 He's sticking his hand up her a female cow. He can even handle it, you walked off. That's how they get milk. That's how they get milk. That's how they get milk. That's how they get milk. Do we beef? Sometimes. Burgers, sometimes. Everyone says sometimes. That's all the time, bro. It's a little bit, bro. Guarantee you, I set a camera up in a hut. Hello, Florida House in the UK. You're going to be I think we have some here. Disgusting, bro. It's inexcusable, isn't it? Oh, Lord, see him. Oh, f**k him out. Take her, babies. What are you going to do when you leave here today? Watch him down there and blow it. What's going on, bro? You good? Have they given you the lecture, the animal rights lecture yet? You got one from Tash. Have you seen this before? What is it? Are you a vegan, then? No. So you've seen this, and you're still not vegan? Why not? I was for a couple of years. Were you? Yeah. And what happened? No, I lost track. You did it wrong? Yeah, I guess. You lost track or you lost motivation? I just watched your YouTube video. Did you really? Yeah, man. God, now I feel like a failure. Because you're not vegan anymore. So I wasn't good enough. We're just showing people like how animals have their rights violated in each industry for pigs with cows, lambs, chickens, fish. This is a gas chamber. That's what they use in the UK. Most of the pigs killed in gas chambers. Think about 88%. Serious. CO2 gas. You know what's in there? That's what they do. They put it in there. Fizzy gas. Yeah. It causes them suffering and burns their eyes and causes them hyperventilate. Are these Muslims or? Muslims. Wait for Muslims. This is a chicken farm in the UK, bro. Most of the chickens here are factory farm. They'll take them from the factory farm to a Halas slaughterhouse. Put a Halas stamp on them. So it works. We're saying to people, if you don't want to support this, then to live vegan. Because if you're not a vegan, you create a demand for this. I'm a piece of s*** out of here. You're a piece of s*** who eats it. I was like, look at that. Well, I used to do him in 26 years and I started looking into it. I was just mind blown a bit and I was like, what can I do? So I've just been vegan for nearly 10 years now. You don't think this is horrible enough? What animals do you eat now? All of them. Just straight back into the bacon into the beef, into the chickens, into the... Yeah, a little bit. S***, dude. Yeah, I know. And you don't feel bad? Oh, I do, bro. I do, for sure. But you just tuck it away? Yeah, a little bit. I don't know if you care about animals. Do you care about animals? I do. A little lukabata pig here. And I was trying to stab him. Would you be feeling a certain way? I would like... I don't like him for that year. So if you paid me five quid and I stabbed the pig to give you bacon, would you want that bacon? I wouldn't. You know what? I don't eat... I don't eat pig, you know. Are you a Muslim? No, no, no. No, no, you don't eat pork? Do you eat beef? Sometimes. Burgers? Sometimes. Everyone says sometimes. That's all the f*** up. Oh, the f***ing time, bro. A little bit, bro. Everyone goes like, listen to me a little bit, bro. So if you couldn't pay me to f***ing stab a cow right now and make you a burger, why do you pay the shop? Right, that money goes down the supply chain. So your point is for people that buy the food are as bad as the people in the kingdom. So what do you say? We're making an allergy point. I've got a dog farm to sell dog burgers. No one's buying any. Five people come in. They want a dog burger. Bang, I take the dogs out from out the back, start killing them, making the dog burger. Then they go tell five of their friends and then five come back and then I start killing more dogs and making dog burgers. Then I have to breed more dogs into the existence to kill them and make dog burgers. And then all of a sudden there's 50,000 people there. I create dog farms all over the world. So what's going on here? Who's responsible? I mean, if no one bought the f***ing dog burgers, I could just leave the dogs there and they'd have a happy life and whatever. And I'd stop breeding them actually. Maybe I wouldn't make a business out of them. What do you think of this? How did that make you feel watching that? Well, I'm not ignorant towards it. Like, I know what goes on, but I don't exactly know to what extent. When I see this, I realise how bad it is. It's much worse than this. Much worse than this. This is only what we've been able to capture. You can imagine that there's factor of farms all over the UK and all over the world. There's only a limited number, like a very small number of investigators. So we can't be everywhere at once. We can imagine