 Kwa hOUTu tikiwa hizani hiza ku CTi oma azatilise hizi mula mata. Makatangia na hizi, hizani hizani hizani hiza ku tuziuana ikutia wajama 2kwata. Hizani hizani hizani hizani hiza mula? 4 menda hizani hizani hizani hizani hizani hizani hizani hizani hizani hizani hizani kwa hati. Westo hizani hizani hizani, kwa mokakia niha niha na wajibakia mndawe msha mkut wajibakia niha ngo niha ngo niha kwa mora niha yawe kwa kwa mendezame na matadama kwa solebata na miliza wa manrikak kwa mendezame niha wajibakia kwa mendeza mahena mendeza matadama wajibakia ­ This is fertilizer that was brought in the country during Edgar Chagualungu's reign which was supposed to have been sold to the Zambian government at $1,000. He is paying $1,400. Why? Zambians ask the question, why? You promise that you reduce the price to $250, but you are making the government pay 40% more. Why? Who is paying the post of a Zambian farmer, Babu Adia, the one who called? He promised the Zambian people, he said, I'm going to make sure there is free education from necessary to tertiary. Today how many children were given buzzeries? 20% of all the ones who qualified, $2,000 only. All right? $2,000. Why? Now he's changing and he's saying, no, I didn't say that I'm going to provide free education. I said I'm going to have access to quality education. My heavens, are you saying things as though you think that Zambians are so myopic that they have amnesia? That they forget? All these things are recorded. All these things are there. He told the Zambian people that he's going to reduce the price of you. I told you about that. Instead he has increased it. What the Zambian people must do is prepare themselves starting now. The only thing I can say, and again I don't want to annoy you, but the only thing I can say from the bottom of my heart is that President Hagainde managed to deceive the Zambian people. His victory was victory of deceit. The Minister of Finance has reacted to some of these concerns that you are raising, that some stakeholders have also been raising. He's indicated clearly that they are raising a foundation, they're building a foundation that will bring about prosperity in the country, putting up policies that might seem to be tougher now, but later on barefoot. At what point did President Hagainde or any of his people, even Musokotwani, go to the Zambian people during the campaign and say, Zambians, we're going to increase prices of fuel because the economy is bad. We'll increase the prices of fuel, we'll not give bazaaris to children because the economy is bad. We'll make sure that you tighten your belts, you have one meal per day so that we can improve the economy in five years. Where did you say that? We're talking about what they said, what convinced Zambians to vote for them. This which is coming up now is just self-defense for failure. All right? They have just come to realize that they told a pack of lies, now they must justify their lies. What would you say Honorable Minda? What would you say would be the best alternative in dealing with the issue of subsidies because we know how complex this might be? It is not even complex, my friend. This is a very simple matter. Read the PF manifesto. It answers these questions. I told you how we were going to address the issue of fuel prices. We're going to recapitalize in deni so that we can produce fuel. All right? Number two, as regards millimio, we said that we are going to open the borders to export maize and millimio and from that we'll end 10% export duty. So that if we are ending that 10% export duty, where is that money going? That is the same money that we'll be using to subsidize the farmer. So that the farmer can produce more. All right? Electricity. And by the way, Zambians, I would like to inform you, we know for a fact that this 30% increase in fuel was just a marginal increase. The increase is yet coming. As soon as we are done with the elections in Kabuata, I can assure you Hargaende is going to increase the price of fuel more. Again? Again. Electricity. You heard what they are saying. We want to come up with cost-reflective tariffs. If you read the PF manifesto, do you know what we said? We said now that we are reaching the equilibrium on energy, we are managing to produce as much energy as we require to run our industry. We are now going to invest in Batoka to increase the production so that we do what? We export excess power. If we export excess power, we earn revenue. That revenue is what is going to subsidize the local market. That's what thinkers do. Thinkers don't go and punish their own people. Look, I can give you another example. We said we are going to charge mineral royalty tax. And you know that this year alone we end $600 million from mineral royalty tax. What has Mr. Balidan? He has said we are going to make mineral royalty tax deductible. And Musokotwan in parliament, I couldn't believe minister of finance going to parliament and saying no, we have not done away with mineral royalty tax. What we have done is just to make it tax deductible. What does it mean when you make a tax deductible? What it