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I see there's a comment hi Jenna. I will be right with you with your question. I want to get this so that I can see all of your questions and comments here live. So just bear with me for a moment say hello tell me where you're from. And we will get your questions in just a moment. So Jenna, I didn't get all your question if you want to try that again. And do you have any thoughts on how to and that's the end of it there but if you just putting your question again I would love to answer hi Mary Anne from Florida. Stop and tell me where you're from if you're listening live here I am here this afternoon on. Friday, and here to answer your questions there Jenna say do you have any thoughts on how to tackle lingering COVID infection in the gut new studies show the connection between long COVID and lingering virus hiding in the gut, suffering from long COVID, and it looks like there's more but I can start there and you can continue typing in, like I said everybody were live I'm here to answer your questions so tell me where you're from say hello and type in your questions and I can should be able to see you from where you're watching here and just answer these questions live. So long COVID this is a complex. It's really no different in functional medicine we've been dealing with chronic illness for a long time we've been dealing with reactivation of viruses like R&C and B, and even like chronic Lyme disease, Borrelia, a babesia, Bartonella or Lickia, etc. Rocky Mountain fever, Michael plasma, I've been dealing with infectious like this in patients for many many years. So there's not a lot new except that COVID has affected a huge part of the population. And it definitely increases the cytokine storm and so often post virus people will have sequelae, which we're now calling long COVID either brain fog or fatigue or auto immunity or inflammation. And it's going to be a big thing I think we are just at the verge of a tsunami in healthcare, as far as the increase in auto immunity and things that we are going to see since this pandemic. Another question on long COVID and what we can do. So this is complex. I'm starting to do some panels that look at different cytokines because what I want to know is which pathways are inflamed, and then how to mitigate each different pathway may have different answers. But in general I can tell you that some of the most important things that would work for most everyone would be an anti inflammatory diet very low sugar low carb if possible. You know, healthy fats healthy proteins and really watching the refined process sugars, clean air making sure you have air filtration in your house or your office or wherever you are, so that you're breathing non toxic air, things like wildfire smoke and toxic chemicals in our environment absolutely have an effect on our predisposition towards inflammation. We saw that with the wildfires that happened December 30 in my community burned down about 1000 houses, and we're still recovering from that. And a lot of you if you're local, you might have been some of those who've even lost your homes and so sorry because it was just traumatic for all of us, all that to say though the wildfire smoke which is getting worse every year. The amount of wildfires really does affect our immune system. I feel like it's probably as an inflammatory of an attack on our system as mold illness and mold related in fact, exposure. And said that clean air clean water making sure drinking water so anti inflammatory diet clean air clean water movement is good but a lot of post COVID patients will have exercise and tolerance and it's actually important not to overrun your system and push too hard, because part of the issue can be either thicker blood or hyper coagulation or difficulty with oxygenating the tissues. So some of the basic things that are really important are fish oil. And that SPMs can be really, really, really powerful. One of the ones I recommend that you can find on Dr Jill health.com is SPM active. That's a real great anti inflammatory. There's another product I have called Cytoblox C Y T O B L O X on Dr Jill health.com. This is a combination of Chinese skull cap and turmeric, and a few anti inflammatory herbs that tend to really calm down the system. So that's a clean air clean water clean food I can't say that enough. I'm gut I think you specifically asked about gut issues that's real common as well because there's many ace receptors in the gut, and very important to take care of the gut post COVID and if you have COVID long haul symptoms. Some of the things I recommend for the gut would be bovine immunoglobulins. There's a product called gut immune powder at Dr Jill. Sorry, Dr Jill health.com that you can use as a scoop or two per day and that will actually bind passively both a virus and pathogens. So the great kind of immune support on the gut level of the immunoglobulins that you can take as a powder. And then I love spore probiotics, and we have one called spore probiotic with IG, that's been really powerful and helpful post COVID those two things the gut immune