a field goal And if he picks it I'm cool with it because he won't be in field ball range And if he runs it back, I don't get tackled. So right here. I'm just literally literally looking for the corner out But I got shed it Yeah I mean ice is feeling I'm feeling good about mice right now. Oh, yeah, definitely Anything gets get a ball. I definitely feel good So I've been playing safe this whole game And then finally I realized I'm down three. I've got to play A lot of people don't consider this aggressive aggressive But I consider this aggressive This is where I guess we're mixing in hardflats on the outside because he's he's shown me that he's willing to Take his dump down and get five six yards sometimes even more So right here, I know I'm down. It's not like I'm in control. He's in control So I want to put a little bit more pressure on him. So I'll be calling a couple more hardflats Yeah, I'm starting to think the way I watch bunch now that cloud flat Really, all it doesn't make them hold the ball a little bit longer. Really Yeah, doesn't cover anything on a bunch. So it doesn't come And he's shown me he doesn't run the mesh post a lot So I started lurking that left side and this is where he mixes it up even though and then he I don't see this is what's so precise. You've been doing good this whole game You've never called that play and he goes that this doesn't make sense to me Oh So now we're back to cloud flat because the second and 10 And you're cool with a third and five And cool with a third and six and then I'll do it again And then like I said, he mixes up his play call I just don't understand what he's thinking here. I mean he's been killing me with the tight end flat And he just he got cute literally two plays in a row Well, he didn't they didn't block right there if Kelsey blocked he had the wheel route to his running bag for a big play Yeah, but and still he's I mean he's not looking for a dumb down. He's looking for a big play for sure He calls this play and that's bad He got super bad Yeah, I mean he's forced to do something he doesn't want to do on a third and long and I got to stop and now I get ball I feel like that really cost him a game. He wanted to get you two plays in a row instead of just taking what was there all game Yeah You gotta know you're not gonna change defense up that much You know, I was gonna I was gonna get a little bit aggressive Like I said just a little bit aggressive put some hard flats out there on the outside That was literally and just take away some stuff But yeah, he made it easy on me. I mean he mixed up his play call for no reason She should not I mean now Now nice ice is like all shit. I just had the game This is like the emotions of a madden game that people don't understand like You were just feeling I mean literally three minutes ago You were feeling like the man now you're you know your heart beating a little more And he almost gave me up a touchdown. I'll tell you Eric Barry played out of his mind for him I mean a lot of safeties and regs I've thrown that against They break to the outside and that's a streak touchdown his Eric Barry went over there and just broke it up Was that a streak that play? Yeah, street with a wheel route Okay No, that's how me switch this cover. He ain't like that. He wants to cover three That cover three show that play And like that So now the game's tied. You are that's how I feel when I play. I'm like again I'm guaranteed to get right right now Just can't turn the ball right and the clock's gonna go by quick because the whole entire Excel clock glitch is going on right now. Just went to 20 seconds as soon as I snapped it. That's wild All right, dump down Like I said, when it comes to tournament time, I'm gonna take my dump down if it's there, you know I'm not gonna try to stretch it out like a leaderboard game. So I just wore out this little this little drag That's wild that it really excelled like this Mm-hmm I noticed that too. That's when I knew I needed seven here like I had to get seven here is how I Yeah, because really you don't really want to get one more possession really if he plays it right And I call it on tilt I called it on tilt. I call I called an on tilt fourth down this trip to Oh, one of your Did you know huddle? Just uh, I don't know just to settle for three. No, I didn't know huddle though Oh, I think yeah, and then you go in there and get three anyway. Jesus. Yeah, I got stuff Might have had the street there again. It's the whole entire guessing game. He's It's like It's like second time in a row. It's like, no, he's only manned up the motion guy two times Like He just went and doing two drags in the middle of the field got his yards and as soon as he got to the 20 But It's just because you don't have to lurk this the post route because it's the field shorter Yeah, skimbo has no baby dots, dude No Well, people don't really don't like making reads dude. He want to make his reads 40 yards down the field We'll find some uh-oh great. Did he rage in the huddle? No, he didn't rage in the huddle No, it was quick though. It was a quick. It was no thing We're going for it. Did you base him up here? This is the offline stuff This is offline. I want to show that come out Pat cell and audible to quick base obviously But I go into it like it sounds simple, right? He probably knew I was running base So I come out I show him that my three plays on screen are all pass plays So you got to look at that, but I'm calling base every time Yeah, that's that's the offline factor to it. You can't see that online But that's just kind of my thought process is why I didn't know huddle and I wanted to show him I was coming out maybe in a pass play, you know, I don't think it fooled him at all, but that's just part of that And I see it skimbo's wilder. So he looked on screen now gene when you played it was different because like They actually didn't have quick adjustments. You had to move on every player on defense So you had that way more of an idea and the skimbo skimbo just He'd be looking at all that shit. And there was your little low ball to your boy Yeah Yeah, I've got a first down You still ain't got the out of this Yeah, I know, right. That's all I know. I just and this is where I work on if kareem If kareem hunt wasn't kicking chicks on the ground Kareem might have fought for him. You know what I'm saying? This is a kareem hunt But this is like are you gonna have to show me you have that should have been And but I think a lot of times when I put my running back on aggressor, especially goal line They want to hug the offensive linemen and do that, you know Do the ziki or le or the levy on bell wait and be patient shit. Like just running the hole right there Yeah, and I got stalled out and I'm not gonna be on rage here. I'm gonna take my three Because it's just too hard And that's what I mean We had talked about this a couple weeks ago these kids with the cute little nickel defense against goal line That they have it that's better than our our goal It's better than goal line and they have it they have defense They have policy and it's not salary cap where the toss is better because those bad players are out there This is fast Those dudes out there on the toss will get out there and make a play So I know toss and record teams is not good out of goal line And this is and one thing about the goal line or the nickel does it does invite you to try a quarter base Like it doesn't look good. It looks like I could score on this. So you kind of wasting it. It's inviting. It's definitely it's definitely an invitation To my gangsta base See now, but now I I'm still feeling pretty good But this is a tough drive and then because you are worried about the clock You want to take the whole game, but you also need to score if I'm ice If I'm ice the game is over like this is in my mind This is over He is and he's thinking that he throws a nice little high point dot Are we sipping his water on you? Oh, man. Yeah, two more plays. We had the two minute warning Yeah, I'm not this was his last drive. He knew this was his last drive too. He's sipped the water on you He's rocking in the chair. He's feeling this is all false bravado. He's nervous. He's definitely nervous. Yes No, definitely I'm definitely throwing some hard flats out there now You know, it's just it's been a weird game Oh, because now you have to go for the gust though to make sure you had a ball back Yeah, I can't let him clock me. So I'm gonna let him get maybe a big play on me and then You know for some reason my dn on the draw and that's a good big play Yeah, just never see that animation ever and now I'm back in my cloud Yeah, that's a huge to lose because you're just like that's like what like I just said I just want to run to keep the clock running. I don't care if I get one or two yards I dance what I want to lose for though because that changes everything Now he's not clocking no more come on Now he's not sipping his water anymore I'm giving him the tight end route my dude makes a nice play, but You know, he ended up getting some trucks for about three extra yards three extra yards because of a truck Could be 311. It's a third and eight and like I said, I coming on that same defense and uh This was the story of the tournament for me. Honestly, I feel like uh, what's about to happen this play Story of the tournament Oh, yeah Oh, you ain't like that. You just back there married up for the fee It wasn't even after what he showed me what after he showed me But then this happens Overthrow over it was just it was the story of the game I'll say this because they're not in ice. I mean the biggest play of the game He has a dude open. He didn't have to high point it but my user is kind of airy So he doesn't it wasn't just like a high point overthrow is overthrow for pick I played I played prodigy his two picks he threw to me in the first half high points They weren't just over throws. They were for picks kid or uh, Dreamy his first pick of the game was a dude open. He high points overthrow for pick I just feel like every time I had a high point. They threw a high point overthrow I really did get a pick every time and I feel like that was the biggest story for me all tournament Yeah, shoot But you still gotta go get some yards here Yeah, I got two you got some shit. I had the post rally. I had to run away Oh, yeah, this was bad by me. So No, no, no that second down was it You know, I throw that read all the time and my dude did the give up animation I'm gonna click on insides so it made it look bad Yeah, but that's how I felt you just slanted B right there too. You didn't put them on Yeah, I wanted a quick snap them I wanted a quick snap them and I had it but So this right here, I definitely should have white cotton cut in front But he ended up hitting me in the mouth Yeah, that's just slanted to get the first down Slant and I was gonna spin. I didn't want to white catch it and then right here This is when I know the madden gods are on my side Talk about going for this because you didn't even think about it. Yeah, I was about to ask like what what made you not even think about it Go for it. Are we clicking pause or you want to go? Because I don't know why I would probably go for this. Yeah, what would you go for this? What would you think it? I'm thinking if I don't go for it, he gets one first down the game's over with a 42nd clock I just I don't know. He's played pretty I feel like he's played really good on offense this whole tournament Or this whole game versus His only his his pick was an overthrow dot, right? So I kind of felt like he was playing really good and I had to go for it. I really do feel like this was the game I feel like if I didn't get it whether I punt it or I didn't get it. I felt like the game was over You didn't feel as though you could stop him. You feel like he's playing good on offense Exactly and his adjustments right here. Well, I'm believable and I'll tell me when you click play No, but I feel like from here you could punt him to the 20 yard line. Yeah, that's what I'm saying Yeah, but he has three timeouts so he can still run his normal offense. He doesn't have to press at all man I'm in my mind. I'm putting or I'm running to the nine And I tell people I'm running to the nine, but they don't listen to me. They think I'm crazy But I feel like if you give him the ball to 30, that's borderline nine type areas No, he gets one first down game over. It's 42nd. Yeah. I'm like I'm running to the nine or I'm putting Y'all talking about just running backwards. Yeah running backwards to the nine Yeah, not not on a fourth and 10. Maybe like a fourth and 20 Because you can still get you can still And like I said before we click play this is like when I know the madden gods were on my side The cloud flat on a wheel route will bump him and ride him for 30 yards I had for some reason versus cloud flat My wheel route had a free release and then I end up mossing at very Like talk about why because you didn't do this all game really the wheel ride Like I say you do too phase you do you obviously pass sail, but why do we go streak wheel route? What was the thoughts in this? Uh Because he's been getting cute with a quarter over there and if he didn't he had a cloud flat I I know since the pass the wheel routes more open And so it was really just going to be if I didn't get it Then I didn't but if I thrown in completion, it's a punt That's kind of like the 50. So that's it really was just a high risk a high risk play You know it really was jump you're looking for what you hit earlier in the game was just a quick I'm looking for a streak. I'm looking for the streak first And then I'm and then once I see the cloud I look for the cloud first once I see the cloud I look for a streak it was backed by his user Then I'm looking for the the slant because I know the slant could give me 10 yards And then he puts his left safety in a hook zone. So that takes it away And then his user was there. So literally after that all I had was the wheel All right, I'm about to press play cut. Yeah. Go ahead. All right So I'm going to the wheel motion snap He got a free release. He got a free release Yeah, and I played this I've ran bunch for how long now and this year for all year And I know cloud flats are supposed to ride them down the field and like bump them in For some reason tyreek had a free release and I still don't understand why But I saw that and threw it immediately then is eric berry Like I don't know if he clicked on a one for a pick. I don't know if he went for the hiss I might have went for the rb strip right there. That's me personally if I'm that far away I mean our strip is really took the hit stick out of the game for me personally So I probably would have been jamming rb to try to go ahead and strip you right there I don't like he froze and got caught in between what he wanted. I mean, it's a big he's young It's a big moment. I mean, you know, you know what's going through his head right there, you know But now he's got a chance. I mean Shoot Oh, yeah, and then now we're back in the cloud. You know, we're just calling it safe defense again No bombs and let's see what he does Yeah, but this is the hardest thing to do is a I don't know And I started lurking the tide inside it looked like I was acting like I was taking away the drag And then I was coming back because I know it's like I was so Versus west coast I normally lurk on the opposite side for the mesh post, but he was playing I knew I had to lurk on that side For like the first down. He's definitely now I'm back on to be in west coast He jams or hasn't ran mesh post a lot No, he has he just No, he said his tide