 of amendments because I feel like unless we start to plug these holes yeah this is gonna keep biting us in the behind and okay so before we continue I want to unplug everything they just said so first of all let's just address the fact that this is this is a daytime TV show hosted by a bunch of idiots okay these people are obviously morons they think they're very smart especially this one she's the most narcissistic of all of them and you know they think they're very smart you and I all of us may think these people are idiots and they're raving lunatics and nobody takes them serious it's not true unfortunately lots of people take them serious and you got to realize they're on the national airwaves that it's ABC there is I essentially look at all these outlets now as government entities so these people are spokespeople of the government you may as well look at them that way and they are popularizing the idea of making a constitutional amendment I don't think they understand how that works but they want to make they want to change the Constitution so that if you're in prison you can't be president and it's interesting they want to do that because they're currently trying to put their biggest political rival in prison so that he can't run for president now normally you might hear this you might be like oh a president shouldn't be able to run from prison come on like that's crazy like if they're in prison they shouldn't be able to yeah but think about it this way the left wants to outlaw their political opposition so they want to basically arrest right now it's Trump okay and I'm not even gonna get into the minutiae of that case because really it's so early we don't really know I will be covering that extensively when it starts but right now we don't really know so I'm not gonna get into that but right now let's just look at it as it's never happened before okay no the president has never been charged and arrested with a crime of the for a former president it's never happened this is the first time and it just happens to be a guy who they've been trying to take out literally since the day he won the election I always try to point out to people go back and look the day he won the election they start talking about impeachment they start talking about oh my god he stole the election with Russia so look they've been trying to put him away from the beginning give me one second need to wet the whistle a little bit smoke Steve get ready I'm almost ready for you bud so just look at it this way it's just what I've been saying for forever they want one party rule in this country authoritarian rule they want to get rid of political opponents which means the Republican Party conservatives horrible right wingers everybody they essentially want you thinking that the only good human being is one there's a member of their party this is classic communist stuff guys and ladies look at the mouse revolution it's probably the clearest example there are actually a lot of people who escaped that regime who are here in America now who are trying to warn people that it's the same things happening now but people like Sonny hosted on the view they are foot soldiers for this movement and they do want to arrest and in prison everybody they don't agree with right now they're they're saying it's Donald Trump because he's so bad he had secret documents he had classified documents okay but we know that Biden and Hillary and all those people did too they're always gonna have a reason why that's different so let's just go for it you know it really is gonna take the people saying hey listen because if I can't vote when I come out of jail very American you know I mean it's it's some people argue that the Constitution is not a breathing and living thing that it's sort of stagnant I of course feel differently I feel that it's a living and breathing thing because we didn't know that there was no the vote cell phones there should be a has to grow with the country yeah so but this what has happened I know this is really weird but my I've been having strange thoughts what I think is really for us as a nation is over the past ten years weird stuff has been happening in the country to show us where the problems are oh here we go pace past special attention here I will remind you that John Stewart said white people are a problem the problem with white people now she's saying she's having weird thoughts with the Goldberg on the view and these are telling her what where the problems are okay so you might have had some sort of like agreement with her early on like oh man the president should not be in prison and you know running being president there should be some sort of block against that of course that you know then that just basically gives them a reason to find a reason to put all their political opponents in prison okay but not she's been having these weird thoughts about these problems fact that we have this situation now with you know who yeah is there to tell us hey you'll have a problem these kinds of things are going to start coming up because these kinds of people people who are not reading the Constitution other people don't know oh yeah how this country right oh yeah oh yeah they don't know the Constitution they don't know all they don't know how the country's run them not whoopie Goldberg or the view and are now starting to get in because I just there's some things that you know we'll fight over because we have two different opinions but there's some stuff that as an American you just can't do you can't do it and it's stuff why are you so vague about it we're a very young country I mean anybody that's why I'm gonna stop because there's nothing she has to add to it but my issue here is it's just what I've been saying that they want to outlaw political opposition the problem here is it may sound good and fluffy to some people what they're saying but you got to understand that they're gonna paint anybody did they disagree with in these terms so I'm gonna bring in my my cohort here Steve you there Steve you there yo what's up John what's up how you doing riddle there I am there you guys are I apologize for intruding I kind of intruding this is totally open anybody wants to come okay I I'm you're probably busy but I just that message you good to ask if I could join I might not have seen it I'm not sure why did you message me here the IDM do really yeah oh yeah I just I didn't see that's all it's all good yeah I didn't I didn't know if you guys were gaming or not I don't want to interrupt no we're just talking I just did a little intro about the fact you know I always talk about how they want to outlaw political opposition and on the view today I don't know if you saw it yeah I did that's just another one of those things and you might say you might dismiss it like it's just the view at some you know cadre and morons talking on daytime tell but you got to start looking at the TV as government propaganda it is and they are they are representatives of that so like when they're out there saying that assume that's what they want to make normal it's absolutely true yeah yeah isn't that crazy though like what do you think about that Steve well can we um I just want to readdress some things that you were saying yeah go for it yeah yeah go for it anything so you are on a little bit unclear about your opinion of somebody running for president from prison but you did sort of allude to the fact that felons shouldn't be able to run well well I didn't say about felons felons probably shouldn't be able to run but that's somebody's already been charged and convicted okay I would say so here's the thing so when it comes to Trump and presidents we're in completely uncharted territory right now right yeah it's crazy so and it's it's happening in a situation where all of us predicted it and it's it's a polarized situation where we're like I've said it a couple times I've been saying for like 20 years that they want to start locking up their political opponents now they're doing it like I just a part of me is like well if Trump does something wrong he's not about he shouldn't be above the law right but then there's another part of me that's like well that may be true but at the same time it seems like all these other establishment characters are doing things the same way and getting away with it and so there's a part of me that's like is it the same way yeah it's unfair treatment I mean if you're gonna accuse you know well yeah no no I'm just saying like well first of all yeah for one it's like this one guy they've been trying to get on anything they can possibly get including introducing actual Russian disinformation and disseminating it through the country in an attempt to like torpedo his tour his presidency like how am I supposed to overlook that you know what I mean like yeah oh like Adam Schiff and that too and I understand I've heard the excuse the Republicans are giving for that and like wait what's hard well they're saying they're saying oh they're these are the people who took a principle stand against political targeting and this is political targeting which is bullshit what that sounds like horse what do you mean doesn't make any sense what I mean political it's obvious political targeting and Adam Schiff has been proven wrong the steel dossier right all that stuff that's how I see it but they're trying to say that they wouldn't want they wouldn't want the Republicans to do this to are they want the Democrats to do to them so they're not going to turn the other she can do it no no I'm sick of that shit yeah I'm sick because we're all playing it it's a it's a mental tactic to be like oh well you're supposed to be the better one right now we're gonna fuck them over anyways they've been doing that shit to us forever like the right since I first got in a rush limbaugh back in like the late 90s like they've been doing that shit to it he told me about that that's where you started to yeah he started to see the other right well I'm just saying like they've been doing they've been pulling that shit since then like same game yeah what do you think Steve yeah I mean honestly I agree with you guys they are basically using like some sort of weaponization to get rid of their political opponents I do think that's bullshit I do think there's things that I can't say that either side is squeaky clean by any means I agree I agree but it would be better for me politically if there'd be more people like less on the fringes on the outside and a little closer on the middle you know like a little but that's that's what we need now is people that are like mostly in the middle you know like the regular voter the regular person right here's the problem those people don't know shit about anything it's true that's absolutely fucking true they don't know what the hell especially these days like they don't know what the hell's going on yeah and they're and I feel like I feel like the media and the Democrats stuff play on that and the state whatever you want to call it absolutely but I mean yeah yeah absolutely they absolutely do and I mean we're to go from here you know it's like hey by the way real quick riddle I'm sorry to cut it anybody wants to jump in I'll put a link in the chair you guys can join us anybody I'm just leaving it open tonight is that in the description or in the chat yeah it's gonna be in chat here in just a second oh yeah go ahead yeah yeah it's all good I'd rather have more people yeah I just want to I just want to bring people in tonight I'm I'm I gotta tell you guys I am fucking wasted I am tired did you just did you just smoke a bowl or what no I'm smoking a bowl I saw one way I'm not wasting like that I'm just wasted from kids like my voice my voice it's hard for me to talk I'm like cuz I've been yelling at kids all day oh dude you just had the twins right I didn't have twins I just had a newborn but like my other three are ravenous and they're always fighting so I have to constantly yell at them stop fighting go outside plan swing stop stop doing that you go to your room you're gonna time out you know what I mean like it's just like all day yeah I don't blame you so like I need other people to talk give me a little rest my throat really hurts from talking I got you but I have to do the stream anyway because you know this is Thursday yeah we're live streaming you're live streaming yeah my streaming you're live dude hello 13 I don't know I don't even know I I'm not even looking at how many people are watching out even though there's 80 people watching there's 80 people hey everybody what's up hello the the 40 that are actual people and the rest that are right so do you agree with the fact that he did have classified documents um yeah he probably did but here's my thing about Trump but he probably did but I don't really don't think there was like nefarious purpose I think this guy is just a goofball he's like the real life he's like the real life King Ralph you remember that movie King Ralph he's like the real life King Ralph and I think that he I think he had documents that were pertaining to him I I really think this is something that all the ex-presidents have taken part in but they are choosing to throw the book at Trump and hold him to standards they have not held other we're not but this is why I don't want to cut this is why I didn't want to talk about the specifics of that because it's so early we don't really know yeah we don't know much but apparently what it seems like anyways oh should I say allegedly is that he did actually cover his bases covered his ass and well apparently they just wanted to say that because he's Donald Trump you know like they he actually had it secured he's got he didn't leave it in a garage like what's his what's his name did allegedly oh yeah Biden so Biden yeah he had a bunch so this is my issue this is comes to the crux Steve like maybe Trump did do something he wasn't supposed to okay but why did they choose maybe but like they're by prosecuting it they're saying there was nefarious ominous there must have been some serious ominous reasons intent behind this that they felt was worth charging right yeah right yeah but at the same time right but it's it's it's definitely a slippery slope because they do admit that they all have had them it's I guess it's the way that he handled them and he was deceitful about it possibly and he didn't return them as quickly as he may I don't know like you think he was you think you you think shop was here's the thing I don't know here's the thing it's like think about it let me let me put this all out to you and think about it in this term you all remember high school right oh yeah everybody remembers high school junior high whatever elementary even y'all remember there was always an in-crowd and then if you weren't in the in-crowd you're on the you were at the other right yeah okay Trump is the other in Washington okay do you really think that these other former presidents haven't done everything that Trump has done Trump did it because he knew the other ones did it and then like these communications that are supposedly so damning to Trump when you read them in the in that context like a regular King Ralph guy who's now in presidency but knows that like all the other presidents are getting away with these things and then he asks his his lawyer can we do what these other presidents have done and get away with it he asked him that like that that's yeah I can't remember the exact wording of the recording but that's what they think they're so they've so got him on but I'm like looking at it like no he's asking them like they've done this can I do it you know what I mean like just like we would like any of us might ask that question and they're trying to be like oh it's just like every single other thing they've gone after Trump for the whole Russian collusion thing was all based on shit like this you know it's like I just I'm really scared for our country and it's not because of Trump it's because these people who are dead set on carrying out their agenda because they think they're gonna save everything they think they're gonna save the earth to save democracy it's it's it's straight up Marxism disguises you know being nice and virtue which is evocism basically yeah and actually I wanted to talk a little bit about that but did you have something you want to say Steve oh I'm just chatting with old mill over here in the sidebar oh yeah I saw me