 On the breakfast, we take a look at Nigeria's security challenges with terrorism, a weak police force, and the government still planning to end insurgency before 2023. Also, as South Africa and the world says, final goodbyes to anti-apartheid hero Desmond Tutu, who would be speaking with those on ground. And don't forget, we also would be looking through today's newspapers and analyzing the biggest stories of the day. Good morning. Thanks for joining us on the breakfast on Plus TV Africa. I am Osaugi Ogbon. And I am Massive Ogbon. It's good to have you join us this morning. That's about 48 hours until the new year. Today's the 29th? No, today's the 30th. Okay. Oh, 24 hours until the new year. And so, of course, it's a countdown mentally until we see 2022. Glad that you have stayed with us all through this year 2021. Of course, we always kick off the conversations with our top trending stories. And this morning, we're starting with not very, very happy news. And that's mostly because there are still more cases of thieves and robbers and whatever other name similar to that, dressed in police uniforms, moving across Nigeria. Of course, with two major stories that came out in the last 48 hours, one of them in Abuja, where a young man, of course, complained on social media that his brother, of course, himself, were both similarly abducted by men of the Nigerian police force, taken to a far away location on the outskirts of Abuja and forced to transfer 500,000 nair from his account into a police officer's account. And of course, he shared a very, very, very scary story of his experience and how he was accused of being an internet fraud accused of being a terrorist and whatnot and was forced to transfer 500,000 nair into their account. Of course, he was also accused of being an IPOB member or an ESN member. And of course, you know, that was not even shocking enough. In integral state, a video also was posted by a young man who was being taken in a police vehicle to a POS or an ATM machine to withdraw funds for the police officers. And in that video, you can hear them asking if the funds have been transferred and if the payment has been made and also threatening the young man. And so these are, I hope that we can also quickly share that video clip with you, very embarrassing, seeing that these are men of the Nigerian police force in different states in the country. And so this simply tells us that a lot actually nothing has changed with regards police reforms and fixing the cancer that is called the Nigerian police force. And ironically, it's just really sad that you find out that the slogan for the Nigerian police is police is your friend, which is not the case because if someone is your friend, I'm sure they don't treat you not sure they never treat you that way. They never be hostile to you. They never even if you have some kind of dispute, I'm sure there's always a way to resolve all of the conflict. Well, whoever says they are your friend. So it's just, it's just, you know, walls apart. I mean, it's just really, really funny that you have to have that as, you know, a slogan and then the attitude, there's no match with it. Well, you know, the issue of extortion continues every day and every other time, and it's really, really worrisome and very sad. And so the extortion, the harassment, you know, in most cases, you know, people have been killed and shot, just killed for no reason. Now, it just worries me in a sense that I mean, I think recently you had the DDS, DCP, that's the Deputy Police Commissioner, Basia, who actually said that Nigerians should not urge Nigerians not to allow police officers who are not, I mean, who don't have warrant to go ahead to search them, you know, with phones and all of that. Despite the fact that, yes, it's okay to search on the grounds that there's suspicion and arrest and detain and even shoot. But in most cases, I mean, you also want to look at, you know, the Nigerian criminal code or criminal law that does not desist that, you know, killing when you kill someone. I mean, when you shoot someone for no reason without, you know, an order, it's a mother. So, but I'm just really worried and I'm asking myself, what is the Police Service Commission doing? Because that's, you know, part of the police body that's responsible for, you know, issuing disciplinary actions and when you talk about discipline, because every institution and everybody should have some of, you know, some form of correcting itself of all of the ills and all of that. So in all of this, I'm still asking what the Police Service Commission has been doing with the brutality of Nigerians across board. And these things are not, you know, these things are not in the secret. These things are in the open in the sense that you constantly see people take up to, you know, social media. Thank God for technology and thank God for smartphones and, you know, thank God to... The answer to, you know, your question is absolutely nothing in big bold capital letters, you know, because if you had a Police Service Commission, if you had a police force that was issuing disciplinary measures against Aaron police officers, the rest of them will actually, you know, sit up and behave