 Go to dailytechnewshow.com slash life and watch the show Churros, let's be what bring your own churros B. Y. Oh churros B. Y. B. Y. O. C. I had a gingerbread man yesterday And that made me happy because I like gingerbread. Oh, I do too. I mean you had him like you ate him. Yes I said I had a sandwich would you say the same thing? Oh, yeah, but there's no man in sandwich There's a witch like I had a man witch All right, that's maybe the best almost time for the show moment I've ever experienced Anyway, it was a very delicious cookie Made by a man made by a man a ginger man I always feel bad eating them. It's too human like oh, I eat the head first just to like just to be like Yeah, let's just get that out of the way No, I guess that's the humane thing to do. Yeah, that's why that's how I feel you want to do it like a saddam son Where do you start with the feet first? Screen now am I Dreaming or was that a real like children's story like the gingerbread man? Run run gingerbread man. Yeah, you're right. I totally forgot about that Run as fast as you can and I think that was sort of like Is it the fox or whatever that gets him because he was riding on its back, I don't know I don't remember enough about it only that like there was something really morbid about the whole yeah So the whole thing about fairy tales and nursery rhymes and like that is because I've watched those Shrek movies They're kind of twisted in with the way they did the movie where yes, John Lithgow's characters torturing the gingerbread man slowly Okay, Sarah, could you read the cold open today? I could but will I will you? Yes, I will Not that's we're supposed to yeah Well, I needed to check if she was capable first then once we determine that Physically capable and willing. Oh Sorry vine tube update boop boop boop. He wrote me back. He said I got pranked. He's somebody No Fake Sent him that image. Yeah. Well, no, he got he got an app through what's it called again, Tom test pilot That's pilot that is just a funny bologna app because you don't have to do that through the app store You can send something just loads and then it was like a John Cena thing and it was fake. All right. Well now We know yeah All right Ready Sarah Lane. I am three two Daily tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to daily tech news show dot-com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday December 6 2017 from DTNS headquarters in Los Angeles I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline at the beach. I'm Sarah Lane. I am Scott Johnson from the coldest It's been this year so far. It's all like it comfortably inside his warm chair Not on a roof Roger Chang It is I not on the roof. That was this morning You were actually out of roof this morning. We're trying was by over We are going to dig into the idea of Bitcoin and how much power does it use and is that bad for us in a little bit? But let's start with a few tech things you should know HQ the trivia app announced on Twitter that its app will come to Android on Christmas Day December 25th The app has tens of thousands of players a day sometimes more despite being limited to iOS currently Number seems low. Doesn't it? Tens of thousands. I've seen hundreds of thousands anyway, I have to I think they're averaging that's But I know they must be over time research firm Magna reports it estimates 209 billion Dollars that's billion with a B spent on digital advertising in 2017 41% of the market passing up TV for the first time which revealed 178 billion in spending for 25% of the ad market TV ad spending grew slightly but digital grew much faster Yeah, really bad news for print. This is what that is But that's a milestone passing TV ads for the first time and Google is using machine learning in pivot tables on Google sheets To suggest pivot tables it can make for users who don't know what pivot tables are Based on the data in the spreadsheet No more having to go to your pivot table guru for this anymore and those who know know that that's a real thing It also has the ability to answer natural language questions So you could just write how much revenue does each product category generate and it should be able to give you an answer Great, this is huge for people who use spreadsheets. I'm just saying I'm sure it is but it's enough to I mean I needed a nap later anyway, so I want to thank you for that particular article All right, I mean I use spreadsheets every day and I'm still not sure what any of this means but Sheets have always been a mystery to me ask your local spreadsheet guru Now here are some more top stories Scott Microsoft has made its stylus friendly collaboration tool whiteboard Out and available for public preview the app allows real-time sharing of drawings photos and graphs on any Windows 10 system Any Windows 10 user can download whiteboard, but to save work to the cloud You're gonna need a Microsoft account and to collaborate with a group at least one member must be an office 365 Subscriber so there are two caveats there I'm actually pretty excited about this because I think whiteboard in its various incarnations It has been really cool And this is the first time where I feel like people get some actual practical on the ground use out of it All right Well, there's more good news this time coming