 Good morning sir. Good morning sir. Thank you sir. Dhruva. Sir. Dhruva is from Tikhamgarh. Sir my father was from Tikhamgarh. I was born in Chhatarpur. Chhatarpur. Yes sir. How far is Chhatrapur from Tikhamgarh? Sir both are in Bundelkhand region around 150 kilometers. Okay. Yes. Okay. What are the challenges in Bundelkhand region? Sir the critical thing is sir there is environmental, ecological integrated area. Second would be sir environmentally also pause area. And sir third is sir there is a exodus of the people. Why? Because of sir lack of economic activities. The critical factor would be the water sir. So major challenge is water? Yes sir. What governments have been doing for that? Sir first is that has been recently in the news. Kane-Bithwa link project has been there. And second sir a small farm pond project is also going on very successfully over there sir. So apart from that sir even the society and the farmers are adapted to different form of agriculture and change their crops. Because agriculture has been the mainstay of that region's economics. And I think big infrastructure something is also being done. Yes sir. Kane-Bithwa link so one canal. Not other than link. Some Bundelkhand expressway. Yes sir. That expressway is being developed. Sir already developed and it is active right now sir. So it has connected till Jhansi. And the other routes are getting developed sir. Okay. What are your views on Kane-Bithwa river linking? You should be there. You being going to be a forest officer. Sir there are two aspects sir. First if we see from the whole region's point of view sir water has been a critical factor there. So sir water is required else sir the region would go into more of exodas would be there. And so this has been the case since long. I think since 1997 I have been seeing that. And sir second would be sir if we talk about the second constraint. That is the core area is getting submerged due to the formation of the dam. Which core area? Sir of Panna National Park sir. So sir regarding that sir we have to compensate it through compensatory afforestation. And sir getting the other regions. But can you compensate it through compensatory afforestation that those natural forest core area tiger habitat. Can you compensate? Sir to say it honestly sir it would take a long time sir. Long time how much? 10 years, 20 years, 50 years, 100 years. Sir if we see the main species there sir. Then that would be teak and other plants such as Enogizis pendula. So they take around for 80 years in natural forest. Okay your father is Ayur's officer. Yes sir. He is in Ayurveda or? Sir he was Ayurvedic doctor sir. This government have created two commissions. You know something about that? Two national commissions. Sir recently there was a law regarding. Sorry sir I am unaware right now. National Commission on Indian Gesture Medicine. And another one is there. Sir homopathy. Sir homopathy I cannot recall sir. This one I knew sir. Okay next month some very important elections are going to be held. Any idea? Sir in Madhya Pradesh or sir in Madhya Pradesh it is Panchayatira's election that are going to be held. At the national level two very important elections are going to be held. Sir I cannot recall as of this moment sir. Elections are the post of resident and? Okay sir. Sir president sir I cannot. And another one? Sir I believe that would be vice president. And vice president. Okay. Core infrastructure sectors. Can you tell me names of five six core infrastructure sectors? Sir I am unable to recall exact but if you would give me a moment then I can. Sir that would be power refinery and sir power refinery and sir electric. Okay. Suppose you are a divisional forest officer and you have a forest colony. Sir. Sir if permitted sir then I would like to make it I would like to take the raw materials from that region only. And design it in such a way that the material cannot be exported from somewhere else. So that it is zero sum for that particular area no other construction material. Second would be sir groundwater harvesting and rainwater harvesting would be there. Third would be sir in order to make it a greener building. I would also like to ensure that there is certain reflective paints on the roof so that the temperature remains low. And sir I would also like to minimize the area of the construction so that the other maximum area can be dedicated to some sort of. Okay but just tell me what else you can do one is moisture conservation water harvesting and all what else can be done. Sir development of a garden or a mini forest sir that would be another and water conservation soil. Composting, biogas plants. Sir yes sir that can all that will be done sir composting can be done. Okay majoritarian culture you heard of majoritarian culture pluralistic society. Yes sir. Culture which is dominated by a single community and can be termed as the majoritarian culture. And a pluralistic society