find it real quick I I came across this CCP survivor woman who's like an activist here in America now CCP oh that's now you're talking yeah well it's because you mentioned that and it's like you know you're right and let me find her post let me see if I know it's so weird I liked it and I retweeted it I thought but I can't find it so that I said no no it's the CCP survivor I'm trying to find it now on Twitter she she made a post about how the woke movement and especially the LGBT flag and all the stuff associated with that remind her of when she was growing up in Maoist controlled China during the after the Maoist Revolution and how when she would go around in public she had to carry this little book around little red book and the book was a Mao it was a Mao say tongue book and when you carried it it showed like your allegiance to that movement if you didn't do that they would come after you with the mob and they'd be like why aren't you sufficiently showing your allegiance and I feel like we're living through something very very similar to that and she does too and that's why I wanted to show you because she's like yeah I this all feels very familiar to me I'm trying to find it right now I will find it you guys yeah no worries man I need you guys to talk though oh okay yeah okay well what are you okay smoke Steve I'm just gonna I'm just gonna be out in the open this is why I need you guys on here with me it's like take little breaks no no problem questions but I'm going to try to try to answer to yeah yeah and chat what was he talking about right there I got into reading chat and I went into zombie mode well well smoke Steve we're living through our Maoist Revolution and that's something I have to leave for a while now and there's right and there's several CCP survivors including Weiwei and this woman who I'm trying to find right now she was just posting earlier today about how things she experienced growing up and Maoist CCP controlled China reminds her of things happening here in America right now yeah no no's correct like that's what I was trying to say before because well I'm not sure if I'm being picked up here hello yeah we hear you all right I'm looking at the green yeah we got you oh it's just lag my bet okay yeah so Neil was saying yeah Trump had it or it was already locked up he was in communication with I forget the name of the organization there's a separate one not separate but like it's still part of the government but he had everything locked up properly he was following the procedure and then all the sudden the FBI does all this stuff and comes in and I don't know breaks that their own lock that they he they ordered it to happen time and then all of a sudden now he's negligent because it wasn't locked up is that true it was actually his lock their lock oh wait hold on allegedly I gotta say allegedly don't want to get in with trouble here so then yeah you can't confirm that it was an FBI lock that's apparently what was happening comes in and yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry no it was it was a lock that the FBI told him to do he just locked it up right and we're not talking about like a little little switch lock or like a little dial lock or whatever it's actually legitimately put put into place right the seal has been broken I was reading that as another way I'm like do I need to pee right now anyway I can't see the name on the point point is nil had a point though it was he did legitimately lock it up and apparently the FBI came and kind of destroy that lock or whatever the hell it was the procedure was I mean I'm not doubting it they're like there were two CCP agents at Mar-a-Lago doesn't make or approve locks that that's not what I said yeah I'm sorry not you my bad I'm sorry Steve it's okay I'm talking about the two Chinese nationals who were caught at Mar-a-Lago with cash and hard drives and all kinds of other different things that was what a couple of years I guess it was was it during Trump's presidency or shortly after I can't remember but I mean they were given time come on camera by the way come on camera so people have something look at here turned up over to the camera on camera oh come on give him something look at a little eye candy hey can I ask you guys about something hold on we're gonna get liberal clock in here hold on oh god here we go well here we go let's ask him about China can hate Trump all your wants but does he know about China or is China just a stigma for being a Trump supporter okay so I've invited liberal clock hopefully we get some some debate in here but I wanted to show you guys this real quick I found what I was talking about okay so here we go her name is I don't know how you say it Z van fleet her name is Z van fleet she's Chinese by birth American by choice survivor of Mao's cultural revolution the feather of liberty and she says this is an old photo I wore Mao's badge and held his little red book to demonstrate that Mao was our master and he had apps my absolute loyalty yes I had to be the property of the CCP and fodder for the government and she was responding to Elon Musk post that our kids are not fodder for the government he was responding he was responding to the White House's recent videos saying that these are our kids not somebody else's kids they're our kids I don't know if you guys saw those videos did you guys see those yeah this is okay well I mean what that's where do we start what so yeah so essentially the the LGBT plus Q movement which when I talk when we talk about this I don't personally mean you know gay people or trans people or what any of those people per se when I when I hear LGBT I think almost like just like I would the IRA or ISIS or any of these other acronym groups okay LGBTQ plus whatever accurate you know that's constantly changing it's a cult it's a political organization it's a militia whatever the hell I want to you know that's what I think it is and they want control of kids and it's very much like the CCP they definitely like I've been seeing these mainstream media articles mm-hmm yeah let me show one yeah they don't actually help actually help with their support that's usually how it goes NBC's imposing these articles about here we go yeah about suppose an anti-LGBT what's up look oh yeah I heard it they're talking about these drag queens who are saying they can't practice their art form because of these anti-LGBT you know policies or but the policies are about performing for kids oh here we go I got it here we go so drag performers tell Stephanie rule all they want is basic respect as a growing number of anti-LGBT drag bills threaten their art form and livelihoods okay so what we're talking about here and I have it up on screen right now what we're talking about here are laws that are about adult men performing their sexual fetish for children that's the laws they can't do it and what you're seeing now I hate to put it up there I really do it's disgusting it's fucking disgusting but it's a oh I always remember this it's a 13 year old boy and dressed like a hooker oh my surrounded by gay men at a gay bar at an event sponsored by a gay sex app he's dancing for these guys flashing them over and over and his little mini skirt he's a 13 year old boy okay and you'll there's even a point here I'm you'll see it if you watch he actually he's scraped by one of these guys like nuts right there and the guy gets really excited about it look at that he even grabs is like his nuts he's like oh you touch my nuts he gets really excited look at that it's so fucking that right there yeah why hold on you'll yeah you very subtle I'm yeah I'm I'm like so fucking disgusted by this but I feel like it's got to be seen you got to see it to understand what the fuck is going on right now it's messed up yeah it is messed up so when they talk about drag shows for kids yeah well they talk about drag shows like they're harmless they're not okay and this is fucking terrible yeah part of my language but damn so but if you're not for that then so being for that the pride flag that's that little book she's carrying right there all right that's that's enough of that yeah well yeah I'm not I turned that off but my point was that like oh my bad it's right my point is that like you have to be for that or your that's that little book she's carrying right there yeah you know and she and even her herself he this guy says I'm sorry but you are now free and she's like good question are we cuz she's and I've seen other stuff she's posted you know and even away way let me show you that one second make punches in the face great yeah well apparently that is a thing it's called sucker punching or the knockout game it's done by the wrong people I make it back all right yeah yeah you're good yeah I'll be our back one sec I'll be back guys yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm just trying to get a clip up here real quick but go ahead in defense of some gay people especially some that I have right and I'm fine with gay people already said that they don't want to be in a crew of people dancing with a child like that right I know they don't have a drink watching a movie just like you and I did maybe you know I'm with you oh they're most of them are just like every fucking out but other person just like us nothing else separates them from you or I I think that this group that you're showing is a small concentrated abrasive extremely abrasive crew you know what I'm saying yeah it is absolutely making a lot more people than themselves look bad by association and I think that sucks because you know there's a lot of people that aren't like that that are of that persuasion certainly absolutely and I was saying earlier that you know I'm totally cool with gay people I don't mean there's folks don't understand how many gay people and trans and all that stuff all those different identities are not with the the LGBT movement the LGBT movement plus whatever that itself is almost like you can look at it just like look at every other act political acronym group in the world they are part of that the IRA you know the SSA the ISIS whatever it may be like that I feel like and I'm not mentioning those to compare them to ISIS that's just what I can come up with I'll top my head but there's you know tons of different political groups with acronym names LGBT is part of that and not every gay person name to more different crew of groups right there the one you just name right well my point right well my yeah like my point was like they're just another political acronym group you know yeah and and so like all gay people are all so-called trans people all you know non-binary queer whatever you want to say they're they don't all sign up with that movement oh it definitely don't that would be like a signing it's kind of ridiculous to just label everybody as one thing like that I think there's so many that it's nuts that that video you just showed is it's extremely disturbing and whoever that underage person's parents are should be questioned that kid fucking immediately yeah that kid has been celebrated and interviewed on all the major networks yeah it's fucked up man it's one of those things it's one of those examples where I'm like I know I'm on the right side of this it's like I am that makes me sure that I am on the right side and they are the bad guys that that's one of those videos where I hate to show it but it's just bizarre people can see it and it's yeah it's shocking and the fact when you look at Twitter or any of you watch TV the news organizations when they talk about opposition to drag events and stuff they never show that do they they never will in a million years hey I want to welcome real quick liberal clock thanks buddy for coming I was hoping you would show up are you there he might be afk right now anyway here I'm toggling between talking to my niece because her and I are playing Minecraft together it's all good oh nice you guys nice man I'm glad you're doing that I play with my well my daughter plays it constantly she loves Minecraft she plays on the switch mostly with my kids I play Fortnite though I love such a great game we we we play as a family and we are the four rattlesnakes we do that we all know you know it that's that's that's adorable it's funny but it's adorable no I know it is and she wants to live stream so bad my oldest daughter she's got a little station over here in front of mine and we're gonna do something I'm putting together something I think she would be I have a feeling she's gonna catch on she's just the cutest like smartest funniest little thing ever and she you know what I mean like but I don't really want to put her on camera you know what I mean I'm I'm trying to like come up with something I don't know she's we're gonna do something with it but yeah I'll tell you all about that what happens oh I don't want I don't want it to put her on the internet but she's so badly like of all the years you spent on the internet right no from exactly before exactly what this cesspool has to offer no I know but I came out fine right I came out of a fire I feel I feel better well well I don't know yeah no no no I'm with you I'm with you all that yeah it's actually really scary how how many views a little kid will get for doing like the most mundane things mundane things well she's just gonna play Minecraft and that's true that's kind of it's kind of creepy though it is creepy like that's a good point like that's why I'm hesitant I feel like a bad dad if I let her do it so here's the thing so her and I we made a couple little videos on my gaming channel which I don't do much with these days it's it's from the old back in the day and but we did a Russ video where her and I played and we did trap bases and those are my most heavily viewed videos on there they're big views and I'm like yeah I haven't feeling if she did a channel she would it would catch on but I don't want her necessarily to do that yeah but I'm torn I'm just torn I'm like yeah like cuz I know there's a bit of a scare factor in all this that's not real the thing about it is the thing about it is is that yes there are going to be people who are unfortunately watching them for the wrong reasons however are you gonna really let that ruin whatever experience your daughter could have with streaming no no that's what I'm saying I'm gonna let her do it and for sure like I think she could do something she's she's funny she's smart she's creative entertaining she's only like she's only 98 years old but she you know what I mean like I want to give her a chance at it I wanna let her try it she wants to you better be there though no I will totally no no I already told her I already told her if we do it I'll be there playing with her well what happened no no look he'll come back yeah you know there's that little kid the little kid who like sells toys at Walmart and stuff and he made he must have made like 300 million dollars on YouTube and he's like nine and he sells like well not him but his you know it's like an egg full of like slime and all kinds of weird shit that you can buy at YouTube and not at YouTube at Walmart and are you familiar with this kid which kid he's got a YouTube channel that gets like hundreds of millions of views it's unbelievable dude no I'm not here you guys are you on camera we're probably gonna get some dicks on camera I'm almost sure we're going to yeah so that's why I just left it open I'm we're gonna get some like but we're gonna get some but fucking or something I mean I'm already a figuratively a dick so that's enough right here come here's a dick well there we go oh look at that it's a slightly shaved dick look at that I actually there you are I'm glad you're here Steve thanks buddy I appreciate it why don't you cowards come on come on clock anyway I do want to kind of double back just because the topic of the stream is one of you calls for ending democracy I don't know how many my coward because I don't want to see my face on the internet that's well I just want to kind of I just want to kind of circle back on this and talk about the fact that like this is just another kind of chip against democracy actual democracy we're not democracy right but you know what I'm saying they they are the actual threat to that and they're doing exactly what I've always predicted they would do like they're just saying like oh we have to shut down like in the clip I showed whoopee Goldberg starts out by saying