 Hi there, this is Lana here, and I have an amazing guest from Lithuania here in our studio, and that's Paulus He has absolutely incredible testimony how he got saved and how Jesus Christ touched his life And right now we just want him to share a little bit about his life and how he came to Jesus Christ Paulus welcome. Would you please start with your name where you're from and How did you end up at Hungrygen? Yeah, my name as you mentioned my name is Paulus I came here to New America from Lithuania when I was looking for a Bible school Since I got saved and born again, so I needed something to get a foundation and I happened to meet a friend Who was already knowing this this school this internship program, which I call practical Bible school So she just she was praying for a person to come together and I happened to be that person That is so awesome. It's like God connected you both and that's awesome and now you are here Yeah, and we're happy to have you. Would you please start sharing a little bit about your life and how it was When you were born into what family were you born and how did you receive Jesus? Yeah, that's right Actually, I call my testimony is actually like Jesus victory over my life because it was really like, you know, it was I was born in a non-christian family Meaning that basically they are like atheists, I would say even though officially we are Catholics in Lithuania But that means that we are atheists also in a way. So I was raised as a non-christian But at the age 16 at the Easter, I had a strong desire to come to church for the Catholic Church actually and I Was so disappointed because all I see was like money The priest and like dead in the spirit everything and I just was so like discouraged to follow this tradition and I just moved to atheism straight after and Of course, I was going in the church on Christmas and Easter, but I had my own, you know, right remits and then I finished school With the very good grades because I was raised in a small city and in this small city You're only one take your only one ticket to get out of the city is to like to study hard and then to you know Go to the capital and start your you know Life with a big, you know dreams and possibilities in a big city. So I started there and I Moved from the little city. I was a good boy in a way. I was like mama's boy like sensitive, you know And everything so I came to this big city and since I had since I missed my teens years Like studying hard and working So I just you know moved in a new city and all this, you know clubs and and you know, they open up to me You know, like this like alcohol, you know, I didn't start smoking, but like marijuana I really liked that and I'm beginning So it opened up this new world and basically that's that's how came all the sinful life like sex drugs Alcohol just increasing in the following years and meanwhile I was studying I finished my studying I even I said I studied like communications and media So my like my how to say my professional life was like going like up I finished, you know, like working in advertising and I started in a betting company as a creative director being like H23 or something and then I opened my own business at 20 at age 25 I would say 24. I Open my own business like successful business That mean my meal while I was going really really down like as my professional my career life was increasing But my like my inner life my spiritual life I was dead I was getting more dead and getting more into sin and I was feeling this sin is like overtaking my my conscience My heart as I told them in that thing I call it my heart Right, it was getting more this deceived and more like grieving and empty empty and empty And like the girls came in and more drugs more girls more parties more techno Just made me like dead at age 25. So it was making you numb. You were searching for something more and Was that satisfying to you to some degree? How did you continue to your search for God and stuff? Well, I was going to the you know, like to just catching these like Experiences in my life like traveling, you know, like I was I was running away from my problems Sports traveling you name it girls. He's a very like I know pleasure experiences Like I was starting to use this MDMA pills, you know and the clubs using the techno music for 10 hours and Dancing for 10 hours or 8 hours on Fridays and Saturdays just to forget everything and then come back on Monday and start again working And then at age 25. I really was like after New Year's It was 2016 the beginning. I realized that I'm like I need to change something in my life because I'm going like very wrong Direction and that's how I started like psychology, you know, like psychiatry Counseling yeah, no actually go to the classes and reading and also to the psychologist They almost prescribed me a medicine and everything happened like, you know, like self-help and But it didn't actually help me just like a little bit revealed because I could talk to someone And then my friend actually at this summer 2016 he said like polis you won't make it your own you need to meditate Like really like going to these spiritual practices and start the spiritual life and Before that I wasn't a spiritual person at all Just like sensitive and nice but that inside so I started this Kundalini meditation, which is called Sahaja yoga So your friend was a friend in university? No, or just a friend and he introduced you to this Kundalini practices he was he he is actually was a colleague at the time like in my business colleague in a way like a partner in a way So Yeah, he was in this practice for ten years and he said like it really helped