 Welcome to ToffeeTV, we are looking back at the season that has just happened the 2017-18 season. We've already discussed some things so go and check them out if you haven't already. We're talking about the highs and lows of the season. This would be a very quick video. Well no I mean if it was a video just on highs it would be a very short video and it was a video just on lows. It would be a very long video but we're just gonna so let's I think we should start with the lows first. I mean the season was full of lows but what are the main ones that's been to mind? Games or points within the season? Whatever you feel is a lot. I think not signing a strike, it was the first lob for me when the window shut and we didn't we didn't have one in because then he starts to go oh right this isn't gonna be the way we hope to be. I think Cooman losing his job and everything around it not necessarily him losing his job but everything that was around it the performances the realisation that this wasn't going to plan that obviously is never so and then the club not having seemingly not having a clue who was replacing him for a few weeks you know it took three weeks I think before Marco Silva was approached. Do you think that shows how bad the situation was that they were prepared to sack him without a clear indication of what was going on after or do you think that shows out just bad things out of the club? I think it's a bit of both. I think it was unexpected I think I don't think he could survive after the Arsenal game you know you had to be far too around by side you're supposed to be fighting challenging with and I know there was you know it was too on-wing gone I was sent off so they made the most of it you know team like Arsenal but I think I think the board had to act to being to defeat by Bairn Lee we went to Brighton and we didn't play very well down there and got out of jail in the last minute of pen and you know the European stuff had gone on lost their own to Leon and got battered by Arsenal so there was a lot of stuff that wasn't gone smoothly and I think I think you should always have a plan you know what I mean and maybe with hindsight you should have sacked him after the Bairn Lee defeat when he went into the international break yeah maybe that would have been the time to do it but you can understand them wanting to give him a bit longer but even if we didn't sack him after that Bairn Lee defeat we should have them listen we don't know if they were but you'd like to think oh certainly I would start looking at other managers and see what's available because that's what that's what the top clubs do they look around and go well the cushion of Undrafe was there wasn't it well I think I think they wanted to give Undrafe to go I think Bill probably was in Mishiri's here going you know what let's give this let's well but we can take our time see what's what let's give Dave the Undrafe then see what he can do in the meantime who knows you might be able to study it and then whatever yeah so that was I suppose that was a lot but the feet football wise obviously Atalanta away I think was a lot because it was the first group game and you were like get over there it draws all right you know maybe we can win but it draws all right and then we go over and we were so comfortably beaten and it was a few days after spares are beating us three and also you were looking for some kind of reaction you know and then we went and got be falling on the Sunday by United it's sort of cemented our bad way because we come out of that face the second week of the season sorry man city split and Chelsea almost like the Chelsea one was a throw away it was almost like well you know what it was the end of a tough week it's Chelsea away we've got a few couple of injuries here in there blah blah and then the comeback from the international break obviously the disappointments a lot I'm being a big low for me was not signing someone on Santa Fe deadline day you know not getting the plays in that room acquired that week and then coming back obviously getting beat by space and then going to Atlanta with a lot of hope going you know what these are these are not brilliant side they're not okay sad and I'm playing playing just I thought I thought we started the game or I really had that little chip at Nill Nill list to keep me the good shape from and then and I think we'd had another effort on goal and it was like started all right here but once they scored the first goal everyone's head just went didn't it there was like a gulf between the two and the this every opportunity they created was just like the same change and then number 10 just kept on getting all of the ball and we were just knowing it like that sense of oh dude don't even play all the time just had a soft run they looked a bit like Costa and you look on and go yeah why haven't we got someone like him who's who's just a stopgap almost book and do that that was the big start to get the realization of that we have massive problems and it was gonna take it's gonna take time to sort them out and almost with the fate that would what we faced of who we played it was almost like where are we gonna you know where are we gonna sort these problems out and they were never really addressed and that was the answer like as I say like you said away how was he equally if not worse because obviously it was unswerving charge then and it was that it was that idea of unswerving was coming into to revigorate the players or try to and it was just like you were just sitting thinking this is a bad bunch no one knows how to get anything out of them and it's gonna take something drastic and that night we were just again all over the place all over the place they're not even a good side they're not even a good side and the decimator this the barely did and I know we had again we had injuries and kids coming on the bed off the bill and off the bench and stuff and it was just it was just it was just really really bad and then Southampton followed on from that and Southampton was as low