in routes over times. You don't even notice And then right there I go back in that defense and lurk on that side for it and I had it He ran mesh post and I would have had it. That's why through his drag Oh, don't worry. You're gonna get some help Oh, you got some help No, he got some help. It's in six people Oh, that's a dot. Oh, I like it Oh, they don't stop there Deserved that was deserved Absolutely. No, that's why I wasn't tripping. No, no, if you watch my reaction I didn't flip like some people like I might Because you can't trip because if you flip out, it's gonna stop you from playing good defense from here on out Exactly Oh, Jesus. Oh, no And this is where I tell you I told dubby or someone before the tournament the two dudes Murray and Lucas they're like 5 11. I felt like they got teabag on a lot on my user and it happened right there Did he lob that? Oh, he was well because he got scared. He panicked. He hit the wrong button Well, you didn't hit the wrong button. He got lurked in the middle But that was it. I felt like that was an easy read. I would have do it running back there and I'm not even good He just made a bad player there, but he's alive. I keep fighting step up Keep playing yeah for sure. I mean even though he caught those two crazy passes He's still in the toughest spot to score right now. Like dude, you know how it is being top players. You can't trip. You got just keep playing For sure. Everybody had the worst shit happen to him So we never went deep blue this this linebacker, huh? chill I'm just thinking about what I would be doing right now. I'm in the game situation Like I Me personally he'd be in deep blue and I'd say All I might do it right here. Now you say it, but it's a third and two. I don't know how aggressive I got here I might have put them in one right here, but the good thing about this game. No, I know I know I'm blitzing you can change your safety too Yeah, that was a die right there. I got you know, I mean shoot. This is like Yeah, this got me feeling like man bull right here. This is what I was living through shit And now I'm in my red zone. I'm in my red zone defense now. I mean, dude What play was this here kid, geez a streak with verticals and I'm talking about like his titan and the other guy Oh, I don't know, but very he had a very didn't get out there. I mean, he was Right I don't know if he catches it because my dudes are kind of there and then we might hit it out, but That's why I moved my There you go I say I wouldn't like bunch on the short side here because I want to hit that try to hit that fade again Really, and I'm very outside just because of what he just did I'm in your middle linebacker has to be nope. He's still in the red Now go put him in blue Sure, I don't I don't need to work. Oh, I'm not gonna even say what goes through my Jesus he's wild And I dive I dive I dive get him in bell. Wow This game was closer than I thought geez Yes, I know it was close, but I like really came down to the come down. Yeah No, I can't lie my Dean my Dean might be on Kelsey right here Now he got wild doing that I don't like it. I think you're if I'm on offense, you're getting Kelsey like four times Why wouldn't you that's not? And that's the game Geez Good game for the little the little skimbo Yep, that's my son the potty mouth skimbo. He's got hit the tanning bed, but that's my son Yeah, he won't be on the boat all day. You know, he only did like the lavish lifestyle of the skim, I'm saying Yeah, I'm going to fly him down here for the summer baby steps Baby steps for the for the little skim, man, but like I said a thousand times that was your toughest game Absolutely It really was because of an overthrow open pick right to bear. I mean I mean, he would have had it it still clocking, right? There was like two minutes that he would have gone to the two minute warning at the 50 and I think I mean And I mean it just that was the story of the tournament I've had I had like five picks in my last four games all on high points All right, put this little man game on obviously because the stream died We count and got it at I'm at 248 on the clock. It's he just scored again to tie the game You got that game. That's crazy. Yeah, I'm already here I'm play they're talking to me right now and we're like Wait, I'm about Uh, I'm talking about on stream. They're The guy was talking to me. I'll see you. I'm at like one For 151 something. It's like he just kicked an extra point. Oh, wait. You're on 150 on a little man game Yeah, he's kicking extra point. I see the extra point going through the crossbar Okay, yeah, I'm here. All right. I'm pressing for Yeah So obviously this is when the stream went down which we're not going to talk about Uh stream going down because that could happen to anybody it could happen to you know, whatever it may be God willing this it was rough especially for what I you know And the way my life has been the last four months or whatever what I think when shit like that happens That was bad. And uh, but you know the stream went out to anything that could happen to anybody, you know The superbowl. Yeah, the lights went out in the stadium. So you never know what could really happen So but this is after but we like I said, he did throw a pick already and at home you did not know I didn't know and I had This is I was in vegas and this is once I like when my god once he'd be joining I was all right He went with the tournament So I went down there So I'm like a block away and this shit went off and I was I was freaking out because that's how my mind works Now ever since Jacksonville when shit like that happens, especially the man event It's like bro. What happened, you know, but obviously everybody was cool The stream just died and you had then all I hear I'm getting texting people skimbo got a stop He already scored his 14-7 and I was like, damn this should cook because personally I thought every time little man plays skimbo He just gets blown like little man He looks defeated he looks defeated no matter who he plays he looks tough But when he plays skimbo, he just looked defeated before the game and that's like man And I just knew skimbo was one of his game and obviously it was a lot close. He played a lot better Then I thought he would not not obviously he was playing great the whole tournament to make it this far. Yeah Yeah, but I knew when he was terrible defense terrible defense though his office was great his defense was pathetic Yeah, I mean, but that's the skimbo one-on-one dude The number one thing you can't give up the skimbo is this freaking streak up the middle of the field. That's like Yeah, that's when he and when you let him go to streak. I mean you're gonna be prisoner of everything for pretty much Yeah, I thought I was like, you know, I've been doing this since the beginning of the game with I was the only one doing it and I found out that Some of my problem was doing it out of bunched and blocky was doing it out of bunch And I found out I guess a lot of other people were starting to do that little streak that's past leading sign Well, okay, he rang a berry down the box. I wonder what Because you did catch him with the fade because he was so worried about the streak to the inside 32 though Yeah, I definitely And I got hit with an ad and I'm calm to that stuff Compton getting his money. All right. I'm at 432. Where you at? You just got his stick 432 I gotta add to Pause Yeah, Compton get your money, man Get your money Yeah, I'm caught. I'm at 433 Get your money man. Make sure y'all subscribe to my man Compton 187 does the easy job But the time consuming job of recording these games and then uploading them to youtube something I wish EA did a little more properly to give us a proper spotlight and people that want to watch these past broadcast games Can easily search them but Compton get your money. But anyway, we first in time Where you at? How much time on the you just do a playmaker high ball that went over said, okay? Yeah, we're on the same thing. All right, cool. That was your first in completion But the high ball was over though. You just talked about last game high balls were over those at this event Yeah, right and right there I probably didn't need to but I was still a little nervous because If he pulls like a top play where he clicks on just runs backwards on that zone He picks it right like that's next level stuff So I'm like giving little man benefit of the doubt right there thinking he might get glitchy and click on Start running backwards seeing it. So I say separate on first down. You just got to ask the safe way to do the ball So 34 seconds like little man, you're like don't give up a deep play right and I understand right here. I'm calling Uh, what's it called curl flat curl flat this close Yeah, see if I can get to the five yard line or hit a backside drag All of it was all Well, I probably would have played the same defense. I'm just if I'm a little man I'm praying for 17 14 right now And I honestly mean playing right now like because my resume's been kind of bad right here And seeing how little man's been playing defense. I'm like praying He gives me up the streak up the middle right now Like I'm literally just praying that I got the streak up the middle and I'll pass lead it I don't know what the hell he did there. What the hell is that because he didn't blitz you He did nothing So I'm thinking but honestly he's been giving it to me all game. I'm thinking like I need to mix it up I'm like, no, we're not mixing it up. Like he might put him in a quarter. So here comes the guessing game I'll do a motion fade here, but then I see what I see I mean, I don't know why I did it she's a little man See for me, you're getting a middle line back in the deep blue because I honestly Blitz because I'm cool. I want because you're going to take three You know, uh, man, the way you play you're not going to force anything right there. I'm going to play safe as hell That's the situation in the game where you cool. No, you don't need to rush anybody really I get ball half like I'm not going to force it. Like I'm not forcing anything like right there Like you have to play better defensive. Especially the way he lurked to the outside fade through like Yeah, if you're gonna if you're on a 20 yard line and you fit that fade in between my safety in my corner there I mean god bless your heart. You got it. The only way he would run there is if What's it called an inside quarter from the free safety if that but his adjustment was still Just cover two shot. It wasn't an inside quarter. It was a cover two which is supposed to go out there and play it So he shouldn't even done that or you put your or you put your cloth flat a quarter Yeah, but he gave up that and now now that just makes you panic and I don't want to score But well 14 seconds, you know, I'm just not giving up a deep play and You know, we're gonna we're going to go into this half Up seven. That's why I'm like, all right. It's gonna be about the wind. This is about to be easy. Yeah A little man by the fold right here. He's just want to hit a bomb to Tyreek Yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna run back where splits everyone and be that last line of defense That's how I've always played bad and ever since I've been playing I I literally run to the goal line And if you get by everyone I am that last line of defense I'm a little man. I'm calling time on I'm chucking something. Yeah, yeah Listen the way I've seen this game running or just running something. Yeah, something you getting something. I haven't seen some Creeds all over the place Let me see Oh, they showed us these plays that weren't on stream I Happened at 14 14. No, they didn't show it. They still didn't show it No, I'm just saying you caught the slot streak for two touchdowns at least No, those were in there though before the stream crash Yeah, but Compton doesn't have it and say if Compton really did his job He would get the stuff before the stream crash and then edit it with the stuff after the stream But you know, we won't work on that Compton. We're gonna work on that going forward here But now you need points and if you get points here and take Three four minutes on the clock It's like unlike the ice game like I'm not changing anything Like he came out and that's like a half and wanted to call some few plays like me I'm why wouldn't I ever run anything other than Pat's cell right now? It's the same kind of in the same position ice was in right now And then he puts Barry so this is what I was thinking. I'm in so much control and then he backs him up Right. I was about to fade that be so I think I put him on will route because normally when they run back like that They're manned up. That's what I thought I read. So I do it will route here That's why it's taking me forever to call a place. I instantly call verticals here Yeah End of being a deep blue so I had it the will route instantly Yeah, that's what I thought he manned him up to and that worked out fine I thought you were still going to go fade because he was manned up I always think I always think with me I don't think my reads are as good as everyone But I think my pre snap reads of seeing what you're doing. I really think I'm the best at that on offense But as far as making that he made that obvious as hell But you know, it's just like a little stuff like that and there's other stuff I'm not going to mention because I don't give away anything and that's just that's just something I've always been I think good at Oh, man, I really yeah, I kind of I don't know I thought yeah, I'm watching it now. I thought you would go outside because I think there was a hard flat out there. Jesus Yeah, I don't know Was this the play coming up? I don't know. