 Wednesday Weekie tree, it's I've dubbed it weekie tree challenge Wednesday. That's just that's just what it is now. I Hope everyone's doing fan. Good evening. Good morning. Good afternoon Depending on where you are. We have a small we have a small that just Well, just have a great time anyway. We always have great time So I'll do quick introductions even though there's only three of us I'll take a while. No, so I'm Sarah I'm a weekie tree team member and then we have Mindy our overall week tree challenge coordinator, and then we have Devon no Lee who is our guest star that we're gonna be wrapping up this evening and we're all super excited We are also kicking off the week for Nathan Dylan Goodwin He's not he can't join us today because he's in a different time zone. So he's sleeping but We will still introduce him and his week will be started after we'll probably right now anyway So if you do have any questions while we're going through everything, please leave them in the chat And we'll answer and we'll we'll ask and answer those questions And then unless there's anything else I guess we can Talk about well first. Hold on get it. I'm getting ahead of myself for those of you who are maybe new to watching this We let me tell you a little bit about weekie tree and the weekie tree challenge. So Weekie tree is a community of genealogists who are working together on a single family tree In other words, we collaborate to grow an accurate global tree that connects us all and most Markably, it's free The weekie tree challenges our year-long event as part of our year of Accuracy where each week a team of weekie tree years takes on a genealogy a genealogy guest stars tree and Collaborates to make it more accurate and complete than it is anywhere else Our goal is to improve our accuracy on weekie tree add more family connections and Make more friends. So that is that So now We can delve in to revealing all of the goodies that we have found for the week She was chatting away That's okay I'm gonna give a little bit of information first on how we score this for our participants Of course, we mostly do it for the pleasure and the fun, but we are humans So a little bit of you know competition out there just gets the keeps the juices going now. We'll have our Little points which are one point apiece for adding any direct nuclear Relative or direct ancestor that is not a brick wall so siblings children spouses and then those brick wall ancestors are 10 points apiece Yeah, those are the fun ones to get and actually the other ones add up faster But you know, I guess it depends on how many brick walls you break down And can we go ahead and see yes, let's go to our beautiful Collaboration right and while we're doing this these are the ways that we collaborate now on the left you see our spreadsheet We list everybody that's participating that week and they hopefully are putting the profile They're working on because when you get 30 40 50 people working on one set of branches It can get pretty crowded and people start bumping into each other So that's kind of how we tell people. Hey, I'm working on this one right now on the right. You see the g2g post That's our genealogist a genealogist forum. We put a post out there each week for Devon's week We haven't broke down into the great-grandparents and they can put down discoveries questions what they're working on and Hopefully they're brick walls They don't always remember that they get excited and they don't always remember to post them So the third way we collaborate and you know, I don't know how we can do it without a bit discord And this is our live chat, of course, and we are a global site So we have people all over the world different time zones There's almost always somebody in there and there's always people chatting and it's great because you can cheer each other on You can ask somebody to look at a profile or a source for you get a second set of eyes You can get a translation. You can say hey, does somebody have time to look up this obituary all kinds of things in discord And yes, we do have a few that are like Chris and a little silly in there sometimes But you know keeps everybody going so gotta have that live chat And I'm looking at one person asking about the thumb signs, and I'm like, yes, I have an answer Now This is our MVP and actually I have to say we had a sudden upset and this has not been updated Oh, no, when I said people were working on your branches still I'm gonna people were working on your branches still So as of an hour ago your MVP most valuable player and that means he got the most total points That's we count the bounty points any other points to get we put it all together That's who got the most points was Dieter leave it ends and he's one of our German experts. Yay Yeah, second was Chris Ferriero third was anonymous sharky Fourth was Robin Baker and fifth was Anne Browning nice to see some different names up in the rotation But I do have to say that Robin hopped on up there into second place Oh She she she went up to Chris She was showing up higher than that on mine. Do you have the bounty point showing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I Just refresh it. So yeah, she was not in second place Oh She's been busy and now you have to wait for a few minutes and see how she was busy and what she I know we're all a tease and Then let's go ahead and look at the the totals on those stats since we're there The first thing we're looking at of course. There is that total points. I was talking about Dieter has a hundred and fifty two Total for our team that counted was four hundred and seventy seven Created ancestors there were sixty six direct created ancestors for you And then the created relative are the nuclear families only so we're not counting cousins uncles, whatever 271 nuclear relatives Added on well, thank you everybody. Yeah, and then bounty points your