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This is Dare to Dream Debbie Daschinger and I've got a guest here who was last on the show in 2014 So certainly about time to have him back and find out what's going on in his life I've got Brian Seth Hearst here and he is the intuitive who bridges the gap with storytelling As well as entertaining in the metaphysical world I really think that's a pretty yummy space to be in and I find them all very complimentary Especially I have to say never considered this Especially considering that I came from entertainment myself that the majority yeah, of course The majority of my life was spent on that side of the camera as an actress and a singer theater and TV and film and so forth and Hey, when it came time as I was fully an adult a full-blown adult when something changed inside me And that was a really shocking experience because from the time Really that I even have any memory of time or being this that's all I ever wanted And all I ever did and what I went to summer stock for what I went to USC performing arts for Where how I traveled the world doing and I was that professionally for a long time so for me too there is this really perfect blend of who I was and Who I really feel the universe has meant me to be So here I be That I actually started out as an actor coming out of college and and I I studied with an amazing acting teacher Michael Howard and I Had a casting director a movie casting director Who became a good friend and took me to dinner and she said you know You could be a great actor, but you probably won't be you'll probably be a good actor But you won't be great and I looked at her and I said why and she said because you just don't Wanted badly enough she said you're not disciplined and She said I'm telling you this now because I don't want you to waste your life on Something that you're not wholeheartedly in and she said you need to ask yourself the reason you're in this And of course the reason I was in it was well somebody loved me fame fortune. It was all the wrong reasons It wasn't about making a difference I'm sure like you all of those skills that I learned the ability to be in front of an audience and not be nervous The ability to think on my feet and not be nervous All those skills and even singing and I took singing for granted and now I I sing all the time, but I Miss it, you know, I just miss that full Body experience of singing which is what it always was for me But yes, I and I she's no longer with us But I owe her a debt of gratitude because she told me the truth and I didn't get defensive It's like how could I defend against the truth? She's absolutely right That's so huge. I I remember that too I remember acting teachers telling me that and but I always had that thing in my belly like it's gonna be me It's gonna be me. I'm going to those Oscars And it was a service to you because it allowed you at a young age At a vital age to create big things in your life to channel that energy Into where you are now and I have a really interesting question and just let me tell the folks here Who you are so they understand when we're starting that Brian has built an entire career about Storytelling so many of you love storytelling as you speak and so forth your interviewed as well He does technology innovation. He's the founder and chief storyteller at StoryTech immersive He's a leading innovator thought leader producer and writer in the industry of virtual reality and immersive storytelling He's the producer of my brother's keeper and serves as executive producer for Samsung VR live 360 Broadcasting for concerts music festivals and e-sports Concurrently for over 30 years Brian is also a metaphysician and intuitive Who is this people and gaining an enhanced perspective on their lives and their businesses? 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So Brian Back to you my dear Okay, this is where I'm gonna start 2014 last time you are on the show What has happened since then get us on today on everything that has encompassed your life and you've gone through and been through Wow Well one I'm still here I could say it's kind of a miracle I'm I believe in my own story. I have to be totally transparent I can tell my story, but I don't want to be the effect of my story. I you know, yeah, I live from the present but I had come out of a 20 year relationship in 2012 Like a week before the book came out the first book all came out And it was like, you know an astrologer would say well, this is your second statum return So there's no debate and and there was it was very very very cold I had some close friends that got me through it But I also I had just surrendered to God and one of the things Debbie that came up Was I have been sexually abused as a kid? Ah? and At age six and I never really dealt with it I had told my parents about it when I was 30 because I remembered it and And I remember my mother saying do you need help and I said no no no It's just something that happened well come to discover years later that for men many men do not deal with that until they're Late 50s and that's when I started to deal with it. I was able to find a great support group That was I guess what they call a self-moderating support group of other men Straight and gay who had been through childhood sexual abuse And the first thing after my first session they asked me, you know You go around the room and you say one word or Some one sentence about your experience What I realized was I trusted the men in that room and Frankly, I had never trusted anyone in my life after that had happened not my parents not God I just didn't I reached for spirituality. I I'd be willing to say that that probably motivated me but so many people have been abused like have descended into Drug abuse and addiction and problems and and I think I was fortunate in that I was able to hold on to something That was larger than what had happened to me and as I started to go through that. Oh My gosh, I realized all of the circumstances in my life where I had allowed myself to be bullied or talked into things That I was afraid to stand up for myself because it would only mean more