from Amazon Amazon Prime videos Apple TV app is now rolling out to Canadians folks in the UK and the US and several other regions across Europe Prime subscribers can sign into their accounts watch Amazon Prime exclusive TV series and a collection of movies, of course The app can play Amazon's 4k video and also hooks into Apple TV Recommendations the app users can also tell Apple TV's Siri remote to search for Amazon content from inside the app as well That's a nice touch. I downloaded it first thing this morning. I took it for a spin. It plays videos Yeah, no, it was the only reason I regularly used my Roku Not that I don't like my Roku, but just because I didn't feel like switching back and forth everything else is pretty much being done on my Apple TV at this point. So All the mall in my house, I spent a lot of time air playing When I when I'm specifically needing something from them And then I forget I'm doing that and use my phone for something else to look up something And while something's playing and realize I'll know I've interrupted the playback and everyone in the room is like What's going on and so this will be a nice way to get that content not worry about it But it does feel like a hell froze over moment a little bit They seem like we were never gonna get this and that old feud who just fester and fester but Finally, yeah, I think Tim Cook originally announced. Hey, this is happening about six months ago So I guess they you know within the year they made good on there. They made it. Yeah with weeks to spare. I I Think this is going to be huge because of that part about Amazon hooking into the TV recommendations app I have found myself going from being skeptical saying I don't see why that apps any good To using it regularly because of the things I'm watching on Hulu for the most part But other things are showing up there as well And now that Amazon is going to show up there if I start using Apple TV to watch Amazon Which I do for for lots of shows Suddenly I'm going to be relying on that to tell me what to watch I'm going to forget what services I have and I have found myself forgetting that I was watching things on Netflix because Netflix isn't yet Plugged into that TV app. So that's another interesting aspect of this. Sure Yahoo holdings and Yahoo owner oath if you remember Verizon by Yahoo Then combine Yahoo with AOL and named the new combination oath So oath filed a complaint against Mozilla last week alleging an improper termination of an agreement between Mozilla and Yahoo Mozilla has now filed a cross complaint claiming oath Yahoo Had a breach of contract themselves Mozilla announced it would return to Google as its default search provider when it launched the Firefox quantum browser back last month mid-November and They get to do that apparently according to recode the Yahoo Mozilla deal includes terms That says if Yahoo is acquired by anybody which they have been then That company would be required to pay Mozilla annual payments of 375 million through 2019 Even if Mozilla decided to walk away from their deal which Mozilla would get the right to do because of a change of ownership So Mozilla is saying we didn't like the terms that Verizon was bringing to the table through oath We walked away. Contra says you have to pay us cut and dry So if you sue us, we're gonna sue you right back According to this recode article, this was something that Marissa Mayer as CEO of Yahoo had, you know brokered this deal back in 2014 and You know, it was the sort of deal where you kind of go like that would be a bummed deal for Yahoo If it got acquired by a company that Mozilla isn't, you know, real crazy about But that in 2014 Yahoo didn't think this was going to happen So it was it was terms of a deal that have now, you know come to fruition and nobody's happy Yeah, I guess I have a question about that dollar amount $375 million just to Direct your browser to them as the default search engine. I don't know why that seems like such a wildly Disgusting amount of money. It was a revenue guarantee So the way it was supposed to work was Yahoo would never be acquired by anybody who would how would that happen? And so we will guarantee to pay you three hundred seventy five million dollars in revenue share No matter what the idea being we'll probably end up paying you more than three seventy five but if somehow the deal is so bad that it goes below three seventy five we won't pay you less and Also had this other implication of I guess if you walk away the deal because of change of control You still get the three seventy five for nothing. Yeah, well, they took an oath. So Mozilla didn't take the oath They rejected the oath and Now Verizon would like them to keep the oath. Yeah, there you go Well, if you're looking for a new place to work Perhaps you'll be interested in a new study from Glassdoor Glassdoor released its 10th annual employees choice awards Which ranks best companies to work for for the following year So this is for 2018 and Facebook has topped the list. In fact, it stopped the list again It ranked number one in 2011 2012 2013 and this year 2017 Airbnb didn't make the list at all this year, but it had the number one spot in 2016 Google was 2015 Twitter was 2014 And the list is based on employees who provide feedback to Glassdoor