means, my dear friend, is that if this company pays $100 million as mineral royalty tax, at the end of the year if they make a profit and on that profit income tax is $200 million, what will you do? You will not collect the $200 million. You deduct the $100 million that was paid to the government as mineral royalty tax and only collect $100 million as income tax. What does that mean? Did you collect mineral royalty tax? No. You take with one hand and give with the other and you say we are not removing mineral royalty tax. That's exactly what you have done. And in addition, this government, the first 100 days when they are supposed to be celebrating the first 100 days they reduce corporate tax from 35% to 30%. Giving money to their friends because these guys are businessmen. The majority of the people in Bali's government are businessmen. They are giving themselves tax rebate, 5%. What about for you? The worker, they only increased your tax-free threshold from 4,000 to 4,500 kwach. Isn't that commendable? Commendable? I don't think that the workers out there will be happy with you. 12% increment for silver servers, not commendable. You increase 12% on their salaries and increase on their fuel by 30%. What have you done? What have you done? When we left government, millimu was 150. Today if you go in shops, millimu is 175 kwach. What is the 12%? You say we are giving now no PTFs, no school fees. Fine, no school fees. But we are going to increase the cost of you taking your children to school because all of them have to drive to school. I heard minister Musokotwani saying no, this increase will not affect farmers. It will not affect people in villages. Are you sure? The people in villages, how do they plow? How do farmers plow if it's not with fuel? Are you sure that those villagers walk to hospitals? Their children learn in their village, in their house? No. What's your take on the CDF allocation from 1.6 to 25.7? For me that is just a smoke screen. It's actually abuse of members of parliament. Serious abuse. And again it is because these people do not even understand the genesis of CDF. CDF came about as a way of a private members' motion. Two members of parliament raised the issue of CDF and they were complaining that look President Chiluba, you have this slush fund which you are using to give to churches and so on. But for us when we go to constituencies people are also asking us and we don't have. All right? That's how the CDF came about. Now you go and make a member of parliament also become the executive to start implementing projects. You heard what Musokotone was saying when they were winding up debate. Now you are going to the constituencies. You shall be followed with 25.7 million. So members of parliament you now have to go and construct schools, you have to go and construct clinics, you have to go and give buzzerings to pupils and you have to replace the PTA funds and good heavens. If a member of parliament is going to become part of the executive is going to execute projects who is going to perform the oversight role. Who? Tell me this member of parliament, Clement Tembo, incoming member of parliament for my constituency. When I see him on the street, what will I say to him? Clement Tembo, can you please make sure that that clinic is done? All right? And then he goes to that clinic and does a bad job of it. Then he goes to parliament and his ministry of health to be debated. Are you sure Clement Tembo will stand up and say, I am a member of parliament elected by the people of Kawata and you minister of health, can you explain? Will he do that? He will become promised because he was part and parcel of the decision to provide that clinic. There are committees that are there, CDF committees. Last week I was having a conversation with the minister of water development, Hon. Mike Imposhia, who also indicated that these, they are committees at constituency level that have been constituted in various constituencies that are dispiating these things. Of course I remember parliament is part of that committee. I was minister of justice when we came up with the constituency development fund act. So I understand it very well. All right? I understand it very well. And at the time that we were coming up with that act, it was because the money that we're talking about was only 1.6 million, which was meant to be used as a compliment. It was only a compliment for small projects, not for members of parliament to go and start constructing schools for goodness sake. No. So you should have been maintained at the same? As a matter of fact, the members of parliament are now going to be even more impoverished because even they are 1.6 million that they were getting. Oh sorry, I shouldn't say ka. Chi. I'm joking with you. Even that 1.6 million which they were getting. Now will not be there at all. So the members of parliament really are now just going to be abused as far as I'm concerned. And I supported members of parliament in the patriotic front who said please we don't have capacity as members of parliament. What this government is doing is just to hoodwink