 Hi everyone and welcome. This is Melissa Arma with the Stock Swoosh and I'm here with Jaguarpaw. Jaguarpaw, good morning. Good morning, Melissa. Thank you for having me. Jaguarpaw, how many years has it been since you took the Golden Gat course? It's quite a while, isn't it? Yes, it is. I believe it was December 2013. Really? That long ago? Then you were one of my first students? Yes, yes. Well, now you've been in the trading room, I think, the whole time when you were actively trading, you took a break there for a while, but other than the break that you took off trading, you've been in the room the whole time, right? Yes, that is correct. Now, something happened to you recently that you shared with me yesterday, and I said this is an amazing story and I thought you could share it to possibly help other people. Yes, well, there are a lot of things that happened last year. For one, at the very beginning, I had suffered from a serious injury that put me out for a while and I wasn't able to come back until the end of the summer. At that time, I opened an account, a prop account. It just stopped my platform from working around early October, at the very beginning. I think it was the first, the second, and I had no access, I couldn't trade. I was so excited about earning a season and it was a shame that I couldn't trade at all. Fortunately, at least I came to the rescue. I try. I was able to take trades using another account with options. So you had that account already set up beforehand. You already had that account. I set up two accounts, one for day trading and the other one for options. Now, did you know how to do options before I started the option letter, right? Yes, yes. But like I said, I was trying to get my mojo back and my confidence levels up again. Baba was the first trade I did, the first option trade I did. I think I only invested like 1600 or so and it was 140% in profits, which in gains was 2400, just above. And then Apple was my next winner. That was, I felt at that time my confidence levels were high. So I decided to invest 6000 and I got a return and 90% return. That was like 5400 in profits. Yeah, I remember getting that email from you and that. And did you get out at the height of that or that was just the first move up in that? No, just the first move, the big fat green bar. That's when I took everything. I was like, okay, I'm satisfied. That's like 5k in profits I had to take it. Is that the most you ever made in one trade ever, like day trader option or anything? Yes, that is. That's why I thought I was up too much. Okay, I never had this much in profits, so I'm just going to take it to the bank. Now, let me ask you this. Is that the most you ever risked in one trade before as well? Yes, for an option, yes, absolutely. Did you feel comfortable with that or were like, did you sleep at night until you get out of it? I mean, were you like okay? I would have not done it if I didn't feel confident. Like I said, at that time, had I had that confidence with the Baba, which was my first trade, I would have been a different story profit wise. And percentage wise, it was bigger than the apple. Yes, the apple was a case representation of my confidence. It all has to do with confidence. So it was, as far as your overall confidence though with trading period, anything, the day trading, the options, do you have confidence in gaps? And also, this is second question. Do you have more confidence to short or go long? Two questions there. Shorty, shorty. Despite the fact that I wasn't able to trade, I kept waking up early. I mean, here in California, I have to wake up at five in the morning. I would go through the whole process of rating the gaps that I like. And I did that from the month of September all the way through December to the present, I should say. And yes, the overall analysis was short, worked the best and the fastest. So I prefer shorts. Okay. So as far as gaps themselves, how do you feel about trading gaps? I can't wait for this early season to start. I want. You're funny. I mean, you know, the thing is that for the day trading, I just think it's good to be out in and out so quickly. And do you still have the other job? You're still doing the other job that you're doing or you don't work every day? Or what's your schedule now? Because I know you're so much early. By the time you're done, it's only, what, 7, 7.30 out there? Yes. Yes. Well, after this, you know, after this accident that I suffered from, I sort of transitioned. I had to take a break. Good thing I had savings to back me up. Now I'm doing teaching in the afternoons. I teach children from all ages, from kindergarten all the way to high schoolers. I teach math. That's wonderful. Yes. It's something new and very, very rewarding. Do you have an education background or this is just brand, brand new? This is brand, brand new. And yes, I was fortunate to get hired and I rapidly also got promoted to the lead instructor at this center. And I'm looking forward to even, they already mentioned that they want me to become the center director because of just how, based on my performance. I can totally see you doing that, especially with children. That sounds like the perfect job for you, Jaguar Paw. I mean, it's just, honestly, I totally see you wanting to help young kids. I think that's wonderful. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I like the flexibility of that because it's just in the afternoons and I have the morning free. I do have weekends free too, right? Right. Yeah, which is great. Now the story about you trading the account though, so doing the options, you were talking about yesterday, allowed you to build a day trading account at a retail brokerage house, right? Yes. Yes. From just doing those couple of trains or you had an initial thing or how did you build it up? Well, I had an initial, the options account was an account I started with about 16K. Okay. The Baba was like a 24, I said 2400 in profits. The Apple was 54, you know, more than 5000. And the Google was another one. I felt very confident and that one was like more than 4K in profits. Wow. I don't think you told me about that one that you did, made that much on that one. Yeah. At the time I was dealing with the other broker, you know, the whole mess there. Yeah. Well, it sounds like you got everything worked out. So now you're going to day trade this year in 2017. Your plan of action is you're going to day trade, you're going to do the options. What else? Do you know how much you're going to risk? Do you know where you're going to get out of these options? Are you going to get in and out quickly or are you going to hold them? Have you