 We're going to start and sorry, we're going to pray. We'll pray and get started in our class today on keys to supernatural ministry. Okay, Sri Kumar, why don't you pray please and then we'll get started. Sure. Father, we thank you and praise you and honor you God for this wonderful morning that you're given to us, our God. We ask you Holy Spirit, let your presence of Father God guide us and lead us, fill us with your insight and wisdom and understanding so that Father God, we can able to grasp every revelation which is going to come out from the mouth of your servant to God master so that we can able to hold on it and Father God, we can move further or God. Let every word and every revelation which is going to come, let it energize a Lord master, let it Lord master, it is strengthen our spiritual life so that we can be a testimony for the kingdom and Father God, we can expand your kingdom, O God. We submit ourself into your mighty hand and we ask you Holy Spirit, let your presence, lead us and guide us. Thank you for this wonderful time. In Jesus name I pray, amen. Amen, amen, amen. All right, thank you. Thank you, Sri Kumar. All right, thank you, Roman, for joining this class, keys to supernatural ministry. I know we had a break last week. I was turning to something else. So I just want to quickly, just do a quick recap of what we've covered. So in our first section, we talked about the possibility of the supernatural. That means we said, all of us as believers can experience the supernatural and can be used by God or the supernatural to see the supernatural take place in people's lives, so on. So we covered that, we gave four reasons and they're not just four, but four main reasons why that is valid and you and I should be absolutely convinced that God will work in us and through us in this for the supernatural to take place. Then we began to talk about the keys to supernatural ministry. The first key that we talked about is understanding the spiritual realm. So we need to understand how the spiritual realm operates because the supernatural really is the spiritual overriding the natural. So we are co-working with God, connecting with God and the spirit in order to overwrite something that's happened in the natural, that's the supernatural taking place. So we must understand the spiritual realm. We need to be very keen, very sensitive. We need to understand that from the spiritual realm I can influence, I can affect change in the natural realm. That's the first key. The second key, which we started talking about two weeks ago and we didn't complete it was the key of faith, right? So this is a very important key because it is faith that connects us with God. And I know we did a full course on faith in the first year but we're just touching on some important elements about faith, especially in relation to the supernatural whether it's receiving the supernatural or ministering the supernatural, right? So that's what we were doing in our last class and I want to just continue that and complete it today. Faith is a very important key in both receiving the supernatural and ministering the supernatural. Now, let's just quickly review some things that we have said before we go into the new insights here. So what we did cover when we talked about the key of faith is we said that Jesus taught us, faith is key to seeing the spiritual bear upon the natural whether he said in John 940, he said, if you believe you will see the glory of God. In Matthew 17, he said, faith like a mustard seed can move a mountain. So a spiritual thing happening, faith, believing God, causing the glory of God to be revealed in the natural. But then we started emphasizing some key things here when we want to either receive the supernatural or minister the supernatural. And we were talking about this. We said our will is involved, you see. So when we talk about faith, engaging in faith, our will is involved. So if we want to see the supernatural happen, we've got to be determined to receive it, right? We said, it's not just gonna fall off like the phrase we use, like cherries of a tree, our will is involved. Now understand that, and these are things that we did speak in our last class, that there is the norm and God is sovereign. So there will always be the things that he does on his own. But the norm, meaning this is how we told us to come to him is you come in faith, you believe that he is, and that he's a rewarder of those who diligently seek him. So this is accessible to everybody. Everybody can engage with God in faith. And there will be times when God will move supernaturally or let's say, sovereignly, independent of people's faith. There will be times. But that's God's prerogative. He will do it as and when he pleases. But what's open to all of us is we can initiate it by faith. That means we can go to the word of God and say, God, your word says it. Now I'm by faith, I am taking it for myself or be ministered to others. But faith is involved. Now in order, sorry, in order to exercise faith, our will is involved. So this is where one area, the reason I emphasize it is, this is one area many people tend to miss it. Let me just look at your faces. All right, I just give them the screen so I can look at you while I'm talking. All right. Yeah, so this is where many believers miss it. Meaning the notion is, if God wants me to have it, I will have it. But Jesus emphasized, you desire, you will, means you must engage with your will, then you will have it. So because many believers position