 Question is from more Jojo. Why is the compete and cheat mentality with food so common among bodybuilding athletes? Do you think athletes in other sports have a better relationship with food than bodybuilders? Okay, so great, great, great question. Also not fair. Okay, so I'll explain why, okay? If we're gonna compare bodybuilders to any other space in terms of food relationships, you can't compare bodybuilders to athletes. Bodybuilders are judged on how they look, not how they perform. Now compare bodybuilders to models, okay? Look at models, look at bodybuilders. What you find is a similar pathology with nutrition, very, very similar. The problem is two things. One, bodybuilding attracts people who tend to have insecurities with how they look, but forget that for a second. If you're hardcore about bodybuilding, you are competing in a sport that is basing everything on how you look. Athletes, on the other hand, sure, especially if you're professional, how you look is kind of important for sponsorships, but really it's about how you perform. It's all about performance. The reason why athletes have a better general, now I'll agree with that, I think athletes have a generally a better relationship with food than bodybuilders, is because it's all based on performance. This is why doing a program like Maps PowerLift for somebody who has body image issues is brilliant. It's absolutely brilliant. Takes your body, your mind off of how you look. And is that gonna benefit your relationship to food? Yes, will it completely fix it? No, there's more work to be done, but it will change the focus. But if you're always, imagine that, always, it's always about how you look, how you look, how you look, you get on a stage. It has nothing to do with how much you lifted, how strong you are. It doesn't even matter how big you measure with your biceps or whatever. It's how good you looked on stage. That's what fucks with people. I can also make the argument coming from an athletic sort of background that it would behoove an athlete to kind of go through the discipline and dedication it takes to manage your macronutrients, to figure out the best formula for you specifically in your body besides the performance aspect of it, just the knowledge of it to know how your body reacts and dive deep into nutrition. But again, I think the other is more common. I don't necessarily think it's a better or worse relationship, it's a different relationship. That's what it is. I mean, it could be just as detrimental to your health on both. I've had athletes that, they look aesthetically okay, but they eat like shit. And you cannot think that that's not affecting their insides. And sometimes I think that can be, it's like the skinny fat person. I used to always tell my clients that were like really overweight and they put on fat so easy. I used to tell them, hey, this is a blessing in disguise. Your body tells you when you're not eating well and it shows you. I've had many clients that have a lot of issues going on inside because they're skinny fat because they don't put on a ton of extra weight. So you see that relationship very similar in your athletic people like that are in sports, like basketball, baseball, football, they're burning so many calories that they get away with. I think there's just a lot more ignorance. Right, yeah. And it's a different relationship. That's what I saw. Like I mean, we're going to buffets, we're going to like as many calories as, I mean, yes, it is like what's gonna do best for me performance wise on the field, but then the association of consuming and buy it like whatever it is, like it doesn't matter the quality of it. It was just a matter of like getting it in and you know, performing and then I was going to see what was going to happen. Well, you guys have trained X NFL and major league baseball play. I mean, I have and a lot of them are in terrible shape because they were so used to always practicing, always playing games that they never had to watch their diet and then now once that slows down. Oh yeah, these athletes are fucked. Yeah, the same behaviors they've had for 20 years of their life playing sports, they no longer can have. And they're completely lost. So, and that's a very bad relationship too. If it's, but it's different, right? The bodybuilders. I would rank it. I mean, you can definitely rank it in terms of what's probably a worse place to be versus, you know, where's easier, but you're right. I mean, when you're in season versus off season for performance, for athletes, that can definitely happen. It's worse. So, you know, if I were to rank these, I would say this, the worst is basing your diet on how you look, which would be bodybuilders, models, that kind of stuff. The second one would be weight, how much you weigh. So, if you look at the sports where athletes tend to have the biggest disparities between when they're competing, when they're not, look at the sports that have a weight class, boxers, wrestlers, MMA fighters. Those guys, way different. I can make a case to challenge that though. I can make a case to challenge that and say the opposite is true. Because at least the bodybuilders, although they're driven by insecurities, the way they look and they have a poor relationship because of those reasons, at least they've learned the tools on how to control their body weight up and down and what's a good amount of calories. They definitely are more informed. Right, they're way more informed. That's for sure. Because I've had professional athletes that looked amazing when they were professional athletes, but now that they're 40. They don't know how many calories. Yeah, they don't know what a fucking protein is, a carb is, they didn't know what anything was because they didn't have to worry about any of that. All they cared about was playing their sport. And so, they're like teaching a child how to eat correctly. So, at least with a bodybuilder or, let's say I get both of these X, right? X bodybuilder, X pro athlete. They're both 45 years old. They both had bad relationships with food and now I'm gonna have to work on them. It's just a different thing I'm working on. With the bodybuilder, when I tell them macros and all that sort of that, it computes very well with them, but then I have to get them to detach from this insecure thing that they were driven by for so many years where the athlete, they may not have some sort of an attachment to the way they look. They don't give a shit about that, but they're clueless on how to eat correctly. Oh, they have no idea on X athletes have no idea on proper portions. Right. I'll train like these X female athletes and they'll be like, this is how I used to always eat. And I'm like, well, show me like, what is a typical meal? And I look, I'm like, that's a massive meal. You were eating that when you were training twice a day for- And then the answer is always more hit cardio to make up for it. Right, so I can make the case that, Sure. Both of them, they're different relationships. So I don't think that one is worse than the other. I think that they both could and they both can have okay relationships too. I don't want to beat up on all athletes or beat up on all bodybuilders somewhere in the middle. Yeah, but if, you know, if we were, if I were to say that I had two people in the, you know, middle age that were X athlete and then it was an X bodybuilder, both had poor relationships. I couldn't say, I wouldn't say that one is worse than the other. They're just different challenges as a coach that I have to overcome. It's like the difference between hyper focus and no focus. You know, like too much focus and exception. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a spectrum. Or none at all. No, that's a good point. And then what I said earlier about a little bit of a, what you might call a self-selection bias kind of plays a role. There's probably more, I mean, I could bet money that there's more body image insecurities going into bodybuilding, physique, bikini. That's why a lot of people become, you know, bodybuilders, less in terms of sports. Less people are like, oh, I'm gonna go play basketball because I'm super insecure about being skinny or fat or whatever.