hurt and at the same time You know entertainment was great because I was a trained actor So I could go forward and nothing was the matter And you know I was the vice chair of the Emmy Awards and I was the chairman of the New Media Council for the producer skills and I I could go and I could do this job But if I went to an event I would be out of there before anybody knew it I was never the last one to leave I would never get into a deeper conversation with you and I would never let anybody in even in the 20 years of relationship Also managed to attract someone who is abused and didn't realize the consequences of that abuse When I started to deal with that So many things changed so many things were Understandable to me of why I would behave the way I would behave why I'd go want to go in my house and close The door and not want to come out It was almost like the little kid in me Would would over deliver to clients like we'd agree to do this much and I would do this much Because it was like okay now. Do you love me now? Do you love me now? Do you love me and as I started to deal with that I Had asked for a more authentic life and I was getting it so really the collapse of everything from 2012 to like 2015 Was like a death slash rebirth, but all those things that collapsed were the structures that I built to protect myself and my own survival and Once I let those down. I Started to realize one. Yes, it served me to that point, but it no longer served me So I I had to give up I had to let go the other thing is I had to find a new relationship with spirit with God and I had to as an authority figure because I had no trust for authority figures after that and even God was an authority figure So I felt I had to do something to prove something to God in order to be loved in order to benefit from the blessings that were there and it took me I would say there were some Some seminal things like Like u.s. Anderson's three magic words reading that book again and again Ernest Holmes created mind reading that book again and again Confronting my own feelings about my value and my worth Listening which I still do to Marianne Williamson's law of divine compensation and then a Guy named Ryan holiday who wrote ego is the enemy and obstacle is the way two books that I think should be required reading for life And I started to see myself differently and then all of a sudden Someone came into my life. I had doubt I was never gonna have another relationship And I'm gonna tell you if you don't love yourself unconditionally You certainly are gonna be uncomfortable with something that comes in and all they want to do is love you and I had created this amazing human being in my life and And You know how rabbits sit and they're like ready to run away at any moment. That's how I was I was like This is not real. This is not happening. I'm gonna get hurt again Da-da-da-da and then just having to get over all that because I had asked for these kinds of people to populate my life so The next step of courses and I continued doing readings all these times because I could get out of my own way For my intuition all I did was a little indication in a prayer And I I didn't have a lot of ego attached to the intuitive It was just like, okay, that's what I do and by the way every time I tried to run away from it I would get more requests for it. So I was like, okay, this is something you're gonna do in your life and so Then Well, very long story short. I had as a storyteller as a writer Which is you know what daddy you could tell me a million things that I you think I can't do in the world And I'd probably say, oh, well, maybe you're right like well, Brian. You can't cook although I can You you're not a great basketball player, but no one could ever tell me I can't write It's like I it's my salvation So writing was going to be my salvation All at the same time I was involved in television and and the entertainment industry and I didn't really love it It's just I couldn't see the opening. I couldn't couldn't I just couldn't get in the way I wanted to get in no matter what I've done and I always felt like I underachieved But when virtual reality came along and I put on that headset for the first time And it was Samsung skier VR and I put it on and I watched the welcome to VR video I was like in tears I was like this is the medium of storytelling that can move people like I've always wanted to move people and So the first step after that was education And so I went back to the people that I had worked with PBS and showtime and educated them and ended up Like with angels flying above doing my brother's keeper for PBS Which is the story of two brothers fighting on opposite sides during the Civil War who meet each other one last time on the battlefield at Antietam and Attracting these directors that are so they're young and they're wise and they're experimental and they're free of most ego restrictions and Together we were able to create this amazing piece for PBS that moved people like I would watch people come out of the headset in tears and What we wanted to do was not glorify war but show what war does to families and so We didn't know that Donald Trump was going to win the election into the country to be so divided But all of a sudden that piece became very timely and it's still it did so many new things first slow-motion in VR Combined what they call 180 stereoscopic in 360. It was just so innovative and it still stands up three years later as a great example And so I knew where I wanted to be but something was different Something was and that was a huge ego lesson as well because the piece was released at Sundance And I can remember watching this piece on that middler after she did the rose How she expected her whole career to take off from that movie and nothing happened I expected everything to happen from my brother's keeper like right away and nothing happened and Then we it was submitted for an Emmy and very few people watched to vote for it And I was just like wounded, you know And then the realization was wait you didn't tell the story to get prizes. That's not why you did it You told the story to tell the story So think about how