 Because it's revenue neutral. Yeah. Are there other questions? Oh, Anna. Oh, it's a comment. So I can, I can wait. Unless now is the time for comments. It is. Oh, you said questions. All right. So that's not on you. Just wanted to not go out of turn. When something. It's such an interesting document and, you know, I could, I could read it every day, but I think there's, there's a lot of. There's a lot of specificity around climate action and racial justice. And this is a broad overview. And at the same time, there are some things that get a lot of specificity. And so one of the things that, you know, I know that we've heard a lot about. From our community about folks feeling a little bit like we've lost some of the specificity around climate action and racial justice. In our goals and a bit in our budget too. And there are a couple of areas that I feel. I think that's really important. I think that's really important. I think that's really important. Around climate specifically. So that's just because that's kind of where my brain has been for a while. And because sitting in on ECAC, it's clear that funding needs to be, needs to come through if we're going to meet these goals. So while the general idea of keeping a climate lens and, you know, all things in service of climate action is wonderful. It's a really broad, broad phrase. So there, there are areas that I'd like to see some specificity, including the. And I'm happy to send you my marked up version if that's helpful. And I apologize. I am in the same boat as Alicia. I have Sundays to do my, my counsel things. I don't often get things back to folks early, but. On page seven at the bottom. We're talking about roads and sidewalks are a clear need across town and a high priority for residents. This should be considered a fifth major capital project. We're also aware of future needs and recommendations by various boards and committees. We look to present a capital improvement plan that provides a strategy to meet these high priority needs. And then I would say with this is another spot where I would say with consideration for our climate action goals specifically, including bicycle and pedestrian access. So, you know, there, there are certain places that I feel would benefit from more of the climate action. And I would say specifically, specifically I was looking at this from that climate lens. And I'm happy to send those along. If that's beneficial. It would be yes. Happy to do it, Andy. Could I just also comment when you send them on. The extent, I mean, you can write short, but is this to be achieved. In the next year, you know, so some of that was multiple year changes. So I think we can do, it's a budget guideline. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So just if you could. Sure. Yeah. Thank you for that. If it's possible to send along a word document that's a lot easier for me to do track changes. If that's, if that's possible. I think I only have the PDF. Thank you. I'm sorry. Thank you. Mandy Joe. I have four comments slash questions or requests. The first ones on page four with the paragraph beginning in 2021, we established a reparation stabilization fund. The last sentence of that is says when transfers are made. We hope that we will be able to transfer an amount to the reparation stabilization fund closer to the 205 ceiling. So that we continue to make progress to achieve the sentence that said, according to projections, the projected is about 150. And so I'm curious whether that second, that last sentence is proposing a change in policy that's a change from the council vote from last year, last spring that said we would change, we would transfer, we would try to transfer an amount equal to the revenue, cannabis tax revenue. And this sentence seems to indicate that we're going above and beyond that equal. So are we change is this financial guideline proposing a change in policy. My second comment is on page seven. The last paragraph before section five. That's talking about changes in revenue or deficits. I'd like to see the finance committee added to who gets kept informed if there are changes to revenues or deficits right now it talks about just BCG to be convened. But I think our finance committee should be kept informed to when things like that happen. On page eight, the first paragraph, the one that's continued, the last sentence refers to the need to review the surplus real property disposition policy. And so I think if we're going to put that into this guidance, we should also include a motion that goes along with this to refer that policy to the finance committee for review. Instead of just talking about it in here of, oh, it needs reviewed. Well, let's actually refer it for review. And on page 10, the first full paragraph that talks about advocacy at the state level. I think it's missing from this, but we always seem to get short changed and I'm going to use that word when the state allocates its own pilot money for state owned land in that Hadley gets more money than us for state owned land from the state. This is different than the local. Negotiations. This is the state one. And so I think we should add to that. If it's not in their state level advocacy to redo that formula for those pilot. Allocations. Yeah. Mandy Joe, can you just go back to the. One before that. The page eight surplus real property disposition policy. Top top of the page. The last sentence in the continued paragraph. You know, seems to say that it needs reviewed and so I'm suggesting we should include a motion in our motion sheet when this comes up for vote to refer that proper policy to the finance committee. For review. Okay. I think