bounty points that are a hundred and forty So that means fourteen brick walls broken down Okay, I'm hoping it's a guy's door Not not telling yet Profiles edited and you know if you see this down and you're kind of looking at the bottom of it there's some people that don't have total points and that's because there's even more people than this that actually worked on your branches now we have people that do things like go off and work on free space pages or You know, they just write some narrative up for somebody like I said they'll go look up Obituaries and stuff like that and so those people aren't getting points But there's still it shows up as a contribution as an edit most of them do so eight hundred and fifty one Unique profiles edited and then for them. Yeah total edit So that's every time somebody went in changed a date added some sources did anything to a profile Three thousand and five hundred in one week All right. Oh Go wiki trios. That doesn't count all the extra stuff Yeah, I didn't bring you I didn't bring my pie Weren't we gonna do key lime pie I was gonna do like I'll have to do a smore, but I don't That's all I have in the house Anyway, I'm a fire nut. Let's go now we have our first. Are you ready? okay Okay, and here it is and No, we don't make any great progress on that geyser line and poor leader. He worked really hard He found out a bunch of bunch of really cool interesting information about other people that migrated over So you'll still have plenty of reading to do and new information to play with But but no brick walls on that line. That's okay On the Hmm am I out of order? Oh on the Evelyn peak line Okay, this went out to Hugh von night. He is your 13th great-grandfather Okay, it was a Welshman apparently of low birth He fought the last judicial duel Sanctioned by the court of chivalry in front of King Henry the seven in 1492 and he held several roles in the English Royal Court during his service to the crown I'm two of our wiki-triers Lander Ford and I think that's supposed to be Leandra and Susan officer I've been working really hard on that profile And I'd like to say you know like where I talked about how you see people that don't have those points We had people like Greg Clark. He's the one that does our fan charts and whatnot I'm he actually worked on your branches this week and there's just so many people I couldn't listen behind the scenes that just they get really focused in and they get so excited and they just work Really hard all week on what they're getting so I think you know even if they didn't take brick walls down We worked a lot on the accuracy Which it's our year for accuracy and those brick walls are just the icing on the cake But I do really appreciate all of them. They all amaze me look they have a really he has a really nice biography, too That's nice for sure I didn't know I went to Welsh If John tiner is gonna be upset that it's not Irish, but you know, hey, I have no control of that Wow, okay, so that's at the peak line, which is my George's wife's family line right, okay, right And we had several on this as matter of fact We have a lot on this line mostly because the townlies come off of this and So Catherine Foster Townling she was already established on wiki tree once the right connections were made you gain 15 new Ancestors on that connection. So that was pretty exciting and I don't even know who Catherine Foster Townley is I'm guessing she's up That effingham Townley wine I'm guessing okay Cool I guess you gotta gotta go on to the branch and figure out who they are I just I just spent last year trying to connect John Townley from Cincinnati, Ohio to The effingham Townley and so once I could lock into that that would be great. So Yeah And Then Effingham your fifth-grade grandfather and his tombstone we found interesting It says farewell. Yee friends whose tender care has long engaged my love your fond embrace I now exchange for better friends above Humor And then on this line also they did Proven error they said unfortunately that John Elijah peak now he died in 1695 So he's another one that's not going to be fresh on your brain. He's way out there He is not the son of John peak or grandson of his parents William peak He's also not the son of a different John there looks like there was a lot of John peaks Not John peaks in your house Patterson. So that family was really conflated on family search Okay, and without name being so common. We didn't actually find the right one, but we were able to disprove several appearance, so that was okay Almost as important. I'm sure some people aren't family search are gonna be mad But we don't care about family search care about Well, we don't care about mad We do care about Yes, we use it a lot. Yes, and then some of Richard Townley's details had also been Completed and they were very carefully considered and untangled by a team member It was also discovered that Richard's mother was not Latisse shuttle worse Okay tree has the Townley family all the way back to Richard Townley born in 1313 Yeah, and they're they're well documented and there's a must-read page on Wikipedia that involves them Really awesome, you know and the one of the things that you see on like a tree all four warning because you'll see everything We worked out to you where we connected is very well proven and And then as you go back to some of those profiles It'll be like from the earlier days of Wikipedia. They're quite as filled out, you know But then you get back a little bit further and you'll see where the projects take over and this is where they go back and make Sure those really early ancestors that have thousands and thousands of descendants Look like how you saw your your William guy, you know the profiles look beautiful. So sure It was next one is exciting I think This was your white sackfield line, so I don't know how much you did a lot on that line Devin, but we