 What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a twerk of the town Got me in the sisters, I'm hooking them down What's up y'all man, new episode, talk of the town Today we got a special guest Do you play for Keith? Do you play for Keith for her? Long time no see, people thought she was in jail Or something Nah, I died, got locked I got locked up Oh you did get locked, but she was out But she wasn't really posting When you got out Fake Yeah Cause Like The judge You don't know the system So I can't Can't post Like anything Like related to Music with You know Other people Like my other friends That's you know Known in the system He didn't want me around Like anything You know Gang related or You know So I can make your case A better type of shit Yeah So did you make a new Instagram Or You just took everything down I know My own My first Instagram You remember what murder B got that I spoke to Miami Yeah They fake I fake posted that And like They shut my account That after My main one And then I had to make the backup He's like He's the one He's the one Okay Alright so Finish the sentence I'ma start the sentence And you finish it Like type shit So My favorite ad lib is What's your favorite ad lib Glock la boo Okay My favorite memory Is when When I When I got that M Okay On We back We back for two I know it Okay music is Everything to me When you hear my music It makes you wanna Geek Keep Geek Oh oh When I make music I feel Happy I feel my best when I'm getting high When I feel sad I Cry You don't be crying You're trolling Usually niggas be sad They smoke That word But um Okay my dream is for To get rich My fans are My most supporters Social media is Fake Relationships are Crazy And I hate when people Judge me Type shit Okay so Walk us through the beginning Growing up in Shekel Um I was just thinking about it like It's like it's weird It was weird like it was fun as a kid Don't get me wrong It was that fun as a kid I was just Basically Like I didn't know the things I know now About like The hell like my block like You know like I didn't know like you know I was a kid It was dead like everything was sweet That was just having fun Having fun Like Sugar Hill was like Sugar Hill like sweet Like as a kid growing up I wasn't really like A threat as a kid I was bad Yeah For me I wasn't doing a violent As a kid though Like 7, 8, 9 Like my childhood As a child It was fun Going out Park every day Everybody in the park Or Water balloon fights Tap man hunt Regular kitchen Regular New York Growing up shit Or fights Yeah So like So was everybody The same Or was it people That maybe The world don't know You know what I'm saying Now we know DD We know EDOT We know everybody Was there anybody else That was around too That probably just don't do music I guess Or it was a little bit everybody Yeah a little You saying Like That don't do music Meaning like Is it the same people You grew up with The same niggas that's doing music now Or was it more Oh Both Both So but like Everybody kind of went into music though Yeah Yeah Okay So who was the first first To get into music That's so crazy I dad say all the time I feel like it's really me Type shit Out of like I mean You know the bros can actually See this too While y'all watching Like I was the first one Wrapping Type shit Me and Benzo You know Me and my boy Benzo B It's so crazy You know Joe Budden Right Yeah I was like Eight They told me I was Joe Budden We kids We mad young You got Joe Budden Yo I didn't know I swear to God Like I knew I heard it Like I didn't I just didn't know he was You know I went out Right from He threw me on his page Like 2013 I was like Eight Nine Everybody in the hood Joe Budden Joe I just kept Hand Joe Budden Type shit Cause you was playing with it You was playing with the music You wasn't serious Yeah I had to find myself in the music Okay So music felt like work It wasn't fun I was just trying stuff It was like It was fun And I was trying It both like Work It was fun And I was trying shit Yeah Okay So what If it wasn't music What you would have been doing Playing ball Well I ain't a lot Playing ball Fake Fake Yo All y'all watching right now I know y'all about the y'all I wasn't elite But I had a little son He's up there So like You was going to go to college and stuff Or you wasn't even thinking about it Yeah I had like I used to just tell my moms Like I want to go to Duke I want to go to Duke I used to really play ball Middle school Middle school years Heavy I wasn't even smoking at the time I used to play ball heavy I really started Stop playing ball And really start Smoking And shit just started Like around the eighth grade Freshman Yeah Like eighth grade though Because by freshman year I was already A pothead Okay Or So eighth grade Like seventh eighth grade Okay I started getting lazy So Alright So Who was I guess taking Music series on block Who was the first to like Really We going to the studio We going to the studio Or was everybody on there Yeah And it was Eli You know It was me, Dot Barge, Roscoe