 Thank you for joining us for the district nine town hall just a few housekeeping Things the the restrooms are down the hall are out this door into the left if anybody needs them We do have some handouts on the back Table including a list of all the bond projects that we're going to be talking about tonight Tonight, we're going to be talking about two different subjects the proposed projects for the bond election and the proposed budget for 2022 So we'll have staff come up and do a presentation and then open it up for questions We are recording this so that anyone who wasn't able to join us tonight would be able to watch it online so if the Person taking the question could repeat it so that we can hear it for the for the video and now I'm going to invite council member Beck up here to welcome everybody Thank you all so much for coming out tonight. I really appreciate it And thank you for taking the time to be engaged and learn about what we're doing here in your community and providing that valuable input Because you know best what you need and so I appreciate you coming out and taking the opportunity to learn more and ask questions And if there's anything that my office can ever do to assist you in any issues if you're Your water main breaks and it floods your backyard Catherine And feel free to always reach out and email us at district nine at forward texas dot gov And we will make sure that we do everything we can to to answer your questions And be as responsive as we can because it is really my goal to make sure that this district works for you And that the city works for you And so with that I will hand it over to who's first Steve cook is first Good evening evening everybody. I'm Steve cook. I work in the property management department We do facility we construct them when we maintain them We do the fleet in the city and we do real estate transactions for the city So I have a cursory involvement with a lot of these with these bond things the facilities out of it mostly So I will try to talk as fast as I can there's a lot of there's a lot of slides There's a lot of information will try to make this not be just a total drudgery You have to listen to this accent for half an hour. I apologize for that and I'm from Amarillo. So it's a factory install I can't help it So I'll try to go and I'll try to keep on my notes so we can go as quick as we can okay, so So when we talk talking about these goals, obviously we we want to maintain what we have and that's not that's not like street maintenance That's like picking up in the Kurt Street and putting it back down Okay, when we talk talking about maintaining stuff that stuff luckful talk about in the botanic gardens Replacing a building or something like that. Okay, so maintain what we have and make keep it beautiful and keep it nice That's what we're talking about and these growth areas We obviously have a ton of growth going on for worth right now We all know that and so we want to maintain the services that we can there when when possible And we have active transportation corridors where we have a lot of pedestrians and buses and cars going up and down there So we want to keep everybody safe and the bicycle so that's that's another goal We try to hit when we go on us and allow for partnership our opportunities. That's a big one for this year I'll explain why in a minute, but we have some major partnership things that we need to talk about that are really really big for the city And great for the city. So we'll talk about that as we go And I was also equity at the end of the very top one equities a new a new one for us And we'll talk about that while we did that and there's some some places in here where we'll talk about it show it So it's a big deal for us this year, too Are so one of our strategies that we go with is this collect capital delivery We're gonna spend about 30 million bucks Before we even get started on any of the transportation and things we try to do some some some initial alignments with some of the roadways That we're working on and we try to get some idea what the what the utility may be out there We don't want to say we're gonna go build a brandy road and we go out there We find out there's a duct for four phone lines this this wide that we have to replace and cross five times and not Playing for it. So we spend a little bit of that money to get ahead of that We also do that to help us understand what the right away is gonna be we buy the right away in my division And so oftentimes we can we can move an alignment around so we don't have to Buy somebody's whole entire front yard and possibly just buy the little sliver of okay So there's a lot of that we do at the beginning so we know what's going on and then right down there a program highlights If you look at that leverage that two hundred and thirteen million dollars That's one of the opportunities I was talking about for partnerships when The county is gonna have a bond election this year, too And it's gonna be about four hundred million bucks and reason why we're doing the timing we're doing now and calling for this election when we're trying to call for is we're trying to talk with them about Throwing in money with us so that we can take them dollars that we're trying to propose and add it to their dollars and haven't even a bigger program So two hundred and thirteen million dollars or what we're talking about today is gonna be Money that we're asking for others to come come in with us Okay, another one big deal for the equity piece of it for about two hundred and thirty million dollars of this falls within the districts that are Majority minority and super majority minority areas and so I'll have some maps and things that will show once you can see How that lines up as we go through this. Okay. Oh This is a another slide that's I thought was taken out of mind But that's okay the bond the genius that's gonna come up here and talk about the budget stuff can probably explain this way Better than I can but essentially how this works is we have a certain amount that we spend on debt in the city It's just it's this much and so when we do a new when we do a new bond We bar up to that level and then we start paying it off And then we do another bond and we fire up to that level and then we start paying it off So that's when we say there's no tax increase That's what we mean because we're not gonna go over that part because if we went over that part We'd have to identify funding, but we don't do that That's how we can say that there's no there's no extra money This is pretty much a daily and operational thing that we do every day of our lives So we started the data collection when we start talking about doing these projects We've been doing this for a year and a half just for bonds, but we do this every single day We have master plans and strategic goals that we all have to that we've been initiated and then we have to follow as a department So everybody in every department the city manager makes us do all those things So this is something we do all the time when we we follow the development trends and where they're going Obviously we up went no way up north. There's tons of development, right? So that's not a hard trend to follow So we can we we do that and we talk to counsel and we talk to all these people We look at service demands and all the things that we're trying to do with our boards and commissions And we go to neighborhood meetings and we hear from you guys So this is how we've developed this project going on for the last 18 months, okay? And here's one of the things that we do we have the departments and the department we're talking about fire library Police whomever we ask them to submit their greatest needs so they submit to us To the people who do in the bond planning They're their projects of greatest need and there's not anything that's really was given to us There wasn't something that's a really an honest to goodness need and some of the projects We're doing in 2022 were 18 needs that we couldn't get to but we put them on the 22 So it's a big deal and I just don't want you to think that it's some oh, this would be nice to have these are things Like roads sidewalk projects and a community center in a place where a community center that there's 50 years old, right? So this is all big-time stuff So that we have a committee that that goes to and we all try to prioritize it because we're resource constrained We can't just build everything that we want to because of we talked about that, you know keeping within that I'm a certain amount of money, right? And so we have to we have to make Decide what our priorities are so we have objectives that we go through and do that So we take that through the city manager's office Then we go through your council representatives and we go to public meetings with guys like you all to tell us What you think and what's going on, right? So this is kind of something that we just continuously do especially and we concentrate on it when we're going to do something like a bond program These are the these are some of the objectives we were talking about and how we prior to prioritize all these projects We talked about that to we being a new criterion in the racing culture task force that we got some recommendations