 In this episode of Mime Pump, look, you're listening to the top fitness and health and entertainment podcast in the world. And what we do in this episode is we answer fitness and health questions asked by our audience. But the way we open the episode is with our introductory conversations where we talk about current events. Sometimes we mention our sponsors and we just have a lot of general fun with our conversation. So here's what went down in this episode. We started up by talking about Justin's inappropriate comment yesterday on the live IG story with Dr. Becky Campbell. He talked about how armed robbers were in his neighborhood. That's kind of scary. Adam talked about how maybe the current atmosphere may be promoting the mass legalization of weed. We talked about Dr. Fauci and how he said maybe we should stop shaking hands. I don't think so. I don't think that's a good idea. Come on, guy. I talked about the article in the San Francisco gate that is, there may be theorizing that the coronavirus was here in California all the way back into fall of 2019. Interesting. Which would kind of make sense. And then we talked about how we're going to go do our antibody tests here in a little bit. We also talked about how in New York, the coronaviruses there seem to be rooted from Europe. And then we mentioned our sponsor Magic Spoon and how they're donating boxes of cereal to people who need it. Now Magic Spoon makes high protein, very low sugar cereal, and it tastes like kid's cereal. They're flying off the shelves. Obviously people are stuck at home right now. They want to comfort themselves with tasty food. And a lot of people want to make a better choice though when they do it. Magic Spoon is a good choice. The protein is from whey protein. Again, it's high in protein and they have flavors like, you know, the fruity O's and blueberry and chocolate. 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So we talk about the benefits of each. Next question. This person's dad has started working out again, but it's got terrible form. How can they be helped? So we talked about the importance of mobility and correctional exercise training. The next question. This person has access to our at home workout program maps anywhere, but they also have kids and they want to know what exercises in the program the kids can do. By the way, maps anywhere during this, you know, this quarantine period of time, we put it 50% off. It's one of our best workout programs that requires just resistance bands, a broomstick and maybe a pull-up bar. So very, very minimal equipment, very effective. This program is going to be half off until things are, you know, settled down. The code for that is white 50. That's the word white and the number 50. So make sure you go check that out. 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So what you do is you go in the program, you identify the joints of your body that need help, that need extra work, the areas that you think you need better mobility, your hips, your ankles, your wrists, your shoulders, your spine, whatever. Find those areas, follow maps prime pro to work on mobility and get tremendous progress. Okay, both those programs 50% off. Here's how you get the discount. Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com and use the code prime 50. That's P-R-I-M-E-5-0, no space for the discount. So yesterday I was on Dr. Becky Campbell's live IG story. Yes. And she wanted to ask me questions about exercising at home, how to stay fit without equipment, mindset. We had a really good conversation. Love her. She's such a personable, funny, just great person. She's got a great following too, those great questions. But anyway, so we're talking. Did you see Justin's comment? I didn't. I did drop in at one point though, and I saw him say that when I came in, he said, okay, I got to get out here because I have too many people are asking him stuff. Yeah, no. So Justin pops on and he goes because, you know, Becky's talking to me, right? So she's whatever. And so he puts, wow, he goes, your hair is so long and sexy. And does the heart face or whatever? Yeah. Yeah. To Sal, right? But I didn't say Sal. Yeah. So she got all flustered for a second. Dr. Campbell, she, as I'm talking, she sees his comment and, you know, what he said, and she starts laughing. And she goes, I can't concentrate. She starts blushing, you know? Justin was directing it towards me. I was like, I pulled an atom on that one. I'll have to go back in and listen to it. Doug, you'll have to get on the mic for a second because Justin sounds like he's far away. Yeah, I'm not, I can't even hear myself. That's okay. Nobody cares. Let's see how this goes. Oh my God, there I am. Thank God. This is the way we're doing it now, Justin. Hey guys, I'm in outer space. Don't forget about me. Yeah, I just sounded like you were way far away right there. We're just testing it out, see if we get more downloads. You know, you got to try it all, you guys. We try it without you. It went pretty well. So, yeah. I think it was the most downloaded episode, right, Justin? At least, yeah. We saw the numbers. It was the worst. Numbers speak for themselves. You can't make a cake without the eggs, the milk, and the flour. That's the bottom line. Okay. Who's what? Who's the flour? Well, you're the widest. So obviously the flour. Okay. Yeah, I'm an ashy sometimes too. So I'm the eggs because you're allergic to them. No, I'm not the milk. No, bro. Yeah, milkie, milkie. Whatever, we make cake. Hey, what happened last night, bro? We were in your ghetto. Bro, it's not the ghetto. It's seriously so much random things like happen every now and then. But so if you go a mile away, there's this whole complex. You have Safeway, you have CVS, you have, you know, liquor store, so all the essential places, right? So apparently, well, okay, first of all, after the whole thing, I was watching Sal on his live story and everything. I'm like sitting there. I'm like, you know, doing work on the computer and all of a sudden, look outside and there's trucks zipping back and forth at the top of my road with like sirens, flash and all this stuff. Courtney had just left to go to take our little puppy to the vet to get the last shots and she was like, oh my God, are you seeing this? This is crazy. I just saw like a bunch of guys outside this truck with like these huge assault rifles and everything out like looking around for people and I was like, oh my God, what's happening, dude? Now, be honest, are you at that moment thinking yourself like, oh, martial arts started? Hundred percent, dude. I got outside of my house and I went up to the road and then I saw and they were like, everybody was moving frantically and they were like going out and looking in the bushes and then a guy kind of caught my eye and then I was like, oh, I'm going back in the house. I ran back in the house and I found out later people were texting, I guess, word spread out that somebody had held up a CVS down the road by gunpoint and so I was like running around with like carrying like a handgun and so they were like trying to chase them through all these like forests and everything and he made his way into like my neighborhood and so I was like, oh, shit, like locking on my doors up and everything. You know what? See, this is when I wish I was faster with my reply on your text because Adam, how funny would it have been if he said that and you said the same thing and all of us like, me too, run up to my house. They're banging on my door, bro. I lost my shit, dude. Yeah, it was like, I didn't even, I don't know if these were Rangers or what, they weren't regular cops because we did have sheriffs because what's cool too about my area, just to give it credit, is that the end of the road, there's like a sheriff station so it's like right next to the furry place, right? Yeah, right next to the furries where they all meet and convene and eat out of bowls. Yeah, yeah, that's the Santa Cruz for it. But yeah, like so I feel relatively safe where I live like typically, but these were trucks I've never seen before. It looked like almost like unmarked government trucks and you know, who were these guys with like huge assault rifles and everything. And this was all for a grocery store robbery or what was it? Yes, a CVS. A CVS robbery. Well, how much money are you gonna get at a robbing a CVS? I know, right? I would think, okay, right now, because everybody's wearing masks, that this would be