on their job Work environment and company via an anonymous survey and you know, just so it's not like five people from facebook Say and this is the best and and and the results being kind of skewed Apparently Glassdoor will only release the survey results after 1000 unique people have have provided anonymous data And I always look at this survey With the idea that if you were going to say something on Glassdoor anonymously, it's probably more likely to be negative than positive That's usually the way as people who have a complaint are more motivated to go Air that grievance than people who are like, hey, I think things are good Uh, so I think it's a big achievement to win this list. Also They put out the list For the next year. So facebook is the company to work for in 2018 Count going forward 2011 2012 2013 2017 so they they're on a roll here, although they missed a few years in there Uh for another year and this year, it's not just the tech top tech company. They're the top company company, right? Yeah, these are you know, I mentioned tech companies and and their rankings, but yeah, this is like Best company, you know again, according to a sample size of employees, but Knowing a lot of people who work at facebook or have worked there in some capacity over the years Um besides, you know, the luxury buses of shuttling people around and the fact that you do work on a big campus Whether or not that's your thing Most people I know have had, you know, pretty pleasant things to say about comfort of working there Good cafeteria, uh, you know I feel like I should disclose that my sister-in-law my wife's sister works for facebook But then I feel like i'm in danger of anything I say after that reflecting on her An opinion for which I do not know Right, uh, I would just give a quick shout out though to our friends over at blizzard entertainment They made number 28 on the list So uh, well done guys nice job one of the few video game companies on here Yeah, uh, it's funny that airbnb and twitter both pretty recently Uh at the at the top of these lists and now not on the list at all either one of them apple also I believe fell like 50 spots. It's in the 80s Yeah, I I believe that glass door Made this top 100 companies and it was like top 50 in the past So technically apple wouldn't have made the list either except that now it's there are more I think the craziest thing is that yahu is number 65 Yeah, well Yeah, oh It's still a better place to work than apple According to this ranking. So I don't know take that as you will Cantor world panels latest ranking of china's phone market shows some stability in the rankings Used to be from quarter to quarter You'd see a wholesale change in first place to fifth place new entrance popping up old entrance falling out But we're starting to see the same faces And for q3 the top five are huawei, xiaomi, apple, vivo and apo And the other indication that it's stabilizing is they now account for 91 of the market That's up from the top five accounting for 79 percent of the market at this time last year So it is consolidating huawei generally dominates the urban market Apo and vivo are focused on the rural retail market putting retail shops out in rural areas xiaomi still leads in online Though they've been staying in the top five by adding more retail presence as well So they're sort of straddling that world and apple's kind of locked up the luxury market If you're looking for that premium phone, it's an aspirational model. That's what apple is doing Interestingly samsung off this chart 2.2 percent. It's not that they're not in the market They just aren't doing a good job of selling in china I wonder why that would be like seems like samsung has got if if anyone's got the um the momentum the sort of I don't know what to call that, you know, they're kind of killing it everywhere else Why why they're struggling or not doing as well in china is uh strange to me I expect honestly of all these names I expected apple to be at the bottom just given the fact that it's Primarily, you know american centric and maybe european centric company and it didn't seem like Things would go well for them like it doesn't for microsoft in japan for gaming or You know some of these other companies just struggle in certain territories But seeing samsung way off the chart is is weird. Yeah I mean, you know off the cuff analysis. This is this could be entirely wrong I could see samsung Not being able to capture the luxury market for whatever reason and that and and they are a high-end phone But also not being able to capture the android market because Huawei Close to being as good of a phone as samsung, but at a cheaper price and a local company They could be caught in that mushy middle there where they they just kind of can't get any traction with any of these sectors Yeah Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com It is a way like five minutes or less. You're up to speed every day Don't have to feel bad if you miss an episode of dTNS because you stay up to date You can get it as a podcast on the amazon echo as a flash briefing on the google home and in the anchor app Go subscribe. Enjoy. And that's a look at our top stories All right, so yesterday scott you tweeted out A link to eric holthouse's article Uh bitcoin could cost us