 defensively. There's a much larger police presence too. I mean, I do see some police over there again. The undilatrous worship of guns has eroded the ability and the willingness of decision-makers to enact common sense. The community protecting laws that can restrict access to guns for people who common sense tells us should not have them. The undilatrous worship of guns clouds the ability of lawmakers to envision communities as places where people work out their problems and conflicts verbally instead of shooting them out with guns. How many more lives will be sacrificed on the altar of irresponsibly easy access to guns including assault rifles? How many more students, stoppers, worshipers, and employees will be sacrificed on the altar of absentee leadership? Yeah I got kind of a weird setup here right now. I make sure I'm going here. So yeah so what are you here for and like what what is it you want to see done as far as laws passed or I see you want to tighten Ohio gun laws. Which laws would you tighten? Well right now there's a whole bunch of important laws in front of the legislature to expand background checks to to what else to to to the red flag law etc. So there's a whole bunch of important laws. I've just done with with mass shootings. I was born and raised in Dayton and it was like getting punched in the gut the other day. I personally think that assault rifles should no longer be made or sold and the ammunition to them should no longer be sold because they're they're not a weapon used in hunting nor nor worthy of private individual protection. Well are you talking about like an automatic like an assault rifle fully automatic? Sure well they're not fully they're semi-automatic. Okay I mean semi-automatic is one cool trigger one shot which is what most guns are whether it be a pistol or a rifle or well yeah the only other option would be a three three burst three round burst which again is with an assault rifle you can't get that on a on a regular what you would call an assault weapon is what most people are usually referring to but I'm referring to a military style weapon I guess one of the differences with them is that when the bullet hits a person it starts to tumble and it goes in like a little hole and it comes out as big as your fist and it jumbles everything in between. Well I mean depending on your shotgun ammo your pistol your revolver. I'm not here to argue particulars like this I'm not here to argue those kind of particulars there's no there's no good point to military style weapons in civilian hands. So we've already limited we've already limited machine guns fully automatic weapons we've already qualified the second amendment that much we can go one step further and go back and and ban this other type of semi-automatic weapon. So when you say assault weapon like what all guns are you talking about? AR-15s, AK-47s, I'd like to see big magazines banned also. Okay. No point in those, no point in those except mass murder. I mean do you know that and then and then among other people that think that somehow our government's gonna attack them someday. No they will not that's what doesn't make any sense here. Well what do you think about Trump? I I'm not a fan. You're not worried about him at all? I'm not gonna I'm not gonna defeat him with an AR. I will defeat him at the ballot box in 2020. Well I mean do you agree with what the media says that he's basically a dictator and waiting in a white suit? No no no no I don't think the media says that that's that's way too broad that's way too broad. I think the standard media gives Mr. Trump a fair chance. And which media would this be? This would be CBS this would be the New York Times the Washington Post. You know our Columbus dispatch is a moderate Republican paper and they had the balls to to endorse Hillary Clinton. Well I mean did you know that most shootings most mass shootings even are done with revolvers with pistols not with assault weapons not with rifles. Seems like all the ones with the really high body guns are good. Well the ones that you hear about the ones that the media chooses to really put out there. The ones that don't choose like in Chicago over last weekend it was like 57 people shot just in one weekend. Right and that those are mass shootings but you don't ever they are. Right right. Oh absolutely some of these shootings in Chicago of the 10 people shot but if you look into it they actually don't count those in the statistics when they talk about mass shootings in this country. They don't need that's not even part of it. They're not even counting that. I think that all you're going to end up doing is making American citizens less safe and you're going to criminalize American people who are just normal everyday people maybe who just want to defend their home you know for self-defense. Well we're not talking about automatic weapons so automatic weapons aren't even aren't even a part of the discussion. No no it's not a word game man it's not. There's a huge difference between one trigger one pull and holding down the trigger and getting a spray. That's automatic. Nobody can get an automatic weapon. I mean but if you're out here shouldn't you know that don't you think if you're spreading information. And I've said enough to you. I've said enough to you sir. I appreciate your time though. You seem kind of angry. Because because because you're trying to go into all these little details. These are facts. Oh you know what they're they're inconvenient to what you're doing. No they're not. No they're not. They're nitpicking. It's time to get assault weapons off the streets. Right well when you say that you mean I'm done sir. I'm done sir. Okay well thank you for your time. Thank you. So yeah they're spreading a lot of misinformation at this thing. The speakers up there keep talking about assault rifles. There's no assault rifles. Yeah you call it nitpicking. You call it nitpicking. It's disinformation. Hi David how you doing? Good. So I know David he's an old customer of mine and I just happened to see you out here. I just wanted to get your feelings on this and just what you think about it. So what are you here for? Are you here with the church? I am here with the church the United Church of Christ and in support of a way that we can be together as human community that really builds for common sense safety. And I have this firm belief that there's too much either or thinking in this conversation and that we need to as the speakers today are alluding to saying develop a common sense approach to our whole way of thinking about the rule of guns in our society. It doesn't have to be an all or nothing. And I think that's a great goal. I mean I'd like to be able to like talk with people. There's a lot of hostility like when I talk to some of you and you know I would like to see that go away because we're not going to move anywhere otherwise. We're just going to be at each other's throats. I mean as far as this goes I've heard a lot of just some of the speakers saying things that I know are objectively not true just based on statistics and things like that. I mean do you think that I mean if we want to bring people together do you think that that's the best way to for example I'll give you an example. This idea that the black community here in Columbus is