had a small crowd of researchers They were just so excited about this now Richard Townley's mother was Joan white Townley And she presented a really stubborn brick wall and her parents were discovered to be William white Who was born before 1593 and Mary sackfield white? Mary had no less illustrious ancestry two project members tracked her line back through at least two members of Parliament your royalty here one of them was Christopher sackfield born around 1509 now his mother was Margaret Boland sackville. So You know of the Boland's that in the United States They learn about it, but in England they do William Boland who was knighted by Richard the third These lines added more than a hundred ancestors to your branches. I mean it was just crazy So if you look on the left there, you know That's like where it starts out and not quite filled in but those couple of lines every time you clicked You just kept finding these new pages full of new ancestors and it leads back to that's William Boland there in the in the middle. It really fun stuff to read cool And actually one of the bowlands is actually a Profile of the week this week a ghost. Yes She was clean and she's a ghost so interesting ancestors a ghosty queen Well, I think I chose my shirt. Well, I mean you're finding what I have my shirt it says keep calm and watch full dark So you found some English ancestors that's very Okay Yeah, more townlies, I'm telling you we just kept finding them Some more early ancestors so you have Walter de Bailey who was born in 1238 he married a lady with the name of America and Family search line broadly agrees with wiki tree, but we take it back a little bit further than they do so in that line actually goes back to 1120 and Yeah, there's just a lot of people to discover on the way search Robert Sherburne Born about 1215 also broadly agrees with family search another brick Somebody that was already on wiki tree Alice Blackburn Sherburne Born about 1280 her mother was Margaret Holland Benastra and her father Thurston Holland that line goes back to Matthew Holland before 1181 in Lancashire England and then before that the ancestry is disputed, but yeah, how fun is it to have all those ancestors that are that? Yeah, that is exciting Good job Did you see that how the what they said about that you chose your ancestors you chose your family very well, I Was born into the family, so I'm not sure I did much choosing so That there's something more than Andy's line Yes, I know about this. I'm starting that is my grandma and Helen's line So right and then after finding the marriage for him a team member discovered that his father was Johann Zemstein, so that was a brick wall down. Yeah, there did it takes you back one more. He's another Johannes Zemstein and then There was a correction also made to Johann Peter Chanel born 1629 His mother was Katharina Priam Chanel and that once knew and then oh This was just kind of fun We added something on this line about one of the comforts and I know we haven't rolled over into the comfort line yet The son of your seventh great-grandfather John comfort paid the survey fees for his neighbor Frederick E He was granted this land in 1795 and they had given him, you know told him how much he owed in taxes and in 1806 so 11 years later. He still owed these taxes and your you know great great great great uncle Robert Who's in his early 70s went and paid his taxes for him. So we just thought you know, that's that's kind of neat You always look at these profiles of people and you trying kind of get an idea of who they are as people and You know just fun to find that those little bits out that show. Yeah, they were really they really cared about people And you guys changed the name of a Filipino Malta. We've never seen the Maria in front of her name before She's always just been but she's awesome because her boys went to Canada before her and her husband did and they built a log cabin and And had four sides, but no windows and no roof and she arrives and she's tired and she says Their family legend says, how am I supposed to get in and then boys are like we just tossed you over the side Yeah Now I don't know how truthful that is because it's a family legend but that barn or that log cabin was there until they built then the The one of the other houses and then they turned that wood into the barn that's still there today. So it's I love this. I'm science in Canada. They're fun to research Neat Now we get some comfortable land The comfort slain smooth cider Snyder's and some science There's kind of a little I wouldn't say endogenous, but they were definitely intertwined. Good job, Greg. Yep. Yeah On that. Oh Any color-cutting did he color-coat that there? Yeah, yeah, he took the time to go ahead and put where they all actually Made it. I like I put like little numbers before that's what we cool that he put the color code great Awesome job. We love great, but we love everybody, but you know Taking a bit to love so go back. Yeah, it's quite a large image. Good job Yeah, this free space page and just so you know the free space pages don't actually count towards all the edits that are counted on that Scoring sheet so just so much more that has gone into your week then was actually counted Greg would you like to elaborate about the well, I guess you'd have to read it. I don't know about the fence dispute That's great You between Robert Comfort and neighbor Nathan Joss Johnson regarding trespass dispute over fence slide Fence line and 10 acres of wheat. Oh There's further evidence and it has links to the micro So the actual source and there's character witnesses Wow Payment for 200 acres. Yeah, so what look this is a pretty cool free space page So now and I haven't really started working on the comforts all that much we have a book that was printed in 1993 and it's just a bunch of group sheets, but this is amazing. So thank you Walk