 From Seattle, Washington extracting the signal from the noise It's the Cube on the ground at OpenStack Day Seattle 2015 Now here's your host Jeff Frick. Jeff Frick here with the Cube We are on the ground in Seattle Washington at the OpenStack Seattle Innovation Day pretty exciting It's the first kind of dedicated OpenStack event in Seattle We were in Vancouver a few weeks ago for OpenStack Summit will be in the Bay Area for OpenStack Silicon Valley next week So it's all about OpenStack, and it's all about open source We're really excited to be joining this next segment by Chet Golding principal cloud architect from Zeffelin Systems. Welcome. Well, thank you Absolutely, so you're local guys So what how do you like having kind of all this action going on in Seattle this week at Linux con? He had container con seems like everybody's in Seattle this week. Yeah I have a close friend one of our partners was speaking yesterday on Containerization pretty interesting actually busy people We were at docker con a couple weeks ago and clearly, you know Dockers hit some magic in terms of containers and really the momentum behind containers Although everyone always says well containers have been around for a long time, but really now it's you know Dockers kind of hit the secret sauce. Why do you think why do you think suddenly all the excitement around something? It's really been around for a while. Well, it's a it's a desire to go beyond Where we were before like always is in our industry, right? So the container thing is really cool You know a few years ago if you were looking at running something on VMWare running something on Amazon You got one virtual machine. You could put what you wanted on that one box, right? One of the interesting models to go into is I'm gonna go to rack space or I'm gonna go to Amazon I'm gonna pay for my one virtual machine. I pay for that with a standard price But I can only run this one app on it because my apps designed that way if I go with containers I'm still paying that same price, but maybe I can run 10 or 12 apps on that same machine instead of having to pay 10 or 12 times as much And that's the whole goal of cloud computing, right? I mean we want to be able to put things where we want them how they'll move around have them cost less give us more Flexibility and containers just go further down that one road, right? It's amazing how you think innovation is done and we just keep like recently going over and over another wave another way But what another way but you're here talking about something different which Sri said it's the first telco track Dedicated telco track at an open-stack event So talk a little bit about your history and telco and why this is new and an exciting again a new opportunity Yeah, so my my history and technology goes back quite a way, but working with telcos is Relatively new it's only been within this decade right for me. I've been doing this a long time But the interesting thing to me with open-stack and telcos is the community itself So I'm more interested in the people in this case particular case in the technology, right? So telcos are one of those industries has been around for a long time that has dealt with this border crossing concept, right? You you pick up your phone and you call Bangladesh. I can pick up my phone. I can call South America I can call Africa whatever And there's another component where our telcos are becoming cloud companies We hadn't really thought of them. We thought of them as phone companies, right? But your cell phone these days you have an application, you know your data is in the cloud You back up your contact list to the cloud You contact Facebook and all of those kinds of things are all carrying over your telco, right? So the telcos are working on Platforms and standards just like everyone else and they're working on similar standards to go around the globe one of those is Hey, we're all using open-stack, right? So we have telcos and you know, I've worked with them in Europe and in Asia and the US and they're using the same Basic platform for the same basic reason and they're using the same community to solve the same problems, right? So they're crossing borders not just in Territory physically, right and they're crossing borders and technology. They want to work with VMware They want to work with open-stack. They want to work with IBM and they're the big dogs, right? They're going out we're gonna spend hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars on these things in the US and Europe and China And so all the big companies listen, right? VMware wants to work with AT&T You know VMware wants to work with T-Mobile, right? And if these companies want to work with open-stack at the same time on the same piece of hardware Then those are problems that we're all sort of solving together. So they're crossing that technology border, right? And then you get this human thing this human thing. It's like I said, it's most interesting to me I sat in a conference, you know talking to some guy from the Netherlands, right? Arturo is here. He came over. I forget where he came from Spain, maybe And I was talking with this this guy from China, right? All in this one conference and we're from all over the place And we're all supporting the same thing. We're supporting open-stack. You know one of these things is Multilingual editions of the open-stack