 Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Burns, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly online event. It is a webinar where we cover a variety of topics of interest to the library world. The show is free and open to anyone to watch, both our live show, which we're doing right now, and our recordings, which are available on our website. If you're not able to join us on Wednesday mornings, you can always go to our website and see all of our archives there and watch everything from there. We do the show live on Wednesday mornings at 10 a.m. Central Time, and they last generally an hour, sometimes long, sometimes short, whatever it takes. We're very flexible here, and it's a mixture of things. Presentations, interviews, book reviews, mini-training sessions. As I said, anything library related, we want to have it on the show and share it. And this week's topic, well, this week is our monthly tech talk with Michael Sowers. Michael is our technology innovation librarian here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Good morning. And once a month he comes on and does something a little more techy-focused, generally speaking, and gives us some tech news of the month, whatever's come up that's interesting since the last time we were here. And generally, pretty much every time he brings on speakers, interviews, talks, whatever. And he's got a group on the line with us today, and I'm just going to hand over to you, Michael, to tell us who you've got with us and what we're going to hear today. All right. Thanks, Krista. As she said, my name is Michael Sowers. I'm the technology innovation librarian here at the commission. And the story behind our guest this month is a few months ago. I think I saw a tweet or something that just kind of went past my radar that had this word, mozillarian, kind of a combination of librarian and the folks at Mozilla that make a browser you may be aware of. And so that was from a woman by the name of Christine. And so I texted her and I said, you know, hey, this sounds really interesting. Would you like to come on the show and talk about it? She said, sure. And can I bring along some folks? So today, I love this. We have a truly international panel going on today. Our first speaker will be Christine Prefontain. She's in Canada. She is the strategist, activist, innovator, and designer. And she's the founder of Facilitating Change, a boutique consultancy focusing on international nonprofit and community development. Our second guest will be Chris Lawrence of the Mozilla Foundation here in the United States. And I must say the man with the most epic headshot photo I have ever seen in my life. He is a senior director of Mozilla's WebMaker community team. And then our third speaker will be O.K. Negrin. I think I got that right. From the Stockholm Public Library in Sweden. And he has been active in various library projects with a focus on lifelong learning, learning environments, digital inclusion, and social media. So that's our panel. I'll let them each talk a little bit about themselves and what they do and what this project is. And Christine, go ahead and welcome to the show and take it away. Great. Thank you. And thanks for inviting us on. And thanks to everyone for taking the time to join us. So again, my name is Christine Prefontain. And just to confuse you, I'm actually a Quebecer from Quebec. And I'm currently living in Washington, DC. So I'm going to mix up the international bit a little bit more. So I want to show you that just like it says in this picture, which is from the Chattanooga Public Library, that you are indeed in the right place. So you're online now with others who I'm pretty sure want to connect and help each other learn and dream and create and achieve. And I'm guessing that most of you understand that both libraries and the internet are about human potential and essential infrastructure. And that both of those are very, very much in need of our attention and our action. So this lovely diagram here is from my friend Mark Sermon, who heads up the Mozilla Foundation. And it really sort of covers some of the key points that I think cover that intersection between Mozilla and libraries. So I'm just going to run through a few other introductory images and slides just to kind of set the tone before I pass things on to Chris. So this just also gets at this is the Princeton Public Library after Sandy hit. And when I say that libraries and the internet are critical infrastructure, this is a really good example of what I mean. These people are accessing power, connecting to government services, connecting to each other. And this would not happen without open libraries, free and open libraries and free and open internet. So through an initiative called Beyond Access, which I've had the pleasure to work on, I've met library innovators from 20 plus countries. And by getting involved with Mozilla, I've met super insanely creative activists and educators and discovered practical tools and fun ideas for how to learn and how to teach others to make in both the physical and the digital world. This image here is from the Fayetteville Free Library in New York. And kids are learning to make and they're learning about electronics in the Fayetteville Free Library Fab Lab that was initially set up by Lauren Britton, who actually I think has been on this show. And this image here is one that I always keep coming back to because it's from the Skokie Public Library. And it's a session where people are learning how to use mobile phones. So these are just like some of the really broad range of things that libraries do in tech. So basically both libraries on Mozilla help us to realize our potential and gain 21st century skills, which allows us to engage fully in our communities and to be empowered as citizens. I just have a few more images. So this is actually from a project that Chris can talk to you more about, which is from Hive, New York. And it's a maker party using Mozilla's Popcorn Maker, which allows you to play around with video and create with video. And it's at the Brooklyn Public Library. So again, Mozilla Warrant Celebrates this intersection. Today we're here to learn more about Mozilla and to highlight some examples of librarians who are using Mozilla tools and ideas and their work. And so I just want to just show you some quick examples of this is more Hive, New York, Brooklyn. And here is one of these. She might not call herself a Mozillaerine yet, but I'm going to call her one. This is from Melissa Techman, who is actually a K through grade. She's a school librarian now, but she was a public librarian. And she's using WebMaker to do some programming with her kids that combine