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's just a play. I think it's 21 the 28 20s the one when he does that No, it no it comes I thought I thought I was about to say I think it's this way. I think Is this play is the drag that is the drag playmaker? I wanted to throw it Oh my god Honestly, I was I was so cool though running out of balance and when I playmaker always just playmaker playmaker I saw how bad his user was. I was like, hold up. I was like I might have to try And then I high pointed it and here's a pro tip I should have just high pointed it without a pass lead because when you high point with a pass lead They overthrow it more But if you just do a high point without a pass lead, they throw it at a much better consistent rate Just not as high and that's one of those deals I should just either thrown it away and if I was gonna do a high point just pull down high point Don't do a pass lead as soon as you do it. I didn't even see the result. I'll just put my head down like why Yeah, that was terrible. Why that was terrible all around like look like look it's just a Look at how bad his user was. It doesn't matter. It's just time. It's just terrible pass They've been thrown it away all Even thrown away all No, no, that's typical me though. Dummy knows this here because of finals Yep, the finals he just like I was like, bro If he lose this game because of that because I mean I mean personally I've been cool 24 14 And I told you and I told you what went through my head as soon as I threw the pig I oh, yeah, because all the ones you got throughout the tournament All I said to myself was I have picked off five dudes in the last three games off overthrow high point picks I was like I was due to have one go against me. Let's lock up now That's literally what went through my head like I've been getting blessed all tournament I won't even trip like it is what it is. Let's just keep playing Yeah, and this are you moving back airberry for that bomb? Because the short side. Yep, exactly. But that's what cost you on that play I mean, obviously you got to use or do something I even hit r1. I went for a hit stick for some stupid reason and that made me go into the dirt R1 pretty much does the same thing too with that little like flail animation if you don't time it the right way. So I that looks like something that would happen to me where I go for a strip or go for hits Yeah, yeah, he just kept running he didn't spin just went right by me Yeah, I mean and right there But that's a no I hate that it had to happen to me in this situation And you know how that's why I love playing leaderboard games I mean situational stuff This is a situation that happened and I know next time if I'm doing that I need to lurk on the right side And so I can play that streak for a little bit then come down and unfortunately He gets me for a touchdown not just a big play and a touchdown And now it's a game for no reason We're back in the game I think I ordered another beer at this point. I was like, yo, let's go I do it for the stream And I made sure to do a little I'll never forget this fumble coming up though because I knew I recovered it But little men next to me was out of a seat yelling going wild I'm like, wait, does he know something? I don't does he have the ball right now? Like it happens on this play because my man was a bitch man. It really is. Yep, man Soon as that phone was having I'm like, oh my god Yeah That was definitely a wild ass The momentum was a bitch and I've always felt like man, man will Help you out if you play smart. This is the opposite of play smart right now Yeah, I've always felt like you can make the right rules or help you out. I made one Yeah, I made one awful decision and and it killed me, right? Like that's all it takes That's all it takes And yeah, but I I wasn't still like got a pick and I'm in a position to win it But that fumble would have broke my heart. I know that But the other day it would have been my fault. It would have been my fault though and Obviously, I've always accepted it. W knows that too. I would have accepted it took to the chin. It is what it is I fucked up For sure, but Now you got it in the game. I mean a little bit. Honestly, if you played a lick of defense the way he's playing There's a lick of defense. He might win this game Even if you just played safe or made you work a little more and you know that's all All I had to do was call pat so all game I Don't see no adjustments on defense at all. Like I don't see No, there's none. Like I don't see nothing different. It's like no, there's none. There's none. There's literally none I'm gonna take the streak and then I'm gonna play a high low game. This is my head-to-head game right now This might be my second worst offensive call besides the pick right here Was uh, why would on earth would I run base here after how he's playing uh defense? Do I call base here? I can't remember. Normally, I call base on second and inches. Let's see. No, I pass the ball Same thing wide open Same thing same thing Yeah, I mean, I will understand the same thing if he was gonna switch it up on the resume But he wasn't switching up on the resume He's just saying the same thing I'm just now here. I don't I won't even cover the right here because my office I know how cover two works. I can get pat. I can get a curl flat in here to the Route if he doesn't guard it like I know that and how I and I know pat sell right here though I know the post route and I and I keep thinking he's gonna take away the streak, right? And he's bringing the safety way in so I right here. I call uh curl flat 100% See, I wouldn't play pat sell because I would I would live with you trying to fit that in on my cover too at like the goal line It might but I would lurk the streak and then go to the drag and make you and he doesn't play And you know when I get blitz like I'm gonna start getting wild with my roll out I know the rack ag and I and I had to step. I just had to make sure that cloud came down just a little bit Yeah, for sure man, I mean Travis Kelsey once again 98 overall player just sealing that edge letting them do that little roll out and Yeah, he was his MVP, but I think Kelsey Kelsey might have a second He might he might caught like one or two catches a game and And they were all big they're all high points and he caught them He caught him too kindly, I mean Conley was huge. I've always but I've always loved Conley in the slot for three. Like I've always loved Conley in the slot So weird. He's got height and he's I think he's three. Yeah But now this little man got a score. I think he does score No, uh, this little man tells me after the game He was like, hey man, you know, if I would have scored I was going for two to end it I was wanting to clock you the whole quarter That's rough Uh, I don't mind that Yeah, I mean if you well, honestly how he's playing defense. Yeah, I almost yeah, like what the heck. Yeah, I don't mind that Why not? He feels like he can get a stop right now. So why not go for it? And he had and if you watched little man's games, he had a little glitch of a Of a hitch route high point and it was killing everyone he played Oh, he definitely Conley was balling for little man. I'll tell you what he needed Conley jersey, especially versus uh, blocky, I think Yeah, it was all tournament for him. Yeah, it's it's the glitch where he's on your back They don't they give fan animation for the guy that's ahead of you and they'll give you like, uh, he's gonna ride you Or you're gonna get a touchdown So I think I'm milked the whole I mean the 42nd play clock was crazy. You can definitely milk Yeah, you can milk that. Yeah, this is if he felt like this was the last job I don't even blame him. I don't blame him either when he told me that like feeling but then he told me it after the game I was like, you know what? I don't mind. Yeah, I get it If I don't feel like I'm stopping somebody this is definitely the last job It's crazy me because just in my mind like four when it says four minutes It doesn't feel like you can clock it. But then once this is three, I feel like it's just like Especially 40 seconds. This is like I said three plays and we're at two minute warning I've been I mean five minute quarter games where it's two minutes left in the third And you're like, this is the last job man. You get 40 seconds. You you could do what you need to do 40 seconds Oh That was literally like, you know, it's like con those deals where it's a bad read But it's like not a pick bad read, but it's like oh like that could have been big I had he had it. He just way too late. That's where he got to know skimbo Y'all didn't see it on stream. That was only his second bad pass literally all game Yeah, it's just late. It wasn't that horrible. It's just late. He had it. It's late. Just late. Yeah Well, good read too. No, that's a patient Yeah, I I've been noticing for some reason on stick my cloudflats were playing really underneath So I those were cloudflats too and I almost stopped them. I was spamming rb and I could have that could easily got out of his hand because it was a big bang play If Kelsey dropped that to be honest, I was a bang bang play You know, I mean I would have hit him as soon as he caught it as soon as he caught it I hit him. I pay Kelsey a lot of money. See, but this is a situation for me I guess you can't take it to the tune of the warning But it's getting there He doesn't run Almost, you know breaks one After Barry did fight again for a lot of people he fought on the block sheds Like he should which I wish the game was better at the safety's being able to throw wire receivers out of the way But he did a good job for a lot of people and that's the difference I'm glad he made it so you can play with the people that are on ir even though Eric Barry is back in real life Being able to play with all the other players just make one obviously a lot of people use the chiefs But it opens up a lot of other teams that people gave up on because of that Now, why are we on the nickel out of nowhere like that? Yeah, well, I randomly do that Run defense because because he's shown me and I don't know if I did it because he's shown me He's hitting this tight end route. So I guess this is me getting cute one time I put my uh, I put one of my burr hooks manned up on the tight end And and then so I kept the clouds and I was going to lurk the post with it and keep my other Burr hook on the drag and so yeah I was just wanting to mix it up one time maybe get a shed and make it a third and 10 and just go right back Like I said, I'm I'm not going to get too wild on defense to go up a tight sound that that right there is me getting wild And it's so simple It's just systematic. It really is this all it is just But every side Tyreek was on I've definitely backed up and moved them outside I was definitely nervous of Tyreek this whole entire drive She should man up at the end on Who's this man? No, no, but that should that should have been picked because finally he throws it at my burr hook And uh, I played him over the top too and he like fit it between him like that that right there I couldn't believe that that was a completion. I really couldn't Finally dog No, but now he's in the hardest spot to score here Well, you say that little man's offense in the red zone was unbelievable this whole tournament. I don't know how he was doing But this is the adjustment. I would say even it sounds simple, but uh I'm going to work on the opposite side of mesh post right here. I killed him man. I think like that one Yeah, he just got a 10 yards Plus two times on it. So of course, he's figuring he's going to get more yards and just I My dude stopped it. Still right here. Obviously, we're back in cloud flats. We're not getting too wild on defense here Now I know I can bring my safety's all the way the hell in because I can't get burned over the top And I'm just going to lurk on this side and act like I'm playing the dragon and shoot up to the post And he panicked throwed it And every second that you're returning that is seconds off the clock really. Oh my god Compton we get some money my guy He hit me with the chill We back Yeah, but then that's why a lot of times I was thinking he might go down in the end zone But literally that five six seven seconds just came off the clock Just then the day it all matters at this point in the game Now talk about running out the clock right here. What's the thought? I mean, obviously his defense was bad I'm running the ball. I'm running the ball from my pass and I'm not passing one time. You're getting three runs and I'm not I'm not running the ball. No timeouts and he'll have about 25 seconds once the puns done I'm cool with that. You know what I mean? Like I'm not passing the ball here. Like I'm just not And we are we on conservative or we just rocking out with the balanced We're rocking out. We're rocking out right here because I want to be able to make someone miss and get a first down And we went to inside zone I mean, I'm just for me. I'm just in the craziest inside zone defense right here Well, I saw him click on over there and I snapped it and my dude You might get a run commit out of me on a skimbo coming out and trips tighter and that might be a run Skimbo be a little man play honestly, he played I thought he was gonna lay down It was a done deal and he played a great game He played good on offense. He made literally two awful passes and I got both of those for fix And that was just it. He didn't get away with a bit his battery Skimbo got work on his celebration though I don't know man. Well, if you had to be in the venue, it wasn't too late kind of to get too wild in there Yeah, I believe I didn't have any of my boys But I have you Reggie, Reggie will be quiet Hey guys, you know, I can't wait to go back eat my salad, you know, that salad is waiting for me So, yeah Like I didn't have no one to stunt with Yeah, I mean it'd be like that and then uh, I said uh shoot So ice was the toughest game Master gamer gave you a real tough game I thought master gamer was gonna be a toughest game and then when he missed the field goes huge I thought master game was definitely gonna be a service game field goal changed a lot I think the ice game was tougher Just because I felt helpless on off on defense and I don't like feeling like that as much as people talk about my offense I love defense and I hate feeling helpless on defense and I really didn't feel like that for precise I mean him coming out a half trying to Mix it up is what cost him that game So Now skimbo has three belts. Yeah I said it in the beginning of last year. Yeah That he was the new goat Jean as the real goat. Yeah, I'm saying that we all know us. That's, you know 28 plus know that gene is the real goal How do we rank this guy michael skimbo and his dominance of the last three four years as far as The pantheon of great man players man, uh I'm definitely not number two anymore. What sucks um Got honest truth. All right If we're looking at um Accomplishments, I mean problems been playing longer. So no one has that's no one has done what problems done because problems been playing the longest But like a lot of us look at talent We don't look at what you've done or whatever we look at like like talent and how it looked I ease Skimbo's it Skimbo skimbo's nice, man. Skimbo's definitely one of the most talented man players ever ease He's like it's about Like six to seven players that I've seen a reminds me of and that's a he's in that class is ease Everyone that has arguments like when you talk to old players and it's old players here I guess because I'm not competitive. I'm not hating or whatever I'm know if I was competitive about because I was like, there's a problem. I'm like problems not better than me I don't know what y'all talking about. I'm still and then when I stopped playing that's like, yeah problem problem got it But it's like you'll hear a bunch of people talk and it's like well, um When y'all were playing back in the day, y'all had to come up with different type of offenses and I'm like Well, that's not his fault or whatever because if I could run tight every every game when I was playing back in the day I would have answered every break He can run a bunch every time let him do his thing It's like what the heck why y'all hating for him for that or whatever But it's a lot to his game like he don't get enough credit for his defense And he does a lot of things on defense that other people don't see And he's like an underrated defensive player or whatever a very underrated defense in my mind He's a very underrated defensive player And as far as offense like I've seen in the man 17 I've seen him. I've seen his offense look different for different defensive sets I I've seen him like what you said once you start entertaining or whatever. I've seen his offense go from good to Amazing I've seen a lot of things. Yeah in my mind. He's Yes, yeah, it's kimbos Now I'm gonna ask him. I already know what he's gonna say But my where do you feel like this win was was big? I mean obviously last year in new york was a big tournament win And that's why I think when you was really on your run from man 17 I mean Winning championship then you won the mud head the last like big ass mud head that they had that was for a lot of money Then he went in north carolina tournament. That was hella money Then he won the first that was the craziest from the end of man 17 Auto and and honestly and I told him this the other day He could have five six belts Yeah, you really think about it because he lost the first