 Here's what it is. If you look at the earth and you look at a person or anything giving birth, it's much the same. Like I think people are very married to keeping the mammalian garden party alive. You know like we have to save the resources and all this stuff and it's true we want to keep a beautiful healthy planet that's sustainable for future generations and for all of us. But at the same time all this is happening for a reason and we all have a role to play in this and it's not by mistake okay. So through every birth there is you know the stretching of organs the shedding of blood screaming and it's like if you didn't if you've never seen a birth before and you turned a corner and you saw it you would lose your mind. You'd think you have a serious medical emergency but if you have your wits about you and you know what's going down you're like oh this is how new life comes into existence. This is how it's always been and it happens on every level. So the chicken egg has to crack in order for the for the chick to emerge. The placenta has to be torn and shed and torn as under and that's exactly what's happening in the earth. You know the earth is like a giant egg and we are breaking the shell and you know the placenta is opening and new consciousness is emerging and all of us are playing our role in that. It's like this divine ballet. Beautiful. Someone's opinion may contradict yours. Where's my friend Allen? It's all about your perspective. Who are we and what is the nature of this reality? 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Boom what's up everyone welcome to simulation I'm your host Alan Sokian. We are on site in the beautiful Topanga California. We are now going to be talking about conscious evolution. We have Umberto Braga joining us on the show. Hey Al thanks for having me. I'm so pumped for this conversation Umberto. Thanks for coming on. Yeah we're going to rock this for those who don't know Umberto's background. He's a writer an artist an entrepreneur focused on conscious evolution healing awakening and bringing creative solutions to uplift humanity and you can find the links in the bio below to his work. Alright Umberto let's start things off with one of our favorite questions to ask our guests. What are your thoughts on the direction of our world? Yeah so I think the first thing that people go to when we think about the world is just how crazy things are and how dark it is and there is that but I really see it as a catalyst for awakening that's what's happening it's like a pressure cooker that's making people forced to look at their own shit to wake up like you have to there's no way and I you know while there's a lot of pessimism I'm actually really optimistic likewise yeah because never before in history have we had so many people looking into self-work going deeper into things um and at a more you know exponential pace with the internet a lot more people have access to healing possibilities resources and so that to me signifies that you know all this stuff whether it's you know the political stuff or industrial um civilization that's depleting entire ecosystems like there's a reason why this is happening and I think from a broader perspective when you pull away from the subjective you know the desire to save the trees and the bees and the whales and the snails and all that stuff you have to look back at the greater intelligence and say why is this happening well I think the only consistent the only constant through all of evolution is the evolution of consciousness like it's growth I mean from dirt to single celled organisms to you know fish to man like it the earth wants consciousness to evolve that's the only constant so all this craziness that's going on is meant to advance that project of being that's really what it's all about and so I'm really excited because I think we have a lot of great potential opening to us there's a lot of dangers too we have to watch out for but you know I think that there's a divine intelligence working through everything so I think that there's a fair amount of providence yeah it's it's interesting that you call it a pressure cooker I like that as well that there's there's now so many pressures being put on us to evolve our own consciousness and there's so many pockets of consciousness uplifting that's currently happening in all different types of modalities you listed self-work as this that's such a critical one and that's if not the most critical one and there's so many ways to do self-work and then that's kind of like all these different modalities are opening up which is awesome and I like how you also put it in the scale of like deep time that ever since the beginning of life on this rock that it's just been going towards complexity evolving towards complexity and evolving towards propagating more consciousness for consciousness to have more meaning more creativity for more connection more expression all those things yes yes yes for to be able to understand source better and yeah I want to I want to ask you about that I want to ask you about that next I want to ask you a question along the way which is um what would you say is a main principle for us to embody to really push the envelope of our own conscious evolution I mean that's it's a hard question to answer because everyone's path is so different you know like when you say us that people are so vastly different in their levels of being that it's hard to give a a one-size-fits-all for everyone to do um I mean if I had to choose one thing I think it would just like learning to be yeah just be yeah can you I mean I there's a person who I really loves his name is Philip Shepard yeah we are a month show we love him phenomenal I love Philip and he has a really great way of talking about embodiment and you know how with yourself can you be yeah and how much of the world can you take in not just with your your eyes and your ears and your thoughts which are constantly either projecting into the future or comparing from the past but just being with the breath yeah being present and then from that point then when you're interacting with other people you're not taking