our clean energy future. It's not Uh a bad article. It's on grist.org But it it sort of takes some things as facts that are in a bit of a dispute So going from these high estimates of the amount of power it causes to mine bitcoin He then makes the argument that this could be bad for the climate It could be bad for sustainable energy Because it's going to make the power grid unstable So I went and looked around to find some good articles that really dug into how these estimates are made How much do we know about bitcoin mining? And I I found the good one If you want the short version of today's show go read wyards nicole kobe We have a link in the show notes. She has an article called how much energy does bitcoin mining really use It's an excellent article If you're wondering, okay. Well, why does bitcoin use a bunch of power at all? The simplistic version Is that computers When they mine bitcoins have to solve difficult math problems So so you you work and work and work to solve this math problem part of the result of that math problem Is the creation of the blockchain that allows everybody to have the ledger of who transacted what and if you're the first computer to solve it Uh, then you get the coin The faster computers solve the problems The harder the problems get to solve in order to keep the pace of new coins on a regular pace of issue, right? That means more powerful computers are needed in order to mine coins But it never really like speeds up the process No, no the idea is to keep the process like there's a bitcoin every so often and that's it Uh, and so if bitcoins are worth a lot of money and they keep going up in value Which they have been then you spend more money to throw more computer power Which then speeds up the processing which then makes the math harder to slow down the processing and keep the pace all right So back when I first started toying around with bitcoin in 2010 you could mine it on a desktop computer Uh, you can't can't do that anymore. Uh, in fact, you pretty much Why can't I understand that it's gotten more difficult But why couldn't you just do it and it would take a really long time because you'll lose I mean, yes, you can mine. You'll never Mine a coin because someone with these higher dedicated machinery Will always yeah It's like elon musk is there with his boring company and his giant thing that's digging through miles of of mountain and you're there with The company called boring and not really actually boring And you're just kind of like whacking at it with a with an ice pick and it's taken forever Yeah, that's a good analogy. Uh, so you need this dedicated machinery You need these high-end server like machines. Some people even have server farms just to mine bitcoin Estimates are Hard to make though Because nobody really knows who's mining bitcoin and how much power they're using So you have to make rough guesses. They're educated guesses, which is why i'm not coming down on on poor, uh, not poor But on eric holthouse at gist. He's just using a set of estimates But these estimates are hard to pin down digiconomist Is is the one that a lot of people point to it Frequently uh are currently estimates that around 3.4 gigawatts Are used to mine bitcoin However, several cryptocurrency folks who are fans of cryptocurrency dispute the accuracy of the estimate A 2014 irish researcher, uh, carlo dweyer and his fellow researcher david malone Estimated between 100 megawatts and 10 gigawatts total being used for bitcoin back then malone now estimates It's half a gigawatt He he he's changed his estimate in 2015 researcher has makook pinned it at 120 megawatts A 2016 paper in the international symposium on computer architecture said the power used by these server farms They're called asic computers Uh and purpose built data centers of specialized mining equipment Is somewhere between 300 megawatts and 500 megawatts So the ranges that all have Justification for how they're estimated are between 100 megawatts and 3.4 gigawatts So it's either uh, it's actually cheaper. It's it's super it's super easy to mine or it's real expensive. So As the mining gets more efficient the coin gets more valuable miners throw more resources at it Raising the difficulty and the methodology that you change that you use to estimate that changes annual electric consumption in The world Is 2.3 terawatts If you estimate if you just look at okay, here's here's the number of coins being mined Here's how difficult it is to mine if you used standard cpu's if if you said yes, everybody's using a standard desktop computer to mine You'd calculate 450 terawatts as what's being used even though only 2.3 terawatts are world used worldwide So that's of course not happening uh because We don't see that much power being used So you have to estimate a range of hardware and that's where the guessing comes in How many people are using these high-end a6 servers if you estimate all of them are using these power efficient a6 servers That's when you get that really low estimate But the fact of the matter is nobody's actually that efficient. Some people are using less efficient machine Although digiconomist Uses a cost method as the price of the bitcoin rises They sort of estimate how much would it make sense to spend on your machinery in order to make a