everything that's gone unseen. This is just what activists have managed to capture. Can you imagine what goes on that we don't capture, do? And all these people here make it happen. These places only exist because of the people here. They go into shops and they create the demand. So if you go in the shop and you go, I want something vegan, they replace it with something vegan. Do you want to shop on a burger? They're going to f***ing slaughter a cow. Would you say factory farming is the norm? Yeah, 100% in the UK, yeah, it's the norm. Yeah, especially pigs and chickens, it's a vast majority, like over 90%. But all those animals, like we're animal, you know animal rights, the difference between animal rights and animal welfare? Yeah, yeah. So welfare will be like this kind of treatment. Animal rights are, regardless of their treatment, they should have their rights respected. So that means you can't kill them, even if painless. These animals have been turned into units of production. They're turned into money now. As a Muslim, right? Can't cause suffering to animals, can you? They didn't have factories back when the Hadith were written. They didn't have these factories. They have them now. So things have changed now. You know, taking milk before was one goat in the back to take some of them. Now there's a dairy industry. This can't be halal now, do you know what I mean? Because the animals are being caused suffering and then they're being killed. And in the dairy industry, they're not killed halal. That's an electro-ejaculate. They stick it in the arse of the bull to force him to ejaculate. It's like they rape a man. He's sticking his hand up her arse. It's a female cow to inseminator. He can even handle it, he walked off. That's how they get milk. Then they have a baby. They take the baby because the baby will drink the milk. They want to sell the milk, don't they? And they take her babies. Yeah, man. That's a standard practice in the dairy industry, bro. Standard practice. They can't have the calf drinking the milk that the humans want to steal. So industry. They've only been on the air for a few weeks, man. You know what I mean? Taken from their mum and then killed. Just so the mum can keep the milk flowing. So she has to have pregnancy to keep flowing milk. I found this, this is me here. Found this calf in a bin at a dairy farm. Where's that? UK. They all go to the slaughterhouse, too, the cows, when they don't produce enough milk or they just, they don't become pregnant easily or they get lameness. Whatever it is, they... Been rinsed, mate, clearly. They've been rinsed that much. They can't f***ing produce it. Exactly right. They squeeze everything they want from them and then they kill them and put them in burgers, actually. Their bodies go to, like, second grade cuts. When you see the Halal label, you can never be sure anymore because it's consumerism now. You just see the label, you can't trust it. You don't know how they were killed inside this slaughterhouse. They're supposed to not let animals see each other in that. But they don't. They see each other one by one and get slaughtered. I guarantee you, I set a camera up in a hut, Halal f***ing slaughterhouse in the UK, you're gonna be f***ings. I think we have some here. Disgusting, bro. What's the worst thing you've seen in this slaughterhouse? Screaming. Cow screaming? I don't know, they're gonna die up this way. They're not something bad, they can smell blood and all that, eh? Yeah. It's terrible. It's been a situation. If we don't want it done to us, why do human beings think it's justified to do it to the animals just to eat them when we don't have to be... We don't have to eat them. We don't need to. I don't know what to say, bro. Listen to this, bro. We don't need to do this to animals now, even if you think the perfect Halal method, right? When an animal has their throat cut, they're scared. And then they're breathing, trying to, they're suffering for about a minute before they actually die. Back then, you didn't have stun guns. You didn't have a way to do it quicker. And I'm sure if there was an even more humane way back then, they would be doing that, but there was no technology there. True. Now we have technology, we have... We have alternatives now. And now we have vegan meat. Now we have vegan option. How about yourself? Do you think about what happens to animals? Have you ever seen this stuff before? I don't like to watch it. I want to go vegan, but I just... I don't care. Well, he was vegan like two years before he threw it in the towel. Why did you stop? You just got lazy. Conditioning. Everyone else is doing it. Yeah? I guess so. You fall back into the crowd. That's what can