powder, and the sport product probiotic with IG are really powerful and supporting that gut. And then like I said, clean diet is really really important. So if you want to exercise moderation you want to kind of do what you can do without getting excessive fatigue, it might be just a walk a couple blocks, and then slowly titrate up some people have coagulation issues post COVID. And if that's the case with you. You could, again with your doctor's direction I'm not giving you medical advice, you may need to take a baby aspirin, or you may need to be on something that's anti coagulant like garlic, or Balook, which is that systemic enzyme, you can find that funny name Bo you L O UK e at Dr Jill health calm, or something like pygna genal, or NATO kinase, these are all long funny names but they tend to either a phase of dilate the system or chew up that little thing that can be produced with inflammation, and both of those things can help with blood flow to the brain to the circulatory system in the, and the periphery, so that you don't have as much symptoms. Like I said this is quite a complex disease, and when what I'm doing with patients is looking at all the different cytokine pathways and then identifying where the deficits lie, and then targeting specific drugs or supplements for those pathways. In general, those are hopefully a few helpful things. Like I said, say hello if you missed my intro say hello tell me where you're from, throw your questions here I am live and I'm going to get through as many questions as I can. Jenna hopefully they answered at least some of your questions on long COVID. Hi Kimberly from Virginia hi Peggy. Thank you for your kindness and for thanking me. I love being here with you and that is means a lot. I would like to continue would love to know how to tackle this long COVID. And so the, the gut you're asking specifically about the gut, the gut, I would say spore probiotics my favorite is spore probiotic with IG, and or the gut immune powder those two things can be really helpful. And then an anti inflammatory diet low sugar, all those things are really key. Now one thing we're seeing post COVID is CD8 part of the immune system, which you don't need to know what that is except that it fights viruses and cancer can be a little bit in a weekend by emceeing more and more patients that have reactivation of Epstein bar or shingles or other viruses. So one of the things you may want to differentiate is is this just long COVID sequelae of that virus and infection itself, or is it actually a new virus or old virus more likely that you had that's being reactivated so Epstein bar can present in a lot of different ways but one of the ways that I see it in clinical practice is chronic fatigue, malaise filling lymph nodes in the next swelling off and on feeling symptoms like a low grade temperature off and on that's kind of a viral kind of syndrome. And that would be very common with Epstein bar reactivation and especially the fatigue, sometimes intermittent sore throat that just comes and goes and never turns into anything. One of the things you're experiencing, some of my favorite things for that would be olive leaf, monolourine L lysine, and sometimes even prescription antivirals shingles is really common as well I've seen a lot of young people with shingles, due to post COVID, because that weakens that arm that kind of suppresses the viruses like chickenpox or varicella. So that's another thing you can do is to support the immune system. A lot of this has to do with the immune system and different arms of the means to becoming weakened, so the immune systems can pop up, and I've even seen patients with chronic Lyme that are stable that tend to flare up after they get the infection. So hopefully, Jenna that helps you. Let me know if you have more questions keep typing them in I'm just going to keep going down Mary Ann hello. How much emphasis do you place on the low mold diet. Well Mary and great question because you know I'm one of the mold experts and I love to talk about that. What I would say with the low mold diet is it's really critical if you are in a moldy environment or if you're in a mold related illness, because in those states that mold has weakened your immune system, and if you need a lot of sugar or carbs, you're feeding either the candida or fungus that's in your system, or if you, some people actually have mold colonization in the sinuses in the gut in the body in the lungs. And either of those things, the sugar in the diet will really really make that hard to get rid of. So if you really are in a moldy situation you're overcoming mold related illness I highly recommend the low mold diet. If you just stopping in please say hello, throw your questions here I'm going to stay here as long as I can to answer all of them that I can get through. And I'll be sure and put some links here so you can always check back save this link and I'll try to put links in for products for them low mold guide. You can always check on Jill Carney and calm and search low mold diet and it's all on there for free on the website to. So thanks for asking