about three years ago and one of them was to be more effective in terms of Using your bond dollars to go and other go into the super majority minority areas and the majority minority areas And so we've taken all these things that we've done and we've applied that that filter to what we're doing so that we make sure that That's what's going on. Okay, so you'll see that as we go by when you start talking about improving Existing infrastructure think about an intersection So there may be a great roadway that's doing great But you get to the intersection and every intersections backed up So when we want to improve existing infrastructure what we're talking about doing is making that that intersection work properly and like federal and state requirements That's ADA. So we need to do ADA stuff on sidewalks and roads and buildings Okay, so that's how that's we go through all these things and we kind of prioritize which projects get go up to the top. Okay So that's the super majority minority areas and the majority minority areas and in the city And so when I throw up a map here in a minute that talks about transportation stuff You're gonna throw this up afterwards and so you'll see how it applies to that. Okay So every time I talk about a process or a program will have some of these things so that you can see it And so you understand what how to apply us to this new this new thing that we're trying to accomplish. Okay So the initial needs that we got from everybody when they show it and we got from all the departments We're not gonna spend a lot of time on the slide I just want you to look at that giant number. It was three one point three billion dollars Was the initial needed needs needs that we got back from all departments so that we could start analyzing it Okay, we're not gonna do one point three billion because we'd have to go up on taxes to do it. So we have to We have to win on what down and so we wouldn't win into it down to five hundred million dollars. Okay And so 64% of that is streets and transportation 17% parks so essentially 81% of what we're proposing that we do is is transportation and parks related for the for this project Okay, and just so you know anybody that left your email With Michelle in the back she'll email you all these present this presentation so you can have it You can study it and look at it. Okay, you don't have to kill yourself trying to see it because I move kind of fast Sometimes so anyway, just so you know, you can get it you can get a copy of it Also, we have a new category at the very bottom there open space We haven't never done that before and that's a new thing for the city We have these corridors and these places that are these pristine things That have some kind of cool feature about them when we don't want somebody to just come in here Take all the trees out and build whatever on it. We want to protect it So there's another thing that we're doing that that's kind of anything for this year, too So this is the streets, this is mostly the transportation stuff as we talked about it You can see on the over on the left those little key areas when I talked about new improvements And we'll talk about I'll have a list of a lot of the stuff so you can look at it We're just trying to show you how it spreads out across the city So a lot of the arterial works the blue lines arterial work You can see that's way up north right that makes sense because that's where we need to get people moving of course And you talk about the neighborhood streets It's over in the older neighborhoods right because we don't need to build neighborhood streets We're the developers have built all brand new streets, but we do when they built these streets in the 1940s So if you just kind of look at that you can see that that's kind of the spread in the balancing act that we Try to take when we're trying to do all these things and that's the same exact information spread across the The majority minority areas as we talked about earlier just so you can kind of see how that that plays out across the city And this is the listing and this is the part where I'll talk about the the Cool partnership part opportunities that we're going to try to seek this year. So we have 11 arterials We have bridge rehabilitation. We have stuff for traffic signal sidewalks all of those things You can read them out right there on the side But you get down to bottom of it essentially what we're suggesting for this bond is 320 million dollars For transportation needs across the city right so the cool part about that is if you look right next to that We got 200 million dollars that we're requesting from the bond program from Tarrant County Now I haven't approved that yet, but that's the request that we've made and so we're trying to leverage those funds from them And we're also using impact fees and other things almost another fee with a lower 50 million bucks to add to it So ultimately our 320 million dollar ask or proposed Transportation turns into a 570 million dollar program is what we're trying to do and that's why the timing is so important for us to be here now so that when Tarrant County does their bond we can ask for their money to all right So that's what this all bulls down to ultimately and that when we talked about our goals being Trans our being partnership opportunities. This is what we're talking about right here. Okay? This is obviously the arterials we talked about if you look over on the far left-hand side That's the council district where they belong seven is the one far north and northwest where it's so congested You can see there's an awful lot of those are going on and out of 11 of them There's six or six of them are in council district seven and there are the runs are spread out over the place. So I Know that this I'm going kind of fast But there's people here from transportation and public works that can answer any of your questions We get done with this if you have specific questions about how far it's going or where it's going to be You're all those kinds of things. There's people here to answer those questions. Okay another thing is these Corridor supporting transit So if you look at these these are very established corridors throughout the city, okay the top one on Lancaster Well, what that is is when I talked earlier about we have these places where we have tons of cars and tons of people Walking people on bikes. We have people trying to catch a bus bus stops and all those things These are things we're trying to put together in those areas so that we can keep them as safe as we possibly can So we're trying to find a local match with 10 million bucks for Lancaster So if we found like somebody like Trinity Metro who had another 10 million maybe we can make that into a $20 million program We hadn't done that yet but those are the kind of things we're trying to do in these particular areas because there is so much congestion with Pedestrians and things like that. So we want to make those safer and Then we talked about intersection improvements when I showed you that one map It had a little red crosses on it. These are the intersection improvements and of course those are Scattered out all over the place But a lot of those are in the central and southern parts of this town where it's a lot older So we may have some corridors that are working pretty well except for those intersections So what we're trying to do is have a way to improve those intersections that will improve the whole thing So that's part of what we're doing with so this is obviously not way up north like the arterials But it's all over the rest of the city where we've kind of established there are fairs and collectors and things of that nature And then this is a really cool one. There's a you can see a ton of marks all over the place What we have we function with here at the city we asked the council about three years ago We could go to what we call a zero a vision zero Process or program and what that means is we don't want to have any more deaths on our infrastructure Elements within this city, right? And so that was a it was a big deal council said of course We want to do that too so in order to do that We've got to throw some money at some of these places so that we can make them safer So a lot of what we're talking about it may be as simple as striping it may be an enhanced crosswalk It may be a bump out to make people slow down with just striping it may be curbs to do that It doesn't there's a there's a lot of its technology for for pedestrians and the technology for track Signal timing so that we can keep people safe, right? So there's a ton of different things that this really involves But it a little bit of money will go a long way on them So that's why there's so much of it that's marked Okay, and one of the key elements about the equity piece when people ask me why you doing that Well, if you look down at that one 79% of our high injury network fall within or are adjacent to The super majority minority areas 100% of the pedestrian deaths 47 of them and two of the two of the bicycle deaths were in a super majority minority areas We've got it like that not be the case anymore as vision zero is Attacking that that's the whole point of it just to get rid of those kinds of things keep those from happening. Okay