books and learning about tech. And likewise, this was back to Chattanooga. This is Justin Henke at the Chattanooga Public Library, and he has created an entire kit using WebMaker. And that will lead students or participants through a whole series of super fun activities that will help them to create and learn with the Web. So basically now I'd like to turn the webinar over to Chris, who has already been introduced to you. And then after that we'll hear from Ok, who is really the driving force behind Mozillaerine. Thanks. Hello, everybody. Let me just bear with me while I share my screen here. Do you all see a blue screen that says Mozilla WebMaker? Can someone confirm? I don't yet. How about now? Yep, go ahead. Are you able to see my screen? Sorry, thank you. I had myself muted. I understand. Hello, my name is Chris Lawrence, and thanks very much for the introductions. I work for the Mozillaerine Foundation, and I really am working on two projects that are about outreach and networking and community building around the intersection of learning the Web and digital skills. And that is the WebMaker community, which I'm going to talk about the WebMaker tools and community here for you, and then also the Hive Learning Network, which is similar. And they really do sort of draft off each other to a good amount, but they do have some distinct differences, and we run both those projects. I want to quickly follow up and do a little bit of a deep dive, not too deep, on what we're referencing when we talk about Mozilla's WebMaker tools and the tools and community around what it's like to really dive in and look at learning in all kinds of spaces. So museums, afterschool programs, youth development and youth media clubs, and of course libraries. And so our work with the Hive Learning Network really takes those kind of spaces and brings network thinking to their practice, and WebMaker is also working with those same audiences, often in tandem. But we really view libraries as maybe one of the key spaces and professionals and people in community that we want to work with. So it's really exciting to be able to talk further about that here. So I'm actually going to use the WebMaker tool, Thimble, that I created this presentation with. So it looks like Prezi, I'll give you, you know, everyone knows Prezi, and it sort of looks like that, but it's actually using the WebMaker tool, Thimble, which puts a lot more power into the hands of the user as they up-level their Web literacy. And I'm going to unpack that here for you now. So most of you probably know Mozilla, if we were on the same room, I'd raise your hand to say, you know, who knows Firefox? But Mozilla is really a lot more than just Firefox, including a whole nonprofit wing that really is looking at how the open Web and around the Web is a platform for learning, for activism, for data collection, for journalism, looks like in our modern world. So WebMaker really is the brand, the tools, the community, and the ideas behind what links what Mozilla is doing with teaching and learning. With this idea that the Web is a malleable, it's a creative platform, it's something that we can all control, we can make with. It is like paint or thread or electronic hardware. It is a creative space. And so when we talk about making the Web or teaching the Web or Web literacy, we aren't just talking about the sort of made-to-code movement. We support that movement, we think it's important. There's people like Code.org and others who are doing really amazing work in advocating for code literacy and building programs that support that, and we certainly support that as well. But we also think that Web literacy and about the WebMaker work has to be much broader. It is really about how people understand, how they read, how they write, how they interact, how they become citizens of the Web. And so when we really think about our work here, we really like it in this way. So culture and mechanics and then thus the citizenship of the Web is really what we're trying to get after with learning and Web and the Web. So one of our pithy sayings there. And so there is code in there. And then one of the things that we think is important with WebMaker is it does start to peel back the layers of mystery about the Web. So that it really can become an amateur creative space for people. You can exhibit your creativity on the Web just knowing a little bit of HTML and a little bit of CSS. And we hope that the WebMaker tools not only allow you to start making the Web but also start to understand some of the Web's components. So we have three key tools. Mozilla's Thimble, which is actually what I've used to build this presentation. Our X-ray goggles and what's something we call Popcorn Maker. And they're all free and open. They're all available to use anywhere, anytime, by anybody. The only thing you have to do is create a quick account on WebMaker and you can publish, you can create, you can remix and you can share other people's work. And quickly, Thimble is a code-based editor. In fact, I will show you. Now you can see, you can actually get into the guts of my presentation. So if you notice on the left-hand side is both instructions and the code, the HTML and CSS and a little bit of JavaScript that actually go and make my presentation. And I'm not going to do it now because I don't want to mess up my presentation in flight, so to speak. But anything that I make a change on the left-hand side will automatically happen in a visual form on the right, so you can actually be designing and coding side by side. So that's Thimble. We also have something we call X-ray goggles, which actually I will activate. You notice at the top where my cursor is, there's a little browser applet that allows me, when I click that, it actually turns my cursor into a Web X-ray goggles. It allows you when you mouse over something to actually see what the code is behind it and actually start to see what are the different elements. And you can actually, you can hit certain buttons, I did the wrong thing, where you can actually go in and change those aspects. So I won't go into too much detail here. Let me catch back up. So that allows you to kind of quickly look under the hood and actually change and publish. They sort of make mock-ups. It's great for people to sort of see what is underneath the Web page and then have some fun to be creative. We believe that no learning happens unless you're being in your interests, your passions and doing and mixing in that learning with that creative drive. The third tool is Popcorn Maker, and this is an open video editing platform that allows you to actually bring the Web into video. So you can actually make video that when it's