that Mary Ann if you have another question just type it right in. Hi from Wisconsin Hello I grew up in Illinois and not too far from Wisconsin and I know that that state very well, Alexis. If you have lime Bart and mold and then treat mold and feel better do you need to treat the infections. What a great question. So I had talked about this all the time I feel like if we were to go testing people on the street, walking fine no major complaints for Lyme disease, we would probably find a lot of people had Lyme had been infected maybe as a child or a tick bite or spider bite with Bartonella or a cat scratch. Or one of those things that can carry the vectors of these kinds of tick porn illnesses, and they're fine. And the reason for that is their immune system is strong and robust and healthy and actually keeping those infections at bay. That's what we're supposed to do. But the problem lies when that immune system gets weak, and then these old infections kind of like I was just talking with long coven and viruses, they pop back up and start to cause symptoms and problems. So that's not uncommon, and that's when people actually complain of chronic Lyme. So back to your question, you have Bartonella you have Lyme you have mold you've been treating the mold, your immune systems probably getting back online. There's a large number of people that don't really need to be aggressively treating those infections, if they feel better after they get through the mold treatment. The reason for that is the mold really suppresses the immune system. There's one mycotoxin produced by many different molds called mycophenolic acid that mycotoxin is actually used as a drug called cell set that's given to people after organ transplants which means it suppresses their immune system. And that means you can reactivate or detect the organ that shows you how strong of an immune suppressant it is. And that means that if you have other infections which we all do we many of us have a chicken box or a steam bar or other things. They can reactivate or become more active in a weakened state, which is often the case when you're in a mold or water damage building. And in Alexis if you feel better after the treatment with the mold, it's unlikely that you need a lot of aggressive further treatment for those infections and that's a bonus because not everybody gets to say that but that is a wonderful thing. Diego hello with your advice and my naturopathic doctor got better to the point I feel 90% better. Oh, I love that. It makes me so happy you know there's nothing that I get more joy from if that information that I write or put out there, or do on my podcast helps you, and you don't even have to see me or you work with another doctor I get so excited about that, because it's hard obviously to see everybody who has needs and there's probably not enough doctors to go around but I love the fact that you're sharing that you are getting better, but your question is naturopathic doctor wants to take a genova GI effect stool and an organic acid to ensure there's nothing left in my system. However, the preparation says the patient should not take any prebiotics probiotics between. You feel really good on those things. So you're wondering. This is a great question so you're asking real specifically about repeating a stool test, and the instructions say go off all the things that are making you feel better right. So there's this conundrum there because a lot of people feel really really good when they take their supplements they take their digested enzymes. I do if I'm doing the test with my patients I do it one or two ways. Obviously if you follow the instructions you go off those things, you get a better picture of your baseline. And really poorly when they go off of their supplements, I will often test with them on the supplements up to just a day or two prior, and I'll just take into account when I'm looking at the test results that they were on their hcl and their enzymes. And we know that pancreatic elastase which is a stool enzyme that basically tells us if our pancreas is working or not. It will show up in the stool higher low regardless that if you're taking digestive enzymes so that won't interfere at all with the test, but 10 hcl may change the amount of protein that's in your stool. So you might not see if you take hcl, and you're breaking on the protein you may not see the high protein in the stool that you would see if you went off the hcl. But again as a good doctor I'm sure your naturopath could interpret if you really feel like you need to stay on those things. I often tell patients to go and stay on, I will interpret it and just know that you were on either herbs or whatever so talk to your naturopath a doctor about that, but I would say that there's ways to review it and keep you on those things that are helping you feel better. Or instead of stopping for two weeks, you can stop for just a few days. So hopefully that helps Diego and thank you for your kind words is that you're feeling better. We're looking for insight on aromatase inhibitors and good alternatives to reduce estrogen. Oh, this