their you know anything that's offensive from them you're not taking it personally because you see it that is disproportionate to the moment it's from their projections from their wounding and you find a greater expansive place of being to hold the world in you know it's not you're not so against it all you know and I've learned that from my own past I had a really rough childhood so this isn't just me living in Topanga in Los Angeles some bougie whatever like it's taken me a long time to get here through a lot of horrible stuff and that's been one of the biggest graces for me is being able to just embody that being and just be with my experience and other people's and to hold it yeah that's a that's a critical point of self-work is to learn how to just be and that is also actually really conducive to our own divine communion with source the more that we just be the more we can tap into things that are a little bit more ethereal than just this using language and sociability which is what we're usually hyper conditioned to to do in every moment of time that we have a spare moment of time that we have yeah walk us through that journey though and some of the things as much as you'd like to share yeah yeah um well I mean just to give you the quick I don't want to go into this like huge Oprah Winfrey moment like it all started when I was two yeah no uh so I was my mom was born deaf and my father was from Brazil he was very abusive to her my mom had taken me away when I was three and she had a very traumatic childhood she passed that childhood on to me with a lot of abuse in many different ways so I grew up with complex post-traumatic stress disorder which I didn't know about until like three years ago I'd say so what wound up happening is that I've just been going through this process of stripping away the layers of armor and conditioning and my process has kind of looked like ever since I was young I knew that there was something wrong with the world and I always had questions you know even when I was little like I would look up at the stars and it's not even just like oh what are those but it's like this feeling like there's something looking back at me and there's something out there there's more what is it and I could feel like this this pull and you know I think one of the best one of the best symbolisms for my childhood is I used to have this this hobby of breaking open rocks like just digging up rocks plain looking rocks and looking inside for the crystals and that's kind of what I do with my life I smash things open to look for the treasure inside that's what I've been doing ever since and you know and mostly the thing I've been smashing is myself and you know obviously that's uh been that's opened up a lot of doors because then you get in I got into spirituality psychedelics um which blasts open a lot of doors then you know getting deeper into esotericism like Gurdjieff, Moravia, Hermeticism, Gnosticism and all that and going much much deeper and yet while still being inundated by the new age scene here in Los Angeles which is very distorted spirituality and so trying to find some equilibrium and compassion through all of that and not letting the ego come in like you guys don't know what you're talking about but trying to understand like okay this is where they're at everyone awakens in their own time it's part of the process and you have to honor that and meet them where they're at instead of saying you need to get up here and understand you know so that um through the process of going through all that stuff um I got deeper into the emotional work when I started reading about psychopaths and power like just studying about psychology and like okay why are the people in power doing this oh they're psychopaths okay the psychopathy has taken over corporations and banking and it's all insane but then in the process of reading about psychopathy uh I learned about things like narcissistic wounding yeah and like childhood wounding and reading it in every page I'm like fuck this is me and just realizing that there was so much in myself that needed to be taken care of and then seeing it in everyone else me too yeah and just like there's so much that needs to be loved and so much that needs to be brought to light yeah and that's and I realized like even through the process of you know I've been abducted by extraterrestrials along the way like that's a whole other thing damn and realizing through studying a lot of work up in the extraterrestrial phenomenon uh that all of it comes down to clearing out your own stuff and healing it like yeah there's there's the knowledge aspect but if unless you clear this out you're always going to be a vector for attack yes okay so there's a couple aspects to the journey the first one is that it's it's interesting that you have the same sort of of uh story arc that a lot of other people that we sit down with have that are really deeply aware of their conscious evolution which is that they found their greatest treasures on the other side of their traumas and that they really had to go through that process of deep serious reflection looking in the mirror about themselves and understanding themselves who they are um who their parents were how they became who they were today and then doing that process of healing and integrating and feeling divine and finding out what is my purpose here what is my role and pursuing that with great vigor and then it's also interesting that um the people that you were listing that you were that you were studying and you know Gersh if there's just so much of this that's now made more commonly available with the democratization of information technology that we can just more so access it access the signal more easily but there's also a lot of noise that we were giving this example of the sometimes we look at new age spiritual things and we're like okay like I guess there's different ways you know to yeah there's some truth to that I guess but oh yeah yeah yeah and and it's and you gotta you know like you said you're very careful with not you know with not saying that this is the right way and whatnot uh at the same time that