My boy Trap It would just be like We out to the studio Like Top shit We out to the studio Like Your call is like For me we out to the studio Okay And was you like Ready to take it serious Or you were just more So supportive I'm at the time I was ready to take it serious But I didn't know Like it just happened Like Like I remember When Dot Like when Dot first Used to say it out loud I heard these things going beef Sugar hill Get them like For me it just happened Like it just I swear to God I don't even know Till it's there I don't even know How bro Like God Not to say like I don't even know How bro God look like I don't even know That's your own big old viral though It just happens Yeah It just I found him on Instagram When I found E Dot And I think he had Just hit an M Or was about to hit an M It was a sugar hill shit But everybody thought The little nigga in the thumbnail Was the rapper So I think that's Was helping people put it Yeah Bloody That was bloody Oh wow Bloody said Yeah I thought I was supposed to do something Yeah Worry So yeah So I think that's kind of What helped to the thumbnail For that shit too That too Worry Cause everybody's like This a kid rapping But yeah Alright so I'm taking him a serious He signed a situation What was he working on at this time Was he just locked in the studio Which I was trying to figure it out Yeah I was One bro signed Actually I wasn't even Like when he signed I wasn't I was in South Carolina Okay But When I came back He was still signed When I came back We was Yeah We made off the walkie We made We was So as soon as you got back to New York In the studio Right back We were We were As crazy We were actually in Jersey Like half of the whole Like Worry Worry Okay Alright so Y'all all seem like Super supportive of each other The whole Sugar Hill Facts is just Like None of us act Like Hollywood toward each other We didn't We didn't slept in the same We sleep in this Like for me We didn't slept in the same No homo Like bad Yeah For me Went to school together For me Love their brother's shit Type shit Niggas not like It's not like Like these other hoods Niggas Just met each other Type shit What five years ago Four years ago Now they locked in For me now I got years in We're half of my My niggas Ten years Plus Ten plus Years worth What Okay so What What Do you think Anything changed Like as far as like The support of each other and stuff Cause I don't know Y'all seem to like Be going back and forth Not no more But like used to be Going back and forth In that Not necessarily you But just people from the block You You feel You act like Like the support Do you feel like The support changed Or do you feel like Which thing Or do you feel like Niggas could do more Or you feel like Niggas is doing all they could do Yeah well Nah niggas can't Nah nah It's definitely It's definitely like Niggas could do more Or I don't watch Sir Niggas Share Sir Niggas pose Cause For me Niggas be around For me And then that's another thing Niggas do like Female shit Niggas I don't sit Sat there and watch Niggas Talk about the next For me Like Man shit Niggas gotta do Niggas gotta do more With the support and shit I feel like But like Right now though The support is good Like I feel like Like all the main factors On the hill And everybody that's rapping On the hill Support each other Yeah for sure But as in A youth Like as a whole You know movement As a whole You know The support Gotta get better Cause What do you think Be like Separating it Do you think people Got different goals Think it be money Problem Like what do you think It be Got two Niggas got different goals Everybody on the hill Not trying to be a rapper Everybody don't want to Fade Like You know everybody Trying to play their position That's what we Try to learn Like That's what we Try to You know Get things And you know Like Everybody can't be You know Like cause they thought you They thought D.D. How it took you off The Oh let's do it song People were so mad about that But come to find out You were still on the song Yeah I was I was actually I was telling P P films I know you've probably seen that I was just saying Like I was just a Label move At first But really Like Like basically Like Waka Flaka Wasn't Approving it Like Like he was on some Like Like This is my baby This is my first Song that got me lit He wasn't approving it Types it Until In that league I don't know So It was a go from there Okay Yeah because You know I ain't even mad at Waka You know Nobody wasn't even like You know Or Waka was on some Like I away hold on It's my Hold on Fools What y'all doing It's my baby I ain't even mad at you In a sense Yeah Cause now you got to drop y'all shit Cause it wouldn't Been able to Are you cool off samples now Being at that happen Or you think you still Wanna do something Yeah I'm cool off samples Which I know I'm the sample king Or I try to do samples Like That's the key I try to do like Like Low key samples Yeah But it's just like The old The good samples Just be hitting Like I gotta do