game the first belt ever to moe In overtime and I heard he didn't take man 16 seriously like I heard he didn't he took No, I was on no, I was I was on a day of love. He didn't really take it there. I think wow So he lost the championship in the first ever mcs Okay in the first tournament he lost him moe in in overtime Yeah crazy game one of the better games in mcs has seen in man 16 Got you then Man 17 comes around he made the first live event then he made man bowl when he was like By the time he did a little stop motion thing He was probably the best player at at the man bowl Then he lost to me in a game. He kind of had in control He had in control And then he probably plays problem and he always had good success against problems So if he doesn't give up that lead to me He could have won that belt Then the next mcs event he plays beast mode in the finals Lays down to beast mode. He could have won that then he won the man championship. Yeah, and so How many finals has he been to? I don't think five That's that's not finals That's the thing So it couldn't so in the last two or three years It could have been worse if it wasn't for the valiant efforts of myself And a couple other souls, but might I'm gonna ask you Where do you think your legacy? What is your goal as a man player when you step back and look at all the people that came before you and obviously the people that are Great becoming what is your goal? Where do you think you have achieved at this point? Uh, I don't know man. I feel like I've achieved as much as I could in the in the in the air I've been a part of you know and uh Honestly a problem just wins one belt this conversation's dead and he's had four chances. I think right. Yeah problems been as much as You know when we step back one sec problem didn't win a belt in this time frame, but he's been like And it's not even been like like the ghost game wasn't close But the game against me we was watching it before we like where he could have won that game super easily And the game against mike he could have that was a hell game too So he's been knocking on the door to where he wins two of the belts Boom then it's not and that's what's crazy and I talked to jet a lot today that problem is Still Like that competitive exit how many people are 30 years old been playing for 10 years And still competing I think it's harder to be This dominant right now. Okay at this madden and then it was 10 years ago. Okay. Why you say that because 10 years ago, I feel like one it was a lot tighter Okay, I'm saying it wasn't as how to be good at madden wasn't broadcasted all over the world Gotcha, you know, that's fair and when you went to a man challenge say it was 200 people there 300 people there Yeah, how many people, you know could give you a good game out of those people Three that's my point But not even that out of those other three that can give you a good game How many people would you have to sweat against now? I feel like if you go to 300 per everybody knows how to run a bunch or run a nickel blitz You know everybody the average player is a lot better now than they were 10 years ago Not that they could beat you but you could lose that anybody now I'm saying because everybody has the system everybody knows what they're doing. Everybody's kind of in tune Not too much. You said three or four We always think it's only 20 30 good man players Yeah, but from 30 to 100 is a lot better now than it was 10 years way better Way, it's way more people Going after this and obviously it's at a bigger spotlight So there's way more people going after it as opposed to then because I love men But it wasn't my my thing to go. Let me go to every challenge like y'all were because I wasn't in that world. Yeah, had there been youtube and twitch back then I would have easily been in that world because I would have been more it would have been more accessible The people like us are way more accessible now than you guys ever were 10 15 years ago and I think more people going after what do you think I think That's fair to say. I think they both are the same to me honestly because I feel as though back in the day. All right um as far as the a challenge, I mean Two minute quarters was rough You fumble your first job and you're never getting the ball back for the rest of the game So to get through that wasn't as easy as people think see it was Because that was rough two minute quarters and then three minute quarters was rough um The what he just went through as far as having to adjust the same the same day in the next day and not not be able to Lab or whatever you had to come up with that and every different tournament. It was different So for some years some for some years It would be like a good 30 people that were okay to good And you don't have a clue what they're doing or whatever you don't have a clue how to get it blocked You don't know what blitz that nanoblitz was was stupid back then So you didn't know how to get it blocked and you had to figure it out And if you didn't figure it out you was going to die So I feel I feel as though nanoblitz has made it made it just the same as as difficult as what you were talking about as far as this era um What else makes it difficult back then Um, the fact that it was only one major tournament made it difficult that and jethead told me that Then when I was talking to him it was like now you've got four chances to get kind of yeah So you got a lot of finals and like back in the day Like I was the only one who went to two and then no one else was getting the finals or whatever back then or whatever It just it was only one a year or whatever. So it was like It is what it is or whatever and tournament start dying down It was like oh for it was like a hundred tournaments or whatever Oh five There was a lot of tournaments and then it just started dying and dying and dying and dying or whatever So I feel it though was difficult in its own ways or whatever But if you put everything the same like if it was like 40 for tournaments then and 40 for tournaments now They both would have the same chance. I think it would I think it would be the same put it that way or whatever I feel as though Like let's say if skimbo was playing back in the day or whatever Like he's been in multiple finals or whatever it'd have been very difficult for him to be in multiple finals Because like he just lost the club series and if that was the tournament it would have been over or whatever and the year was over No matter how many three thousand four thousand talent Dollar tournaments he would have won his year was over. So I just think it was difficult because it was just one major tournament or whatever For sure But I definitely I'm not like the people back in the day I respect the heck out of this air like I feel as though it from old three to old five It was me from 06 and 07 it was secret 08 was problem 10 and 11 was loose. I don't even count on nine 10 and 11 was loose And the problem had his air again and then from 16 and the 19 is him or whatever and for you to have Four street years where I feel as though you you were that man It's that's hard because I don't think anyone's had four street years Where you were that man, I feel like you gotta put mo in there somewhere from mo is the man Mo is the man 25 around there when he was popping all the tournaments there. He definitely had a Mo is the man a tough little run there Especially as far as somebody that could go win a one day two day event You know, that's definitely something that he's always been good at Yeah, I don't I don't I don't know how that works Work honestly because like I said, I didn't start playing mad until mad in 13. That was my first madden, right? But I'll say this when I came in the madden 13 and my first year was madden 25 Those dudes that were like the top players. I'm not going to mention any of the names because they're really not playing no more. They uh They're not even relevant now So it makes me wonder like what kind of level were Did the game just change that much or is the level just that much higher than it was? I'm not talking about like in jeans air. I'm talking like four years ago era. You know, I mean that little That little spark right there from madden 12 I guess madden 25 because when I came into the scene I remember who were the known guys and and who made those runs and those vg tournaments and now Now it wasn't because they stopped playing and they told me it's just they they're just they're not good anymore And I don't I don't know if that's because the game has changed a lot with quick adjustments Like if you went back and played a madden from just four years ago, the game's completely different Right, but those guys they're nowhere to be found now And it makes me really like wonder is the game just that much different or because there's so much money on the line These kids are putting this much hours Like I said this other day somewhere. I can't say where it's like, you know the whole speech I've got to give my kids when we're outmatched. Hey, they they uh, they get up the same week They dress like we would they eat like us blah blah blah the same person's like the same thing with these kids Like they might be people we've never heard of but what's to say if they're not putting in eight to ten hours a day Like why can't they play at an unreal level, right? So it's just kind of that's just kind of where we're at a lot of those dudes that dominate that era They're just like not even not even around now. Like they just stopped playing and so I I think the skill level of Not just top 20 people but like top 100 people have just gotten so much better I I agree with that as far as like from the top 20 to the top 100 is way more difficult to deal with than it was back in the day I guess someone that played like even though I don't play nowhere near as serious as you guys Someone that played now and someone played then I think it's a total different game because it's like I guess when I'm labbing back in the day or whatever. I'm literally like I'm I noticed I could be wrong, but I've noticed You have some type of scheme to go deep throughout every single year or whatever You know exactly what to do or whatever to go deep and me personally When I'm practicing back in the day, I'm looking to throw through things like I'm not necessary. I could care less I'm gonna go deep But I'm like you got covered too. I want to throw through that guy over there That's that was really my goal or whatever. So it's a different game or whatever because it's none of that No, I can't throw through him. So since I can't go through through him I gotta make reads. I gotta do this that in a third or whatever and someone who played back in the day It's definitely more difficult. It definitely went up a level or whatever because you got to make reads You got to make different adjustments And back in the day, I'm not necessarily like when I'm practicing I'm looking to throw through coverage is more so than reading or whatever. I'm throwing three people I'm I'm going to a five-yard mark and I'm boxing out. I'm going to a 10-yard mark and I'm boxing out I'm I'm going to 15-yard mark and I know none of your guys are going to be there. I don't care Yeah, and so it's different. It's definitely different. The game has evolved from being completely Surrounded by a game through a gimmick. Yeah gimmick whatever gimmick it may be A rocket catch up the middle motion this guy over snap throw is whatever it may be. Yeah, you're right Maybe because of pet but even more so it was wild back then like you just had and you can make a whole offense around one gimmick Now it's more so a whole offense around one route, you know, and it's not really a gimmick I was just one they don't cover. Yeah, it really is because of patches though Because it's like say we were doing that the first month and everyone's rocket catching like they were This error they would oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah, for sure. Definitely if there was patches back then Some like curls definitely and oh nine curls that would have been yeah completely wiped out Yeah, and it's just the patches definitely changed something that's super overpowered But at the same time If it rocket catching was something that separated somebody good Like I could play this guy over here on the computer and I could blow him out 80 to 0 Because I knew how to rocket catch and I knew how to nano bliss now I could play this guy on a computer most of them beat him now is 35 zero or something like that And that that would is not going to be cute. It's not going to be like damn It's not going to show How much better somebody is than somebody else. Yeah back 10 years ago You would watch somebody play a random and you would be astonished by the way you kicked their ass Now it's you can't you can't look that much better than a janitor. No pretty much. Y'all this is going to look There's nothing you can do. Yeah, since the swerve the swerve was the one thing That's exactly what I was about to say The one thing the swerve you could do was just really embarrass the shit out of a regular human being And that's something we really don't have that you could really go ahead and embarrass somebody and I think That's what people like to see that's what's made You know ninja and all the fortnight streamers so good because they go out there and embarrass the shit out of people Yeah Like I can lock in as much as I want on mud head to head But I'm not going to just really embarrass somebody and make them look horrible Even if you beat them, it's really going to still look Look the same but I think that's what he wants or whatever because when it was like that People got the point that they wasn't going to be us and then they left They're like we're not going to be dumb It's no point in no point in even trying or whatever because it was it was like out like To go back to the top 20 to 100 people whatever they would they would copy off of what someone came up with or whatever and beat Beat randoms and beat the heck out of them and it'll make them look way better than what they They really are whatever just off of chemical whatever now The top 20 to 100 people right now in this era or whatever they still have to fight or whatever so So it's it's it's made way more difficult in my mind in this era Then it is. Yeah It's hard in this era because like I mean who ran a blitz that you've never seen at that tournament That dog right Right young dog might have ran something just a little different. It was three two five normal I mean like back to it. I mean that's the thing like with Where I'm getting that. Sorry. I forgot to say it with youtube and twitch and all this stuff It's like like that's why it's so easy for someone to be a top 100 player and compete against a top 10 player Because they're running the same thing as you It's just how are you gonna clock differently or what little adjustment will you do to just throw them off guard that one time? Because they have the same blitz as you but can he adjust out of it, you know, I mean that's what separates but I feel it's not to cut you off I feel as though if it was if it was like back in the day and no one knew what would come up Whatever it'll be that you will show you personally skimmer will show to the tournament or whatever Much prepare and you'll see everyone don't have a clue because I think the youtube and the twitcher and everything or whatever Prepares everybody. I think it would be the same Yes, because I you said you was playing a man 25 and I remember low school into a tournament and like He'll tell you the only person I knew about that corner out was me and him