watched, it's actually doing live call-outs to different Web assets. So it's using APIs, it's using unique data that's being pulled in. It essentially makes any video that's made with Popcorn Maker never the same twice because it's always finding that dynamic call-out data from the Web that's then embedded into the video. And so back to the culture piece, and that was a little look at the mechanics. The culture piece is really about what kind of freedom do we want in a Web-driven world. And we really are about how do you move people from production, from consumption. There's a real danger of the Web seeming like it's a black box, seeming like it's locked down. Popcorn Maker actually are political forces or policy forces or private company forces. That would actually like us to think about the Web in that construct. So it's important to not only know that it is actually a changeable platform and remixable and customizable, but also to understand why it's essential to keep that and to push back on that. So the Douglas Rushcroft sort of saying the program or be programmed is really part of what we connected with here. I kind of skipped ahead there. I'm going to actually jump over really quick to show you a new highlight that we've got in our Webmaker, and that's webmaker.org if you're following along at home. But we just launched this two weeks ago. So we haven't done a lot of outreach to this. So you're one of the first communities that I've had the chance to actually walk through. And it really is about our work in Web literacy. And so over the last year and a half with a broad global community, we put together what it would be, what would be the competencies and skills to be Web literate in the world. Understanding that those kind of frameworks and literacy agenda that is really going to make our work in learning resonate and give it grounding. So we call this the Web Literacy Map. You can see here on the screen it's sort of broken up into three categories exploring, building, and connecting. And then there are different competencies for each of those sections and then within that individual skills that would help learners understand those different competencies. And we just launched this new feature which is we really wanted to align our content and the products that people are making with Webmaker Tools or other tools out on the Web and make the Web Literacy Map really a way to examine these ideas through content and experiences and learning by making. So I'll pick quickly, I'll just say composing for the Web. So if you click on that, you actually come into this page which gives you the individual skills, a quick sort of bite-size understanding of what that competency means, what that means to be Web literate in this strand. And then it takes users and learners and hopefully teachers, educators writ large, through a process of discovery and exploration on that competence. So discover, make, so how do you kind of learn about or explore the concepts? How do you actually use that in different production-based methods to deepen your understanding? We really believe that when people learn and knowledge is transferred, that it's done through a production process. As well as then teach, and I'll talk about these teaching kits in just a second, but then there is curriculum packages that are both written by us, by others, by community that highlight and empower people who want to do education to work with communities. And that's everything is light touch is a couple of people sitting around the table and discussing these things and playing and practicing together to formal education in all of the spaces in between. So that is, I'm going to back up so we can kind of see again at the big picture level. And if you notice if you go up these Web literacies, you can kind of get a quick navigation from there. But we understand, especially when it comes to places like libraries and librarians and the people that are using libraries to have this literacy framework around why it's important to understand the culture, citizenship, and mechanics of the Web. It would be really, I love your feedback on this, strong context and frame for how people can start to up level their skills, understand why these skills are important and have a schema for understanding that more broadly. I'm going to actually skip ahead because I want to definitely have questions and leave time for discussion. One of the ways that we're really starting to organize what I've talked about here is something I think is super exciting and I'd love to see who in this virtual room would like to be a part of this. And it really is a call out for community participation. And that's something called our maker party. I'm going to go ahead and play this video really quick off my browser. If that's a bad idea, someone just sort of break in and stop me. And I'll talk for an additional 10 seconds. Chris, we can give it a shot. If you're on a headset, I know it will not work. Otherwise, if you're on open speakers and a microphone, just turn your speakers all the way up and it should come through. Okay, I'm going to try that and I'm not on a headset. Yeah, we're not getting sound. Okay, so there's a prompt to go ahead and watch that. And I'll give you the quick 20 second overview. It was basically a maker party that we did with the Brooklyn Public Library last summer, during last summer's campaign, which wanted to take as an intersection of the web, production-based culture, participatory culture, education, public spaces, and do a maker party that made sense in the library. And so we actually called it story makers. And so all of the different activities from a bunch of different organizations had this kind of storytelling theme through even something like electronics or animation or story boarding or web maker tools or even different kinds of physical making. And that really is the sort of assault of maker party. Maker party is our annual campaign that maps to summer, although it's global, so it's not summer everywhere. But it's two months, this year, July 15th to September 15th. And it really is a way to get people to throw these maker parties that bring in others, bring in community, can be small, can be large scale. Awesome when they're in libraries. Libraries is a perfect space for this. To come in, to flip open the computer or to break out the makey-makeys or the electronics and start to see what it's like to create and produce together underneath this sort of global campaign of maker party. And last year we had, I think we had 1,700 global events, many of them, many of them, in libraries and associated with librarians. And I'm not even remembering off the top of my head how many. Let's see if