 last year, and I'm calling this annual meeting to order. And the first item of business is to elect a moderator, and I'll let Scott guide over that election. Thank you very much, Gus. And welcome, everyone. Thank you very much for coming. But in order to elect a moderator, I would welcome a motion from the floor to nominate a candidate for moderator. I nominate Professor Sele. Scott Massage nominates Gus Selec for moderator. Is there a second? I'll second it. Second. May I have your name, please? Mary Orbson. Mary Orbson. Mary Orbson. It's a great question. It's been a long year. It's been a long year. Very true. Are there any other nominations from the floor? If there are no other nominations from the floor, would all in favor of Gus Selec as moderator please say aye. Aye. I guess that does it, Gus. You're elected. Thank you very much. Gus, did you watch the podium? Would it be easier for you? I said, what a great one. Let's see how. How does this work? Can you hear me in the back? Okay. Can you hear me in the back? Today we're most, this is just a meeting to discuss proposed central, Washington Central Unified Union School District's budget and articles of warning. So we're not going to do any business. We're going to just learn tonight. That's the purpose of this meeting. Before we get into that and we'll leave a short presentation. Scott, I understand there's another piece of business you wanted to do. So I'm going to turn it to you to do that business. Once again, thank you very much Gus. Just so that you know, I have been wondering ever since I was made chair of this board, what if any perks there might be to compensate for the multitude of hassles that accompany the position. And finally, on the very last day of this board's, this currently seated board's existence, I have discovered it. And that is, I am able to preside over first a Thanksgiving dinner of sorts, or maybe a dinner of Thanksgiving. And now this meeting and a chance to present at least a small token of gratitude to those among us who were precursors of this board and who remain friends and valued colleagues, neighbors, fellow citizens. So if you will permit me, I don't kind of take up too much time. But I don't know if Will Baker is here. Will is not, but Ruben, may I invite you to come up? Is Karen Bradley here? I don't see Chris Cadorette. Eric Chase. Darcy. So much gratitude. It's so few people to receive it. Allison. No, Allison? Susanna is not here either. Nicole Laverde is not here. Jonathan. Steven, this experience is to see that there's a fairly high recidivism rate among former board members. So Caroline, Julie, is Julie here? Corinne. But Carl Wickey is here. We're sure we're able to come. There is Mr. Wickey. We're very happy to. So that concludes the fun part of the evenings. Now, the next item on the agenda is to discuss the proposed Washington Central budget. Is this something I should move? You can take whoever's going to present this. I want to go to it. Okay. Thank you very much. So this session is essentially we have teed up a budget presentation. But I think many of you are already familiar with the budget or have other issues that you'd like to raise. So what I'm hoping we'll be able to do, this is just sort of to keep things moving for when there's nothing else better or more interesting for you to talk about. But this is your meeting. And we want very much for you to get out of it what you hope to. These are the board goals, very general. But you may find that this is this very event involves essentially all three of these goals. So the school board that is seated up through tomorrow is as you see here. Lindy, would you start, please? Lindy Johnson from the Smogilir. Chris B. Gray from Middlesex. Scott Thompson from Calis. Gloria Smith from the Smogilir. Darby Naylor from Calis. Jonas Edelman Fleet from Worcester. Gail Polskamp from Worcester. And we are missing Vera Frazier from Berlin, George Gross from Berlin, and Mary Lynn Straken from Middlesex. So this is the cartoon version of what we've been doing over the past few months. This is just to show that the budget is the result of a lot of pulling and hauling and pushing and counter-pushing. This is also the result of a cyclical approach where the administration prepares the budget drafts, they send them through the finance committee and the board as well as forums like this, and then back before it's developed. Now what you're seeing now is the final result of several iterations of this process. The part, basically where you are on this chart is in between the second to bottom box that says board approval and the bottom box that says voter approval. Enrollment is very important because it is the denominator of the tax formula. Our enrollment, as you can see, is relatively flat with a slight downward inflection. Equalized pupils are an administrative construct where, depending on the type of student, age, I think other factors weigh in, special education, poverty, as well. That feeds into the calculation of equalized pupils, and it's the equalized pupils that divides into the total education spending in the budget to give that crucial ratio of spending per pupil that determines the tax rate. These are just perhaps you would call them highlights. Information pretty much speaks for itself, and this is the summary of the budget. If you look over to the far right hand side, the big bold face number is combined expenses, and then there are subtracting from, there's a revenue factor that decreases to an education spending increase of 3.09%. I'm going to stop here and just any questions, any comments, any concerns. The increase seems high, 5.3%. This, excuse me, I would maybe defer to Lori. Just a salary and benefit increase, it's also staffing changes, and so if you have a book and you look on page 20, it kind of outlines more detail about what that increase represents. Would you like me to go through the top area there, Rick, and explain it? Health inflation is going up 12.9%. We have about a 1.182925, 3.49% are negotiated costs, and you can see the staffing changes below that represent 1.94%, and those are primarily in special education with reimbursements. That's the