this applies to your life Don't wait for permission to tell story Have the confidence within you and I and two things I've learned through the whole process that I remind myself every Freak and bless the day is ABC and LGI. Those are my code words Which is always be calm because if I'm not I can have my feelings But I got a return to center if I'm not I'm not gonna see any or feel or hear any sort of guidance Towards a solution and the second lesson is LGI let God in I can't see everything So that let go let God that's I you know get frustrated in a situation What am I frustrated about am I frustrated because I'm not being recognized or my suggestions aren't being Taken or I can't make this happen the way I think it should happen Or am I there to serve in some capacity and to learn something that I'm not even realizing so I I try to be conscious enough At any time to make that shift Well, I'm in a great relationship. That was in 2014. I Am having the opportunity to write constantly to interface with really good creative people I did I do have a series of them for Affirmations I do and one is to bring Authentic people of integrity and purpose into my life beautiful. Oh my god. I just it's so interesting Everything you're sharing. It's so timely And no accident I was just having a conversation with one of my closest friends about this very thing She spent a lot of time last year letting go of people So that the ones who do show up who do have integrity who do contribute are in her life now So we were talking about that as well as relationships, you know The ones who don't I've come to find a way to forgive and bless and have compassion And I go back to as a good Jewish boy I go back to what Jesus said which was forgive them father They know not what they do he had he knew that they were frightened and it was fear that was dictating their behavior And can I forgive these people who have hurt me? Can I not take it personally? Can I understand that fear was at the bottom of it? So I don't make them wrong because if I make them wrong, I'm not gonna be able to let go of them They're just gonna keep coming back if they don't come back Then people just like them will come back until I am able to have Compassion for other people who are afraid the same compassion. I would want if I was afraid Absolutely. Yeah, that's a very nice Compassionate way to look at it absolutely instead of having a lot of judgment against people so I like that being inclusive and and I this is not a plug, but I have to say Thank you for being so transparent about the sexual abuse. I am literally about to produce I just sent out a newsletter today to invite authors to come write a chapter in the new anthology book called hashtag me too and I made it very clear men and women because I'm clear that the stories are across the board and not just us So I'm in six one in six men one and four women I I went to Actually had the honor to speak at the Millican conference last year on VR and I almost missed my own session because all the others were so interested But they had a me too panel and Ashley Judd was on it. It was moderated by Alexa wit from MSNBC and I listened very carefully because I wanted to understand and As a man, I didn't feel I had a right to speak at that moment. I just felt it was about listening But afterwards I walked up and I said I have took to Alexa. I said I have a real concern Between what people are calling Sexual assault and sexual abuse and how they're defining it Because I feel like it may be diminishing the actual experience of sexual abuse What do you mean by that? What I mean sexual harassment is not rape You know, I mean, I'll probably take a lot of flak for that but if you If you are assaulted that is different than being harassed. I mean, yes emotionally is very challenging to be harassed I you know I was used to being called a lot of names, you know for my religion for my sexuality So that's not pleasant But when someone actually physically abuses you The wounds wounds are forever and They're emotional and they're physical If someone goes to touch you in the nicest way you jump Because you that's what you remember when I'm hugged really tight. I By well many people. I just want to scream So if I've been called a name chances are I will forget that person But something imprints on me physically and I am concerned that Because I want everyone to be taken seriously for their concerns and everyone to be heard and I don't want Me to to be used loosely. I wanted to I wanted to mean something. I don't want people to say Oh everybody's saying that so it's written off, you know So that was my concern and she agreed she said yes We we know this and and we are looking at it and you're right. It's something that needs to be Looked at boy, I never thought this would be about this But I trust the divine so whatever happens Well, it's very powerful and I'm grateful for your vulnerability. There's so much power in being vulnerable and I think it's a very I have Nothing to say about it except that I find it really fascinating what you just brought up I wouldn't have considered it, but it's true. It's a really big umbrella that contains a lot of different moving pieces and Yeah, I I just feel like it is somebody said I was just reading People magazine and somebody was asking Alicia Keys who's going to be host of the Grammy Awards this year Oh, do you think me too is like the conversation of the Day or the week and she's like no honey I think me too is the conversation of the century and I agree I think it's just the beginning of you know possibilities and really much need and change But for those I just want to put it out there for anybody that this is touching or you have a story to tell This is about healing and inspiration. Let me be clear. I'll go to Debbie D net slash anthology. It's DBB I D net slash anthology and you'll find out more about the me to anthology book and how you can contribute Just feels very important to me and I do trust source when I get that kind of a download So I want to go on the source training here right now because it's fascinating to me Brian You saying because of the abuse Man do I relate