through all this stuff again You'll get a link to all of these to some of our ladies also did some different free space pages. So That's nice. Give me some fun with stuff to look through Okay, so Greg used to just keep smiling. I'm so proud of you. Thank you and anybody else who worked on that. That's awesome We're proud of everybody. Yes Now my comforts is my UEL line my United Empire loyalist line I'm not sure about everybody else. I don't think so because the Snyder's are Swedish That's I'm trying to German and I'm so bad. I don't know where the lanes and roots are from off the top of my head So we'll have to see Lizzie was just mentioning how that maybe we could be sisters with our same energy and we're also wearing the same color so Well, I have to say I told her she was wearing the wrong color last week And so subliminally I put it in her mind that she needed to wear maroon this week And she put it on without thinking and then I saw it and I switched my search because I was And I wanted to be maroon She was in the back of my head all day. Yes. Oh my gosh. This is exciting. Good. Okay. What? Okay, I got more lines This line Johan Antoni is Klein. Mm-hmm. This was a correction His parents were Conrad Klein the son of Baltazar Klein and Eva cropping Klein the daughter of Hans Peter cropping So, you know, if we'd had more time, maybe it would have been able to take the clients back a little bit further But still that gave you five newly ancestors. So nice. That's exciting Thank you for all the Germans And it was Dieter and some stuff in a language that I probably German Okay, the pickles I know the pickles I was sucked in a dark hole by the pickles How much luck you had and I do and I do want to ask if you don't mind since you know that what line so well How you came up with a connection for Joseph and Gabriel? that actually is before me and I haven't brought I done the pickles because Jane fickle married Charles Gordon and Gerald Gordon's father is always in dispute And then it just goes back one more generation to the tan hill the fickle town hill And that's kind of where I stopped because it's home. Any people mess around with the pickles But I think I think Jane's like ants or knees or something I don't have it in front of me when I see it. I know it, but I think she married a Brown so there's there's there's multiple pickles marrying in together And I haven't been able to prove 100% that it all makes sense but I have a theory that The multiple pixels one flange into the Gordon the brown and you know, whatever You know, I we tried and just could not find that that connection Oh, and although on the last ditch effort trying to look through the wills now the little books that would have been When get around the time Gabriel died are like the only one's not index And it's only a 600 it's only a 649 page book. So, you know, we got through like a hundred pages of it Maybe we'll keep reading more But in the meantime trying to look at the different locations in any record we possibly could of course You know, you see on that map Go back to it Sarah. Oh, sorry. That's okay. Real quick Benjamin and William and Joseph fickle and Joseph, of course is your direct line And I just think it's too much You know of a coincidence that they're not related They would have to be with them all purchasing their land so close together and I think you know, if Benjamin's not Like a sibling he would be a you know a close cousin And there weren't a whole lot of fickles in the area So it's not like they're overrun and you know, you have no idea But there's there's still more that can be tracked on on that But yeah, we got a we got a lot of good information I Yeah, go ahead That's some we got some good biographies for you to read Yes, a couple of those on the space page for you, you know, so you can know which ones to go click I know you wanted to read a couple different writing styles And I'm hoping that our team members will still maybe think of a profile and throw it on there because we'd like to see more Now in looking at the stuff for Joseph fickle and actually I don't know if you'd seen it There was an article about his grandson Silas fickle That was very interesting and it did say starting looking into that that Joseph was of Dutch descent is how they put it and his wife of scotch Descent, okay, so we didn't work on his wife's line. That's supposed to be Scottish what Scottish Irish possibly Not sure now Silas and his father hit was George. So Joseph's son George Okay, both served in the Union side during the Civil War and then Silas was kind of interesting He was quite a man. He wound up being shot not too far into the war right above the knee They didn't amputation of his lower leg They had complications from that they did a further amputation. He only wound up with like five inches below the hip To get married he had a daughter with his wife. They adopted a son He took in a granddaughter and helped raise her for seven years. He was a shoemaker by trade I mean, he's just a really interesting good man, you know, and when he retired he moved to Probably closer to town, you know From where he was and just all about people had said, you know, he him and his wife were just really great people They were just really upstanding citizens of the town and they just really appreciated him So that was just kind of cool to see too. Yeah, for sure And I did learn that fickle with doing the reading fickle with an L E at the end is more of the English spelling and fickle with EL at the end is the German spelling now I know there were like five five variations of how you could spell fickle But the early ones that did come in did spell it with the EL. They had the German Spelling for it Nice nice, okay the Hankinsen I know nothing about the Hankinsen fire And Joseph B. Hankinsen One of our team members was researching on this and just found it interesting and said it