staffing, there's three lines for staffing on that page, and you can see the bulk of them are in special education. And Lori, the revenues on the second line from the bottom are minus 529,000. Are those primarily reimbursements for special education? It actually makes up, it's made up by three big items that are at the bottom of that page. It's additional tuition income, it's special education reimbursements, and transportation aid on our buses for students to get to and from school. Thank you very much. Since something is being said about staffing, I've already brought it up to a couple of people, but I was really disappointed that salary staff information wasn't included in the annual report. Most of the towns have been including that information in their local town reports. And to not have it when 70% of the budget is staffing was very disappointing to me. And now I requested a copy, which I got. Apparently there's some reticence about post-net with the other budget resources online, which again, it's $24.5 million of the budget, and it seems like that should be available to folks. Thank you, Karen. Can people use the mic when they're speaking from the audience? We have two mics over there. If one could stand up when you're speaking, and it mentioned your name so we can record you in the minutes, that would be helpful. Don't mind if I suggest that. Of course not. Or we could move it over there. All wireless stuff. Would you like to hear the comment repeated? Yes. Or maybe would you like to... I said that to the government. Yes. Since we're talking about staffing, I was very disappointed that in the annual school report, that a list of staffing information was not included. It's been included in local town reports. And even though we're one district now, it is something specifically in Berlin, our voters have voted in the past to have that information included. It makes up 70% of that $35 million budget, which would be $24.5 million. And it seems like that information should be available to folks. I did receive a copy when I requested it. Central Office seems a bit reticent to post it on the website, even though it's been in town reports and posted on websites before. And I hope that you recognize that. It's a large chunk of the budget and I think people like to know where the money is going to. Thanks. Good. I'd also like to invite some of my colleagues on the board if you have any comments that you'd like to make at this point, as this chart is shown, anything that you would like to highlight or... I guess I would just want to thank the administrators for all their work, because they've been working on this in September with us. And this is the sixth draft, I think, that we've worked on. So just to say that when we have the public with us. Great. Next minute. Anything else? Should we proceed? Oh, I'm sorry. Kimberly. Hi. Kimberly Dussup. And one question is, now that this is a unified budget, can somebody speak to how the infrastructure, construction, depreciation costs, et cetera, are addressed? It looks like there was a transfer from the capital fund to offset debt service, but I'm just wondering now what the prioritization process was in terms of building this budget for all the disparate parts now becoming one. Thank you very much. Great question. Once again, Lori, do you want to explain that line, please? Turn your mic on, please. Okay. That line is a combination of the loan repayments for the year and a transfer to the capital fund. There's more information in the book about breaking that into two lines because that includes the debt service, and that's actually a reduction in debt service since the U32-based bond has been paid off. So that's not an increase, that's a decrease of $390,000. Just so you're aware. Because the bond payment has been paid off on this building, the first bond. There's two bonds on this building. And what I'm also just trying to get at is given the different elementary schools having different needs, how is the budget going to address and prioritize among those needs? That's a wonderful question. And I would first invite the administration to answer it. But I think there's still discretion to come on this. Okay. So for this particular year, we have a couple sets of funds going on. We have the money that came over from the existing buildings when we merged. And that money is separate and distinct by building. And then we have an amount in this budget that is going to be appropriated based on a plan that the board had reviewed and authorized. So there is money by town. There are projects in motion. There is a plan in place for each school. The board received a summary of that over the last few months' meetings. And we're kind of catching up with that. Where we are going forward is we're developing a plan for the future. And we've been working on that as an initial stage for this year. But right now we have approximately 15 building projects for improvements going on this summer. So if you'd like a copy of that, I didn't bring it tonight. I don't know if anyone did, but we could email it to you. So at least you would know what's going on at each building for this year. But there's about 15 projects that are smaller than others. Okay. Thank you very much. And there's one more question. There's still the unresolved question of distribution of bed service from pre-emerge robots that hasn't yet been... We haven't yet figured out how to account for that in the grand scheme of things. We're hoping that we can maybe make some progress on that. I found report lacking in detail that I would find interesting. And from what I've been hearing from people walking into our town office, they feel is missing is a great plan by school. And I understand we're all on school district map. However, to build a $35 million budget, we must be starting with what each of the six schools needs based on their enrollment and what they have for staffing and what programs they have going on. And so to have that information broken down, we seem like that's where it starts anyway to build up to the large budget but also would be needed in so many ways. You know, we can't see what cost savings you have going forward if you're