to I had not sexual but parental abuse and for that No, trust God goddess no trust like it's on me if I'm if my life's gonna work I'm gonna figure out muscle through so it was a lot of my stuff for a long time and Great healing around that. How did you come to heal? What was it that allowed you to go from that place of no trust to then allowing an ultimate connection for you to source? one I Realized I wasn't the only one that other people had their stories Some of them so much worse than mine, which by the way led me to immediately diminish my own experience Which the guys in the group would not let me do because it's all relative and When I realized I was in a safe space to start telling my story and then there was a There was a book. I read Victims no longer or victims no more. I cried through every page of that book because I identified with so much that was in that book I had a willingness to heal and honestly Debbie I just didn't want to be angry. I just didn't want to be angry anymore. I just did not want my and I have this Really weird sense of justice because the people the perpetrators got away with it So when someone gets away with something even if it says minimal was going through a red light I'm like, they should be arrested. They should be you know, because I didn't get the justice So if I don't get justice, what's the alternative the alternative is forgiveness. I had to take the charge away from I had to stop blaming myself Because I that's the first thing you do is well, I was just this kind and loving little boy, you know Maybe they saw something that you know so Yeah So I I just and then I made the I made a real commitment to heal from it And I made a commitment to be honest and to disclose I I'm in the producer's guild and they um, I don't know if you remember the movie spotlight So I went to the screening of spotlight and I was with Andrew my other half and I said I'm about to do something I've never Done before and I stood up in front of 300 people at that screening To thank those people for making that movie And I said, I'm sure the people in this room who know me don't know this about me You know, I was abused at age six And I am living with the consequences of that and it will never I can never be unabused So if I can't change that How do I love myself and support myself to live with it? And I have to say that the work I do in readings and the work I do with other people the the continual Getting beyond yourself like your own stuff And just serving and supporting other people that helps a lot because then it's not all about you, you know, you're not the The victim I didn't want to be a victim I I wanted to be at the source of my life not that the effect not at the effect of what had happened Cool. Well, when we come back, we'll talk a little bit more about the readings that are offered And some of the coaching that brian does out into the world today You're listening to dare to dream podcast and video I am a media visibility strategist and I help you create a unique and fierce presence through coaching To write your book getting your book to a guaranteed international bestseller and getting you booked and scheduled on media interviews As a certified coach, I help clients become profitable and fulfill their purpose I have a free gift for you if you'll go to debbie dashinger dot com and you can receive your gift How to use free publicity? I'll show you how you can be a code to expert the authority And be interviewed on media today And for those of you who may just be tuning in after we've started This is debbie dashinger dare to dream and i'm interviewing brian seth hearst who's a managing partner Story tech story tech immersive writer solutionist and storyteller You can find him at facebook.com slash Hold the book or register at rise partnership dot net So Before we get into the readings and coachings brian, you've said that your life is like creating art and knowing your craft your life Is like creating art. That's really interesting. Of course. I've heard life imitates art art imitates life What is that for you? I didn't even remember saying that um I think you got to know the instrument just like acting you got to know your instrument You got to know what you're capable of uh, you have to be able to be objective in the evaluation of your skills Which means you got to be able to remove your ego from it You got to know when you you need help like if it's bigger than what you actually what you just offered I'm thinking now How could that be about that am I ready for that in my life? I've got to I've got to put that on the meditation bulletin board and and and have some consideration of that What I trust for me is inspiration as a writer When i'm writing Regardless of the media I you asked me earlier before the before we started do I channel stuff? You know, would that be a channel work? I think it's all channeled. I think when I create a character I know exactly what that character wants to say and how they want to appear in the world and you know, I have a An anthology series i'm working on right now for specifically for vr. That's all about moral relativism And the the situations i'm told about do you know like it'll be in this place? But then the characters I kind of let them just speak So I think any writer that writes dialogue Or even a book knows that the characters are speaking through them And I then trust that whatever the spirit was that brought through those characters Will bring through the divi gas figures of the world to get those characters out of the world I believe that flow. It's like i'm not going to stop and say okay. Now. What do I do? I go now What do I do? And I try and recognize that i'm not in it by myself so and as far as The rise coaching program and the readings those are prompts one of the skills I've had to learn for myself is when I hear a prompt and when I should follow that prompt not like oh, there's a good idea, but That's a prompt which is what happened with the coaching program, which was Your clients you see this need in clients that you're reading So you just do a you can do an intuitive reading and then they go off But what's the