profit Yeah, I mean that's my question is like okay if I was in the position to Open up a server farm dedicated exclusively to bitcoin mining. I was going to take it really seriously What is my upfront cost? What is my like monthly management cost? You know against getting a bitcoin and whatever bitcoin's value is by the time i'm done problem with that method is that Some people may be acting irrationally and assuming like you know what we think it's going to just keep going up So spend it all for the most efficient machines you can get other people may not be that attentive and just like You know, we know we know we're running hot You know, we're not we're not perfectly efficient, but whatever just just keep using the machines We've got so you can't really get a good estimate that way although it is an educated guess So the the whole bitcoin thing in general can tend to have a little abstraction around it and people have a hard time Myself included Completely getting their heads around it and understanding it from top to bottom and how it works and all this diversity You've just described in hardware and power consumption adds to that abstraction I had an experience very much though on the ground with a friend of mine up the street. His name is zane and he Built a server to do nothing but mine bitcoin all day And he has an array of eight high powered video cards where he has configured it to use those gpus to do the number crunching and everything else and He told me his electric bill went up $300 a month because of this single Computer which doesn't actually calculate my head because I don't know how it's using the much power But the point is you also have in this mix of abstraction People with maybe some actual experiences I would be so cool if somebody listens to this show Who runs or maintains a server farm? Where this is happening all day and what you've been faced with from a power perspective Because I think it's interesting at some point though. You have to wonder if everybody started bitcoining Mining for bitcoins and we all had a little piece of hardware To do this That that has to have some effect now whether it ever Does anything the 2.3 terawatts that we currently use as a as a planet? I don't know But I find that I find that fascinating because it seems like it's going to be it seems like a really tricky number to find Yeah, and and this is the problem. Uh, it certainly uses a lot of energy. Is it a danger? It's almost impossible to say If you pick just a point in the middle of the range, it's not a danger. It's just electrical intensive And it's certainly not the only electricity intensive industry we have For instance, herald franken associate professor at netherlands open university Thinks that bitcoin probably uses between 0.8 and 4.4 kilowatt hours per year Uh, and and he's on the low end. Remember digiconomist thinks it's much larger than that But he says look compare that 4.4 kilowatt hours, let's let's use the high end of his estimate compare that to the 138 kilowatt hours per year used for gold mining and recycling Or the 11 kilowatt hours per year used for paper notes and mining coins There are other monetary instruments That use a lot of power to maintain themselves and us data centers consumed about 70 billion Kilowatt hours of electricity in 2014 Uh, so just running normal data centers that that power search engines and netflix streams and all of that Uses a lot of energy too Yeah, I mean I I bet there's all sorts of things we could start questioning ourselves about how much energy if you could quantify it does it take to Run netflix every day and have everybody consume that is that worth it? Is that more important than power consumption savings? Like you can get into a real i don't know if they'd call it a moral argument but you can talk a lot about priorities and um come up with a lot of A lot of perspectives on what should be You know what should consume what power and what shouldn't so I don't know why Why this should be any different other than it's kind of controversial and new and weird to people and You know that'll all that'll all come with time. Well, I think a lot of people rightly just say look, let's be careful Let's not oh get over exuberant on on the one hand Let's not get over exuberant about a market that might crash and end up be worth nothing Let's also not you know waste a bunch of power and get ourselves in a bad situation Either by just stabilizing the grid or affecting the climate or whatever For something that doesn't end up being worth anything so it's worth paying attention to I wouldn't panic about it It also I mean just the conversation we just had about wattage and what does it cost and well It depends on who you ask and you know what their machines look like and no wonder everyone on my facebook feed is like cryptocurrency Let's talk about it. What is it? Yeah? Yeah, there's a lot of fun. It's like the more you unpack it the more you're like Oh, there's a lot of levels to this. Yeah cryptocurrency. How does it work a new spinoff show on dtms? Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit You can submit stories of vote on a daily tech news show dot reddit.com if you got a blog post about your cryptocurrency mining operation submit it there Also our facebook group facebook.com slash group slash daily tech news show. Let's check the mail bag Sarah Let's first email comes from daniel. He's chalky in our chat room And he says he's cold and miserable in the uk. Sorry to hear that Just wanted to add some context to the childish bickering between amazon and google It's worse than watching our british mp's members of parliament Daniel says this is double standards take apple right apple doesn't allow casting of apple music and video as far as i'm aware on Chromecast either they pulled all the nest products from the apple retail stores because they don't support home kit And don't sell chromecast either yet. They're still an official youtube app available for apple tv and ios Surely if it's good for one company, it's good for the other right? I don't see google selling amazon fire tv's in their store either google needs to pick up their toys and get back in the pram in the end it hurts consumers and leaves a bitter taste even more Than it hurts amazon i'm not going to go out and buy a new 4k streaming box Just so i can watch youtube especially not a chromecast ultra because i have to use a separate device It isn't practical for my less technical partner and doesn't integrate with my harmony remote setup Especially when google could just throw attention with roku et cetera at a moment's notice I mean chromecast works with my harmony, so i'm not sure what he means by that but the general principle is taken which is These these this is a spat and we lose But that that's who ends up losing you know if google's in a spat with amazon apple's been in the spat with google Apple's been in a spat with amazon they partially make up here, but not there nest products aren't on sale at apple stores or amazon Right now because they're all in a fight with google even though nest isn't google anymore It's part of alphabet which is the parent company google. It's just a mess and it just makes it inconvenient for us Yeah, so uh, I would remind people that nintendo had a fight with amazon that resulted in a lot of gnashing of teeth by fans I forgot about that games there, but could not get hardware there And now that's resolved why because it switches a giant seller and amazon like a little taste of that So this stuff tends to come around, but these are two monstrous companies having it out at our expense and it's a little annoying yeah All right, uh charles is the next person We have an email from who wrote in to say I decided to up my pledge From the nickel backers, uh, which is the production assistance to the quarterbackers the associate producers So a couple of nickel backers who had to drop are now covered. Thank you charles So if you had to drop your pledge recently, uh, because you hit some financial difficulties charles picked you up Uh, thank you charles. He says I don't make as much as I'd like But I have enough blessings in my life that I could share a few So thank you for the insight that this show has added to my personal and professional life Oh warm and fuzzy holiday email Yeah, thanks charles Uh, and also thanks to scott johnson with us every wednesday scott. What is going on in your life? Oh, you know Lots of things, but i'm only gonna tell you everything start from the beginning I'm gonna tell you about one and one only. Uh, no, here's what you should do if you, uh, Find me at all interesting when I come on here on wednesdays and you're thinking what's the scott guy all about? Well, you can find out at frockpants.com where everything I do is linked there all the shows I run other shows with tom in fact Uh, I do a morning show. I have video game shows. I have all kinds of stuff. 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Yeah, it sounded all right Why did melania trump just email me? Oh, I mean she didn't personally email me. She's like, hey, sarah. I've heard from you You've been chosen as one of our top supporters to receive a chance at the first batch of official 2018 republican national committee calendars Oh, very nice Uh, and then I wish the subject line was help Okay. All right. So i'm not getting political. I'm just saying that's political It's a little bit political, but it's real political. Okay. It's super political I Don't uh, you know this this calendar or any calendar, um My mom every year she would give me a like 365 days of kittens calendar You guys have all seen those it's like a different kitten every day of the year Oh, yeah And then you know each month has like the featured kitten and then you have your individual days And you know she and I for years every Christmas One of my presence was the cat go the kitten calendar for the next year And like a couple of years went by where listen, let's not get political How do I do this without getting political A couple of years went by where I was like, yay the kitten calendar And then like it never got hung up anywhere because I don't really have physical calendars anymore And then finally I was like mom don't spend the money on the kitten calendar because I'm just like I'm just not using them anymore And I just felt bad about it. Oh, I feel I it's weird. I have a 365 day I have a perpetual calendar that my grandma made Uh in the 70s and she was it was in hanging in her house above the dining room table for years and years Uh, and then when