 The case of the access to the workday site in Romania, a case of Beijing fortresses. Yes, exactly. So the colleagues, my topic, I think it's actual, even if we are in 20% when the question of access, it sounds some thing like a strange issue. But I will demonstrate to my presentation that it's still actual in some specific cases or in some specific landscape situations. So Romania, among other countries, of course, are part of the UNESCO convention. And since 1990, and between 1990 and today, Romania succeeded to inscribe eight sites, two natural and six culture. And now the government and Institute of Cultural Heritage updated the tentative list. Should be 19, but it's still 15 because they didn't inform the World Heritage Center to update the information. So we are still waiting for updating. So this is the table about the World Heritage Sites of Romania inscribed years and also the criteria. And among these sites, we have Beijing Fortress of Oreshti Mountains. It's part of the Pennsylvania area in the middle of Romania. And we have, of course, the famous landscape, but also the famous antique heritage, which is unique. And that's why probably it was inscribed in 1990 and 1999 as part of the World Heritage List. So between or since 1990, Romania did some steps to implement, not just to sign the convention, but also to implement convention. And they changed some laws. They approved some rules, but still today, a new updated regulation or the list of regulation concerning the World Heritage Sites. It's under discussion already for the last two years. Now we have a draft under discussion between the experts at the Ministry of Culture, but also at the Commission of the Monuments in Romania. And we hope, until the end of this year, we will have the new updated decision of the Government of Romania concerning the management of the World Heritage Sites from Romania, including the structure of the management, including the duties and many other aspects of the actions which should be taken by the public administration at the center and the local level. Probably as part of these debates will be discussed and also approve the issues concerning the access and the infrastructure of the World Heritage Sites from Romania. And one of the big issue, it's concerned the decision for press because all of them are placed in the mountain area, which is a difficult landscape. It's unique, it's original of the forest, but to have the access, it's still complicated in some of them. Even if we could Google or we could search on the internet and to find some information concerning the sites, some information concerning the history of the sites and also the access to them. So you could have the map of the distribution of the Asian fortresses in the Carpathian Basin. And these are the pictures of the ancient fortresses selected to be part of the World Heritage List because among the ancient fortresses we have more than six, of course. And when it was decided to discuss why just six, of course, the question was what, which we discussed already to be representative, but also to respect the UNESCO rules concerning OUV, but also authenticity and integrity of the site. So from the map and from the pictures, of course, they are original, but to go to find the remains in the forest it's not so easy. So we have a project which we launched already two years ago about the management of the World Heritage Sites in Romania and about the management. Unfortunately, just one site in Romania has the management plan. Other, yeah, two of them, let's say Danube Delta, which is natural and among six of the cultural sites, just one, the monastery who is, it has the management plan, which is accessible, it's open source, is placed on the webpage. Other five and most of them are serial sites, they do not have the management plans. The question is under discussion. We try to bring together the people responsible from the area to discuss. We did already a couple of seminars to discuss the issue, to train them to explain the role and the content and which is the management plan for the each site. We hope as a result of these discussions under Ministry of Culture and the government by approving the new decision of the government they will enforce somehow or they will force the local authorities to open the question and to develop the management plan of the each site. So access, it's more or less easy because if you open the maps, if you open the different applications, it's easy to put, for example, Kapilna, UNESCO or the World Heritage Sites Romania and the application will give you the ways. And also if you traveled through Romanian roads, you'll find a lot of inscriptions concerning for example, the World Heritage Site, in this case, the Dacian fortresses or different other monasteries or rural sites which are inscribed in. So it was a project done by government together with the Minister of Transportation and they placed a lot of inscriptions and you will find easy to, so in some cases it's like a collections of the list of sites and directions and of course, how many kilometers from this point to another. Which is good, so you could see the symbol of the World Heritage gives you an impression that you are following the right way to find the site. But in finally, the situation is different because most of them are in the forest and the one you arrived, the main question will be where the site is. So we have some pictures from the drones or from the planes and you could see the forest okay, in the winter and some remains of the San Misigitusa Regia fortress which are visible more or less but it's not so easy to understand. But the main issue, especially in this post-communist countries the quality of roads. Just a few years ago it was like this and especially when it's rain or after winter it's not so easy to drive and to find the way. In finally, it was a European project or supported by European funds and they built the road. You see impressive amount of money were invested and more or less the road, the question of the access and the quality of road was solved with the parking, with some information and also some barriers to stop the cars to go directly to the site. So more or less it's much better. With some information, the quality of information it's another issue when we are discussing about the access to the information because you could see the schedule for the winter time, for the summer time but also you could see the rules even if it's huge one, it's not visible. I don't know exactly how many people stopping in front of this and trying to read the rules of visiting the site. So when we are discussing about the access to the information, the quality and also the usefulness it is useful just to show that we have the rules of the site. And then, okay, this is another picture to show you the road and the parking area and small museum of the site. But when they built the road, probably they didn't take into account the specific of the area of the mountain but also the erosion. So this is just from the last year when I visited the site just exactly one year ago and also the rain and erosion. So this happened already three or four times, last year twice and this year in the spring the second time. So the quality of road, it's not the best one and you could see. So from the mountain are coming the water and the trees and everything and also erosion from the river area also destroying the quality. Infrastructure issue also it's an important to visit the site, especially the natural site or the mixed site or the serial site that have all necessary elements for the visiting. Toilets are placed exactly on the road area. So it's easy to have the access but we have also to take in account the effects and the impact. And also security because here it's exactly the end of the year. Anyway, it's funny but it's not funny. And then sometimes, even if I show you the picture that the site is closed for the car sometimes when they're doing public events the access of the cars gets open and actually it's open until