I go to history here. No, they don't have the math anymore. Where they were, but they were all over the world. And I would love to say to this group, we'd love to see action coming out of this meeting, and I'm happy to work with all the folks that would like to, what it would be like to throw one of these maker parties in your library space. It could be very informal, setting up in a room or a hallway or a meeting space or out in a general or a funda. And what it would be like to have people experiment with the web maker tools. And other organizations bring in their learning programs and come together, intergenerational, very informal, and experiment with this kind of production-based digital culture. And with that, I don't want to hog much of the time. So I'm going to cede the mic there. Although happy to take questions now, later, or pass it off. Okay, yeah, Chris, we got a couple of questions I think apply directly to you. The first one I'll throw in, can we easily assume that the tools you've been showing us will work in multiple browsers, cross-platform, or should we really be using Firefox? That's a great question. So you do not, here I'll start it with a definitive. You do not have to use Firefox for these tools to work. They work in all browsers, and they use open standards like all Mozilla tools, so they should be cross-platform. You really just need a browser and an internet connection for these tools to work. The one, I have heard some feedback and seen some bugs filed, technical bugs on the tools, around some occurrences of strange behavior in Internet Explorer. But I've also seen it work on Internet Explorer many, many times. But Chrome, Opera, Safari, it works in all browsers. Okay, fair enough. And then we got a question from Linda in one of the attendees, and I'm going to kind of manipulate her question just a little bit. You mentioned that the kind of this, not the standards, but the... The map, the web browser. Yeah, the things you should probably know, map. You worked with libraries on that. She was specifically asking like, there's ACRL standards. I know there's some other standards around in the library world. Can you speak to having referenced any of those? Or what sort of library involvement was there in creating those? It was individual librarians who were part of the... Broad, it was teachers, it was technologists, it was educators, it was librarians that came together and wanted to build these competencies. And we definitely looked at other standards that existed, and we wanted to make these... Well, we didn't want these to be standards in a way, especially in North America as we understand those standards to mean as mapped you should know by X or you should demonstrate Y by Z. For a couple of reasons. We wanted these to be global in scope, and so that system of alignment break very quickly when you deal with different government agencies and standard bodies and so on and so forth. And we also wanted to stay away from these. We wanted these to be a little bit more organic and living, and people can contribute to this conversation. And so we really kept it more in the literacy framework than the standards, and so it's definitely informed by those, but we did want to... In fact, I pushed hard. They were going to call it a standard for a while. More based on technology's understanding of open standards for platform use, sort of referencing the last question. And then I really said this is going to cause confusion when it starts to interact with more formal education because of the way standards are used. And so we really wanted this to be more of a list and a description and a series of skills and competencies that would mean you are Web literate. So we wanted their intentionally agnostic to connecting to more formal standards. And it's not a closed book. We locked this down until the fall just so that we could build these kind of platforms and tools on top of them, but we will be opening up this conversation about what it means to expand these, to rethink these, to nest them in these sort of broader literacy movements or make better linkages to existing standards when that's relevant. So there will be kind of a phase two of that community involvement on how these Web literacies grow and expand. And so look forward to doing more of that alignment in that next phase. All right, yeah, sounds great. It's like, yeah, I like as you phrased this, they're informed by... And yeah, sometimes just the definition of terms being used needs to be clarified because coming from two different backgrounds you might think of it one way versus another way. So, okay, it seems that those are the questions we have immediately for Chris. So what we'll do at this point is Chris, I'm going to meet you. And okay, are you with us? Okay, are you there? Oh, sorry. Yeah, there you go. Okay, I'm switching over to you. Thank you. Thanks. All right, we can see it. Great. Okay, like as Christine said, in the introduction I'm Paul Canugran. I work as a prototype for the Digital Library Department at the Stockholm Public Library System. And I'm very thankful to be having this invitation to be on the show. Thank you very much. What I want to do now is just showcase the blog called Mozallarian, mozallarian.org. And also give it a short sneak preview of what I call a mozallarian world map that I started building upon just the other day. But first some words about the blog. Okay, just get rid of that thing there. Right. So last autumn at the Mozilla Festival in London, I was there meeting Christine Pief from Tain and some other people. And we came up with this idea of doing something more structured towards bridge-building between Mozilla community and the library world. And this word mozallarian came out in my mind and I thought it would be a cool idea to set up a blog. First of all as a way of learning myself and learning together with other people about what can be discovered in this intersection between these two worlds. There are already quite a lot of librarians active in Mozilla community but they are not always very visible in the library community at least not in Europe and in Sweden. And the other way around is there are lots of librarians who are not aware of all the possibilities that Mozilla can give in terms of learning and teaching and all that. So anyway I put up the blog and never since now for about six months I've been blogging on this platform and I've invited some people to be co-bloggers and I would be really happy to have more people coming on board because the idea of this blog should be a collaborative, independent and experimental blog. So what is the idea behind and what is Mozilla and all about? Let's go to a sub page that I