 Thank you. I want to call this work session of the Durham City Council to order at one o'clock on April the 23rd, 2020, another extraordinary distance session, work session of the Durham City Council. I want to welcome all my colleagues. I want to give a special thanks again to our tech folks, all the people from technology solutions, the people from public affairs, Vivian Cruz Adorti, who always guests us ready and tease us up especially and really, really appreciate all the work that you all are doing to make these extraordinary sessions possible in a very difficult environment. Thank you. We'll begin with a roll call, Madam Clerk. Good afternoon, everyone. Mayor Schuyl, Mayor Pro Tem Johnson, Councilmember Caballero, Councilmember Freeman, President, Councilmember Middleton, Councilmember Reese. Thank you. Thank you. We'll now proceed to announcements by members of the council. Any council members, if you'll raise your hand so I can see you, that would be great. I don't see any one's hands up. I see Councilmember Reese. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just wanted to deliver some birthday greetings to a city resident we hear from a lot but aren't hearing from today because we're not meeting in person and that is Chris Tiffany. Our social media somewhat reliably informs me that Mr. Tiffany turned 70 years old today and I think it's fair to say that I am not his favorite person on the Durham City Council. To be honest, I'm not sure he has a favorite person on the Durham City Council and that is A-OK. I think Mr. Tiffany is someone who brings issues to us that nobody else is willing to talk about, especially not in the very unique way that he brings them to our attention but I just want to say in this setting that I am actually sorry we're not seeing him today because it's I think just a part of our work is hearing from him periodically and I hope he's doing well wherever he is. So that's all I had to say, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. I'm sorry. Any further announcements? Okay. If not, we'll move to priority items and we'll begin with priority items by the City Manager. Good afternoon, Mr. Mayor and members of the Council. Welcome. The City Manager's office has no priority items this afternoon. Thank you, Mr. Manager. Madam Attorney, Kim, I think you're muted. Can you hear me, Mr. Mayor? Yes. I apologize. I can't get my screen to adjust. There are no priority items from the City Attorney's office this afternoon either. Thank you very much, Madam Attorney. Thank you. Madam Clerk. Good afternoon, Mayor and Council. I do have a priority item. The Mayor requested that I do some research about our board's committees and commissions and their reactivation. Thank you. Thank you very much, Madam Clerk. Colleagues, I think what we'll do with the, we'll vote to accept the clerk's priority item and then we'll move it to the end of our agenda for some discussion. I just thought it would be good if we all got to weigh in a little bit on how we want to reactivate our boards and commissions. That sound okay, everybody? All right. Can I have a motion to approve the clerk's priority item? So moved. Second. It's been moved and seconded that we approve the clerk's priority items. I'm going to ask for everyone who's in favor to please raise their hand so that I could see him. Great. All opposed. The motion passes unanimously. Thank you, Madam Clerk and we'll take that up at the end of the meeting. Okay. Thank you. All right. We'll now move to our administrative consent items and I'll begin with the City Clerk's office approval of the City Council minutes. Madam Clerk, I do have two corrections I wanted to mention for the March the fifth meeting which I can send to you so that they could be made prior to our council meeting. Just to mention one of them is on page two in the discussion of budget guidelines. It says that the manager Bonfield discussed locking in the tax rate at 0.07 cents. I think, I mean, that's not accurate. I'm not sure if that may be only referred to the bid rate, but it needs more explanation and clarity there for the manager's remarks. And then it also mentions that I suggested language that but doesn't say what it was about the budget guidelines which I think it probably should because I know that the management used that language to clarify the guidelines. I will send you that and also on page four of those same March fifth minutes it says occupation tax when it should say occupancy tax. So I'll send you these things in writing so you can have them prior to Monday night. Okay. Thank you very much. Sure. Item two, Citizens Advisory Committee Appointment. Item three, Durham Bicycle and Bedesha Commission Appointments. Item four, Durham City County Appearance Commission Reappointments. Item five, Durham Open Space of Commission Appointment. Item six, Durham Performance Arts Center Oversight Committee Appointments. Item seven, Durham Workers Rights Commission Appointments. And item eight, Participatory Budgeting Steering Committee Appointments. Item nine, Recreation Advisory Commission Appointments. Madam Clerk has been receiving ballots for this and at the end of the meeting we'll discuss how that value went as usual. Departmental Items, Department of Community. Yes, Charles. Yes, Councilmember Reese. Do we want to talk about re-advertising any of these appointments? Yes, thank you. Should we do that at the end or do it now? Go ahead. Yeah, I would like to request re-advertising the Durham Open Space and Trails Commission Appointment. I agree with that. Others have any thoughts? I just wanted to let y'all know