I would probably suggest as I've been as an emitonian for a while because I watched that game against again and not a good Southampton team a team that I've just stayed up just seem like couldn't score goals and they batted I think they scored nine goals when they played us and they scored they batted us like battered us like you know I know we got to want we got it to our time at 1-1 it's just stolen from Guilfee and then again Baines went off injured and the back four consisted of it consisted of Williams, Jagie Elker, Keane, Kenny and it was just all over the place and players just didn't know what they were doing and we were conceding simple goals you know those three players on the pitch and we conceded a header you know and headers and it was it was Rooney was on the bench and he never came on and again it was just like who's in control who's who is who is who's gonna lead who is leading who's leading on the pitch who's leading off the pitch and obviously that's when the decision was made to bring in some alibis which you know some people will dispute whether it was needed at that time but if someone sort of hands you almost to get out a free jail card and you go you go you just look at you don't look at the small print at the well you do and you go I don't really give a shit I'll sort that out later but for now we want this so you know I mean like it's like no if he can sort it out right now I will worry about all the other stuff later and that was my sort of feeling on some of this at the time ever when everyone else was like moan and moan I was like you'll keep us up and we'll get rid of them and that's happened but at the time I was just like we're down we're terrible no one can get a tune out of us the players that don't look like they want to be here there's no team spirit there's nothing there we've got all kinds of things and everything go start going your head through your head then what what what will happen if you know if we go down the state that's the stadium gone blah blah blah blah blah and it's just all those things just kicked the panic and that was horrendous so I'm thinking was horrendous yeah it was it was it was a real it was a wake-up calls from the right thing but it was a real like eye-opener of these players are just all over the place they're absolutely all over the place there's no togetherness there's no which is not difficult to score against and it was it was okay it was a mess it was a mess and it was you know couple of heavy defeats in a week it was like you know we are in trouble here and all of that's coming in you you want to get behind the manager so we come in and we're like you might be alright he's never had these players as good as this to work with and obviously you know we had that one of the highs of the season on the night he came in and you know we've not the high of the season and we'll never know why it all clicked that night we'll never know if it was David Onzred doing if it was the players the spondent because Aladise was in the stands or if it was just the way the game went and we got a goal and we got ahead and we felt confidence and everything fell from there we'll never know but no you know history book sales we won't fall in and well yeah I mean in terms of I mean there's a couple of the lows I'll come on to them but in terms of highs I mean that week the West Ham game you know winning winning that game 4-0 and Rooney scoring arguably the goal of the season and again a hat and then following on from that the Huddersfield game on the Saturday even that whole week was a big high because it was by the time the Huddersfield game finished you felt like we're gonna be alright yeah got someone in his you know organisers if nothing else and get his wins enough wins that will will be safe and we went ninth after the Huddersfield yeah and then suddenly was like what was the world was everyone worried about but it's obviously it's about keeping that momentum up isn't it and then but saying that before that you know you think about it Niasz and against Bournemouth that was fantastic when you think about it that was a fantastic day because that was like and he'd been completely completely rewritten off the manager written them off most of the fans have written them off we'd written them off everyone had written them off you know and you know we came on it you came on against Sunderland and Scores and everyone was just absolutely loving it because it was just like yeah is right Niasz you know you've done it and you had a squad number change as well to number 19 because Costa didn't get it and then you know the the Bournemouth game when you know we're getting beaten we're here we go again and he comes on and scores you know a couple of a couple of decent first one was a great goal and the second one was a really good strikers goal that was that was really that was that was that was good yeah was turned it down didn't he come on yeah it's a story wasn't it yeah it was you know pick pick for me the big save at 1-0 from the fob and then Niasz comes on and says the game on it's had you know three goals in two games in a week that's sub you know and come and still wasn't happy you know you could tell us you know the emotion he just like turned away and stuff but it was great that was a high to see him come off the bench and the man who had been written off to turn the game around and you know he's been the story of the season I think I mean Pickford was Pickford was player of the season because he was most consistent you know but I think the story of the season to you man yes yeah he's ended up being it's a massive shame that he missed out on the World Cup spot because it would have been like capped off a remarkable story for him and we're remarkable turn around for him Premier League but and another one would that be the Wofford game yeah 2-0 down you know on the way looking for this home win 2-0 down just going into an international break and again you just like and then suddenly you know the game gets tamed on its head a couple of