you know that there are and you've seen it in yourself and you now see it in other people but you see how people awaken you see their processes you see there's a deep psychopathy that exists in social in certain people and how it can actually be healed and we can live with a more loving more peaceful healed society and make it easier for children who are born into the world to access their own divine communion and actualization and bringing their gifts forward but that requires us to do this long process of our own self work as well as building that social fabric that we all know is possible yeah yeah okay let's do um more on the connection to source what has been your connection with all that is my connection to all that is that's a big question I guess I've always felt like there's a force guiding me and and for a long time I used to think like is this like is this ego to think that I'm special or something like that but no I feel like we all have for people who I think there's some people who come here with a mission let's put it that way right they call them you know wanderers or star seeds or whatever you want to call them and I think that for myself my relationship has always been that I have a purpose and as I started getting into astrology and human design and numerology then things started popping up like oh it's it that's what it says in my chart and like it's there they're there they're there and I started to piece the the puzzle together you know a little bit by little bit and um my relationship has been one primarily of trust for the most part and that's been a big lesson because it's trust now before it used to be rage I used to be so pissed off and because of all the trauma and all the injustices in the world and like you know I always thought of myself as okay we're part of God sure yeah and love and light and yada yada yada but that's what we that's what we come from that's what we'll return to right because objectivity embraces all things it holds all things with love and grace and and so that's fine but I'm here in the subjective process and I'm fucking pissed off like I have all this childhood rage and all these things are happening everyone's asleep so for a long time I was very vitriolic to people and very like you know light things on fire conversationally like if you don't see the truth I'm gonna break you I'm gonna shatter your paradigm fuck you you're getting the heavy truth right now end of story or get the fuck out that's the way I was and I saw that as like being the righteous sort of truth and I think in some circumstances like that energy is very helpful but doing it surgically and with tact yes and with compassion that's critical that's the that's the part that I've kind of integrated into it skillfully planting the seeds right yeah and then watering them and having the other the person go home and water them themselves right yeah and so I feel like you know what's interesting I for a long time I had this this pressure and this goes back to the trust thing with the divine like I had this pressure like oh my god we're running out of time and resources and what's humanity going to do and I realized you know I can't save the world and there's a part of me that would really love to you know I think we all want to on some level because we care so much you know but there's a certain amount of like okay this is all part of an unfolding process through a wisdom that's greater than ours yes that we can ever fathom and we have to trust the process and trust ourselves as long as we're aligned with you know divine purpose and awakening and healing and all those things that align us with truth yes then the rest will unfold as it should yes yes so the more that we consciously evolve ourselves and then have that divine force that's channeling through us to be a conscious creator on in the world and we surrender to that process and we let that force drive us that that forces greater than ourselves the more it feels like we are actually in a communion and not ego driven I want to ask a question this has been one of my favorite ones to recently ask but how do you decide during your process of conscious evolution when you have like this this option you know you're gonna write or you're gonna work on your art for four hours or you're gonna go on a hike for four hours how do you know which one is the right choice for you where do you like feel that intuition that type of stuff how do you know how you're being guided by form um yeah I just go with what I feel I just and where do you feel it I you know what it is it's like it's a feeling of epiphany interesting you know what I mean like I don't try to force things like if I'm gonna work obviously I'm gonna sit down and put the time into it but not because like I feel like oh god I have to do this yeah because you want to unless it's a day job yeah but that's like I'm talking for the passion like it comes in emerges from me like I have a passion for writing I have a passion for creating and touching others yeah and seeing them like ignite and become enlivened and enlightened and I love that and it makes me just overwhelmed but you know I can go on a hike anytime you know so if yeah if I've been letting my ass pancake on a seat all day and like well I could go on a hike if I'm still in the flow it's like okay I'll get up and I'll do a little bit of yoga or qigong and I'll get into my body for a little bit and walk around but you know I'm gonna stay here stay in the zone I'm gonna embrace that okay and then how about does it feel like everything that's unfolding this grand creation that's unfolding does it feel like it's a big artistic expression of god or source does it feel like we're all different like paint strokes on the canvas or instruments that are being played in the symphony yeah I think that's one way to look at it I think you can look at it from the artistic perspective you can look at it from you know a chemist perspective like we're all different chemical elements coalescing and some of us are catalysts some of us are bases you know and it's you can look at it from different analogies yeah and really what it is