follow-up and you you may have brought up issues during that reading Who's going to help them with those issues? You know, how are they going to work through it? Can you help them and then the analogy of coaching with athletes like you can have that natural talent and that natural ability But you'd want somebody who walked that road first and was experienced that would say Okay, your hand is this way on this jump. It needs to be this way I want you to concentrate on that for a moment until you do it so many times that it takes its place that it's You know that the adjustment that you've made sticks So then the questionnaires that became part of this program because I said, well, I'm only going to do five sessions, right? I'm going to help people realize what the blocks are what their vision is and what they what the opportunity is in five sessions What are those five sessions that all of a sudden I had all these like 15 questionnaires? There's a lot of homework people really have to be committed to grow That's all I asked is that you're committed to grow and you do the homework And when you come for a reading or a session all I ask is that your your mind your ears and your heart are open And that you're committed to grow and you don't give your power to me You don't give your power away to me. You are the source you and god are working together I'm just here to coach And so That's how all of that comes to God. It's following those prompts. So I was like, oh great You know the coaching program I've coached about Between 12 and 15 people over the last year experimenting you see how it works and it was like I literally heard that's trying to move to the next level the next level is the book well So my question this is exactly what happened. I was like If you're going to have somebody do a coaching book, they're going to be stuck by themselves without a coach How is that going to work? And then I hear it's a buddy book So two people do this together and they learn to coach and support each other or there are partnership groups And it was like great. So Rise partnership. So that's what gave rise to rise partnership.net. So it's like And if I hit that moment Debbie, and I'm I'm sure you do the same thing If I hit that moment where I don't know I go, hey, I don't know it'll come It'll come just let me relax about it. I'm not going to fight for it Just if I fight for it, my hands aren't open. So I can't receive I'm just gonna go, okay. What is it? Oh, this is awesome. I love your coaching program and I love the elements you're talking about Accountability is saved my life when I desire to create something and resisted it at the same time Uh, yeah, it's like anti-magnetism and I've used Accountability like I'm just going to text you every day and tell you what I'm doing and I'd be too ashamed to text I'm going to go, I didn't do anything You know how I've told you this before how whole came to be was I literally heard you're going to write a book in 30 days And I knew, you know, I would rather eat cookie So I called terry bergman very intuitive friend She's been the intuitive that I go to for my whole life since I met her when I was 18 I said terry, I want to send you a chapter a day. So I finished this book in 30 days And I did sometimes I got it in at 11 59 But I sent a chapter a day and that accountability was the reason that book got done Yeah, thousand percent. So this sounds like a very powerful Coaching program and I'm going to guess that as you coach people through these five sessions to help them identify the blocks And then to heal them that you're also using your intuitive gifts To see the matrix of what's happening. It's it is a kind of a combination of the experiences I've had in my own life um And the intuitive ability that I have used for my whole life even before I started doing it officially And I believe that any great coach has to be intuitive I mean, I don't care if they think they're intuitive or not They are because what they're doing is they're setting themselves aside for a moment They're accessing their experience, but they're observing And as they observe they have If there are those out of the way they have a vision of what's really going on So it's combining practical exercises practical experience and practical to do items That are not crazy. It's examining things that um You know that the final exercise in the in the fifth session because each session builds upon the other It's like an I didn't plan that it's just the way it came through But the final session Before now it's the state of your life So now you actually write at the beginning you write this state of your life and at the end after five sessions You write the state of your life It's like that's just objective the final exercise before that is um And I know other people have done this but I really require people to do it Which is I want you to write the feature magazine story about you Wow, and I look like can you give me? I want you to imagine the project that you've done So I have one client who is a space designer for high net worth clients and I said what is the project that you did That got the world's attention and what is the story they are going to tell about you and this project And I need your picture and I need a headline and I only need 1200 words, but if you want to write more you can Very hard exercise for somebody I'll bet it is and have people written That journalism piece about themselves and then had it come to fruition. Yeah, I I've watched it with one client It's it actually happened to see It happened so fast And it was like, you know, I was like well that that might be five years out because there's another exercise in their own Possibility thinking because most people can be limited in their thinking So you say dare to dream this is dare to look at whatever's possible So yeah, that does happen and I think that's part of the purpose of it and and mind you Debbie I wouldn't ask you to do an exercise as a coaching client unless I put myself through it So it's kind of like it's kind of like when the people that draw your blood have to stab each other in their training You know so that they know what