documentation, right? And so you know what? There's a telco in China that really likes being able to get open-stack documentation in Chinese Right? So we're crossing all of these different kinds of borders with open-stack and the telco is doing it everywhere It's really actually pretty cool. And their biggest thing is again people they have to make it easy and transparent So in some of the talks today we talked about how complicated open-stack is, right? But if you look at the corporations, big enterprises, right? They need to deliver open-stack and make it look so simple that a five-year-old can pick up their cell phone or dad's cell phone Tablet and they can do something where their data is all going in and off of the cloud And that's the the cool way today the open-stack is crossing borders all over that all over the world So how is crossing borders via AT&T or a telco different than crossing borders at a big enterprise? I don't know shell shell. I'm thinking big oil or Or IBM or HP or whomever. How's it tell the telco model different? well, it that's an excellent question actually so If you talk about the oil companies, they're also crossing borders. That's absolutely true, right? The difference maybe is the oil company is reaching and improving the lives of people If you look at it that way in that you can get gas to put in your boat You can get gas to put in your your toys, you know in your lawnmowers, whatever it is They're doing a lot of work that changes the lives of people and they're definitely doing that Telcos are a little different in that you have This order of magnitude is just gargantuous, right? There's something like six point two billion cell phones in use today. It's just daunting to think about right? China has something like one point two India Just under a billion right that kind of those kind of numbers. They're just phenomenal numbers So all of that cloud traffic if you think of it that way, right is going on and off of pretty much Everyone's device through some kind of a telco because that's where all the data actually moves, right? And so even the other enterprises really are using telcos to move all of that data So the the fundamental layer where the most effect is being had is really at the telco layer They're not in every case the driver of the newest and the coolest technology in many people's minds But if you think all the stuff they have to support right if there's anything cool You can put on your cell phone AT&T or T-Mobile or Ryzen they have to support that, right? So they have to drive the coolest technology to support that kind of stuff You know considering consider your your home devices You hook up your TV and you watch one channel of TV with one amount of data going through right your cable your cable Box or whatever and these companies are are handling hundreds of millions to billions of concurrent connections doing That for every single person on the planet, right? And so that's it's phenomenal I mean if you just stop and think about what they're doing, it's actually mind-blowing Yeah, well and as you said since since everything is going through mobile certainly with the younger folks all this Innovation ultimately is delivered via the telco. It is absolutely. Yeah, you know, I watch watch TV on my cell phone I had never guessed that that was gonna happen. So so last question you your perspective think it of the people What's the next big hurdle to take down in terms of the people in the process? Well, that's that's pretty tricky. It's hard to say what the next big hurdles are from the perspective of People I look at it as the five-year-old is is our leader in technology today, right? The rest of us are trying to catch up and I don't mean that to be silly or cheeky You know, I seriously mean that because you know, I will see someone who's 85 someone who's 50 60 You know down to their 20s and 30s you get to some point and they still believe it's possible that it won't work Right, it might somehow not function and you go all the way down to that five-year-old They don't believe that right the youth of the world has always believed anything is possible because they don't know any better yet Right, so the driver the real directors of where we're going are gonna be those kids, right? Because they've seen the things that you know, probably you and I saw on Star Trek, right? You know, it's still to us on still kind of science fiction to them It's never been science fiction is all reality, right? So the next hurdle is going to be probably for us to realize that they're right We're still a little doubtful of how far we can go, right? And they're not they're not doubtful, right? So we have to actually answer their desire to have it continue to be real, right? We can't have it break down Amazon can't go down right rack space can't go down AT&T T-Mobile all the telcos they can't go down because this five-year-old wants to send pictures to his dad And I rack or something right or to his buddy who lives in China that he just met on Facebook last week Right and that's the next hurdle is us understanding these guys Believe it and we have to follow through. Yeah, it's great close jet. Well. Thanks for taking a few minutes Best of luck on your on your your session later today. I'm Jeff Frick. You are watching the Cube We are live on the ground in Seattle, Washington at OpenStack Seattle. Thanks for watching