the remains of the ancient fortress which is not so good because not so far one and a half kilometer just to walk through the forest, which is nice but you see agglomeration of the cars in the site. It's against the rules of course and it's against the preservation. Tickets and another issue sometimes people are not staying in the castle. So you have to find who is selling the tickets because the guy, the garden in the site will ask you the ticket but the person who is responsible so you shouldn't think it's not always. It's somewhere around, which is another aspect. It's practical one. It's about the quality of service for the visitors. And also the information which is placed in the site at the entrance, the useful of the information and how clearly explain the structure of the site and also the excavations and what meaning some remains which was discovered. So for example, this is a portion of the antique road and it should be better explained because it's not clear what is there, why it's protected by the barriers and how it was used during the ancient time. Now it's much better than it was for example, 10 years ago, 15 years ago, you could see the difference. Now they are cleaning. Now they have the preservation guard and also it's much better than it was before when I'm speaking about the remains from antiquity from the Roman time mostly of them, some of them from pre-Roman period but you have to find the guide to explain because otherwise it's not so easy especially for the people coming from other countries to understand which kind of sanctuary and the role of sanctuary in this part of the ancient fortress. The forest issue is still active and also always a debate between the people from the forest administration and people from the heritage department because it's not allowed to cut something but it's not allowed to bring or to do something. So it's not my job saying heritage guys and people from the natural side or from the natural division say it's your cultural side and you have to take care. So you see this ping-pong of responsibility it's another aspect concerning the preservation and also the access and protection of serial site like this one. So another fortress it's Kostesce Tetsui which is close to the Sarmistice Ytusa until last year it was a person responsible for the site and you see it was Gendarmerie Montane but nobody's there because she is already retired and the administration no more money to employ anybody else and actually it's nobody responsible for the site. So if you will find the way you could go through this pillow and to go through the forest to find the site and on the site you will see some information and some something like this this is the structure of the fortress if you could interpret the information would be okay if not you have to find the remains and to try to the situation also it's not so good because the erosion of the construction of the stone construction but also the clay you see it's now it's under discussion and preparing a new project by the Institute of Heritage to protect them and to change the issue. So Pietro Rochier it's another the third fortress also you have to find the way to the left or to the right when you arrive in front of this so we guessed that it's to the left and we succeed because it's to the left it's on the top of the hill. So not so far we discovered another mention that it's and then if you are lucky the gate could be opened or it could be closed because it's a relation between private ownership and the state ownership and this to go to the forest you have to cross the private sector and it depends. So the quality of information also it's not so good it's very old and not so much explaining and also you could see the remainder of the ancient road which is very well done it was and it's a good aspect of the site but unfortunately it's not protected and the remains of excavations since 1980 something like this you see they were not in covered and when you arrive on the site this is the center of the fortress and the question is where the fortress is it was not so much so it's here some hills remains of the excavations it's not the landscape from antiquity so it's good that it's open area on the main part of the fortress but it's not so clear so Kepilna fortress it's another one also it's in the top of the hill you could see the road which is not so easy to find and also you have to follow the borders and the buffers one more or less are very clear done how much they're respecting it's another issue so you could see a year of photo and then from the main road two kilometers you have to actually to find a way to try to find through the private properties it's okay out access is close but it's not so clear the way Cetate you see guys know it's in this direction but in this direction it's another gate and if it's open it's okay if no you have to just to jump and then to find a way so in finally you'll find that when I was there in June it was so you see some information more actual than it was before but when we visited the site two months later it's very bad word I'm not translating from Romania it's a relation of the citizens to the government actual government and actual party but it's an address you know from June to September then actually they destroyed the information and saying something against the government some think it was right some people from the Bucharest tried to do some restoration project which is another aspect of the quality of information how they re-established or how they reconstruct so they use the imagination and that's why we discussed we have to use the experts who are experts is another issue but we have to ask archeologists, architects we have to analyze and to build the project not like this because it's not the goal it's not to rebuild or rehabilitate of the fortress according to general knowledge from how it was in medieval time how it was or how it is in some parts of the world it should be adapted to the local realities and to be taken account of the results of the archeological excavations Bledaro it's another fortress which is much better of the others also yeah I will finish yeah you could see the access also you have to jump really to this and to go in the fortress to see some remains more or less it's clean site because it's one guy's responsible I'm trying to protect the site but the last time I think the worst case Benica from the road you could see the inscription the World Heritage to Tate Benica it's just in front of you it's just in front of you it's exactly on the top of this here and here it's the railway and then no more ways to find the fortress you have to guess okay my first when I tried firstly so I didn't find because you have to go through the railway and you have to be careful because it's active one and in front of you to come or behind of you and you have to jump to the left or to the right so through the forest you have to go and to try to find some remains so finally I arrived on the top of the mountain but my question was where the World Heritage site is because nothing through the forest it's visible and it is World Heritage site it's not just some remains of the constructions I don't know various periods of time so that's why I think access to the sites and also preservation should be part of the sustainable development and should be discussed of the people from the local to the national level to find the best way for giving the access for explaining what it is and also it is a question about the real situation and the future development of the World Heritage site in Romania and that's why through this project we are trying to raise the questions to try to open the eyes of the responsible people from the local area to the national one and to accept the reality and after that to try to find the solutions for each cave separately and also to develop the management plans because the management plan it's a real tool for preservation for the tourist development and for sustainable development thank you so much I hope I stop here