or whatever because I come up with it And he went to that tournament and no one knew about that corner out And I was a person who created and no one knew about it and he dominated the tournament That's how I would be right now if it wasn't for twitching youtube It would be one person Yeah, it was one I popped him I put me on the map when I popped him at it 25 and that groovy crew Yeah, no, no, he really here because I wasn't going I was I wasn't going all the way to that tournament But I was the only person to come up with it and he was the only person to know about it But that's that that's that's the example. I think it would be like that this year or whatever I just think twitch and youtube made it made it whole a lot harder for people to just show up Because you would have showed up with the bomb glitch. No one would have known about it or whatever and It'd have been scary. That's how it'll be. It's just it's just a different air It's more difficult for a lot of different reasons in my opinion Yeah, so like so funny you said that so like I kind of got upset with dreamy so I'm in bunch and I knew about this uh a couple cover three bombs and w knows what I'm talking about from the NASA for whatever and Well dreamy found the same bomb and puts it on youtube for everyone to see on cover three I'm just sitting there going just just man. It's just I do my verticals Yeah, that little out route with whatever which is would but still it's like I thought everyone knew about the fade. I can people were like, oh, we knew about that too. I was like, yeah, but like People don't know how youtube listen The million subs you get on youtube. They're not looking for how to beat cover three They're looking for how to run the ball. How does that run? No, but no, but if you teach them But the top 100. Yes, you're right Top 100 your goal on youtube is not get the top 100 you want the top million They're all messing up on that but we're not talking about that we're talking about skill gap at the top 20 the top 100 That's what makes the top 100 more competitive. Yeah, that too. Well, that's definitely a skill gap in man I mean 100 no, I think I hate when people said the the the worst players bring up skill gap This is always gonna be a skill gap in man There's a skill gap people are just mad that Unknown names that put a bunch of hours in the game or just as good as they can be just because they put in the time It's not it's not who you are anymore I mean, I think we just saw that in the madden classic You can show up and that person next to you knows about the money and they put in 10 hours a day Just like you and we saw it at the madden classic unknown names Talked about how much time they put in the game and they knew about the money It's not like back in the day when I first played. Hey, I'm playing for three or four hours I'm gonna fly down to Atlanta and go play an underground tournament. It's bro I'm playing seven or eight hours as soon as I'm off work and I'm gonna put in the time And I think we're just kind of seeing that right now. Yeah Yeah, I mean to see I think there's a huge skill gap and a huge knowledge gap I really do that's like then that's Skimbo successful. I think they just worded wrong when they put it on twitter and they complain in crown tweets I I don't think I don't think it's a skill gap between the top That 30 or say the top 50 to the top 200 or whatever because I think they're the same player or whatever in my opinion or whatever So maybe that's what they mean or whatever, but from one to whatever number you want to put it It's a definitely a big skill gap or whatever. It's just let's say back in the day or whatever it dealt those whole 20 to 300 or whatever It was a way big skill gap but now it's like if the top 32nd person can lose to the top 277 they could look like the same player in one game or whatever. I guess that's what they mean or whatever And this is uh, this is what I'll tell you Um, the problem this is the skill gap with problem and has nothing to do about what he runs It's his clock management and stuff like that. I told I told W this I would love to have played like problem for my career, man I wish I could play like even though it may be ugly and no one no one wanted to do it on offense and A lot of people don't think much of it or whatever man The way he fights and his freestyle ability and it keeps him in every man. It's it's crazy I wish I could play like problem I told dubby this too I sent me a problem a lot of light like that like I'll look awful And I've been blown out maybe one time. I think I think it was for slights And no cbj because I was wild but I told uh dubby I'm like bro It's like I'll never get blown out even when I'm playing awful just because I know about clock management Yeah, I'll the not be dumb and the red zone and hold him the three like it's that little stuff That's a huge skill gap that a lot of these players like like don't care about I I mean he had it and he tries to get you it's like bro Man, there's a clock take your tight end dump down that you've been having success It's like little stuff like that like I could look awful But because I know it's worth in the half or because I know about the two minute warning and how the clock and all that stuff I think I think the skill gap sometimes doesn't even come from being glitchy It just comes from Being like a real nfl coach and that's why we get so upset as madden players because We deal with this stuff all the time and so we see it every game we play we fight five six games a day And we deal with clock situation I think that's why problem is always going to be at the top because of that that that skill alone and We're not even talking about being glitchy. We're talking about managing a clock and knowing situational stuff Yep, all right, girl 100% except verse me when you do that high ball at jimmy that was that was the one time I saw a problem not be problem. I appreciate your problem. I know you out there That's the one time I saw a problem That's the probably the only time in his career. I seen problem not be problem That was the only time I'm gonna go to my grave I'll be skimbo and I'll be problem in the tournament. Yep. The two best players And the hardest and the hardest player at the time hollywood. Yep and hollywood. Yeah, definitely hollywood. Yeah That wasn't crazy run. That was a hell run. That was a hell run. Skimbo don't want me on the main stage. I'm saying I had I'm I'm I'm back Man, man 20. I can't have this man. They're really walking around talking about how great skimbo is But he knows what the deal is. He knows what it is. Yes. I have that covered three clouds Like I said, man, there's always good when we already talked about you took what you took Oh, yeah, you're right. I had to do it. See and he's gonna leave me. That's crazy. You know what I'm saying? Geez, you don't know the sacrifice I've made for Michael. Yeah, but anyway, we talk about the sacrifice of the future I want to ask you because We have a lot of the same opinions obviously on these things we talk about all the time and that's the future at mcs like what Where do you see needs the biggest improvements and what do you want because you are different to me You are the epitome of somebody that just Is maintaining off your tournament winnings if you don't win you don't get paid That's pretty much how your life has been and you're dependent on the mcs structure You're dependent on them doing something for one of the Probably the biggest name player. What can they do for you to make your future in mcs better? What do you think they need to include? Uh, man, there's just so many. I don't think we're gonna be able to fit it in but uh I don't even know where to begin. Uh I'm thinking about the 2k league. Um, that's not even that's not even 2k That's the mba, right? That's the that's the we're so far away from that that and it makes me sick And I know it makes you sick I know it makes every other man player sick to see the opportunities To see what these 2k players have to see everything that's laid out in front of them and the opportunity they have and I tell I obviously I taught these probably the most and I tell him man Take advantage of this don't let dumb shit ruin it Don't let y'all ruin it from the inside because us we put in the same amount of time as video games Which is those guys, you know when we master our video game as best as we can And we love our video game as much as they love 2k and they've given a huge opportunity That we continue to watch them at watch the mcs Watch ea and we could just beg for an opportunity like that to be in a position where they are not only with their stability But there's such a you know a tight knit group that they're going to stay stable for a long time And that's really something that we wish we could get to. I hope they don't ever mess that up man They don't know how good they have it man No, but like I was saying, um Obviously I wish the NFL I guess would get involved and put on contracts because not even The guaranteed contracts that these kids get for six months 35,000 or something like that I know a couple of the top players that if they stream, um, like 10 hours a week They get paid 30 dollars per hour and that's some nice change right there. I mean you're already you're already on your contract With the league and then you're gonna get paid 30 dollars per hour, you know 30 times 10 you're gonna make 300 dollars A week just streaming like doesn't even matter your views or anything just because Your organization wants you to do some kind of streaming you fire up a stream Yeah, I'm gonna make 300 dollars this week, you know, that's 1200 dollars in a month on top of maybe of winning and contracts so Obviously in the future, I hope we get there, but I'll talk about it without having the NFL involved. I think, uh I think the format was honestly pathetic pathetic this year. Um, I think the first tournament was cool Obviously what happened, you know Jacksonville There's gonna be some things that need to be changed now at the time. It sounded good But I don't see security being od and uh for for locations I I think we all get back to online and this is where I get I think You know, I I think leaderboards were taught for I said it on twitter I'll say it again. They have to they have to come back. They have to come back because It avoids the fluke and it makes people just play the game and Right now I'm 40 and 0 on draft champions And I don't even need to touch the game anymore. Like it's done And that leaderboard that leaderboard is done in two months So now I go into a single elimination and I could get fluked out. Which happens I just feel like going forward talking about me securing the bag I need taught for because I'll always be a top four. I feel like and I need me to have a better chance of making the money another thing I just got done winning. I believe I said going I said before this before I won it and obviously people are gonna look at my road They're gonna look at my road and feel like it wasn't that and here we go typing that. I'm a loser. So funny I'm not Right So but I look so I said going to the tournament. I thought the regular tournaments I thought whoever won that tournament was a goon. I felt like playing that many single elimination games in two days You know, whoever earns it earns it I mean honestly, man, I'm sitting over here with $25,000, which is great But I'm also looking at club series if you make top a you make 20 or 25,000 for make the top a So what I just went through, you know, if you make top a you're making just as much money as me and I just feel like the money has to get better for first place because even the last tournament of the year You know, unlike like I think the madden 17 was perfect You one of the first tournament was like 30,000 the w tournament was 75,000 the beast mo mack tournament was 50,000 and like that's a lot of money and then The championship obviously was 100,000 now. It's 25 30 and 40 on top of the 100,000 that you win for club series So there's no 75,000 bag. There's no 50,000 bag Yeah, I mean It's a you know hindsight to that or it's a another end to that is somebody That is trying to make a living all right Say you're still making a little change even if you don't have a crazy run Like even if you come up on 3,000 and $2,500 Obviously, it's not a lot of money. You had a disappointing tournament ultimately But it's still a little bit of money I'm saying I think the club series is a little wild. Actually, it's a lot wild when it comes to that I feel like it maybe the top four could get paid a little bit But I think the club series definitely pays out a little bit too broadly I think we can all agree on that man. I don't think like I wouldn't care about the club series being the way it was if they made one of y'all one of the four tournaments I want to take all Like if it was like if it was like one of the tournaments was the winner take all in the first place Like the last tournament a year like if that was then I wouldn't care about the club series being the way it was I'm cool. We'll get everybody getting paid. You know, I don't I mean one tournament out of four Right. Like one tournament out of four because because it'll leave you Unless they're going to put it back the way like okay, man 17 was the best way But I don't think it's gonna go back. That's how I feel last year. I had a good year, right? I didn't want a tournament. I made a final four. I made final six. Yeah, I made over $50,000. Yeah I didn't want to tournament. Yeah, you know, so I feel like ultimately when I look back on my life I'm gonna say damn. I had a good year that year I didn't win anything and if not, no one's ever gonna remember my man 18 But I made a salary plant man 18, you know, so essentially I do want everybody to get paid out I just think that it needs to you need to draw the line somewhere You know, and I all right, but 25 30 and 40 It's like it really only one tournament to play for am I paying like my biggest thing is that No, I said this the kib and kib said it I can win every tournament and not make as much as that guy Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like like you it only make to me it makes like one tournament the only tournament that anyone should care about Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, there's a lot of people with that attitude. You'd be surprised on some top players I've said that I step back and what I think about mad MCS is What was wrong with man 17? You know, like what Why didn't we take the man 17 and just kind of, you know Improve on that format, you know, and even man 18 obviously they included club series a lot more I guess that was the biggest transition from 17 to 18 But even if you took eight, I think you went from 18 and just kind of made it a little worse than 18 You know when we were all kind of pissed off at 18 to begin with Yeah, then you took 18 and just made a worse version of 18, you know, and I feel like even three years From 17 18 19. It's got progressively worse. Yeah, I agree Well, the the format the format's actually better this year than last year However, it's not because there's no top four leaderboard grind and that's what makes it at the end of the day not But it really is because there's a last chance tournament to get it into the ultimate league and all that But um, this is me about money though. Um, so I don't know. I'm gonna ask gene a question gene. You're a top five player, right? Okay Is there a big difference for you to go into a live tournament making two thousand and five hundred when you expect to win Say that question one more