not still able to make some comparisons about where things were and where they are, where they're going. And if, having permitted, we should never have to talk about closements which I hope we never will, where would you have to break down the cost again to look at if you don't have that information? I mean, maybe it would be great if I recreated why not just put it out there to close the whole way through. It wasn't even a census of all students in the report, which to me, that's critical when we're talking about how many students get straight down there whether the number was 1,507 or more through that, the whole district. But what does that bring down to? And the graph that shows the enrollment slightly nudging down, still, what does that look like otherwise and very wise for people to understand why there may or may not be a need for more or fewer teachers who can't look at those details. So I'm all into details and I've been following these budgets for the past 25 years and we used to talk about details like how much is being spent on books and how much is being spent on field trips and those would go to some rich discussions as far as what was happening in those areas and now you just get this big bubble overview that how can you follow and understand what's going on. Thank you, Chris. Rick. My name is Ann Stanton. I'm going to be small clear and I want to second Corinne's point. I was never adamantly opposed to coming together. In fact, I thought maybe there would be a little bit of savings but I'm finding myself feeling a bit at sea was precisely the reasons that Corinne is talking about and it seems to me that many of us have been involved in a school district for 25 or 30 years. We are used to knowing what's going on. We don't have children, small children in the school anymore but we're still deeply interested in it and I think there's no better way to, what shall I say, to turn people away from interest in the school district as a whole than to show everything at 30,000 feet. We are going to keep a sense of our schools. We need to have that detailed information and I don't know maybe it's too expensive to print but it should be at least available online and there should be paper copies for those people who don't have a computer facility. So I too am very disappointed. I thought it was a slick production but it didn't tell me anything. Thank you very much. Rick came from Dallas. I'm third with that and this was Act 46 after the initial claims that this was all about cost and then it turned out this was all about activity. We need to have some checks and balances on that and we are only getting this 30,000 foot look and we've broken these budgets down by school for forever in the past. It's not a lot of extra work to do this and maintain that and it's a way we can be looking at what's being invested in schools versus performance these students coming out of those schools and I really want to see this I don't, how do I I believe in that trust but verify because we've led astray a number of times in the past several years and I don't have great trust I want to see these budgets and I want to see them by town so that they make sure it I don't know that, can you hear me? I don't know that I have old dancers that you're looking for but what I can't tell you is that the budget is built in what students need so this budget doesn't cut from the instructional pie and what we're really, really trying to do is build in our multi-tier system of supports so what this budget represents is investment in teacher in educating teachers the word is professional development and we're investing in tier two interventions where you give a child at least six weeks of a quick extra on math and literacy you make sure that that kid is not going to go into needing special education so this budget represents the use of best practices to bring student outcomes so it's hard to break it out in buildings really because what it is is how do we take care of all the kids at different levels different means the middle school has different needs and each of our schools has different needs but we haven't had the equity conversation among our board we haven't had that conversation but this budget started at that level so all of our principals collaborated to make sure that we were going to have best outcomes for kids which is what we are all here about that's all I can offer to do to make that point I get that when I was working on it before I was privy to those conversations as well but I don't talk about trainings but I want to see a significant performance in these students I want to see if you've got lower performance coming out of the schools I want to be able to verify that there are schools I don't mean I don't want this big gray box I'm 61 years old and I've watched this all my life in politics at every level the public paying the taxes and we support these students who are our kids we want them to be strong and we want to we will do our due diligence to look at that to make sure that time that we expect to have that kind of information there are a lot of important points being made here one thing to realize is that with the merger we now have a $35 million budget that puts us pretty much comparable to the Vermont Agency of Commerce and Community Development which has about the same budget so basically we've become a public bureaucracy and in order to and we're functioning that way and maybe there are ways that we can get into those details so as to make sure that we don't turn people off or don't alienate them from their connection to their schools which is part of what keeps them alive and vibrant but please more as you come up with these comments they're very valuable and appreciate them greatly this is the pie chart that shows essentially the distribution of the $35 million throughout all six schools in the central office as you can see almost three quarters is already salary and benefits and even in some of those smaller pie slices there are also that money is also going to pay people so this is an aspect of the budget that I think is important always to bear in mind this is an economic engine for our region for our communities that