is here's what it is if you look at the earth and you look at a person or anything giving birth it's much the same like I think people are very married to keeping the mammalian garden party alive you know like we have to save the resources and all this stuff and it's true we want to keep a beautiful healthy planet that's sustainable for future generations and for all of us but at the same time all this is happening for a reason and we all have a role to play in this and it's not by mistake okay so through every birth there is you know the stretching of organs the shedding of blood screaming and it's like the if you if you didn't if you've never seen a birth before and you turned a corner and you saw it you would lose your mind yeah you think you have a serious medical emergency but if you have your wits about you and you know what's going down you're like oh this is how new life comes into existence yeah this is how it's always been and it happens on every level so the chicken egg has to crack in order for the for the chick to emerge the placenta has to be torn and shed and torn asunder and that's exactly what's happening to the earth you know the earth is like a giant egg and we are breaking the shell and you know the placenta is opening and new consciousness is emerging and all of us are playing our role in that it's like this divine ballet beautiful yeah yeah now i love the analogies the chemistry one the the egg that's cracking open the chick emerging now you know i think another good question here that we discuss quite a bit is that there seem to be forces that are at play that are in the sense you've you've written about this the matrix control system it seems as though there is evil and evil serves its purpose in many ways what do you how do you see good and evil and how do you see malevolent forces at play on what looks like and feels like a chess board or a game board that is planet earth and trying to maybe take control of that chick that's cracking from the egg yeah so at its core like if you really boil it down to like what is good and evil i would say that good is truth and freedom evil is deception and control trying to control others and it's really comes down to objectivity versus subjectivity like embracing the divine and what is or trying to control everything and trying to bend it to your will which is essentially trying to get into a stare down contest with the universe like you're not going to win so objectivity always wins so get on the right side of life get on the side of objectivity because the subjective the evil part is going to be a losing game no matter what that's just the end of story and then how do you how do you see what's at play on the as like this this board game that's on the planet do you do you feel as though there are you know off off world forces that are coming at play through us as channels oh 100% okay so and then tell us about your relationship and um with that yeah so i've seen UFOs consistently since i was a kid and your abduction as well so teaches about that too yes yeah so i was abducted when i was 28 27 and i woke up in a dream and i was so basically i don't know if you want me to walk you through the whole story i'll give you the little the short rundown but i was walking through this mental asylum and i was just touching this uh bathroom curtain and i pushed open and there was this black spider that came down and bit my left arm but i felt it on my right arm so i knew i was sleeping like oh i don't want to be here let me wake up and i you know forced myself to wake up and when i woke up i was laying down on a table and there was just this ambient lighting i didn't know where i was and have you ever been on the ride called the gravatron and a circus where like you're up against the world gravity and i was trying to look around and see what's happening and i couldn't move my neck so i had to do a bicep curl those are crazy i forgot what i think there's a um an actual medical terminology for it when you're you're you're physically like you said that the circus gravatron when you're just being pushed like you keep commanding yourself to want to move but you can't right and you're in a dream state and it's really uh it kind of like hurts your spirit because you're like i have completely lost physical motor control yeah which is terrifying yeah and yeah i think there's there's one thing called sleep paralysis where you know that so you don't you know when you're having a bad dream you don't run out of your bed and whack up against the wall but this is something different and i did a bicep curl and i put my hand underneath my head and i forced my head up and when i did there were two gray extraterrestrials i came out of the darkness and i just remember thinking holy shit it's happening to me this is real like i knew it was real but you don't know how real it is until like you have that like heaving sickness in your stomach of oh my god they're right there and i remembered at that moment carla turner who is this famous ufologist who was saying that one of the greatest tools that a person has during the point of abduction is anger like use your anger that's willpower because really it's about conscious willpower and focus and anger is fantastic at that so what i did is i just thought like you fuckers abducted me like you kidnapped me and how dare you know what i mean and i just got so livid that i just fought to get up as hard as i could and i started you know pushing myself up towards them and then the gravity just increased so hard that it slammed me back on the table and then another gray came right over my head by this close like a foot away from me and big almond black eyes and i just started falling asleep and i couldn't stay awake but in my head i was like i'm still here you can't like you can do whatever like you're doing whatever you can but i'm still here you're never going to touch me i want to get out of here i want to wake up now and i woke up and it was like three something in the morning and at the time i like looked outside and there's nothing around okay i went back to bed and mind you at the time i was in uh bodywork