is a great it's Judy and it looks like. Hi, Judy and from Minnesota. So what a great question aromatase inhibitors so let's talk a little bit about aromatase and what happens. So when we take testosterone and converted to estrogen with both which both men and women do. Aromatase there's an enzyme that actually pulls the testosterone makes estrogen out of it. We all do that women, more than men because we have more estrogen, but often when you're in a moldy environment or you're in a toxic environment. You can have that aromatase up regulated so men will often have a lower testosterone lower libido increased body fat central weight gain more sluggish, more melancholy or more emotional all kinds of symptoms from too much estrogen and men. And it's not a good thing for men to have too much estrogen for women it might cause endometriosis, fibroids, breast, fibrocystic breast, tenderness, heavy periods, painful periods, PMS, all of that stuff can be from excess estrogen. So you're asking about options for aromatase inhibitors. One thing we frequently use is anastasol which is also called aromidex it's a breast cancer drug because it blocks aromatase, but we use that in both men and women when men are taking testosterone I'll often put them on aromatase inhibitor so that they keep their testosterone as testosterone and they don't convert it to too much estrogen, and I'll check in the blood work and make sure that their level of estradiol and the blood is less than 50 for men. For women you can do the same thing, but often you take it a little bit longer than that. I'm looking I know I'm here on zoom but it looks like I might be off the live video I'm just going to keep talking and hopefully this will come back on. And so basically for aromatase inhibitors naturally saw Palmetto is a great option usually 320 up to 640 milligrams per day can be useful. Pigeon and pumpkin seeds are also good aromatase inhibitors and those can be helpful as well. And so I said I don't know if my video is still on Facebook if you guys can see me say hello, and if not, I'm going to keep going, because I am see here. I'm seeing at least my video here we'll see what happens. Okay, so. Hi everyone always so informative hello from Portugal hi Anna Taylor hello, and what shower filter do you recommend I recommend clearly filters is my favorite but I believe that they. Oh good thank you guys for letting me know you'd see me I can't see it here but as long as it's still going I'm hearing answering questions and I can see your feet so you can comment you can say hello you can throw in your questions I'll try to keep getting to them. Keep throwing in those questions and I'll keep going. So let's see we've got me see where I was here and questions. Taylor you with your shower filters so shower filters clearly filtered used to make a great shower filter, I think they stop production for a little while but they still make great filters like for the house in the fridge and all of that water bottle filters. I'll share real quick there's a lot of things I've already mentioned that I'll come back and share I don't want to take the time now, but my products we love page has a ton of great resources because it's all the things that I like to use myself. And I'm going to share that link in the chat so you guys can browse through those things it's everything from PMF mats to shower filters to water filters to air filters so you'll see that link come up here shortly in the feed, and that gives you some ideas. Okay, let's see where are we here. Okay, hi Peggy multiple HLA genes and they're factoring multi toxin. Okay, so he's asking about some of the genetics with mold. Now we do know that there's about a quarter of people that are more susceptible to mold related illness and what that means is they're innate immune system has more trouble than in clearing toxins. So instead of the toxins like being tagged and escorted out of the body, they recycle around and around and around and they start to cause collateral damage and these inflammatory pathways. And that's about one in four people have that genetics. Now Dr shoemaker did some research and said specific HLA types were a higher risk even call them the dreaded genes. So let's look at that research deeper. It's not as valid as we thought it was. So, while we still clearly know that there are types that have more trouble clearing. I would, I would not go to say there's a striation of super high risk people who absolutely can't clear toxins because people know that all different genetics can get well. And that's the good news for you. The genetics matter, but they mattered less than we used to think. So thank you, Peggy for your question hi and best diet for SIBO. So my favorite diet for SIBO is the SCD specific carbohydrate diet combined with the FODMAP diet. And if you want to download the copy that I use it's at the Alison C becker's website called SIBO info.com. You can get the SIBO SCD combined diet. It's a really effective diet not only for Crohn's or colitis or inflammatory bowel disease, but also for SIBO. But the bottom line for SIBO is a low FODMAP diet