So that's a that's the important part about this that that while that's one of the equity reasons Well, we're doing what we're doing. Okay, and this are the top 10 stinkers These are the places where we've had the most Injuries and deaths everything that has a star beside it That that would indicate that there's been a fatality in that area So these are the top 10 ones and so with those are the ones where we throw a lot of money and a lot of effort Into to make sure that we can keep that from happening any longer, right? So this is a big deal and this is one of the ones we're excited about we and one of the ones It means the most to us because we really can see the effect on this real quick So there's five million dollars just to address these these these kinds of things That's enough about transportation. We'll start talking about parks and recreation. Okay So this obviously is a map of the whole city and these are those dots and pictures and things just kind of Show you where all the places are that we're trying to do different things for the parks department And there's people here from the parks department. There's a couple here So whatever I do that I messed this up and don't answer your can through your question They're gonna be here to be able to give you the specifics and tell you everything you'd ever want to know about it Okay, just so you know So that's where how that lays out on the super majority minority areas and the majority minority areas So that's how that kind of how that pans out just so you know These are the proposed projects. I would again it's 87 million dollars the bottom line down there 87 million bucks That's a big program for parks. I think one of the last two that we did only got like 14 million bucks So this is a big deal for parks. It's a big year for park, which is great Obviously, but I'd call your attention to these middles There again We're trying to we're trying to get some partnership dollars from other people to spend on our project So we can leverage the money that we're spending with other people's money and make it even better So instead of us getting a 13.5 million dollar project, we end up with a 23.3 million dollar project And that's in just one part But it's not quite as significant as we're getting for the transportation dollars, but it's still something we're trying to do We're still trying to leverage those dollars anywhere we can so we can make this program as good as we can, right? So we'll start talking about the specific park was just like I did for this for the for the streets The Botanic Gardens is 4.6 million dollar proposal for that one You know, you all know that that's a jewel of the city We love that place and we want to keep it that way Some of the facilities there pretty rough shape some of the infrastructure There's some pretty rough shape it was put in 50 60 years ago in some instances So it obviously needs to be if we want that placed if we want to have a botanic garden We want it to be beautiful. We got we got a commit to doing something with it And so that's what we're proposing to do with that Heritage Park and and Patek Park is something that I don't know if anybody's familiar with Heritage Park probably not it's been closed down for years It's a beautiful park right there at the front door of the city right just just north of the young of the courthouse It's incredible it was designed by some famous architect and The problem was it had all this lighting and drainage and water features and then none of them ever worked together very well So it's kind of sitting there doing nothing now So we're proposing we spend some money on that to make it where it actually functions and have that beautiful park back Second of all is right in front of that courthouse. We have a big beautiful park to be like the welcome It's the it's the front door of the city. We want to be beautiful and welcome welcoming to everybody It comes up that way and so that's what that's all about The Fort Worth water gardens again is the same thing That place was obviously constructed a very very long time ago and there's a lot of piping and a lot of pumping and a lot of Wiring and different things Then aren't functioning the way that you would expect it to if you take your aunt and your uncle and your cousin Come to visit Fort Worth and they go out there and you look at the water gardens and there's no water in it What's the point right and so if we're gonna have the water gardens and we're gonna treat it like something We love and let's let's do so and make it work and make it function and be something like you'd expect for it to be again This is the places where we're gonna do some drainage and erosion control in our parks Oftentimes in parks. We have water features. We have ponds. We have creeks We have Miranda meandering little river things and drainage areas Honestly in those a lot of times when we buy a park, it's in the flooded areas So the developers get the high dry land and then we get the leftover stuff that's got the drainage in it It makes it for to be real pretty But oftentimes we didn't have the money to address these of erosion Erosion problems the way that we wanted to and so this is what we're proposing to do We solve a bunch of erosion problems. It keeps us keeps everybody safe in a park We want that water to be where that water is supposed to be we don't want it washing out trails We don't want it washing out bridges. We want to be where we want it to be. We also want to be a good neighbor We don't want to have our water running off on our adjacent neighbors And we don't want to have it Shooting through our our park going 100 miles an hour and going ruining something somebody's life downstream, right? So a big part of this is to make that all function right look right and Be something again that you're proud of when you go to your parks Metta brick golf course and sycamore park improvements. I'm gonna start with sycamore park sycamore park That used to be a golf course. We've worked with the We worked with the the neighborhood we engaged with them not unlike what we're doing here and said hey This is a golf course. It's nobody's using anymore It's not getting a lot of attention in terms of golf and then nobody else was using it for anything else either because it was a Golf course, right? We asked them and engaged the neighborhoods and said hey would you like for this to be a park instead of a golf course We're not getting any revenue out of it much anyway. So what do you think they all thought that was a great idea? So about three years ago. That's what we did I'm ready to park Unfortunately, we've never had the money to make it a park It still looks like a golf course and it functions like a golf course since you when you walk walk through it Well, I'm walking around on a golf course What this money would do is make it a park a real park places a park and things to do and different kinds of Facilities and trails that aren't just like a cart trail that they go all over the place and do all kinds of neat things Right, so sick of more park what that amounts to is changing on old golf course that nobody was using to a real park And it's really kind of cool because it's obviously as a golf course. It's huge. It's kind of neat Meadowbrook golf course was kind of a different thing that was actually getting used people were we're getting revenue from that It's now it's getting run down and it's getting worn out We're kind of getting it love to death, but people were actually using it So it was kind of a it's one of those things we say well if we're kind of like the water garden Botanic garden and all those other things we're talking about if we're gonna have it and we're gonna make it We're gonna say we got a golf course. Well, let's treat it right and do something nice with it And what had everybody think about what we did for Rock Creek? Is it Rock Creek Rockwood Rockwood golf course about six years ago parks identified some funding It was a cool. It's a really cool Golf course, but it was getting love to death. It was worn out So they spent a bunch of money and made that golf course pretty awesome and we saw a big spike in use So in the 18 bond election we decided we would try to put a new clubhouse out there, too The one that they had looked like a no pizza hut. It was awful. It was the worst thing you've ever seen So we went ahead and said let's let's do that in 18 bond elections So we did it passed. Thank you all for voting for that and it passed And we just opened it up in April and we've seen another spike in use Rockwood has changed the right Rockwood has changed from a loved to death Not unlike Meadowbrook to this really cool place that people you would be proud of Everybody in the city would be proud of that place the clubhouse is great And golf course is great So we want to kind of start that with Meadowbrook and see what happens with it Let's let's put some money into it and make it better and see what happens with it, too Kind of the same concept Park we were stealing parks. It's a long talk. I told you they got a lot of money this year We got to we got two pools playing for this year. We got one for the stop six Neighborhood what what is really cool about that if you any of you know the cavill projects the