in which there are there are many culture which are cohabiting with each other. Okay some very sad incident happened in Madhya Pradesh relating to Madhya Pradesh yesterday or so. Studying the papers. Sorry sir I haven't. Sir I cannot. Some extent to place in some other state. Sir in Uttarakhand I remember sir. Okay Mr. Srivastava. Yes sir. So you have participated in evolution 08. Sir. What is that? Sir it was a technical cultural festival organized at my college and sir it was first time initiated by us. There was no culture there was no precedent prior to that sir. You almost mentioned there was no culture. Anyway now the issue here you are a mechanical engineering student. Sir. Are you aware of second law of thermodynamics? Yes sir. Sir it introduces us to the concept of entropy. What is entropy? Sir sir it can be said as the degree of disorderness in a system sir. It is one way process can it be reversed? Sir in universe it cannot be reversed but if we take a particular system with a fixed boundary it can be reversed. So it means that in nature it cannot be. Yes sir. That's what it means. Yes sir. Sorry about this. The one of the common reference by the evolutionists. Those who believe that human beings were created what we call creationist is that the second law of thermodynamics that is entropy is contradicting the whole idea of evolution. Because if you look at evolution it is refining. Yes sir. Whereas entropy says that it cannot refine it has to disorder. So this is the one important point which is taken by the creationists saying that God has created. How do you handle this question? Do you agree with it? Sir when we take as a system sir as I told you that in the system the entropy can be even reversed. And if we take it system and universe the entropy will going to increase. So sir if we take a particular species as a system then it will try to minimize the efforts taken by itself to perform a certain task. So in that sense sir evolution does not contradict with the entropy but it decreases entropy in a system. The system will always disorder. Yes sir. So system given the free form it is going to create more disorder. But sir I think sir as a sir if we if a species makes an effort then it moves in a positive direction such as sir even we when we have to reorganize certain things. So we have to. Let me very clear it is like evolution saying that we evolve. Evolving means that we refine. Yes sir. As you correctly pointed out. Yes sir. Direct contradiction to entropy. Sir I think I have to look about that. You also mentioned that this is a national level. This evolution 08 is a national level techno cultural festival. Yes sir. Can technology have an impact on culture? Sir yes sir. Elaborate in the contemporary context. Sir right now if we see then sir technology has overtaken much part of our lives. Sir whether we are using the small gadgets to the ubiquitous mobile phone it has completely surrounded us. So if we compare our culture in a temporal scale to the culture of our previous generation there is going the difference is going to be very obvious sir. That we are very much the more the technology we are getting surrounded with the more we are getting dependent on it. There is a issue of fake news misinformation disinformation. So how do we handle this because it is becoming a serious pernicious problem because it is also threatening the democratic. Sir you are right sir. Sir in this regard sir previously we did not know when this social media boom came that how to handle it. But sir now we understand that it is us as a person or as a society that we are not giving a critical thought to how to about the source of the news. So sir in many districts or many states they even in the Google sir if you will see that there is a column for the fake news that they are regularly discussing and they are telling us how it is treated as a fake news. So and also sir even the social media is used to tackle this fake news menace by making groups at panchayat level or at a certain official level so that the correct information can be disseminated. No if you are saying government as an authority as a source for news then that is such a problem. Sorry sir I did not mean to say that I wanted to say that in a society sir the people who are responsible people who feel that it is their responsibility. I think if even if I am at a position that where I can provide the correct knowledge then I must also do it to the people who are connected to me. Well we can all do it but at the end of the day what we see around is that the fake news is getting more credit. As a policy making let us look at a person who is looking at the holistic nature of the issue what should we do. Sir we should disseminate the correct information in as widely as possible along with the rationale so that the false information cannot be given the required credibility. Sir the same pattern. How do we do that? Sir the same