is the best. Now there's some caveats because if you go in a low FODMAP diet you feel better, but then you reintroduce the FODMAP foods you feel worse. I don't love for people to be in a low FODMAP diet indefinitely, because what you're doing is you're starving the bacteria those guys that are on your own, but you're also starving the good guys. So what I like to do is get people treated with either herbs or medications, put them on a low FODMAP diet for up to six months and then try to add those foods back in because you want to feed the good guys. Hi Linda since COVID having a rhythm is looking for direction this is sadly very, very common. It has to do with blood thickness it has to do with hyper coagulation it has to do with the heart itself and inflammation. It's not a one size easy answer here and I'm sorry I can't give you like it just one thing but what I would say I mentioned earlier you can re listen to this. Things that are natural anticoagulants like garlic, fish oil can be helpful. One of my favorites pycnogenal is a natural vasodilator. I'm going to try to put the link in for that because that's such a big favorite of mine, pycnogenal. You can find that at drjilhealth.com. If I'd spell it right. I'm going to just put, thanks for your patience here I'm going to try to pull that up so that I can share it with you guys. I'll put these links in later too. But pycnogenal and then beluc, natokinase, seropeptase are all things that chew up fibrin. So if you have an increased risk of clotting, and even though this is complex you need to find a doctor who could actually do your coagulation panels, but you can find things all in the blood in regular labs things like antithrombin, fibrin, protein C, protein S, MTHFR etc there's a whole list. If you haven't seen my what's the fuss about fibrin it's a podcast I did with Dr. Ann Corson. I don't know the number but if you go to my YouTube channel and just look up Ann Corson under Dr. Ann Corson and watch that and I list all the different things and talks about the panels that she does. So you want to learn more about that Linda that might be helpful. For now, I would work on stabilizing the heart with nutrients like taurine and CoQ 10 and magnesium. And then I would think about the blood thickness if there's issues there and maybe try some fish oil or garlic. And again under the direction of your own physician. I've been doing two times your cleanses for 15 years five ozone treatments and a sweat pod oh my goodness you're doing amazing things. My body sweat was itchy and dark brown and the worst what happened on your face like third degree burns. What the heck is going on. Okay, so you did some amazing things that were detoxifying your system, but what's very very common is that we go too fast so here's a really simple concept that's very important to understand when you're working on detox or working with your doctor. We are mobilizing toxins, which means we're taking them out of the tissues getting them into the bloodstream, getting them prepared to be eliminated through the stool, through the urine through the sweat, the lungs through the breath right. So mobilization is one part of this excretion is the other that's your pathways like lymphatics or sweat or stool or urine or breath, all the ways that we eliminate toxins from the body. So if you can think about this as a seesaw or something that needs to be in balance. If you mobilize too quickly so you do sauna every day 45 minutes at 140 degrees for seven days a week. You're probably going to mobilize more quickly than you can excrete. And when that happens you get toxic you feel sick, you get rashes you don't do well sometimes people get muscle activation. So this is a real important concept because if you're mobilizing too quickly for excretion, you need to slow down the mobilization. Some people can only tolerate, you know, 10 minutes in a sauna at 100 or 110 degrees. And I always go slowly enough so that people can mobilize in the same rate they're excreting, because if we go too quickly, you can either activate your math cells or get rashes or get side effects or the sweat that you're talking about sounds like it was kind of toxins coming out of your body. If you can't get rid of it quick enough, you're mobilizing too quickly. Things that mobilize could be glutathione, NAC, sauna, all these good things, but if you go too quick, and you can excrete it, you get sick and you don't feel well. So real important lesson for all of us to learn. I remember way back when I got mold exposure I took tons of charcoal, loads of charcoal, I got rashes hives from head to toe for like two months, and I learned my lesson the hard way that I was mobilizing too quickly. So thank you for sharing that, Jeanette, and I would just slow down and work with your doctor on how fast you can detox and work on excretion. Ways that you can work on excretion would be dry brushing, hot cold saunas or sorry, hot and cold therapy like hydrotherapy, epsom salt baths. You could do castor oil packs or you can do coffee enemas, which may sound crazy, but we have imported some amazing, easy to use