 They have given me very very insipid topic the future of you know, new journalism, I mean new channels, so The earlier debate was far more interesting and there are several questions, which I could have also responded to but You know, I have to speak about the television new channels, so in my view As that Mr. Alok Mita had also rightly pointed out earlier because I saw one tweet That in India there is a scope for everyone With the new channels TV new channels or print media or digital media Everybody has got its own space because a country of 130 crore people. There's no dearth of people no dearth of readers no dearth of viewers and You can easily accommodate yourself amongst the masses So that's one thing which is very encouraging as far as Indian media industry is concerned You can grow there's enough scope I mean on rocks team has provided me data if I read the data and That's based on the study by KPMG So what they are suggesting that the television new channels market is going to grow by 14 percent and Followed by print media whose growth is grown is going to be around 9% and Digital media they have kept it at number three, but here I've got some apprehension My point of view is different. I think the digital media is growing very fast though in terms of Monetization The digital media platforms are not able to succeed to that level but their growth is tremendous and Every new channel is now paying lots of attention Actually emphasizing on digital media department. I'm told one of the Television group is fetching around hundred crores revenue a year from digital media So that pie of revenue is enhancing day by day So and it has got tremendous reach also With digital media you can reach out to the whole world to the Indian diaspora to other citizens of the world While if you've got a new channel in India, you are confined to only Indian viewers or NRIs max But with digital media you can reach out to anyone so that's one area the only problem with digital media, which I understand And everybody would agree here is that they There is no accountability Anybody can write anything against anyone and get away That's something which is very wrong And there is no responsibility if I insult you humiliate you There's nothing which can be done against you and I tried to discover from cyber laws and all that The the major platforms worldwide. They say unless there is a court order You can't do anything so first you go to the court Indian courts You know, how do they function and how anybody can go to the court every day and how they will get the order It will take years to take one order against Someone so it's very difficult. So something must be done Cyber laws had been framed during my government itself earlier Pramod Mahajan had taken an initiative in the at the outset But he couldn't succeed after that, you know, Manmohan Singh government had brought cyber laws I think this government is going to further strengthen, but the moment they do something obviously there will be chorus That freedom of speech is being Cubbed that's true. Also. So they like government any government will have to find a middle path by which The accountability can also be fixed at the same time freedom of expression is also intact So that should be done It's a if you go by Indian television industry Indian media industry currently is about 19.60 billion dollars and it's likely to grow up to 37 billion dollars by 2021 is huge and if Responsibility accountability credibility Is not seeded into it then it will be then the major problem would be as All the earlier panelists pointed out that people would start losing faith and out of this major Revenues coming from entertainment industry Entertainment industry is huge The only part is that the distribution Distribution is a major problem for broadcasters. There are some broadcasters they own Distribution platforms also. There are some broadcasters who don't own distribution platforms. That's a major challenge but there's a risk of technology every Two or three years technology is changing who knows tomorrow all these MSOs digital These you know DTS platforms They are reduced to zero and some Geotype for any other type Platform can capture the whole distribution. So this technology is a big risk in their case So what I think I mean, they are also Government will have to step in certain, you know, I mean departments who are working constantly that everybody's interests are protected And nobody gets killed in this change of technology Overseas what I've discovered that you make The broadcasters they make lots of revenue out of distribution But in India the model has been is completely flawed broadcasters are Bound to pay to the distributors and their major expenditure is to spend on distribution So they hardly make profits if they don't make profits then they are running for TRPs and In order to get TRPs They willing to cross our Lakshman Rekha's that's how this shouting brigades and shouting anchors and everything is being Told about them Why they are shouting why they are you know showing something playing with the gallery just and something is being you know Unnecessary blown out of proportion. Why? Just because they want to get more ratings So rating is many one thing which is driving them to to this situation and That they are and because of that The credibility question arises as Sanjaja Sadden is Observations so credibility of media is at stake because of this this rating things What Arnab wants to get Arnab also wants to attract ratings and There's a war of times now and Republic for ratings only They so and the same scenario is in Hindi channels also. They also want ratings so ratings is ratings TRPs are The biggest culprit as far as a growth of the television industry is concerned So that question is also to be addressed by all of you the television viewers the stakeholders all stakeholders for that matter Not only government so that issue also to be taken up and if the credibility goes down Then obviously the ratings will go down people will stop watching television and Then they will go back to the print media and I mean alok is here. He has been all through in print media and he knows that media very well. They are they are were certain, you know ethics Print media always followed ethics. I still remember because I was in print media also as well as television In a press conference of 200 journalists if a leader used to tell something Something very sensational and still used to say that this is off the record. Nobody used to publish it Can you do it with television today? Private conversations are being quoted. So there is see-chain massive change as far as the coverage of the Media is concerned those days are gone When if a person used to say this is off the record, nobody used to publish in the central hall of the parliament There was Accepted rule it was not imposed by the speaker of loksabar anyone that whatever is Talked or Transjected between two three persons in central all cannot be reported and nobody used to report there because ministers used to They are a position leaders used to sit there. They used to talk lot many things, but it never got reported That kind of ethics were there Today where are those ethics? We are promoting a sting journalism. What is sting journalism? Leave a part this of this is off the record or central Example which I have given sting generally something that you don't know who are you talking to what he's going to I Spread later on That's the major problem So every politician every bureaucrat everybody who's who's something who celebrity is very scared of talking