themselves saying, God, if you want it, I will get it. But that's not the place we have to be in order to exercise faith. In order to exercise faith, we have to say, God, you have promised it and I will have it, right? My will is involved. Many, God's end is already confirmed because he promised, he made the promise for healing or for provision or whatever you're believing God for. So he has already made the promise. So it's not about whether God wants you to have it. He's said you can have it because he made the promise. So now I must connect with that promise with an act of my will, determined will saying, God, I will have it. If I'm in this passive state of, God give it to me if you want to or I will have it if you want me to, I cannot exercise faith because I'm just leaving it to maybe, may not be. But when I'm on this state saying, God, you have spoken, I want it, I will have it. You know, we are in Matthew 15, 28. He told the woman or daughter, great is your faith, be it to you as you will or be it to you as you desire, right? So you'll find in the teachings of Jesus he said, you will, John 15, 7. If you abide in me, my words abide in you, ask what you will and it will be done for you. And you ask what you desire, ask what you want. But you're in this position where you are in him, his words are abiding in you. So obviously we're not going to ask anything out of that. Not in alignment with this word. That's why he says, you ask what you will, your will is involved. Okay. So when we're ministering to people, just like Jesus, it's important to take the time to make sure that their will is in the right place. You know, a classic example in Matthew 20 is the blind man and we have, we have spoken about him. The blind man cries out, you know, the Jesus is passing by, he says, son of David have mercy on me. And then people are telling him, keep quiet, keep quiet. But he cries out all the more, then they bring him to Jesus. And you know, the interesting question Jesus asks him, Matthew 20, Jesus asks him, what do you want me to do for you? What do you want me to do for you? Jesus, why even ask this question? He's blind. Pretty obvious he needs his sight. I think the reason he's asking that question is, okay, let's be clear, what do you want? Do you want money? Do you want your sight? Because for all you know, you know, he was sitting by the roadside begging, right? So people passing by and he must have been doing this for a long time. His only expectation was put some money. He wasn't expecting any one of those passers by to heal him. So now he's crying out to Jesus. Jesus saying, what do you want me to do for you? Meaning, what bears your will? Do you will for money or do you will for your eyesight? And he said, Lord, that I might receive my sight. And he stated it very clearly, this is what I want. I want my sight. So Jesus, from you, I'm asking something different. All the others passing by, I'm asking money, but from you, I'm asking, I want my sight. And Jesus wanted him to express that. So I think very important when people come for prayer, when you and I are ministering to people, we have to encourage them to say, hey, this is the promise of God, be determined to receive it. Don't be in a half-hearted state. Don't be no, if I get it, it's okay. If I don't get it, it's okay. No, we are determined. God, I must have it. I must receive my healing. Your will is involved in order to exercise faith. The next important element about faith, administering the supernatural is that when we minister, when we minister, remember, we also have to minister to people in faith, right? So let's look at Galatians 3 and verse 3. I just want somebody to read it. Maybe some of us may be familiar with it, but let's, Galatians 3, sorry, Galatians 3, let's read, I said verse 3. No, Galatians 3, let's read, please, verse 2 and 5. Galatians, let me type it in the chat. Galatians 3, verses 2 and 5. Let me read that, please. Galatians 3, verses 2 and 5. Let me ask you only this. Did you receive the spirit by works of the law or by hearing your faith? 5, does he who supplies the spirit to you and works miracles among you? Do so by works of the law or by hearing with faith? So Galatians, of course, is, you know, Paul's epistle that he is dealing with the believers in this area in Galatia. Trying to help them understand it's not by law, but it's by faith in Christ that this Christian life has lived. Now, along that, he's saying, okay, did you receive the Holy Spirit, verse 2? Galatians 3, verse, did you receive the Holy Spirit by the law or by faith? And then he says in verse 5, the one who provides or ministers the spirit to you and works miracles. Does that happen by the law or by faith? In other words, God working through his vessels. Of course, you can imagine when Paul went and his team, they went to Galatia on the first missionary journey, Paul and Barnabas in the second missionary journey, Paul and Silas, so when they administered, God is working through them. So the people received the Holy Spirit, they received miracles. And Paul is asking, did that happen by the law or was it by faith? And it's very interesting by the hearing of faith, meaning there was a preaching of the word involved, which is our next point. But the point I want to emphasize here is this, that in ministering the work to the spirit, in ministering healings or miracles, it is done through faith. So we as instruments, right? As we minister to people, we ourselves must be in a place of faith as you minister