the people who get paid from this budget are actually paying back into our communities in all kinds of different ways so there's a real multiplier effect that I think redounds to the benefit of all of us and this is just looking at changes in the budget from this year to next year most of these increases are going into aspects of the organization that directly work with students and to my way of thinking this is if we're going to look at the budget from a 30,000 foot altitude this is the sort of thing that we hope to see is these kinds of investments and the change the absolute change is basically from top to bottom and not exactly so we're pretty close if there are no comments Jonathan? I just had one just concerning the food program support or something I've spoken in the past about the idea that our community provide breakfast and lunch for all the students at no cost I still think that and so I would be interested in knowing what that number would be and I realize it's a projection and I'm not asking for that obviously right now because this budget is in the past but in future budgets or in developing future budgets that number be researched and determined as to what it would cost our communities to provide and it may not be French cuisine by any means but if kids can come to school and have a good meal a healthy meal at breakfast and a good one at lunch when we're at school would be I think a monumental support for our kids and our families here so and it would be truly something that the nation would look at as a wonderful thing and I think it could be done I just don't know what that number is I know it's a lot more than $150,000 Thank you very much Jonathan I don't have the number here tonight We did have it So these are the tax rate protections based on the budget that you've just looked at and you can see for your town where it comes out the major changes in our tax rates were from pre-merger to this year first year of merger the we're all starting out as if you look at the note at the bottom of the page we all start with the same equalized tax rate because we're being looked at as though all five of our towns were one single taxable entity the reason why each town then has a different rate in the end is because of the level of appraisal People look for me so I'm good here I don't have any specifics on this I just happened in the last couple days over the news to hear that the state has a not even sure what website is that but they now have a feature at the state level where you can input your own family income cost of your dwelling there's four or five figures you put in including the per pupil spending and it'll spit out at the end how it will impact your particular tax rate I apologize I don't have any information on it but for people that are interested in getting specific detail on their particular family situation of the tax some kind of a site or app or whatever would be called at the state level I saw on the news this morning and heard on the news so for those of you that are interested it might be worth exploring so anyway this is how the budget info was communicated and if I may ask your opinion as to whether you find the communication to have been successful I see at least one hand shaking I would welcome any sort of any sort of responses any ideas as to how we can do it better next time if you thought it should be done better I think part of the problem this year was weren't aware of what was going on in the books until it was too late only a fault of ours for not being more on top of it me personally when I learned the salary information the FTEs of how many people are in the building was not in but this year was so different what different it was going to look that next year we have it better I think there's been a lot of communication over the years between the tax books offices in central office as far as what our tax payers what our voters have been asked information could be made available information that more than one meeting are interested in getting the time reports and similar hearing they kind of already had it in their mind how they're going to vote but they are still interested just because they don't give it in time to vote without more information I'm so sorry my view of you is I just wanted to confess that if there was a notice mailed to me I must have and so I was also not aware that there were copies on the web in school and central offices I mean that's one of the downsides of not having kids in school and getting weekly reports so I would like to suggest getting a front porch format and knowing that something like 97% for monitors form that there be also a notification put there also when it says copies that's copies of the full and copies we used to get mailed copies of like the U32 report copies this year it was at one of the at one of the organizational meetings forget which one backflash spring the April meeting the assembled just like this the assembled meeting the assembled voters from all the towns voted not to send universally to all voters the annual report but to make a notice of availability and when that was an experiment it noted it's very expensive but there's got to be I mean the retention on paper things that come through there's got to be a better comes every year is to set up a ritual like that even if it's not a mailed copy there has to be some kind of expectation that okay, it's February because I completely didn't know it was happening we would have to vote on such a thing at this meeting I would be advised but that's people are giving you advice as we speak thank you very much I'll answer of course, yeah of course I will I'll start and then Lord so we have been discussing the capital by school districts what each project require more memorization about funding but it has been a very prominent feature also having individual to oversee the construction projects and build forward to every school and he's agreed to take that role so he's already started working with us on Wednesday we have a project that he's ready to oversee and manage those projects also mentioned we've heard a number of times from you in the forecast and then you have obsolescence in