we should amend the Constitution to keep people from being in jail from being president and then by the end of it they're saying like everybody like they mentioned to Santhus and other people they're like these people are and they mentioned major major Taylor I can't see her name Marjorie Taylor greed and all these people Josh Holly and they're like they're horrible people they shouldn't be in there we need a way to deal with these problems so like they started out with that and that's where they ended up in the clip and I'm just telling you that's what they want to do they just want to I think most of us understand this now but like they they literally want to just like cast themselves as the standard and anybody opposing that as such big threats that they should be imprisoned outlawed and maybe even worse probably worse who's this who bestang Tuberville guy who's like going against all the fucking EOD spending what's your thoughts on him EOD spending what yes to Tuberville Tuberville Tommy wait so do you disagree with the idea that an amendment to this allow people from who are in jail from running from president like do you disagree well well let me explain why in this particular instance I'd be at least very skeptical of it as you should be because yeah no president has ever been charged first of all and then the first president that's charged is this one president who they've been trying to like do away with since the literally the day he was first elected and so that should be and the fact that they're going after him for things that we know for a fact Joe Biden is guilty of Hillary Clinton is guilty of Mike Pence is guilty of Obama is guilty of all without without all of that like ignoring all these other things that it's art you know we can argue about right but on the principle itself do you believe that people who are in jail should be able to run for president like over in jail for felonies is what it's an interesting it's an interesting thing but it's an interesting question which I would normally normally obviously most of us would be like no but like the people asking the question are people who obviously want to get rid of their political opponents by law impossible so I don't personally see a reason for section amendment to be honest right normally like there's never been a reason for it right yeah why is it suddenly there's a B for it no I well here's the thing I honestly do not care if somebody is being indicted or whatever and run for president or as even in jail but I also believe that people who are in jail should be able to vote which is something that I think that you probably also disagree well right is more of an impact on them running because I don't think anybody's really gonna win the presidency if they're in jail like that's probably an optics you know negative for them let's go one at a time please okay sorry a test for that I just have I just have a question of that before one thing is Trump wouldn't be able to vote for himself but he could become president that doesn't really know if he's in prison he can't for a felony right potentially okay can I but there's some there's obvious simply yeah go ahead riddle well I just think that it should probably be based on the type of crime that it is agreed but so but the implications of charging and a president a former president so and a political opponent of the guy so the fact that Trump is the main political opponent of the guy currently in charge who is in office under dubious circumstances that at this point are pretty valid you know like there's a lot of pretty valid circumstances that he's illegitimate oh that's how like how how is this country supposed to remain united under those circumstances clock what do you think well I mean I think that not having entire media apparatuses lying about like things like the elect 2020 election being stolen or what about the 2016 election do you think that was bad that the media lied about that be installed well I don't think that the media was saying that like voting machines were rigged or they were at the beginning at the beginning there were no no no I Nancy Pelosi Nancy Pelosi said it was hacked okay so there was a there was a two that were actually held in 2016 so you're you are agreeing now you are wait wait wait no no there were this is a fact there was two voting precincts and 2016 that were actually hacked nothing really which one is but that was a thing was that what she was talking Pelosi said the election was hacked okay I mean I don't know the quote I don't know what she was referring to can I can I read it to you you want to read the quote you have it in front of you yeah I got it all right well what's she said she said I lied I don't have in front of me what's that I'm getting it what's that I'm getting it I know for a fact you said it what's that why is this so hard to find this is such a hold on all right so I see one it says hijacked is that what you're talking about no hijack there's no question Congress has she said hi okay hijacked maybe hijacked what you say read it again read it our election was hijacked there's no question Congress hold on there's no question Congress has a duty to protect our democracy follow the facts sorry just I think that might be it okay I thought it was I thought for sure she said hacks though let's see what the reply say cuz maybe they're cuz they could simply be to thank you talking about I can't find it so it was hijacked you're right she did say hijacked that's crazy that's crazy but she knows it still but you know what she knows what she's doing our election was hijacked like what does that mean it's very it's suggestive and also means plausible leaves room for plausible tonight ability you know what I mean yeah basically all politicians but she wasn't but this is but we she had stuck on this one tweet because we went through four years of the media claim on it because that was a very big part of your spew well no my spew it was not a big part it's just one part like my my the big part the big part of my spew is that the media went along went along with a fucking Democrat bullshit for four years and what happened what happened when the investigation happened and it came out that there was no proof of collusion with Russia and Trump what did the media do they continued they still do to this day they still do that's actually they actually do they still do that they say that that Russia interfered in the 2016 election yeah that's also mainstream media narrative yep but yeah so the Republicans just voted let's just get this out of the way Republicans ended up blocking a censure of shift the argument out there that I've seen is that they were turning the other cheek and proving that it's upholding the standard rather that you should not do this you know that's bullshit we obviously have tons of infiltrators in the Republican Party you know so anyway well shifted lie to your credit check even even if the media isn't still on the whole Trump Russia hoax the fact that they were for many years means why do they just get the Democratic voters now still believe it right they do and the polls show that and polls of the 2016 election I believe it was like 67% of Democrats believed it was not legitimate in fact and you can find those polls after every last Democrat election right same number real quick when people say that Russia interfered with the election do you think that they're saying that Trump and and Russia colluded to interfere with election or do you think they're simply talking about the things that have been proven to be true such as the social media campaign or and no that's not true that hasn't been proven true if you're proving it's improving false oh my goodness yeah okay okay hey hold on hold on hold on hold on liberal clock is he's he's hanging with a big guy here he's not totally up to date he's got to find out that now that it turns out the the Russian social media thing turned out to be bonk go ahead and find that out real quick click all of it was this is what's what happens clock when you hang with the big boys okay so so what is your center report Russia use I mean I'm seeing a bunch of stuff that's saying it was true but this was no no it's not true no no look up look up Russia social media Trump election you're gonna find they found it had no which is interesting because I was asking that question at the very beginning like okay you're saying that the Russia interfered in the election to what extent tell me how many votes they changed I got one from 2021 the headline intelligence report all right I'll do it once I like did this I'll get it one second I'll get it okay yeah please God I don't know which report you're talking about I mean if they're locked if some idiots are willing to believe them I mean come on but it was all lies it was all bullshit wait so so so Russia didn't put didn't deploy social media here's the thing here's the thing well they did it against both sides I mean they were they were like these are things we were pointing out at the time like there were Russia's funded anti Trump rallies and pro-Trump rallies okay in fact Russia and famously Russia funded a particular anti-Trump rally that the media really pumped up MSNBC and CNN really pumped up this particular rally that ended up being funded by Russia did you know about that well right now I don't even know about that wait wait no no answer that question did you know about that you won't answer it don't check real quick you are giving me another factoid that I'm supposed to look up when you have even provided evidence of your first one yeah I'm getting it one second I'm doing it right now I for some reason it's like like Pelosi didn't say that the election was hacked that has been proven to be false so now I can't find evidence of this other claim that you're making so why am I going to jump from that to this other claim that you're right I'm getting it right now here I got I got I got I got right now I just got it finally I don't know why you got a word just right because Google tries to fucking hide it they just do you got a word it just right or else the fucking Google hide that shit or else girls through 15 pages right you yeah exactly it's fucking bullshit like we're living in the fucking Soviet Union this country hold on yeah I'm putting a main chat clock it's in the main chat do you see it from the intercept there it is there's more actually it's not just that one well this guy's just from the headline those Russian Twitter bots didn't do shit in 2016 okay so this isn't saying here's a Washington post here Washington post hold on here you go no I'm not I'm not even Washington post wait I'm not even saying that the source isn't it's bad I don't mind that you use the intercept what I am saying is that this article just from reading the headline does not say what you're saying what you're claiming it Washington post Russian trolls had little influence in 2016 so look I'm not arguing the influence of what the Russians did what I am arguing is that they did run a social media campaign whether or not it influenced the election I've always thought that that was a dumb point I've always disagreed with that but what I am saying is that when people say that Russia interfered with the election they are talking about real things that happened now whether or not had an impact that is probably not the case it's probably not true that it had a big impact but at least they are talking about real things that happened unlike what Trump it's talking about when you can just ask you one question okay I get I go what you're saying I'm sorry I hate to catch you off but like do you think it's at all odd how when Biden got elected suddenly they were saying it was the most perfect election ever and all that you don't think that was weird no I do not because are you serious that was the weirdest shit ever I felt like I was watching Twilight Zone so the reason why I don't think it's odd is because we had one of the candidates who was making bombastic claims about voting machines being rigged and people stuffing bombastic boxes bombastic claims about voting machines being rigged people stuffing ballot boxes with fake ballots and which led to this election being one of the most audited one of the most yeah gosh what is the word I'm looking for I'll just go about it one of the most looked at elections ever in the history of America and they found no evidence that any of that stuff that he claimed happened first of all I just want to I just want to ask you like just throw all that out the window and don't you think it's weird at all that like for one side the evidence is always damning and for the other side it's always there's something reason that's different you don't think that's weird about the way the media covers these things well just yeah everything like just not just this one thing but like everything everything you're saying is like you can apply this to like everything when it comes down like Republicans versus the Democrats in the media like everything you're saying is like just exactly what always happens there's this list of reasons of details why it's completely different you don't you don't see that you don't think it's weird or question it at all I think that there's definitely a bias in the way that it's way it's more than just a bias dude like they're literally trying to everything everything everything I just said like like you had to throw all of that out because you could not come up with a reason why it was wrong why what was wrong everything I just said the whole spew that I made wait when I was what was the point of that what was the point of that you summarize it like you asked me do I think it's weird that that this election is being called the most perfect no I do not because it is the the most the most combed over election we went over this selection how it was conducted with fine tooth comb and they found nothing no yeah let me tell you something that people stop you're just telling me that the people investigated themselves and found they did nothing wrong let me tell you something clock before this election happened I said I said multiple times a hundred times that when they won the next election they would say it was totally fine it was totally perfect and then they did that like do you think I'm psychic they just like that's just how it's gonna go like the only legitimate election is one that they win and not only is it legitimate but it's super legitimate are you making the claim that the investigations were fraudulent yes it's all bullshit okay I mean you you have no proof for that claim right well well maybe well they might I'm not necessarily saying the election was bullshit I just I'm not saying the election itself was like rigged I'm saying that the media the government the Democrats they rigged it by suppressing like legitimate news stories legitimate news organizations and and stories that can hurt by and then they manipulate the election in his favor and suppressing people and opinions they didn't like which they would continue to be doing if Elon had not taken over Twitter so those were not the claims that Trump was making he might have been making those claims and a Trump he might have been making those claims in addition to saying things like there was ballot stuffing there was voting machines that were rigged yeah I'm not I'm not any of that I'm not any of that yeah I'm not I'm not making any of those claims okay so so you understand how that is incredibly different than when you say okay so what you said about Twitter Twitter and the media suppressing negative stories to Biden I can give you that and it kind of proves my point if you were to say the election was rigged because of that and you have you know the whole hundred Biden laptop thing as your example then I can't really argue that I could say I don't think that that specific thing was election rigging but I can't argue with the fact of the matter that you're bringing up where the laptop story was suppressed on social media for a far right well how can you not call that election rigging though like that was happening in the heat of the election yeah yeah well what I'm saying is that that is an okay statement compared to they were stuffing the ballots right I never made that I never said okay now let's let's take that logic and and apply it to somebody who's who may say Russia interfered with the election well they did