just about 20 minutes before this show finished the final version of this one. So it's the first time I present the Mozillaian platform this way which is exciting. Let's see what you think of it. So what's Mozillaian all about? It's about exploring the intersection between Mozilla and the library world as I have taught, discover and share ideas and resources where these two worlds can be mixed together. And it's a big part of discussions about the shared values between libraries and the Mozilla community. At the Mozilla festival there was a guy from Brazil sharing a remix about the open web and the reason why he believes in the open web and his answer was it's the biggest public library you could ever build. And I thought that message and this screenshot works very well as a way of expressing what Mozillaian ethos could be all about. Mozillaian is also about boosting the concept of the internet as a world library, a public repository that libraries need to embrace, protect and develop. So it's not just something for us to consume and watch but also be an active part of and co-create and make things together with others to take this responsibility together with others for the internet and have the mindset and look at it as what is the biggest public repository and we should join forces with Mozilla, I think, to protect it and develop it freely and make it possible for us to maintain the internet in the future as an open platform. It's also about the Mozillaian thing, it's about supporting and developing the Mozillaian community and what is the Mozillaian community? Well, the way I see it can be Mozilla-loving librarians, it could be library-loving Mozillaians and anyone who really is doing good things for the library and for libraries and the internet as a world library, as I said. I have to ask you to actually come up, can you hear me all right? Yep, you're coming through loud and clear. Ah, good, I just can't hear anything so I wasn't sure if I was even online. Yep, you're good. Okay, I continue. So the next thing I wanted to highlight is boosting a new librarianship for the 21st century. David Lunges is a very good thinker, a librarian who's done a tremendous work to build a new sort of definition of what the librarian of the future can be and he says that the mission of librarians is to improve society through facilitating knowledge creation in their communities and that fits extremely well into this, I think. I mean, the librarian or the library co-worker as a facilitator, curator, community manager and a civil rights activist. I think the Mozillaian identity can be seen as the bridge-building between librarianship, traditional librarianship and geek-ship, so to speak, to bring these two worlds together. Mozillaian is also about attitude and passion. It's not really a title. I mean, it's partly a serious word for me. It's also about fermenting new literacies for the 21st century. Media and information literacy that has been adopted and fermented by UNESCO and eFLA and so on. And also, what Mozilla adds here is the concept of web literacy, which I find really interesting. We have a chance to introduce the web literacy map, for example, into the library world for those who are not familiar with it and use it as a tool to structure our own work for digital inclusion in the libraries. It's also about advancing the concept of connected learning in the library community and connected learning is something that Chris definitely is an expert to, he's the one to explain what connected learning is. But the way, so far, the way I see it is that we, from the library perspective, what we need to do is reach out more to the community, join forces together with other partners in society in the community and find ways of doing a better work together with, for example, museums and youth centers, et cetera, afterschool centers and so on. Discovering Mozilla tools, learning how to use them, teaching how to use them is also, of course, very central here. Creating, remixing, translating teaching kits for the library community. So I feel that what is exciting and what, so the main driving force for me is that I have a chance here, I have a possibility here to actually learn by making something myself on a daily basis. So the way of learning is to actually reach out to the community and learn from others, create things, make things and teach and be a co-teacher together with others. I think that's fascinating. So I just quickly show this thread on the WebMaker training page that was set up recently. And there's a discussion about the possibility to actually make a similar WebMaker training MOOC but for librarians to adopt this, adapt this to a library context and reach out better and more effectively to librarians. Hang on. Yeah, and another example of... Okay, that was a bad link. I'll just briefly give an introduction to a make that I made recently called Visa at the Library because there was this campaign Visa at the Internet. And I'll just see if I can discover it. So what can I do to boost online privacy in my library community? Because it's a step-by-step teaching kit aimed at librarians. In order to make use of some new, very good apps that the VisaNet campaign has introduced, these apps can protect our online presence, both on an individual level but also an institutional level. So I thought it was a good idea to do something to make it easier for us as library co-workers and to learn how to protect ourselves from massive ins and from bad supervision and also to teach others about how to protect ourselves. So to sum up, who is a Modularian? In my point of view, well, Modularian explores the intersection between the Mozilla community and the library world. The Modularian is a librarian by heart but not necessarily by training. Modularian is a Mozillaian by heart but not necessarily by training. A web maker, he or she creates knowledge and networks for communities. He or she sees at this moment in every context as a potential opportunity for co-creation, building and learning. Modularian remixes things and believes that showings the gateway to knowledge. So as I said in the beginning, this is just the most recent version of what Modularian is all about in my point of view. And of course it's a work in progress and will be changed step by step but I think I covered the most important parts of what lies behind it all. Let's have a quick look, a sneak preview on the Modularian world map. The idea is to map people who are or we could call Modularian people. They can be librarians or they can be Mozillaians. They can be anyone who really shares these values. And so far, it's not open for the public but it will be soon. As soon as people mentioned on the