under assault from the police. I mean if you look at the statistics that's not at all the kids and not at all. And I just wonder is this is this really helpful? So I would want to say we have to find a language that can get to the root core of the realities of people experience. Right. I do think that it's easy to ignore the meaning of others. And we need to find ways to tend that game not just in a simple way but in ways that can actually make for change. To get at the root cause, you know, the intersection of poverty, violence, and these things are complicated. Yeah, absolutely. That's another thing is that I think all these these are all issues that have to be addressed, right? But they're way more complicated than what's being how it's being presented. Like it's very black and white here where it's actually a lot more complicated than that. Like every time a cop shoots a black anytime a cop has to shoot anybody it's bad. But is it always I mean is it ever justified? I mean I would think sometimes maybe even the majority of time it is justified. But it's treated as though if it happens it's wrong, you know. And I think that sort of black and white isn't helping. I mean that because that's gonna you might it might play to the base. But if you're trying to get people in the middle or even on the right there's no way, you know. Yeah, I'm not maybe we should stop here. Oh, okay. Not really because a lot of people on that side of the bait use that language and it's just not right. And if you're gonna go taking people's rights from them you should at least know like what you're talking about. Don't you think? No. Right, they think machine gun. They think spray and machine guns. That's not even people can't get those. So you know who can get those actually? If you look in LA and like the gang warfare there they get automatic weapons because they they're not getting they don't care about the laws. I mean what do you think about the amount of people that are actually saved every year by guns up to three million? Well it's true the Barack the Obama administration actually commissioned the study that came up with that number. So you can google it. I suggest you do. So anyway, I do appreciate your time. I do. I really do. Are you from here from Columbus? No. Okay. Okay. Cool. Well I appreciate your time. I do. So I know I've talked to a lot of the people here with science. I know you guys are here for the increased background check and stuff and you know I don't necessarily disagree with all that but like something I would want to ask just to kind of gauge where people are at. You might have saw I think it was San Diego or San Francisco where they just declared the NRA a terrorist organization. Yes. Would you agree with that? Yes. Definitely. So you would agree with basically making half of the American population. Not half but a pretty sizable amount basically terrorists. I mean members of the NRA would they be terrorists? What company do you represent? I have a YouTube channel DroneTechPolitics. I'm sorry? I have a YouTube channel DroneTechPolitics. What's it called again? DroneTechPolitics. I'm an Air Force veteran and I have like a media... Interesting. How in the half of the nation where do you get your fingers? Well I kind of checked myself there and said not quite half obviously because not half the country is a member of the NRA but I mean they have millions and millions of members that are American citizens law abiding American citizens. You know what they agree with this if you look at your facts the NRA members of the NRA so we have people leading the NRA they're making money somehow illegally that needs to be investigated it's got Trump's ear but this uh members of the NRA and my husband and I are gun owners if you want to know that uh so you don't get all I'm like I'm not being hostile it's okay all right well they did declare them a terrorist group right and people who are members of the NRA will then basically be terrorists right I'm just maybe they want to consider their membership if they're not doing what they've asked them to do okay because the population supports the background checks making us safer. And so do you do you agree with like what Beto said he would want to do like straight up confiscations? I'm sorry who's what? Beto, Robert, Francis, Democrat candidate. I don't know what he's saying. I don't know what you're talking about. Okay yeah during the last debate the Democrat debate he was asked if he would confiscate guns he said hell yes I'll confiscate your guns. No. Okay. No. Why would we do that? Okay that's good. We're just asking that people be licensed just like it is to drive. Right. I can't even fly in the country now without having my driver's license updated but anybody could go out and buy a gun from anybody and in this state we need to have universal background checks. The states in our work can empower us to change personal rights and laws. License and I also agree with banning assault weapons. You don't need an assault weapon to go deer hunting or whatever which my family does. They do all kinds of things. Well I mean you know a hunting rifle is an assault weapon. It's not a military assault weapon where you can kill what's the difference? 30 people in less than a minute. What's the difference between a hunting rifle and an AR-15? Because it takes time to recock things. No no you can put magazines in. I really want to check out. I hope you um. Well I'm just I'm just saying I'm not trying to be combat if I'm just saying that that is the fact. Which it is. Uh-huh. I think you should have come last week to the other rally. I did. I did. Good for you. I was here. I don't support I don't think anybody that is against all this. Well you know most shootings. Most mass shootings are done with revolvers. Semi-automatic revolvers. Excuse me. Look at Dan. Yeah. Explain to every revolver. Yeah that's one shooting but the the the great majority the vast majority of shootings are done with revolvers. So you don't care that those people died? No I do. Evidently not. Evidently not. Just get rid of the military assault weapons. What's such a big edge yeah. What makes a military? No military uses that gun. I think I've had my discussion with you. Okay well thank you for your time and I do appreciate it. I don't think anybody should talk to you and I'm gonna have to deal with people then. That's a is that the kind of country we live in if you guys were running it? Don't talk to people who would disagree with you or who have facts that you don't agree with. I'm here because I'm very upset about people dying and you are in my face and upsetting me. Okay. You don't know anything about me actually. Weird. Well that's pretty much the response I've gotten out here. As soon as you start correcting the things you're saying that are not true. Excuse me. While everybody assembled I didn't get to speak on my nephew and there was one person who come all the way from out of town. It will be like 30 seconds 30 seconds. Yeah as soon as you start refuting the things they say they get really upset and they think you're up to something. You're a bad person. Thanks for watching. If you want to support this channel please consider subscribing to me on Patreon or subscribe star. 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