like, yes, come on. I'm just saying that somebody has to think this way, right? Like if you're a criminal and you're like, I was thinking about robbing a grocery store anyways. Easy to walk in. Right, right now. My masking gloves. Right, my mask. Can't get my prints. Exactly. My mask, my gloves. I think about this, all the security that's normally like, all the security that's normally like allotted to like the whole shopping center is just like the essential stores. There's only like one or two stores open. So it's like, they're ready for that. You know, this is the only time though in history that somebody could walk in with a full mask on their face and kitchen rubber gloves. And that's normal. And you wouldn't even bat an eye right now. Right, so you could probably get right to where you need. I was gonna take my slipknot mask and go down and get some groceries. You brought something, you just said something right now that I've been meaning to bring up on the show because I wanted to hear you guys' opinion on this. And I find this really interesting that amongst all this shutdown and shelter in place and businesses having to close, right, that's been just crippling for so many people, right? Why and how, okay, and I don't understand why enough, why people aren't in an uproar about this. How did liquor stores become essential? Yeah, they sell some food. I think it's because they sell some food. They sell water. Is it because they fall under grocery store? I think so. What a bullshit loophole. What a slippery slope that was. I think if you just sold pure alcohol. The only person who buys water and food from the liquor store are the people going there to buy liquor. They go, oh, hey, I need some fucking toilet paper. I need a chaser. Yeah. What are you, a millionaire doing your grocery shopping at the 7-Eleven? Yeah. They got limes, you know, that's produce. Yeah. No, I think it's because they sell other stuff, you know? But hey, man, someone might consider it essential, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's a way to survive this whole thing. I had another theory, too. We pull this up because this will either... Yeah, make sure it's not an April Fool's joke. I'm still getting more of those. You know, people are always like an episode or two behind that drives me crazy. I have to remember that like, because I'm still getting DMs about that. Hey, you idiot. You know, like you're with them. Yes. Moron. I know. Oh, come on. Like you've never fallen for this? Yeah, they got me and I already admitted that I got punked already. I don't need fucking 500 DMs to remind me, too. Yeah. I don't know where we're at right now because I don't follow this like I used to. Where is legalization for marijuana across the United States? How many states are... Are legal for recreation? Yes. Okay. Because I think... Not many. I think if there is anything that may fast track this to go all the way across the United States and that actually has the potential to drive enough tax revenue dollars would be almost every state would be smart to get on that as fast as they could and legalize it and tax it. Why do you think this would motivate that? Because we're all going to be in a shit storm when this is... Oh, you mean financially? Yeah, financially. So look at that. So more than half the country still has not legalized. So there's a huge opportunity... Well, there's only one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine states that have recreational marijuana being legalized. And then there's an additional, I don't know what that looks like, 10 states of medical. So you could super conservative states. And we know... I mean, Doug, this would be another great stat to pull up right now. How many tax dollars from marijuana for California alone, right? Oh, it's a lot. Yeah, right. So while Doug's looking this up, just think about that for a second. Can you think of a single thing that could help boost the economy after COVID-19? As strong as that? As strong as that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. That's not... If they legalize cocaine. Well, yeah. You asked me. Hey, one step at a time. One step at a time, guy. Yeah. But... California has the first... There's not gonna be any more raves or parties, you know what I mean? So then what are you gonna do? No, I really... I think you're gonna see this. I think this isn't like on the only one that could be thinking about this. If you are a governor right now, and you are looking at your state bleeding right now, and you haven't legalized marijuana, and it's kind of inevitable that we're going this way, and everyone's gonna be, and maybe you were a conservative state that was kind of fighting it for now. This is what... This might be the... So here, California has raised one billion in cannabis revenue two years after launching the legal market. So a billion dollars in two years. Legit, right? Yeah, that's a decent amount. Well, here's... Okay, I'm gonna counter that. I think with the current state of affairs, it might be a terrible reason or time for more people to smoke weed. Oh my gosh. It's already happening. The weed places that are open... The most paranoid time of all, yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah, but depending on the strain, I guess. Right now, if you try and go to a local cannabis store, I mean, I was driven back to the black market because you can't get anything right now. You can't get anything in California, which we got them on every corner. You're almost driven to the black market now. Yeah, wink, wink, yeah. Yeah, almost. I got your back real close. Shout out to all the local drug dealers out there that are still putting out good shit, you know what I'm saying? Hey, thanks, Mike Smith, for delivering... Hey, Mikey. Come get me for an ounce of weed. Yeah, no, I think you're right. I think they're gonna start to try to come up with creative ways to either come up with ways to raise taxes or just continue doing what they're doing, which is print money and throw it at things. To me, this is... In my opinion... Monopoly money. And I can't wait till we have conversation tomorrow. To me, this is one of the smartest ways. One of the worst things that we can do that people are okay with is just infusing money out of nowhere, printing money and just pumping it into our economy... It's another tax. ...is a false signal that we're doing better. Technically, it's another tax. But taxing something that is already in existence and primarily on the black market right now is a fucking great thing. If somebody wants it, sure. Yeah. Now, the problem that... Just don't tax us. Now, the problem that I'll talk about California, California sees marijuana, legalizes it and says, let's tax this shit out of it. And that just ensures that you have a vibrant black market. It does, and I agree with you here. They need to be smart about it. Okay, so here's the thing though. You're right. And it does. But it still opened the market up. The reason why it's generated a billion dollars in two years is because there is... There's a clear line of people, right? There's people like me who have been around cannabis for a long time, recognize what good weed is and knows that I'm not going to pay fucking $45 for some shit. Do they have a name for that? You know, they have Somalia for wines. Do they have one for weedies? Connoisseur? Yeah, weed connoisseur. Or a master grower. Master grower, weed connoisseur. I think we got to get a better name. Stoner. That's what they call it. No, that's a terrible name for it. That's perfect. But you have... And then you have people like my aunt or grandmother who have never messed with it, but because it's become legalized and they've heard good things that it could help relieve anxiety or help them with their sleeping, they feel safe going into a club. They most certainly are not calling Mike Smith to come deliver to their house. No. It is a shady cat. So those are tax dollars that we are collecting that we never would have collected before now. And I think that's a result of those bills. But you're right. It still has driven a market for people. If they really want to raise a lot of tax, what they do is they tax it appropriately and open it up so that more places can sell cannabis. It's available easier because they make it a little bit difficult to get to and to buy. So if they really want to raise a lot of money, if they do it the right way, they'll get way more money. But I think the