she passed away, I got it and I you know, I've used it And I keep wondering like do I need to keep updating this like do we even need a calendar? But every once in a while I find myself looking at it because it's there But if it wasn't there, yeah, I'm not sure I need it I mean the and there's you know, for a long time I really did, you know, if there was something that needed to happen The calendar was hanging in my kitchen wherever I lived was always in the kitchen You know and you write it down and then you're looking at it all the time At some point I got away from that and now it I can't imagine doing it that way again Because I'd be like that's just another place. I got to write something in I'm already doing it on You know, I all my other calendars my digital calendars, but Anyway, so no Melania, I will not Don't need a calendar. Thanks though. It's not about you. It's about the fact that I just don't want don't need a calendar. Thanks. Bye I I like I use a calendar, but I can't have any of the ones that are fancy, you know with the Pictures because I write over everything so I need Like a lot of white space to write Like if you had all those kittens, you'd just be defacing It's like, you know doctors appointments pay this bill There's white space It's on the side of my fridge real big No, I I do I it's I have I wear glasses for a reason. I'm I'm I'm glad you guys take amusement at physical decisions. All right, settle down Like a political by your eyes. All right, let's get political about the titles Yeah, what are we gonna call this show the matter with get it watts. Oh, I like this one already. Good work, friend What is that pivot table? Watts watts The matter with bitcoin Yeah, what's up. Oh got it. Yes. Very good. Uh sheets pivot pivot table sheets pivots pivot tables Tom has spies everywhere mozilla has altered the deal boring bitcoin More watts than answers with bitcoin Um, the real cost of bitcoin about 1.21 gigawatts 1.21 gigawatts Watts the buck bitcoin Get our start talking with scott about bitcoin again It plays videos. I like what's what's what's what's the matter with bitcoin? Yeah steam stop taking bitcoin because they're like, we don't know how to price things right now because it keeps going up So we're stopping that too volatile Maybe they should accept gold ooh Back to the golds digital gold standard steam steam returns to the gold standard You can only buy steam downloadable content with gold Yeah You know, I would expect some genius out there to figure a way to stop taking bitcoin two days later steam announces new cryptocurrency steam coins The steaming gets your steaming pile of coins right here Steaming pile Is that your steaming pile song? Yeah Based on another song So what's the matter with bitcoin? I'm guessing that's seems to be the unanimous favorite It's the banana favorite What's the matter with bitcoin? So can you can what can you do with bitcoin? Well, it it holds value. Can you eat it? Well, it holds value. Can you drink it? It holds value Same thing with a dollar bill What can you do with a dollar bill? I could burn it For warmth warm Yeah, and you can do the same with bitcoin by mining it keeps your whole house warm all those servers Unless you're using one of those efficient asic servers. They're rebooting uh war games. Sorry. Just saw this Yeah, they're rebooting the computer from war games When you like to play a game No, it's uh 80 this says here war games reboot teaser the 80s hacker movie gets upgraded as an edgy interactive series Series. Yeah, I don't know about that. Well, there was a war wasn't there war games too? Like it was really bad though. I don't remember. It was like a Not starting at your project or anything. No, no it was like a straight to video. Yeah, really released It was really bad. I just didn't make any sense The first one didn't sort of make sense either, but I don't think I've seen it since it was you know a new movie And I know at that age. I didn't really understand what I was watching anyway I know it was like about computers and it was dangerous I remember my cousin claims his elbow is in the movie war games because he worked He worked at the air force base where they shot parts of it. Oh, it's funny. He's like, oh, yeah Look closely. You'll see my elbow. That's so funny Where was it shot? Uh, it was someplace in or where was he anyway? I think he uh, well I think he was in Missouri at the time. He was in a bunch of different places I get it. The college campus or somewhere that they were Yeah Now he worked in a in a nuclear Facility like a nuclear weapons facility He wasn't one of the guys with the keys or anything See this is I don't even remember the movie No, I know you shouldn't play games when it comes to war the keys thing is just how nuclear weapons, you know how they Games the whole idea was that they would have computers decide when to launch the missiles instead of people And then the computer gets out of hand because which one time a computer said that missiles were being launched at the united states And if we had followed protocol, we would have launched in response. It turned out that computer was in error And because someone said I don't think this is right and didn't launch them. We didn't have nuclear holocaust And I believe that was the