 fighting for peace. As soon as I hear that I think of old-time propaganda trying to declare war while still seeming like the good guy you can say we're fighting this war because we want peace and the other guys are they're the ones that want war so we have to beat them so we can have peace and it really sounds like a joke really fighting for peace but when I think about it there is something real to this because what would it mean to have peace without fighting if we had a world that was entirely peaceful then we wouldn't need to fight but as long as there is fighting as long as there is there are threats there are people acting against us there is chaos there is life happening there can never be total peace now I know that that doesn't sound very optimistic but it seems to me like that's that's nature nature is full of individuals communities that are fighting against each other fighting between each other there's always fighting there's always chaos to some degree in the world and so to just want peace without fighting I don't even see how this could be done because if you simply choose to stop fighting then other people will take what you have they'll move in we we can imagine that simply stopping fighting will lead to peace but it seems like that's only possible if somehow all the world agrees on this without exception now it's not to say that you know we should have a state of total war at all times and the fact the value of peace is very real we we need to have peace but how do we get it seems to me like we create pockets of peace fighting around the edges keeping an orderly interior and pushing chaos out to the edges guarding the edges so that's where this idea of fighting for peace comes in if we want to have peace we need to fight to keep things out that disturb the peace so I'm thinking of this you know in our in our lives if we simply say I will be entirely peaceful I will not fight and I will just let peace rain well then we are going to be we're constantly assailed by different actors that they want us they want us to give them their money give them their attention give them our our life force really just like work for them and pay attention to them and pay them and reward them and we're just we have all these demands around us from from everywhere and if we simply refuse to fight and declare peace well you can see that our you know our minds will simply be overrun and to see that with so many people that are very well-intentioned but they don't maintain their boundaries and other people simply step in and and they farm them really they use they just use them for their own benefit so in order to have peace we need to fight for our own boundaries we need to be able to say no we need to be able to make a wall a barrier between what's inside and what's outside and we choose what we're going to let in we need to have that that gate and having that is is fighting to have a wall to have a gate to have you know people trying to get in and we're saying no that is fighting and that's what I mean by fighting for peace as paradoxical as it sounds so I'd be curious to hear what you think of this idea is there any value in it or is it still that old propaganda line being repurposed