that's a question that we need is a council. Process question. GOL has taken on reviewing policies. And we'll be handling this one differently. As Paul has pointed out. Some of the corrections in that policy is that it refers to town meeting and select board. So a lot of the revisions are around those issues. And not about the underlying policy question. The question of this. The final decision. On what it is that we would dispose of it for proposal is made to sell a piece of property. Because it's no longer needed. Ultimately, it does require action of council. So we're not going to avoid the. Finance committee or the council. And so some of this cleanup question is really. Who's the most appropriate committee. For that kind of a, of a problem. That we all felt that it was our reaction that we. Basically have a good policy, but it's severely outdated as written because of it was written in the days of the select board. So maybe it's TSO, but if we're not going to take action to actually refer it for review, then I would recommend we delete that sentence. Cause why put it in there. I mean, it says the town council needs to review. If it's, if the town council is not going to then take the action to do so. You either change it to the town manager needs to review or you delete the sentence is what I'm saying. Could we just say refer to an appropriate committee and then let the president decide. There needs to be a motion to refer though. But yeah, I'm asking that the motion be put on. The motion sheet. When we do this. And whatever their appropriate committee is. And I would like an answer to my question about page 4 and the reparations fund and whether or not. The finance committee is proposing a change in policy with respect to that. I'm going to ask a finance committee member Miller, if she would like to respond or if she would like me to respond. We've had a conversation about this. And I think this was sort of Andy's thinking that went into the guidelines based on these projections. And I'm going to ask, I think that you're raising a great point in that we should have a discussion. If that's going to be a trend. That cannabis tax revenue is going to be at 150 or go, you know, below where we had anticipated. I don't know if it for this particular guideline needs to be. Maybe there's some wording that indicates that we're aware of the trend. And we're keeping an eye on that. And then if it occurs again, when we come around to it again, I think as a council, we will want to discuss whether modeling it off of that still is the right. Approach. Yeah, we'll take it back to the finance committee. It's one of the issues to discuss and we'd talk tomorrow. I think that the reason that it's in there for. The guidelines for the year and question is that during that year, the transfer. Proposal. Would need to be made at the appropriate time according to the resolution. And we need to decide whether we should be providing guidelines for the year and question. And we need to decide whether we should be providing guidance to the manager about how to approach that under the circumstances of this year. But I will make sure that's on the agenda for tomorrow. Topics to discuss. Okay. I was wondering if you can give out the reasoning for putting that statement that Jennifer brought up on page six, the town will likely need to forego taking on some new efforts. Unless revenue neutral, you know, related to again, climate action, housing and social justice. Because it's undisturbed. I mean, one, we want to bring that lens of social justice and climate action to all our decisions. And it's understood that, you know, I mean, we're going to come up with specific goals that we want within each of those. And it's understood that, you know, we're only going to do certain things. So why are we singling out these three things? As opposed to, I mean, why do, why is that statement even needed? I don't understand. That the time. I think that the, I think to find it. I mean, it can come out. But in the end, the finance committee was trying to make a point to the community as well as to the town manager. That hard decisions. Are required. And. It was. Also recognized as I said a moment ago. These are areas of major investment. And they are going to call for the hardest decisions to have to be made. We didn't feel. That it was our role to duck that hard question. But we wanted to pass it on. To the council as a whole. So I'm glad that it's come up. But, but I. It is still a hard issue that you get that we need to be thinking about. Is we're setting limits. And I think that the other thing that's very implicit in this, and I will point it out. Very clearly. Is that. We did also. Propose in the guidelines that we value. All of the services that we can provide in the staff. And that. That in and of itself. Essentially takes up what increase. We foresee in the year ahead. And. I think it's. Important to consider. Both of these questions. As to whether you feel that they're appropriate in the end. You know, we did the drafting. To get issues on the table. But. It's the. Council with the. Guidelines belong to not. Committee. Do you want to take. Comments on just this one topic. Lynn. Or. Sure. Because I just want to follow up. Okay. Kathy, go ahead. I actually agree that. Calling them out. You could take them out of the sentence. And it still works. If we took major investments because we just talked about community fields. As a multi year. Process. And I could add a couple other things too. So I think the sentence works without calling out. A specific set. The. Because the goals are even the climate action goals that have been sent to