better. And it also, for these things that we're talking about this moment, also tell me that absolutely nothing once again in big bold capital letters has changed with regards to police reforms and, you know, having a better Nigerian police force. No matter how many times you change the Inspector General of Police, no matter how many times they give out new orders to the men of the force, no matter how many times the President also gives new orders, absolutely nothing has changed. And I've said it before and I said it yesterday again that Nigerian police force is a cancer and it's one of the things that I would declare as a cancer in the Nigerian, you know, system itself that needs to be completely cut off. It's not, you cannot reform a system like this. So, let's take a look at that, you know, let's take a look at that video and I'm sure that we're able to, you know, even get the audio because there's some sound to it. Take a look at what happened. Go straight, go draw this one, leave this man, I'll make you go. No, not the go. Well, these are policemen that are paid, you know, with Nigerian taxpayers' money, they, of course, you know, wear that uniform every day to protect and to serve. But, you know, they eventually turn out to be the thing that, you know, Nigerians need to be protected from. I understand that, you know, the special anti-rubbery squad has, you know, been suspended and is currently, you know, not existent. But the brutality and the extortion and the corruption still exist and is still there deep into the soul of the Nigerian police force and DCP, ASP, KKP, IPP, you know, whatever positions that they hold, IG, AIG, they cannot tell Nigerians that they're not aware of how bad this is and the fact that it is happening. Nobody is going to buy that because they are, you know, and I would say they are very much aware that this is, these are the things that their men are doing. The man who lost 500,000 yards to the police, hopefully he gets his money back. But if there's no... You think he gets his money back? I don't know. Because, you know, in all of the experimentation, I follow Solomon Bucci, you know, a lot, because he's very vocal. The point is, and really sad to him, because when I was reading that particular story, he talked about the fact that he had 617,000 yards. So, 500 has been taken from him. Well, hopefully... Well, how would he get the money back? Because first of all, he wasn't able to capture, you know, names, tags, and what have you... Well, if transfers were done, then, you know, those bank accounts can be traced. It wasn't cash. So, if it was a transfer, then those bank accounts can be traced. So, hopefully, once again, he gets his money, you know, his money back. I'm expecting that police will come out and say those are the men of the police force. They are armed men with guns and what not, as a, you know, defense, you know, for, you know, these men. But once again, because we need to go. Once again, the Nigerian police force itself in its entirety, except for men. Like, and sadly, we have men like Tunji Jisoo, you know, who have been exceptional with their work in the Nigerian police. Among the orders. Yeah, among the orders, you know, but I can't name five, you know. But, you know, because we have men like that, I wouldn't push him, you know, into that crowd. But sadly, the whole of Nigerian police force is, for me, a complete cancer. And we cannot simply reform the... But what would you say it's a complete cancer? You know, you know how it can be with cancer? It's usually not there. The remedy is always almost difficult. And in most cases, you find out that, you know, those persons actually lost their life. Well, an investigative committee has been set up, you know, just like others have been set up in the past, but no committee will be able to fix what is going on in the Nigerian police force. No matter how many committees you set up, nine of them weekly. And subcommittees and, you know, other committees will investigate the committees and to interrogate what you find. And the fact that there's going to be an upward review, because, you know, with that, the president is expecting that it would also translate in the discharge of DTs and maybe behavior as well. Well, we need to move something else. It's a really, really sad way to start the program this morning, but, you know, I'm hoping that there's other good stories. And that's what comes up next to Nigerian professors in the University of Elonging, which is our next uptrending story, have, of course, been nominated as some of the best scientists in the world. They were nominated among 180,000 orders, amongst millions of scientists that were, you know, looked through by a group called the Elsevier BV. They are an academic publishing company at Stanford University and the University in the United States of America. I almost said University of America. In the United States of America. They are Professor Kayo De Oyewumi and Musa Yakubu, both of the University of Elonging. So congratulations to them. It is good news, I believe, for Nigeria's education sector and for these two phenomenal, you know, individuals. You know, it really does still, you know, remind us that there is a lot of brilliance and there's a lot of value that, you know, persons in the system have. You know, the system itself may not be its best, but it doesn't take away the fact that there's still some, you know, and a lot of brilliance amongst people in healthcare, in tech, in education, in every sector in Nigeria. And so we're celebrating this moment in Kayo De Oyewumi, Professor and also Professor Musa Yakubu, both of the University of Elonging. Not surprising for me at all. Like I always say that we have lots of talented people. Nigerians are awesome. I mean, I just hope and wish that we had a system that worked that supports, you know, the people, then would definitely be conquering the world. Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, you can also see it with the amount of, when we talk about brain drain, when the country complains about brain drain and the amount of doctors and nurses and professionals that are leaving Nigeria in droves, you know, these persons, you know, would legitimately be able to contribute. And you know the thing that really worries me is the fact that we don't even pay attention to, you know, to manpower and, you know, the development of manpower in our society because it's very key. As much as we would talk about yesterday when we talked about the health sector and we say, if you don't have a, you know, population that's very healthy, then you're likely to have a population that is not very productive. And so you also want to begin to ask yourself at this point in time the number of persons that we see. Nigerians are awesome people. I mean, everywhere we show up. That's why I feel like, you know, a lot of people who get to leave the shores of this country will excel in different spheres, including academics. I mean, several professors, I would, you know, really mention a lot of them, you know, way back in my university. And like we always say, we wish, and we hope that we had a system that would also support this enabling environment because all of these persons would not leave. But the fact that we don't pay attention to the manpower, because it's the manpower, productivity and creativity is reducing by the day. And so that's not even a concern. And even the fact that you even, because at the end of the day, you find that some of these developed countries invest a lot in human capital development because they understand that these persons contribute to the productivity. So for all the things that get to happen, you know, in different parts of the world, spirits don't make them happen. They're human beings. And so if we constantly invest in their development and, you know, encouraging all of that, human capital development has never been a thing for us. And I don't see us as paying attention because for every all of this, I mean, let's even link it back to the fact that you have, you know, police brutality and extortion. Then you have a lot of Nigerian. When you see all of that, they say, I hate this country. I don't want to be here. Oh, this country, you know, it's just a dream killer. It kills everything. It kills everyone. And then they want to move away. So just make the environment conducive, provide the necessary, you know, basic infrastructure, nobody's asking you to give them money. For real, I don't even think Nigerians are saying give us handouts. Don't give us $5,000. Just make everything okay. Let's have a police force that's friendly, that treats people with respect. And, you know, understanding that these persons are humans in the course of discharging their duty. So it's quite worrisome. The environment is very toxic. And that's why you constantly have all of that movement. Or once again, you know, there is a lot of brilliance. There's a lot of, you know, exceptionalism, you know, amongst Nigerian professionals. And like Marcia said, you know, Nigeria's Nigerians just need a more conducive environment to excel. And that's the reason a lot of them are leaving Nigerian droves to find that environment that they can excel. You know, and be the complete best, you know, and reach the complete, you know, peak of their abilities. But once again, you know, we'll say congratulations to these two persons who've been able to excel, even in the conditions that they found themselves, you know, here in Nigeria. Professor once again, Kayode Oyewumi and Professor Musaia Kuba, both of the University of Elorim. To our next top trend in the story, a writer shared her journey, her marital journey, and just, you know, a little bit of it, but not a very, very happy story. She, of course, talked about a medical condition that she has been dealing with called vaginismus. It's a medical condition where the vaginal muscles clench tightly and, you know, have severe or complete fear of some or all sorts of penetration. And it was, you know, a very interesting read, you know, starting from where she shared that she and her partner, before they got married, had, you know, been abstinent from sexual activity for almost three years before they eventually got married. And then after getting married, she discovered that she had, right from her wedding night, when it was time to consummate the wedding, she realized that, you know, she