my life so it should help you all also and Yeah, I started this Kundalini meditation and I met there and I meet these people they seem to be happier than anything Can you tell us a little bit more? What are those? Kundalini meditation or whatever they're called. What are they involved in itself? Like, how do you do it? Yeah, basically just like I came there to the class and you just like they teach us about chakras It's a group of people. Yeah, it's a group of people in the beginning But also they teach you how to do that at your own at home So I was going both in the group and also at home. You just basically sit Silently and focus your attention and try to catch the energy flowing, you know from the bottom to the to the top Inside and you just have to like, you know, it's like a process And you kind of mentally and you're kind of like Feeling this the peace and like you I mean thoughtless the goal is to be thoughtless Thoughtless and they say like you're observing your thoughts and becoming more and more thoughtless and Then you feel this kind of energy and the goal is like to be realized like when the energy comes up and it goes through your like through your scalp and Basically, it's also involves the chakras as they say what's chakras chakras like energetic centers for some like, you know We have like seven chakras and this energy when it goes it moves some things and our like personality And then you get become self-realized the goal is to become self-realized like basically become a God Yourself, so it's like evolution process Yeah on your own on your own Actions to become self-realized and I was I was introduced to this, you know to this system to this evolution path There's incarnation path. There's energy path that you can do it on your own And you can become enlightened and then your problems will disappear and believe me it helps With these practices, I removed my addictions They remove and you look how devil works in this way. He removes the addictions So you can invite others to the system which can help them But for devil, it's easy to remove addiction Yes, if you if you go like into the like the evil practices, which will lead to destruction later And he will have a possession of you. Yes, exactly. So that's what happened with me after three months I get to happen out of body experience with this practices tell us about it a little bit Yeah, this this Kundalini is like an energy They say which rests like in the back of the bone and when it rises up It goes through all the chakras and it's like like Explosion and then you like you can feel it like she Lee this kind of you were meditating Yeah for how many hours to reach that enlightenment state This was the beginning so I was my meditation was like 15 20 minutes by that by that experience before that experience And then this experience happened. It took me like 40 minutes. I was in blissfulness I was an ecstasy and I saw my all my life. I was like connected to the universe like really I felt there is a creator This was like and now I think that was illegal. I don't happen to To me the real creator. It was like devil, but he introduced himself as a creator Actually, and I was like really blissful and I felt an ecstasy. I felt that I'm actually I was there My whole soul I was out of body and I was I was closed But I was like really not in my body. It was felt really nice felt light How long did that last 40 minutes and I saw the whole experience Yeah, like something like 40 minutes and I saw the like my life movie like what why I was depressed Why I was addicted? Everything was just like and then I work like I woke up and I realized that the the spirit life is existing Before life I before that I was just playing with the meditation, but after that I was like really strongly encouraged Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then basically after this experience I just jumped to all kinds of practices I started with Vedas like Hindu Hindu scriptures bugger let Gita and then like Buddhism I started with the pastana, which is like Buddhist meditation like really harsh or like 10 hours a day These retreats for 10 hours a day 10 days Also went to India straight after with us. What did you do in India? What were you searching again? I went there with this Ayurveda community with the monks and the group like spiritual seekers And there are also like spiritual seekers who seek for spirit things But in other realms so I went with them and with the group and the leader was a monk And we went to this Ayurvedic temples the Vedic temples Krishna temples also we went to this Ayurveda Like retreat centers to just learn more and to dig deeper into the scriptures of the Hindus and to the wisdom of there Okay, and so how did How long this process of you being involved that deeply into these practices? How long was it for you by that time? I was a businessman So I had like spare money and a free time and you so I dig deep like you can I mean like I was really like You know reading I read like hundred books in these two years I say with two two and two years like fully fully engaged like full time like 100 books like autobiography of yogi like all this kind of Bhagavad Gita scriptures of Eastern mysticism autobiographies of these yogi chakras healings and all kind of shamanism. I was reading that So you were involved that deeply into all of that stuff. Can you please tell me? What is the main point of those religions? What are they all trying to achieve? There is actually a difference between new age spirituality and the Eastern mysticism But the new age comes from Eastern mysticism, which is basically this old ancient practice like Tibetan