people. All right? They are hoodwinking people. I can assure you that this coming year they may be able to give the 25.7 million. Do you know why? Because from August up to date, they've stopped paying suppliers. This is the reason why you don't see people anymore spending money. Suppliers, contractors and so on have not been paid because President Bali has said accumulate money, keep it. So that I can make an impression in January I give CDF. It will happen in 2022. I can assure it will not happen in 2023 because then they will have understood how government treasury operates. You don't bank government money and keep it in a chibagi and will spend it in January. No, government money goes in and goes out immediately. All right? Except for your foreign reserves. ZDRA is collecting money to pay salaries, to pay all contractors, but they are holding onto it to try and impress in January. And by the way, I was very surprised talking about these ideas of being deceitful. You tell the Zambian people, sorry, the reason why we're only giving bazaaris to 20% is because we're using Ed Galungu's budget. Whenever things go wrong is Ed Galungu. Even the things that Ed Galungu did, if it's good, it's yours. How come you're being so hypocritical? Opening our airports. Yes, beautiful airport without saying credit to the PF. Ha? They shall get tired because the list of projects that we left for them to commission is a lot. And each time the commission will be clapping, well done PF. These guys, the only job they have is just to go and commission, not to bring in anything new. How can a person say the money we're going to spend on loans to students is the 2021 budget? Are you sure that now as we're coming to December, there is money which is in the budget for 2021, which will be transferred into 2022? There's nothing like that. It is their budget which will finance those scholarships. It's them who planned wrong. And they want to try and weaken zambians. And they think that zambians are so gullible. My friend, I talk to you about all these strange economic policies they are coming about. President Hagaende, and I'm afraid I have to talk about him because he was the chief campaigner for himself. He was working around with a spreadsheet showing you on television spreadsheet. I have the formula. I have the formula. Zambians believed, hey, this man, when he comes kuzankala formula to change the whole thing, he comes into state house. The formula is gone. The formula is lost. Instead, he's overtaxing zambians. Look, besides the fuel price, you know that they have increased road tax? Yes? And that will not affect youths as far as Musokotoni is concerned. It won't affect villagers as far as Musokotoni is concerned. They have increased road tax. They have also increased presumptive tax on taxis by 11 percent. And as far as President Bali is concerned, he is bringing down the cost of living. To my surprise, big surprise in a country where only 2 percent of the zambians are insured and all the property you see in Zambia only about 2 or 3 percent is insured. Motor vehicles, if you go out, go to Ratsa and ask, most of the motor vehicles in Zambia are insured third party because of the law. People don't insure in Zambia. They don't. And we in the patriotic front were saying we must make sure that zambians insure. That's how we came up with a crop insurance of 1 percent to make sure that we protect people. This government has decided to increase levy on insurance premiums. We left it at 3 percent. They have increased it to 16 percent. So my friend, if you are insuring your car and your premium on your third party was the only 500 kwacha. Now my friend, it is going to be 500 plus 16 percent close to 660 kwacha. That's what is going to be the cost of insurance. Are you sure people insure? Now people will start buying premium on a daily basis. And when there are accidents, what will happen? Is this a government that is living up to its word? No. Let's close there a lot of issues that we can talk about. Let's close before I bring in because I want also Mr. Clement. Mr. Clement Tembo in a minute or so to just speak to our viewers tonight. But before it comes through, very interesting matter of street vending. This has been a very interesting subject for my president at the late Michael Sata attempted at some point to get rid of street vending which never worked. The new donors made some directives to get rid of street vending. This hasn't been received well by members of the public. I think this was expected I think the question that is needed to be answered here is what is the best strategy in dealing with the issue of street vending? Zambians are starting to realize that it was a big mistake to vote out the PF. And a lot of people are saying we did not vote for UPND we voted against PF. And it so happened that the only party that benefited from our voting against PF was UPND. Because a lot of people have come to realize that the PF doesn't even have an idea on how to govern. They don't. And over this matter of street vendors it is as though our friends live in Utopia. They