time. Okay. You're a top five player, right? You're expected to go win a hundred thousand dollars, right? Okay Is there a difference if you go to a tournament and you come up short between making either two thousand or five hundred when a hundred thousands a go Is it a big difference? No, is it really even a little difference? I mean obviously it's a little different, but is that even a difference making five hundred to two thousand dollars really when one hundred thousands ago, right? Exactly for that. It's top players now. How about these guys that you know, little jimmy that qualified through online because the club series was weak Do you think that's a do you think but do you think that's a big difference even for him between five hundred two thousand? Because I really think he's cool with the free trip and making five hundred dollars. I agree No, you know what i'm saying. You know what i'm saying though And this is why this format could be good if they would have changed this and i've done the math And I went to new england and I lost but if I would have lost the first first game I would have made Two thousand dollars and a free trip to new england I think a lot of those guys would have been happy with a free trip to new england's field being on the field and making five hundred dollars playing Madden, right? So if they would have just made that two thousand dollars last place finnish five hundred dollars You times it by 64 because there was two that would be 96 extra thousand dollars that could have been out there for top eight finishes and other tournaments And I thought about that if they cut like I said a top top player. There's no difference between 500 and 2000 There's really not when you're expected to win a hundred thousand dollars. That's your goal There's just no difference between 1500 dollars. There's not and for the guy doing it for experience for his first time Yeah, I got a free trip to california and I got 500 dollars. Hell you can't beat it, right? That's how I look at it But you know how and but how i'm looking at is that 1500 dollars Times 64 because 32 people but since it's two people's times two 64 is 96 thousand dollars Could you imagine if they would have broke up that 96 thousand in the top eight of finishes? Like that's where i'm at now And it could have easily been done and the money would have looked freaking phenomenal for making like first place Like the first term in seven 25,000 could have been 35,000 and then ultimately you know what I mean? We could break it down. That's 96 extra thousand dollars They did not need to pay out some of these payouts that they did and it could have looked a lot better on paper And that's just my opinion. I'm sure people will disagree with me But that's just how I look at it. I think you're right But I've I've grown to to realize that I don't think Whoever runs everything cares about top players or people who play it every day and try to make it a living I think they care about the people that don't play it because they want more people I remember when I was playing and the randoms and Everyone who didn't have a chance to play stopped playing because of us and I just don't think they want that And I think whatever it takes to get Someone who doesn't play man to play man is their goal and what you care about or what makes sense because you're a professional man player is none of their concern and Issues it's been shown throughout years and years and years and I think it's going to get worse and worse and worse Because they don't really care about you the professional man player in my opinion And I'm talking about like how I don't want a top five player to make a living on this We want a top 10 or 15 player to make a living off this That's how I feel like what I just said would help this out I agree rewarding our top our top top players and I get We go on to a point where we want to give out the constellation trophies and stuff like that and that's fine But I really don't feel like for those people 500 or 2000 just that make of a difference I really don't like I think they should still get paid. That's cool I got 500 dollars free trip and like I put in the chat I get a 200 dollar visa gift card for food and uber and all that stuff I mean, that's not a bad little gig and you get to go out and have a good time And but for me a top 10 top 20 player every year I would love to have that 96,000 Meet a little bit more into me for maybe a final eight finish. You know what I mean Man when we were we were to hawaii and they just gave everyone a thousand dollars in a free trip to hawaii or whatever The people were lit people who don't play man were happy. The happiest people ever lit, right? That's what that's exactly what I'm saying and the professionals the professionals didn't care about it But the most of the people there didn't play that was their first tournament and they was they were I got a thousand dollars and I'm in hawaii man. Like they were happiest people ever I'll still be like that I'm cool. I'll tell you man the wins getting to the live event for me were like bigger than than life especially the first one And even after that man every live event, especially when they cut it to eight I was like, please god. I don't think I'm gonna make it before the year and then the wind them games to go to the eight Oh man, it's it's something else. Hey, let me say Let me say this. I see techers in the chat. Don't worry techers about a free trip You're gonna pop ghosts in that club series. Don't you worry about it? You won't you're gonna make you some money Ghost on team up something right now. Go listen. Go care about man. Don't worry. No, he won that one belt. He good There you go Ghost is scared of techers. Trust me. I've heard it. He's scared of techers. No, ghost scared of everybody You you put somebody in front of ghost. He's gonna tell you how good this person is how they tough He's sneaky to play on the low. He tough to play. That's ghost's line. I swear guy He's tough to play no matter who he playing ghost is gonna head and win that man But yeah, man, I talked about the top four a lot. I think that's a pretty devastating thing has to come back You know what? I'll say this real quick. I got feedback from madden 17 They asked me after madden 17. What's your feedback? I said one thing. I said keep the top four That's all I said Keep the top four or rewards that your grinders your better players from being fluked out in a single elimination They go to group stage. I that's all I said This year two years later. There is no top four. Let's go They don't want y'all on on another control. They don't want y'all holding about every single time It is one of the they don't want they want somebody new up there Because it doesn't it'll make everyone at home feel as though they have a chance to do it. I don't say I don't think so at all Why don't you think so? I think you know what I think jimmy verse joe If skimbo play problem, that'll be way bigger to watch that if jimmy plays joe, I agree But I don't think they necessarily want that. I think you know, I think they want jimmy versus joe and the next year they want timmy versus tom and in the following year They want they want it. It just makes for I agree That's that's the way I felt ever since I was playing it came to a point where they don't want y'all there and They're going to show how bad they don't want y'all there, you know, it's crazy gene I'm gonna say this because I kind of I wouldn't agree with this if I didn't hear this comment from someone after I won the tournament Matt marquee says to me and I thought about it later He goes could you imagine if every like could you imagine every tournament being like this single limitation? I'm like, so who did you say that gene? That's I'm I believe that a hundred percent they've proven it Maybe he meant it like could you imagine if we did every tournament like this like it's a good thing We don't but then if you look at it, what if you really meant to like, you know what I mean? Like I that's funny you say that because the guy who runs the show Said something like that now he could have meant it two different ways But if you've been at your way then that is something They've proven it to me to me. They've proven it a hundred different times that they don't want You you being because if it was a top four, you would be there all the time and They don't want that It was it was like that too Baseball is better when the Yankees are good Baseball is better when the Red Sox The NBA is better when the Knicks and the Lakers are good period Is something to watch something to root against or root for you, right? But I don't think they want that I mean, but I think that's common sports marketing. I think I mean shoot Well, we'll know next year if there is one if they bring back the top four I mean they have to bring they have to bring it back No, I'm it takes me 30 minutes to find a game on draft champions. This is the only motor supposed to grind I ain't gonna lie. I'm bummed out. I didn't make club series. Like I lost, right? I have two or three months. What am I gonna do? Like, you know what I mean? Like I'm a professional madden player No, no for real though your professional madden player one of your top five madden players this year Is not gonna test the game for two months. I just think that's gonna have 17 games Some of y'all lose to somebody running buns No, no one's on draft champions like no one There's no there's no reason to be on draft champions. What's the point exactly? Everyone's getting ready for clubs. Like I said, there will be no creep creep names I have nothing to go again, but we know what skimbo's doing now. Skimbo is going to be the first multi-sport athlete What's that combine right now? Oh man, so skimbo like all right, so say boom They come to michael skimbo boom you getting drafted the sixers draft this skimbo. Okay And you get to a point where it's them But now I gotta give up madden. Would you ever give up madden if a team legit drafted you? I want to hear this answer Uh, I'm 100% going to okay You're going to okay I'm gonna take a guaranteed 35 40 000 dollars with a chance to make more money from winning And a chance to maybe if they talk to me about streaming and paying me like some of these guys I'd be an idiot if I didn't because I know the payout structure is for these other two tournaments. I agree You know what I mean 100% I mean, I don't think it's an option It's not it's not an option and I think about it because What would that do for madden? I think ultimately this would make madden look awful And it would have to if if skimbo who is the biggest player right now the most successful player in the mcs error Said you know what madden's mcs structure is not good enough for me He's the best player in the last four years, you know without a doubt He's the biggest player if if he turned around and said, you know what? I'm going to go to 2k instead Mark who got a goal that that five minutes after that announcement. They all gotta go you got to pick up People off of the street So ultimately I'm rooting hard as shit for skimbo to make the 2k league. I'm like, yo, let's stream Listen, we want to stream you playing center. They want to see that you can make the 2k league artist I didn't I didn't I I didn't have a 2k God is my witness. I didn't have a 2k and you can ask everyone back in the day I it got to a point where it's like this is pointless to play in or whatever I'd rather do anything else to play this or whatever and it and it's it is where it's at where it has to day I think if Disappointingly if skimbo went to 2k, which I hope I hope haven't I don't think anything will change They have to I just think it's I've seen it I've seen I've seen me be on me be on offense by myself me go out of my way not Not going to mad nation the first season for for reasons. I don't need to discuss on here Me me going on my way now playing tournaments and Philly for reasons and it's like, yo, this is stupid I'm not doing this. I'm not doing this and it just seems like everyone will do the exact opposite And they don't care anything about what's smart and it it just go on and go on and And on top of the combine on top of the the league did y'all know? Well, I think dubby knows I don't know gene knows this like, you know My ultimate team like imagine if they had like a my ultimate team tournament out of nowhere for 250 000, right? That's a lot of money, right? They they have that for not only for the 2k league players are guaranteed their contracts to make more money They have a my team like the ultimate team for 2k 250 000 tournament right now Man, like they haven't so good. I hope I hope they never messed that up, but they don't know how good they are I think that's amazing. I think ultimately us as man players are big enough to if we all stopped But it's impossible to get everybody to do that. It's dumb. That's what I'm saying if we all did it if we all did it it would but it's like It's only gonna be a few of y'all and then the the main player It's some main players some main players with big names that just won't do it They won't do it ultimately. I think I don't even think I think of the top 30 40 if we went and did our own thing I think it could be successful. The problem is we don't have the money It's hard to tell kid or joke or ghost or even probably don't play in the ea shit where they're giving away a million dollars It's impossible to tell me that but I do think if we did have a union and we did go do our own thing That it would definitely make some changes happen because I think over the last three or four years Most city players have built up a name that's big enough Enable to you know to make a recognizable change because of how big we have gotten as players and individuals That I do think it would make a difference But it's just impossible to really unite everybody and say, you know I don't want yeas money because at any day we all want yeas money And it's really not that hard for people that are good to get a piece of yeas money right now I'm saying so it's impossible to get people to change that really I don't know I mean like I said the 2k league is ran by the nba And maybe the nba just knows like what the heft what the f they're doing right like Adam soba all those guys like that's his like That's all them. It's like no doubt if All these people that have the millions and billions of dollars that are in nfl They know that esports is bigger than life right now. It's to the point where they don't they don't care about Madden they care about esports. I'm gonna put my money in fortnight I'm the pittsburgh stillers have their own esports team And I should have done with madden They're going to continue to put their money into esports and madden has to become relevant enough For them to want to invest in madden because right now they're saying damn the money's in fortnight The money's in counter strike. What I was really saying though Yeah, and that's great for the 2k league and we sat with the nfl But honestly like we gotta get our stuff right even with the money we're giving out the with the money We're giving out there's nothing about what our what our structure is good Like really besides we're giving out a bunch of money. That's literally it. You know what I mean? That's literally it They don't promote it. They don't promote it and and I I know you look at it just as much as I do This is all I look at during the day saturday I was chilling and I'm ready to watch the vikings club championship I check all day. I don't even know the time I check all day because I check. So this is vikings club series. I'm checking the vikings