I actually took the time to draw out the plots of what which part of his land went to which child instead of you Know just writing it out the boring way in the in the well. That's actually drawn out. So Joseph's five children were Henry William Simeon Margaret and Susanna and they actually waited Henry was not of age He actually made them wait until Henry was of age to split the property So it wasn't just that Henry didn't get his land until then nobody got their land until Yeah, and then they they all got it once he became of age and then we had Joshua Woodruff Hankinsen. He was your second great-grandfather now He was in a gun club and they had written they had written a newspaper article and claim the scores were bad that week because of wait for it defective pigeons There's a pigeon No, of course, you know, we're all focused on genealogy So we're thinking very literally and somebody's like, how do you have a defective pigeon? Well, it's not because the clay pigeons they use of course are those discs, you know So no birds were injured in the making of this story at all but it was it was a fun little bit of information and then Mary Ellen Hankinsen, I don't know if you knew this either I'm sure you knew about the big Hankinsen family reunion that happened in 1900 and one of our team members did actually do a space page on that. She's like, no, I don't look at that line I honestly because see this was my grandmother's biological father's line and Who the guy was I was like, oh, I'm kind of done, but I'm excited to go read you guys gave me something to read so One of yeah, one of their children and she says probably so the team member But if you look at the dates on the article Compared to the daughter Mary Ellen Hankinsen's death records everything is the same on it She was a patient in the insane asylum From Likin County and she crawled through the bar the wind bars on a window five stories up Jump down to one a one-story roof hit that and Unfortunately died from that and she was the only child that did not make it to that big reunion in 1900 and you know, they kind of phrased it as an unfortunate accident But there it turns out there were several people that had done that at that asylum and for some reason they Just couldn't get him to reinforce the bars better and on her death record It did say suicide so that that part was sad that she had such a family around her and and something like that occurred Yeah Good job We also did have and you'll have to look back through the profiles because I do not have a slide on it But if you're looking for any of the morbidly interesting stuff for kids or whoever to look at you have two different people for some reason in your Ancestor's lines that stepped in front of trains or fell in front of trains. So yeah Isn't surprising because my Direct ancestor Henry Joseph Geisler. He died by a trolley car accident. He was drunk So there were generations of alcoholism in the Geisler line And then in late breaking news this happened less than an hour of going a lot This is new to me Adam Deets's probate was found and so and it says it says in there and he was listed as Mary Mary Deets that married Cornelius Gulick Her father was thought to be William But it actually lists her in there as a child of his and if you see at the top there It's Cornelius Gulick and wife which they list down below that. It's his daughter Mary And her husband, she's the wife of Cornelius Gulick. So in other words Dad's an atom So I think he gained five or six kids the last time I looked right before I came online Seven yeah, somebody was actively working on that. So that's part of the reason those points were going up Yeah, she was still adding to that but that was pretty pretty exciting fine. I love finding probate They're just so awesome. I read one while we were doing the research for you and And I and I wish it, you know, sometimes you just wish you're like, I wish this was one of my ancestors wills They're just fun some of them are really fun and there was one in in York County and The gentleman left Very specific things to his wife. So he left one fourth of all the liquor. He had made and half of this hard cider that he had made and The fourth of the garden that specifically was the one that was well-dunged and fertilized I was cracking up when I was reading that and then he said he must have known his death was gonna be imminent Because he was like and the apple slices when they're fully dried once they're dried you get those. I was like, wow This is a specific will Wow Military profiles and there of course we found a lot more than this These were a few that we had taken the time to link and you'll see them on the space page William Townsend who was in the Civil War Now of course George fickle I talked about with his son Silas. They were both in the Civil War on the Union side And he and Tana Hill. So there's one of your Tana Hills There's a private in the second regiment of Cotskere's Ohio militia in the war of 1812 And then so that's not a direct ancestor That's like a son or a cousin uncle kind of thing I'd have to look I don't see the relationship on here. So I would have to look We had several and the Revolutionary War So William Peake and that was your fifth great-grandfather Fought in the Revolutionary War. Yay. Okay, that must have been Chris And these were direct William Hankinsons sixth great-grandfather fought in the Revolutionary War And then we're going out. Well one step Further out each time John Roy your seventh great-grandfather He was a patriot in the Revolutionary War by virtue of the service in the provincial Congress of New Jersey Now see if you were a daughter's of the American Revolution, that would be a high Possibly but something tells me that's up the The dna line. There's no actual record, but the peak one. I think that might be a paper trail So I'm gonna go look at that one for sure Do you