us. Weren't. Do everything in 2024. So when we talk about it tomorrow, I could see that the sentence will read fine without. Right. Listing three. Yeah. Any other comments on this particular one. I have a show. Yeah. Jennifer, go ahead. Jennifer, go ahead. Jennifer, go ahead. Yeah. No, just to concur. I think that it. By leaving the sentence, it sounds like we don't prioritize them as, as much as other budget. Areas. But I also do want to ask. So I had a list of items that. You know, I wanted to include or suggest being included in town manager goals. But. Should I also send that to the finance committee? No. That goes to the committee. You're on. Jennifer. Thank you. Financial implications. Yes. Yeah. Okay. I understand. Yeah. Jennifer. If they have financial implications. Yes. Okay. Michelle. So back to page six. I'm seeing it a little bit differently than I think. Other counselors. Climate action, housing and social justice are commitments that we've made. They're already in the town manager goals. And they do require a multi-year and multi-revenue strategy. However, I think that's different from the town, likely needing to forego taking on new efforts. So I'm not. Understanding why those are in the same paragraph. And when we're talking about fields. That's something new that is a new effort. And it needs to be explored further. About how we might proceed to take it on. But with respect to housing, social justice and climate action, these are goals that we've. Already committed to. That we've already committed resources to. And I think they should be separated from any commentary about needing to forego taking new efforts on, because the way that I read that is. And maybe this is how it was meant. Is. That new efforts within those goals. And I think that's a good point. I think we're talking about that as well. I think that's my point. I think that's something that's been read that is. And maybe this is how it was meant. Is that new efforts within those buckets of climate action, housing and social justice, if that's not what was meant. If we're truly talking about. Brand new initiatives. Then I think those should be separated as to not confuse that. Okay. I understand that we don't want to focus just on the paraeducators salaries but could we is that something that we could put in here would it be in the town manager goals regarding looking at the salary level especially for entry level and yes and across the board maybe so not just paraeducators but all town staff there is a reference in here to a salary review or maybe that's in the town manager there's a reference in the town manager goals for that exactly it's also in here there's it's also referenced um shallony yeah i'm sorry i didn't read the whole thing very carefully so what i read was um that we are not doing that but are we doing a study or something to look at is that mentioned here where is it uh there was um sorry they're you're so ready um no it's good there was uh i believe i'm gonna look to kathy there was in the capital budget last year we had a whole big debate about yeah okay i'm gonna go forth then uh and in jcpc last year we approved in the capital budget funding for a salary study um your the specificity about paraeducators would be different um that's it's not specific it should i believe that school staff would be covered within town a town salary study nope they're not because that's union negotiation and done by the schools so that would be why i don't think it's appropriate for us to reference paraeducators specifically but town staff generally not including school staff would be covered by the salaries um it's called something different than salary study uh but wage study there we go that was approved in the last uh capital budget shon you had your hand up yeah i was just gonna say that there was a wage study approved but it wouldn't cover the schools and and i don't know if anybody's asked the schools may have already done their own wage study of some sort that really falls to the school committee and the school staff right shall any anything else are there other comments uh finance committee meets at three o'clock tomorrow afternoon so if you have comments uh andy could send word documents to people um maybe right now while we're sitting here and um then you can have any comments to us by then we're also meeting again next week as well but this will not come back to the council again until the 19th pan maroney yeah could uh could that word documents just be put in the packet yeah or we'll just email it to every or send it to everyone yeah that's what we generally do a thing that might be able to do that for us because she has the word document good idea all right any other comments on this all right seeing none then we're going to move on to the final draft of the town manager evaluation and uh this was on my list and i first of all discovered way back in early november a um skewed set of ratings and so i had to correct that that was in the packet um back in november i also therefore had to do a recalculation and those changes were in but they were in this packet as well and then i um did offer all counselors the opportunity to send me uh suggested observations changes recommendations etc and i took all of that and i recrafted the memo so what you have before you is um my proposed final uh draft of the town manager evaluation and kathy i i maybe i'll put it in motion to adopt the 2000 23 town manager performance evaluation as presented second kathy well i would second it too and i just want to make a really quick comment that i thought you did a terrific job um i i know i sent in sort of uh some were just line