had vaginismus. And, you know, they continued to struggle with it, went to one gynecologist after the other, and, you know, still couldn't find an answer. She even underwent, had to undergo surgery and still couldn't find, you know, answers to it. She ended the story by saying that herself and her husband have figured out that there is many other ways to enjoy sex and marriage that don't necessarily include penetration. But I also quickly point out, why are you swelling? I would also quickly point out, you know, that one of the things that she mentioned was, you know, that the only time that she may have, you know, you know, experienced penetration was when she was sexually abused as a child. And so that may also be one of the reasons that she developed vaginismus and, you know, that trauma of penetration. She shared it, you know, as a way to educate and to inform other women who, you know, might be getting married or, you know, dealing with a similar situation to encourage them, basically, which, you know, I found very interesting. Even if I also felt like it was too much information to put on social media. No, you know, one of the things she actually said was the fact that, I mean, there's no need to be ashamed of what she's not ashamed of. And so let's just not allow her. Don't try to be ashamed of, you know, ashamed of the situation on her behalf because she's shameless already. And, I mean, this is some of the words she actually put out. But, you know, in a society as as, and a society where, like I always say, we're very big on religion. And you know what that means, the fact that abstinence and those who believe in the Bible would say that you need to abstain from, sexual activities until you get married. And to some people, it might sound very exciting. I mean, for me, it was really, really, it was really, really shocking, quite shocking that, you know, this could actually be a case. But one of the things that I love about her story and her stuff is the fact that, you know, she was able to seek, you know, some medical concern thinking that there might really be something really wrong with her. And so it brings us to a point where you want to say there's a contradiction between science and, you know, religion at this point in time. But very, very sad, because she sounded like someone who was going through a lot of pain. I mean, the fact that she anticipated that after the wedding, there's going to be just a beautiful time having, you know, a great time and every other. But also making reference to her experience. And it brings us back to the fact that just within some days back, we talked about people don't move away from, I mean, there's some experiences, some encountered people have. And then they just move away. So yes, there's trauma that could leave you with you for a lifetime. And we cannot, you know, always say, you know, because in the society is this, we constantly want to protect some of these persons who perpetrate all of this act, because in most cases, they are our brothers, they are our fathers, they are our uncles, they are our friends. And so, you know, for the fact that though we don't want to stigmatize, and then we begin to say that the other person involved is probably going through some spiritual issues. So people don't move away. I'm hoping that we get to a point where we have some form of, maybe counseling, some form of therapy that would help people and that we encourage people to speak up and speak out against some of these issues so that they can be free. Well, she didn't necessarily say that that was exactly the reason. But maybe. And I tried to do a little bit of reading yesterday to know what might, you know, cause a vaginismus, you know. And so, yes, it's possible that that's what it is. It's possible. You know, and that's why I mentioned it, you know, and I ensure that I spoke about that part, you know, to point out that, you know, like you said, there's trauma from sexual abuse, you know, that people suffer that may never go away. They might look healthy and look happy and look like they're thriving, but there is certain types of trauma that just would never go away. And this just might be a perfect example, you know, of a situation like that. And so, there shouldn't be, you know, any leniency with people who sexual abuse others. I don't, I don't like... I mean, what if she's very resentful? I mean, what if she's very resentful when her husband, you know, it's about to, I mean, about to engage? And then she constantly... There's different types of trauma. And then she constantly, you know, have to remember what happened to her when she was much younger. And that makes her... Well, I don't want to assume... I'm just saying, I'm just saying that this is just, I mean, there's a possibility that... I don't want to assume what her situation is, you know, but, you know, the key points are that she shared her story. She mentioned sexual abuse as a child, and this is what she's currently dealing with. And she ended by saying that there's other ways that married people can enjoy sexual satisfaction that don't necessarily include penetration. And then, you know, it was just my own personal opinion saying that I felt like there's