housing projects that were there built in the 40s That all got torn down. It's not it's no longer there. We've taken we were those families have been placed in other places So we have empty land there the Fort Worth housing a half worth housing authority owns it They're gonna donate the land to us to us for us to build a community center out there Which we I'll talk about in a minute. That's another part of the deal and put a pull out there So we're gonna put a community center where there's no projects used to be and we're gonna put a pull out there, too For the kids to learn how to swim and do things and so that's kind of a cool thing for stop six. They don't have that now So it's kind of neat Forced park pool replacement. It's the same Same kind of pool that we're talking about putting there This is actually the same kind of pool we put in marine if anybody's familiar with marine park pool We put one there and if anybody's familiar with the McDonald what's it called McDonald by MCA? That was a that was a dual thing between us and the ymc. We put one a marine creek our marine park McDonald We have one and we're proposing the same the same thing for these two places, too Just so you know force park is one it was built in 1921. It was refurbished in about 67. It's very old So yeah, it's time for something new so those are those pools So echo echo Lake Park was a county park the county had this park for years I don't know how long it had it, but they had it forever. It really didn't look like a park It certainly didn't look like a city park It had a couple of backstops and a trash can and a bench here and there it was pretty rough So what we got it about three years ago from the from the county and we wanted to make it This is the first time we've had a chance so we put in the bond election so we can make it a park make it Like a city park and make it a real park. So we're talking about making that from Nothing against the county, but that's not what the county does. They're not great at doing things with parks But we have a bunch that does that so we want to make that into a real part Gateway Park is off. It's kind of like the same philosophy. We've talked about a metal brook and botanic and the water gardens Gateway Gateway Park is an incredible facility And if we keep keep doing new things and making it better, it'll even be more more of an amazing place So what we want to do is engage with the with the neighborhoods and everybody around the city because everybody in the city Uses gateway and say hey, what do you think? What would what would you like to see out there? And so we want to we want to make it better and cool But we want to give me the kind of things that you all are really interested in having out there So that's why we put it could have these things We don't know for sure yet But we want to we want to put some money into that place and continue to make it is as cool as it is now or even cooler Neighborhood parking improvements in a lot of areas. We have we have a hunk of land that we're gonna we bought So it can be a park, but we haven't done anything with it in terms of having a parking lot or having a picnic table We're having a shelter or having a playground or anything else. They're just kind of a wide spot So what these these dollars would do is turn all those all those hunks of land into parks real parks Like you'd recognize and see and you'd want to go play in okay The Fort Worth zoo part of our part of our deals We own we own the land and the buildings out there at the zoo they have we have a lease agreement with them Okay, and so when they want to do improvements when they wanting and make things put in a new whatever put in a new facility a new Building a new cage or something any utilities that need to go out there We're on the hook because it's our land to make sure they get the utilities part of our lease to We get the utilities to them so that they can do that So they have plans to do some improvements make some improvements There's artillery requirements for that to occur So this is for us to do those to do those utility improvements so that they can make those make those improvements Trail gaps and actions. We had a lot of success on the 18 program doing the same thing We took the same amount of money if I'm not mistaken for the 18 program And we took a bunch of really cool segments that we have with the trails that go from River Legacy Park all the way To Lake Denbrook and we were able to connect a bunch of them We want to do the same thing again and keep bringing that all together so that we have one interconnected really cool trail that goes from City Limit Line to City Limit Line and this will help us get us there won't do it completely But it'll certainly help us get us there. So and like I said the parks guys are here They can tell you can give you some more, you know, particularly about that if you want them Open space. So is anybody here from open space? I'll have to try to answer those questions I hate to hate to tell you that but Open space is a new program. And so it's what it's done is we talked about it a little bit earlier We're taking these these places Broadcast Hills one. It's a beautiful pristine place. It's up on a big giant hill and nobody was it was kind of her cell There wasn't a lot of interest, but what were they gonna do with it? And we didn't know so we went and got it and we bought it and we're gonna hold on to it And we're not making it into park. We're not doing anything with it We're making it open space that we don't know what we're gonna do with it in the future But what we know is we want to have some control over what does happen in that future So that's what we've done and that's what that's what open space is all about is giving us places where if there's something like that We can get a hold of it and make sure whatever happens is something like all of us can be proud of okay So facility improvements in the last 14 and 18 we my my department, which is where we're the ones who build stuff We've got about a hundred million bucks and we built 10 or 11 facilities and this one we only get we only get six facilities So it's a little different. We we were able to catch up on the last two So we're not doing as many this time right so this is this is what this is kind of what happens When you start catching up a little bit. So this is really this is a kind of a good news story, honestly But that's how it lays out across the city And that's how it lays out across the majority minority areas. So right now We'll talk about all of these it's pretty much a 77 million dollar project program for us to build a bunch of new facilities And someone we're growth area somewhere replacements. We'll show you So the library system this is far northwest part of town out in council district 7 In that particular area within three miles of the place where we've identified 3,900 people moved there this year not this decade this year We've had 3,900 people move into that area in the last five years 30,000 people have moved into that area. Okay, this place is exploding It's just absolutely blowing up And so they don't have a library and they need one the closest one is Golden Triangle Which is on the other side of 35 and it takes about 20 minutes to get there So this is obviously a as a as we are growing we're gonna have services for these people in these areas that grow So this is how we identified that and this is where we're going Fire safety improvements. We have two replacements this year We've been building new ones across different parts of the city because of places where we're growing north and south and all around We've been building new ones, but in this one for this particular prop bond program We're just doing replacements fire station 37 was a temporary station that was built in 1998 I'll enforce reinforce temporary supposed to be three to five years It's 23 years later and they're still in a portable building. It's pretty ridiculous And so we need to get that replaced and place it with a real fire station just like we build for everything else, okay? So that's that's enough explanation for that one fire station number 16 is I don't can't believe boulevard It was built 55 years ago It's the bay doors on it are so low We have to lower the suspension on the fire trucks to get in and out the doors There's no co-ed facilities. We have a lot of female firemen now. There's no co-ed facilities Obviously 24-7 use 55 years. You can imagine what it what it what it's kind of gone through in the last several years It's it's showing its age and we want to replace it. We don't need it We're not gonna do thing special, but just take that one away and put anyone there. Okay, so that's a replacement Community center so we talked about in this top six area putting that pool So it's the same. This is a this is a community center that we go right there beside it So this is a community center in the old Cavill projects area. Those have all been torn down So we're getting some the getting the land donated and we're gonna put a big community center there It's a huge 28,000 square foot community center. It's just like the one at Como not just like it But a lot like the one we just put in Como in the last month election. Thank you again So we're able