to people, okay? That means you and I are convinced that God is healer, that God is deliverer, that God is miracle worker, that God will meet the need of the people. So you and I are not saying, well, maybe it'll happen, maybe it won't happen. We are ministering in faith, right? So when, this is very important when doing the work of the ministry, you and I be in a place of faith. Now, just speaking practically, there may be times when you feel great faith and there may be times when you don't feel a lot of faith. And we're going to minister anyway. You're going to pray for people anyway. Sometimes, you know, there may be a lot of doubts in our minds about certain things. You know, when people describe the situation, say, hey, please pray for me. You ask them what do you want me to pray for? And they'll be, you know, they'll tell you the problem and it's like, whoa, this seems too difficult or whatever. You know, obviously in the natural, there'll be doubts in our minds, but you and I must learn to minister by faith in the word of God, even when there are all these questions in our minds. You say, God, this person has told me their problem. There's no way I can figure out in my mind how that problem can be addressed, but I believe you. I believe your word. And I'm asking you to intervene, right? So we have got the people in a place where they are determined to receive their wills involved and then we ourselves are going to minister from a place of faith in God. Expecting God to come through. No doubts, no questions asked. There may be questions in my mind, simply because of the situation or whatever they've said, but as far as God is concerned, his word, his truth, our hearts, my heart has to be settled in that and I'm ministering from a place of faith. And you can look back at the example of the disciples of Jesus during his earthly ministry and the times that has been recorded for us when they didn't see results. In both those times, Jesus only said, or the point of failure that Jesus pointed to was faith. They came and said, why could we not cast the demon out? He said, because of your unbelief, right? This is to his own disciples because of your unbelief. He didn't say it was not God's will. He didn't say the people didn't have enough faith. No, because your unbelief, who? The people doing the ministry. The people ministering. He said, because of your unbelief. So what I wanna emphasize is for you and me as believers, when we are ministering, we need to minister from a place of faith. And one of the things that you and I must do is to keep ourselves in a place of faith. So that's why I encourage you and me as people who want to be used by God and ministering to people to constantly hear the word of God. Now hear the word of God concerning healing, concerning miracles, concerning things that will build your faith up so that you stay in that place of faith. So you don't know when you're gonna get a call from somebody saying, hey, please pray for me or when the need comes. So you and I keep ourselves in this place of faith and also for your own self in your various things of life, exercise your faith because in the end, it's the same faith that you're gonna use to help somebody else. The faith that you use for your own life situations to believe God, the same muscle that you use to do things for your own self in your life, that same muscle you're going to use to help somebody else. So that's how I wanna place that as a challenge before each of us and keep your faith strong so that you can be available to minister to people when they come. The next step here connected to this about faith is take the time to establish people in the word of God. So take the time to do that. Right here, you can see in verse two and verse five and Paul is saying, he says, by the hearing of faith, the understanding is like he spoke to them first. He brought the word to them, which built faith and they could then receive. So take the time to teach people how to receive by faith, take the time to teach people how to walk by faith. So the ultimate thing is, hey, they need to know how to do this. They need to know how to receive from God. Yes, I can pray for them by the anointing of God with faith and they can receive. But then you and I are not gonna be there every moment of their coming days. So they need to know how they can receive by faith in God. So a great thing, a good thing to do is to teach people. Here's how you can receive by faith. Here's how you can walk by faith. So let's read these scriptures for Corinthians chapter two, verse five, you see Paul's motivation there. Verse Corinthians two and verse five. So we could read that for us, please. First Corinthians chapter two, verse five says that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God, amen. Yeah, so Paul was talking about his ministry. He says, you know, when we came, our preaching was not with, you know, persuasive words of human wisdom, but as in demonstration of the power of God, what was he trying to achieve? He says, I want your faith to be in God, the power of God, not in our words or our abilities. So we want people's faith to be placed in God. And so whatever you can do to encourage that, you teach them the word, you teach them how to have faith in God. So ultimately their faith must be in God, not in the man, not in the man's anointing. I mean, it's good that we are, you know, we are anointed and, you know, God uses us and we can pray in faith, all of it is fine. But we want people's faith to