inspiration for the movie Yeah It's disturbing as that happens more than once in real life That didn't have a happy name like whopper for the computer Colossus That's a good one fate sealer judgment machine And it just turns out to be like a pocket calculator a graphing calculator. Yeah, yeah, well honestly Yeah, a pocket phone is more powerful than those computers that were running the nuclear system back then Back then they still run them now Did you see that whole uh whole thing? They they're actually keeping the old systems the ones that and not not the big floppies that are like five and a quarter But the super big ones that were like eight inch Floppies is because it's like well, there's no way to hack this because it's so old which is good Yeah, I need an 8088 processor Oh man, so you run out of experts that know how to maintain those systems Because nobody uses them anymore We need a guild the guild of the ancient computer sysadmin Oh man Can we wear robes and hoods and all that? Sure. Okay our guild. We can do whatever what However, it probably goes out of business when someone learns to make a compiler that automatically translates Wait a minute. Has someone started the guild of podcasting? I don't know Uncasting guild we should look into this Maybe we should start a guild. Let's do a guild. I could be I want to be in it. Yay. Yeah. I think we're the founding members right here. Yeah, I think this is it We are the forefathers Do we get to have an award show like all the other guilds do? Um, yes We don't make it public with a red carpet on e for four hours before the show starts It needs to be very dan brown very secrety and stuff. That's what I want. No, we're yeah We're gonna be dan brown. We're gonna be all about the the the secrecy But we are gonna have the awards and the red carpet. We just won't have the ceremony or tell people who won We'll have a ceremony, but it won't be as uh as uh Brash or as expensive because you know what no one wants to watch The the the people you know the acceptance speeches and the long waits. They just want to watch the good We'll just have the good parts Yep The fighting the back talking the stuff they do on stage Oh, I love uh award show season We're getting there Uh robes award shows. What else do we need for our guilds? We need we need uh harp music Harp music Yeah, harp enchanting like I don't feel like our guild is a harpy guild Like a gurgorian chant Like what we like when we enter the the mon we'll call it the monastery, but it's just an awesome Those are two different things harps and gurgorian chants, but we can we can have both Well, you would you wouldn't play you wouldn't play them at the same time. What would be ambient music other would be ceremonial music That's for the red carpet as people are going down the red carpet A harp is a very it really sets a mood, you know, it really does. Yeah, and that's it's it's great Good harpist wonderful, but uh Um, I think we need a lodge Not a black one, please. No, no, no. I don't want to be in there. Nope me either. No bob wet lodge. Yeah sweat lodge Yeah, hey, can you get us some cheap mountain real estate there in utah where we can build our lodge? Well, it's those cubes it used to be but yes All right. Well, that's what about all that's recently freed up land. Is any of that cheap? Yeah, well, wait, are you a fracker because we can get in easy if you're maybe Maybe our guild could engage in some fracking. Yeah, let's get some fracking if it gets us the land We'll look into that people not political at all. No Uh, and and not fracking for oil. I'm thinking more like Battlestar collect Well, wait a minute. We'll call it fracking uh for oil, which is someone's name We're uh, we're fracking all fracking great That's what we are We'll have uh, we'll have a hash browns in the Sausages for hors d'oeuvres Where did that come from? I don't know. Roger has very specific ideas about this guild. Yeah Harps, green chants sausage browns and sausage for our derbs at our fracking site So it turns out like the entire like the entire cafeteria is just basically a denny's Where did where did we have a cafeteria? We will you need a cafeteria. You can't you can't you can't run these off No, we have a kitchen and then a man in a like velvet suit comes out and brings you your food We don't have a cafeteria. We'll call him denny And we'll call him denny and it'll be denny's kitchen So, uh, and he can have moves over his hammy. Yeah You have to explain it to him It's starting to feel like a nightmare. Yeah, okay like the shining Fine we'll find the robes could be bath robes. Everyone can walk around the bath robes giant No, why no, we just it's not what we want get dressed. Please guild members Why are you saying that is if you're giving in on a point like, okay, fine You guys could have your but nobody's at once bathrooms No one wants that. All right, if I'm gonna be in a guild, I want to be wearing a bathroom Okay, you just wet lodge You don't go into us I mean, I mean you're gonna go know a sweat lodge and khakis are the button down shirt No, okay. You're right. You're right a a you know, appropriate sweat lodge attire would have to be all right Now you're making sense Now you're making sense. I think we could end the show. Thanks everybody for watching. Bye Bye