substitutions were brave we had to go at them and suddenly they were they they they were gone and the atmosphere was you know what that day was or that seeing the half us because the first half we were terrible thing and this is we were abysmal but for that 20 20 minutes when Luchman came on and Dominic Alvin Luhn came on and we started having a real go with them and the fans got behind the players because you know we had a real go and Ness got the first one didn't he? Ness got the first one so I got his back in it you know suddenly it was everyone was like we can do this we can do this and we did and when you think about that game how unbelievable that game was you know to be to go and get you know get the to come from behind and you got to say penalty in the last minute or what you think is the last minute Bains put it in and then you go into the 96 something like Tom Cleverley get a penalty at the other end and misses it and you just it was unbelievable amount of emotions in that second half unbelievable incredible incredible game and that's the game of the season really isn't it but it's been massive over look that game a lot of important that game was no one's way if God has got the home win that was a massive massive win because again it was one of those games a bit you know you don't want to be you don't want to cut a drift you know not cut a jiff but cut a jiff in terms of everything well it was the momentum was going the other way wasn't it we won the game and we done it in adversity and the positive changes luckman came on and when at them Calvert Lou and you know the ass we were all of a sudden we thought we had a threat we were going forward it was you know when we managed to turn it around you know from two or three on the penalty by Cleverley just top there's just a cherry on the cake won it because he'd said all week you know Wafford never did the same and all that like and he misses the pen and you know and they've been really good that day you know wonder Mark O'Sill when we go in and ask them can be out there manager as well no wonder he said no but they played really well they could just go three or four and being out of sight against us and didn't locally and when we ended up winning it was it was a it was an unbelievable comeback really when you think about it but and there wasn't too many of them in terms of great performance that wasn't a great performance great turn around and be done well be done well to turn around because it was it was massive if he'd have lost that be them in and lost a week later then actually I thought it was palace wasn't it after the internet we did too too yeah and the ass got the retrospective so that was huge it was a huge game that huge you know when you think about like picking up points in the first half of the season you know though that game and as I said the bomb of game they were real real they were real real highs as well as I think the other one I was throwing to that would be more than it's not high this is more of a relief was was split getting the getting the results in split and getting through getting through then they faced off scoring and really had his push back and then just after our time Guilty just it's one from nearly the halfway line and you know just just bounces in and then you're like this is gonna take I mean we need we nearly conspired to throw it away give a penalty away which pick for that to save and that'll be actually waves again money we nearly conspired to throw it away they really threw everything at us but we stood up and we got the result we got the result got through that was a big relief more than a high but I would say I'd say in the second half of the season there was lows and the two weeks when we went to Wofford and we played and then we played barely the week after and we still had hopes I think at that point of getting that seven place you know we did a video on it saying can we get it can we can we still get European football which is sort of you know we've everything fell our way which it did for barely and but I think those two weeks I mentioned it Wofford going there and not even you know at nil nil would sort of ten minutes left just throwing putting snydlin on and about to put snydlin on and then they scored and then going over being Dominic Calvin we were on instead because now we've got to because we're getting getting beat and then the week after going to Bailey and Ashley Williams was horrendous Keane was horrendous picked for the wasn't wasn't much better in terms of how we conceded the goals and being you know being one nil up and throwing it all away played really well as well in the first half because we were shocking at Wofford we didn't I don't even I think we had one shot in the first half or something that was it was just terrible it was a terrible performance they were there for the taking they were struggling they were there for the taking and we just didn't stretch them we started with you man you're so front yeah and took them off from pop tossing on you didn't actually change anything yeah just you know when you were crying out for another set of over to really stretch them he didn't he went like for like and not in change then tossing just became a man who was isolated you know and then to lose the goal was was terrible you know so he didn't turn in the box I mean it's like a flaking you know and then to barely the next week and we actually play well in the first yeah we didn't we should we should we have four real the chances they are welcome mr. some cities and tossing scored his first goal and was a good editor and we'd look the threat on the break and we come out in the second half and they just put another stage on the other side and we didn't know how to cover in it was the goals were just bad bad goals and you know we miss a chance guilty misses a chance at one one they score Williams get some sense off and you just look and go and you know we dragged ourselves back into being able to challenge barely and it's just it was the manner of it and that's when them