run a social media campaign right they did hack the DNC the DNC servers and leak all those emails right they did hack voting precinct me ask you about that can I ask you about that real quick why is that a bad thing for the American people to see the corruption between me and the Democrats do you remember do you remember what was leaked do you remember was leaked I don't think I don't think we'll come back we'll come back to this our hack but what what I am saying is that at the claim that Russia interfered with the election if you are talking about those specific factoids and you're you're coming to the conclusion they interfered with election because of those very true factoids then that is a much more legitimate claim than then the 2020 election was stolen because of okay the ballot stuffing and voting machines right okay yeah I agree with you yeah I agree hey riddle it's good to see you by the way buddy I never seen you man this is like yeah it's the first time ever you never actually see me off by I've never seen you I've never seen that I can think of you kind of look like the CEO to a noble goal do you look like I thought you were for a minute I'm like did he just think I've been I've been here for ever just watching your channel so I can go that's cool man I'm glad you're here anyway but look wait okay what did I what point was I gonna bring up with you again I forgot okay anyway we got let's move on then I wanted to bring up a point with you and you you hit on something there what was it the DNC emails oh thank you yes the DNC emails like the Democrats in the media love to bring up that hack but do you remember what was exposed in that hack I I don't nobody does nobody does odd which is by design by the way well I have a feeling you're about to spew a bunch of stuff that when I guess it's not really true no it is true I'm not gonna spew a bunch of stuff but basically it just most the big thing that it exposed was coordination between the Democrat Party specifically Hillary Clinton and the media members of the media which we already knew was going on we already knew it's funny because before that hack happened there was something called the journal list you guys ever heard of that I'm gonna give you some see this is what makes me elite all right I know all this stuff although it's old shit that nobody cares about anymore but there was this thing called the journal list and it was a forum where members of the media were all kind of secretly meeting up on and coordinating on talking points about and somebody released a bunch of posts from that and it was all like we're current we're gonna take the Republicans out we're gonna coordinator gets them we're protecting Obama you know it was all this kind of stuff and it went down after that but it's just none of those things people don't know about they've forgotten about because it went down the memory hole because the media there's those all those those videos where you can tell that like a lot of those news cable news organizations were given like talking points from the same people because they would say the same things over and over right why that's right it's nothing new but I'm just saying like the left the Democrat media definitely they're always coordinating they're always working together and it's towards an agenda like our media you cannot trust it we do not have our countries and in real trouble because we do not have a free press anymore we do not have one but we have a precious beholden to capitalism which no no no yes listen to yourself we have a presence beholden the capitalism yes listen to yourself which has forced them to pick sides we have we have relatively unbiased cable news network and PBS have you ever watched PBS news hour oh my god yes i'm very familiar with it and it's not unbiased news organization tell me the conservative who's a conservative on PBS news there's no conservative versus liberal and they just they're all liberals they're all liberals they host the host of PBS news hour the hosts are all are all fucking prolific liberals what are you talking about dude and MSNBC at least they used to i don't know they still do i haven't watched people do it in a long time but MSNBC used to have people that they would say oh these are our conservative conservative correspondencies are our conservative hosts but like this the it's still had a very liberal slant um i don't think that the number of hosts that are conservative or number of hosts that are liberal or is indicative necessarily indicative of a bias what would be indicative of a bias is the way in which they cover stories right and can you tell me a story that can you show me a mainstream media story where the democrat is a bad guy hold on listen to me okay all right i'll narrow it down for you then show me a mainstream pbs story where the democrat is a bad guy and the republican is a good guy they don't run stories it does not exist right right you're right you're correct all the stories they run are democrat good guy republican bad guy so from what i've seen a put pbs news hour and these are the clips that are on youtube i've watched a few episodes and from what i have seen they just they're just sort of fact they just tell you what happened they don't they don't have like a a spin on the story at least oh really maybe maybe there is because i don't sit here and like i said i don't watch cable news at all so i'm just gonna go down a list here predictable pbs hillary clinton's case is completely different pbs compares hormones for eight year olds the treatment for ear pain pbs sycney this is all news hour pbs sycneying gop calls trump indictment selective prosecution uh news buster's podcast pbs npr voa provide what was that last one pbs says sycneying gop calls trump indictment selective prosecution they call the gop sycney what are you looking at right now i'm just going down i follow several news news watch dogs that cover pbs okay uh k part admits democrats champ chomping at the bit to run against trump uh pbs well i can get into tons of pbs holy shit i'm not ready for this but one second um oh yeah here we are here here washington post hold on washington post columnist on pbs says musk ended an era of objectivity on twitter do you have a news organization that's like completely unbiased no no they don't exist okay well i would say i would say the intercept comes close the intercepts pretty damn good i yeah i would say they as far as i'm concerned come to what is what is what is that what is the intercept i never heard of that uh really you should uh uh any no you should be part of it um glenn greenwald i believe you should be part of it well i know of these people yeah he might still be part of it um it's very like left winger person who is open minded and understands our other it's like me like i've i i've always seen myself as like a left winger who's open to everything but i think what about we've all we've all been there right i was going greenwald's uh kenan is asking the same question at the same time as me um he's definitely you just said left winger i feel like he's maybe kind of in some logic in his thoughts right right yeah he's i don't even want to call him left winger i just feel like there's those of us that are just common sense normal folks we're not necessarily left we're not necessarily right we are just people who's and we're being forced into these camps and that's why like there that is happening like and then you have to ask the question juice doing that and then you have to look at everything from that point of view you know what i mean yeah so usually to take heed to surveys to ask you your personal beliefs about everything what were you saying steve i'm sorry i cut you off though from the continue oh it's all right i just had to with my lady some love she she put the daughter to bed all solo because she knew i was uh out here which is very nice i had to give her some love love you baby by the way i'm i love that you're here man i love that i'm talking to you not on your stream but i love hanging out with you on your stream too uh come on back sometime here you still haven't been on there live yeah well i have been uh just not recently but everybody should check out his stream he does stream what every friday night a saturday a saturday night yeah it's such a chill cool stream i love it and uh if you ever if you remember live leak dot com i think it's mostly people from that old site uh and good group of people so check it out okay so i got ilan musk wants to cut your social security because he doesn't understand math um 10 years after my cancer diagnosis the right still trying to kill me um exactly what and how republicans hate ilan and mar that one's actually not probably not that by what are you reading uh um intercept headlines that really show that it's got a bias because we can both do this um you cannot show me you cannot show me pbs headlines that go after democrats like this show me a democrat headline it calls them sickening okay what i'm saying is that you can look at headlines and and it's not just headlines i just did that for for for time sake like i'm making a living of this dude i just did that for time sake i guess no i get i i no but i get would i get the point you're trying to make but i'm telling you you cannot find pbs headline try to find some anti-democrat pbs headlines i'll do it too let's do it right now i think you might have better luck doing npr no do pbs or npr i guarantee you i i bet you i would bet you money you can't find a single negative excuse me negative headline against democrats on npr or pbs but i i've heard pretty unbiased coverage is some stuff on npr more than one million voters switch to g.o.p raising alarm for democrats i wouldn't call that negative that's just so the the only critical uh stories you will find hold on listen listen listen listen listen what i'm gonna say the only like critical slightly like critical stories you'll find against democrats on those outlets will be from the left they will be from like why aren't you being more this way why aren't you doing more against the republicans this way it'll be that kind of criticism it won't be like oh your policy is bad the policy that you say is helping trans people is actually negative like you won't find that npr and pbs will assume that any policy from the democrats or from the left is inherently good there will not be any like critical look at any of those policies or anything it will it will frame any sort of opposition to those policies as evil or bad or you know whatever of course right and then and that's largely the way it goes for most of our media but i do feel like pbs and npr a special case because they are public media so why is public media clearly going in one direction that's fucked up why should npr is obviously liberal biased i mean anyone who says otherwise is stuff in copium basically right why are we paying for that do you do you think for a second the left would pay if npr was pushing a right leaning agenda do you think they'd be for that or would they have mass protests until that was stopped i think part of the reason why it's left biased is because uh most like conservatives don't even want to fund public media anyway so they don't end up working there but still yeah we're kind of fucked i gotta be honest like uh ultimately in this conversation the right us i don't even want to call us the right because i don't think i'm right i don't think i'm right wing i've never seen myself that way i'm definitely right wing i maybe i am right wing but the fact is like we don't do anything we don't protest we don't stand up for ourselves at all it's because it's because it's because we used to be all of jobs and we have jobs we have kids like even me i used to go out and do interviews all the time i don't anymore because i got four kids now and it's like what happens if i go out and i get stabbed or shot or something you know which could happen you see a lot of these guys they have i usually got to go out by myself nobody ever wants to go out with me so the best content is going to come from someplace that's slightly sketchy if not really sketchy exactly yeah so i used to do it not anymore damn knife to the liver would be bad you don't want that so well yeah i had i had antifa people stalking me the last time i went out so i'm like eh i need people with me yeah we're our our society is kind of weird because i'm right back you know people can garner more political influence by not having a family and not having a job than actually having those things um in in any normal society uh if someone who was jobless and childless you know gave their opinion about anything like normal people would be like oh you know um your your opinion is just useless because you have no stake in society but in in ours it's like people who have families don't want to really get involved because then they could lose everything they could lose their job because of you know political struggles or whatever um so yeah so what do you think luck about everything we're just talking about um the idea that i well i think that the idea that people without families don't have a stake in politics is kind of ridiculous that's not what i said though um okay so i mean i mean okay so what you said was that people with families and jobs have a stake so they have more to lose so right so i mean if if i get so i don't currently i'm between jobs and i'm young i don't have a family so if i get cancelled like nothing really that bad is going to happen to me uh but let's say if i had a wife and kids and a steady job that i relied on for income to feed said wife and kids um if i got cancelled it would literally ruin not only my life but also the life of the people that i cared about so when you said political when you said political power i was picturing something other than like political influence i think okay um so when you say like what you're trying to say is that this so i understand that people with families may not seek after political influence as much as somebody who doesn't have a family because of a fear of being cancelled is that uh basically yes but is the de facto correct but the de facto result is that people without jobs and without families actually end up having more social political capital not political power in that they can get elected to office more more easily i don't think that's true but more clout in just the general uh political conversation because they can afford to um i i mean i don't know i'm on the like i'm on the left so i don't really think about oh if i do this i might get cancelled that's not like a fear of right right you don't have to worry about it no well i mean you you generally don't have to worry about it when you're on the right side of history well what does that tell you um well the right side of history has the right side of history ever had to be enforced um yeah yeah my military so that a little girl can go to school in a white school yes yes it has had to been enforced yeah that's an interesting example i guess i had to be with the military force actually i mean i don't i don't put much stock into the right side of history because you don't know that until it actually happens and it becomes this was that yeah i mean like it's interesting to me just on that particular subject that they're pushing for like segregation these days yeah let's talk about the right side of history you're about fucking uh you got china and russia they still have their own history it won't be taught certain things in their own history but so who's in the right side of history right if you're if you're in russia then putans on the right side of history until he dies and someone else comes same rewritten by the victor rewritten same with shish and ping so it's the same thing it's like okay well i mean who's on the right side of history here it just depends on who's in power right good point well i mean i think that there is there's certain worlds in which at least everyone in this room can subscribe to right what do you mean the arrogance yeah like like the idea that you shouldn't discriminate well actually steve's in here let's make the idea that you shouldn't discriminate against people based on the color of their skin that's i'm not racist what the hell okay i don't think anybody here agrees that who what kind of a troglodyte do you have to be that people should be discriminated against based on the skin