coffee enema kits from Switzerland. So be sure and check that out because that's a really easy way to enhance detoxification. Most people feel really, really good when they do that. So those are just a few things. Okay, where are we here. Let's see, we talked about the sweat and the detox. Sean, hi Sean, thanks for discussing EBV reactivation. Very important. How do you accurately diagnose. Okay, this is easy. So you want to ask your doctor for four labs. They're Epstein bar titers you want VCA IGG, you want early antigen, you want nuclear antigen, and you want IGM. IGM is the acute reactant that would be there if you first had FG bar, most people are going to be negative because they had it years ago when they were 12 or 19 or 25. The other three VCA IGG early antigen and nuclear antigen, if all three of those are positive, especially the early antigen, it is likely that you have reactivation. You have history and symptoms that are consistent with reactivation and then you have all of those labs positive on titers, especially high levels like four times the normal. Then it's very likely you have reactivation of Epstein bar. And like I said earlier, you can treat that with olive leaf monolourin L icing. In fact, there's a product that I love and I'm going to try to find that for you right now. It's called humic monolourin complex. I'm finding it right now so I can stick this in the chat this would be a great thing that would help you have reactivation of Epstein bar humic monolourin complex I just threw that right in the chat for you guys. Okay, so where are we a rhythm is we talked about detox we talked about Epstein bar reactivation. Thank you Diego for your kind words, Alexis so fun it really is I love this. LDN been a game changer. Okay, LDN Lotus naltrexone so Lotus naltrexone is a very low dose of an anti opioid drug that was used years ago for heroin addicts sounds crazy doesn't it. But what it does that very low doses is that poke seeming system blocks opioid production just for a short period of time and your body's very smart and so it increases natural endorphins and opioids so usually people feel better they have less pain, less inflammation and it decreases so not everybody responds but those who do it's really good for auto immunity and inflammation and it's also a way for people who post COVID to prevent those auto immune reactions that can lead to long code so I think it's a game changer. You're asking Alexis do you go backwards if you go off I have not found that to be the case, but it also is something people typically stay on fairly long term. Thanks for letting me know I'm still here hi Marcy hi Eileen. Hi Judy Ellen and your question is let's resolve which isn't that one's an aromatics inhibitor as well after lumpectomy and radiation stage one breast cancer. I know that's best left to your doctor I don't want to comment or tell them differently but aromatics inhibitors are a really good way I breast cancer survivor as well. 20 years, I think most of you know that but if you didn't I, you know, 25 years old had aggressive breast cancer. So I know a lot about hormones and aromatics inhibitors. I would recommend you're on that it probably is a good idea and more safe to prevent recurrence. Thanks for the heart Eileen. Okay. Any more questions and then we will sign off I see a few more coming in. Kimberly mono for 20 years, still testing high on antibodies that I GM negative. Yeah so what happens is that I GM will only go positive the first time you have a steam bar. It will never ever ever go positive again. So even now if you get reactivation of steam bar that I GM will go positive and then go negative and it won't ever go positive again so unless you have that first case of steam bar you're not going to see that you are going to see is the VCA IGG, the early antigen and the nuclear antigen and they're all going to be pretty high and that's how you know along with symptoms. So, so that's the answer to your question Kimberly you could have a doctor test those tests and see if you're high. Sometimes people are just, you know, treat like I put on this chat the humic model or complex that's a great thing to take that could be helpful as well. So let's see what might be going on if mycotoxin test comes back with no mold off the top of my head. Oh, I have some ideas on this. So, my first experience probably 10 years ago with mycotoxin testing that's urinary testing to look at excretion of mycotoxins in my patients. And I had two patients that I was sure had moldy homes, I was just positive. Both of them tested completely negative and I was so confused. I thought what in the world. I know they have mold, but they're testing negative. What I learned was some people we talked about mobilization and excretion. That's a toxin kind of pathway of how we get things out of our body. Some people are so toxic that their pathways are completely blocked. So if you don't pre treat them with sauna or glutathione or they're just so sick. They may not secrete any toxins in the urine and that just means they're really sick and they can excrete. That could be one