that I did share that same suggestion with the clerks off this yesterday. Okay, so is everybody good with re-advertising Durham Open Space and Trails Commission Appointments? Yep, that sounds great. All right, thank you. Then with an objection we'll do that. Thank you, Councilmember. Department of Community Development, Item 10, Contract with Housing for New Hope to service the unsheltered coordinating agency. I'm going to pull Item 10. Item 11, Amendment 1 to CN 14605 Lake Mickey and Little River, Raw Water Pump Station Improvements Design Phase. Item 12, Westclaw Boulevard, Quarter Utility Rehabilitation Amendment 1 to the Professional Engineering Services Contract. I won't pull this, but I will point out that it's going to hem me in because it's going to be on both sides of my house and I'll be interested in how I'm going to get out of my house, but I bet you that can be handled otherwise at this meeting. Item 13, Bid Report, March 2020. Item 14, Contract with LRB Creek Watershed Association, Inc., and I want to pull Item 14. I was going to say the same. I actually just text you all of the items. Okay, well, as we go through them, since I don't have my phone sitting right here, if you wouldn't mind just letting me know, that'd be great. Item 15, Contract with Rebuilding Together of the Triangle. I'm going to pull that item. All right. Item 16, Interlocal Agreement with Durham County Soil and Water Conservation District. Did you say 14 already? I missed that one. Yes. The ones I've got so far are 10, 14, and 15. Mr. Mayor, did you get the, weren't some of these, wasn't the administration asking that some of these be referred back? I've not heard that. It wasn't an email earlier today. It was? Okay. The city manager can help us with that. Yeah. Mr. Manager, are we referring? I apologize. I don't know that I've seen that email. Okay. I'll check with Ms. Wallace while you're going through this. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, this is Deputy City Manager Bo Ferguson. We did request earlier in the day that 14, 15, and 16 get referred back, and I do think that got sent out via agenda coordinator, but I apologize to the manager if he didn't get that information. No worries. We're in difficult times and communication is difficult, so we're all just doing the best we can. Thank you very much. General Services has requested those items be pulled back. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Let me just, yeah. Thank you very much. 14, 15, and 16. All right. So we're now at Item 17, Proposed Lease for Police District Number One Substation at 915 Holloway Street. I'm going to pull that item. All right. Item 18, Proposed Sale of Property Located at 14, 15 Westclaw Boulevard to Garmin Homes, LLC. And that one as well. All right. Item 19, Under Solid Waste, Second Amendment to the Processing and Marketing Recyclable Materials Contract. I'm going to pull that item. Item 20, Under Department of Transportation Durham County Transit Plan. I'm going to pull that item as well. So the items I have pulled. Yeah. I'll just ask that there's a presentation with that one. I don't believe that that's planned. Okay. We have, Mr. Manager, I have 10, 17, 18, 19, and 20. That's what I have too, Mr. Mayor. Thank you. Okay. We are going to then begin with Item 10, Contract with Housing for New Hope to Service the Unsheltered Coordinating Agency. And I have pulled this item. So, you know, I want to begin by saying that this is a very impressive plan that we've got going with our homelessness work. And this is a key building block in our homelessness strategy. And I want to thank the county for jointly funding this with us. It's great to see our homelessness system start to come together in a big way. Beginning with the build out of the activities of entry point Durham, and now combining this with the street outreach and the encampment response. We've been funding that on an interim basis, but it's good to see this come forward. I thought that the standards were very clear and very rigorous, and I thought the training requirements were great. I do want to ask now, there are no training requirements in this manual course for how to deal with a person who is an unsheltered homeless person, who is for people who are doing outreach to them in the era of COVID-19. And I wonder how we were handling that outreach in light of that. How we are planning to address through street outreach, our homeless population, and help them through the COVID-19 moment or months. And just particularly say, I've been on the American Tobacco Trail quite a bit, and where the trail crosses Faddle Street, there are often homeless people there, and there looks to be a group there now. And no one that I saw was socially distancing wearing masks, and I was wondering what the status of the outreach to these communities is at this point. So those are my questions. And I'm not sure who's here for the administration too. Ms. Lotto, welcome. And it's like, and Ms. Hogeman. Good afternoon, Ms. Karen Lotto, Assistant Director of Community Development. I am going to ask my colleague, Hanela Hogeman, to answer the parts of the question that she can. Some of this we may need to get back to you in writing with some additional information, because as you know, a lot of the day-to-day work with the homeless community is being handled through the EOC, and the staff that we have deployed to the EOC. So we may need to follow up after Hanela addresses. Understood. Thank you. Yeah. And hi, Hanela Hogeman. I'm sorry. Could the question be repeated? Sure. One of my questions was I know that our staff is