it feels like Um, it's like, yeah, I had to go through all of those exercises and not all of them are pleasant Because you're really coming face to face with yourself and whatever's in the way between the essence of who you are Regardless of how it got there. You can't move it till you see it You can't walk around it. You can't walk over it. You can't go through it unless you see it. Hmm. Wow Incredible stuff. So all right, we're going to head into the readings here And I'm just going to remind you Subscribe to the show it'll come right in your inbox dare to dream is available for you Leave us a five star review We have lots of you who follow us and email and go to patreon.com slash dare to dream You'll get a lot of free bonus gifts there when you sponsor or contribute a dollar or more a month The show again is sponsored by dr. Dane here and access consciousness. They create energetic healings Immediately, it's a very powerful stuff And for those of you who are entrepreneurs Or small business folks There's an amazing platform out there. I use it. 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They just kind of come through So, uh, if I look at where you are right now, so Wow, so you You have reached a level of mastery Where everything it's still challenging because of the work that you do and the volume of the work that you do but You've been asking for To like move up to the next level like you want to play a bigger game You're not sure what that game is and you're wondering How do I maintain what I have while I build this bigger game? And what is that bigger game? So it's kind of asking you to you're kind of asking you to return to the essence of your purpose And you're looking for a larger expression of that purpose. It's like You finally gotten your value. So you finally understand what value is you've been communicating that to other people and now it's And you've been very very visible, but there's this part of you that That visibility has actually sacrificed part of your Personal life. So a lot of energy has gone to being visible and to helping others And you're turning now To actually look at the quality of life and by quality of life I just don't mean the physical quality of life You actually may be looking at living circumstances and the possessions that you have and getting rid of things But you're also looking at the level of spiritual quality in your life Which shifts you back to you having life rather than life having you Um So you're about to reorganize things It doesn't mean you're not going to continue with a successful business and that business might be more successful But it means uh moving up to a different level of I'd say effective delegation Maybe it's in training others to do what you do But there is this shift out to the right which actually takes you further out into the world So before that happens you have to be prepared for it. You have to There is this you know, there's this um Kind of gap right now where you you're not quite sure how to best care for yourself Or what the next thing is to do and you know, you're waiting You're actually waiting for some sort of signal But the waiting is meant this gap this space is meant to retrain you in self care Like how if I'm going to run a marathon, how am I going to train for that marathon? Well, if I'm going to go further out into the world How do I need to condition myself Of spiritually emotionally physically mentally to make this larger journey Which by the way will require you coming out of what you consider to be a safe space This is a space, you know and very familiar But you want to get out. It's like someone who's been in the house for a long time and says, oh, you know what? I want to go to Rome So you you have to figure out how to get to Rome, but first you have to get out of the house So this is like you've asked for this expansion. We've kind of prayed for this expansion you are You are weighing what the balance is in other words How much of debbie has to be out in the world our what pieces of you are there? What do you reserve for the self or you just get bigger to contain it all? And what does that mean and how do you set up the support systems for that? You're also looking at It's like there's It's like I can can I ask how old you are? Are you are you willing to say that? Oh my goodness. My goodness. My goodness. I've never said it on okay. You don't have to say it. Let me just say It's like your life is divided into thirds The first third was ego driven The second third was self-discovery driven. The third third is service in a big way But all the value that you contribute to the service comes back to you So the things that you were afraid of that would not be taken care of before will actually come easier to you um, but the idea of not having anything to prove and and Being able to follow the journey and not being at the effect of the world And not even taking the negativity that's in the world as a consideration But saying well the way to solve the negativity is through Not making it wrong But coming up with solutions that are based in love and based in In the positive nature of everyone and being able to direct them towards that positive nature Brilliant. Oh my goodness. Hello Yes Yes, all of that and I'm so curious that piece of self-care Let me just say I do have an accountability partner right now And he just texted me right before I started this interview Debbie, what is it going to take for you to treat yourself like you would one of your clients? Because I had to text him. I have not been meditating and I had committed to meditating and So I know this is a thing for me. Um, not just meditation, but let's talk about self-care. I get my ass to the gym I'm really good with that. I think I eat pretty decent, but I want to know what you mean I think you're you're coming from self-care like this Like it's a burden like it's a chore like it's not an act of self-love. It's an obligation And I think there's something in the past that That says in order to be good enough You these are the things you have to take care of Whereas the shift that's coming is you're actually coming in from spirit And you're