way fake news is spreading sir through the social media through discussions through whatsapp messages or the groups. Do you see it as a technological problem or as an educational problem? Sir I see it more as an educational problem sir because if we are critical in analyzing the news then fake news will have no credit. So what should we do on that? Sir in education also sir right from the middle school we can introduce how to critically analyze or disseminate any information so that in the future the same generation can. Alright I got it. Yes now it is also a technological problem. In fact in recently US has come out with a law where it is asking for algorithmic transparency. Are you aware of this? Sir yes sir I am aware of this. What do you know? Sir companies are using such as Facebook in particular was using certain algorithm so that they can increase the traffic and it was seen that if fake news or the. No you are giving a background what do you know about this particular law? Sir it is a law sorry sir I was not aware about the law I was aware about the concept and the associated. I am the subsidiary question here why should I read fiction everything is false everything is fake it is all made up. Why should I waste my time reading fiction? Sir there are many aspects of fiction sir. Sir first sir at times there is a fiction which is very close to reality they use certain parts of reality such as if we talk about the Frederick Fawcett or Dan Brown. They use the part of reality and then they use their imaginations to construe a new picture. Second is sir when we want to see a imaginative word or utopian word where the solutions can come from sir because from imaginations also at times solutions come. So in that sense also sir fiction helps. It makes you a matured person. Sir. Last question here let's talk about since you are a mechanical engineering student let's talk about air quality index. What are the parameters on which it is measured and are you satisfied with all these parameters do you want any new parameters to be included? So air quality index is measured on I think eight parameters that would be sir carbon monoxide, lead, nitrogen oxides, hydrocarbons, particulate matter 2.5, particulate matter 10. All right. And do you think anything new should be included? Sir yes sir in certain indexes sir NH3 is not there and also CH4 is not there. Sir as a ammonia is one of the major pollutants in the indogangetic plane. Okay right now sorry but there is an issue of carbon dioxide. Sir. US has recently included carbon dioxide as part of air pollution whereas in India we don't have carbon dioxide as air pollutant. So do you think we should include carbon dioxide as air pollutant? You talk about methane to be included. Yes sir. That's a different issue because it's a lot of organic matter which emits CH4. Sir I have to think about sir. Why it is not taken as a pollutant? Sir because sir I am not aware about that sir. Okay Dhruv you are from Madhya Pradesh. Yes sir. Such a beautiful state. But it's a sleeping giant. It's not like Uttar Pradesh or something every day something is coming in the news. Why sleeping? Sir I have to disagree sir we are moving ahead sir. And sir we have been very productive in the agriculture. Regarding the wildlife sir we have been the tiger state, leopard state, gharial state and vulture state. Sir apart from that sir. Sir going to be the cheetah state also sir. And sir apart from the largest forest cover if we look at the culture. The culture is also if we talk about the Ujjain and several other cities such as Orcha. Then there is also cultural heritage. And sir in other parameters such as Suksh Bharat Abhiyar. Sir Indore and Bhopal has been at the forefront. Regarding the sir economic activities with reference to industries. Sir we are we want to catch up more. Because there are only 3 to 4 areas which are very much industrialized such as Indore and Bhopal. So on the same line sir the region of Gwalior and the eastern Madhya Pradesh near Jaipalpur also needs to be developed. So eventually sir we will get there sir. Good. What are the forest types you would get in Madhya Pradesh? Sir the major sir it has a very diverse forest type. So on the eastern side or the south eastern side you will find the moist deciduous forest. Progressively transitioning to mixed deciduous forest. As we move towards north and west part. Sir it will be dry deciduous and gradually progressing to thorny and scrub sir. As we move towards the region of Gwalior and the western part. Please tell 5 important tree species naturally occurring in Madhya Pradesh. Sir first would be Shoriar Obasta. Second would be Tectonagrandes. Third would be Terminalia Tumentosa. Then sir also other Terminalia Cibula, Terminalia Bellarica. And Egil Mermelos, Sir Madhuka Indica. These are the few species. And sir also sir Esterculia orens from Google, from which Google and the government made. You