 He looked good to me, like I didn't see anything wrong neurologically, like what these, this doctor on the internet saying. From this perspective, I've performed neurological exams on quite a few patients over my years. And people are trying to say, and then I'm not a doctor, so I'm not even finna diagnose it. My wife, when she saw Earl Spence enter the ring, she asked me, she's like, he looks like he's on marijuana. He has residual neurological damage. Don't boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Here we go. And the next question, do you feel like, because I hear people keep saying, the wreck still impact him. There's a violent crash overnight as a Ferrari flipped on a Dallas street. In that car was Earl Spence Jr. He's the boxing champion. I hear people saying that too. Do you feel, you knew him after the wreck. And before the wreck. And before the wreck and you were training with him even then. Do you feel like that wreck still affects him today? Not just mentally, I'm talking physically. One, two, three, four, five, up top, up top, up top. No butting, Earl. So I'm gonna say this, I trained him for the Pacquiao fight that was after the wreck, right? Cause Earl daddy called me to train him for Danny Garcia, but for some reason it never worked out. But when he got the Danny fight, okay, boom, we rocked in. And from what I seen, when I trained him for Pacquiao, with nothing wrong with him. Scratch business. From a physical standpoint, he was, from a physical standpoint, he was ready. Just like he was before. And I'm gonna tell you something. I believe this is my personal opinion. What was that? I feel like that, I feel like that it was God stepped in. Yeah. I believe it was God saving Mani Pacquiao from Earl. That's what I honestly believe. Really? Nah, that's what I believe. Earl is gonna kill that boy, no cap. So he didn't want, God didn't want that to be seen. Didn't want his legacy. Listen, listen, so. You believe that Pacquiao, that Earl was gonna kill Pacquiao when he come down to totally destroy, I mean, oh, you know, basically control the fight, maybe even knock him out. Nah, he was gonna stop him for sure. Knock him out for sure, because see the Mani Pacquiao fight, that was the first fight I ever trained him with weights. You know a trainer would weight with any other fight? No, no, no. Everything is body weight. Body weight, we did all body weight training. So why did you say that? He was that monstrous with body weight training. Why did you feel like it was important to do weights with this fight? Well, I always wanted to train him with weights. He just wouldn't let me. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Because a lot of boxers think in their mind that if you use weights, that it's gonna slow them down, but it depends that a lot of trainers don't know what they're doing. You know what I'm saying? But I know what I'm doing. So that fight here allowed me to use weight. Now, we didn't use heavy weights. Now, don't get it twisted. But we did use, you know, to resist the training with weights for that particular fight. And I just believed, and I don't lie, as a trainer, I was like, this is because I finally got the, because he was gonna have a power that y'all never seen. You know what I'm saying? Because all that was before that, as dominant he was, that was what cal status. Now I get to really, really, he let the guy, Earl was like, trust me a little bit more and let the reins off. You know what I'm saying? So I finally got to use weights. That was my first fight with that. Man, I can't wait to see how Earl gonna be, but you know, I had messed up some. Now when you think about weights though, because you're a trainer, people who do anything with weights take the chance of getting injured as well. Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing. Right, compared to just doing body weight, you don't really get injured doing body weight. No, thanks. Totally agree. So that's another thing, and that's his career. No, I totally agree. But you know, like I said, we built a relationship so well, and you know, I'm like, man, Earl, let me do that. And he finally said, all right, big, but you know what I'm saying? But like I said, I had the situation. It was unfortunate, but you know. Do you think that after that, you didn't train him after that, I think, or did you train him? No, no, no. I didn't train him for Uggas. After I trained him. He wasn't somebody else, he wasn't somebody else. I said, Drew, you didn't train him. Yeah, he wasn't somebody else for this fight too, so. Okay, so what did you see when it come down to the way he moved around in the ring, far as after his eye training, because like I said, you've seen him from a perspective of you knew how he fought, you watched how he moved, you watched how his conditioning was. Make me understand how you felt about it, cause you was watching if that red new, if everything had healed properly. Well, he looked good to me. Like the Uggas fight, he looked good. You know what I'm saying? I don't, I don't, I don't think he was as strong as he was when I worked with him. But you know, but you know, he looked good to me. Like I didn't see anything wrong neurologically. Like what these, this doctor on the internet saying. You know, from this perspective, I've performed neurological exams on quite a few patients over my years. And people are trying to say, and then I'm not a doctor, so I'm not even finna diagnose it. My wife, when she saw Earl Spence enter the ring, she asked me, she's like, he looks like he's on marijuana. He has residual neurological damage. And I believe that Earl will have, you know, his dad loves him, his mom loves him. I think that it will be smart for him. He has the means to be able to go get the top people to analyze him, to make sure that everything is right neurologically. And then, you know, there's certain tests that you have to pass going into a, to a fight. So I would pray that, you know, that everything was done right. Nobody was paid off. And if something was wrong, that they would allow him to continue to fight. But I don't, I think Earl is smart enough to use his resources to be able to make sure that he's a hundred percent. Because this is his life. You know what I'm saying? He got to take care of his kids. He got to have life after boxing. And we've seen people in the past, like Muhammad Ali, Gerald McCullough, you know, people that I really like, you know, and we've seen the aftermath of not taking care of your body, you know, or not just having the right people around you to assess these things. When that car started flipping, I seen that car. He even said that his tooth, he had to get it too. Cause he says he thought his teeth had came out when he would put it at the partial end in the fight, you know, in the other fight where he almost, where he stumbled cause he, and he smiled. He thought, man, I thought my teeth had came out. To impact you, to where your car flipped, you fall out, your front's gone, your face cut. This is not a normal wreck. We know that. I agree. To throw out of a car moving and flipping like that car was flipping. Like, but to see him come back and then win that fight was big for me. You know what I mean? He was good. He was good against the damage. But to see him the other night and to see him, the way he was maneuvering around the ring after the fight took off and he got hit with a few blows from Terrence made me think about Neurological Damage. Neurological Damage. Neurological Damage. Because you don't know, but I heard Crawford say after the match, I hit him, I was hitting him in his ear to throw off his equilibrium. You heard him say that, No, I didn't hear him say that. Okay. Bro, I was done with that fight. When I say I was done, I didn't watch the post nothing. Yeah, I heard him say that. Going into this fight, do you think this next fight do even have a chance to win this fight? I believe he has a chance for sure. I believe he has a chance if he... Well, you put some money on it. No, I'm not putting the money on it. Oh, that boy got hurt last time. There it is. If I don't put no money on it. No, listen, if I don't work with him, I'm not putting the money on it. You put money on it before? I did, because I got faith in him. But now you feel like it's a little bit more strange. No, I still got faith in Earl, but I just believe that, like I said, I seen some of the all access, I seen some of the preparation. And me personally, I didn't like the preparation, but I had already made my best before I seen the preparation. So I was already locked in. So you got all those texts. Exactly, I was already locked in on the fight. When the fight was made, I made my best. You know what I'm saying? Okay. We're talking about the way in which Earl was fighting and stuff like that, or the different stipulations that the Boxing Federation have where you can't just go into a fight any and any how. Is there an option where, if the Boxer signs a waiver, like he takes all responsibility, like nothing falls on them, would they allow something like that? No, that's not even like, that's not even a thing in the Boxing. Okay, I didn't know. That's not even a thing in the Boxing. Okay, I was just curious. Like say everything is done by the people that put it together. You know what I mean? They got all the doctors and how they handle their situation, which I'm not privy to that information, but there is a process and a protocol on even getting the fight sanctioned.