way that they're doing it now, they're raising money, but they're losing money because there's a very vibrant black market that still exists for people who don't want to spend... They don't want a 40% increase in the price of their product and they can buy it so easily from the guy over here. It's like New York City with their cigarettes. You have a vibrant black market for cigarettes. You think to yourself, that sounds crazy. It's because New York taxed the shit out of their cigarettes. I mean, at the end of the day, you're right and it's not perfect, but it's still significantly better than what's going on. It's better than a state that is illegal because it's an entire black market. At least let's collect a billion dollars. You know what I'm saying? It could be two billion if you do it right, but I'll take a billion dollars a state. I mean, if that were to happen, it might actually raise us out of this when we're done. And I bet you there's going to be a... I bet you're going to see that map that Doug pulled up. I think you're going to see it get colored blue a lot faster. You think there's going to be a rise in prostitution? I know this might be a little controversial. I'm just speculating right now. You mean in legalized prostitution or just a rise in general? Just in general. Yeah. You know what? I mean, I just... I think it's slowing down. I fear that some people are going to resort to the only thing they can think of to make money if they're in a desperate situation. Oh, I see what you're saying. I think it's slowing down because for the fans only pages. Like, I really do. Wow, that has helped a bit. It is the... And I'm probably going to offend some people. Everybody. Yeah, not everybody. Come on. Lots of people. No, not even lots of people. There's a percentage of people listening that have fans only pages. Everybody else that enjoys them, they don't give a fuck, right? So if you're somebody who... Because they're popping up like crazy. Oh, they are. And you know, they're making some good money right now. If you are... Yeah, but I think it's such a terrible long-term strategy because... By no means am I condoning it or I'm pro it or I think it's a great business model, but it's a hustle just like prostitution kind of is, right? It's not like the best business strategy long-term for a family, right? But it is a hustle. It was like one of the oldest trades ever. And you're able to hustle now online and not even put yourself at risk. But do you think that that is going to... Do you think, for example, pornography reduced prostitution because now there's more access to videos and pictures? I don't necessarily think they're the same thing. I don't necessarily think like people who want to see videos of women through webcam and stuff. I don't think that necessarily is the same thing as... Unless the girl is using the webcam fan's only page in order to get really good clients that she then can... They can spend... Provides more high-end services. Yeah, they can get the platinum package that includes, you know, we hang out together. We looked into that. Yeah, and see what happens. Justin didn't generate very much revenue for us. I'm just looking at my options. We had to pick it again. Yeah. No, it's weird because then you also see Dr. Fauci. What he said about shaking hands, like basically, yeah, no more shaking hands going forward from here on out. No. Like that was like his statement. Dude, what are you going to do? You're not going to shake hands. That means you can't hug people. That means you're not going to have sex with people. What are you doing? Come on, man. We've had illnesses and pandemics since the beginning of time. Humans need touch. We need to touch each other. It's a part of being healthy. I think that's crazy. Although it does bring something interesting up, Doug had mentioned, and I wonder if there's any truth to this. He said, you know, I wonder if the Japanese came up with bowing because of maybe a long time ago of that. But how would they know that? That's interesting. That's an interesting thought. Yeah. I don't know. I like the handshake. You can connect with someone. You can instantly, you know... Yeah, but you're not doing it right now. You're not handshaking right now. No, no. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's... What are the safe ones? Like saluting, bowing. I do this. Your head nods. That's going to come back. Yeah, that's a, you know... I've been doing that for a long time. So, bro. Yeah. Yeah, you look kind of like that. I hurt my neck the other day. I went too fast. No, I don't... The Guanas do that. I don't think they need to do all that. I think right now, sure. But then again, how many people are you meeting right now in person? Nobody? Yeah, nobody. I've actually... Now, out of the three of us, who's watching still? Because I honestly have... I went on... When we were in Tahoe, right? For those two... Oh, we were like every morning. Every morning that was a ritual. Had coffee. We watched the news. We listened to Trump talk also. Yeah. I've completely just... Roasted for years. I've stopped now for almost, I would say, seven to 10 days. I've completely just stopped. Well, so I've dramatically reduced how much I follow, but I still follow. A little bit. An interesting article was published in the San Francisco... What is it? The San Francisco Gate? Chronicle. The gate or the Chronicle. That... Very, very interesting. So the article is theorizing... So I don't know if you guys knew this, but Stanford did a huge study here in the Bay Area like a week ago. So Stanford set up a station. I think it was at Visona Park, if I'm not mistaken. Oh, wow. And they signed up a bunch of people and they tested for antibodies. I think they did something like three or 4,000 tests. I didn't know this. I didn't hear about this. Yeah, and they wanted to just test everybody. Not just people who had symptoms or whatever. And what they're trying to figure out was population infection rate. Because we know that there's a lot of people without symptoms that can be carriers of the virus. And so we're trying to figure this out. And the reason why this is so important in California is because right now, infectious disease experts are really scratching their heads as to why California, the most populous state in the country, has such low infection rates and low death rates compared to other states. Very, very low. We look at New York, New York's infection. They have like 10 times more infections there than we do here. And their death rate is through the roof in comparison. California, very, very populated state. We have densely populated areas in the Bay Area, San Francisco, Los Angeles. And it doesn't, and we're not nearly, nearly as bad. Now, are there theories around the virus thriving better in colder climates than warmer climates or other way around? Well, what they're saying about what some of the theories around California are is that it was, it might have been around in California in the fall of 2019. I'm fucking, listen dude, today is the day. Is that the article you just found? That's the article I just found. Today is the day Sal and I go down and we get tested at Red Dot, okay? Today we go, because I believe I had it. And I think you believe you had it. Now. So it says in the article, so it is, it's the San Francisco Gate. It says, study investigates if COVID-19 came to California in fall of 2019. Here's some more interesting news. We had an early flu season in California and it hit off hard. And there were a lot of mysterious illnesses that were happening here in California around that time. Combine that with the fact that people are just not getting, look, I know we had the shelter in place and all that stuff, but we're a bit, we have a lot of fucking people here. And homeless population. Yes. And how can you be confident you could trace it just to like a specific date of one passenger coming out and like spreading it? Well, California has been forever and continues to be by far the most popular tourist place for Chinese tourists by far. And they love to come. Right across the pond. They love to go to LA and they love to go to San Francisco. And that's, we were some of the first places hit by when they started testing by COVID or whatever, right? New York, right now they're doing tests and they're finding that. All from Europe, right? Yes. Yeah. That's why we're into. So because COVID's mutating a little bit here and there and they can