twitter I'm checking madden league ops, which we always talked about past broadcast y'all want to watch them They only youtube right it's embarrassment madden league ops the madden the madden twitter the regular one and the mutt one and I just because Winning these club series is a big moment You're saying obviously straight from was at the stadium. That's really cool Joe rice was there that was whatever it may be and I just really wish these people Because honestly me winning the tournament was the best thing that ever happened to me It was awesome with all the attention whether it'd be most of it was negative at the time But looking back at it I mean it was just a whole experience being around a many people being promoted like that And I want everybody that succeeds in this to have that type of experience that I have Yeah So I really took a lot of eyes on what they do how they promote and how they big up these players like ryan Like uh, westley like jay. Well, whoever made that put this much time energy into the game to succeed and experience something Incredible in their life and they just don't promote it at all and it's really they don't I literally just Got literally just logged on a twitter and saw figgy one and I'm like, how Like You want to hear something funny? I played sunday. I think I knew england I didn't know what time I was playing until nine o'clock that night on saturday And I played in the event. I didn't know what time I was going to play I had no email. I had no message. I showed up saw someone for me. I said, uh, yeah What time do I even play tomorrow? I never even heard and that's a competitor that plays the next day I haven't no idea. That's crazy. I you literally got a log on twitch all the time just to see if they're up or whatever I get the notifications or something like I literally log on and it's just like figgy one. Congratulations figgy And again, I'm like, seriously, when did he win? Like like I'm fulfilling. Why don't I know this? Like it's crazy twitch is huge now like there's yeah from so many games twitch is huge Because no effort in the twitter helped out so much like it's crazy. I was ninja help and It's just it's just there's no incentive to stream madden. There's no attention I don't know why they don't view bot. Why the hell don't they view bot? Like the man classic got over 20,000 views on on twitch, which is probably the biggest it's been on twitch since man 17, right? Because man, I don't know what the hell they were doing man 17, but man 17 was a 50 k 70 k 80 k people I'm like, what the hell what's the difference between man 17 man 18 and man 19 because right now They have completely ignored twitch and I don't know I don't know what's going on dude. It's not my job You're right though We have to do better marketing because I look I we got to use the 2k league right 2k players love madden madden players love 2k We're sports gamers, right? Yeah. Now a lot of like I am a lot of other people play other games I just like sports games. That's just me. I only like sports game and dragon ballsy. Anyways, uh So, uh, what was I saying? Um, so I look look at their look at their twitter. They've had it for less than a year It's verified with 60 70 000 followers NBA combine whatever NBA 2k league like it took them less than you have that we had we've had madden league ops for three years now And we have bigger twitters in them. I feel like And our name is still madden league ops by the way I don't know why it's still that not something like mba 2k league or the madden Championships like something that sounds cool something see okay, so if you were to watch the 2k league You could keep hearing them say mba 2k league, right? So you go on twitter type an mba 2k league There's something so when you hear madden championship era madden championship series you go on twitter you type that in wait I was supposed to type in madden league ops to hear about all this stuff No one in the right mind that's a casual at home would think oh, yeah madden league ops That's got to be the one I got to click on when there's one for the mba that says mba 2k league on it Like what it is with a check mark And so I mean, how are we supposed to grow when we can't even get like stuff like that, right? All right See in my man, bobby says in the chat My he says you are the goat, but you don't stream or promote madden. So maybe it's on the players as well How do you feel about that? I will when I get when I will when I get paid $30 Okay, so now you know me as a person that streamed and put so much effort into this shit, right if someone turns Why should I stream? But my point is If anybody if ea ever comes to you and offers you money to stream or kiv money I would take it okay, and you're right and me as a person that streamed for free without them helping me a fucking lick I would be furious Furious, but that's how to kick that's how to kick Well, I understand but my yes my point is that the people that are doing it now for pennies Yeah for shit for fun and to promote the game if we weren't offered the same shit I would be furious now No doubt if kiv and skimbo if they went out there and they streamed it would make man grow Immensely on twitch for sure not. I mean, I don't know how much it would do, but it would definitely help But if they ever went to the guys at dinner stream and say, you know We'll we'll offer you x y and z to stream and they didn't put it to the person that just Be in the ass to stream and sacrifice and all the competitive advantage to stream If they didn't offer us the same thing if not more I would be furious at that You think it was yeah, but like I said this this comes from nba players Muffler you think it'll help if skimbo kids great stream. I don't see it. Yeah But another thing with kid streaming isn't necessarily being good at the game isn't Yeah, that's what I'm saying like you got to be a streamer and it's like that's a different type of talent It definitely would help the return the return of streaming is that you have to really grind that shit for years and years Gene I'll just put it this way. I streamed one mcs game and I put that pop by kid. I lost You know how many views I had I promoted that stream 10 minutes before it happened You know how many viewers I had in there how many 1500 and 10 minutes. That's huge No, I think yeah, I think Kevin Kevin skimbo. They streamed it But then but I think they we should all get paid honestly. Um, that's how I feel I mean the shit is the shit is helping their game. Yeah, you say that but then like I said you look at 2k They only do it for their top two players. They don't do it for everyone. So I mean you got to choose I mean I don't know. I don't really know what the hell I don't know what's going on with 2k. I don't know what the situation is but I'm just talking about those players that are signed with those organs like the wizards only the top two players get paid for the Stream even some of some of them only one they only offer it to one like one player on the team like the wizards Yeah, I don't really know how that works I'm just saying if EA came out and was like, yo, kid and skimbo look at y'all secret You don't want to start streaming will give you $20 an hour. I'd be sick about that shit, honestly Well, not me now in my personal situation That's deserved. Hell. I've done all that shit. I deserve it No, you trip Do you give it to something random that doesn't win? You're crazy. No, but I'm saying you give it to people that I think they should give it to prom or w for anybody Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like well, of course. We're talking about too, but I'm thinking you're talking about a lot more than You too. I'm cool. Oh, no, no. Yeah, that's my point. I'm just saying I'm saying w. I don't give a fuck about everybody Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying Yeah, I'm talking from my perspective why I would be pissed about it Well, I don't want I don't want them to come to chicoby and say, yo stream. I can use one of y'all I got chicoby's my guy, but I just say him because he Yeah, I'm talking about Debbie and problem or I mean fuck Somebody like it has to be like belt winners with a good following like there has to be standards to it Yeah, obviously make that standard. That's where I was at Yeah, I'm not talking about the randy-dandy But I I don't know. I think I think if they put more effort into twitch I tell them all the time if they did shows every day because I don't know where to hell these 5000 people that watch man Twitches every time they do a show Where do they come from? Who are these people? I need those people to know who we are I'm saying the people that there's really only like 1,500 men You know what the stuff and I got to see it a little bit the stuff that farls and gives are doing in the morning They're doing they're they've they've listened they they every time they're done with their stream They go and rate someone and they do it someone that has a face cam and they're into it. They'll go look I've seen it. They'll go look and they're like, all right, we're rating him like let's give them all our views Like they're doing that now. So I think Now I don't I don't think that has anything to do with the mcs. By the way That's just like farls and gibbs and like, you know, craylo and all those dudes That's them dudes just being good dudes. I wish they were more involved with us Yeah I don't want any drops Drops are the devil Yeah Yeah, I don't know what I listen. That's not my job. I wish it was better I wish I made $10,000 a month off twitch. I really do but You know, I don't know if man will ever get there. I don't know how much of the spectator support is outside of the nerds Really that we and I got to say this because I got to get off But I'm gonna say this since I'm gonna sound like the cheesebar and mornwall But I'd be thinking this all the time just because I don't know If anyone hears this from the mcs I know sometimes you guys feel like what you're doing is Unappreciated and all you do is take shit all the time And it makes you not want to work and it makes you not want to help us out Just know we really do appreciate what you guys are doing. We just want it to be better So please don't try to take this as negativity all the time because I can see on the outside All they do is talk shit. All they say is how bad we are Why should we want to work toward this and that you know, and I understand going to work That might be kind of demoralizing as far as you're not being liked by the community But you are getting a paycheck at the end of the day And all I got to say to them is before I get off just keep working with us try to listen to us And it really is together. We're just a little upset But I feel like it's an easy fix and we just got to get it done and that's what I'll end it with We need some leadership That's what I want I've been trying to get in there because I'm I'm not playing this game no more. I've been trying to help Like I definitely I definitely love to help I've been I've been wanting to help for so long and it's just not happening But it's just certain things that I don't know I wish it had happened because I feel as though a lot of the stuff is easy fixes in my opinion A lot of the stuff is easy fixes and they just need someone who Played the game to tell them I don't think I don't think if I don't think it matters to them, but if it did matter, I'm I'm here We'll go ahead get some rest. I know the Window is coming in. Well, I'm two hours past my Chinese time. I eat Chinese for dinner every night I was supposed to eat it two hours ago. So I don't worry. We back tonight. Wesley been talking crazy. It's time Hey, when you get home, let's run some program because the combine starts at 1 a.m All right. Thanks for having me on though The new goat Michael skimbo, you know saying gene is now number three Number one in our heart still in heat. You know saying so, but It is what it is. Yeah, we honestly I talked to Mike about that like Consistently every other day. So we talk about the mcs. So we know where each other stands. Yeah And it's definitely some things that need to be fixed and like I said stepping away watching everybody go through this Is definitely gives you a different advantage point and seeing everything that that could be done and will be done and the 2k league is like Talk about pressure. That's like We're like the WNBA and the 2k league is like the NBA right now and this is And it's getting worse. It's pretty rough. I don't know if there's a I don't know too, but honestly 2k the way the game plays compared to man It's just so more conducive to that type of team play less draft the team. It's just so much Better honestly for that type of thing. Yeah, we'll get there And you know So that's mad and that's pretty much like I said, I didn't want to do the minnesota club series because I'm going to need something to talk about next week And I want to need to break down some game film that we saw some great games at the minnesota club Actually, we saw one great game and we're going to break that down next week We are like that game You like that final game? Yeah, I like that. All right, but like I said, we We are two hours and 20 and 20 minutes already right and we got to talk about the Philadelphia Eagles Chuck We got to we we need to are we gonna fight? I definitely think we're gonna fight I I definitely think we're gonna fight. I You know, you know how huge you are for fools fan. I am I hate fools. I yes, you do I have always hated fools I just think he may not be the most talented, but he has it It's something he he's not too many people If it's if you're in a room full of 100, it's about six to eight people who have it and He has it in um, uh, he could he could coat it back for this team He's tough. I mean, he's tough as a dog man. All right, and that's something we'd always admire no matter what And he lets it fly man. Yeah, he don't care. He don't care And dude, I remember 20 what do you throw 28 and two picks or 27 and two whatever maybe I'm thinking every time that people brought that up. I'm like, yo, if you're really watching games It should be like 20 20 touchdowns and 12 interceptions. Like he just let that thing fly He just doesn't care but it works in his advantage, man, because he's not overthinking he's Third and eight and he's looking at every looking at jeffreys and he's throwing it up and he's just not caring He's just like go get it jeffrey is go get it. And he definitely makes jeffrey butter Yeah, I I love him man. I I I definitely think we're gonna fight. I was Totally surprised by maddox the way that ball Man, if he can play like that, that stuff doesn't matter. It's about the four in the front That's all football is about of course. It is michael bennett's He is the man He's so underappreciated man. I man he's man because it's such a dog Because if we don't get to the playoffs it's not going to show how much he meant to that line He man that sign that was amazing He don't and you look at him. He just be exhausted. He'd be hurt like he just looked like he just gave every snap But he's just and that that's what makes the that's what made him last year and honestly, that's what's gonna That's what won him the game in los angeles really That's that's the only way they're gonna be able to play defense man because the corners Man, if you don't have rivas or you don't have these superstars out there That's all similar to me dude And that's why I told you man I just want somebody that tackles somebody that fights and competes and that's why I love middle And we don't miss mills a little bit. No, man. How would