be placed in God, in the power of God. Their faith must be there in God. So that when we move out of the way, they can still learn how to receive from God, right? So that's how we work. So take the time to do that, right? It may mean sometimes that you sit down and you open the scriptures and say, hey, let me, you know, in the case of healing, let me share the word of God with you on healing. This is why you and I can believe God for healing. See, most people just want us to rave a magic wand and make healing happen. They think, okay, you come and lay your hands on me and healing will be done or just do this and healing will happen. There are times we will see in the other keys. God moves sovereignly, God moves by His presence, God moves by, you know, the gifts of the spirit those are all part of the keys. We are open to it, but the best thing to do is to say, hey, let me take you to the word of God. Let me show you why you can believe God for your healing. Right? So what we're doing, we are placing their faith not in the anointing you and I carry, not in the faith you and I can exercise, but we are helping them place their faith in God. And that's the best thing we can do in ministering the supernatural, right? Get people to place their faith in God because when you and I are not around, maybe, you know, some months later, they may need to believe God for something else. Maybe they need to believe God for their own healing. They don't have to call you. They don't have to send you a prayer request. They will know how they can have faith in God themselves. So keep this in mind. I'm not saying this the only way God will work, but I'm saying faith is an important key. And if you and I can help people learn how to have faith in God, we are really putting the key in their hands rather than them coming to us all the time that they can believe God and they will see things happen. Okay. And just a few more thoughts connected to that. Me, yeah. So while we teach people to receive my faith, to walk my faith, we also, you know, keep them open to the sovereign or the supernatural encounter with God's presence. So there is a balance, right? That while I'm saying, hey, this is how you have faith in God, also be open to the more of the spirit. And I remember this happened, maybe, of course, this was before the pandemic. So I forget which year, but one of the years before the pandemic, there's a lady in the church who she went to the doctor and the doctor said, you've got a lump in your breast. And, you know, we have to do the biopsy and all of those things to find out what's going on. Now, there was going to be a worship night happening and this was at one of our locations where they were having a worship night. It was, we call it Bangalore South, that means so. So in Bangalore, we have five locations. So one of the locations, Bangalore South. Now, this lady was actually part of our central congregation, but, you know, so this had happened. But the Bangalore South was having a worship night. A worship night is just a night where, you know, we're not doing, there's no preaching of the word, nothing. It's just us coming together for worship, just worship. But she and her husband, now they didn't have to do this, right? They drove intentionally from where they lived, a different part of town. They drove intentionally to South, to be at the worship night. And her expectation was simply this, I'm expecting to be healed in the presence of God. Okay, so I'm sharing this because there is this dimension to faith as well, right? So on the one side that is, okay, the word of God and, you know, believe the promise. But we must also learn how by faith to tap into the presence. So that's what this lady was doing, right? Or when to do. So she and her husband drove to the worship night. She had come from the doctor. Doctor said, this is a thing. You know, we have to do a biopsy, whatever. She went to the worship night. With the expectation, God, I'm going to be in your presence. And I want to be healed because there's healing in your presence. So I've been emphasizing, you know, faith and the word of God. But I'm just saying, this is the other side. You must also awaken people too. That there's faith in the presence of God, the supernatural move of God. So she went there. And nobody knows when. Sometime in that two hours of worship, and it was just worship, right? Sometime in that two hours of worship, her, the growth disappeared. Nobody laid hands. Nobody, nobody, there was no preaching of the word. There was no like specific prayer or anything. So what happened? Faith, God's presence. Okay, so while we teach people, the primary thing is faith in God through his word. Okay, this is the promise. Your will is involved. You must believe the promise. And this is how you exercise your faith in God. You teach them, you know, the steps of Abraham. And this is how Abraham believed the promise of God. And all that is important. But at the same time, he must also teach people that, hey, God works by his word, but also God works other ways. He works by his, the gifts of the spirit. He works through his manifest presence. So healing can come through his word, but healing can also come through the gifts of the spirit, you know, through words of knowledge and gifts of healings and all of that. And healing can come also to the manifest presence of God. That means when you are in the presence of God, you are connecting with God, your faith is in the power of God and his presence brings healing. Okay, so