some type of information that really doesn't need to be out there. It's good to educate. It's good to inform people and to help people who might be suffering. But maybe because I'm a really private person, I'm not trying to... I'm trying to imagine, you know, in a situation like that and then sharing with the world that this is what you and your men and my spouse are dealing with, you know, that nobody asks for information. No, I think that with the social media now, a lot of people really do not understand how far, you know, stuffs can actually travel, right? So some people just feel like, I mean, you're on Facebook, you're on Twitter, you're on Instagram. It's okay to just put up that post and then it just feel like it's just limited to those in their seco, immediate seco, not understanding that, I mean, you have a lot of blogs, you have a lot of people who are monitoring and it can go. I remember the time I made a tweet and someone called me and said, hey, you're one of the blogs and one of the things I asked first was, what did I do? What exactly, you know, is the context or, you know, the content of the report that was put out. So some people would just probably feel like it's just within my space. But it goes beyond your space. It's not impossible. Once you put it out there, it goes everywhere. And once again, it's not shaming her for wanting to be bold enough to share information like that. That's fine. But, you know, I just read it and said to myself, I mean, there's other ways that you can share a story like that. You can say it's a colleague, you can say it's a friend, you can say it's anything. But nobody needs to look at you every other morning. Some of us will figure it out. When it goes to work on Monday morning or look at you when you're working and know that, oh, I mean, there's some information that you want to tell you to know. But you know, you can't. People can all be the same and that's the beauty of life, the fact that people actually are different and some people are just there and they feel like, let's let it out. Let's just let it out. And in some of the things that she said, she talked about not being ashamed of saying what she is and she's saying, hey, don't also be ashamed. When you say I'm not ashamed, it means that someone had tried to shame you about it before. No, she's saying that don't try. No, no, that's not the case because she actually perceived that that would always be, you know, the argument. I mean, some people will come up and say, why you put up all of this information? Why don't you put out all of this information? Just like you're saying. But she's saying, hey, Osar, okay, don't be ashamed on my behalf. I'm already ashamed. I'm not ashamed. Listen, that's why I said, I'm not saying you are ashamed. I'm not saying you are ashamed. If the idea was helping other people, then you can do it, you know, I think that she has a story to ask. But don't you think that this is a lot of revelation? Because I think that it's too much. It's too much. No, no, no, it's okay. But maybe someone somewhere, you know, sometime, I remember someone telling me that some people go through, this is not in the books that I'm not sure it is. I don't know about any theory that actually holds this ball. You know how we can just say that? Don't you think that sometimes you go through stuff so that others could actually learn a lesson from you? So it's more like you're here. Yes, but nobody needs to know and have a picture of what you and your partner are like in the bedroom. That's really what I'm saying. So one thing, you can share the story and say, listen, you can share the story and say that a colleague of yours shared her story with you. But that would be a lie. Yes. And that's fine. A colleague of yours shared a story and this is what she's dealing with and this is the moral of story. The key points for me are sexual abuse and the effects that it could have, you know, much, much later in life. And the fact that yes, you know, letting people know on couples, even if a lot of couples would say no. You know, to the fact that you can have, you know, sexual satisfaction with your spouse for a lifetime without actual penetration. I'm hoping that there is because, you know, probably we need to also read more. She's been to a couple of gynecologists. Maybe there, you know, needs to be questions as to what exactly could be treatment for vaginismus. And if couples who might be dealing with a situation like that can actually get help as time passes. So those are some of the things that people need to also question. Some people just have to go ahead of us and make that mistake and have that experience so that the rest of the world can actually learn. It's not a mistake. I don't think it's a mistake. No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I mean, it's like, some people will probably make some mistakes. I mean, it's like looking at yourself. I'm trying to say that sometimes some experience, some people would have to go through some experience and share it so that some people can learn from it. So you know that cliche or that phrase that they constantly say, you know, experience is the best teacher. Not necessarily anymore. Leveraging