to do that for Como. It's a beautiful place and this will be a beautiful place, too It's gonna have a place for social services. It's gonna have a librarian It's gonna be really an incredible facility plus with that pool You just take a neighborhood that can you imagine having a projects there and that's gone and having a community center and a pool there Now it's just it's pretty cool fire station community center is a replacement as well Somebody in the 80s thought it was a great idea to take an old fire station It was built in 1937 or so and stick a gym on the back of it when the fire department couldn't use it anymore And so it's been there for about 40 years It's showing a little bit of its age, too. It never has function really like a community center Thank goodness for the community loves it and they've used it like crazy, but it's really It's kind of functionally obsolete It's pretty much completely functionally obsolete because of when it was constructed it was kind of ill-conceived honestly So what this would do is we'd leave the fire station facade and anything at this historical We leave it there make keep it make it beautiful and build a community center around it So that's what we're proposing to do for this one neighborhood loves that community center But we're gonna make them a better one and make them one that they can actually it's actually functional and does what we want to do You can have real programming in there for seniors and youth and everything else, okay? So because what we have to kind of doesn't work that way and then police improvements This is the last facility. I promise y'all get tired y'all getting glazed over so This is the last one. So if you'll think about where Meacham airport is on the western edge of Meacham airport there's a There's a big vacant piece of land. We've already bought that we own it and what we're proposing to do is put a police station out There for Northwest patrol. They're currently in two places They're in a they're in a leased facility out by Meacham airport cost a hundred fifty thousand dollars a year And then they're also on a building that was built in 55 It's out there at North Side Drive. It's talk about obsolete I mean it's a 24-hour facility that should it should have been torn down 25 years ago So anyway, what we're doing talking about doing here is putting a real honest-to-goodness facility out there Northwest patrol We built this North patrol right up here With the with with money about about when I got here about 2016 and we were building one down south We just built that that's from the 18-bond election. We're building that right now. It's currently under construction so we've had a lot of a lot of really good success and and Getting for police and facilities getting them out of leases and some other things like that so that we can have Do things that make a little more sense, okay? And then that's it for my part of it except we'll have a few questions So you find yourself in the public meeting phase. That's where you're at right now. That's what we're doing Well, we've been validating what we've been hearing during our meetings from other people and saying, you know Getting taking your input and doing seeing seeing what all that looks like and what that means to us We're gonna finalize these meetings in October The council has to call the election in January February in order to have an election in May So the Charing County is gonna have their election in November. Hopefully by the time they do that We'll know the answer to how much they're gonna let us Leverage with them and so we'll have that answer so that we'll know what's going on So then the other obviously the bond election would be in May of of this of next year And with that I can answer a couple of questions, but if you have specifics We might be better till we get to the very end And so you want to do the bond you want to come talk to us first So We can let miss Lorraine's gonna come talk to you Okay, before I pull the presentation up. I want to thank Lorraine for doing tonight's budget presentation She found out at 3 o'clock that she would be doing it because of a family emergency with another staff member and So she's been frantically looking over the slide so I I Really appreciate her stepping in and doing this tonight because you didn't want me to do the budget So the first thing we want to talk about is property values and when we talk about property values We're talking about the appraised value, which is equivalent to the market value of your home And then we're talking about net taxable value. So if you own a home and you get a homeowner's exemption That that is your net tax net taxable value And as you can see we've been growing significantly Over the last eight years as long as I've been at the city in 2007. We've been growing And I'll point out on the net taxable value because we're gonna see these numbers come up on the next slide is On net taxable you'll see in FY 21. Our net taxable value was 79 billion and We go up to 87 in 22 So I point that out so you can see what this looks like and how we get from 21 to 22 and how those values We arrive at those so we started 21 with 79 billion dollars we had what we call change in existing value of 5.3 percent or 4.2 billion dollars that means basically that overall average Existing property in the city of Fort Worth increased five point three percent average And then we also added three point two billion dollars in new construction Or four point one percent which gets us to the eighty seven billion dollars current taxable value in the city so those healthy values that we have have allowed us to Decrease our recommended tax rate from seventy four and three-quarter cents to seventy three point Two five cents or we dropped it a penny and a half So when we talk about the property tax rate From a statewide level you're talking about two components. You've got O&M your operations and maintenance And you have INS or debt interest in thinking and so We split our rates into that and that's what we report on if you go onto our website and you look at some of our Calculations you're gonna see those two rates split out so We lowered our operations and maintenance rate and our debt rate is currently fourteen point seven five cents per $100 of value The city further separates out the operations and maintenance into pure operations and Capital or pay as you go And so we set aside a portion of our tax rate to pay for all the infrastructure needs That throughout the city which include part maintenance transportation Things such as that this chart Gives you some historical Context for those tax rates and you'll see that you know over the last ten years or so We've been able to lower our tax rate significantly from eighty five and a half cents down to our current recommendation of seventy three cents We add the bottom portion here to show that You know, we're maintaining Our our commitment to pay go which is pay as you go capital and to debt And it just tells you the percentage of the whole so that's and How those rates allocate out over the years? So taking some of those different factors you can see that we have a taxable value of 87 billion dollars And when you apply that tax rate It's going to net us revenue of 596 million dollars So and you can see all those percentages are a little different So while value is up nine point four percent The ability to lower our tax rate has allowed us to instead of having a nine point four percent increase overall at seven percent And then this is how when those various rates applied to value What dollars are going to each component so and then it's a year over year change So you can see that this year for the O&M rate Which was the 52 cents? That's going to generate four hundred twenty one million dollars of revenue Which is the twenty six million dollar increase over last year. So that's kind of how to look at this chart Pego we kept the rate the same at six and a half cents And that's generating four point four million dollars additional for the Pego the cat that pay as you go capital investment We've also been able to set aside Basically the equivalent of a quarter of a cent for economic development to for cash incentives Economic incentives as we go forward And that a lot of that was in our economic master plan that they came out with not too long ago And then debt Increased even though we lower the rate slightly. It's fourteen and three-quarter cents It's generating about six point four million dollars additional revenue So this slide is to kind of give you an idea of how the various changes in Taxes impact you so we're going to make an assumption that house value is two hundred thousand dollars And if you'll recall we had a five point three percent increase in existing value So now based on that the new value of your house is two hundred and ten thousand So and then we were able to lower the rate a Penny and a half and so you can see the revenue that's generated on each one of those so in FY 21 it generated 1495 in city taxes and in 22 it generates fifteen hundred forty three dollars in city taxes So it's a slight change for the five and a half for the five point three percent But with lowering the tax rate if you were to take the numbers and just apply the