color does anybody is there anybody on this planet that still believes that like well i take that i take that back in the civilized world very few people well also yes but but anyway like i feel like that's not even a thing which even like there's well you're talking about like how do we know who's on the right side of history well generally speaking we as a society have come to the conclusion that we shouldn't discriminate against people based on the color of skin therefore when we look at back back at history and we see people doing just that we would generally say they are on the wrong side of history not because the the democrats or at the time republicans won that war because we as a society came together and decided that was a bad thing to do therefore people who were doing that in the past we're doing a bad thing and we're on the wrong side of history all right so let's i want to move on to something else here real quick do you got did anybody see the uh man dressed as a woman who uh has the white breasts yeah and he he is flashing he was basically indecent indecent exposure ring at the white house yeah he got banned he got banned by the white house right which is insane like what what all right well even even even the biden white house banned this guy so have you guys seen on cnn where they're defending him the guy that flashed is faked it's oh they're actually trying to defend that guy oh yeah do you want to see that sure what's the what's the argument there can't wait for that i'm gonna play it right now all right so i'm gonna go out on the limb that you're expecting me to go out on and say yes but uh so this clearly wasn't appropriate the white house is correct however uh we need to understand what this act was for trans people trans women and trans men to be proud and comfortable in their bodies is an act of joy it's an act of pride and an act of celebration all right so before this guy say says anything else he just said that so he's had he's doing doublespeak he said on one hand yeah it was fine for the white house to say did this to you know say this is horrible but trans men and women have a right to feel free in their bodies and feel comfortable to do so basically he said both things he said one yeah the white house was fine but also trans activists are okay to do this that's weird i know like what the hold on let me just play the rest of it real quick i'm not defending this particular this particular action there's a time for everything the south line of the white house i just it's hilarious because he starts off well i just want to start this over i'll just watch he starts off saying it's wrong they defend it they says it's wrong again they defend it again this is like are we supposed to be able to see this on discord you can see on the stream actually i'll give you the link let me give you the link hold on yeah because i want you guys to see this too it's just like absurd these fucking people man uh shit kind of complicated to watch it on youtube real quick before we do this i just want to bring up a point so this this okay so you keep calling them a man i'm going to call them a woman because that's what they prefer to be called um this one but why do you want to say that to me so are you in a cult are you in a cult all right let's just you all right we can just switch to this then let's just switch to this no no no no no no actually i want to bring up this point so this this woman flashes their tits from the white house it was a pretty big deal you keep calling them a man however if they were actually a man then them have being shirtless would just be another day in america right we don't care when men are fake tits he has fake tits but we don't care when men flash their tits no men don't have tits it's not considered obscene in america liberal clock you're in the cult buddy you're in the cult my little guy i don't i don't want to see man tits either that's gonna grow they're not real they're fake it's silicone a man got silicone tits attached to his chest what the fuck are you talking about not just clear something up let's let's put it this way it's if a guy it's my understanding it's my understanding and i'm i could be wrong it's my understanding that when they say that they're a woman the thorough women in my understanding that this particular situation and this this could be wrong because like i said i didn't look into the story but i heard that i think that wasn't there trans men that were also doing the same thing as right there were there were yeah there were nobody no there were women who cut off their tits also showing but they had no tits anymore so who cares it was all fucked up it was all like it was all like taking a bad acid trip is the point anyway you slice it it was like it was like i went to a picnic and everybody started puking on each other that's what it's like oh my god oh no this is like the blueberry pie scene from standby me boom boom boom boom boom right yeah number hey uh real quick uh collect did you come before i started talking about the uh ccp survivor and all that the gay pride flag and all that did you come before or after that um i i yeah i had to be after okay yeah i think it was after i think i don't want to like jump we're jumping back and forth i don't want to jump back let's stay on the trans thing we'll jump into that i think they're connected the trans thing is like we can transition the the content yeah i feel like so i i just feel like the whole trans thing is all about getting people to up to abolish objective reality so that the powers that be whoever they may be can then mold those people to whatever they want i think that's what's going on i don't think trans people themselves and even when i say trans people i hate saying that because trans people are just human beings with mental illness like they're not a different kind of person they're just people with a mental illness they do have right i hate saying trans people i don't mean in that many harm already hate that doesn't make them bad people right i don't i'm not saying that makes them bad people or there's anything there is something wrong with them but like i don't think that they deserve any kind of like negative you know what i mean like i think they should be protected i'm okay with those people i even and when they're adults i'm okay with them living out their fantasy if they want so whatever let me let me ask a devil's advocate question here right yeah okay so what would be like a like a definition of mental illness in that point right what would be well thinking something you're not and i hate that they're like the media is like oh you're just a person that's in the body the wrong body they say that like nonchalantly like that's just normal like no no i'm sorry like that's like a religion at that point it's completely unintelligible so you because you are your body which what what part of you is in the wrong body right you are no you are in the body that you are in right it's like right that's why i say it's a religion it's like because they believe that there's like a ghost or a spirit and it's in the wrong body so it's like that's like you know we're getting into the metaphysical here and that's like a religion yeah can i can i jump into a a related subject that is a little more controversial but it's also on the same fuck yeah dude do it even even more controversial all right so let's do it right so you riddle just brought up the whole um mental illness aspect of it uh yeah now with i hate to bring it up but this trans kids thing like uh of this they're starting to call gender affirming surgery and things like that i've heard people say like these kids would be suicidal which is absolutely tragic and horrendous if they didn't get this sort of surgery as bullshit previously we have all thought that some a child who was suicidal would need like serious psychological help and not be giving uh possibly like a life-changing surgery i mean right right to me that seems like the opposite of what you should do right yeah if they're suicidal hang on hang on why don't we have uh i think uh cluck has some responses to that judging by your language yeah so i mean i guess we can start with the whole it's a mental illness thing there is a mental illness called um gender dysphoria there is a uh it's a diagnosable mental illness with certain criteria one of those criterias is that whatever's going on with you has to have a significant negative impact on your life it is possible to be trans and not actually have gender dysphoria because you have successfully transitioned and you are happy with your body um so it's not well there's no transitioning that's all like make believe right it's not a real thing you're not transitioning into anything you have a costume on that doesn't mean you're transitioning the interesting thing is when you say that cluck when you say that don't you realize you're saying like religious language one of the interesting things is that one of the things that um transgender people once in life is to be treated like the gender in which they identify with and you guys graciously um did that when you gave the trans woman a lot of shit for showing their titties in public and didn't give the trans men any shit for showing their titties in public and that's exactly how they didn't show titties they cut them off they cut off their titties i mean men still have titties what's a mastectomy liberal cluck what's a mastectomy of a mastectomy a mastectomy a mastectomy yeah like a mastectomy a mastectomy memories memories thanks for the memories do you not think that men can have like titties well if i google men man titties right now will i get like nothing or well i don't know man now you're yeah but you're just being you're just being dense fan come on you think we can't all you can't you think we can't all see through what you're doing that right nobody do you think anybody's whacking off to men titties some people i'm sure there are people there who i can hope nobody wants to yeah let's not think of the nothing but trouble giant babies that are whacking off the man titties this is the thing though like so like the trans man could have like double d's but then the trans woman might have been shaved clean down to like a man's chest so what are you looking at see i just feel like i'm getting sucked into the alternate reality delusion schizophrenic delusion bullshit so it's okay for like a cis woman with no boobs is it okay for them to walk around shortly the fact that you're even saying cis women that's like cult that's like cult lingo cluck that is cult lingo they're just women they're just women when you say cis women that's cult lingo can i also uh can i add you're in a cult go for it go for it when it comes to the cis to generate wasn't it created by john money who is a known pedophile who created experiments on children yep so uh is that dependable who wanted to who wanted to actually categorize people as cis gender that he created that terminology okay so i can see cis cis hold on liberal cluck cis segment sounds like a bug or a reptile or something like the testable really really fucking weird ideas also but we still coin him the father of psychology and we don't this this own his um his good ideas because of the fucked up ones that he had i you don't think he might have looked you don't think he all afford yes correct okay cluck do you don't think he might have looked negatively at people who weren't like him and and giving them a label of siths siths you're not making an argument right now it's like such a horrible like label it's like totally meant to be negative it's that is a terrible thing that he did it sounds like he created he created he created that terminology called cis gender he created that terminology by being a known pedophile and experimenting on children that's a known thing how can that not be i don't i don't think he created the terminology of cis gender but he did come up with a concept of gender but he did yeah okay did that's the actual guy so like you don't know well if you don't know now you know what weren't there are there does everybody know about john money's experiments does apparently not apparently nobody knows about i i've heard these arguments before but they're just so irrelevant because like no money they are they're irrelevant the fact that everything we're talking about now is based on the theories made up by an insane person discovered wrong irrelevant it's it's completely relevant what are you talking about no he could be literally satan he could be hitler he could be hitler and satan he could be hitler and it doesn't make the things that he discovered wrong one clock shut up for just one second he could be hitler he could be hitler and ever our institutions could be literally based on everything he came up with right now and that would be meaningless what if they're based in a a a fact yeah what they're based in reality did the hitler say anything did hitler say anything based in fact liberal clock okay if you discover something real i'm sure you know did hitler discover anything real based in fact yeah probably can you name it didn't they do all kinds of horrible experience i don't know are you trying to make an argument for your side right now okay hold on hold on hold on give give them two minutes straight i'm sorry let's go for it let's uh let's hold on i'm at time i am really understanding and i don't know because i don't look into this shit but it's my understanding that during world war two there were a lot of medical experience experiments done a lot of awful medical experiments with we got useful information from oh is that that is that that's true that's true that's true okay so those were awful people doing like we did it's true but we don't take their results and say oh these are bullshit results because these are awful people that's exactly what you're trying to do with this john money uh line of logic it's funny to me though that you're comparing john money to nazis that's great john money's an awful person i will compare him to a nazi and i have a problem with it there's there's there's a difference here because those those experiments that were done by like the nazi scientists those were hard science you can't argue with chemistry and physics and biology but john money was a sociologist he invented terms like gender you can't objectively do studies on that it's it's it's it's a conception that he came up with right it's it's not the same thing i mean yeah you can you can argue that gender studies isn't as hard of science as like chemistry and biology that's absolutely true but what i oh the only thing i'm arguing with this line of logic is that saying john money was an awful person he came up with this therefore this is wrong it's just a well the the reason that it's relevant that it's not a hard science is because you you can like you can't argue away um a fact about nature uh a certain uh principle of chemistry like you you you can't say oh well this nazi scientist uh came up with this or discovered this fact about physics uh so i'm just going to ignore that fact uh you you can't argue it away it's it's real it's hard but you can argue with the idea of gender as a sociological construct yeah of course you can argue against that but not based off of the person who came up with it just being a bad person but that's a bad reason so if it's if it's a subjective thing like the idea of gender then the mind that invented it necessarily has a part to play in what the concept is like you know einstein doesn't really have you know you you don't have to understand einstein to understand general relativity but you kind of do have to understand the people who come up with sociological um and other sort of soft science concepts to understand what it is that's that's not true because there's a lot of people who don't know who john money is but has a a a pretty decent grasp of you know gender theory okay no yeah but gender theory was came okay it was cooked up like how like how's it any different from a cold it's the same it's the same thing as it was cooked up by a guy who's who's a f***ing lunatic can i can i can i actually compare that to something else okay nobody knows a gender theory is comparable to what what john money made right but however uh was a critical race theory is now comparable comparable i should say to uh marxism the same shit right exactly you're right this