map agree upon being there and that's so they can make their own presentations. It's also a way of mapping what libraries out there that are actually doing good stuff in the intersection between Mozilla and the library community. It's also a list of examples of maker parties and events related to Mozilla that have been arranged in libraries or in a library context or will be. You can also on this map, you can also find the different Hive networks that Chris is the expert on this but the idea of the map is to people get the first clips into these networks and find their ways further. So let's say someone is interested in Hive New York or she can just click and discover more. If someone is interested in what the Chattanooga Maker Part is all about then she can find more information there. There's also a list of cities that belong to the initiative called Cities for Learning and I think Chris can explain everything about that. I think my time is running up. I'm not sure what you think, Michael. Wonderful, thank you. Krista, you wanted to mention the links going on before we get to questions? Just so everyone knows, as usual during Encompass Live we grab any URLs, links, web pages that are mentioned and before the show I actually grabbed all the ones that were in the description of the event of this. So for a web maker and Mozilla and what not. So they'll all be in our delicious account so after the show when you get to the link for the recording we have a link to everything that's been mentioned. We also got someone who shared from that Crescent Library that Christine's presentation had the screen shut up. Someone said it's the link to the actual pages that they put together on using Fimble so we'll have links to those as well. So try and grab everything so that you can get to it. All right, okay at this point we'll stay with your screen sharing so anything you do we'll see. We're going to open it up to questions and I've unmuted the microphones for all of our speakers for everybody or for someone in particular. I believe we have at least one question from the audience so we'd like to prefer those. If anyone does have any other questions type them into your questions section of your GoToWebinar interface or say I have a microphone I want to be unmuted and you can ask questions that way. And if any of our speakers is part of answering your question what control of the screen back just let us know and we'll switch that for you. Someone wants to know if there's the capability to create a private maker party specifically concentrated within a school library without the information broadcast out to the general public. This is something that's kind of common with schools that they would keep stuff internal and not for anyone to come in where all the elementary students are. So private maker party? For sure. That's totally acceptable. I know if you go to our I'm not going to bother getting the screen back. The answer is a resounding explanation point yes. The one caveat would be we do have an events platform which is where people use to organize their events and list them and put them on the map. You can say that I would still hope that people would list their events so that they can be part of that aggregate counting and celebration that these events took place and so that we can have these individual events be connected and linked to kind of a global campaign. Although you can say this is an enclosed event within that listing. So we'd still love it if there's a closed event in a school or a library or if there's a set amount of seats available and they're already filled, what have you. That people could still go ahead and go to webmaker.org and click on events and still register their events there so that we just get a sense of what's going on. And then short of that, if that feels uncomfortable be happy to get details about your event or even report back to my email address claurance at mozillafoundation.org just so we could know, right? So it's about linking and connecting this movement as much as it is about the individual event. So that's my only slight caveat, but yes of course those are all relevant spaces and we would encourage that to happen. It's good to have at least the info out there that the event existed and happened so that if other school libraries may be thinking about doing something similar, they could at least contact this place and say, so you did one and you're a similar type of library as us and you needed to close, tell me how you pulled it off. Exactly. Chris, I think in the chat that only presenters see through the way the software works, you mentioned a webmaster training MOOC, would you want to comment on that a little more? Yes, I just wanted to build off that that we just finished a four week webmaker MOOC that was sort of basic training on webmaker and basically the tools and the pedagogy and the practice behind it, but we actually are. I can't come strong to the mic with a date per se, but we are planning a version of that webmaker training for librarians specifically and very much looking to work with moz librarians, I can never say that right, to mozlarians there you go, to be co-constructors of that MOOC and co-facilitators but that will be in the fall, probably in October is about as specific as I can get and we will be doing a massive outreach, the goal really is to get thousands of librarians into that participatory training program and literally hundreds of librarians looking to co-facilitate and design what that experience might be like so that link that is on the screen share that I can send around or make sure it gets to your distribution channel that you can see the training as it exists now and the discussion threads so you can kind of get a sense and then we are definitely doing one for librarians that will happen in the fall. Yeah if nothing else I think I might be interested in attending so yeah please keep us posted and send any links possible. I just want to jump in another thing that you can do if you save your pennies as I've done for the last two years is go to attend the Mozilla festival in which is held in London each around the same time around October each year and I would really I mean there's already that's where I met okay and some other librarians already some librarians showing up but that's like the best place also to immerse yourself in the world and the possibilities and the energy that is Mozilla and you can propose sessions and we as a library community can shape how that looks also so I really recommend going and we just like shared an awesome Airbnb and some of us were sleeping on the floor and it was very fun. I've had that sort of experience before. We've been camping. So