five point three It would it would be a obviously a higher number And if you want to see how that pans out for the various components There's your overall fifteen hundred dollars So twelve hundred dollars of your taxes to the city are going to operation maintenance 311 to debt and Then of the M&O it goes a thousand operations and hundred thirty seven to the capital infrastructure So now we're going to switch to the recommended budget And so the total operating budget is one point eight billion dollars one point nine and Of that forty percent is the general fund which houses Your basic operations your administrative functions safety Then we have the enterprise funds which make up 33% those are our water Stormwater solid waste environmental Parking I'm sure I missed someone's We have special revenue funds such as the CCPD or the culture and tourism fund Internal service funds are our fleet maintenance. There are risk management funds So those type of funds actually debt service funds and then our fiduciary funds which are trust funds set up for some of our A health benefits our general fund revenues as you can see are Eighty percent are from property tax and sales tax Everything else makes up that remaining 20 percent And so this is just another way to look at this with a comparison from last year and the increases or decreases to each of those Categories of revenue year over year and then expenditures for the general fund. This is by department These are all the departments that make up the general fund This is in descending order by dollar amount and you can see the comparison from their budget in 21 to what they have in 22 What's being recommended? Some of the big drivers you'll see for economic development We have some contractual obligations for economic incentives that impacted that plus the two million dollars. We talked about earlier for Economic development throughout the city non-departmental has some increases related to because for the new City Hall That will be in we've set aside some dollars for that and then here's here's some of the other main drivers overall We have a pension contribution of 3.6 million. That's additional We have fire wage collective bargaining, which is 4.9 million new facilities 5.1 million so that's new facilities that are opening and operating for a full year or for party of the year We have police and wage meet and confer Benefits 7.2 million pay for performance 7.4 million and Again, the economic and development incentives is eleven point six million Just real quickly the enterprise funds six hundred thirty one million dollars water, which is a regional Facility is The majority along with solid waste stormwater our municipal airports and parking With regard to enterprise funds, there were no rate retail water or sewer rate increase increases No residential solid waste collection fee increases No stormwater fee increases this year and no parking fee increases this year. So those are all good things Special revenue funds are a hundred and seventy three million dollars You can see that this is CCPD makes up the majority of that which is funded through a quarter cent of the sales tax Culture and tourism is following up with and the remainder of these special revenue funds that we work with and So the CIP we've talked about that a little bit We develop an annual five-year plan with current investment and then What we think our future needs are going to be So we have Six plans we have aviation public events general Fund which includes all the general fund departments solid waste stormwater water all have capital plans Our investment this year It's four hundred and forty two million Or for twenty two And then some of the things that we're paying for with the pay-as-you-go funding this year that six and a half cents is Street maintenance traffic system maintenance neighborhood improvement strategies Park maintenance bridge maintenance sidewalks and street lighting in the majority minority areas And then we've recently gotten some updated numbers on population and this is a Per capita Our new population for 2020 is 918,000 and it's just a comparison of growth Of our tax revenue and how that looks so next steps So these town hall meetings are going to continue. There's several more this week. I think maybe there may be one next week on September 14th, we'll be having a public hearing on the budget and a public hearing on the tax rate With anticipated adoption of both of those things on September 21st And then here's the dates of the meetings and again You will all get a copy of this if you're interested in attending as far as I'm going and I will tell you if you Go to the budget and if you go to the city's website go to the budget page scroll down There's a whole section on truth and taxation if you have questions about it You can email us at taxes Taxi s at Fort Worth, Texas gov and So you can ask any questions you want there are sites for the appraisal districts and also for the Websites where you can go put in your address and it'll show you all your tax rates from all the taxing entities that impact you But there's a lot of information on that page about budgets. There are PowerPoint presentations, there's all kinds of documentation that you might find useful and interesting so Thank You Lorraine. I'm now councilmember Beck's gonna come up here and field questions just a reminder if you'd like copies of the presentations be sure you fill out the Sign-in sheet and provide your email Okay, so who's got questions about what they heard tonight? Yes, sir About the infrastructure and roadway expenses Thank you Sir, joseph is your question you wanted to know what the distinction between the two is Okay Maybe debt and operations And Is that your question because this is this is pay rates, this isn't an allocation of infrastructure versus If if we could answer that from the microphone just so the folks Appreciate that So the question was I mean you can't see this from here, but it was it was the split of the as Richard said thank you Richard The way that the city splits Operation money because the state if you look at again if you look at tax rates in the way we calculate them You're going to see on anything from the state. You're gonna see debt and O&M, right? And so the city further Distinguishes between our O&M rate because we want citizens to know that we're committing to you know infrastructure Pay as you go keeping maintaining the current infrastructure that we have so what we do is we take our O&M rate and we further divide it between operations and Capital also called pay as you go Investment in infrastructure it all those things are sort of interchangeable So that's what they do with the O&M portion is they they take a portion to put it on operations and they take a piece of it and commit it to Pay as you go infrastructure Annually does that help make sense? Who's got charge in the alleys Neighborhood services Is there any sources of information that I could find out First Black by block And then how is the block designated? How much coordination this neighborhood services do with code as far as dumping or regular basis In other words, is there any attempt to build a dossier? or a history Of alleys black block by block As far as the location How often this is done About six months ago, I was told this is back when Street maintenance had it and I was told it was this regular nebulous committee It was made up from mostly police and some code decided the person's own cat and alec maintenance Who who decides that now? Who decides who gets alley maintenance? Yeah, and the frequency What is the criteria for coming back and doing it again? as far as cleaning up How much is it goes beyond just killing vegetation? So to answer your illegal dumping question That's an initiative that you're going to see citywide. There's been a An emphasis placed on abating and stopping illegal dumping not just in our alleyways, but um uncertain thoroughfares and across the city and abandoned Lots and whatnot. So that is an issue that we've identified and that we're working on to to help remedy And to to go on and just finish answering your questions so that we can get on to other folks You also have any time that you have an alleyway question Please again, feel free to reach out and contact the office and we'll get out there neighborhood services works really closely with code To identify issues in areas that need assistance Whether it be mowing maintenance or illegal dumping illegal dumping Cleanup and then they do keep track of where they go and they also keep track of how much They've picked up in the form of refuse when they when they go do one of those cleanups And so if you have a question about a specific alley or block, we'd be happy to get that info to you I Is this in the work heights area Okay, so we've actually looked into that and those gates and barriers were part of a grant program that the city received several years ago And um, we are looking to repair and replace them It's just not part of our regular maintenance because they were part of that grant program when they were installed so any other questions Hollis When It's very good to call the water safety at that and that facility there's not much room to spread out The water is shallow and it's very