is a different way well it's all marxism all those theories ultimately isn't it weird how these theories have all been thrust on us all at the same time yeah around the same time just just to clarify what do you think about that clock do you think that was coordinated or just ran clarify with steve preson who actually did make a good point was um and and that yes you can't argue that sociology is a soft science therefore i'm going to question these things that is a good argument to have um but i just don't think that it's relevant who came up with it argue the the things that were came up that he came up with not the person itself yeah but your your argument kind of relies on the comparison to the nazi scientists and i think i've demonstrated that it's not an apt comparison oh yeah and can i just remind you of one of the most famous experiments that they had and this is one of the ones that's one of the greatest ethical questions with medical science is that they literally dunked people and held them in frozen water ice cube water for specific amount of times to see how their bodies would react and then let them die and try to revive them and and we use that that's a lot of the basis of saving people um went under who've gone under the ice that sort of thing like the nazi experiments were you know important in saving right well that's that's that's sort of exactly my point if they discover something about the human body like uh well humans can survive at this temperature but not this temperature that's in that's an inextricable fact of nature no matter who discovers it and you can't just ignore it because someone you don't like discovered it but if there's a sociological concept or some some kind of analysis of human behavior or society that's subject to interpretation the person who came up with it has more of a relevance to the concept itself than than if you know there was a scientist that just discovered something about the natural world so what is it about john money that and gender there like like john money is awful this what what i mean for example he was a guy who believed certain things about gender and about how human society should contend with the idea of gender and sex and he crafted his you know his sort of concepts to serve his uh sort of goals for society like what concepts um i it's been a while since i looked into this but i think the point the test subject that's always referred to was david reamer i think and uh at the time money was this doctor who performed a sex change operation on reamer when he was an infant and raised the twin yeah i think so he raised him as a girl and he ended up killing himself later yeah um but um his idea was that sex doesn't really matter and it's all social construct and if you raise if you cut off uh the infant boy's dick and just raise him as a girl then he'll act like a girl in all sense of the word and he'll be completely fine with that um that ended up not being true but the concepts of of gender that he created and and perpetuated rely on this prescription about human society that that sex doesn't matter so is it possible and and you know people on on the left today widely believe that i think that biological sex matters less than the social constructive gender which is exactly what money was trying to further with his so-called research boom thank you yeah so is it is it possible that um that in trans people it's there is an actual physical difference with their the way their brain i'm sure it's possible but i think it's highly doubtful that that physical difference makes their brains and their psychology exactly identical to the uh target sex that they want to be right i don't think i don't think the brain of a trans woman is exactly identical to the brain of a cis woman there's nothing like that out there by the way there is it never will be here cis women and get the exact um brains either no i i i mean i i think if you at like let's say if you could average the brains of all cis women in honor what are you like you're trying to make a woman brain would be anywhere near that what is the i hate to jump in because the dude talking is way smarter than me but i'm cluck like what's the thing you're trying to make that well yeah i have heard steve you're always you're always well articulated for sure much appreciate that yes um uh steve i bear back i'm sorry guys i gotta use the restroom go ahead clark sorry so i think that john i think that john monies i think that john monies claim uh the experiment does prove that it's probably pretty impossible to um to take somebody who is of one gender and um socialize them into being another i think what it means to be one or the other gender has a lot of social um social reasonings behind it um some of those a lot of those social reasonings can have a uh also biological backing so for example a man is supposed to be a protector probably because they tend to be bigger um so if a transgender person feels this intense discomfort with um with their their gender i think that it's probably highly likely and i've actually heard that this is the case although i've never actually looked into it so i'm not going to make a strong claim here but i have heard that it is it is the case that their brains are actually wired you know why wired differently um in a way that could make it impossible for us to socialize a trans person to be the gender in which they were born and it's probably better to just um allow them to fit into the social mode mold of the gender that they identify with uh and hopefully that takes away some or a lot of the dysphoria right well that's that's fine i i mean i also kind of doubt that it's i mean it's probably not that possible to socialize a someone with gender dysphoria through psychotherapy or other means into you know dropping um or or you know not being dysphoric over their gender anymore but um that's also true for like a lot of other mental and psychological illnesses like you're you're pretty much never going to socialize a schizophrenic person yeah exactly into um not having or holding irrational beliefs or or becoming psychotic from time to time um but that doesn't mean that society at large has to sincerely believe that what the skin of the that what the schizophrenic person believes is real like if if someone believes that the moon is following them or that their shower curtains are running them out to the cia we don't have to believe that that's true in in order to accept them as real human beings or or whatever just like i don't think we have to believe uh that trans women really are actually women i don't really think anybody really believes that i really think most people are just pretending to believe that in order to go along with the so it's really weird that we're like kind of made and forced course to go i'm i'm that should be your first signal something's not right i'm you know i'm perfectly fine with allowing uh transgender people to transition with hormones and surgery i just do not want society at large to sincerely start to propagate the idea that trans women really are the same thing as women or that they are women right like i i just think that's very delusional concept right and it's very like straight out of 1980 1984 the book like it's right out of that and that's what leads me to believe that there are powers that are using people with gender dysphoria and you want to call trans people they're using those people as a means of like mass kind of indoctrination but yeah riddles you have something oh i i did want to ask but it's it's it was the time as pat actually you know what uh yeah preston uh are you a psychologist or what are you uh no i'm just uh i'm i'm just guy you just you just read books oh see now that's even yeah that's even more so i'm glad you're around buddy just i'm just i'm just kidding i'm kidding i'm glad you're around have you been around a while preston no i don't i don't even have a channel i just um i just don't i'm just i'm just on flex you've been around have i i don't think so other streams i've seen you be here before um maybe i don't recall i've seen you you don't you don't remember but i do yeah i do think i remember you from yeah i do think i remember you from there before i know yeah i do think i remember you from that but either way like i'm glad you're here and uh thanks yeah you're definitely a nice voice the inputs the input's good and uh yeah very well and cluck as well by the way i really like when cluck shows up he's yeah i do it's hard to get people from the opposite end to show up and he always does so i respect you for that click honestly for just three minutes okay so um to respond to that um i think that there is a interesting conversation to be had when it comes to in which aspects of society do we accept trans people as women and which aspects of society do we not we don't at all or men well why do you always why does everybody always do that they kind of ignore the women going to men they can just straight they focus on the men going to women have you noticed that yeah because it's a definitely noticeable it's a noticeable trait that's for sure what is that what's up with that they are because it's the most contentious group it's a group that's always held up as like the the boogie man of the most what group what the most what group contentious it's a group that the the people who are against trans people have the most problems with well why is that why would you say that i don't know that that's the truth i don't know that that's the truth but i'm just wondering why you think that would be then i think that okay so let's look at let's look at the examples of trans people that are held up as like problematic are they ever trans men yes when you mean held up like what do you mean held up but like in like the one that you guys were coming to the full chat what do you mean held up once that you guys were coming to this group chat but hey you hear the trash did this are they ever f2m trans men say i missed that i was doing something i i honestly missed it too because yeah say it again say it again i'm sorry so and when y'all come into this chat i was i was reading chat hold on hold on hold on this guy only joined a troll this you gotta go all right so when you guys come in no no no before you speak i'm sorry uh only joined a troll keeps interrupting can you is this a done is this a thing done i'm i'm gonna do i said one thing i got room all right all right go ahead okay so when y'all come into this voice chat and somebody brings up an example oh did you hear what this trans person did this is so awful is it ever a trans man like a female that that wants to be a man or is it always or most likely or very very most likely a man that wants to be a woman it's most likely a man that wants to be a woman so that's why these things are always talked about what uh that's why the trans men or trans women are the ones that are always talked about because they're the ones that you guys have the problems with no you know why that's not right look i'll tell you i'll tell you why right now it's because it's the men it's because i gotta be honest it's mostly white men there are some black men too but it's mostly white men like exerting they're like fuck it seems like they're like i'm hated and i have no chance unless i do this and then i gain ultimate power and i do whatever the fuck i want and it works right they can do whatever they want they can say whatever they want they can cancel whoever they want y'all's reasoning behind why y'all focus only on this demographic is still doesn't take away from the fact that that is the demographic y'all because i noticed what's happening i'm always talking about them i'm just noticing what's happening that's all i'm doing yeah it's it's a basic observation honestly okay just anecdotally um all the trans men that i've known were always like super chill and just kind of like kept themselves and stuff but all the trans women have ever known her fucking annoying can i tell you guys a secret i actually do agree with that that's actually very true i got i'll i'll unveil something here to you guys i actually have no i'm not far off but uh yeah so the guy that mentored me growing up the guy that mentored me growing up got me into computers got me into everything that the reason i'm doing what i'm doing to this day is trans he's a trans woman now and yeah and he he was uh like this big heroic firefighter we have uh my family we are all like firefighters and cops and military and uh he was a big firefighter here in clumbus ohio and uh he became trans he just sighed one day that he just wanted to become a woman and uh he's he's been uh very successful but uh we don't get along anymore well literally like i asked him a couple questions and he he he deaded me forever like i don't exist because you because you don't have a question no no and check this out check this out so he is there's been news articles written about him here because he's like a big activist here in ohio and uh yeah they characterized him as a civil rights activist and i'll tell you right now i like i told you i've been a left winger growing up i was always like a left winger right and uh growing up as a kid in my left wing views i would i was always in i was good friends with my uncle and he was in computers and i was into that but like when it came to like my music choices and stuff like that he always had a lot of stuff to say like i was into rap and he was always like you know inward this inward that and i'm like oh but now you're a civil rights leader that's interesting i'm like you used to like you used to like give me so much crap about the music i listen to in the movie movies i watched but now you're a civil rights activist sure but yeah i always thought that was interesting wow wonderful story well he's my point was that he used to shame me for being in the black culture and now i'm like now he used to he used to be like you're like inwards you like inward music they're idiots and now now he's trans and now he's a civil rights leader it's like so what the oh what happened why is trans now okay why why what happened there what happened there i don't have no idea the guys fucked up apparently but he's the guy that got me in the computers and all that stuff around the kid i mean well here's the thing is does he take medication i don't know he just one day he's on description medication i know nothing about it all i know is one day he decided he wanted to be a woman he divorced his wife f his kids i guess you know whatever he's married to a guy right now i think actually oh my god i mean that's uh that's despicable he's a he's an activist he's a firefighter he's a high-ranking firefighter here in in ohio club is oh yeah and he's a big activist but i'm telling you when i was a kid and i hung out with him he used to berate me for as to be as being an inward lover and and stuff like that because because i was in the rap i was in the like that's just when i was a kid i was like that i was what you might call a wigger right i would that's that was what i was then whatever really the gangster rap and stuff yeah okay so it's so you're trying to have cultural appreciation but now it's called the right appropriation right this guy that used to berate me for being in the black people because he said that they were idiots and he used to i remember he used to make fun of me and he was like the music they listened to was like kid music he's like buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh he would do that kind of thing you know it tends to be these leftist activists is crazy people even trans included nowadays anyways not all of them but they always tend to be the most hypocritical and the most hateful yeah for whatever reason they are going on in their lives and they project like crazy they have no stuff awareness and they project it is it's just insane it's kind of sad they're crazy this is what dude this is what literally has like motivated me from when i was first gotten to politics i identified this early on i'm like these people are dangerous i'm gonna dedicate my life to pointing out what these people are doing hopefully people will see it and we can deal with it that's been like my whole thing from the beginning it's like we can identify the issue we can zero in on it we can all get together but it's you know it's harder and we thought it would be because so as i was saying before there