school so i had no nails right or anything like that and i was fully clothed nothing sharp around the bed but when i woke up to get dressed i had claw marks on my body and i had a triangular cut out of the back bernhard gunther who's my good friend i showed him this too and he's like holy god like there was no way like it was like animal claw marks and there's a puncture wound right here dead center so yes there are malevolent forces out there all that to say there are many malevolent forces out there but just like the way we feed on chickens and yes you know vegetables and like we manipulate them for our life feeds on life life yeah yeah and if you have weak points if you have spiritual fragmentation you open up your you are a vector yeah so yeah there are definitely dark forces out there but ultimately they are just opportunities to awaken right like they're just challenges in front of us like okay you're faced with an obstacle how are you going to shift your blueprint your beliefs your abilities and integrate that into your life to get around it you know what i mean to use it to your advantage because you can use those things to either like anchor you down like oh this is so hard and there's so much oppression in the world or you can use it to your advantage and use it as fuel like the anger thing you know like i will not let this get me down i'm gonna be better than this i'm gonna be bigger than this i have a greater purpose than this that sort of thing you know yes yes i want i want to become more open and have society become more open to hearing stories involving extraterrestrials and what what can occur from abductions what what is actually going on in this process of the physical body going anywhere is it just the spirit that's going somewhere what is what are these processes like what are what are the entities attempting to do with that all these all these questions and so i would just like to open up more dialogue around what is in many ways it's it's esoteric and it's also just like it's against the normal path of thinking like we're not talking about these things on mainstream media so what about the relationship between what's unfolding with creation and what role free will plays in that versus determinism so i think that when most people think of free will they they don't understand that everything exists in relationship okay nothing exists in a vacuum so therefore what is free will you know what i mean because if you exist with something else there's always that relationship so that's a constraint on your will whether it's you know gravity or you know what i mean like down to the molecular level there's always something if you look at even quantum physics like every molecule affects the other so i think that when it comes to free will the best we can do is bypass certain universal laws you know you look at astrology for example right and these are cosmic forces and let's use that as one example there's many of them there are many cosmic forces that are at play and whether or not we're conscious of them dictates whether or not we fall under their control or we can bypass them whether it's from other people you know like if there's a beautiful woman coming on to you and yet you have a deadline on a project and this woman is trying to seduce you but you're aware of like oh you know what this is the matrix coming at me because they don't want me to finish this project i'm going to step aside for a moment and just let that be because i this is more important and there's no future here even though my lower impulses want me to pursue this yeah that's one of those things like the matrix works through other people um and free will only comes when we are conscious of the way that those forces work through us interesting because we can bypass those forces and play with it it's the unseen forces that really dictate how much free will we have the less spiritually fragmented we are the more free will we have and the more spiritually fragmented we are the less free will we have correct the more we're kind of driven around like puppets yeah yeah interesting and then is the what would you say are like the most common common you were giving this example of this the sexual proclivity that's maybe one of these most common matrix control forces that come in to try and vector people off of spiritual awakening or being in service to others yeah so what what are these other vectors that you think are most relatable that you feel um i think that this the search for significance for people like people say ego but i would say the search for personal significance like you look at instagram and social media just in general nowadays and everyone wants to be seen and it's all for superficial reasons instead of deep meaningful contributions yeah that would equate to because people want to feel connection but it's very hollow and so it's the pitfall of taking these inherent needs which we all have we all have you know human needs but distorting them and so there's the lust there's the connection there's the significance there's the vanity as well so there's a lot of aspects to ego that we have to look out for even the connection to god can be a trap itself like i want to i want to be spiritual you know what i mean yeah and people try to shoot right up the top of the mountain and they you know even they take a lot of psychedelics and they think that that's going to make them more conscious but they don't have the foundation underneath so it's like sticking a bottle rocket up your butt and then shooting up to the sky and you hang out there for a second but then you have to come crashing down eventually and ultimately i think what it comes down to is just doing the fundamental work and then you will you know build the proper foundation and all those things will naturally emerge like if you love yourself then loving others will emerge if you see the beauty in all things and you will see your own beauty you know it's it's that sort of that is that's how you get past the pitfalls so there's a lot of nuances lots of little things in there yeah i write about all of these i try to attack them one at a time