you say we don't miss mills a lot for the last few weeks? That's that's the truth and I'm not I hate mills. They Miss him a lot. I Until last game where I saw medics Out man, even the games that we won when we beat the giants and we beat the reskins me this time Oh my god, man, like rock corn is just bad or whatever. They're they bad and it's going to be tough this week Mr. Hopkins coming to town Honestly, I I just want to see how our offense Handles that defense. I want to see how I'll tell you this. That's the only thing I'm worried about the best thing They did the other night. They may air down on invisible invisible They they let they man. They did a good job on air down. That's the first game all year. I didn't see aerodon I was invisible and a lot of that goes to the coachman, but then but the Eagles do have A great interior offensive line, but Brooks and Kelsey even with new ski Well, if you want to say the week he was an average guy Kelsey's just I mean, dude, he's been unreal the last last four years or so You know, he started with a bang had like a little low in his play and then just Kelsey's just unreal But I mean that they gotta Minnesota gotta lose one game. That's that's all I think it's gonna happen Call me crazy. I think they're gonna lose Chicago like cousins. I think yeah, I think they're gonna lose in Chicago Chicago needs to still Chicago has to play Chicago has to play because they want they want to wonder they can still They need to buy it and I listen. I just want Chicago Minnesota gotta lose He goes man It's next it's this week to me. They gotta win. It's this week. It's this week I don't want to look past the reskins, but I don't care about the reskins. Put it that way It's this week. It's really this week for sure. Uh, and then It's gonna come down because Seattle probably gonna make it even when they lost to the Niners Which was wild They it's it's They could lose to the chiefs. They got a game. Don't they have a game ahead? Aren't they like eight or eight six right now? I think yeah, they could lose to the chiefs. They play the chiefs this week Yeah, but I think they're gonna win in my opinion. I think they're gonna win But let's say they lose to the chiefs. It's a home game. It's okay. I think they're gonna win But let's say they lose They gotta be Arizona. Yeah, I think they're gonna win one of those two games They're gonna win one of those two games So they'll be 97 but the eagles they got a better chance with them because they lost to every other team that's in the race You know, they can't well, they're not gonna be tied with minnesota. No matter what it's all in minnesota Is it really that's all it is. It's all in minnesota Seattle's not losing too straight And we don't own any top records because we lost every nfc game in the world So we don't own any top records. So they should the eagles should be at least three c really like I Eagles just win one game in there I lose it too straight. No, not to the buccaneers and the giants. They know it was a too straight walk But shoot and then the afc man patreon is gonna have to go on the road, man No, I mean, I think they're gonna be the second seed. I think I'm saying to get to the bowl. They're gonna have to go on the road Eventually No, you don't like Kansas City No, I I just know indy read man. I know something's gonna happen and I know I know Something's gonna happen in the fourth quarter. He gonna he gonna do something I know what's gonna happen. I just know what's gonna happen. I think Kansas City is probably the third toughest place to play in the nfl True behind Seattle and New Orleans. Those two teams had the best home field Then I think it's arrowhead And the pagers look soft Right very soft. I don't think the pagers are good at all I don't think they're good at all, but I've seen kc playing kc and it's like the ravens game They should have lost the ravens game. They lost to the charges in the kc. I think it could happen like I just I just So you would like the pats in kc. I think the charges is the best team in a orc in my opinion I think the charge of the best team in a orc in my opinion the problem with the charges is they're gonna have to be on the Road Unless unless Seattle beats kc this week. I get me if Seattle beats kc this week It could be going through san diego I mean l a go soft place to go through though. It's like, you know, I'm saying it's like that's not really Yeah, that's what I'm saying like it may not have to go through kc, but I I don't know. I don't the only team I feel high but I feel I love the ravens defense I love the charges period And everybody else I don't I don't think much of the texans I don't know. I mean, I haven't watched the texans. I don't know what they got going on. I don't think much of the patriots I don't think much of the courts I really don't think much of the stillers Now the stillers could always a tricky team though because they got the quarterback who Sometimes it's great and other times it's like bro. Like what's up? You all right? Yeah And they still got antonio brown who I'm still taking antonio brown over everybody I don't care. He got to show me a couple years is slowing down before I don't take antonio brown as a bus why I receive him I like hawkins. I'm not gonna lie to you. Yeah, it's it's hard to hop I like antonio brown antonio brown for me. It's still like I I would never argue that I like hawkins I like hawkins over everybody. It price up a brown honestly. I like hawkins Yeah, I was balling for sure, but I mean so I still feel like the stillers still They still got a chance to make a run I don't think the stillers gonna make the playoffs I think they're gonna lose to the saints this week in New Orleans and the ravens going to the division The ravens are sneaky, too But all right They can't get it done with the read option unless they play in elite defense Like you got to put some play with that you got to like being 9 to 6 ball games all the time And they got it Hopefully they get that home that first game at home and it's a nasty day Like just a rainy snowy just nasty day like that But it's definitely interesting. I think it's tight both sides really the NFC But then again, I don't think anybody's going into New Orleans and being in New Orleans Honestly, I don't think the Rams are The Rams are kind of suspect right got the honest truth and this may this may sound crazy because I'm a fan I don't I only see one quarterback going in there and that's for everybody else. I don't deck. No golf. No I think the Bears would honestly the Bears as a team had the best shot Chavisky will throw three interceptions and I don't think no quarterback not named for the NFC Has a chance in New Orleans and that's just not me being a fan. That's just real I think he's the only one that go in there and I care about New Orleans Everyone else. I think I think New Orleans a killer NFC That's just me. That's me being real. I think New Orleans is so soft That I do too, but in New Orleans, it's it's so different. They go They haven't played in the dormant months. They don't have another role game for the rest of the year They got two two home games and they got home full advantage. I don't Unless they play nickels. All right, Kirk Cousins not doing it. Chavisky's not doing it. Dax not doing it Maybe Russell Wilson, but I I don't see it. Thank God for that Dax and Jason Garrett stopped the Cowboys That's what they're man. And I stuck with that. What the hell is going to do? I thought that was I thought that was good and he just proved me so wrong. It's like, yo, he's playing bad Mario Cooper helped the hell out of him. No, he did but still it's still that it's still Like they put up 600 yards and really beat us and and shouldn't be to start to tell you the truth We got cheated. Yeah They put up some of the yards and shouldn't be this and they'll never play that good They shouldn't have won the first game. I'll never played it They just laid down so many times. Yeah I they got beat by the saints what they asked that they just that was a buzz saw between the injuries and But I mean, I feel like the Eagles should have won so many more games Should have been science should be carolina should have been Dallas at least once What the hell they lost to the saints Yeah, they should have lost to the saints. We should have lost to minnesota. Oh my god We should have lost to the bucks. We should have lost minnesota. They should have lost to minnesota They suck but they play better than this. The Eagles was cooking Went fumble to the crib. Yeah, and I was then they fought back a jive fumbled on the intro If they take them two fumbles out minnesota I don't think minnesota's better, but they was better than us that game Tennessee wasn't better than us and Tennessee in the panthers was embarrassed. Yeah, tennessee in the panthers We shouldn't have lost and one of the dollars gave the channel lost like we deserve everything we get They almost try to throw up that saints or the last game last night your double night Yeah, it was 30 to 13. They had a ball in the 10 yard line And why would you throw it? Oh my god, you better all taking these. Why would you throw it? Yeah, that that that opened the door. That was like, uh, we cool. We still have 17 Because even a field goal there Now you're up 20 points. Now they can't kick a field goal. Yeah, they couldn't kick that field goal Everything now that field goal that they kicked made it like all right. It's a little tighter You know what I'm saying? And you want to have to kick that they would they would have went for it It was like a 4 for 15 and it's like that at that time when you play mad as much Once you're up 17 points, you only have one opponent and that's the clock. Yeah, I don't care I don't want to score any more points. I just want to take time off the clock and they went and pass the ball And I'm arguing with bulls haters and I'm like, yeah, it was a bad pass or whatever sure But he should have he should have had that option to pass Yeah, uh, just because I don't I think we misrank right but that's a different subject. We fighting now We got a fight. I don't know what the hell they miss a damn running back On the rate I used to talk about blunt early in the year and I was like man, don't matter that much We miss him because even blunt and then even a guy a guy was a fighter Yeah, we needed those they don't The eagles don't have a single player on the roster that breaks attack No And small what was doing in last game and that's that's the stuff that we missed like that stuff that small What was falling forward and that looked at that that's three four yards away That don't that's not much but hey that's second and six for fools is way better than freaking second and 10 And I just I hate eagles twitter dude. I hate oh eagles twitter. It's hilarious. It's bad Because I don't want to they they think air the next part. They think Jamal Adams is letting out bells He don't ever fall for it. He always go um east to west decent speed though Like he does take an angle from times by why are you trying to take that angle? He actually gets out outside, but He I mean he's a body dude. I miss a guy obviously miss blunt But I think obviously that's the biggest weakness is the running back. We need to run it back man Because that takes so much pressure off quarterbacks But they're gonna fight. I think the place gonna be crazy this weekend. I think it's gonna motivate them and They got jump out man. They got You know me. I'm the I'm the person that a negative eagles fan out for some reason I think I think I think we're gonna make the way us I feel like oh nine or oh eight whatever year Yeah, yeah, that year we were waking up today It's the last game of the year and all Sunday in the playoffs I feel in the nsc championship game in the game with mcnav late down the most in his whole life Yep, that was the eagles should have they should want to superbowl that year That was the game that was the game I was down with mcnav. I I forget for the superbowl and then he did that arizona and I was like six years after I'm done and the crazy thing that always pissed me off about mcnav and I tell you about this Superbowl, yeah, I felt like he had his best game But then he'd do like the four worst passes of his life I didn't mess the whole game up because the other passes like the touchdowns to lj smith and westbrook were just lasers Like and then he was died and then he just do like some of the worst pick that was mcnav I remember that one pass kimmel just threw against little man. It was why that was mcnav. It was like Why why you just missed this whole game up because the pictures could not score in the first half And then the second half we couldn't stop even if the eagles was up three nothing They'd have been cool and they just they did do it so many points and the cardinal game He just sucked him acres him and I was done with him acres that game. It's like I'm done. Yo, I can't do it no more Him acres I'm excited about that. Did you look at any of your lines? Who you betting on? You don't know yet I like the saints Over there still is It's in norlish. Oh, was it how much I think I'll be getting nine points. No, it was lower than nine lower than nine I like it too. I I I love the saints Well, not if it was too low though, then it's fishy I love I love the saints. I I don't think this is gonna compete with them at all. That's in my opinion That's off to play. Yeah Yeah, shoot All right. Well, we've been here for two hours and 40 minutes I know my guys in the back are tired and they want to go home. My guy's cleaning up a computer So I left a lot more stuff to talk about. We'll see if you able to make it here next week We talk about minnesota because I love I love that final game if I could get here I'm definitely it was a crazy final game. I talked to my man. Wolf may hit me up and said I just want to comment on some things you said about the game and I and we talked about it He said I just want to make a name for myself. I said you did good You played a very good player. He was impressive. He was the reason why he lost in my opinion He did some dumb shit. He was the only reason he lost. No disrespect to jayvon. He was the only reason he lost He definitely did some things that were like But yeah, he was unique I loved it. He got he was wild sometimes and a lot of things I I thought like why like yeah Is I love watching people freestyle. Yeah, because when I see people freestyling, I try to think what they're thinking You know and a lot of it made sense in a couple plays heard them and But we'll talk about that when it comes to it. I don't care. We gotta start at nine o'clock. We start nine Whatever it may be. So we're gonna be here in minnesota club series next week because I need to start spreading some of this stuff out Pause and we're gonna so I gotta be able to let me fill up some shows honestly And uh But yeah, I appreciate all y'all coming by we've got to talk to the new gold skimbo with the real gold gene Uh, I got to talk about his performance and uh next week we want to talk about the vikings club series Hopefully the eagles will be eight and seven next week and the vikings will lose to the lions Which isn't out of the realm of possibilities Because that would be a wild thing staffer could staffer could get some bullshit And uh, that should be the plan next week. I mean But that's it man. I appreciate my god gene coming through Talking about michael skimbo and the whole you know, old man new man type of thing that we could talk about for hours Really, that's how it goes. So Please hit the like button. 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