I'm just expanding what I had been saying, that is the emphasis, having faith in the word of God, but also open people up to these other dimensions or the other ways, which we will talk about these in the coming weeks, open them up to these other dimensions of the presence of God. That in the presence of God, healing can happen, deliverance can happen, needs can be met, all right? So open people up to that aspect as well. The key is to teach them how to have faith in the word of God, teach them the steps of faith, which we have learned from Romans 4, 17 to 21, the steps of faith. This is how we exercise faith in God, but at the same time be open to receiving healing from God's presence, okay? Okay, yeah, so we just quickly look at a couple of verses there on healing from the presence of God. I'll just share a few quick verses. Look five, verse 17, somebody can read that. I'll just give a few verses. So look five, verse 17, somebody. Look five, 17. On one of those days, as he was teaching, Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there who had come from every village of Galilee and Judea and from Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was with him to heal. So, you know, the people I gathered here, it says the, I think the, yeah, look fast and it says, so, you know, there are all these people in the room. It says, the power of the Lord was present to heal. So of course it's talking about the presence of God, the anointing of God over there. Now let's just look at a few more verses. I'll just mention this quickly. Malachi four and verse two. It says, Malachi four, verse two. It says, to you who fear my name, the son of righteousness will arise with healing in his wings. Malachi four too. So it's drawing a picture of God as the son and his, you know, the sun shines. The sun gives his rays and it says, he will arise with healing in his wings. Another scripture is Habakkuk chapter three and verse four, you know, it's talking about the brightness of God's presence. He Habakkuk three, verse four. His brightness was like the light. He had rays flashing from his hand and there his power was hidden. So it's talking about the brightness of God, the light of God's presence. And in that light, his power is present, right? So that means he's just talking about the presence of God as light, as powerful light. But what is in that light is power. His power is there in that presence. And the last passage would be, I really like this passage is Psalm 132 verses 13 to 18. Psalm 132 verses 13 to 18. It's talking about God dwelling, right? God dwelling among his people. So that's the presence of God. How does God dwell among us by his presence, right? And while he is dwelling amongst us, he's going to bless us. What's he gonna do? He says in verse 15, I will provide for them. I will clothe them verse 16. I will clothe them with salvation. And salvation is a comprehensive word which includes healing, which includes deliverance and so on. They will shout aloud for joy. So in the presence of God, regardless is dwelling. There is provision, there is healing. And as you read the rest of the verses, you will see there is victory, there is revelation, and there is triumph over the enemy. So Psalm 132, 13 to 18 is like, God is dwelling, his presence is resting. And in his presence, God does these things, right? He provides, he heals, he delivers, he brings joy. He brings strength, he brings revelation. He causes people to triumph over all of that. So just these different verses that show that in the presence of God, where God dwells, where there is this light, where he rises up with things, there is healing. Is it okay, Ben? So, yeah, so to sum up this key on faith, we can apply this for us personally, but we're talking about ministering to people. First, see if they really want it. Their will must be involved. If they come saying, Pastor, if God wants to give it to me, it's okay, you pray for me. That's it. You know, no, no, your will must be involved. What do you want God to do for you? Do you really want God to do this? Do you really want God to heal you? Do you really want God to deliver you? Do you really want God to intervene? I mean, is your will aligned to his promise, right? Second, make sure you are in a place of faith, right? As a minister of God, you have to be in a place of faith when you're ministering. So the best thing to do is to keep yourself ready to minister. Third, is encourage their faith with the word of God. Show them how to exercise faith and take some time to share the scriptures, meditate in the word, hear the word of God. And many times, you know, if you're in a congregational setting, many times, you know, people receive their healing, people receive their miracle just by hearing the word. You know, why? Because when you're ministering the word and giving them the promise, it connects in their spirit, they believe it, they will receive their healing, okay? But as a minister of God, take the time to build their faith, give them the word, even though they may want you to just do some, you know, quick thing, you're looking at the long term, how can they receive, you know, learn to receive from God? So take the time to do it. Get them to put their faith in God, not in the anointing on you, not in the gifts in you, not in you as a pastor or a preacher or a minister or whatever. Get them to put their faith in God, right? And exercise their faith in God. So that's a major part of the key of faith. That's why we minister to the word week