Buddhism Hinduism like Raja yoga. He's like really quality old school ancient practices Which has the foundation and the even gurus who are teaching that and scriptures and everything But they are like coming from the evil one is the same new age is more like the predigested practices for Western people Right, okay, which is like money involved, you know, you pay for yoga It's like like playing a little bit. You don't that dig deeper into the truth But the real thing is like you dig deep so I was like in the middle Okay, in that so yeah, and and these practices like what are they focused on and they focus on the soul evolution Basically, it's like saying that we have we are not here. We are living not one life We are here for many lives and we ever we are growing in these lives We die and we raise again the next incarnation to become better person And also they believe that they are kind of I would say like mostly that we are gods But yes, we don't realize that that's why we need to grow grow grow on our spirituality to grow and to Self-actualize and to reach the consciousness of Buddha consciousness of Krishna or Christ even they even teach that Yeah, yes, yes, they even it reached that they're teaching to how to become like Christ But in like Christ consciousness, they don't teach anything about conscience or repentance They teach that you can make it by your own All the focus It brings back to yourself and about what you need to do in a way In a way I would say that they also teach about love and how you have to love each other and there are some good points Which are taken for the bad things, but basically they're teaching that you can do it on your own Can do it on your own and all these practices are actually self-centered in a way. They are self-centered because They saying that when you get enlightened then you serve people Then you get enlightened and like focus to you to you practice to you now. Did it ever happen to you? That you got so enlightened that you started to just serve people and love people of course And how can you continue with your testimony? How did it like after those two years of search and being involved in all that stuff? What happened next? Yes, I did you end up? Yes, so These two years was happening really intense for me like 2016 17 and 18 even was really intense Like I was like just going like I was wearing crystals. I was going like as a vegetarian I start my like experiments with nutrition because devil put the thought that the animals are making me dirty Spiritually so need to eat like eat like high vibrational foods to keep me like very spiritual and very clear very like pure purity comes from food and I was doing all I was eating fruits and I was doing this meditation yoga breathing exercises Wearing crystals. I was like really like searching for this truth The mind main obstacle was searching for the truth, but I end up after these two years of this crazy experiences like I was end up like drinking juices Last year actually for 35 days green green juices just just juices because I thought it may it will make me more More spiritual more like more open for the for the vibrational for the for the high-frequency Vibrations of the spirits so what happened after 35 days juicy after these after this experience I Ended up like in the hell actually, but I would want to like the highlight that it was not physical hell only I mean like if you combine like this high High-five this fasting this real harsh fasting and also the spiritual practices as meditation you can go crazy You like basically you're like not Mentally emotionally spiritually like really bad condition and in this condition. I was really desperate. I was hopeless I couldn't stand any people around me I was annoyed by everyone by my family by my friends since I was in business I was isolated myself. I could allow me to isolate myself in my room So instead of loving people you were I hate people But I didn't want to admit that even because it was so hard. I was trying to love people I was doing all these practices to love people and I was practicing and reading to love people more I ended up like hating them in my heart, but loving them from the outside It was like big conflict and then like I just happened like I Was interested in Christ. I Happened to know that Christ was real in a way, but I didn't didn't know him in a person Yeah, I just know about him that it was a Christ, but the devil put me other Christ My Christ that time was like mystic Christ enlightened master new age Christ Christ consciousness This kind of Christ not biblical at all. I loved him But I didn't know him. Can you talk about this a little bit more and For those who will be watching maybe Tell us About that mystical Christ that new age teaches just a little bit more. Yeah, he who do they believe he Wow, basically if you go to India into these ushrams They love Christ. They say yeah, Christ is good. Christ is okay. And it's like a genre classic You say like yeah, he's good, but the same is Krishna and Buddha. He's one of the one of which He's one of the one of the God heads. So basically his consciousness his Yeah, his spirituality is the same as Buddhas or Krishna's So so like basically the teacher that he's enlightened master Actually, and he got enlightened in India by other kindles pitch to like God Okay, and this Christ. Yeah, it's the same is God But he allows his tolerant and he allows like Buddha and Krishna to be around him because they are the same and He's like also like incarnating like So completely opposite completely opposite. Yes, and and you can become as a Christ yourself if you follow his teachings like mysticism teaching