it It sound too fire I gotta do it So DD Osama was of course Updating you through this The label was Updating you through What was going on Yeah I'm actually cool with the Very cool Yeah I'm very cool That's crazy I'm very cool In all shot of My boy Tav My boy Tav I'm actually cool with His label Yeah So You know They're traveling to Eat that Was also doing a lot of shows Do you feel like You don't have As much time With your friends As you used to What you think I wouldn't say that But I'd say everybody be Doing their own thing You know If I got them on I definitely got them On my own That's why You know I'm different from everybody Do you feel like Cause you wasn't on tour And stuff with them Cause you was going Through your legal stuff Right So do you Have any regrets Like Do you wish you would Have been on tour Or things like that Or like How are you feeling about Shows The same thing I'm missing Koei word too I'm dead missing Some shows Month That chicken I'm dead missing That's the only thing Like Where I began me type Like I really wish I was back on my Show shit Like So Is it that like Is it getting better Though Your case Yeah Definitely I'm definitely Doing what I gotta do Definitely Staying out The way Post and music You know that Don't partake In gang violence So Which is pushing you To make more creative songs You know Exactly You know No guns No You know Put the guns down For me Or a lot Okay So as you've been sitting I guess reflecting on All this stuff What are some changes You want to make Moving forward Trying to make it out Or Just really trying What does that look Like for you Just out the hood Just Out of here Moving forward Or I just want to move forward You know how I was doing good Cody I was dead Like Say I'ma do this And just do it Yeah I learned Some things too Like When you just do it Don't think about it Yeah It's going like Doing it For me Yeah I was doing it Moving around I was just Dropping every week I was just Like Setting up the edge Just doing Just doing shit Or When you just do it Or It's a better For me It's a better outcome So now What are you Are you recording more Are you trying to shoot More videos What you doing now Yeah I got the album on the way I got Sure More videos I just locked in With another camera man I got Songs in the stash That's going to be Out of soon Facts Collabs Yeah I got a few Collabs on the way I got a A collab with Breezy From Brooklyn Singer? She's not a singer But yeah I know who that is Yeah So y'all got some shit Okay That's my heart right there That's cool Any other girls You want to work with Coilery I feel like I always say that Damn So you wasn't even After videos Shoot I know you Yeah You heard Collie I was heavy You think it's No I've been heavy You heard So Yeah I'm heavy Yeah I feel like Your case Fake picked up Soon as they should Started kicking off for real What I think I feel like Your case Faked up soon as Didi and I Started traveling more Facts Facts So the last time That I seen you We was all at the show And that's when we Had I got the news about Edad How you been going through Damn I forgot you That was the last time I seen you Yes I was there I forgot Oh you was there I'm thinking I'm taking pictures And shit I was Collie That shit was Shit You stayed for the rest Like I don't even know What happened I know y'all Got in the car I left too Once I left I found out What happened So like You were in offstage Then everybody was trying to See why you had left And then Didi found out last But he was doing A meet and greet Remember You probably don't know So like Like they were still Performing or like No it was done Performing It was But we was about to do A meet and greet I think I was still Like It was still Musical Yeah Cause they wanted y'all To keep going But sometimes It was like No we gotta do Then yeah You got the call? You got a call? I got a call Once I got into the city I got a call From noodles Cause he told E.K. You know What? Yeah That's how I found out What was Your first reaction? I think it was Crazy bro Cause y'all Wasn't even Felt good time So that shit was just Yeah I was still Speaking abroad I literally had Spoked him Yeah And he said He was gonna go But niggas didn't invite him Same shit What? Yeah And I was like No you should still go Gangsta So you should I just tell you For yourself Yeah I definitely told them To still go Yeah But that shit was And I was like So how you been Going through it How you been Getting through it Just I'm trying to get I ain't gonna lie Cody I just be Just I'm just here I just be Living day by day Just Going through it day by day Yeah Think about my son 24-7 Work Nonstop He definitely was Keeping this shit going bro So I feel like He definitely was But Like a lot of y'all niggas Don't like You know There's a lot of people That I see You know Saying my son fell off My niggas wasn't even Like It's just like My son dying right there Showed me a lot A whole lot That's why I really I could say that I really like I changed in a way Different Yeah