start to see like, oh, this one came from Europe. Oh, really? Most of the cases in New York they're finding came from Europe. So what might have happened is California was exposed early. We weren't really tracking or whatever. We just kind of had a bad flu season. People getting sick or whatever. But we're not focusing on it with a magnifying glass. Not everybody's not in panic like we are right now. Now that we're focusing on it, everybody's like, why the fuck is California doing so well? Our death rates like comparison is nothing. I got to look it up with what it is as of right now. Which is ironic considering that we were one of the first places that tested in it, right? We were the first place in the United States that popped up. Popped up in San Francisco. Or no, wait, Washington first and then San Francisco? The Bay Area was one of the first places. It was one of the first places. And they thought we were going to get hit really hard. Yeah. They thought, so check this out, right? New York, as of right now, total confirmed cases 159,000. So this is as of the recording of this podcast. So when it drops, these will be off. California at 19,000, okay? Wow, 159 to 19,000. Now look at the deaths. Here's the big one. The total deaths in New York due to COVID, 7,000. The total, total, total deaths in California as of when we started paying attention and testing. 508, 508. We have 489 total cases per 1 million, the population. 13 deaths per 1 million. New York is at 8,000 cases per 1 million and 360 deaths. Our number of 13 deaths per 1 million population is very, very low compared to others. Now is the one in Europe, has it mutated at all and become a different type? It's mutated a little bit, but they're not finding it to be more or less. Okay, good. Because I'd be like, oh, shit. Because now I watched Outbreak. Now are they the ones that are getting it in California? Are we tracing that to China? I haven't read anything about that. I wonder. I haven't read anything about it, but I could look it up. And how many, like when I saw that Red Dot was doing that, it just blew my mind. I didn't know that the private people were doing this yet. Is this happening more and more? Companies are starting to get their getting FDA approval to be able to provide antibody testing to the population through private means, which means you have to pay for it, which means that they generate revenue to produce more. This is going to be in addition to all the tests that the government is paying for in the hospitals. This is a very good thing. So when Stanford did it, what was the outcome? How many people had that? Don't know yet. Oh, we told you. It just happened. They just did this test, but we're going to start to see the results. And what they're going to find with it is a more accurate population infection rate. Because like, okay, Iceland, I think, did this, or Greenland or Iceland did this, where they tested just a bunch of people. And they got a more accurate infection rate, because when you test only people with bad symptoms, you don't really get an accurate number, because we don't know all the people that don't have, that are asymptomatic. We don't know any of that stuff. So that's what they're trying to figure out. I've been, this is, and I'm such a numbers guy. So this is something that I was trying to explain to my friends that have been freaking out since the beginning of all this is that, what we know, the number that's been pretty consistent, even with people that make it to the hospital when we test, 97% of the people report mild symptoms. Okay, so if 97% of the people that go to the hospital and get tested report mild symptoms, what percentage of people don't even go report it? Like yourself, or potentially might. Now I'm not saying that we did, we don't know yet, we'll find out, but to me that just, it makes you gotta think a little bit that there's gotta be some percentage, whether that's 1% or 50% of the people don't even go into the hospital, which we completely inflate and change those numbers. It's interesting, isn't it? Yes. Yeah, I'm really interested to see what these antibody tests say for us. I'm not gonna lie, I'll be really angry if I get the antibody test, and if I didn't have it, I'll be like, fuck, but we'll see, it's very interesting. But it is weird that California is just doing as exceptionally well as it is, and none of these infectious disease experts would have forecasted that at all. So this is kind of a theory that it was circulating way before. Speaking of New York, and I mentioned this on the last time we brought up, Magic Spoon is that is where we are sending the boxes of cereal are to the New York Food Bank where they need it the most right now. So, and that's for all of April, so it's already started. So for every Magic Spoon purchase, they're matching that with a box of cereal that will be shipped out over to the New York Food Bank where they need it the most right now in the country. Magic Spoon is one of our... Champion companies. They're one of our partners that is just crushing right now because people are ordering their high protein, no sugar cereal, because it's good shelf life, it tastes good, you're stuck at home. It's comforting. And that's a strategy now. I don't normally recommend this strategy to people under normal circumstances. I don't like this strategy that you'll hear a lot of fitness coaches recommend their clients, hey, if you're gonna, why don't you have healthy snacks and why don't you make all these substitutes and whatever. I don't think that's a great necessarily long-term coaching approach, but under the current circumstances, I do because it's stressful, it's time to tough. You don't wanna go to the grocery store every single day. You want things with a long shelf life. So rather than getting Fruit Loops, you get Magic Spoon and then you have high protein, low sugar. So this is a strategy that I think a lot of people are adopting, which might be why they're crushing. Yeah, I just love seeing, it's cool. It makes me feel good about the vetting process that we all do before we partner with a company. And I always wonder, I always feel like, one day we're gonna be wrong, right? We're gonna think we love some company and then we're gonna find out some bad. Yeah, right, or that they do something bad and then we're like, fuck. But I think because we care about that so much and we stress that and vet them and court them before we actually do a partnership with them. I mean, I've just been really proud of the people that we've chose to do business with because many of the companies that we're doing are doing things like that. Dude, I'm always looking for companies that are doing it the right way right now. Dude, we brought up the whole debacle with 24 Hour Fitness and all that. And I just heard about the CEO from Marriott how he basically gave his entire salary now to keep his company afloat with keeping employees paid. So he said, I'm not gonna get paid. Not gonna get paid. Let's save this money. You know who wins all of that, right? Who? Jack Dorsey. Have you pulled, Doug, pulled this up? What percentage of rich people donating for COVID-19? Let's see if this graph comes in. I saw this graph today. Oh, yeah, I did see that graph. And you're talking about, you know, the Bill Gates, the Oprah Winfrey's, like they've all donated millions of dollars, which is amazing, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they show the percentage of that, of their total income. And so the Twitter CEO. So if you're like a hella broke and you give 10 bucks and like 50% of my income. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think on average, it's like a, it's like, it's two or 5% of all of these, you know, millionaires and millionaires money, but Jack Dorsey gave a billion dollars. So he's the only one that gave a billion dollars, which is 32% of his net worth. And everybody else is like, the other people that are giving you 100 million. 