answer. The other answer could be there really is no more mycotoxin exposure that's possible. But what I learned from these two patients in the early days was that a lot of people are so sick they're not excreting in the urine. This is one reason why in some of the tests that we do we actually pre treat with either sauna or glutathione to actually push those toxins out and so that we can measure them in the urine. Hello Mark Andre from Montreal question multiple trauma in childhood and severe psychological stressors that really weakened your body and ended up with systemic lupus at 24. Wow. You always felt your body was in an attack and I was under the influence of infections after digging into functional medicine. You ended up doing DNA PCR testing and found four different kinds of Candida. Wow. You had a lot of fungus which is real common with auto immunity, other microbial dyspiosis, then you developed mass selectivation and deficiencies for C3 and C4 which are related to lupus as well. Do you think that all funguses in my gut even when they died and use binders have been have could have released a huge amount of mycotoxins and trigger the MCAS. I had a great, just a synopsis of your history Mark Andre great job because that gives me all the clues that I need to hopefully give you some information. So first of all auto immunity in general is attack of self and you mentioned psychological trauma stressors. You found in many, many people auto immune is attack of self right and it's a physiological thing where your body does molecular mimicry mistakes, your self tissue for something that is trying to fight like for example, you get a bacterial infection you get yeast in the gut, and your body tries to fight that and create antibodies, but then those antibodies actually cross react to maybe your thyroid, or maybe your joints and rheumatoid arthritis or maybe your neurons and multiple sclerosis. And this immune system that's trying to protect you, but it gets confused and starts to attack your own tissues and that leads to auto immunity. So there's real physiological causes and I will get to that I promise, but what I wanted to say Mark is bless your heart and thanks for sharing the stresses because we all have them, we're all human. And what I found in my own journey with auto immunity is there's often there's pieces that are trauma from childhood or lack of love for ourselves are things that are really important in the healing. It's not the cause it's not the only thing contributing, but dealing with those childhood patterns and traumas, and even just loving ourselves and appreciating ourselves and not having self hatred or self loathing. And that parallels the self attack of the auto immune can be really powerful and helping you to heal. But the other question you had is about all these fungal species fungus creates all kinds of toxic metabolites. And those can really wreak havoc on the immune system. In fact, I think hidden fungal infections are some of the biggest culprits to Crohn's and colitis and MS and many, many chronic immune issues. And your question was, could that fungus have triggered mass selectivation. Yes, 100% absolutely mold and fungus are huge causes and contributing factors to mass selectivation. Hopefully answer your question. If you want more details just shoot me a another message Mark. John, thank you for taking the time. You are welcome. And hello, we had your, you had your belongings tested at a moldy rental apartment highly contaminated so you left everything. First of all, sorry that is so hard and so common where people have to leave their belongings behind. You moved out in February because you got sick, moved into a brand new building. And finally you found high levels of penicillin and aspergillus, otherwise past inspection and air test, saying there's no mold from the landlord, you're pregnant. Wondering if you should leave. This is so hard. I just so understand you guys that when you have mold and you're trying to figure out a safe place to live. So there's a couple options, not everybody can leave right there's either no rentals or your home, you can't sell your home or it's too expensive. So what you can do, you're pregnant so I would not recommend aggressive detox when you're pregnant. It's just not safe because you're detoxifying, and that can go to the baby. Typically, again, you want to check with your OB guy and you do not take my word for this but chlorella I feel like could be safe and a pregnant or nursing woman I would not do many other binders I would not do glutathione. What you can also do is dilution effect with the air so open your windows get air filters whatever you can do there. And it sounds like you got rid of belongings and there might be something like you could fog with a dry fog in the products we love link on the link that I shared here in the chat. You can find Haven fog it's called bio balance Haven fog dry fog that's what I use in my office and home, and you can actually buy the system and do it yourself. For you being pregnant and for your family I would stay out for eight hours and have someone else do the