Or Fake love Or There's a lot of fake love On my son was on this earth Or I feel like I hear what you're saying I hear what you're saying How do you feel about the Separation now? I want to say separation But Like I said Not with the hell I'm talking about Remember EK Oh That's crazy too That showed me Their true colors That showed me Like Fake love too I was just on the phone With him The other day Oh wow My old bro Like He'd be so mad at you Right now Gotta be mad Tight at you Right now Like You know it bro You know it in your heart I'm telling you You know it in your heart Like You know my son Wouldn't be jacking you Right now Like Yes he would Yes he would For me bro I was talking to Bro We was having a real Like we wasn't even Politics You know We was talking About like Old shit Yeah We was dad talking Like About like Yeah the separation This shit Yeah that show me A lot of niggas true colors What I mean he still sound Like he's gonna Put on for E.Dot And all that stuff But I guess still Sound like it Sound Show me Type shit Sound Act Act like it Act like it Sound like it I feel like Y'all be going through Y'all shit And y'all just Don't be trying to talk about it And then it just Ends up Turning into chaos I'm not This is me Cause E.Dot used to be Going through his shit too And he never used to Want to talk about his problems But he would just Start from me I just feel like Y'all just gotta Talk to each other So I'm glad that you And E.K. did talk I don't know Like where is that now You know Cause I was upset About the murder B shit She said E.Dot Why are you around her Type shit Why are you around her Right Right I just want to I just want to That gives you a Right there Like You don't really You don't really The love ain't there bro I'm not Bro Then it's like Bro that's her That's her It's her It's not like no That's her That's murder B Bro Like What are you doing here I don't even want to Be at war Next question Yeah So On the music tip though Who do you feel like Are some of the pioneers In the drill Me, my star Me for my For me for star Is me I gotta give it to my boy We going crazy Right now Bloody We going crazy Right now Bloody Pioneers of drill Like magazine For like Stamp this shit Oh my phone I know Bloody do his things That's the bloody But Stamp this shit Like Make his nose Started to shit Me, Elon Shit me the hell We like the hell We like You gotta think about it Cody Who did you hear before us Before he made ready for war Who was out Who was the hottest Out right before ready For war Give me that Cody Who like Who was doing They thing in 2020 Us Who had it in 2020 When it first started Us Yeah, especially for like The Harlem Bronx And shit like that Us On some of Brooklyn You know Brooklyn had they way But like From transitioning It was like He was one of the first from Up there where Yeah, okay, I ain't gonna lie too I forgot Because I was from Brooklyn So you ain't got the I ain't gonna lie I forgot about Brooklyn That was like 2017 Yeah, let me Yeah, let me Maybe if it was 2020 He definitely had it though I'm not even gonna lie Brooklyn Yeah, like Yeah, I ain't gonna lie Brooklyn It's cool if you can I faked like I ain't gonna lie Like Shout out back to demon Like I faked that Used to be young Used to try to sound Like him how to Raspy voice A whole lot I ain't gonna lie Like I gotta give it to a couple Brooklyn niggas Where they faked Like Brooklyn niggas faked Not me Like But like Inspired niggas For me Why do y'all say It's cool if they gave you Some I don't know Like I faked like Like of course I used to listen to their music And I faked Went off Or what they You know I go off for like Certain beats Certain I go Basically Not inspired me But like Shout out to some of the Brooklyn niggas They help you Help your sound Yeah, gangsta I basically went off For their energy Types it They gave you energy That's cool So The flow The bars And the voice Flows, bars, voice Okay That's the main key Okay So like Of course when I was coming out with numbers I feel like nowadays Anybody's getting Like a million views Damn, man So do numbers Like discourage you Like if your shit Don't hit a certain number Yeah Still Bro I feel like There's so much rappers now So like how you Yeah, that's what Be getting me tight Like damn, y'all All these fucking new Drill rappers Don't give a nigga Man Give a nigga some space You also Be taking breaks though You'll go crazy For like a month Then you'll chill out Then you'll go crazy For like another month Then you'll chill out And I'll be noticing That helps Right on In a way Not helps in a way Like you know When I come back I come back In a way So We back part two Yeah, it feels It's long We all the same So like So like when did you See that song going up For real We made the Trilla And Everybody Everybody wanted that Like everybody Wanted us to drop it Mm-hmm And God just said Yo, we're shooting this Next week Shot it Types, yeah Now I'm saying Like on the internet Everybody was singing that Everybody was singing that shit