100 million, but it's like, yeah, it's a drop in the bucket, but whatever it's still. Wow, he donated a one billion to fund. That's insane. COVID-19 relief and other charities. What a champion, right? Yeah. Good. I see this stuff. This is the stuff I love to see about, you know, about, you know, successful people. Because I'm going to tell you, you know. Bro, that is a 32% of your fucking net worth is a big, huge deal. That is a big, huge chunk out. You know, haters are going to be like, yeah, but he still has, that means he's got, you know, the three billion or whatever, you know, left in his account. Oh, God stop. I know, I know, I know. So annoying. What did you give, asshole? Oh, I know. Two bucks? So annoying. Anyway, so I want to say something that's probably going to annoy you guys, but man, mobility work, when you do it consistently. That shit works really good. It's like magic, isn't it? Yeah. Good to have you on board. But you know what, it's always a struggle for me to consistently do daily concentrated mobility work. It works so much better when it's done frequently, when you practice it often. But I do fall in that category of, you know, if I skip anything, it's that because I love the heavy lifting. I even love the bodybuilding kind of stuff. And my form is relatively good. So I can get away with it, you know, here and there. And I get all that. But you know, stuck at home, I'm, you know, finding ways to create structure in my day and to, you know, alleviate stress and whatever. So I've been consistent with- Lots of downward dogging. Yeah, downward, upward, downward, upward. So I've been really consistent with, you know, just, and all I'm doing is I swear to God, 15 minutes, 15 minutes, once or twice a day of, you know, the Prime Pro, you know, mobility stuff. And I love it. I love it, man. And you know what's funny? You feel it right away, like within two or three days. So Doug just walked out of the room for the listeners and he's not in here right now. So when he walks back in, you have to ask him about the mobility class I took him through yesterday. Oh, you took him through a whole class? Yeah. So I took, so Doug and I have been talking about doing a webinar around some of the, some of our favorite movements from Prime Pro, basically a 45 to 50 minute class that I used to teach. I've talked about on the show before that I used to do these classes on Saturday for old clients of mine that used to go to my boot camps back in the days. And so I've been doing that for a long time and I took Doug through it. So he got to experience it yesterday for the first time. And so it's something that we were just kind of playing with and I haven't even asked him how he feels from doing it. Did you put him through the meat grinder? You know, I... Oh, good stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it was good stuff. I just, it's the same thing that I used to, exact same thing I used to do in my class, but... How was it, Doug? It was great. My hips are much better right now. Really? Yeah. It's crazy. So what I... Just one real session, I mean, really pushing through it and going all out. That was amazing, like 40 minutes. Oh, yeah. And really, really concentrating on connecting. Really focused. Well, it's something that I had him do that I make clients do. So because some, you know, if you're... You got to remember as a trainer, right? When you're helping people that are just like completely detached from their movement and don't really think about mechanics and even something as great as a great mobility session, as great as it is, they sometimes can't even connect how well it really helped them. I can. I can see the way they move right away. It's like very obvious to me. So what I have them do is before I even start, I go, what I want you to do with me real quick is we're going to do 10 deep squats together. And I just want you to just feel it. Feel it go as deep as you can. Follow me. And I have... I squat all the way down all the way up and I count 10 with them and I make them do that. And then I do it at the end of the class. To show them the difference. To show them the difference. And it's so glaring for somebody. What a difference of their hips, their ankles, their knees, how deep they get. That's feedback. That is a... That is it. So I would do similar things when I was a trainer because it's such a powerful way to communicate to a client the value of whatever it is that you're doing with them. Because unless somebody actually experiences it, sometimes it's difficult to really communicate to someone the value of something. So then when you show them and I say, okay, do this row right now. And then they do it. And then I do some stuff and I do it again. Like, whoa, this feels totally different. Sold. Now they get it. They're bought in. And they're more likely to do it consistently. It's a very... And so here's my point with all this. Do this for yourself. So like what Adam's saying, try doing a few full squats. Then do 20 minutes of good mobility work. Then do 10 more squats or whatever. And for yourself. Just so you could see the difference that it makes. Right. And if you think you have a hard time... Makes you awful climp. Hard time seeing it. Would you say? I said it makes them awful climp thinking about it. You can also video it. I mean, you can see... After I watched Doug, he was getting an extra, probably four inches. You filmed him getting down, huh? Yeah. Four inches deeper into his squat. Oh yeah. His feet weren't pronating as bad as they were before. His chest was more upright when he was doing it. And so I mean, as a trainer, I see it right away. So if you have a hard time seeing those things as a client or somebody who's listening, video it. Video your first 10 before, do it, and then video it again. And I promise you'll see a difference. And to me, like you said, Sal, that's... Being able to show somebody... Like, there's not a lot of things. Like, I can't take you through the... I can write the best workout program. And take you through it. And I can't show you five pounds of muscle, like increase to your bench press. Not right away. No, not right away. But I can take you through a mobility workout. And you can feel and see a difference on how you move right away. Right away. And that's such a great selling point for trainers. And the more often you do it, the more permanent that benefit becomes. Right, right. Yeah, it becomes your new patterning. Totally. So I was reading this really good article about ancient athletes. These are athletes who competed in the Olympics, in 480 or whatever. Greco-Roman times. Yeah. And because I think we tend to think that athletes today would just smoke. Yeah, old athletes. Like we're just so much better or whatever. But you read about some of these guys. I saved some of the big standouts. Check this out, right? Okay. So here's one. There was Keonis of Sparta. So this was an athlete that competed in Sparta. And historical records suggest that at the 656 BC Games, he jumped a then record 7.05 meters. In other words, he could have won with that, that 2,600 year old jump at the first Olympics in 1896. And then it would have placed him in the top eight at the further 10 Olympics all the way up to and including the 1952 Games in Helsinki. So he would have been just as competitive. This is 656 BC, no understanding of modern training, modern nutrition, probably no shoes. Explain the jump. Is this the vertical jump or the long jump? Oh, TA jump 21 feet of the air. No, no, no, no. Because that would be the long jump. It's like a moon jump. Come on, guy. It's a long jump. Pretty amazing, right? Michael Jordan eats your heart out. Something like that is amazing. Then there was Milo of Croton. He had, and now he was a wrestler. Of Croton? Of Croton. He had an estimated 1,200 wins and one loss up until the age of 45. Up until he was 45, he won 1,200 matches, lost one. Now, the second most winningest wrestler of all time is Alexander Carolyn. You guys have heard me talk about him, the Russian Bear. He had 887 wins and two losses. Just to show you the example. 887? Yeah, which is still crazy. Woo! Well, you know that this reminds me of somebody asked on, I don't know if it was something we were together or to me privately, but they asked about what I, one of my favorite Ted Talks that I could share with them. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, my go-to share. Like when I think of the most mind-blowing one for me was, I think it's, our athletes, bigger, stronger, faster. I think that's the title. But it's a Ted Talk around the evolution of sports. It's a democratization of sports, right? Yeah, you say it. You did it. Yeah, I did it. So, and in that, they basically, they had all these great studies around to support exactly what you're saying right now is that we really haven't evolved that much as humans. Although it looks like it to the spectator, right? You watch football and just in my lifetime, football players today and basketball players, they look so much better. But really, like when they break it all down, they attribute a majority of that actually to the evolution of science. How big were they? You know, like how big, how like, like his fast twitch muscle and like the way that we've trained, like that has to have played a factor. Well, yeah, that's our modern day athlete. That's the evolution of science, right? We've learned to diet better, which has helped a little bit. We've learned to equipment a little bit. Like it's, it's so. And it's also, we've eaten more calories, which has produced bigger bodies. And it's also what you said where you, back in the day, they were looking at it. Athletes were considered to, they had, they all looked a certain way. There was a general athlete. A shot putter today looks nothing like a long distance runner. Looks nothing like a weightlifter. It's super specific. Yes. Cause now you're picking like the tallest kids for basketball or the, you know, so back then it didn't necessarily do that. And athletes competed in many different things. There's another guy, Theogenius of Thassos, who competed for 22 years in every major combat competition at the time. Boxing, pain creation and wrestling. You guys familiar with pain creation? No, what's that? Pain creation is like MMA, except they wore leather. They wore like a strap of leather around their knuckles and they basically would could fuck each other up however they wanted. So it was, it was like, it was like cage fighting without cages. First question is from Vidal F3. I want to get a machine for cardio. Between the treadmill, elliptical, rower or bike, what machine would be the most beneficial for workouts, hit and overall health? Oh, if you, well, if the choice, if the choice is between those, in my opinion, the treadmill is the, is the best option. It's the most versatile, walking, running. You can practice your technique and form on them. It's very functional. It's the easiest to do at lower intensities for a lot of people. You know, if you need to get on in there and just walk. It's, there's a reason why it's the most popular piece of cardio equipment. It's existed forever and it's always in all of them. I don't have an issue with ellipticals, rowers or bikes, necessarily, but the, like a rower, I think requires more skill. Requires a little bit better stability. Ellipticals are okay, but you're, you're, you're limited. You can't do, you can only do the elliptical, whereas on a treadmill, there's a lot of different things you can do if you want to get, you know, kind of created. But at the end of the day, the one that you feel most comfortable with is probably going to be fine because really what you're training, unless you're trained specifically for a sport like biking, rowing, running, you're just strengthening your cardiovascular system, in which case you can do that with all of those. Yeah, if you're looking at it in terms of the mechanics of walking, running, jogging and all that, you know, then a treadmill obviously is going to make sense with that out of all of them. But in terms of what I look for out of, like a piece of cardio equipment is, you know, how, how like involved I can get my lower body, my upper body, like everything stimulated by it. So I tend to choose something like the rower or the bike, like the assault bike where I can actually rip the handles and, you know, really get my upper body engaged as well. Just, I just, I can't stand, to me it just feels like I'm a hamster on a wheel with the treadmill. And it's just like a slow death. I'd rather be outside, you know, hiking or doing hills. But for your average person, I think a treadmill with the, with the ability for it to incline, I think is a fantastic option. I can actually make a case for each one of these. There's, there's a, there's a person that this is, that's why the answer is always depends with us, right? Yeah. Because somebody, and I've, if I had to put one in last place, I would put the bike unless you say the assault bike like Justin just said. If you put a salt bike and replace a bike, I can make a case for each one of those. Your simple case you just made for the site. I mean, the second, the assault bike too is, I think it's, they've already done studies on the ability to reach like your, your max heart rate and burn the most of calories. Yeah, real quickly. Right. It's up, it's up there with one of the best when it comes to, when we're talking about just straight burn. So there's the case for that, right? Rower in my opinion is probably one of the healthiest things someone could learn to do. Now, because of the point that Sal made, the learning curve on it is probably the highest out of all those, right? You're getting on a bike very easy, getting on a treadmill very easy, elliptical even easier, rowing most technical, but because it's most technical, probably has the, the greatest advantage for seeing the most return from it, right? Like I, it's going to, if you learn to do it well, you're going to get great core strength from there. You get leg drive from there. You're doing retracting and working the posterior train. So your back is getting involved, which we as trainers know that working on the posterior chain is so important for most clients. So I can make a ton of value for the rower. Treadmill, why I can make the case the same reason why Sal did. It's probably the most versatile. You can do the most things on it as far as walking, running, skipping, uphill, flat, even you can do some treadmills downhill. So I think that that one is the most versatile. Elliptical though, if I have a client who is got joint issues, if you have a lot of knee pain or hip pain, that is the lowest impact. That one in the bike or the lowest impact out of all those. So it's probably the healthiest way and you are moving ellipticals are moving your arms and your legs. So it actually, when you measure the calorie burning comparison to a lot of things, it may seem easier, but I remember when the body bug first came out, I actually wore it and then I did all of these different cardio modalities to see like how the expenditure and the one I was most surprised in was elliptical. Elliptical was right up there with the treadmill with the most amount of calories burned for the same amount of time that I was on it. So I can see a lot of value there. So it really depends on the person. None of them are wrong. And like Sal said, the main thing that you're using it for unless it's very sport specific for what you're trying to accomplish is to train the heart. And you could do that doing jumping jacks. You can do that jogging outside. You can do that with warrior ropes running in place. Yeah. And the truth is, no matter which one you choose, if you do it every single day, consistently for the same time, the same intensity, at some point the body will get very adapted to it. And then the main thing that you're trying to accomplish from it, as far as your cardiovascular endurance is going to start to diminish unless you start to vary, change it, or increase time or intensity on it. But general activity is just good for you. General daily activity is just healthy. So even if you're doing it and you're not necessarily getting any more cardio gains or fat loss gains, just the fact that you're moving. So which one will you do the most, right? Yeah. So that's the truth is, if you like to row, row. Right. So here's why I like the treadmill for me. This is a me speaking just for myself. With the treadmill, I could, and I used to do this in my personal training studio. We had treadmills and we had ellipticals in there. I had a few of them. And what I would do oftentimes is when I was working either on my phone working or I'm writing something or I want to read something, I could multitask easier with the treadmill than I could with like an elliptical or definitely a rower because a rower requires your hand. So I could put the book up on the platform, whatever the screen for the treadmill and I would just do a slow walk. So rather than just sitting and reading and believe it or not, for someone like me, that movement actually helped me stay focused. I would actually absorb more of what I was reading, but I would walk at a slow pace. It would be like, you know, with a three or whatever. And I'd put the book up on the platform and I would just read and I'd be there for 45 minutes just to be active. I didn't even mention the jump row but