 Debbie So first of all, I'd like to second that notion about enjoying the risk show and the show about money and these ones where you just take a topic and and Analyze it. I really enjoy those shows. So I do too. Well on the same well on the same side Yeah, yeah for sure So I actually encountered this morning something that I considered to be good news about the culture And so I thought I'd share that and see what you think if your perspective is is similar to mine on that This is good news and I encountered it. I'll warn you now. I encountered it in an article about the election I am not calling to talk about politics Calling to talk about this other thing So, um, it was in a new york new york times article talking about why the biden campaign should be worried and some progressive Some progressives are concerned that latinos are not going to vote uh for biden And that they may not vote at all and that's in itself is not neither good nor bad really I guess but But why I was just really I thought it was really great. So they said that these progressive pollsters they've done 15 focus groups in a national survey and and what this article said is progressives commonly categorize latinos as people of color No doubt partly because progressive latinos see the group that way and encourage others to do so as well um Yet in our survey only one in four hispanics saw themselves as people of color And instead they reject this designation They prefer to see themselves as a group integrating into the american mainstream one not overly bound by racial constraints But instead able to get ahead through hard work I just thought that was wonderful like that this big demographic group is is saying hey, we're not a tribe We're americans quit treating us like a tribe and I thought that was wonderful I was pleasantly surprised by that so curious what you think I agree with you completely And I I think it's true. I've always said this I I find the hispanics I meet um You know, uh hardworking they're ambitious whether they're legal or illegally here They they they want to make a living. They want to take care of their families. They're entrepreneurial. They start businesses They very few of them just want to be on welfare and and and not do anything particularly first generation I think I think where the corruption happens the second or third generation But there the corruption is not because they're hispanics or not because they're immigrants, but the corruption happens because of our our educational system our government schools But I I think that's absolutely true that they because they're entrepreneurs. They tend to be pro more pro business um, and I think that I think that there's a reason they left they leave their cultures partially they leave their cultures because of opportunities but think about If there's five million people in Guatemala, why do the these hundred thousand people leave and the rest stay and it's because the people who leave are more ambitious more independent braver more courageous and these exactly the kind of people you want in this country and When you look at and and if you look at the way they vote they don't vote as a bloc they they've You know jews and blacks are much more likely to vote as blocs than hispanics uh, indeed hispanics like cubans vote uh, republican in texas hispanics are much more likely to vote republican than in california and why? because republicans have treated hispanics really really really badly in california so My view is and I've held this for years now That the reason hispanics vote for democrats is not because they like democrats. It's because republicans treat them really badly if you watch the debates and and republican after republican after republican describe how horrible, you know The you know immigrants from mexico are Then guess what the immigrants from mexico are not gonna like you because you've you've shown immense disrespect towards them um in places like texas where republicans have treated uh immigrants from mexico and our latin american countries with respect They have gotten their votes. Uh, they tend to be You know unfortunately they tend to be religious but but they tend to be conservative in their in their social views they tend to be Po uh small business at least you know They tend and they tend to assimilate every study I've seen shows That they assimilate just like Previous generations of immigrants. There's no difference between hispanic immigration and the immigration of irish and italians and and jews in the late 19th century early 20th century in terms of their assimilation and the only reason why In some cases it doesn't happen is because of our educational system not because of anything to do with their culture. So I find republican attitude towards hispanics to be truly horrific and truly awful and if only they lightened up Uh, I think they would get a lot more of their votes, uh, whether that's good or bad is a different question But I think they'd get a lot more of their votes. So Um, so I agree with you. I think it's a it's a good sign Uh, that that maybe even some progressives are realizing that Uh, they shouldn't treat everybody as groups that these people are individuals and they want to assimilate. They want to become americans Yeah, and the fact that they also they're not interested in voting for trump. They're just saying well, we're probably just not going to vote I mean that's that's actually also encouraging If not voting but but yes, it's it's But the other aspect of that is it, you know If you look at the if you look at the numbers hispanics tend to not vote very much Even in past elections. So, uh, turn out among Hispanic immigrants even you know citizens tends to be low. Um, and uh, so even those people who you know Want to stop immigration because the immigrants vote democratic It's just not true because they just don't vote very often. They don't vote much So they don't have they're not a big force Uh particularly particularly presidential maybe in local elections, but not in presidential elections Yeah, well, maybe maybe they would vote if there were someone who was a better alternative I I still think that americans whatever wherever they happen to come from Would respond to a better alternative. I I still have that hope. I hope I'm right But but yes, maybe maybe if we had You know, not objectives candidate, but just a candidate who understood something about america and something about individualism and something about markets I think the I think americans would rally around a candidate like that. Unfortunately Not last election not this election. I'm I'm I'm hopeful for the future but but Partially depends on what happens this election What we need today what I called a new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think Meaning any man or woman who knows that man's life must be guided by reason By the intellect not by feelings wishes wins or mystic revelations Any man or woman who values his life and who does not Want to give in to today's cult of the stare cynicism and impotence And does not intend to give up the world to the dark ages and to the role of the collectivist roads All right, before we go on reminder, please like the show. 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