Nah, yeah Alright The Trilla was just going crazy Basically Like the Trilla was going Crazy Yeah Crazy Like we shot We did the Trilla In October Mm-hmm Like September October We didn't shoot Till December We didn't drop Till December Yeah So how did you know We shot in November Dropped in December Some shit like that Late November Dropped in December On Christmas Christmas We dropped on Christmas Eve So like when did you Get the call that you got A million views? Like was he Watching the numbers? Like what happened? Yeah That was That was So So People On t- You be on tiktok? Yes So People on tiktok Felt like In Nicki Minaj The Barbie song She kind of used her flow Yeah I don't know if you've seen that Yeah You agree? Yeah Yeah I was at Ice Wives video shoot I was trying to get Anybody to get Yo What's up Yo like Tell her like Yo What's up Like Get next to her for me I'm trying to like She just did One of the craziest Songs with my flow She gotta know who I am Okay I know she know who I am Nicki Nicki don't know who I am So Or I'm still to this day Trying to get Anybody closer to their team To like Hit them up Hit them up Like yo Care from Harlem 8.4 million views right now With the same flow of words You use Hit them up Something Give me a feature of something You just want to feature some confidence Give me a DM That's gonna make me happy Make me happy Or So Um Yeah So how do you feel about that Like people I think a lot of people Try to like Not give Shawn to Drill artists Cause they feel like it's Controversy or whatever What do you think about The people that don't Kind of like Give y'all y'all flowers Yeah Yeah Probably y'all The Pole riding For the next Yeah The You know Just dick riding The other group Or other Not really You know Sleeping on us Not realizing What real talent is Um Haters Don't understand us Now I should I think a lot of people Just don't understand For real For real So like Do you feel like Drill dying out I mean Y'all gotta look How I look at it I'm in this generation We not thinking About it like that We just gonna keep making Another Like we in that studio We hear that fire beat Put it up We not thinking Drill is gonna die out But in reality Yes I know it is It might I think y'all just gotta Get creative Get creative with a year Yeah I think y'all Just gotta be creative It's different It ain't one I hope it doesn't Die out I feel like It helped a lot of people So How do you feel about Kirkland how Made a list Like the top 12 Artists in the city You didn't put me No You're a crook Crazy crook Now I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna tell you what He put He put D.D. but S.DOT Kyle, Kenzo, M.R.O. Shaik K. Doody Low Shaji Tata Bloody J-Hall And T.D. Flacker So where am I Free duty Like free to God Where the fuck am I Okay What number do you feel Like you deserve to be On the list Top 5 Top 5 Top Top Like I'm really It was 12 people Top 10 Top I'm top 5 or 10 Like I gotta like They just don't give me My flowers Chloe Like I'm really underrated Chloe They're gonna see what Yeah I think we just Wait in to see Like we'll see A whole plan Maybe this project Will help people Separate You know what I'm saying No That too Okay So what's on the project Any features on the project Yeah Some of the guys Like I said Pretty easy Some of the guys And I'm still Going to the studio And working So I can see what's up Working Okay Alright Did you see The fight with Bloody in them At the airport Yeah What do you think about that Ten is a bitch You know You know I was happy I was happy as I have How did you Cause Naughty been On the hood In the hood right So like When you heard the I guess Naughty Bob song Right These niggas is doing Anything That's when I realized Yeah They doing anything They doing anything For Chloe We don't Like You know Chloe You know Oh you know You know But We not going to do that But Like Chloe You know Like Bro We never Ran into it with them Never It's just like How can How can the world Accept Like How can the world Can accept that Bro They never did Nothing Like Chloe We never bro I was just calm Bro Just to show the world Like Bro Civilians do anything To be cool People do anything To be down Son That's just showing Yeah It was definitely I'm a Caution move In a sense for sure But I also Didn't like When blocker Kind of linked up With them Either I thought that was really weird But I spoke to him Or whatever Well I went I interviewed him He was more It was business I don't know You won't even Bleed out your damn sorry You heard You heard Yo that nigga is crazy Are you and blocker good Or you don't speak Or it was a That's crazy That's actually my number I was Fucking we were supposed to Face time But he be hitting niggas Trying to see I think he Want to come back home What the fuck Nah he trying to See what's up He just I just feel like He just looking at it You know he trying to Has the bigger picture Be the bigger person Be the bigger picture But on some On some real shit though What I can say What I can say You