is a to steve preston there's an interesting conversation to be had about which aspects of society we should accept trans women as women i think that there it needs to be a um a cost-benefit analysis to any of those types well here's here's a good question in in what in what um parts or or you know realms of society do you think we should not accept trans women as women probably anything that their physical stature would give them an advantage of so like easy question um what okay so you're you're you're against trans women in sports yeah for the most part i don't know about like elementary school sports middle school sports and maybe even high school sports you probably could it shouldn't be allowed across because those sports are are from what i understand um generally they are more of a social um exercise and less of a thing that's going to be well i could i could see the argument for that in like middle school sports but with high school sports you're really looking at like you know high school kids who are athletic are trying to get into college and the the college sounds like that's probably i also disagree with the middle honestly the middle school i disagree with that honestly i disagree with it as a whole well i mean i would expect you to um yeah but yeah so but there's a reason you expect that but there's a reason behind it what's what's the reason because the the growth hormone levels are different elementary school it's just and yes included girls are usually bigger than guys in elementary school they're usually i don't i don't know if it really matters who doesn't mean they're stronger it's it's about hormones and estrogen and bone density and not yeah yeah a lot of mass analogies but it's pretty basic elementary school kids aren't going around beating each other up in sports like can i ask you this question real quick um let me get back into the channel here uh colluck what do you think about kjp you know caron jampier the white house press secretary uh she was asked by a reporter i think from new york post i'm not sure about um parents that were concerned about their daughters uh competing in competitive contact sports with biological boys and she said that asking that question was dangerous and a threat to children who were trans what do you think about that this is a threat to our democracy well what contact sports are women playing and that's like just a woman's sport like they have a separate woman's section no these are uh we're talking about um all of them there's all separate basketball football baseball i know of hockey is football and usually those are just men's and women's will go onto men's um well no also no there aren't there's wrestling there's basketball there's which is usually a men's thing that women will go on to if they want to wrestle right but that's not a contact sport do i know baseball is a contact sport have you ever played baseball on a contact sport have you ever played baseball motherfucker i have contact no did you play second base third base first base catcher so okay so here we go okay so the heart of the question the heart of the question you don't think a big boy uh can plow over a first base girl or second base girl third base girl catch a girl yeah easily easily still bases he runs faster fucking throws harder just women who are bigger than like they're their classmates after women chest chest debate okay yeah these are gonna be like one in a million women that are that big so trans how many trans kids do you think it's playing sports more and more it's increasing all the time it's true it is increasing no it's increasing it's exploding but if you're going to use the one in a million there's less no uh dude you got to address you got to address the increasing amount that's happening why is it always let me ask you this as well it's only boys playing girls sports not girls playing boys sports can you explain that girls playing boys sports girls there's no girls there's no girls there's no girls pretending to be boys playing boys sports it's only the other way usually when a woman wants to play a boys sport they could just be on the boys team no i agree basketball can be a contact sport so it's like okay so here's this what's the definition of contact sport in your eyes look so look at the biggest women's basketball player there is it's a guy what the one that was in russia who just got rescued britain right uh what's her face grenner yeah that's a guy yeah yeah pretty much it is a guy actually is actually yeah yeah it's a guy it's a man it's she's a man so a a contact sport you ever heard you ever heard her speak is that is that confirmed i don't know yeah she's a man dude she has no listen listen there's picture have you seen a picture of her whether with speak there's yeah there's a picture of her with her shirt off are y'all calling this clearly a man who who hasn't been proven to be trans a trans person no they are there's pictures of grenner with no shirt on it's a man as if it wasn't obvious anyway but yeah what you could tell about the shirt just a shirt being on we should we should probably ask the russian oh shit oh yeah it's a dude you didn't know that this is a long known this is a long known you didn't know that diamonds in minecraft because i died dude it's a guy's yeah she's she's not a she's a man wait you just lost your diamonds yeah that sucks i'm sorry dude maybe play starcraft either they're gonna play starcraft or uh fortnight they're coming they're coming out sorry we're playing minecraft i'm always looking for teammates i'm playing right um what was i saying oh yeah so yeah women with girls girls who want to play guy sports they usually just go onto the guy's team it's usually not a problem the reason why we always talk about the other way around is because that's where y'all have the contention contention for um and as for what is my definition of a contact sport my definition of a contact sport is is a sport in which hard contact is expected inside the sport yes in basketball you could run over somebody that is a thing that can happen usually it doesn't it's not supposed to happen so it doesn't isn't considered a contact sport same with baseball it's just not like a thing that's built into the game the same way it is with like football or so then you prove so then you prove yourself incorrect you prove yourself incorrect what do you what do you mean because you just said prior that it wasn't a contact sport it it because running somebody over isn't built into baseball like it's not a thing that's supposed to happen okay so that's a lot like saying that uh a woman that can't have pregnancy is not a woman because that's supposed to be supposed she has okay is that too much of a leap for you yeah the analogy just you're gonna have to explain the analogy i'm sorry okay well you said that it was a contact sport right but you didn't know that it was a contact sport wait no i didn't say that baseball was a contact sport or basketball yeah you said that it was not a contact sport right give me some wood yeah well actually i don't have any wood i can give you an axe you guys are playing together yeah i'm playing on a server what's that my server but oh god you guys playing minecraft apparently playing minecraft my daughter plays that that's a great game let's play fortnite that's a way more i've been i've been playing since i was in middle school i have a fucking steep breast and playing minecraft okay that's but still do you guys see do you guys see where i stopped this video and bind bind uh meeting this girl is grabbing that i grabbed that so so so besides uh sports are there any other sections of society where you don't think trans women should be treated as women um oh prisons trans women are not that's just men i hate saying that i feel like i'm an oral nightmare i'm saying trans women there's no trans um free free i'm gonna mention the question should not be in women's prisons okay because they're men let's stop playing this arping shit i'm okay like i feel like we're all getting sucked into like uh insane delusion like we need to fight it no we will not go into the night it's it's simple it's it's a speech from independence right i'm okay with uh post off we will not go quietly into the night yeah i gotta i gotta look at that i'm okay with post off trans women go into women prisons post off uh what is it that's uh that's and i uh well the okay so a post off trans woman is going to have an extremely high risk of being raped in the male uh in a man's prison uh because they have a vagina like like you guys may not think of it as a vagina but people who have been in prison for 20 years he could he but he'll still beat her ass he'll still interrupt you'll have to come to terms with the idea of a vagina that the people in prison have so there are there are many many okay listen there are many many women in the prison that are incredibly big and can beat up any other woman in that prison um so i don't think we should send them to men's prisons just because they can beat up a woman maybe we should send them in person according to your your rule of law well the reason why i'm i i i the reason why i'm not to men's prisons girl drink the reason why i am okay with post off trans women go into women's prisons but not pre-op is because of the existence of a penis um if somebody has a penis and they go to dump a penis if they go into a woman's prison then they have an extra instrument in which they can use to violate a woman sexually um and it could be even extra traumatizing in a way because of the nature of using a penis to rape a woman i don't i don't think that the uh presence of a penis as you say uh the penis race for women not the person why women get raped by men i i think it has more to do with the no no so i'm not i'm not saying that the penis is the reason why women get raped by men i'm saying it's the penis it became self aware yeah my gosh the the presence of a penis gives like we have to get rid of penises we have to ban them that's the problem and assault wait yes are they what what what what magazines how many magazines can you put in that penis don't go i'm having so much fun where are you going i'd be uh i'm i'm sorry go ahead well i mean if am i really i'm sorry if you have something legitimate like serious to say rattle you can go ahead go ahead i'm sorry i'll shut the fuck up no i'm not trying to control your i'm not trying to troll you or anything i'm really not i'm just trying to i just i i highly disagree with you but i also think that uh just because they had their post-op doesn't mean that they should be allowed in women's prisons because of an obvious like uh like what your friend said it's depressing that there's an obvious physical difference because in prison you're kind of clicky right so you fight people and i guess what's going to happen this guy's going to beat everybody up because he has a physical natural uh or he'll just the pussies of all the women and dominate them that way yeah i mean so i don't think that i don't i mean i mean look i don't know about that but uh you know what i'm saying it's like you can dominate them one way or the other like a trans a trans partner exactly your trans women's going to generally have a bigger physique than your average woman in prison but if you're going to separate people why is that because of they went through a male heberty um most likely um so but if you're going to separate because they're male okay so if you're going to separate people based around that there's a lot of cis women that would need to go to male's prisons and they are going to be extra susceptible to rape even though they are bigger than most women what's happening wow what are we talking about i'm sorry i i feel like that was so silly that i have to hear that again we're just like we're all gonna live in an insane mental delusion i don't know what what are we going towards what's happening don't check please stop if you're reasoning behind wanting not wanting to have um trans post op trans women and women's prisons is because they are generally bigger than um your average woman and they can just beat everyone up i'm here to tell you that there are a lot of women that are bigger than me who is a 200 almost 200 pound uh five low 11 uh man no okay but like i can beat up most of the women there um but that though there's a lot of women there okay so me up easily because they're just so big so you said you could beat up most of the women even though you're smaller than all of them pretty much no i'm not small all of them i'm bigger there's some women you're bigger than them i think you said they're bigger than most of the women there but there are some women and it's it's not an insignificant amount of women there are a lot bigger than beat you up they could probably kick ass because they're huge so should we take those huge prisoners and put them in a male's facility because they can kick the ass of every woman there according to your lodge no according to your logic that this is your logic have them identify as men and then yes oh my logic says that women and men should be separated that's my logic yeah but it's pretty simple why you don't know the reason why you don't want the the trans women to be in women's prisons even after um surgery um is because they are bigger and can beat them up well that's not a woman when you have even if it's post-op or not so it's okay to have somebody bigger than the other women that can beat other women up as long as they are also born a woman i'm sorry say it again so it's okay if we have women who are bigger than most of the women and can just kick the ass of most of the women there as long as they were born a woman uh well yeah that's the natural course okay um so your concern isn't of the well-being of the prisoners that's that's prison that's that's okay that's prison so what else so now you're changing changing the entire argument that's the entire argument no my argument was you don't have males that have a natural advantage going over to a female's environments it just it just come completely dominating because they're a natural born male how hard so my concern is my concern is the well-being of the prisoners and generally speaking oh okay so so now it's changing though they're changing though changing the argument how by by by by making about the prisoners not about male and female and transgender as opposed to this this or that i would i would assume that most arguments that we have around these types of things we're thinking about the well-being of people in society in this case we're talking about prisoner prison and prisoners so we would be talking about the well-being of prisoners i like i just thought that was a given no it's not a given we were talking about something specifically oh well i apologize i don't have like a specific tie to the concepts of male and female to where i am going to abide by those um categories at all cost even at the detriment of people in society right so your topic fluid got it understandable okay oh anyways steve as i was saying i am okay with um post up transmit uh women going to women's facilities because they don't have a penis um i don't think the existence of a penis makes somebody more likely to rape someone i just think that the existence of a penis can make rape different than if they don't have a penis in a in a negative way like the experience of rape when somebody's on top of you and shoving a part of them inside of you is different than the experience of rape uh when like it's like a female on female rate are you speaking from personal experience i'm speaking because i work in a prison i'm just i'm joking like i work in a prison i do a female prison i work in a female prison right um yeah okay i can i can see where you come from there so i mean also wait can i can i just add one more thing and i think that the the danger presented to a trans woman is incredibly high and most male facilities um therefore it's probably worth shipping that person to a woman's facility to keep them safe most likely they aren't going to like like that's a popular belief most prisoners aren't just out to hurt other people um so most likely they aren't going to be out to just hurt and dominate these women and most likely they're not going to rape these women they're just going to be happy that they're in a safer environment um wait so you think are you admitting that's why they're doing