mind everything I've seen over the last year shows me that we're doing a budget level or a budget in print as well as we did for the worst-case scenario or insurance settlement with the statewide level so I see that long-term plan there I see that long-term plan beginning to happen on the facility side something that's very important to you I've been very impressed with the way that the administration has communicated to us and communicated to the principals in each of the buildings and the staff in each of the buildings to ensure those things have been taken care of nothing's going to be perfect right there's always going to be gaps but I think we're moving feedback has been important that over the last year so that's why I wanted to take this opportunity and this year we need to be sure that those works have not gone out to the next year I just want to thank you all I've come in and out of meetings and to even just get to this point you all have done your own work there's a lot more things that could be done for sure but I think as Rick said when this started in 2015 the emphasis was on cost savings I think we all know that for years it seems to have gone some other direction and I'm wondering what the board is going to do about saving cost because I'm looking forward to it and I don't know whether you've got a committee you've got some expertise here that can look at what we're doing going forward and save us money because property taxes are out of sight this is very much on our minds but we're finding it very difficult to actually cut costs there's a natural tendency because of the expanding needs that we're encountering we're trying to keep up with those and that costs more money on this I just want to add some statistics today about the press from the state how people are going down you know all this taxes are going up household I was wondering if you would rely on the community there are some folks that would volunteer to look just at cost savings and work with you on that maybe that's a good approach because regardless of how this is transpired as I said before I think we're all waiting for the cost to go down I may be wrong but I will it's a very interesting idea thanks I appreciate that that's your question about the privacy yeah I think it's a good thing Cambly is here because I think that would take legislative action to I think the CLA's are still town by town but it's it is an incoherence as you point out really that we're supposed to be one district and yet we're being treated for CLA and I might would it be okay if I were to there's one potential right in the candidates from is that allowed I'm not sure but the candidate stands up I guess that would be me let's say something brief I've served on these 32 school board for quite a while 10 years I think so a little hiatus for about a year or more last but I'm going to be asking folks to write me in for the two year term tomorrow from my Jonathan Goddard from Berlin sorry I didn't introduce myself earlier so I'd be very interested in inserting you in we've already had a little fling but I feel very strongly about the school, about the district about the people here about the kids particularly and the families so I would appreciate it if you would consider tomorrow and if you would for the two year term thank you thanks so much Jonathan I'll display your name so we can tell people about yeah it was Goddard College but it's the same spelling G-O-P-D-A-R-D thank you G-O-P-D-A-R-D thank you I don't think so we're interested to mention from the board another from Berlin, right in yes that sounds like a very good one Stephen can make it very good I'm Stephen Delinger-Bake Berlin resident we do have another Ryan candidate in Berlin Michael Splemming who is also going for the three year term so we don't have any candidates on the ballot so you have to write in for Berlin and so we would love to have Diane Nichols-Slemming and Jonathan Goddard three year and two year so if you guys could help us out that would be great as a Berlin resident we would like full representation thanks and Stephen do you know how to spell Diane Nichols-Slemming G-O-P-D-A-R-D G-O-P-D-A-R-D yes I do my proxy my ventriloquism for you thank you Berlin, nice to make us work for their representation are there any other questions or comments or comments but we can hear a motion from the floor it's not even sorry I'm Dave Conner I have just a quick comment the jury is out on act 46 still and it landed on all of you and so I'm seconding what Pat said about the incredible work that all of you have had to do and the fact that it is a bit of a new educational bureaucracy that we're dealing with the reason I'm bringing out besides the words of gratitude to you all is that there will be the same kinds of discussions about reporting and jurisdiction and good ideas and what part goes into what in all the towns tomorrow a town meeting and so I'm recommending that we do a comparison and feedback both to the legislature and to one another and all the school districts because each district may solve one of the issues and questions we've raised in a more creative way or have a new idea when we decide how we will proceed what next year at this time it will look like we're benefiting from the mistakes and the hopes and the ideas of the entire state so thank you all thank you Dave thank you another wonderful idea and Chris read your motion from the floor I'm not making that what's your motion what's your motion stop based on what we heard tonight sounds like there's a a desire to the citizens in terms of budget salary, school performance and other items you don't actually get a motion to have a detail I understand that what we'll do because we had a vote the one term for mailing it to mailing then at least for the mailing part do you hear a motion on that I understand it to you yeah but this was not a worn item so you certainly heard a lot of feedback tonight that you need to do a better job communicating with voters and you may need that as a legal issue thank you once again the same advice sorry well I would like to make a requirement for a resolution or a suggestion that whatever report we put out that beyond