know He ain't snitch For me bro He ain't really like I wasn't never like I mean they We shot a video Of the police You feel me He ain't really like You feel me So I was never promoting Like The rap Like I'd be like I really wanted him I was just watching Like I swear to God I swear to God The day it actually Happened Like All that bullshit happened I was in Cortland He called me like Yo I ain't gonna lie He a real Like He did some real Niggas shit bro He called me like Yo niggas on some Where's your niggas On some funny shit If anything bro You know He was just telling me Now Like if anything I'm not Like He fake was on some Niggas on some weird shit bro But I had to realize Why he told me that He ain't like He ain't tell me Niggas pulled up on him Feel me I guess whatever He ain't want to Don't quote me on this I don't know if it's He ain't want to shake Like Niggas pulled up on him He ain't come nasty Like some funny shit Like he He's supposed to shake He ain't want to shake Feel me But I don't think Like don't quote me on that Because I remember I was in court with You just got the call And he just said Something was weird Happening to him So we don't know Now it worked But Free Keem though For sure Free Keem I was just on the phone bro He's just catching up To everything Facts So But all in all though Everybody's super excited That To see D.D. And D.D. Back on stage together At the Chicago shit Facts It looked like They were separated But everybody's Facts Facts Now it was never In my eyes To be To be truthful Because it wasn't Never separated It was working Different ways I guess Basically Okay So I mean You've seen what the label Has done for them Are you looking to sign a deal Still Or you want to work on Your team for real Or what you working on What you want to do I'm staying in the Penner right now But you know Being on this Being in the predicament I am You know For us For lockdown Not being Not being able to do What I want to do Is hard So it's like Labels is kind of Like You know But they are calling But it's just like I don't know Nah It's like They're wary They're the wary ones They want to know What's up with my case But they're interested Very interested Labels is interested But yeah So labels is calling They're just really Worried about your case How are you Feeling about your case Do you feel good about it I'm praying All through Everything you just said Praying Hope I could get off this Praying for the Praying for the best Preparing for the worst You know What you said And just hoping that Just hoping Yeah Word All through So when are you Going to get an update About what's going on Where you going to court Every month right Yeah damn there I go back to court In a couple of days So I'm going to see what's up So what's more important So you getting off The house arrest thing Or just closing the case Getting off the house I'm getting off this ankle monitor Okay Getting off that shit Word That's my main concern So you feel like You do more music shit Once that's done I wouldn't even Call me We probably wouldn't even Have an interview today If I wasn't on this thing Videos, traveling Or crisis shit What Yeah outside I'm going to keep A buck But not yet bro We still locked in though You know that forever Yeah So So we got an album coming in Before the year ends Definitely Before the Hopefully Before the Hopefully before the summer This time it ends In a couple of days Word Word but Hopefully with school Come back out Heck with school Come back out Okay okay okay Like before Halloween Type shit Okay Maybe we could drop on Halloween Might as well right But now I'm I was trying to really I ain't going to lie I was really trying to Bro have this album For the summer bro But it's looking like I was looking I know I'm not going to Have it in the summer Who's helping you with music Right now You got a team Or just you Yeah Like Family Reality I'm a hundred percent Depend Like nobody No label was helping me But I got it My manager My A and N I'm in a Distribution label Rock Nation Okay So my team I have a team At Rock Nation That's cool So So you got to get a project Out with them of course And then No that's Yeah The project But you know That project is all Me right there We just going to Negotiate and see What's up Okay I'm a hundred percent Independent Right So I was going to Say like Every year You know E dot Used to go up For his birthday I kind of like For his shit Yeah I got to go crazy Crazy Like hopefully Like if I Like I'm thinking I should be off this But like around things Giving you know Like around when it Get cold Like before it get cold So I'm going to go crazy If I'm If I'm not on this For his birthday Now I definitely think Y'all should keep An event Or something Going for his birthday Used to do that For his birthday Every year You know What But tell people Where to find Y'all Not deep play for keeps Y'all know I still got the main Page though Y'all know my pages Be acting funny I have me on the grand Y'all know my YouTube Deep play for keeps Or