fogging, but it's a citrus safe solution so the very, very botanical kind of safe solution. And then you come back in you have so basically you fog with dry fog, and then you have a cleaner or someone that is not sensitive clean every horizontal surface, it's called small particulate clean. And then you can come back in you might feel a lot better even if they're still an ongoing mold source that at least buys you time. It doesn't fix the source, but if you can't move. I would, if you're not pregnant I would do gentle detox and binders if you're pregnant, I would open up, get air air filtration, get fresh air in the windows use air filters like Austin air is my favorite. And then you could fog, go out of the place fog it clean it and then come back in and you'll probably feel better. And you can find the fog that I like to use in my products, we love page which is there's a link here in the chat. Thanks for your question hi Darla, I'm just going to do a couple more questions that we've got lots coming in suggestions please and how to get rid of heavy metals from the body sauna every day and yet showing high levels of multiple types of heavy metals. Well one thing Darla that's important for if you have mold or toxins or chemicals or metals. When you start to detox your excreting more that's a good thing. So if you do a test for urinary mycotoxins or for urinary heavy metals, and you're in the detox, I would actually expect your levels to rise because you're excreting those out of the body. So you do have to just take those tests with a grain of salt and kind of know where you're out in the process, because you want to move it out of your body and if you're testing the urine, you're typically testing that excretion. So that may not be a bad thing. Some of the best binders for metals would be zeolite and silica, and those are in products like quick silver, the binder cooks quick silver binder, and then also my new favorite from research nutritionals I'll put links in for these two these two are kind of a one to punch. They are mycopole and toxic pole. So I'm going to pull those up real quick and show you those in links, mycopole and toxic pole. And again I would not recommend this pregnant or nursing but if you are not pregnant or nursing, you could use these together and they're really good for both toxins and mold, and they can be used at the same time. So I'll put this in the chat. Okay, let's see. Darla that was you. Hi, Judy and again thank you so much for the nod towards Dana let's just oh yes I think that's very wise, even though there's side effects. And thank you for letting me share my story. And yes I'll be back on Susie Larson. And I probably in April and May. Hi misty. Oh, thank you for coming on my purple hair yeah guys you know I decided this year to go a little bit more bright and cheery bring some joy into life and so I've got little highlights purple and yellow. I'm sorry purple and pink. So thank you for commenting on that I've been having fun with it you might see next time it be read who knows I've been changing it every month or two. Thanks for commenting I've been having fun. Okay I'm going to do one more question and then we'll sign off for today and I'll be back again soon. Misty palpitations. Yes, this is something you definitely don't want to ignore it's super common though with either infections or toxins. I need some heart stabilizing nutrients I mentioned that before. Coen's MQ 10 100 to 200 per day PQQ 10 to 20 per day, touring 500 twice a day, Carnotine L Carnotine 500 twice a day, and magnesium at least 250 twice a day those are kind of some of the core heart nutrients, but you really want to find out what's causing those palpitations it's sadly common and sadly common either during cove it or post cove it as well. Thank you all for joining me today I had so much fun the time always flies by love your questions thanks for your kind words and encouragement. Stop in anytime at Jill carnion.com I have new articles every week. Any products that you need you can go to Dr Jill health.com. I didn't mention but all the mold questions if you haven't seen the mold detox box go to mold detox box.com. It is an all in one you can see it behind me on the fireplace here Dr Jill this is a basically 30 minute video. Everything you need to detox mold. What I did was obviously I can see a number of patients but I can't see everyone who needs help and so many people are suffering from molds of you, or someone you love is suffering. This basically gives you the core instructions and everything you need to do basic detox from mold, and granted it's great if you have a doctor that's helping you but if you need to get started that's a great way to start it's you can read and learn more information there and again you can kind of start that. If you're sensitive started a quarter or half dose go very slowly, because like I said before if you mobilize too quickly and you can excrete, you get stuck and you don't feel good. I hope you all have a beautiful Easter weekend. Thank you so much for your time and for joining me today, and I will see you all again soon.