after week. We teach God's people the word of God. Why? Because we want them to learn how they can have faith in God for life's situations. While you're doing that, also encourage people by saying that, look, there are other ways God heals. There are gifts of spirit. We will talk about those things, okay? There are the gifts of spirit. There is the presence of God. There is the anointing, the flow of the anointing be open to that. So let people understand that there are more than one ways in which, one way in which their miracle can come to them. And sometimes God may choose to touch them in a way that's different, right? Meaning through the presence of God, meaning through a gift of the spirit or through the flow of his anointing, right? So that way they are being opened. The faith is in God, but they're open to more than one way in which God's healing can come to them, okay? I will pause now on the second key. So we covered two keys. One is to don't understand the realm of the spirit. Second is the key of faith, right? So we're talking about how you can get that key to operate when you're ministering to people, okay? I'll pause here and we'll take any questions on this. That's a little garden, can you steal on this? Yes, any questions on this? Okay. All right, so let's close. If there are no questions, we will close. I just want to pray together and pray that God will use each one of us as vessels of honor that we will be vessels that will bring forth the supernatural into the lives of people that people can experience and encounter God awfully supernaturally, okay? I just want somebody to lead us in that prayer along that line, just to pray for all of us that God would use us to release his supernatural work in the lives of people. Can somebody lead us in prayer for that please? Then we will dismiss. Can we cast out demons if we are not physically there? All right, we have a question. The answer is yes, but we can do that, you know, when we're not physically present, we can mention, I have mentioned on the phone, and it's kind of interesting this happened some time back. You know, we have a church in Orissa. We have a church in Orissa where the pastor's there. And one day they brought this person whose demon possessed there, and the pastor was ministering, of course, but he decided to call me. And when he was going to pick up the phone to call, the demons are speaking and say, I know who you're going to call. You know, you're going to call your, I mean, they used local language to say your, you know, senior pastor would say. The demons are speaking. I know you're going to call. Don't call. So, but anyway, he did call and we prayed and ministered and that person was delivered. So this was, you know, down on the phone. And now there is no distance in the spirit. So in the spirit you speak and minister, and it doesn't matter if we are separated geographically. You speak words, whatever language and they will be ministered to. How do we speak to them? Since demons are fine. And yeah, so wherever they are operating, you're taking authority. And in the realm of the spirit, there is no distance. And you speak to that person, persons, for that situation. And you deal with those demonic powers that way. Okay. Yeah. So they are in that physical location or in that individual who may be, you know, many, many miles or just kilometers away. They are there, but in the spirit, you're operating in the spirit. There is no distance and you can rebuke those spirits. Okay. Anita, is that a question, Anita? Psalm 31, is healing and deliverance? Is that a question? Pastor Wood, if I say that, I just wanted to know if the interpretation would be right. If I say it is healing and deliverance scripture. Also, or whether this scripture is talking about healing, let me just turn there. Psalm 31, for you are my strength. And to your hand, I commit my spirit. You have redeemed me, oh Lord God of truth. And to your hand, I commit my spirit. I'm not sure. Personally, I don't see it as such. Psalm 31, verse five. And to your hand, I commit my spirit. You have redeemed me, oh God of truth. I mean, I know the Lord Jesus prayed, oh Lord, into your hands, I come in my spirit. But I don't see that, Anita. In Psalm 31, verse five. The promise for healing. Now, when to your hand, I come in my spirit. You have redeemed me, or maybe from that. You have redeemed me, oh Lord God of truth. Into your hand, I commit my spirit. So I'm saying, Lord, I'm committing my spirit to you. You have redeemed me, oh Lord God of truth. Redemption could be being set free from anything. In this case, I guess you can apply it to sickness, disease, or any other situation. Is that how you were thinking? Yeah, I was looking at it from the point of view of the person whom you told her testimony. Like if she goes in the worship presence of God. Like if she says that, yes, I'm committing myself into your hands, my spirit. You will redeem me from this. That's what I've meant. I see, okay. Yeah, I think that's fine. So you have something to say? It's fine, but I still see it more primarily as a prayer of protection. From the dangers that the enemy puts ahead of us to box us somewhere and to take our lives or something like that. But it can still be used in the sense of deliverance. But primarily, I think this is more like a prayer of protection over yourself or it could be for someone else. Yeah, that's the way I see it. Good, good, good. All right, I'm looking at Beth. If the human is not speaking to you, they are far