mentioned about the Chita Translocation. From which country it is coming? Sir it is coming from Namibia sir. Namibia. Yes sir. Where it will be placed? Sir it will be placed in Kunopalpur's National Park sir. Okay. In your opinion this is the right step to take. Because already Chita was extinct 100 years ago. And it is experiment. Sir. I want to know what is the logic behind it. Spending so much money. Instead it should have been used for the development of the villages and all these things. Sir if we talk about the Kunopalpur. Sir it is very much ready or I should say it is an ideal location for the animal like Chita. Sir the problem with Chita or the concern. But it was earlier thought that it is the second home of lion. But it was a failure that lion was not given by the time with the Gujarat. Yes sir. Despite the fact that Supreme Court has given its ruling also. Yes sir. So now we have experimented with the Chita. They said next time some other species. I want to know why this fluid concept of this thing. Sir. The scientists are not firm or the forest officers are not firm about their logic. Sir if between the lion and Chita if we talk about both are grassland species. And biologically they both are suitable there. And second is Chita got extinct in 1947 I think sir. And after that there was no Chita in India. So through this there will be increase in the biodiversity. Also sir that area using Chita as a umbrella species whole ecosystem can be developed and protected. So not only that will increase the biodiversity but also sir ecotourism in that area. So eventually the people adjacent to that area will have one more source of income. And sir the only concern that lies is that it is an African Chita not an Asian one. So we have to watch it carefully this experiment. Okay. Recently soil has got importance. Everybody is talking about the soil. Why? It was in news also. Sir it was due to sir one of the eminent person that is Satguru. And he started the safe soil movement. Sir there is a fact that India loses is the largest looser of surface soil in the world sir. And soil is the basic substrate which provides the greenery and the plants which in turn gives the whole ecosystem. Also sir if we conserve the soil and maintain its balance then soil organic carbon is the biggest component through which the carbon sequestration can be done. What is the organic content of Indian soil? Data has been already published. Sorry sir I am not aware of it sir. Okay. What is the what did you take about COP26? Was it a failure or it is a success? Sir I would say sir it was taken has taken incremental steps sir. We have come on the same we are trying to come on the same page but there are still certain decisions that are yet to be taken such as the funding. What would be the funding issue and how we can be counting the amount of carbon that is being means our how will be determining our INDCs. What do you understand by the panchamrith? Prime Minister required this word. Sir yes sir I cannot recall at this moment sir. At least one five panchamrith five very important. Yes sir. The Prime Minister told there nobody was knowing it. What was that? Sir sir sir I just cannot recall it means sir I cannot recall right now. Are you working somewhere right now? Sir I am working in Indian Ordnance Factory Services sir. Okay. So why you want to switch the jobs you are already working? Why you want to move to forest services? Sir sir there are many reasons but sir the primary reason why I am sir I am already in a comfortable position sir. But sir I sir I love the these aspects of forest and I have been associated since my childhood sir. I belong I was brought up in Chadol with where I have seen the sir interplay of forest where the lush green forest wildlife and tribal from the up close area. And sir my father having been an Ayurvedic doctor mother being a tribal education in tribal education sir. They have provided me a view which I could through which I could appreciate more about it sir. And sir every aspect of this service sir is very dear to me and I sir I just love the things that it is going to provide me. And given any day sir I would like to switch from machines to the lap of nature sir. Got it. Can you tell me the hierarchy which is there in the forest services? Sir initially sir as a probation post it is the assistant conservator of forest then deputy conservator of forest. Then sir we move to conservator of forest then sir chief conservator of forest then additional principal chief conservator of forest principal conservator of forest. And sir then I think sir head of the forest in state sir. So there is no other levels in the forest department? Sir DG forest? DG forest sir in the center yes sir. No other levels? Sir there is sir I was sir there is also chief wildlife border at the state level. No no below. Sir below there is sir below here sir. Sir below ACF sir there is a range forest officer.