happen. Society, social setting. You've got to stay strong. You've got to stay focused and principled. So if I had an animal here right now, chicken, it's that little chicken. Do you eat chicken? I used to eat heaps of chickens. I feel really bad about it. But I said, I'm going to cut this chicken's head off for you right now so you can have like some fried chicken. And just give me five bucks or five pounds, sorry. Would you do it? No. Why not? You do that anyway. I know, you just think about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's the disconnect. But that's what you've got to think, OK, I'm going in to buy this. What happened to this bird in order for me to buy it? OK, they're raising a factory farm. They're life... Their existence is suffering because they grow so big they can't support their own body weight. They get thrown into crates, trucked off to slaughter, gassed and killed. Yeah. You know? That's what happens. So you create the supply chain. You buy the chicken, they replace it with more chickens, you know what I mean? Over the course of your life. Sure, man. It's definitely something I would have to think about, re-evaluate. No more thinking, you already know. It's doing now. Do you know why we talk to the public about this? Obviously, you create awareness in that, but we want them to stop funding these industries, basically, and not just putting money into it, just creating the demand chain where they pull stuff off the shelf and then they slaughter the animals and replace that stuff on the shelf. It's got to come from somewhere. Without consumers, they don't need to replace it and they don't need to do this to animals to replace it. It's quite strong demand. 100% it is. This is a supply and demand. I don't do this for no reason. The supply can influence demand, but mostly if we forget enough people like yourself who care to change the demand, it'll make us a lot easier to get animal rights if we've got enough people on board. You've been in this slaughterhouse, most people here, I've been here, so they wouldn't want to, you know, fill up the conception, really. Most people wouldn't want to pay for that, eh? Do you reckon? Definitely not that. No, no, if they had to actually experience this slaughterhouse with the cows screaming and bellowing, and then they'd just be put off meat, yeah, most people, not all people, some people don't care, obviously, but... You didn't put me off meat, that one bit, because I'm a bit like... Are you disconnected from that experience and when you buy the meat still? Exactly. You don't buy meat and think of that straight away? No. Yeah, see, when I see meat, I think of that. There are plenty of people out there who kind of know what's going on, and they care to some extent, but they don't care enough to stop eating meat. Apathy's one of the biggest enemies to the animals, because the ones that just walk past, that will never change and they don't care to change, they don't care enough to change, they're the ones that... Probably will be the reason that this industry stays in business, but if we get enough people on-site, then we might be able to get rights for animals, and then it doesn't matter what the apathetic people do, the animals will have rights to protecting them, but that's a long way off. Oh, there is progress being made. For example, when I was a kid, I would never see vegan food in supermarkets. Now it's everywhere. It's everywhere. What do you eat, then? Everything you eat, bro. Vegan chicken, vegan burgers, vegan, whatever I want, man, I don't care. But I'm not eating that shit. I eat a lot of tofu, to be honest with you. Is that any good? You know what, I've been wanting to try that. I'm a lisp, you know? If you get it and you marinate it in some sweet, salty, you know, whatever, make it taste good, it's like a vessel. It's like you wouldn't eat a raw chicken breast, would you? Yeah. So tofu, you've got to flavour it up. I ate a lot of tofu. It's good full of protein, calcium, healthy, but we've got a lot of vegan burgers, vegan ice cream, whatever you want, pizza. I don't eat anything I want to have, basically. If I want to eat healthy, are you healthy? If I want to eat junk food, last night we ate at Wagga Mamas. This morning we got sausage, cheese, muffins, whatever we want, bro. I had a vegan toast in the other day, actually, and pasta. Yeah, right, you know? It's not bad. I don't like pork, so I thought I'd try it. I actually like it. You mean the vegan bacon one? The ham and cheese one. Ham and cheese one. Yeah, the vegan one. Yeah, yeah. See? And no one needs to get... You know, like I'm... I don't want to... There's no killing there. No stabbing of the animals. What