that's my go to, mainly because like the timing of it and the snap and the power, that is a great, you know, way to translate to, you know, athletic moves and just be more explosive. And it's just like a repetitive pattern that you're trained in your body to respond and get that recoil really quick. And it requires a lot of skill. I mean, there's no doubt about that. Like you have to really work your way through that so you can get to the timing and the body position and when and where you need to like add your bits of inflection. So it's definitely something though that I always go back to that to make sure that I have that skill. Next question is from Joyful JJ. My dad started working out again but he has terrible form. I don't want him to hurt himself but I don't want to discourage him either. How can I help him? Well, this goes to your point you made earlier in the episode, Sal. Like, you know, get him on mobility, man. You know, here's, this is something I want to add to this though, okay. Just because you're focusing on mobility doesn't mean you're not working out or exercising. Hey, ask Doug that. Yeah, yesterday I was really straining. Yeah, well. How does it work out? Well, look, okay. All right, a little bit of sweat. Here's something that I want to clear up. I actually said this on Becky Campbell's channel yesterday. There's this belief that if you focus on correctional exercise and mobility, that you're going to get slower results, that you're not going to get as greater results. So it's either, it's either or. Either I want the muscle building and the fat loss and the strength or I just want to do correctional exercise and mobility. It's actually, that's not true. The truth is, you'll get there faster and better by working on mobility, especially when you look at it in longer terms, three months, six months in a year. If you start your workout properly and you focus on correctional exercise, if you focus on mobility, not only are you going to, are you doing it the better way with less chance of injury and all that stuff, you're going to get there faster and more effectively anyway. So the only choice is to do it. There is one right way is my point. It's not like, oh, you know, I'm giving one up for the other. It's only one that's the right way. And so start with mobility. That is his workout right now for sure. Well, yeah, that was it. Done. Short and sweet. Next question is from Russell Gerwer. My kids and I have been using maps anywhere. It allows me to get my workouts in and teach them a few things about exercise. What adjustments, if any, do you recommend to program for children? That's a really good question. So when it comes to kids and working out with kids, there's a couple of things that I think you want to consider. One, can they do the movement with what seems, what looks like good stability and good control? If the answer is yes, then the movement's appropriate. How long is there a tension span doing these exercises? That's the other big one. Yeah. You know, when I would train, so when I would train teenagers, I'd say over the age of 14, I could do an hour workout with them, especially if I did a good job talking with them in between sets and, you know, kind of joking around and having fun. When I would train kids, because I did train a few kids, you know, under the age of 12, really, really tough to keep them in a structured workout that isn't play, because play is easy. You can do play. I can play with a kid for two hours. No problem. But like a structured, like, okay, you got to do this, you got to watch your form, make sure your knee is doing this. You're looking at, like, 20, 30 minutes. Yeah. It's about maybe 20, 30 minutes, Max, for most kids. After that, you're just creating a torturous... Yeah. And if that's the case too, like, I adjust on the fly. I try to at least get like two to three, maybe exercises that I'm like, okay, like, we're going to buckle down, we're going to focus and concentrate, and at least, like, I feel like we accomplish something when, you know, they can remain focused and get what they need to get out of those very specific exercises and learn it as a skill. And then after that, it's like, okay, I'm just going to kind of work this on the fly of, like, let's make this fun, let's make this engaging, let's add a little bit of, like, a game to this, or, you know, something that's going to keep them, you know, going through the rest of the movements. And really with kids, for the most part, it's the activity. That's really the biggest part, you know, kids need to focus on, really, general play. And so, you know, like pulling things, pushing things, you know, running, climbing, like all these, very important, their body awareness, proprioception, that's the biggest concern for me always with kids is to be able to establish that. So then they can build upon that later as they develop. So I had a reasonable amount of success with this, with training my clients, kids, like with the boot camp class, I used to do this on, like once a month, I'd let them bring their kids and we would do something with them. And it took me a while to figure out and everything you guys are saying is like so spot on. I mean, kids' attention is tough and it's about moving more than anything else. And so I couldn't take them through these same series of workouts that I was taking my clients and so it forced me to try and get creative. And one of the things that I had pretty good success with I like to do, and you can come up with your own test, right? So I would create this little test, kids love reward systems, right? So I would, whatever that is as a parent, whether that be a treat that you do or more time on their iPad or find some sort of a reward system for them beating themselves, right? So what I would do is say, all right, son, this is what we're going to do today. We are going to do, and I did this on a field, right? So I had this room. So we would go on a football field. The first exercise might be like walking lunges. And I'd say, you and I together, let's do walking lunges as far as we can. And you tell me when you can't do anymore. And so we would just walk until they're like, Oh, I can't do anymore. That's too much. Okay. That was, you know, 52 lunges, walking lunges you did or whatever the number is. And then I would write it down. So now I know then we do push-ups, then we do sit-ups, and then we do a 100-yard dash and back sprint. And I would time it. And so I get a series of like exercises and movements. I would time all of them and calculate how many presidential physical fitness. Yeah, right. Exactly. Something basic like that. Yeah. And that's kind of where this came from is like, I knew that this was back when that was, I don't know if they still do that at schools. But I remembered that. And, you know, this would help these kids when they would go to test for these things. And then what I would do is just trying to get them to compete with themselves. And then I would reward them for beating themselves the next time. So now the next time that we did that, you know, if you shaved off one second, then, you know, we would, you would get your whatever reward or treat or whatever or celebrate, you know, every kid's different. Some kids just want to be recognized and high five and oh my God, you're improving, you're amazing. Some kids will need something like, hey, that gives me an extra half hour of iPad time, whatever. But find something like that. Put together a series of exercises or movements. Have them test it one time. Don't tell them you're doing that. Just have them see how many you can do, track it, and then just try to get them to improve each time. You'd be surprised how many kids feed right into that. That's, yeah. The measurable is a big one. Like, okay, you just put a stop watch in front of them. Can you hold this for 10 seconds? Yeah, hold a plank, right? And then you put it right in front of them and then all of a sudden now they can measure, you know, off of the thing and they get competitive and you have a lot of fun. The other thing too is while you're doing this with them, and I love doing this with my kids, is it's not necessarily about the workout. So what I mean is if we're sitting there doing mobility or stretching, it's not necessarily about the like, do you feel the stretch? Do you, we'll get in the position, I'll watch their form and I'll correct their form as we go along. But then I'll ask a question like, if you