away, no connection with one or anything. I see. So Beth, if the human is not speaking to you and they are far away, let no connection with one. Yes, Beth, I believe that can happen. When we look at Jesus and the way he ministered, example, quickly with examples, when you think about the Roman sanctuary servant, when you think about the Kenanite woman's daughter, she was troubled by demons. The Roman sanctuary servant was paralyzed. So we don't know the real cause of the paralysis. Now these are all at a distance, right? Jesus was in one place. These people who were ill or who were demon possessed were in a different place. And he just spoke the word. He said, you know, go your way. You know, according to your faith be done for you. And the daughter was at home, troubled. Jesus had no connection with her in the sense that he was not talking to her or anything, but she was delivered. So the answer to your question is yes. And there are times, I mean, many of times we pray like that when I know of a situation where, so I might just pray. I may not even call the person, but I might pray over that situation. But we are doing this exact thing, which is we are in one location and we are dealing with the situation somewhere else. Yes. Yeah, so Jesus spoke to the demon, but here he did not. Yeah, we don't have a record of him doing that, but I guess it's the faith that was involved. And, you know, the miracle happened because somebody was in faith, the Roman Sancturian, the Kenanite woman, and the person was delivered. Now, we don't know exactly. Maybe Jesus did speak. It's just not recorded for us. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but somebody was in faith and the deliverance took place. Yeah. Can a demonized person's vision and prophecy can be from the Holy Spirit? Sri Kumar's question. Can a demonized person's vision and prophecy can be from the Holy Spirit? Can the Holy Spirit work through somebody who's demon possessed? Okay, see, normally it will not be so, right? If a person is demon possessed, it's the evil spirit speaking through that person. And so we will not expect that. Yeah, watch it, go ahead, Sri Kumar. Pastor Ritva, no, it's not a demon. She's a demonized liquor. Whenever the worship happens, some very rare cases, she used to push us also, but in some cases when she's in worship, she used to see visions and she prophesies also. So that's my doubt that handle prophecies and visions are accurate, but many times when the in worship or in certain situations, she used to scream and she says that she's somebody's trying to chalk her, she get into a stage of depressions and that also apparently happening. So I just want to know that, but many times when she's in like under the anointing, she used to see, she used to prophesy, she prophesied, she speaks in tongues and her visions, the prophecies are accurate. So that's why I just have a doubt that how we can see this thing and how we can analyze that whether it is from, like a person is, what she's saying seems to be right and it's right. People say that what she's telling is right, but in many cases, sometimes she also get, even at home when she may be in the night, midnight, she screams and all, and she get into very like, or she feels that she's, something is shocking her and she get into depression. So in that case, how we can take, take her prophecies and visions, even it is right. So how I should, or somebody should see, thank you boss. Yeah, yeah. So what you are describing is a real situation that means there is a believer. He or she is born again, loves Jesus, you know, maybe filled with the Holy spirit, speaking in tongues, reading the Bible, living as just as any other Christian. So they are born again, they are genuinely saved, but at the same time, there are areas in their lives where they are still affected by demonic powers and, you know, we understand it. So they will have that problem manifesting, right? But at the same time, they are saved. They love Jesus, but there are parts of their soul or their body where they are troubled, affected, you know, and yeah, we've seen cases that way. So to answer your question, yes, the Holy spirit is dwelling in them and the Holy spirit will manifest through them. And those things we can take when the Holy spirit is moving through them, we can receive it. But at the same time, we need to help them overcome those areas where they are still struggling. And usually, usually, I'm not saying all the time, but usually when people come from deeply spiritual backgrounds, you know, they've been worshiping gods and goddesses and those kinds of things. And they come, you know, they come to Christian faith, you'll find this kind of a problem where they have generally accepted Christ, they're born again, fill the Holy spirit, water baptized, serving in church, but then suddenly they have certain areas where they are troubled by demonic spirits. They will have manifestations as though they're demon-possessed, they're not demon-possessed, they're just demonized or being troubled. And so the answer to your question is yes, when they're really generally manifesting under the Holy spirit, by the spirit, you can, you know, encourage them, receive them. But then we need to work with them to, you know, see the deliverance happen in those areas where they are struggling. And this is not because they're demon-possessed, they're just struggling, demonized in maybe part of the soul or part of the body for various reasons, yeah. So we can receive. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you. All right, Avani, if you have a question, we'll take it and then we're going to pray and I see Rosa's prayer request, yeah. Yes, you have a question? Yes, my question, actually I had two, but I'll first start with when deliverance takes place, is it important that it will show some physical manifestation or it can be a very quiet deliverance also? So the answer is yes. In fact, a lot of deliverances happen very quietly. So in the church services, you know, a lot of deliverances actually happen, because why the word of God is being ministered and prayers are being made and demons leave quietly. People don't know, but they see the fruit. That means now they experience freedom, they see that there's victory in certain areas of life. So the answer is yes. Okay, and is religious spirit an evil spirit, Pastor? Yes, so there are evil spirits that operate in the realm of religion. Paul mentions about this in several places. In 1 Timothy chapter four, he talks about, you know, in the latter days, the Holy Spirit is saying that men will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons. So there are demons behind these spiritual teachings. So they're religious spirits. Paul also talks about in 2 Corinthians 11, he talks about, you know, messengers of Satan presenting themselves as angels of light, you know, so those demonic spirits appear in religious environments and so on. So the answer is yes. But their agenda is definitely to take people away from the faith, but they come in this manner, operating in this circle, the religious circle. Thank you, Pastor, one more question. What if someone wants the healing and you've been sharing Christ with them, but they're not interested to know about God, about love of God and Christ, but they want healing because they're suffering because of some, you know, very serious ailment. Suppose cancer, there's a friend of mine who's an unbeliever. She comes from a different faith. She wants healing, but she doesn't want to hear about Jesus and believe in Jesus, but she wants the healing. She doesn't want to pray with, but she wants to be prayed for. So in that case, how should we help them out? Yeah, that's an interesting situation. I would just do this. You know, I would tell her, look, I'm praying in the name of Jesus. I'm going to pray for you in the name of Jesus. It's Jesus Christ who's going to heal you. And when you're healed, know that he's the one who healed you. Right? And you just pray. The new minister, you know, you don't hold back. You know, if you look at the ministry of Jesus, so many people came to him for healing. We all, we don't know whether, I mean, whether they all came with the right heart and right motive. In fact, the sixth chapter of John says, you know, Jesus saw that all who came left, you know, all these people who came, they are the ones who received healing. They are the ones who ate the fire, you know, the loaves and the fish. They had everything. And then when he started teaching them, they all left. And then Jesus turns around to his 12 disciples and says, are you also going to go away? You know, so what an interesting, what a situation. You know, all these people, they had received their healing. They saw the miracles, but when Jesus started teaching them, they left. So the answer is, you know, let's minister to people, let's pray for them. With the intent that God, through the miracle, maybe their heart will be changed and they will come to Jesus. You know, so you don't hold back, you still pray, still minister, and you know, if they receive the miracle, then it may be an opportunity for them to turn to the Lord. Yeah. Okay. Let's pray. Are we going to close in prayer? So we're going to pray for two things. One is just to pray for all of us that we will be used by God in the supernatural. And then we're going to pray for Rose's daughter, Rikof, and everything, clear and in Jesus. Thank you. Okay, Rose, what's her name? You can just call her name out and pray. Davy, pastor, Davy. DAVUI. DAVUI, Davey. DAVUI, Davey. DAVUI, okay. All right, let's just all pray together before we dismiss. I'll just pray. Father V, thank you for this time where we could share, discuss, learn, and pray for the most of all, for the stirring up of the gifts of God, for the stirring up of the anointing of God, the moving of your spirit upon each of our lives, that we will be vessels of honor who will display your supernatural power that brings healing, brings deliverance, brings miracles in the lives of many people. May each of us be such kind of vessels. And Father, right now we pray over Davy in the name of Jesus. We take authority over every affliction over her breathing, over her of a cough or respiratory infection. We command irritation. We command that to leave that healing flow right now. That healing flow right now. And Davy, be healed. In the name of Jesus, be healed, be well. We thank you, Father, in Jesus' name. Amen. God bless you all. Thank you, you know, we've taken a big set of time. God bless you. God bless you, Pastor. Thank you. Welcome everyone. Thank you. God bless, thank you. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Harrison. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Prabhakar. God bless you. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Rose. Thank you, Siddhant. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Pastor. You love the district. And it's Pratik, Loi, Salami. God bless you, each one of you. See you again.