actually welcoming the opportunity to care for yourself It's the part of you that feels you've got to serve everybody else dinner before you eat And that's the part that might feel Less than or not enough. So you'll feed these people first and then you you won't have time or you'll get the scraps So I think putting yourself first in self-care might have some selfishness associated with it Some idea that this is selfish or that you would be called selfish So you have to give the others first before you take care of yourself And the good news is that you're shifting that anyway So you can tell your accountability buddy that You know, you're you're looking for a more loving way to do that self-care rather than the judgment and I had to ask for support from from him is to say His text can be yeah, why don't you treat yourself the way you treat your clients? But I would rather see him text. How are you loving yourself today? What have you done for you today? Oh my goodness. Thank you so much. That's a huge Change just to say it like that. I can feel it like You know, I just want to talk about perspective and shifting perspective when I was in the fifth grade Um, we were playing basketball and my best friend at the time said to me I don't why are you such a spaz? Why can't you what is that and literally use that word? Why can't you do this and I said because I'm not good at sports and he goes you are the best Dancer in school. Why can't you just think of this like dancing? boom Once I thought of basketball as choreography. I got really good Dude, that's an awesome example. I love that. You know when I went to usc Uh, I had to go to dance five days a week at 8 a.m. And here I am with these people who Amazing dancers their legs are going up here. And here I am like I felt like the spaz Totally, you know jewish girl from new york like oh my god. I can sing I can act but please the dance thing I'm no clue And I went through so much suffering and one day it occurred to me. Oh Music I know how to count I can count and learn the steps and within six months. I was when I say the best person in class I don't mean as a dancer what I did is I learned to move very well and present myself beautifully on stage I was so good and quick at learning choreography that I had dancers really good accomplished dancers coming to me and saying What were those steps? Show me that I could see you have it. I was like, oh It was that way that you found Yeah That is what I Worked to do in coaching To shift your perspective And the truth is is you got whatever that barrier was that was the thinking I can't dance You can't do it can't dance Your shift in thinking allowed you to get centered and get in yourself and you know as a singer if you're not using your whole body You're not singing You know, so it's like what is this instrument? You asked about life as an art. What is this instrument? What's getting in the way to float my head? And so your friend says this to you you are the best dancer you think of it and I was And what happened with basketball? Were you then a really accomplished basketball player? I got really good and unfortunately for me at the time I Through the first year of junior high. I grew faster than anybody else. So I was tall But then everybody got taller than me and basketball became completely uninteresting Ah Interesting. Well, how powerful would a powerful way to work with your people? And I'm curious about you brian. What do you do on a daily basis? To ground yourself or as self-care? I resist just like you and do it anyway Um, I my mornings are I get up and what I usually do is write first thing like write in a journal Right of what I'm feeling And then I usually grab some sort of reading before I meditate So it um, what was today's today's was of course in miracles I rest in God was today's lesson and I don't do them in order I just what am I going to grab today and I sort of trust what I'm going to grab When I after that I have a series two pages That of custom affirmations that I've done for myself that address My weak links You know where I know that I will fall down if I don't affirm it Um, and they come from different books Um, then I will meditate So that's usually about the first hour of my day and then I'm able to handle the day now if it gets frustrating during the day What I do is um I will look for a moment or a time where I can just stand up walk away and just take a breath And I tell you I the two Big prayers I use are the prayer of job as Which is uh You never when it comes time to say it. I can never say it. It's in my head every day. It's so automatic um Enlarge my territory Oh that you would indeed bless me and enlarge my territory that your hand would be with me That you would keep me from evil that I may not cause pain and each one of those segments has a different meaning and a different energy You can read bruce wilkinson's book on that bruce h wilkinson and then Marianne wilkinson has Uh Out of the course of miracles, where would you have me go? What would you have me do? What would you have me say and to who? Wow And then at the end of her book and I'd have to run up and get it but it's like Nothing binds you except your fears. Nothing stops you except your beliefs there's like three things at the end of that book and I I read those to remind myself because The bottom line of all of this is how I think is what I will create That's it ancient wisdom the chinese said it the jews said it The catholic book of mysticism says it that to bet and book of the dead says it The earnest home says it. Marianne williamson says it. I say it. So it's it's your as you think Wayne dyer said it change your thoughts change your life. That's why i'm a dallas thanks to wane dyer So that's my day and then when I get to the gym The program I love now not hate, but when I get to the and I have these now, which I never had before Get to the gym. I spend 10 minutes on the stirmaster, but what's in my ears Is an audiobook so it will be either Marianne's book. It might be ryan holiday. It might be It's just something that is playing subconsciously while i'm doing everything else Wow That's that's what's working