that's when I think people started to turn and I like wasn't it those two games because David we went to you know United at home boom at the way Christmas was very disappointing United at home being very lay a glove on them that was disappointing Liverpool in the cup disappointing but you but we don't all right so you were like you know never the easy losing a cup game but especially not today spares of Wembley was a pundit Arsenal away was horrendous by the way we forgot about that yeah that was absolutely that was update that was one of the worst 20 minutes of football that was up there with Sal Danton yeah to be fair Arsenal playing great and we went out play the new system mangala just coming out of train for an hour or something and was here all day doing this company you know no it was because I remember after 20 minutes we were three nil dancing and this could be 10 yeah it really could be just we were and what what was mad about that that was when I first started going I don't know what he's doing here because it if he's throwing the game away which is like he was when he just played a different scene yeah why do you play talks and money plays a classic and blasted and have a real go at it and I think I suppose another low will have been Adam all along going out to do yeah on loan and now he wasn't playing you know on at the time you go on it might be good for him but Bellassie just hasn't been ready and all it's done for Bellassie is it's kind of sourd it with him with the fans because now the fans is looking go get it in crap and you come up after my horrendous injury takes time and look man should have been the one that was playing and Bellassie should have been it's a place with 20 minutes left don't remain and felt the way in and shot they should have been it to that shot and changed with walkers on the other side and talks and would have given us a real dynamic front three and that was that was a frustration so you'd like me I mean we could be a roll night but the real lows of the second half of the season for me was will the waste was without the shadow of it out arson because it was just pathetic I mean we don't okay around really like we did last year because we don't quite well around we won a lot of games we probably should win Liverpool we should have beat the chances we missed at the end of that yeah criminal really for a derby match don't care whether they'd the rest of the few day plays the 11 still cost more than ours and things like that so deep a day for the taking you know it was only really Mohammed Salah that didn't play the other two played at some stage and we missed good opportunities at the end of that so you know frustration with that but it's difficult to pick a proper high up because it was just so bad yeah it was what I'm here to say what most of this get most of the wins second half of the season more like just relief ready you just won the game you got through it you know I mean there's no sort of like yeah the only one I would say that we won away from home was Huddersfield which we won without any deal Newcastle away was was a big win there's a big win there's a big relief and it obviously was kept kept us ticking over but I don't know the enjoyment was taken out of the games in the second half of the season because you were just you were just there were you were just there was no entertainment to just games to win and I think I think that's right what you just said I think that's the law ultimately we can pick games out and we'll always have low points in a season you'll have games where you go we didn't even turn up humans run a Chelsea you know horrendous performance and stuff like that and field and you know but for me the override factor probably for a lot of people and probably you is the low point is the performance level of the players throughout the season has just been really really bad I don't think there's you can you honestly say we've talked about the high points of that Wofford game the crowd won the Wofford game because the emotion when they asked God and that was him just being him chasing everything down got the crowd going and they started but like shit never think of the crowd running well can you honestly with the exception of West Ham can you honestly pick a performance out where you went we were brilliant that day really really good there's not and that's it was not in a season when we played 57 games there wasn't one performance that you pick up pick out and go that was magnificent West Ham was very good West Ham was good yeah we did what we needed to do the goals but for after half time when they came out after half time and then we got the goal that was that was very very Navy that game and then you know we got the we went on and sorry another high another high because the same as Coleman to say oh yeah yeah performance against less that night and is just having him back and being people just having shame was because of the injury just having him back this was a massive thing brilliant having him back with brilliant but again the overriding thing will be performance level and that when people say what more do you want I want to see me team look like they can play a game of football our teams go and have a look at stats under even under cumin we'd have 20 shots in the game and I wouldn't say humans football was great far from it you know Moise Moise's teams are some members going to follow my having 34 shots away from them 34 attempts a goal away from you know under Sam Aladise it was 89 one on target that's that's what more we want we want to we pay a lot of money to go much again football we want to be entertained we know we won't win all the time we know that we know we yeah we're not winning trophies regularly but yeah we at least want to look like a football team I think yeah I think yeah I think Wofford was the one way so and yeah the Wofford one for me was just I think that was just as you just said before that was the pure emotion of the night it was the ups and the downs and there was other games that we