I'm going to ask a very open any question for all three of you and you've all kind of touched upon it but I'll just give a situation of okay we're on Nebraska a small library staff of maybe one and a half people this all sounds really cool what should I do how do I get started do I just declare myself a Mozilarian and off I go what sort of advice would you give somebody in a really really small rural library who just finds this stuff interesting but isn't sure what to do next. So I mean I'll pick that one so I think one of the things is to start digging into the maker of party page to to poke around the also the web literacy tool and just try out a few things yourself there are some teaching kits and activities that you can remix so I would you know start getting familiar with it yourself pick something that might go along and with ideas and programming you already have I mean that's I think some of the beauty of what has just like this huge range of resources that you can adapt to likely things you're already doing and thinking so there's you know getting to know it yourself there's also finding out you know what other are there any Miss Owens in your community who else might be interested in this and other in your small library network also find out like who are the I I partly grew up in rural Saskatchewan so I know what that looks like and there was a lot of tinkering and making going on in like you know our shop on our farm so that might be a really cool way also to connect with local makers and sort of create sort of a celebration of making and finally of course the MOOC that Chris mentioned I'm actually doing there's a training that you can do that self directed so that's something I started doing and yeah so those Chris you probably have a more coherent way of laying this out but those are some of the things that come to mind and you know connect with us and send us an email and you know we can continue the conversation and give you some ideas yeah I would say well we've got a we've got a pretty vibrant google plus community those are the web makers that is a good place to sort of be involved in a rolling conversation and share out but we also have while there is self directed training and there will be a training for librarians the web maker instance of the conversation platform discourse is ongoing so and it's just always on and has vibrant conversation on a daily basis and so I'd say to people in this scenario that you laid out is that there really is vibrant community and then even sub-communities that it's very easy to connect and start to collaborate very quickly so Mazlarians ding ding for me is already a very specific community and I think joining that and then that is already connected to the broader web maker community and there's lots of places to have conversations to share and both in digital format and then opportunities for that to manifest itself face to face once you start making those connections and seeing who's more regional also that I can get make sure that this information is on in your distribution list for following up there the national 4-H is a partner on maker party this year and so we're helping 4-H clubs to do these maker parties so perfect community and organization to partner with so might be might be combining forces with other people in your town that have similar things and in similar interests maker parties are really strongest when they you know if it's more than just some people sitting around a table which we love as well but if they're a little bit larger even 10 people plus they're always better when they have a couple different organizations or or leaders or community members kind of coming together and sort of seeing how their interest their mission and their stuff cross pollinate so looking and contacting the local 4-H club might might be a good start but those are those are some immediate ideas about how to get started and if you on webmaker.org there is there is a full list of where to find you know how to connect and how to join various communities in conversation okay did you want to add anything to that or do you think they got it covered all right we're running up towards our hour but I'm going to attempt to make this go just a little bit long here and I was wondering Chris specifically for you if I gave you control back is there any way you could give us like a 3 minute which I realized might be asking much kind of demo slash showing us popcorn maker because I got to be honest that sounds really cool sure I'd be happy to all right let me let me give you control back here I realize showing video editing in a webinar is not exactly the easiest thing to do but I just love to kind of take a look at it well while we got you here sure so if you I just I'll just walk you I was at I click tools and that gets you kind of to to the three tools I described quickly there so let's see I'll start from scratch and I'll go back and show remix so most of you probably have played around with iMovie or some other similar video editing software so it has a very similar look and feel you have your timeline approach you've got your your preview screen and you've got your your toolbar over onto the right but what's different about this is that you're actually as you create you're creating a video from web bits or web pieces and so as you can see you can pull in media from YouTube SoundCloud Giffy those media sources or if you even have you know web served HTML5 version of a piece of media that you made or something along those lines you can pull that and you can start to pull that together and if you click on events then you know you can pull you have these editing features as well so you can pull in 3D models you can pull in stuff from Wikipedia you can pull in stuff images that are on the web you can pull in slideshows like from a Flickr stream or and you can also annotate so that's kind of the blank screen version and then once you publish what happens is the video at the different timestamps you've told the video to do a call out to the piece of web you want it goes and finds that YouTube clip or that Flickr stream and makes a mashup of all of those web bits as when you told it to work and then how to do it now so I'm going to do from remix and make which starts to show how that happens a little bit oh you know what let me do it's going to be a little bit embarrassing but I'll show you what I mean so I have this thing that I like to call popcorn mood rings so this is something when I'm in a certain mood and I have a song that's in my head that sort of is about that mood I go on Giffy which is just a clearing house of animated GIFs and I take the song and I just grab it from YouTube probably and I