thought about what you're doing with them so you can do just as well this year? I'm going to in and out as soon as I see the gains I hit my daily goal. I'm just going to be happy with it. Okay. Anything. This is all around. Day trading and options, you mean? Day trading. Well, the options is different. I mean, the options is different. It's just how I feel, how confident I feel. Okay. For the amount you're going to rescue me. Right. Correct. The Google was a 3500 investment. Right. So you flipped it around and doubled it, which is perfect. I wonder if you had done, you said 140%. I have to go back and look at that, Bob, because I held it longer than you. I did not get out the next day. I ended up holding it right before the last week before the following week. If you had taken the same risk you took in Apple, if you exited it the next day, what would you have made in it? I guess like nine grand, I guess, huh? If you were six and you said it was 140% or something? Right. Nine grand. But I got in at a, I waited because I waited to get a cheaper price because I missed the first move. Oh, okay. Right. So I had that factor in. So had I waited, I would have been just as close to 20K. Wow. Exciting. It is. It is exciting. So now I learned pretty much just wait for those, for those good ones. Yeah. Be patient on trying to force anything or, you know, when, when I don't feel the confidence don't, don't, don't put that amount that you put for those winners. Now let me ask you one more thing. And then I'll let you go today because I appreciate you talking. What is it that gives you, if you had to pinpoint it, what is the differentiation? You're saying it's confidence, but what in the chart? What in the gap? What gives you the confidence? Or is it me talking and saying it about something? Is what, what is it that pushes you over the edge? The chart or the gap or something or me talking or what? It has to do with a, with a chart. Yes. That's, yeah, I have, I have been looking at charts for a good while now that I have, well, I have learned so much from you. And it has helped me, that experience has helped me identify certain things and everything is in the, in the, in the, in the rating, like you always say. And then, and then the, the extra point is the, you know, this confidence comes from your intuition, you know, when, when you really, you, you are, you're able to, to, we are, we are, as your students, we're able to read your excitement. And once I, I can see that, and then I look at the chart, I add those two things together and I, it's the magic formula. I guess that's what it is. It's so interesting because I think that, that takes knowing me, which is interesting because I talked to another student the other day, Shower Singer, pretty much said the same thing. It's, it's people, if you, it's, it's interesting because it's the system then trading with me and hearing the difference in my voice when I like something or when I don't, even though I rate different things. And that's probably what makes a difference why some days I do things and some days I don't. And, and that pushes it over the edge where people get the confidence then listening to me. And I think that comes from being in the room and knowing me. And again, you've been with me now for, it's more than three years. So yeah, definitely. Yes. Yeah. So the, the friend that's been putting, putting the time to learn this, this gaps, the system works and having that experience, having that, that confidence has helped me turn, turn my account and I've been able to actually open a retail, retail account. That is just fantastic. That's, this is one of the, well it's the beginning of the year but I said this in the room this morning. It's one of the best stories I've heard in a long time. I, I'm so proud of you. I know you've had your ups and downs and stuff has happened in your life personally. And this is what happens to everyone. And then they get to a point, maybe you're at the point now you're just never going to look back, Brolyo. I'm really, really proud of you. That is a fantastic story. And it's a lot of money that you've made in a short time. And, and, and I, I know you put in your time. And like you said, you did the class in 2013, but you didn't straight, you know, trade straight all that time. But it all came together for you. I mean, it's, it is coming together for you. And I think it's great. And now with this new job, it's perfect. And it's just perfect for you. Oh, yes. That's the one thing I love too. It's like, I'm able to dedicate, you know, 100% of my time to this, you know, the mornings, I have 100% dedication to this for the moment I wake up. And because I really want this to, I want to make it happen. And I have made my, my goal. And that's what I'm working towards to being able to actually write things on my own and choose the winner. That's, that's my goal. Yeah. Now, would you ever only trade or do you, would you still, you still want to do the teaching because you like it? Are you doing it because you like it in the money or really, like, if you get to the point where you're making so much money trading, would you, would you quit doing anything else? Or you still think you would want to teach the kids? I'm teaching the kids because I want to teach. I like, I like teaching. And it's something that I didn't know I had in me until I, I became an instructor. So yeah. Well, you're a parent. You had to know you had some of it in you. Yeah. Well, I like, I mean, I never had this, this background before until I, until now very recently. And that's why I, I said, you know, now, because it's one thing to, to do this at home. And then another is to teach, you know, strangers completely. Yeah. You know, and kids can be difficult. I'll take your word on that. I wouldn't know. Well, fortunately for me, the kids seem to, to, to like me and then to understand and learn, which is the most important part. I wish you lots of luck in 2017. I think you're going to do great. And I'm sure that hearing your story will help other people decide about their trading careers because I know it's, it's a process. You know, you don't roll out of bed one day all of a sudden and, and you know, hit the mark right away. It's a, it's a journey. And you've definitely been on it. And I just could be happier for you. Thank you. Thank you, Melissa. You are, you're, I just want to say that you're not just a great trader. You are an amazing human being who is always making a difference in people's life. And you have definitely have, you have an impact in mind. Thank you. So please don't, don't forget how, how special that is. You are greatly appreciated. Thank you.