today, and it might not work tomorrow. I may have to try something new Yeah, well self-care can shift as we do too. We can add pieces and let go And I like all that mindfulness You know, we're at the end of the show, but I really want to get these last two questions in For those of us who speak on stage For those of us who are authors for those of us who are interviewed storytelling is essential You are a master storyteller. This is your domain What are some key takeaways about storytelling that you can offer That might be new for us to learn Other than story structure, and I would send you to a woman named allison norrington of story Oh, what is it story central just look at allison norrington. You'll find it. Um Other than structure It doesn't matter the more honest you are The less good you try to be The more willing you are to share who you are whether you're writing characters because every character reflects a part of yourself um, the more willing you are to let To let the same force that created you being here on the planet Come through you to tell the story and to create the story I'd say that's part one part two is craft I mean you really Have to work at craft and the way you do it the way you work at it is by doing it So just like any if you set out to be the best gymnast in the world You're going to have to work at those skill sets and that craft And then you have enough that you can trust it that everything can just come through you So I think craft is very important When people say well, how is telling a story doesn't vr change the way you tell a story and I go well It's not the one of the story that changes It's the how and there are many different tools in terms of storytelling So you get to find out the best way to tell your story and whether you're on stage or you're Pitching a story or you're writing your story. You ain't doing it alone Some energy some inspiration something is coming through you the more you trust that the the higher the level goes Beautiful. Okay. I hope that made sense Very much so 100% I really like the element of getting out of the way doing it So you hone your craft getting out of the way And don't worry if you're good enough because a lot of people will have an opinion Unconvinced the true artists know when they're getting away with stuff And and know when they're not So this is dare to dream brian seth hearst. What are you next dare to dream? What are your future dreams and goals? Wow You know, I used to have a it all laid out now I just want to tell stories That inspire let people see the possibilities and make a difference in the world Because I believe we find out who we are by the stories we tell And I just want to keep telling stories regardless of the medium So if you ask me what dream is It is to produce right and direct in any medium that gets the story out into the world And to bring down any obstacles within myself that could prevent that from happening To share it's just to share I think we're so lucky to have you here. I I heard of course I've heard you interviewed over the years and one of the things that stands out to me is You talked about having had a difficult childhood And not only from the abuse. I had great parents with great values. I just was unable to communicate that My dad had one dream for me and that didn't work out so well. I had another dream for me My mom both but I was very fortunate and the parents that I chose So I I didn't suffer for want of anything in my childhood It's just the abuse that really threw everything you know into tilt Yeah, I appreciate that clarification. Yeah, that's good. It's important actually And a great sister My point is that even despite that because that Colors one's life. It has a lot of power sometimes And the fact that you have become who you are that you have the personality you do That's the thing that i'm so attracted to you and you brian is this I mean, you're so animated. You're so interesting. You are such a great storyteller And you're doing such amazing things with your life So I feel blessed that you were able to thank you the way supersede that to be here with us in the way that you are I just think it I never think of it in terms of that. I just think it costs a lot to not be who you are Yeah, and god Gave me something gave me gifts I would be a fool not to take those blessings and use those gifts and and the only way people can The only way we understand each other is when we're brave enough to tell our stories And not not to portray. I don't want to portray myself as a victim in any way It's something everything that's happened to me has happened to me It's something that happened. It's not who I am Something that happened, but it's not who I am I end today's show with a poster I saw that got my attention that reads the seven rules of life one let it go Never ruin a good day by thinking about a bad yesterday two ignore them Don't listen to other people live a life that's empowering to you three Give it time Time heals everything four Don't compare The only person you should try to beat is the person you were yesterday five Stay calm It's okay not to have everything figured out Know that in time you'll get there six It's on you Only you are in charge of your own happiness and finally seven smile Yes, it's brilliant Life is short So enjoy it while you have it you had a breath today that woke you up and is taking you through the day So enjoy it be fully present today Next week on dare to dream on featuring carrie samuels. She's the most amazing Numerologist and she will do readings. It's amazing. So you want to tune in for this big transformation conversation You can subscribe to all of these interviews at youtube.com slash deb on the radio and you can Watch visually my guests and myself in conversation Again, go to debbie dashinger.com So you can learn how to get free publicity right away and get yourself booked on media as the go-to expert Your online platform so you can sell your online programs and make passive income is at t h and k dot cc Slash deb Thanks for joining us on dare to dream today and remember the secret of success Is having the courage to begin in the first place