there was other games a good thing and that boom was a bit like that as well but there was other games where they were just we just wins. West Ham was a big win though. Oh what? That whole week? No that week. That night and that whole week was huge. 17th and we were 17th. That was a big week. That was a huge week. I just turned into individual sort of highs and lows of other games. The winnings you were just like you know the second half the season the wins were just like you were like yeah Lester ticked it off I mean Lester we were very very comfortable till they got the penalty which was stupid by Rooney and Palace was pretty comfortable winning or any of them really any of the ones we won second half of the season were good we're pretty you know standard but the emotion involved in the West the West Ham game and the Woffa game yeah others feel was quite safe over the second half obviously the second goal was was a big thing but but you're right there's none you can really say oh we were magnificent in that game or because even in the Europa League you know when we won one game. One of our best performances of the season. That probably was our best performance but it's who we were playing against. Yeah but they come to gooders and got a draw. I know. With allegedly our first team. Which was a low as well so that's kind of shows you doesn't it. You know we went over there and we had classing in the midfield with Snidlin we had Luchman playing Morales playing Fraser Homeby you know we had Harry Charles he's a midfield player right side of playing left back and was very you know when you go from Auckland so you go through the team young Anthony Gordon came on 16 years of age. We went and we looked like a football team and we were playing away. That's what makes it more annoying about Luchman though isn't it. I mean I was fuming that night I was absolutely fuming. I was fuming that night because it was just the way it was done the way it was announced like ten minutes before kickoff. He said two weeks earlier he wasn't gonna let him go out on loan and then he wanted them to go to Derby and the kids like now I'm insistent. That really pissed me off for all those reasons and we've seen them a couple weeks before or three weeks before wherever it wasn't yeah fake call through against Liverpool coming on and people were like who's this Luchman? Like people who don't and at the time I mean even myself I was like yeah but even though it doesn't fit and starts and every time he'd had a start he was a bit disappointing but again he was another one like like like Vlassich or whatever you know you pull him in and then you don't see him for like a month or whatever where it's what it's been proving it you know over in Germany he says that you needed a run of games to just pick up the pace and other people getting to know him and you think the second half the season there's been plenty of opportunities when that could have happened for him when he could have played when Vlassich is playing he's been garbage or even when Wolcott hasn't played you know he could have been left he could have been right they could have crossed over and with Baines coming back and with Coleman coming back. We had like the last six weeks here this season we've had nothing to play for. We've been safe since February. Yeah but when we'd be bright and we had 37 points we were safe that day really and then we'd be stoked a week later since Stoke we had 40 points since then we've had we could have played I know you know Vlassich hasn't been playing but some luckman could have played those last half a dozen games and really got himself up to speed and all that but you're right it's but sometimes a player going out on loan like that yeah helps them and they'll come back whether he wants to come back. No I know what you mean but I think he does want to come back. I think he's set himself and I think if you know the new manager will now see he's done it at the top level in Germany it'd be like he can do it but he's done it a bit earlier. Yeah that's like a high annullo isn't it. So the positive and a negative. Well the negative was we should have had them with us but the positive is he's grasped his chance while he's gone over there. True. He's ended up with four goals so. Let us know your highs and lows of the season I'm sure you'll have your own experiences. Listen you might have gone to a game and it might have been shite I'm ready to go up B but you might have had a boss day. You might have that football for you isn't it. It's sure most of the away fans have a boss day. They do have a boss day. Why would they go. It's not the football is it. That's actually very very true. Let us know. Listen it might have been going I mean I think for loads like the like to split would have been a bit high because it was a massive you know don't go over there and a lot of people went over there and had a great time. It was safe. Yeah and had a great time and. Rouge and better. Yeah it's all about experience isn't it. I went to the Leon and we got beat and it wasn't great but you know what had a good time. Had a good time. I'd rather have seen us win because obviously you would always rather you see a team win but it was a good experience like 12 win emitting. He went to Leon you've seen actually Williams and Morgan Snarland in the same team so it was all good. Yeah and Guilfeau Front. Guilfeau Front. Actually played quite well. He did alright. That plan nearly worked. He did he missed. I mean he missed two good chances. He was the one. The one they're after. It would have made it 1-1. No it would have made it 1-0. 1-0 so yeah. 1-0 yeah. You just don't. That was the time when we just concede 1 it was 3. Of course goal goal goal because everyone was like the plan went once one went in. Everything fell apart. It did. So let us know your highs and lows of the season in the comments. Thanks for watching. Make sure you check out all the other videos we're doing as we look back on our horrendous season. Thanks for watching. We'll see you later.