could have any super power, what would it be and why? Or I'd say something like, you know, if you if you, what would you rather have super, you know, intelligence or super strength, and we have these fun conversations while we're doing the positions and then while they're answering, I say, hold on, you know, hold your head up high, you know, get your posture better. Okay, go ahead. Now, what were you saying? And we have these conversations and it makes it a lot of fun. I love family workout time. I do think it's going to take away from probably your own intensity and stuff like that. So it's probably going to have to be an addition to your workouts. But one last point I want to make, any workout is appropriate for a child. If the child can perform the movements and exercises with good control, good stability, good overall mobility. It doesn't matter. Barbell squat, deadlift, overhead press, clean and snatch. I can give you the craziest exercises. If the child can perform them well with good control, good stability, then that exercise is probably appropriate. Now, how you apply the exercise with intensity and reps and all that stuff, totally, totally different conversation. And some exercises are more often than not going to be inappropriate for a kid than others. But I know maps anywhere. We created the program. Most of the stuff on there, have your kid try it. You know your kid, watch their form. If joints are out of whack, if things are wobbly, if they don't have good control and good stability, okay, we're not going to do that exercise. You know, it's great because it's body weight, you know, the majority of the exercises. And this is just something that you can, you know, take that time to really coach them through that. And a point I was going to make, listening to Adam bring that up reminded me, I used to download these hit apps. They were like timer apps. And you can adjust the tempo on them and the timing of it. And so, I would slow that tempo down and give them like beats. In every beat, they had to like drop down at a certain cadence or they had to hold the position for 10 to 20 seconds. And so, I would have them hold positions in the push-up. I'd have them hold positions at the bottom of the squat. And it's really with kids to get them to slow down is a huge accomplishment. That's a tool you know in your toolbox. It's like you're making it a game. Here's a fun, here's one example of fun. You know the single leg toe touch, right? You balance on one leg, you reach down, touch the floor, touch your toes, stand back up. It's a nice posterior chain exercise. Here's a fun way to do it with kids. You take a bunch of pencils, you drop them next to their foot and say, how many of them can you pick up before your other foot hits the ground? And now they're having fun. They're bending over, they're picking it up and all my foot touched the floor. I only picked up three. All right, how many can you do? How many can you do? And you just do this fun game competition. Next question is from Jay Lee Ann. Are fitness tests such as the standard 2.4 kilometer run, one minute AMRAP push-ups and sit-ups a good measure of people's physical fitness or are there better tests? You know, I hate when people say things like, you know, this is these tests tell us that this person is the best most fit, fitness. Now I'm not talking about health. Where is this from? What test is that? Yeah, I don't know. I was trying to find that out because it just reminded me of our, I mean, we were kind of talking about the presidential physical fitness standard, you know. Yeah, we did those. And I remember, I enjoyed it a lot because like, I mean, I crushed it pretty much, you know, compared to all my peers. But, you know, it was, we had like a sit and reach. Okay, we had like the one mile run. We had the pull-ups, push-ups, and what else, am I forgetting something? I think that's it. Yeah. You know which one? Dips, maybe. You're gonna mess me up all the time was the sit and reach. I used to hate that. I used to crush everything. And then I went right there. Every boy sucked at that. What hurt me. Yeah, so here's the thing. Forget, okay. So healthy is different, okay. Fitness is measured by maybe performance. Very specific. Is somebody who can do a really fast 2.4 kilometer run, you know, one minute AMRAP push-ups and sit-ups. Do they have great fitness for Olympic weightlifting? No. Do they have great fitness for boxing? Probably not. So it's very specific. Yeah, they're good at running. They're good at push-ups. They're good at sit-ups if they do that, right? Yeah, so it's kind of a very, fitness is a very specific thing. I would say what you might want to do instead is break up your performance into a few different categories. Maybe strength, endurance, you know, mobility and flexibility. Maybe those three I'd say would be the general ones. And then have a component in each one of those. I don't know. What do you guys think? Well, I do. Here's something that I will... Maybe explosive jumping. This does smell very cross-fitting to me. Yeah. But I will take... And that stinks. To give it credit, it does have some validity because I always tend to go back. Like I've said on the show at least a handful of times where you might hear me say like, you know, we talk about like, cardio, this, cardio, that. But I always get on the treadmill, you know, at least once a month and just see what I got for a mile. And it is a gauge for me to know if that's getting significantly worse. Am I maintaining? Am I getting a little better? And I want to be able to run a mile if I ever do it. So it's something that like I've always inserted into my training no matter what I'm focused on. And you know, it may not add a lot of value to my, you know, map strong workout or whatever. But I want to know. I want to know, can I still run a mile under a certain time, right? So there's value to that. I also do this thing where I do full-lever sit-ups and I go to 100 and I try and get them out as many as I can. And it gives me feedback on kind of where my fitness level is. And the same thing, every once in a while I mess around and I drop down and just wrap out as many push-ups as I can without stopping to see how many I'm at. And so, you know, it's a good gauge for myself to kind of see where I'm at. But it is very specific. I could be deadlifting 500-something pounds but then not be able to run a mile because I haven't been doing it, you know? Yeah, I'm trying to think. I liked the standards of being able to lift your own body weight or more within specific foundational lifts. I always want to look back and see, is making sure that I'm at least lifting more on my body weight or double it, right? No, that's a good one. I think even, I mean, double is a good goal for us personally because we love fitness, Piaff. As long as you've been in it. No, if you can bench squat and dead your body weight, you're relatively strong. Especially bench. Yeah, it's a hard one for a lot of people to do. It is, but I mean, if you can bench squat, deadlift your weight, how much you weigh at least, you're pretty dang strong, you know? That's not bad at all. Yeah, the way I like to, the way I would communicate it to clients was can you, do you have good enough health and fitness to where you're not struggling when you play with your kids or when you run at the park or when you're moving boxes or moving the couch because you've got a vacuum underneath it? Are you, do you have pain or do you have no pain? Do you wake up in the morning and feel like you could just get up? Do you have good energy, good health? I think generally speaking, those are probably, those are the things you might want to kind of look like. Yeah, if I had to structure it, it would definitely be like a joint, you know, tests, for mobility. And then you would have like how much, like if you can lift your body weight with those standard lifts and then some kind of an endurance component, right? So it could be the mile run or it could be some other form of cardio test that you choose. Yeah, the endurance one I do is, can I do more than 10 curls? Can I walk from the couch to outside? I don't breathe. I did 11 curls. My endurance is pretty good right now. And with that, go to mindpumpfree.com and download all of our guides and resources. You can also find the three of us on Instagram. You can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin. Adam is at Mind Pump Adam. And me, I'm at Mind Pump Sal.