it should be treated as women in prison if they're post-op yeah oh what does that mean post-op it means they don't have a penis they have a vagina now there's not a real they do not have a vagina okay why would you say that are you living in a fantasy land okay they don't yeah that it can mend magically have hold on no the clock can men have a vagina what surgery yes no is it let me ask is it the same thing i mean is it is it real why do we have to ask this why do i have to why do i have to why do i have to interact with a person who's living in a fantasy world the clock that's not a vagina okay okay would you fuck it um would you probably not why not probably not yeah you probably won't um yeah that's gross obviously not of course you wouldn't because it's it's a it's grotesque because that's what he says why not well no actually if you think it's just a right you know if you think it's the same thing as a normal vagina why wouldn't you the idea that it is pieces of a penis still turns me off because it's not real but it's because the whole thing is a is it demonic look i'm not christian i'm not religious but the whole thing is fucking like straight up demonic like uh um what's a fucking movie with the you have to be religious no it's wrong it's like centabytes right it's like it's weird with wait i thought you guys were okay with adults transitioning adults can do whatever the fuck they want but you're over here like like yeah my right my hey we're no we're talking about it hold on hold on hold on low on the clock i'm a straight heterosexual man i like i like pussy and i will say the same thing about men's sex it's fucking off it's disgusting to me it i don't want it the the very visualization of it is fucking horrifying i want nothing to do with it what do you think about that is that is that wrong what do you don't like visualizing man sex right no but you're okay then okay then you're not over here calling it demonic it's demonic and gross and i fucking hate it all the same thing yeah like is it well when you push isn't that isn't that what makes people gay or straight whether or not they have sex with the same sex yes right they like one thing and they don't like the other yeah so what's wrong with me not liking that not liking gay sex right it's fucking horrifying in demonic to me wait wait you can not like something and then not call it but still not think oh okay okay well do you feel the same way about throwing around like the term like white supremacist and racist do you feel the same way about that oh yes actually earlier in the conversation i think he may be able to uh test to this i was talking about right well i won't call i won't call gay sex demonic it's not demonic honestly i don't think it is but i find it gross as fuck yeah and i don't want to even think about it so yeah i wouldn't have sex with a trans person because i don't like the idea that i'd be having sex with surgically alter even like threesomes threesomes are like like if it's like two girls is good but like two dudes i'm like what was that steve why don't you like that idea i'm just i'm just trying to get my penis in there i don't know it's it's it's like it's like asking me why don't i like like you know any other thing that i'm not sexually attracted to right okay i think we need to focus more on like what heteros like i'm fucking sick of focusing on gay shit like let's let's focus on like heteros one for like i'm 44 years old and i feel like for most of my life it's been like nothing but like gay shit thrown in our faces well i mean to be honest outside of like conversation it's like asking me why don't i like i don't ever like talking about gay shit quote unquote is not a thing that happens day to day i feel like it's not a stop it's like how can you make sure you're a conservative i would expect that no well okay really conservative you really think i'm a conservative i smoke weed on camera talk about fucking and like all this stuff you think i'm a conservative yes i smoke weed but i don't have a camera oh yeah conservatives are known for smoking weed on camera i also was a conservative he grew weed like i don't think smoking weed makes you not conservative i think that it's pretty i'm not conservative i'm not conservative so okay stop calling me that i don't have anything gets conservatives but i'm never consider myself that wait so am i not progressive because i wouldn't have sex with a trans person no you're just communist so um did you guys like you probably already know any other thing right say what says again i think we need to focus more on like what heteros like i'm fucking we did we did actually focus on gage yeah okay yeah let's like let's let's focus on like what's here what's here like like i'm 44 years old and i feel like for most fake news all right about that there we go fake news all right i think i'm gonna go ahead and wrap up the stream uh as far as the stream goes we can keep chatting here in chat but do you think that the videotape of him saying yeah i should have had these classified but i didn't um well no no well well here's the thing here's the thing there are a lot hold on hold on do you think that okay so here's my thing on that i do like on the surface the way the media and the democrats portray it it looks bad but i think that trump probably did not look at it that way he was not saying it that way and it's being misrepresented purposely the people who are doing it know what they're doing and i think trump makes a lot of his own problems honestly i think he does but at the same time i think his enemies take advantage of those problems in ways they would not if he were uh you know a democrat or a republican who's going with the program uh yeah i'm you know i'm not uh i'm not a hardcore trumpist or anything like that i think trump has made a lot of dumb mistakes that he brings on himself and this is one of them and i think well you know we'll see how it unfolds but uh i think ultimately i i i i do think ultimately that uh it is being done in a way that would never be done with any other president former president it would never be done but they're doing it now and they're telling themselves they're doing it for some justifiable reason which is not actually justifiable and it is evil and it is tyrannical and they are going to destroy the country by doing it uh i'll be surprised we don't end up in civil war over this be honest i'm sorry like what's up i want to know which part is fake which part of what oh it's been a it's been a witch hunt since day one and i'm sorry so why so why i'll tell you what part is fake i'll tell you what part joe bine was holding classified documents for decades in his garage so where's the raid where's the concern where's the charges hillary clinton had uh hold on hold on hillary clinton had had fucking classified documents uh on a private server she then wiped the servers wiped her phones that were subpoenaed that were subpoenaed and uh there's no intent so she gets off now uh trump gets charged what how are we supposed to look at this i'm not going to civil war what you're saying just let me try to understand that's what you're saying is either one of you i mean he was the one that's not did you want to add something to that riddle before i go off oh yeah i well i suppose there was a yeah just 37 counts of that right another another one they've indebted him before it's not the first time it's happened right right yeah really equated before it's uh he has actual proof that it that he's he's actually been secure about it i mean it's just it's just true yeah i want to throw out there i want to throw out there and i can't wait for this and i can't wait for this trial it's gonna be great i love it it's gonna be fucking gangbusters riddle hold on hold on hold on the clock hold on hold on and i just want to throw out there that all the cases they were talking about all throughout the trump presidency all these cases they were talking about that we're gonna sing trump they all went nowhere i just want to say that okay riddle you don't think that he had classified documents that he wasn't supposed to have what does that mean it's because last we talked about right do you think obama has documents he's not supposed to have say riddle i said no they were talking about that it's all presidential cat yeah he wasn't the president i don't when he had those no these documents were under his presidency uh that's what it was so he has legal right to have them no so there is a process that he's supposed to go through and he went through the process so he didn't know he didn't that's why the archival records act the presidential records act why did the archives ask for it back the presidential records act what are you talking about cluck never you're what are you talking about shift had seriously what the fuck are you talking about you know the president you know the presidential records act yeah the president yeah yeah that act says that he's supposed to return all um classified documents you don't the the um archive yes it does it's supposed to return it you're supposed to keep in contact with it yeah okay hold on you really think that obama isn't fucking flush and classified documents as we speak he's the one that enabled a lot of the downfall of the u.s. why this is our issue we're not against the rule of law or any of these things but you gotta admit like this is something i've been tracking for over 20 years it's funny there is a definite there's a definite slanted application of justice and media coverage when it comes to this stuff over and over and over and over again like are we supposed to just keep taking this or at some point are we supposed to fight back because i think that point is coming you gotta unmute liberal cock on me unmute i'll meet you today oh yeah okay so one of the things that the presidential records act um does is it establishes the presidential records automatically transferred into the legal custody of the archivist as soon as the president leaves office what where's that from we keep presidential records act here i can i can link it hold on god damn it i know i'm pretty i'm pretty sure that's not how it works i should yeah hold on i know hold on hold on hold on i got it once again are we getting into the nitty gritty here it's fine it's gone i don't want to but apparently neither do i but he wants to so let's do this let's do this then are you smoking us i'm kind of jealous actually i'm kind of jealous here and here's the thing is like trump could be totally guilty of something here right could be but it doesn't sound like here's the thing though here's the thing though is like are we really supposed to here believe that like past presidents have been guilty of these sorts of things of course but they let them there's like a code there's a code you that you know that's going on with them and they just decided that king ralph here is not going to be subjected to those same fucking standards that's what it is i want to read my source and tell me that that the president wasn't supposed to turn over those um records to the archive do what now say that again i want you to read my source and tell me that the president wasn't supposed to leave me where's the link where's the link you posted a source yes all right i got it okay here we go archives dot gov did i die public ownership personal man i don't want to go by posting oh wait it's not that much hold on establishes public ownership of all presidential records and defines the term okay so public ownership means anybody's got a right to it requires that vice presidential records be treated the same way as presidential records okay i think these all should be public anyway it's interesting specifically the p r a i'll put these on here so i'll be killed me establishes a process which the president may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the president leaves office yeah in fact i feel like what this shows is that all this what this does basically the presidential records act is make presidential records with the president deems so as public record which anybody from the public can request through the uh public uh uh freedom of public freedom of information acts yeah that oh are you trying to tell me right now wait wait are you trying to tell me i'm drunk i'm sorry guys i'm trying to tell me right now the presidential records act um allows anyone from the public to have access to top secret information i think luck might be the only sober one here yeah i'm maybe so i'm pretty drunk maybe so but he's not the correct Thursday is my drunk night well hold on don't take what are you so it says here let me say okay let me try to finish his sentence okay establishes a process but was the president may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the president leaves office but it says by which the president may restrict and the public may obtain so the wording here is a little bit dodgy so why don't you explain that to me well so wait what is your claim around these things what are you saying my claim is that this is bullshit this is like generalized bullshit that was enacted under obama but considering considering it just said up here it's all meant to be it's all meant to be manipulated the prd was amended in 2014 two years before trump came in office so what do you think wait do you think they amended it because they knew trump would be doing this bullshit and that they would be like absolutely yeah absolutely absolutely oh my god isn't jimlin we got people okay i'm crazy no so you're reading doesn't even have anything to do with why trump is in trouble i'm so lost at what even the top what even i believe you i really do i believe that you are out of it let's play well all right you guys will play a game well i am um i am done for the night yeah me too all right well as always y'all have a good night okay we'll see you later later i think i'm gonna dip as well yeah that's it guys i'm trying i gotta tell you i i i gotta tell you i have been at it all day i'm done too thank you for showing up guys everybody i really appreciate it i'm ready to crash gonna end it here we'll keep doing this every thursday we'll we'll get better every thursday uh next thursday yeah we're gonna look that we're gonna be doing this every thursday uh next thursday we're gonna be reading on uh nibble gold ceo is gonna be coming on here we're gonna talk to him who we're gonna yeah yeah he's gonna come on here and hang out with us so that should be nibble gold nibble gold no really the ceo yeah he's gonna come hang out with us yeah oh wow okay yeah it should be cool yeah i'm gonna talk to him a little bit and he's gonna hang out with us yeah should be sure not being you're not being trolled i'm not being trolled okay all right he's a sponsor he's just sponsoring that's actually he's just sponsoring our channel for like three years now so all right you have a point all right he's a good guy i have yeah i know i'm good friends with him so i'm not good friends but i know i was gonna say good friends yeah i'm not good friends uh i'm friends with him online you know what i mean you know what that is yeah so anyway i should probably speed away should take my camera off it's good to see you though yeah it's good to see you too riddle hey riddle hey riddle buddy what what are you gonna camera oh because uh oh you want to see my yeah man it's good to see you for once i'm i'm glad to place the space i'm glad to place face with the boys yeah yeah well i look terrible honestly this is i hate this fucking shit i i that's why i don't like going on camera but um yeah it was good to talk i mean you said you said that uh maybe coward cowards if we didn't uh put the camera on so yeah we we have to put our faces out there man yeah don't be a plus hey fair enough well it's out there now so all right well i appreciate you hey hey buddy i appreciate you coming on and see you finally i've i've known you for a while now so yeah it's good to finally put a face with the name so well it's a portion that i'm just gonna feed it on into the terrorist watch us no i'm just yeah thanks a lot dude me even more watched now before before that or that ever even though i'm already on it that's cool hey if you want to stick around and play some games i'm gonna play i'm staying on anyway all right i'm in the stream good night okay yeah in the stream but that already streamed they already had it i don't even know