edits and some were some substantive it ended a few others but i think it reads better and it captures i went back and read all 13 of our comments and it copped to me it captured the big things that were flagged um and since all of our individual comments are also there thank you thank you for that effort blend you're welcome it it's one of those bizarre things where nobody can give me input on it until it's a public document and i totally welcome a good thorough reads of it anna i echo what kathy was saying i i mean i think i handed you 28 pages from myself so i i know that uh this was a beast and i think something that i uh i appreciate the summary that you did and i think something that might be beneficial for us in the future is as we consider what questions we're asking not every area had um not every area in the summary included things that we had noted as room for improvement or room for growth um and i i think it might be beneficial for us to really think through this again not as they're not critiques and they're not personal they're things that we believe are areas for um for change and that really also sets us up going into the goal setting process so i think as we think about the format that this takes um open-ended questions are lovely and a little bit of guidance in terms of what did you how did you see the town manager meet these and then how did what remains left or what remains as an area of growth might be beneficial and also then lead to more consistency in the evaluation itself so general comment not about this uh summary and one of the debates has always been um are the areas for growth what really gets reflected then in the goals for the coming year and um i've tried to not incorporate too much foreshadowing of that but a little might help yeah i mean if it's a performance evaluation it really can't only include just the rosy things even though there are many many rosy things about paul okay good and yes you did hand me 18 pages and it was broken down into everybody saw it nobody no worry about it you're welcome everyone for my 18 pages that's fine dorothy um i just want to applaud the hard work of all the counselors particularly as shown tonight the hard work and the intelligence and i also want to applaud the indefatigable uh town council president lin greesmer thank you thank you so are there any other questions or comments changes i just like let's move on i'm sorry i don't do that well thank you very much dorothy i appreciate that and kathy and uh and all of you um okay uh we're up to i think kathy shane to do it this is the vote oh to adopt it who was and then and then i get to send it to paul and say thanks for your great work you know yes the vote is that we approve this memo to adopt the 2023 town make your performance evaluation as presented yes okay andy steinberg hi jennifer top yes lisha walker yes uh shalini belmiln yes uh pat danjlis anna debon goth here i lin greesmer's i mandy johannicky i anika lopes i i michelle miller i pam rooney i'm sorry dorthy dorothy dorthy pam yeah pam rooney hi it's unanimous all right um we are good that's okay no all right well okay committee reports crc mandy joh none okay elementary school building kathy just quickly we're meeting this friday and this will be when we are looking over the specs that we're sending to the cost estimators to do the new estimates so it won't be a fun meeting to watch the only other thing i wanted to report is that i did do a presentation for jennifer and dorthy's district and we have some to rip so i am i would love to do them at all the district meetings and i would also like to do them soon but then again once we've had some community forums so when we get further along but it was um it works well because the designers are giving us motion pictures that bring the school to life what are you up to on sunday yeah i think i i think it would be good if we make a commitment as a council that we have a set of district meetings in a time period and with some standard things of the school being one of them and so maybe in you know february march would be the time period that we want to do that we want to really garner the excitement about the school the other suggestion and i think we could figure out you know that the the moving pictures allow me just to chat as i'm showing something but i could do a script so people could take it out to the community you know it wouldn't be dependent on any person so we could do it in the district meetings but then we could take it to a larger apartment complex you know just to a broader group i also want to mention that you've been to the district two meeting too right pat she's been to the district two meeting with the presentation um okay uh andy finance committee so meeting tomorrow three at three o'clock um the original purpose was to go over the comments tonight on the guidelines but we have a couple of major issues that are also on the agenda so i'll just mention what they are one is the sewer regulations the tso worked through there was one piece that had to go back to the finance committee and we're meeting with uh gilford and amy ursecki tomorrow to talk about it and that is um the financial consequences of the proposal to have the enterprise fund take responsibility for repairs to sewer lines as they go from the property line to the sewer main which was the same issue that we discussed with water when we discussed water um amy in gilford came up with um very specific information about what it is that it would cost the the enterprise fund to do that and how it would affect rates so that's what the subject that is and the other one is that we were referred a