have a lot to look at? I know I said I would love to have a dar Oh comfort tour of h2o Oh, they couldn't prove oh They try there was so much talk they went back and forth all week on that isomar and they just could not make the connections They wanted to make so I don't know if the records aren't there or you know, sometimes connections just aren't meant to be I'm not sure And I know what upper candidate is that's Ontario I know my geography Oh Do we so that that that's all we got unless there was any other last minute changes that That was all that we have found for you I mean, there's probably a lot more, you know, we're gonna they're gonna send you everything But this was the big discoveries Very very Good Well, yeah, I'm just thoroughly impressed I don't want to say that I have a favorite But I'm really excited about all the stuff in Canada because I just don't have that access to those documents right now Or I haven't delved into them enough So that is extremely exciting and then The possibility of an American American revolutionary direct investor with paper trail Wow, that would be great because I've been struggling for that Yeah, so Hankinson and Roy are DAR ancestors, but unfortunately I have no paper trail from my um Grandmother so she was adopted out and no paper ever connected her to the Hankinsons But DNA connects her to the Hankinsons. So I can't use that one unfortunately and The longs that um, Louise is from she does have a DAR ancestor up there But they won't let me do that because I know that she's been adopted in so like Then, you know, you you should find out who your local chapter Her registrar is for the DAR or one of them because they are actually starting to consider some DNA evidence Okay, and that's new that's that's within the last year. That's been recent. So Exciting I wanted to be able to have dual dual citizenship, you know, the united empire loyalist DAR So Chris has a question. What was the proof of william peaks parents on family search? They couldn't find proof You've got to ask me to go back to my tree. I don't know what's at the top of my head But you're asking these things off the top of my head. Okay peak peak peak peak peak peak Hey, I don't know my ancestors off the top of my head. So Only so back so many generations. Do I know them off the top of my head? Okay, so The answer is I'm not sure Um, primarily I've been focusing on townlies towns and guys slurred off us carls or gross mocks and zump steins So somebody put the the proof. I don't know what the proof is Oh, you don't have a date for Helen and Robert. You just have to send me an email. I have it There's a great group here and of course I have their work the other marriage date But they've started allowing proof arguments Okay, so I have to report back. What'll be exciting Well, wow, I I don't know what else to say but wow, I mean I'm not someone who doesn't talk We we've taken I don't I forgot what's the phrase we've I don't know. I was gonna say some major speechless. You there we go It's his name. It's late It's it's speechless Yeah, that's exciting I have to tell you that Devon it really was just such a pleasure for us to be able to go through your branches You know and everybody just had they really did have fun with it I mean people worked hard, but they really did have fun with it. So good I hope everybody's family's fun. I mean, you know, it's nice to know that I have something other than a a professor No fan and a drunk on my tree, but I do have this fight. So You have patriots you have a knight. I mean Some ruptured some problematic pigeons and you have a a fence dispute That is exciting because I know that the johnson's and the comforts and the zamsteins all intermix Right and so to see that that they're having a land dispute. I mean, I'm sure it happens, but I actually have all that documentation in the court records the Yeah, because A family chart just makes everybody look like they get along But then when you get all of this extra stuff, I just I mean, I still have a living Cousin in Ontario. Unfortunately her her brothers have died, but I can't wait to say hey I found some more stuff. I mean because it was her mom that Started my mom on the path of doing genealogy research and so we've always wanted to research our Canadian line Um, so anyway, it's exciting people here asking a year just to work off the register Do it just do it. Just do it. Just do it. It's exciting. Oh So we have any Go ahead I'm just gonna say if anybody has any last-minute questions or comments or debon. Do you have any last-minute questions or comments before? We My only comment is now that you've found so many ancestors people are gonna be able to see how's debon related to me And I'll be able to say oh, that's a valid line instead of after time going uh, no, I don't think so I know that's bogus after that person. So That's exciting. We'll have to have a chat where people ever tell me how we're all related Yeah, we had one member and and he had uh, he was trying to work on his hankinson lines And build him out and he knew he was in that same area and there were all those of course hankinsons and kramers and whatnot In ohio and he's like, I just don't understand. I'm not making this connection And I'm building all my branches out and somebody else said well, you know But we don't have all of debon's built out yet I mean the more you add the more you're going to find those connections with people And so I thought well, I'm just going to take a look at his branches and see what he's doing I mean great way work by the way. Donald doing great And I got in there and I'm looking at him and I went wait a minute musking gum ohio I know that that's for stylus uh fickle wound up at he wound up in musking gum so I took and I compared him to Donald's hankinson and they were 17th cousins once removed. So You know, one of the things about us all talking to each