hard. It's almost impossible to water safety here important Drowning in the league a leading cause of accidental death among children at your Second only after car accidents 65 children drowned in Texas in 2021 The park pool is the very last pool that is officially children A lot of Drowning prevention of water safety The plan to replace cars park pool with an interactive nature pool will lead to more drowning deaths of our children When the parks department calls these their plan Enhanced a product center that's an ephemism. That is And so just to repeat Hollis's comment there's some concerns about the The redesign of forest park pool not being sufficient for water safety specifically swim lessons For our residents and just to touch on that on the 16th at 630. We will be having a A meeting a community meeting at the pool to go over what the the current state of the pool why it needs to be redone and then to Solicit that type of community feedback. We have not and I just want to reiterate this we have not There has been no actual design of the new facility done yet So there is still opportunity for community input on what that looks like and what what it needs I've worked really closely with richard To to help make sure that we have all of the information that we need to give the community the pool that they want And they have gone back and they have asked consultants to give us dollar amounts on what it would look like What it would cost us to add additional lap lanes or to add additional depth to that pool right now that pool is Four feet six inches in the lap lane and it would in the proposed plan It's four four foot now. So we've asked them to go back It the the proposed plan is four feet the current Depth of the pool is four feet six inches and the in the eight lap lanes. That's what's painted on the side of the pool so Well in the middle it gets deeper deeper because there's a diving well, so Do you want to give them the specs on the pool because we just went over that so And again, I don't want to bog down too much in the pool on this one because we're having a meeting next week Hello, good evening. I'm scott pan with the park and rec department In regards to forest park pool and the depths it does begin at four and a half at the at the start of the lap lanes And it does go to over five feet just over five feet in the middle because that's where the area drain is for the pool Yes So you will have the opportunity to provide that kind of input On the 16th and I know you might not be there because it's it's a special day for us, but Registered and we'll make sure that that we're doing what we can to work with our community partners and I've reached out to community partners family foundations our local Groups that utilize the pool to make sure that everyone that needs to be there is there and that we have all of voices in the room so that we aren't taking away a facility, but I just would like to remind everybody that That pool is getting half a million dollars more than the pool in stop six And this is the first bond election in which we have had an equity lens placed on how we spend And so this is what the race and culture task force looks like at your front door It means that we are providing the same level of service across the city And so I think that is something that's very important to keep in mind when we're when we're talking about this bond package Next question Yes, ma'am 630 630 Yes, 630 at four spark pool Next question In undocumented immigrants here in the city of Fort Worth as of 2007 there's about 475,000 of them in the area They got to be about 3.1 billion in combined state and local taxes 24 24 billion in federal taxes and as far as like budget or anything Within the city, there's really no acknowledgement that this community exists Or any benefits despite the fact that they push you to make so much money in taxes to the city So I guess my question is What can we do to be more inclusive within the budget but just in the city as a whole? Sure, and so I'd be interested to hear what just to repeat our question It's uh, what is the city doing in our budget to recognize the economic impact that immigrants play to our community And what what have we done to to recognize that? I think that we have often lacked in our Appreciation of our immigrant community not just in the city but across the state. I'd be interested to hear From a city budget perspective what types of programs or what type of specific help You're looking for other than investment in the communities That we know that those populations There's a concentration of them living and and I can tell you from for this district when you look at south of barry, which is a pretty Good dividing line. That's where you see a large portion of our neighborhood street improvements and our A massive park redevelopment for eggo lake. That's going to really Provide some leisure and safety for that community And so I'd be interested just maybe offline we can talk about what What those types of programs look like but one thing that i'm really proud of the city of fort worth for doing is You don't have to have an id to get your vaccine and we know that that is a consistent barrier to entry for our immigrant community and so that was mitigated by By our city and so those are the types of steps that I think we're making that progress to make sure that we're more inclusive in our policy decisions And I've been trying to ask around and then getting these answers as whether People who are undocumented can get that help or not The printing before I've asked the answers always vary But like I said, they contribute billions of dollars to the economy So they should be able to get rent assistance and utility assistance as well I tried to Just manage the portal myself from the forward city page and it's in english only so if anybody that You might not even be an immigrant was born here Is Okay, so michelle heard you that it's only in english and we can work to get it in spanish It's um, it's an app. It's an application that we're linked to so we'll have to reach out and see what our options are But I know we translate the material into Spanish, but I'm not sure about the portal Sure, and I will um, I'll get an answer for you specifically on those funds as to who can use them You're welcome next question Yes, ma'am So Two and then one percent of water one percent of transportation and two percent of water Transportation and two percent of water. Yeah Next question No, that was last meeting. Thanks, bob. Mm-hmm. Yeah We're talking about the bond in the budget if you'd like to ask a question. Yeah, do you have a comment or complaint? Yeah Sal is no longer on the council Not at least two and I do appreciate that they're having two meetings. That's great the bond thing is that The money going for the golf courses this is the main problem I have the bottom one thing and there's several golf courses make one thing I'd like to see it in a box by itself Last time they keep putting it below the fame So it kind of it's like fork in there In you get the playground equipment in a one foot golf course clubhouse and the playground equipment or you get nothing You know that was six half million dollars for a clubhouse 750 000 per playground equipment I asked could be flipping, you know, six million playground seven but nevertheless If it can be done I like all the golf courses Whatever those golf courses you put in a box It's kind of misleading on the city budget when they talk about the budget and their category They have golf courses listed as self-contained Well, if they're self-contained that means they're making money They should be putting money into our system which would be good But they should be able to pay for their own maintenance and upkeep and all that But instead I put they're asking for a large amounts of money for you know, I remember about seven million dollars So Yeah, so to answer your question. So bob's Comment and question was about the money spent on golf courses for the city Sure And so the golf is an enterprise fund and right now the the city is Subsidizing that fund but there is an exit plan for that so that That fund becomes self-sustaining and the city no longer has to subsidize that enterprise fund So that is happening now to maintain and operate those golf courses but It won't it won't happen forever But we can't put them in one box all we go to vote So you both know that on the profit are they got the wrong thing You know how you see this category that category So we can't put golf courses in one one box. So yes or no And it's going to go with something else, right? It would probably part and be part of the the parks. Yeah, so either we give it the whole group are Yes, ma'am Is this about the pool? Now it's back Yes, it's back. Well, just general my general question is what is more important? For a society to have in Sweden we have from zero To we die to get more we have people from all ethnic groups to get the pool We have people with no arms no legs We have stroke victims. We have neighbors to the industry heart attack victims that were certain people What is more important? For our general building Depression and anxiety that having a stroke you will not die if you can't hit the golf ball You will not die I