to anyone Then the question of privacy emerges Individuals privacy by Supreme Court has come down heavily The question of privacy question of credibility Why all things are all these things are cropping up Because of today's environment So I think this is high time because you people are there are lot many students of Jallajam here lot many people who have got were stakeholders as far as Indian media is concerned These questions are being posed to them They have left to shoulder the responsibility You can keep the responsibility If the snake goes away then nothing will be left The risk of the breath so that's why it's very important So the name is taken I don't want to take the name Our own personal relations are the best of our relations but there is Orago said that Anup Goswami Ask such a good person outside the camera Then what happens to the camera The dialogue of Shah Rukh Khan that you have to read and speak Why does it happen? Because there is a need for ratings and TRP Then Gradually There are political leanings I was also a journalist I was a journalist for 20 years I also had relations with many people I had relations with Raju Gandhi I had relations with Kharkhand I had relations with Atalwari Bachmi I had relations with Raju Ji We all used to come to our homes But two types of journalists have come to this date One Being a journalist Work like a politician And the one who has chosen Or not If we Some politician likes Some politician likes You will leave the journalist He will go with him He will come to politics I think the other way is better I too had this So I said we will never do While being a journalist From the top We will feed the journalist Because he has cheated with the viewers With the readers So if you want to come Then you can come to politics Then there are the viewers and the readers He will know that you are a political party That is why you have these views Then he can take his own judgment This is a big problem There is a huge number of people Who are journalists from the top Who are journalists from the top And politicians from the top There are many names There are a few names Everyone knows They are on every side They are not on one side So what is this That you Are cheating Your viewers You are cheating your party You are cheating your party You used to be a person I will tell you one thing If you are a political journalist Then you become half a politician You yourself Because if you stay with them Then there will be relations But Your future is this That while staying with them While staying with them Save yourself Your own profession Your own ideology Your own Your own religion Your responsibility Like a bureaucrat Why does he have a steel frame That he has political passes But he has to do The same rules, regulations And system Political pressure It will take one week and then it will not That is why he has a steel frame Nowadays steel frame is going on That is the work of a journalist He has to stay in the same sea But even after that When you are writing Or when you are Storying Then you will have no effect on him But he is not That line is very Completely blurred That is the problem That is why the seminar is going on That is why he had to talk That he did not tell Mr. Alok said that it is the right thing He used to have a lot of pressure But today Today To put pressure You do not have to go to the government The boss himself is coming To put pressure on us We all are standing here You do the order Today it has become upside down The government is not even saying That you do this We ourselves are coming That you do the order What are you writing Because when he goes to the office When he goes to the office Then the importance of that Is not taken Between the boss and the editor Who is the close He is the close He knows that The close of him How to bring him Into this Bring him into your company He is being hired Because of the proximity Of the important people So this is the problem Mr. Alok was right He used to be the first But then there used to be some news Now it is upside down You do the order yourself Order We are ready I will connect this To the crisis of credibility The crisis of credibility The crisis of credibility Because the media Expanded a lot Earlier there were hundreds of letters Now there are thousands of letters Earlier I remember I used to do an interview Rubru I used to say Do me a big deal I will not take the name of a big deal He kept telling me for 6 months He used to come to our office Everyone used to say that Today he is on a very big path And then we used to decide What should we do today? There are problems There are small leaders Who should be interviewed Who should not be There are 50 requests Means The success of the letter Is that it is brought to the interview Everything is upside down What I am saying today It is upside down It is upside down Earlier Now they are in demand Means Now they are in demand Competition is this much See this is the program Every year Every annual Conclave Never before Guest coordinator There was no post That you have to appoint Guest coordinator Whose job is to bring the guest On your channel What happened today Guest coordinators Whose job is To lobby To pursue And bring Good guests to your channel And in that The good guests Who speak well They start asking for money So now on the channel To invite in panel discussion They used to say Now you have to pay The money You can't invite a cricketer And earlier When you were there Mr. Badwani The captain of the India team He used to go after the journalists To print my interview This happened in the film industry First The journalists used to hold The growing star In the film industry How do we keep it up To get the film fair To get my intro To come here What is it today That you are being pushed And pushed The crowd followed Why did the film start Because The media personnel Was hit by the crowd They got hurt They were hit by the crowd One, two, three hundred people Were hit by the crowd So you have to answer The questions How do we keep our pride And pride How do we keep our pride And pride How do we keep our pride And pride And the journalists Who want to be the journalists Then there is a big disparity In the print media Look at the journalists Look at the electronic media Look at the journalists Like Jamin Asman Like a Supreme Court Like a Jiladalad No, no For two years The journalist came to the television He called himself a senior For twenty years The journalists of print media He was not able to call himself a senior That's why all the people who are capable of doing television are switching over. They are leaving print by day and joining television. These are the aberrations of the media which I am trying to point out. So you need to address those issues. We have to think about it. This is a good idea that there has to be self-regulation by media itself. But regulation for television only? Press? Council of India. Alokji was also a member. I was also a member. But press council of India is nothing. It hasn't got any teeth. They can't do anything. Then there was a regulation body appointed by the media itself. Television regulatory body. That also didn't serve the purpose. No one heard about it. And there is no regulatory body of digital media. No one can do anything. So I think this is a chance for all of us to think about it. We will have to think about it. We will have to save ourselves. If you have any questions, you can ask us whatever you want to say. Don't ask questions. We will have a ten minute one on one with Mr. Anurag Batra, chairman and editor-in-chief.