other. You're like, wait a minute. I recognize that town So we found a connection that that we didn't know was going to be there exciting exciting exciting, but I can't wait to find out where the maria comes from for filipino's Moulter that's going to be exciting to look at that And I know that they had just brought on the german lutheran records But I didn't know how to read them enough to take it back. So that's exciting to be able to see that All right, and even notes We'll send them to So now we will go to We'll introduce our next guest though. He like I said before he can't be with us because he is sleeping right now with us Nathan dylan goodwin is our Basically, we've already started working on his tree there. I know people are already going at it So we'll go ahead and introduce him and we have some he answered his interview questions So we'll give a all that goodness stuff. Oh my goodness that didn't work. Okay. So let's go back So Devin he has always had a passion for writing if you you some of you might be familiar with him He has a master's degree in creative writing And his first book was haystings at war published in 2005 And he is the off he is an he's the author of the forensic genealogist series And he's currently working on the next installment in the series. I've heard a lot of good things about his books I want to get some and read them, but I haven't actually got them yet He is a member of the society of authors the guild of one name studies the society of genealogists Sussex family history group kent family history society Norfolk family history society haystings and rother family history society a lot of societies So that is Nathan So we will go ahead and I don't know maybe if you want me to we swap I ask a question you answer or we'll just take our terms Giving what the the question and the answer is so you can go ahead and do the first one. Okay, so The first question what got what got Nathan interested in genealogy? So quoting him he says I started doing doing genealogy when I was about 12 years old I first became interested in my maternal grandmother's maiden name den gate as the family had lived locally to me in haystings For several generations and prior to that in the villages not too far away My name was one of those wonderful people who kept everything relating to the family and who wrote on the backs of photographs So I used to sit down and copy out the family tree matching names to photographs But generally not having a clue what I was doing From about 14 I started to interview elderly relatives, but unfortunately asked the wrong questions Focusing on names and dates rather than information that couldn't be gleaned from records that got me hooked and I haven't looked back Okay, and for the second question I usually ask who's your favorite ancestor and that can be hard to answer And Nathan said it was tricky to think of just a singular ancestor as his favorite He said I hope the rest won't be offended though when I choose my great great-grandmother Louisa roaks The vast majority as you will find of my family came from southern England and were white and involved in various laboring agriculture agricultural work So louisa who was of mixed race and hailed from the tiny atlantic island of san alina stands out for me She married a soldier stationed on the island in 1887 and according to her marriage certificate She was 17 years old In fact, she was actually just 15 years old Soon after the marriage her and his great great-grandfather Samuel Angus Ellingham left the island and settled in bedford sure England I've been able to trace south asian and east african dna to her Which very likely came from slavery as the east india company procured their slaves from that area Taking them to work on san alina Very cool So the next one Any interesting stories to share that you find out about your family? And he says well one of my great great great-grandfathers was called sylas thomas He was one of those white agricultural types that I just mentioned But he was a little bit naughty In 1863 he was working on a farm in his home village of mountfield east sussex One another laborer discovered a small horde of middle objects and ranks Believing them to have been made of brass He showed the middle to sylas who paid him five shillings and six pence about five pounds about 15 pounds today for it Taking into his brother-in-law steven willett who was a blacksmith at some point assuming he didn't already know sylas discovered that the items were actually made of gold and sold them to a london merchant for 529 pounds which is more than 25 000 pounds today Unfortunately For sylas the police had some other pieces from the horde and began to launch an investigation Eventually arresting sylas and steven the gold was found had been more than 2000 years old And much to my embarrassment as a historian. They had it all melted down. Sorry history Their trial was quite sensational for the time and the pair were subsequently sent to lose goal Did I say that right goal? I guess it's a I have an idea with an open-ended sentence According to a newspaper article in 1864 A piano teacher named mrs. Kirby wrote to queen victoria on the men's behalf asking for clemency if the story is to be believed then the Then the queen asked her private secretary to have them and released They were led out of prison having served 11 months and to the best of my knowledge stayed out of trouble In fact, sylas thomas went to become an outstanding member of the hastening salvation army. That was pretty cool And devin you thought you had some bad boys Back in your journey Yeah I don't think I have bad boys. I just think I have your run of the mill kind of boys who get in a little bit of trouble a little bit just a little bit Just a little My next question was when did you first discover wiki tree? And he said it was probably about two or three years ago He said