think there are golfers that would probably disagree with that statement Well, I think to you I think to you it would be swimming and so I appreciate your your voice in the room Of course tonight's troops Well, we're committed to making sure that there is access to to aquatics facilities across the the city That's why we we built one in marine So in the 2008 and i'm richard could give you all if you want a full history of what happened to our aquatics You know from 2008 when we had to start shutting them down to now Richard is our resident historian he can he can give you all of the details But but we are prioritizing aquatics facilities And that's why we're putting one in stop six that hasn't had one before and so I I hear you Forest park pool is not going away I hear what hollis said that the depth of the pool needs to be looked at for adequate swim lessons And so we'll get there, but there will be there will be a pool there. No one's taking that away We only have so much land so unfortunately that's just kind of We have to pull the pool out before we can can put one back in Sure, okay next question. Yes Go back to your sidewalks about redoing the sidewalks I live on mistletoe boulevard Older part of neighborhood our sidewalks need to be redone They came up with the money last year To put them in across the street where there were no sidewalks mine in front of my house needs to be done So what are you going to do in that area? Forest park boulevard hard place where the trees have buckled up the sidewalks and stuff like that and when you You know walk on them You could if you can't see you might trip and all that is there any fund or anything to fix the sidewalks on this side of town Yes However, I want to go back to the bond package and how it was created With the equity lens we've got folks in this district that do not have curbs and gutters And so I appreciate that your sidewalks are very important And i'm going to have someone come out and look because it could be a matter of safety and adda in which we could find The the the mechanism to get those sidewalks repaired but again, this bond package is a little different because there was a A real emphasis placed on underserved Communities and communities that needed the most and when it comes to a safety issue if you don't have curbs and gutters Sidewalks are our second area to them Next question none So every year neighborhood services picks a community That they give about three million dollars to there's a little variance between the years But they go in and they work with the neighborhood to determine what their needs are And so rosemont recently got one In district nine and they they used it for some roadway some street and sidewalk curb improvements and wi-fi improvements Some safety improvements and so that's what that is each each year a new Neighborhood is given those funds. It's part of our investment in our communities. Yes One more question Tell me this bond package you're wanting the residents home owners to vote on this to pay for it What about these big corporations that are around here? like acne brick Some of the big buildings over at mecham boulevard bell helicopters that come in here They come in on tax breaks for like five years to bring people in and then as soon as that's up They're gone page abjack was one of the companies that did that 20 years ago So what are you doing to these big corporations that are in here to help pay for some of these bond packages? Like the up rail road the bnsf railroad the kcs So part of our economic development package is we do offer incentives and tax breaks to to corporations to bring jobs We we do that as a as a mechanism for growth and to ensure that we don't just have Jobs in this community, but we have well-paying jobs We do structure those in a way that they are over a period of time depending on on The vehicle that we've used to give that incentive our abatement And we go back and we make sure that they are doing what they promised before Those incentives continue. So whether it was the amount of income that their employees would be paid the number of Women our minority owned businesses that they will contract with the number of jobs that they'll bring We go back on an annual basis and make sure that they're keeping their promise to us Because we made a promise to them Yes, chiles This is one of the one of the small players But one of the supporters of change came in there They got a tax break And they paid back We had not hired a number of people that they were making money every day on the money they'd say By, you know, the interest investments or whatever so way still amounted to a tax free or a A interest free loan to the city for work until that time they got caught So that only goes that system when it works so far Yes, sir, just a general question What I heard was over the last eight years our revenue is pretty nearly doubled What it was eight years ago So where's the money going? Why do we need a bond issue all? If that's a lot of extra dollars can be high tax tax and it helps Why do we need one at all? Because we've increased in population size and we've increased the size of the city And so we have not doubled but there's a lot There's a lot that we've done or that we as you can see when steve went through in 2014 or 2018 when we had to defer Defer bonds and so no one likes to pay taxes But everyone likes city services And so when you say that you want the best sidewalks that you can have or you don't want congestion Or you want to make sure your trash is picked up on a daily basis It cost money to to run a city it cost money to build and operate pools So, um, you know, that's that's why we're coming out We're asking you the residents of fort worth to help us invest in making sure that this is the best community To live in and that we are providing the support and the services to our residents That are reflective of the 12th largest city in the nation So I was pregnant David, do you know if we've doubled our our revenue in the past eight years is what So In this year, we've actually dropped the tax rate because the assessed value has gone up and so that's Definitely But we're bringing that we've slowly brought down the tax rate over the years as that assessed value has gone up And we've tried to do better and do more with less as a city We've able we've been able to chip away at that that overall tax rate To get it to a much more manageable system Any other questions The previous property It's 23 is the move-in is 2023 the move-in date So at the end of 2023 the new feature city hall has to be done with construction Essentially, especially for the council chamber and things of that nature. So that's when we'll start doing the move-in You may be in the middle of the three by the time that's all said and done That's kind of what we're aiming for right now. It's subject to change obviously when whatever happens when we dig into that Really, I guess so into 23 is kind of what we think chamber for sure would be done by then And then what about the old property? So the we'll maintain the old property of the city has contracted with a Consultant that is going in and looking at the space that we will have in future city hall to make sure that We're in a very deliberate way Designing what that's going to look like so we can be more efficient and more effective And we can make the user experience easier when you come to city hall and you have a question Or you need to go to different departments and there's a lot of time and effort being spin into that and also What we will do with that with Old current with current city hall And it will be it will continue to be a a city facility that that will use To to I believe we're going to put police in there isn't there discussion of the central Central division the one that's at least currently in central one over on jones is also at least and we're talking about putting them in there So get people out of these Old city hall we can't sell We can't sell because it's got a reverse off the D It goes back to the federal government. So we're going to do something with that building for sure Mr. Beck has said we're trying to Do something smart What do we do is something And there's been a lot of I'm really I'm just really proud of the work that Dana has done to be so deliberate about new city hall and discussions about What our chambers were going to look like and how we make sure it's accessible to everybody So I'm really excited about 2023 when when we get in there. So any other questions holless Do with that So it's been my understanding and I wasn't here when that Facility was closed but It's my understanding that it was closed at the same time the water gardens were closed after the tragic accident that we had because it was a safety there were some consafety concerns about the water water pools and work was done to to Remedy some of that in the water gardens, but it was not done at that that location and so this will Um Give those safety measures in place so that we don't have another another water garden's tragedy at that particular location and so Any other questions All right, I really appreciate all of you coming out tonight I've got some action items and I'll be getting back to some of y'all and have a great evening