just trying to clear out the the debris from it because there's a lot of stuff even down to like having kids you know and like my role as a parent and yeah needing love from other people it's it's multifaceted yeah this idea of like i want spiritual awakening in five minutes but i took like over 10 years to learn language it's like come on like let's be real it's going to be a forever journey to spiritual awakening absolutely now do you feel like we're all when we all come into the world did we do you feel like we came in as spirit to meet the body and then we came in with a mission and that earth is like our school that we're here achieving that mission is that kind of how you view it or how do you view it i think everyone comes in with a different mission some people like there's there's esoteric literature about how not everyone has a soul some people are recently incarnated from the animal realm right where people are more defined by the herd and by their lower impulses you know you see people like they they cling to society and government and authoritarian structures and religion because they need to be part of this collective and that's how they identify themselves with these you know external reference points there's other people who can see through that and they have an inner magnetic center that's you know this is who i am this is truth this is what's real not that damn this is all fleeting so not everyone is the same not everyone comes into this world with the same construct and by the way not everyone goes to the same place afterwards either so that's a whole another conversation so yeah i think ultimately yes spirit or soul meets the flesh here to learn lessons i also feel that some people come here when they are more advanced to fulfill a purpose and fulfill a role and there's this inner knowing and the matrix especially goes after people with that because they want to shut them down because they don't want them to awaken to awaken and awaken others because that you know that ruins the game then they lose their food source to feed on people energetically so they need to keep everything down and if anyone pops up and starts to awaken they're like oh put the forces on him you know it's like neo in the matrix when the woman in red walks by yeah you know you have to they try to distract you yes yeah and then you gave this example of we of a of a spirit potentially incarnating from the animal realm from the previous life and that having maybe more of a tendency to need a government or a religion or something but then there's also this example of what well what happens you know post-death then you we're going to walk us down that tell us about your thoughts regarding that sure so i think that people with more advanced souls go you know onward to the higher densities which is again another big topic of you know consciousness and how it evolves using a certain density model but i think that if you don't have a magnetic center to your soul if you haven't done self-work if you are completely or primarily identified with external constructs then when you die that's all gone and then so are you you return back to the spirit pool of prime conscious you know conscious matter of just plain spirit like everything has a spirit the grass has a spirit that cat has a spirit you know everything has a spirit but it doesn't have a magnetic soul that's unified so different people you know they can either just go back to that spirit pool and return back to the primordial essence of what is or if they are a soul that's forming then they can slowly congeal their identity and their inner knowing or they can go back and you know just reincarnate somewhere else with the mission there's a lot of different possibilities okay and then what's the ultimate teleology of the species what's the purpose of the human experiment is it that we are part of this divine creation and that we are having to figure out how to level up consciousness meanwhile there is that evil that's purposely there to make it more difficult along the way and that this is part of source having a beautiful expression of itself and us communing with it is that kind of like this ultimate is it for meaning and for creativity to get expressed more in the world yeah i think that i mean that's a beautiful way to put it first of all i definitely think that's part of it and i think another part of it is just learning to ultimately when it comes to the greater purpose of things we're here to evolve consciousness like we said but it's in a specific way we have technology like the internet that's coming through we're basically learning to connect with each other but we can go two ways we can go one technologically which is artificial which serves a purpose but we also have the organic way which we have clairvoyance and psychic ability clear cognizance uh an enter gnosis which a lot of esoteric esoteric teachings write about which is you know awakening the interconnection and i've had this before with lucid dreaming where i've been i've witnessed things that happened around the world and i'd call my friend the next day and say hey i had a dream about you and this is what happened in the dream and they said oh my gosh that actually happened to me last night and so it's those sort of things where we don't need technology there's an organic technology within us yes and we can awaken that not just to connect but also to heal ourselves yes and to just become more you know again connected and with ourselves with the world with others and yeah it's just remembering and learning what we can be and who we truly are mm-hmm yeah i love the biological inherent intelligence that's right here and that when we externalize the the divine communion to these appendages and technologies that then it makes civilization less stable and ushers potentially in collapse dynamics versus coming from within it's easier to find that love that peace that harmony with nature i want to i want i want you to talk about this because we're we're also it is getting over our setting a little bit so yeah you have um guide true is coming out in the fall of of this year and i would