newsprint I find this to be seemed to be very expensive we've always had newsprint before and it works better to other providers sorry we have a suggestion that we go back to putting it in our town reports just get into the towns before the town report goes to press and you can go in the animal town report in all five towns and almost everybody gets those if they come into the office for a meal you wouldn't have to do a meal they can get an all town report thank you Rosemary there was up here about there being some logistical issues to reckon with but we noted it and thank you very much I just I don't know if this is appropriate so you can stop me I went to the Supreme Court hearing in Middlebury and Lodge David Kelly performed miracles I hope that who has spent his entire last couple of years free for nothing and what he did in front of the Supreme Court just blew me away he was spectacular there's a few of us that would put the word he would start something so that we could all thank him appropriately thank you may I solicit and from the meeting may I ask a question if we engaged members of our communities here a lot of faces I've seen in more than one of our meetings over the last year and that's saying a lot because those meetings are sparsely attended it's pretty clear when we went through the list of district priorities and number one was broadening communication with the community and I'll admit that that's something that I fell down on I have not been together to summaries of all of our meetings and she sends that to all of us to the Coast on Front porch forum that's why they all look the same because Dorothy's done the work thank you Dorothy there's information that people wish was in the report and the report was more easily accessible but we've done a lot of things this year I don't want to let this annual meeting go by without asking you folks about some of them so some of the things that we did in no particular order off the top of my head we have addressed the challenges and I give a lot of credit to Steven and Jen who's not here today our work has been done a proficiency based graduation requirement it was a real tough meeting about that across the hall a few weeks ago people think now that we are deeper into college admissions the policy committee by law we had to pass all of our policies straight straight up at the beginning of the year Chris and the policy team a lot of work that there had been some important policy changes made we've talked a lot about social justice we've talked to the administrators and principals about trauma based informed practices and how to support our populations they're dealing with a lot of trauma we have discussed the price of school lunch we have had conversations about equity there's a long year long conversation about how this board organizes itself and how we integrate into the community more we keep going back to these fen diagrams of communities and stakeholders we intend to share information and create information moving horizontally and up and down there's a lot of other things have gone on but I would just I'd love to hear from you folks about we saw some initial test scores in math and reading and conversations in the board in public session about how we're teaching reading how we're teaching leaders how the changes to special education funding are going to affect us and before we break this meeting up I would love to hear from you folks some more there's a whole lot of topics for conversation there and we are here to listen to that I hesitate to say this because I know how hard you all work to continue to be impressed by Dave Yadavoni's report on the porch forum from the legislature I really would like to have our school board members give us a personal report that is along those lines how maybe you can alternate different months but I've appreciated Dott's summaries but somehow it feels more like an outline that somebody is talking to me and telling me what's going on the way you just did I'll say that that's been difficult to do trying to put out communication that speaks with one voice because I think we do agree on most of our stuff here it has been difficult to get centered around one voice the open meeting law makes it difficult for us to get together when we're not in open session and talking about that kind of messaging but I hear that I don't accept because I don't want to step on Jail's toes and I also don't want to step on Scott's toes that's my honest answer so the one thing I'd like to see is how we're doing relative to the replacement of the school district I don't know if the guidance department can put together numbers on the U.S. News & World Report with the average use of the U.S. News & World Report or the banking of the schools that this year's class has gotten accepted to compared to previous years we've heard anecdotal evidence that it's going okay that there's some normal anxiety we've also heard that this has been a serious problem I think you should be reaching out directly to the parents and the kids that are applying to college that is they're probably getting the straightest story that is probably the best statistic to be getting that the broadest statistics that may already tell right here we have a lot of switching back getting a direct feedback I'll say I'll let Steven and Jen and Jody respond to that but the changes to the GPA were made those were made because the guidance was reaching out and talked to every single school that kids were applying to and realized this was an issue and made their course direction mainstream and he is a microphone it will be important to really follow up on this of course we've got to get this right and we can really set it back so I hear that of course there are also challenges in every other high school of the state they also should be doing this but this should be done on a statewide level unfortunately we're having to do it publicly over to Steven I have a topic we're providing long-term reports to the board about our process right before break we sent out a note to the fans as well just to say what we were the only decision to make here but we'll be doing it more quickly so I want to make sure