I run the den gate one named study dna project at ft dna And the website has helped me with several branches of the den gate family I found photographs that don't exist anywhere else online Ooh The next question which is an important question. What are your current brick walls? And he says he has four main ones where I've actively tried to research them several times But where I've gotten where I get nowhere fast One of them is the lines that settled on st. Helena. Luisa's brooks ancestors The island has no indigenous population. It only became settled from the 1600s mainly from england Unfortunately, there aren't too many off island records. The names are roakes everton and car. Are you guys making notes? Okay, next one My second great-grandfather James Cole various census entries offer confusing birth dates and locations his name appears variously as George James Cole James George Cole or just James Cole The third one the smiths we have a lot of smith researchers. So maybe they can help My second great-grandfather was George Augustus smith from the Battersea area of Surrey now London I've chased it up a false line already as there were two people with exactly this name born close together in time and location Family legend has it that he only had one sister Lizzie who lost her leg at age five and who married Who married but her husband died young. I'm stuck And then his last one My main brick wall and the one which one which given my job writing about professional genealogists is the most embarrassing My goodwin line My fourth great-grandfather was called Thomas Goodwin. He was born around the 1780s But there are so many Thomas Goodwins in the west minister Middlesex area that I can't pin down which one he is I've tried using DNA But it's on the very edge of being possible and so far I've only been able to confirm links between me and some of his other children The parishes in this area now greater London were huge which doesn't help So those are his brick walls guys. Yeah, and I did put that out in a discord room for those of you that are watching both The final question was what do you hope to see him participating in the wiki tree challenge? And Nathan says well, obviously any of those brick walls being knocked down would be amazing Other than that any lines that can be developed would be great So he really just is excited to see what we can find and expand his tree I did go ahead and have the captain ask about the photographs And he definitely said we can use the photographs that he has on ancestry. So I think it's exciting So we will have him on next Wednesday. I believe we're doing three p.m We're doing a five p.m Five p.m eastern times a little earlier. So that'll be nine p.m. GMT A lot better for our england people Yes, so it'll be earlier in the day Uh Or later, I don't I don't know. I guess it depends where you are, but it's going to be a different time So keep an eye out for that. We will post it on wiki tree youtube facebook with the correct time and then Saturday would you have our live cast this weekend? We have k night on to talk about bio check app You know, I think it's really exciting So if you're if you're kind of daunted by some of the apps it kind of ties into wiki tree plus So please come on watch k has a presentation and she'll ask she'll answer questions. So it's gonna be really great and Besides that, thank you everyone by Wait, wait, wait. Oh, no. Yes, devon has devon also wants to share something Right. So june 5th Um, we are having a virtual conference Featuring lisa leahson to talk about newspaper research Joe morally to talk about um union and confederate civil war pension And then my miles meyer to talk about how to cross the prom from the u.s Or canada over into germany if you have those kind of researchers So if you go to family hits euthanatics.com, you'll see a big graphic at the top It you cannot attend live because you're um Taking a break because it's a wiki tree or break. That's it is um recorded for 30 days You need to participate, but the early bird discount ends this saturday And you have to register by june 4th if you want to participate. So we close the doors on june 4th at 11 o'clock p.m my time Which is new mexico time. But anyway, I hope you guys will participate It's always a really good fun event and I can't thank you guys enough for everything you did And um, it was one thing so grega asked about um, why can't I find your marriage date for your grandparents? That's because they eloped Yeah, and I forgot to put on anywhere that I have personal knowledge from my grandparents telling me You know all that other stuff. There really isn't a document They eloped to gretna green in kentucky. So yeah, that's why Eloping happens so Yeah, both of my grandparents eloped my brother eloped Actually, do you have any kind of certificate at all or just so they ran away and they just Just they ran away and then there's a big big big family story of the chaos that caused Because then her older sister eloped and then they got divorced and then she went to ontario married her sweetheart That's her sister or older sister is max's younger sister eloped and yeah Lots of family drama Yes So um, apparently alcohol getting hit by trains or falling off trains And eloping is my family tradition Sounds fun Anyway, I just thought I'd share that That's that's fun though. So Thank you everyone. Thank you devin so much for letting us work on your tree. You know, we're gonna have such a great time Thank you everyone who's watching. Thank you. Mindy We this wouldn't be possible without mindy and thank everybody who's participated And don't forget you can subscribe to youtube or like us on facebook like us on youtube So you can know when we're going live again. Check us out on weekytree.com And with that we will say goodbye until next time I hope everyone has a wonderful evening day and we loved you Goodbye everyone