love for you to teach about what is guide true and let's talk about it sure so guide true first of all it's going to be an online wellness search platform that basically takes people through a personal assessment that allows them to chart their progress in terms of their wellness and it also custom matches them with practitioners of all types for whatever they need and their content and so it serves both the members and the practitioners as well so i don't know if you've ever tried to get like to find a therapist it's like dating it's really hard you spend so much time and money and energy and it's just it becomes so daunting for a lot of people that they just say forget it i'm just gonna you know pop open a beer or smoke something and they don't even go with it because it's just too much work well guide true is going to be a way for people to connect with the resources they need for free and they're going to be able to get them on their own terms so they're going to be audio visual written resources they're going to be able to connect for free with the practitioners and i think it's a great way for people who are practitioners to be seen by the right people as well sincere people and they're going to be able to get passive income from their content on the platform yeah and they're going to be able to get the practitioners or the the members information too so it cuts down on the intake process so it's a way to expedite healing on every level for whatever your level may need yeah yeah that's huge that's huge it's it's also the facilitation of conscious evolution through a platform that is itself consciously evolved in doing things with the deeper ethos that is not profiteering driven yeah but that is driven by being in service though there's this massive there's a couple other ones out that are really interesting wisdom we had boas go on on our show we really like his platform over 500 000 people are using right now it's an Israeli company they did a match matching people based on being able to learn from others wisdom so if somebody has went through something that you're currently going through that you'll get matched into talking to them about it and stuff like that there's so much potential for guide true and for all these other ones that are popping up because they basically are going to be the the the it's in a sense it's like the the tinder of of uh of spiritual uh connecting towards towards our conscious evolution path just yeah just be able to find out where where where can i go next who can i talk to next how can i get the resources i need to do that conscious evolution process also joyous hearts another really interesting one he's doing i am and we are which is gamifying um know thyself in the in the in the north star path and so it's also about that conscious evolution process beautiful these are good partners that we could let's explore let's see what we can do about that i love it i love it what about um and i'm excited to promote it too the link's going to be in the bio for that everyone um so do check that out now do you feel like we're in a simulation i think perception is a simulation ultimately yeah we are but that doesn't mean it's necessarily false i think there's a lot of truth to be found in that as well it's just interpretation what do you think is the most beautiful thing in the world the most beautiful thing in the world i it's a it's a toss up either breakthroughs no that's what it is it's i just tied it together it's breakthroughs and epiphanies in healing oh like it's great when a person hits that point where it just like it unlocks for them yes and like oh my god and it all falls together like witnessing that and being in that space where everything simultaneously crumbles and then like the possibilities open up at the same time yes and this overflow of just emotion and freedom and sorrow and excitement at the same time it's it's like a it's like a sole orgasm it is yeah it's like the it's like everything collapsing but celebrating at the same time yeah it's beautiful breakthroughs and epiphanies and healing i believe that's the first time we've had that and i love sole orgasm sole orgasm yeah i love that you know it's interesting because a sole orgasm happens through those breakthroughs um in epiphanies and healing it also happens when you get like a breakthrough an epiphany in in conscious evolution through the uh connection of like maybe like disparate ideas that you recently picked one up and you realized holy shit yeah that adds a whole new aspect to my worldview now i get a big puzzle piece now and like those are also just sole orgasms like oh yeah i love that so it works i love that do you feel like we need to cover anything else do you feel good i feel pretty good i feel great thanks for having me on here this has been fantastic i want to do this again this is uh i hope people you know reach out and let's talk more about this we need to yes yeah about conscious evolution in general reach out to emberto also for guide true as well reach out to emberto check out the links in the bio below thank you very much my pleasure on the show thank you so much it's great yeah i love it and i love how we finally made this first in person and the interview happened i'm so pumped for further co-creating absolutely let's do this everyone have more conversations with your friends families co-workers people online on social media about conscious evolution about the topics that we talked about today let's make it more common to hear people around the world talking about this and learning and growing individually and together also check out the links in the bio below again to emberto's work and also support the artist entrepreneurs the organizations the community leaders in your area sport them help them grow sport simulation our links are in the bio below to our patreon paypal cryptocurrency links support us help us grow and also go and build the future everyone manifest your dreams into the world we love you very much thank you for tuning in and we will see you soon peace it's a wrap brother that's amazing that's fantastic thank you so much super like multifaceted