real estate transfer fee proposal and um we need to begin our discussion about that and uh i've notified the two cosponsors and uh one of the things that is on my mind and i we will discuss it tomorrow with cosponsors who i think will be able to be present for that portion is that um it was really initially i think step one would be that the council requests special legislation and uh so having talked with mendian another subject about legislation this is a time where we would have to make that motion so that they could at least even if we don't agree on exact language um she needs to get a placeholder file and so there is at least a little bit of time urgency with that so um but anyway that's tomorrow's meeting okay we can't wait hey listen they used to be at 8 30 in the morning on Tuesdays thanks shod they're not then um michelle gel nothing jones library anika uh so i will need to refer to paul if that is okay because i was not able to attend the last paul no not much wait there was a meeting but there were no real actions taken those are the kind of reports we like thank you um the liais and uh tso anika nothing there we're postponed until uh 15th next week any liaison reports can i just make a quick announcement i two seconds hra decided today that they're having their next listening session on january 11th it will be all virtual from 6 30 to 8 30 and it will also include um some education like an educational component before opening up for listening great let's make sure we notice that on agendas so we start letting people know all right uh sorry i'm so sorry uh it was referenced several times today the the goals that ecac had prioritized i had sent them to um the chair vice chair and uh special person of gol i don't know what you are so the person who's been working on the goals there we go um but i'm happy to share those with the full council and um yeah would you please send them to the finance committee also yeah because they may have financial absolutely i did give them a cursory grant glance but yes okay uh we have no uh minutes to approve paul any highlights from the town manager's report he's trying to save us time towns town council comments i owe you a two month report guess what i've been busy but i also just want to mention to you that um actually several meetings have been counts cancelled in postponed so for example we didn't meet with mendian joe last this last week i mean this last month we also didn't have the amherst media meeting this last month so it's not like there was exciting stuff to tell you anyway uh on the future agenda items just note that next week as i know two weeks from now i i'm not putting this on the 12th don't worry about it um we do have an annual discussion about the role of the town council president and the vice president as a preliminary to the election of the president and vice president on january 9th 2023 um are there any other council comments at this point because we are going to go into executive session no yes no maybe yes um it's a future agenda item i just want to correct that um residential rental bylaw will not be ready for january um it'll be february 6th at the earliest and i suspect it will be the first march meeting in all likelihood okay February 6th or march 6th uh dorthy just want to remind my fellow town counselors to make their specific plans for the MMA conference in january um and to uh go check the website look at the workshops and there's one on PFAS by the way um which is a great interest um so um i hope to see you all there i i'm hoping is very much that we can stay in person and we can have a great conference that's it would be nice wouldn't it we haven't for the last what two years i guess uh jennifer it just a question i guess following up on what alisha alisha had asked earlier which is if we doesn't have to be the next meeting or two but could could get some guidelines on what so we have some like objective kind of definition of what constitutes new information yep okay um just a minute okay um so with that i'm going to move to my motions um so i'm moving to convene an executive session for the following purpose um in accordance to mass general law chapter 30a paragraph 21a2 to conduct a strategy session in preparation for negotiations with non-union personnel specifically town manager paul bachman and in accordance with mass general law chapter 30a paragraph 21a2 to conduct contract negotiations with non-union personnel town manager paul bachman so don't go way too far paul but we'll see you in a moment um we are i'll i'll second but are we removing two from this executive session there were four on the list um we're not going to be dealing with a six purchase exchange values two parcels of real property are we and a seven executive minutes are we going to approve minutes okay in accordance with mass general law chapter 30a s 21a7 to approve the executive session minutes of may 16th 2022 is there a second sorry one more thing before that means we will not reconvene in open session needs to be added thank you so for all of you that are waiting breathlessly in the audience we won't be back uh i'm sorry if we're getting a little slapstick it's you know it's just okay so i'll second it now that i've changed all right uh now that we've gotten it all straight now um kathy shane yes um andy steinberg yep uh jennifer tov yes alisha walker yes shallony paul milman yes patty angeles hi anna devin goth here hi ling bries mason i manager hannity hi anika lopes hi michelle miller hi dorthy pam yeah pam rooney hi and it's unanimous okay we're going to get a new web a new connection so you'll log off of this one and go to the new one