live in outer space they don't live in Zambia. For those of us who live in Zambia we know the hardships that those people on the streets are facing. Those people are on those streets not because they desire to be there. That's not the issue. There are other fundamental factors which this government is not capable of understanding. We tried and you're right President Maiko Sata tried. You remember he was saying I'm in the case I'm kuchapa. He didn't hide. Even in the campaign he said I'll come and clean Zambia. I'll come and sweep the streets. He told street vendors but once we were in government he came to realize that wait a minute these people I want to kick out of the streets have families to take care of. All right. Something he didn't realize before. He didn't realize that before and this is the beauty with a person like President Maiko Chufiasat. All right. Once he was in government he understood and he quickly changed his position. He did not tell the people I'll keep you here during the campaign to win his vote. No. That's what the kind of man he is. He's not deceitful. Deceitful people are the ones who tell people yes in the road shows you will stay here and then when they form government they say get out. Those are deceitful people. A person who tells you Chiluba remember? Chiluba when he was going around campaigning you're saying Zambians are you ready to sacrifice? And all of us were saying yes. Remember? What about Bali? Bali was not telling people I'm coming to sacrifice. Bali was telling people when I come I am the panacea of all your problems. I shall solve all your problems and people fail for that deceit. But now his true colors are showing. He lives in Utopia. He thinks that those people along the streets are making Lusaka dirty and they must be kicked out. They must be taken. I don't know where. The solution is to leave them there. No. The solution is what the PR had already started. You saw that huge millennium market. Right? The Simon Moewa? Yes. The Simon Moewa lane. Why were we building that? We were building that because we wanted our brothers and sisters to have a place where they can go and trade decently. You don't just wake up and say come on soldiers remove these people. Where are they going? Where are you taking them to? So it's to create alternatives. You create alternatives and the PF government which is a proper government already started doing that. And I can assure you in five years 2026 when government comes back PF comes back into power. You are going back into power. I have no doubt in my mind. I have no doubt whatsoever. You think you are popular enough to come back. Watch the space. Just watch the space. Look at how formidable the patriotic front is. Remember what I said? People did not vote for UPND. People voted against the PF because of the various reasons I gave you at the beginning of this program. And we are determined to learn from our past. We are determined to become even better as a political party and as individuals in the political party. And because of our lessons when we do come back in 2026 by the will of the people of Zambia we will form an even stronger and better government who will do things even better than we did in the last 10 years when we were in government. Honorable Winda, thank you so much for coming through on the last edition of the platform for the year 2020. You've been my last guest for this year on this platform. Thank you very much indeed and thank you for inviting me. I hope that the people out there have learned a thing or two from our interaction and I have to say if the word kaa is not very nice on this television I will learn. I will not use it ever again with anybody. I will find a better way of expressing things like that. But on a serious note thank you very much for hosting me on your last platform for the year. I look forward to your invitation in the new year and as we part company I would like to seize this opportunity to wish you and millennium television millennium radio and to wish all your viewers and your listeners a very prosperous 2022. I hope that all of us who by the grace of God be allowed to enter 2022 happily. There are going to be challenges but the challenges as a result of how we voted unfortunately and we hope that things can only get get better and not worse. I also would like to wish President Bali President Againde and his team prosperous 2022. We in the patriotic front are going to be a very responsible opposition who will not oppose just because want to oppose. Our members of parliament will not walk out of parliament just because they think they can walk out of parliament We are going to give very effective checks and balances for the president of the Republic of Zambia so that he can deliver on his promises. We are also going to get all the articles that he was using to campaign so that we can remind him in case he has forgotten so that he can deliver on his promise for the betterment of the Zambian people. Thank you very much for having me and thank you for allowing Clement Tembo to also come and greet the people of Kabwata constituency.