 So even though the force to vote era and effort is over, you know I still believe that it's a good idea to get a floor vote on Medicare for all I know that some folks disagree with that strategy and that's fine But I want to see like a concerted effort by progressive Democrats in Congress to continue pushing when it comes to Medicare for all I don't want them to just basically like accept defeat and You know accept that we're not gonna get Medicare for all during the Biden era. So we might as well not even fight I want them to continue to advance the goal Fighting for Medicare for all. And so what I want from them is a signal that they do actually have a plan and In an interview with the American prospect the newest members of the squad Marie Newman specifically she did assures that she does have a plan and she was also asked about a force to vote and She said something that was really really interesting and I feel a little bit reassured based on what she says But then immediately we'll go to something that Mondair Jones says and I don't like what he says And I don't feel reassured based on what he says But first Marie Newman was asked there's this debate now about where to go strategy wise the force to vote calls come to mind in Particular where do you think we go strategy wise as progressives? She responded by saying I like strategies that work I know there's noise out there and I don't understand that strategy. It's articulated by folks who have never spent a day in Congress I love the spirit and the passion. I'm with them on spirit and passion and desire for that legislation It's not like we're sitting on our hands. We do have a plan to bring a Medicare for all bill to the floor We're working on it. We're not going to let our cards be seen yet But are we going to work really hard on Medicare for all? 100% are we going to get it to the floor? 100% we have to bring Medicare for all to the floor in a responsible and powerful way that has good strategy That's the one I'm backing. I'm not backing a super risky throw the dice crapshoot model So I like most of what she's saying although I reject the implication that you know your input is invalid if you haven't been in Congress I mean, she was just sworn in I Think that strategic advice is important from outsiders because we don't have like that Insider bias. I mean we have the outsider bias, but I think that our input should still be valuable So I reject that but but putting that aside when it comes to a floor vote on Medicare for all she says We're 100% going to get it to the floor That's what I want to hear. I don't want to hear. Oh, well, you know what? It's not it's not the time It's not going to come up currently. We need to continuously push to advance Medicare for all and To hear her say that to signal to us that there's a sign Of life Friendly some members of the squad and they're going to keep fighting for this That's really important because look I will admit that it's it's a it's a difficult time To be a progressive member of congress because there are so many crises that our country faces I don't know where to begin like for me if I were a member of congress and I just got elected I wouldn't know where to start. There's there's too many issues to fix But what I do want to know is that Medicare for all is an issue that is at the forefront Of their priorities and this assures to me at least that It is Now we go to the part where marder jones is going to say something that kind of contradicts What mary newman says? I'm just going to read it to you. I'll tell you why I have an issue with it So he claims that the democratic party has in fact shifted to the left overall, which I actually disagree with But then he was asked about Medicare for all He was asked one place where that leftward drift doesn't seem or seems less obvious is the health care question There's a block that backs Medicare for all Joe Biden has supported the public option and house leadership has focused just on expanding the aca How do you think progressives should intervene here? He responded by saying imagine debating the merits of a public option versus Medicare for all When there is a six three conservative majority on the supreme court that will strike down the affordable care act So I push back on the idea that that's going to be the nature of the fight So, um, this ain't it. This is a really really bad take and I hope that more members of the squad don't agree with this I hope that they actually unequivocally reject this line of thinking because if you're waiting to fight for Medicare for all Until the conditions are right so that way it's not going to be attacked Well, you're never ever going to find the time to get Medicare for all It's never going to be the right time because we live in a capitalist system So even if there was an eight one liberal majority on the supreme court if you got it passed guess what Capitalist forces will attack that system once we actually get Medicare for all past It is going to be a constant battle forever that will never ever end To keep the progress that we've made in every single country that has either a single payer or a national healthcare system There's always the threat of privatization That's always going to be the case. We're going to constantly have to fight to expand benefits To fight, you know the forces of the private health insurance industry if they're not fully abolished with whatever You know a conception of Medicare for all passes if that's the case It's just this is a cop out to me and I don't like it and monday ron's Needs to reevaluate like what you fight for because if you are waiting to pass something at the safest moment You're not going to get anything accomplished. So to say oh, well, we can't pass Medicare for all When there's a 6 3 conservative majority on the supreme court Well, what can we get done? They can basically strike down anything I mean, there are things that lawmakers can do To protect their legislation from a constitutional challenge and there will be constitutional challenge challenges that pop up by conservative organizations and whatnot But I mean like This is the nature of politics You're not going to find yourself in the perfect situation where you pass something and it stands as it is We just need to get Medicare for all because once people have it, it'll be more difficult to take it away from them Right and you don't necessarily know for a fact that it will face a challenge I think it's very likely but this was the case even if bernie sanders were to become president We all anticipated Medicare for all to be held up to the highest scrutiny imaginable But you don't not fight for it willingly So yes, uh, I absolutely disagree with monday rjones That the nature of the fight will be Medicare for all versus a public option versus expanding the affordable care act And this is not to say that monday rjones is a sellout and doesn't support Medicare for all I believe that he does support Medicare for all. This is what he ran on And so far he hasn't given me any indication that he's backing away from that But I think that when it comes to strategy he has A lot to learn because this tells me that he either doesn't understand capitalism or has a flawed strategy of change So I hope that you know This thinking doesn't rub off on other members of the squad But I I am a lot more confident in aoc in quarry bush and marie newman now that she's reassured us And I just wanted to know that this issue isn't going to get put on the sidelines that they're going to continue To fight uh because look you've got to strike while the iron is hot during a pandemic We need health care more than ever 15 million americans lost their employer-based health insurance in 2020 So if we don't continue to push the envelope push this issue That's a failure on us. So I want to know that our allies in congress have our backs And I want them to know that we have their backs and when push comes to shove When they need us to make phone calls when they push a full floor vote on medicare for all Coordinate with us coordinate with left media. We will help you We will assist you because we want the same thing you want We want medicare for all because it is absolutely outrageous that people in this country continue to die And even during a pandemic the same folks who never supported medicare for all aren't even considering Re-evaluating their positions. So, um, you know, this is interesting. I'll link you to the full interview They also had cori bush on here as well and jamal bowman, but um Yeah, that's a really interesting questions asked by the american prospect Hopefully you will check out the full interviews with the newest members of the squad