are you going to do when you leave here today? Well, I was actually... Interestingly, I was looking for somewhere to eat, and I was looking for a vegan restaurant. Let me show you. Okay. So on here, use that. You'll find vegan restaurants near you, or vegan options. Now, you've got vegan options at Subway, Greggs, McDonald's. If you want something unhealthy, or you've got wagon mummies. So... I did look on this app, but it was all junk food, so I might go to one of these places. I'm watching down the road. But you... You don't have to, bro. It's not mandated. So... In Islam, it's not mandated. And I'm a non-Muslim. I'm not trying to tell you... You make your own... You can... You're any answer to God. You make your own decision, but I'm just... I'm just being a vessel for you to... You know, I'm not trying to just show in here, bro. Like, because at least Islam has allowed... Because... Compassion to animals. And what's the most... You're going to ask yourself that question. What's the most compassionate thing I could do? And how do I know? Because here, you're living in... You don't... You don't raise your own hand. You don't see shit, bro. What are you thinking of doing, brother? I'm probably going to eat beef or something like that. You know, if you go to the shop, like, because an egg and dairy... If you go on the store, you can eat vegan, brother. You can go... You can look for vegan shit. If you see vegan and it doesn't have alcohol in it, you know it's allowed. You don't have to feel certain way. Now, God, if God... God created us, right? He gave us a conscience, too. God created this here. Sometimes you've got to look to here. And if it feels wrong, then obviously that's your... Your God-given conscience telling you something, yeah? And you don't have to feel guilty when you eat the vegan food. It's because you're trying to do the most compassionate thing. Yeah, it creates an impact still. I'm going to think about my choices. Cheers, brother. It's good to talk to you, mate. Do you think you'll be going to try to live consistently vegan from now on? I can't promise that, to be honest. But I can try. I can try. Well, they really need you to... Like, obviously, you don't walk around kicking dogs and that because of what happened to the dog if you did. And when you aren't vegan, you're responsible for these animals going to be slaughtered on your behalf. That's what's happening. The more demand you make, so you go chicken. You go two breasts, three breasts. That's a whole chicken. One leg, two legs, a wing. How many animals over the course of a year had to go through this and be slaughtered for yourself? Hads up, doesn't it? Hads up. Especially over the course of your life. The people that end up working in these places, it can psychologically damage them, too. I've heard of people who, like, it really affects them, right? Yeah, it's like an Auschwitz. It affected the soldiers, didn't it? Which is one of the reasons that he started using gas chambers. He put the gas in there and had this connected before. They were shooting and putting them in holes and it was causing them trauma. In the same way, this atrocity, even though the animals are the primary victims, people are having to work at these places because it's the best job available to them. They're getting psychological distress, PTSD, perpetrator-induced, traumatic stress. All to serve people who are a product that they don't even actually need. They need plants. Harming people, harming animals, destroying the world we live on. It's not justifiable no matter which way you look at it. Yeah, it's not. It's not extrusionary. It's good talking to you, mate. It's a good talking to you. You know, when you walk away, no one can tell you what to do. You control yourself through your own conscience. I can't follow you around. And even if I did, it's completely legal. I'm not here to... All I'm here is giving people the power. If no one gave a sh**, the world will never change. So basically, individual power is where it's at and collective individual power because you can follow the crowd or you can decide to do something different and follow your own way and say, what do I think is right or wrong in my heart? Is it really that hard? Can I make a difference here? Can I make small changes? Can I be a vegan? And then can I show other people this and try to change other people? And then you're making... You're multiplying your impact. It's inexcusable, isn't it? Nothing comes close even by a mile or a million miles. It's where most of the suffering and killing takes place on Earth. It's constant, isn't it? It's constant. And it's everywhere. I'll try. All right, brother. Take care, my friend. Take care.