delete out the video or I just not delete it but I just don't highlight it so I use the audio track from YouTube and I collect GIFs to the song and mood and then it usually helps me examine the different mood or feeling that I'm in so if I hit remix on one of those I'm into the video editor but what's nice is I can now build off somebody else I can't remember the song in a great mood that day but if I hit play you'll see that on layer two all the different GIFs that I pulled and what's nice about the remix is that you could just go and click on that and you could just swap those out and so you can start to see how different people use it and use that template of someone else's project as a way to make your own and so we really like this remix feature of all of our tools let's really remix this conversation and as tutorial this is mine or not the most dynamic because I'm just pulling a YouTube clip as you can see here on the right you can see here I can have the video on I can have the audio on or off I can adjust the volume I can say which seconds of the which seconds that I want of the video specifically so I know that this has generally been not easy but I will it's only 30 seconds I'll kind of show one of these in action so imagine if you can't hear it the isolated clip of recently departed Mary Clayton's background vocals on the Rolling Stones Gimme Shelter and then my my the remixed animated GIFs are with it so basically what's every time it plays the script is grabbing that YouTube clip and this GIF over top of it so I'll stop it there but you sort of get the point and this is a very basic one I made in like a couple minutes just to sort of kind of do a digital primal screen and I do make happy popcorn mood rings as well but that's a quick look it's really dynamic it's a great way to introduce the ideas of APIs about how the web is constantly going and finding stuff on the web and bringing in something else and it's a great kind of next iteration of what video on the web potential can be so we can almost spend a whole other episode just on this and Kristen and I are sitting here going that's so cool two quick questions for me one quick question well maybe quick question from the audience the two for me are can you pull in your own content and can you export your finished product or does it just kind of work in this environment so you can use your own content with the caveat that it has to be on the web so if you've got a piece of video and you put it to YouTube or you put it to Vimeo or on SoundCloud if it's audio then you draw it from that so there's a in between step or if you have your own web server and you put the HTML file you know if you're a little bit more advanced you could do those things as well so yes you could definitely use your own content it's just you have to keep in mind that you have to have it on the web to bring it into the tool and then when you hit publish then it gives you in fact this is what I start up it gives you this so you see Jennifer Lawrence there losing her mind in the diner and that is now it has to be in the browser right so this is browser based video but it gives you this link with this kind of video player and there's embed codes and stuff and you could do a screen capture or something if you wanted to make it not online but yes you have a published feature and it gives you what you're looking at on the screen right now okay and the last question we'll do we'll wrap this up but from the audience and I suppose I should have thought of this too what are the copyright implications of what you're just showing us here well general fair use general fair use covers all of this I mean this is using it in a fair use generally protects mostly remix culture and these all come with Creative Commons licenses perfect where you can place your own Creative Commons licenses on work that you make okay I agree with you completely I just think well you know somebody asked we want to state that for the record so I totally understand and it's always asked you know and that you know you're dealing with librarians we're gonna ask that question so it usually comes up somehow so this has been wonderful I mean I've got all sorts of notes of things I want to go spend the next six days playing with do any of you want you know all your mics are turned on any last words before we wrap up the show no I just wanted to thank you for for inviting us and for allowing us to sort of publicly dig into and promote you know the Modularian concept I really encourage everyone who's listening to reach out and follow up and you know we'll be happy to share resources and links and give ideas about next steps alright thanks for having us you're very welcome this was great like I said both Chris and I are gonna have some new toys to play with here in the immediate future okay so we'll quick here I'm gonna go ahead and take back control for just a few more moments show my screen oh clean yeah this there we go you should be seeing delicious okay yeah I just had everything minimized so as usual we just do kind of a quick little newsy thing at the end here as we wrap up tech talk I've really only got two things that I found recently that I thought I wanted to share one here and I will bring these up real quick is folks an author over at ours Technica has written a 40,000 word article on the history of the android operating system with screenshots from every single version back to versions you've never seen and it's I've started reading it's amazing article it's it's one of those you know too long didn't read you know you get back to it later but I it's a wonderful article if you're interested in the android operating system at all and the other one this was just I was so amused by this one I discovered yesterday speaking of copyright an artist so you can't buy this took a copy of 1984 on their Kindle and literally photocopied the Kindle with all of the text on it and then put it together as a book because breaking the DRM to publish it would have been illegal but photocopying it maybe or maybe wasn't I don't know I just I was I was completely amused by this we'll provide a link to this in the show notes you can take a look I almost want to buy one for myself in some weird and twisted sort of way so that's all of the kind of only newsy items I have and other things to point you to so that's going to wrap up tech talk and so I will hand it back over to Krista to wrap up the show for today great thank you all right thank you Michael and thank you Chris Christine and okay got them all for being on the show today that will wrap it up for this morning we have recorded the show so we're all good 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