on other people's experience, that's just the best teacher. Like not upstanding until you get one. Like engaging in sex? That's what she said. She talked about that and also finding other ways of engaging. Anyways. Well, best of luck to her and her husband. And of course, we wish them luck with the future of their marriage. Looking forward to hearing more stories. They probably have the news very soon. You never can do it. Our final top trend story this morning is in sports. You know, it's good news, I guess. A new manager has been appointed for all the Super Eagles. His name, Jose Pesario, is a former manager of Porto Football Club. And he has, of course, been appointed as a new Super Eagles coach. Well, it's got to be here to talk about more of this. You know, I believe today and of course we'll have an extended discussion about this on Friday. But of course, there's still some criticism. I remember that we spoke about the reason why we still continue to hire foreign coaches when we have a lot of talent here in Nigeria. And there is that. And also, there's people who have also criticized Jose Pesario, mostly because he doesn't necessarily have a record that makes him look like the very best option. He hasn't, you know, coached anywhere that was extremely successful. He hasn't broken any records anywhere. He also hasn't lasted more than a year or two years in every single day. I mean, the last you actually want to check is the fact that, you know, four months into coaching a club has been out. Some people have tagged him as the most sacked, you know, coach. And some people would say that's not a popular name, like you have said. I mean, in the world of coaching. So... I mean, Nigeria was going on wrong, but... No, but it feels like we always, I mean, let's say this. Because recently, I've been very paranoid with the fact that we're too... We're just... We have looked at ourselves less and we have acted, you know, because we have looked at ourselves less, we've constantly acted in that way. The things that we get to do. Right. So even if you were going to... First of all, we have a problem with the fact that we have a lot of talented, I mean, all some experienced persons in Nigeria that will probably use you, you know, coach the people. Like, Wallace Scott will always say, I mean, an average Nigerian can actually coach the superpower. Because we understand, we see the people who understand the talent and then you know what it is. And so it probably should have been an advantage when you have a foreign coach come through. I'm saying it possibly would be, but for what reason would he be? The fact that, you know, we have access to what? X, Y, Z, all of your experiences and all of that. But that's not the case. So it brings me back to the fact that we constantly have treated ourselves as a dumping ground for whatever is not very good. So why do we have to source, you know, for coaches like that? Venezuela. I'm not saying that, you know, he's not had his time, but let's look at that. First of all, we want to look at the age of 1960. Moral of the story for me is that there have to be questions as to why Nigeria always looks to foreign coaches for the job. Which is what? I remember that we've done Stephen Keshi, we've done, you know, Siya Siya at some point, I believe. Okay, that was for a different team. But why do we always look out to foreign coaches for the job? And even when we do, what is the criteria with which we choose these coaches? Do we actually look at their records? Do we look at, you know, what they've done in the past and the qualities that they have? Because once again, for this particular person, Jose Prisario, there's really nothing that you can look to or hold on to and say, you know, this is such a fantastic coach and it will go very, very far with the super ego. So there's something that we may not be aware of that makes them continue to look out for these persons. No, there's something that we're aware of and something that we're aware of is the way we constantly perceive ourselves. We have looked at ourselves as a dumping ground and that's why constantly, you find out that, you know, goods that are substandard are usually dumped here in Africa, in Nigeria. And then we constantly want to, you know, I'm not trying to say he is not up to, but I mean, if you look at the qualification, we have talented persons, we have great players. Why do you have to go, if you want to, let's even assume that, let's even agree with the fact that it's okay to get a foreign coach because we're still arguing with the fact that why don't you use, you know, the experience persons that we have. And now you have to go out, you're going out, you're not even getting the best of the best. So you're just getting, you know, Just anybody? Just anybody. Just you go pick someone from Venezuela to come coach the super egos. Let's see what pants out, you know, for us in January. Oh, well, let's got to definitely share a little bit more with regards to that story. Of course, we're going straight into off the press where we have a quick review of the major stories making headlines across the country this morning and we'll get into that right after this short break. Stay with us.