going to need, the manual for this item includes a lot of great, the attachments includes a training manual, which is excellent. It talks about the training that people are going to be receiving to do the homeless outreach work. But of course, it doesn't include, because it couldn't have foreseen, training for homeless outreach workers to do, street outreach workers, to be trained to work with people in the COVID-19 era. And I was wondering how that was, that's one question. Are they receiving any training? And the second is to keep themselves and others safe. The second question is, what is our plan for the unsheltered homeless over the next few months with COVID-19? We have the hotel that we have that's housing people from urban ministries. We know the plan for families moving forward. I've heard a little about the plan for the unsheltered homeless, but I'm concerned to hear more and to hear what the plan is. Sure. So to start off with the question about training for COVID, it's not something that the city is providing. But what I can say is that the folks that work closely with people experiencing unsheltered homelessness have formed a working group that includes medical experts. So they're working very closely with Duke Clinic, Lincoln Community Healthcare, and Derm Homeless Care Transitions, all of whom bring that medical perspective to the work to make sure that the work is being done from both the perspective of keeping the staff safe, but then also making sure that the client's medical needs are being met. So at the HSEC meeting on Wednesday, Julia Gamble from Derm Homeless Care Transitions and Duke Clinic spoke some about the concerns about hepatitis. Those concerns came from that work of street outreach workers partnering with medical providers to really assess those medical needs. I can also say that there's been a lot of guidance coming from HUD and other national experts and from the state on how to work safely with people during COVID, and that we're working very closely to share that with our providers, which of course includes street outreach. In terms of the question about generally our plan for responding to unsheltered homelessness during COVID, it is a concern. We are slowly starting to be able to open back up the flow back into shelter, and that is a slow process. We've been very focused right now on those who are medically vulnerable during COVID, so that's been our primary focus is we have a list of folks who are unsheltered and who have a higher risk of fatality due to a pre-existing medical condition or due to their age if they were to be infected, and we've been very focused on getting those folks into shelter, and at this point I believe we have been able to completely move every client that is actively working with us out of that situation and into a safer isolated shelter location. The next phase will be going back to a more traditional shelter placement through entry point, and we plan to start doing that towards the end of this week today, moving forward, and it will uptick over the next three weeks until we're fully at capacity. Of course that doesn't mean that there won't be unsheltered homelessness. One of the things I can say is that we've been working very intensively with NCCEH, the North Carolina Coalition, to end homelessness in their capacity as the coordinated entry administrator of the COC to really push rapid housing, and I'm very happy to say that we're seeing results already. We are meeting weekly now to discuss people who need to be prioritized for permanent supportive housing, and we've already seen some success there, and we'll continue to push for our frontline providers, including street outreach, including entry point to identify more quickly those folks who have higher barriers to shelter and are going to continue to experience that unsheltered homelessness. We're working very closely with providers like Carolina Outreach and other Alliance providers who are aware of folks who have persistent unsheltered homelessness and might be outside of the normal realm of our system, but this is an ongoing effort, and I think that one of the benefits of the UCA contract is that it actually brings our capacity up higher to do this work faster. We'll be able to identify the client's factor, we'll be able to verify their homeless records and their disabilities faster and get them housed faster, so I think we'll only see improvements when this program really is brought online. Thank you very much. That's a great summary. When you say that, so am I to understand that now that the people who have already been, that we've been working with and the ones who are medically vulnerable have been housed in hotels, is my understanding, then are you saying that other people who come into the system through the unsheltered homeless outreach will be put into a traditional shelter situation and does that mean they'll be, for example, in urban ministries which will be operated at a very low level of occupancy? How will that work? So yeah, I use the word shelter flexibly to refer to the ways our shelters are operating right now, which in some cases is a traditional shelter setting like for families moving forward and in some cases the hotel setting. I think it's important to really emphasize that this is still operating like a shelter. We're still prioritizing using entry point, we still can't guarantee spots and not everyone is going to get access and I think there might have been some confusion initially about that. So I'm trying to use that word shelter to emphasize this is still a shelter setting. We're just, we've moved that shelter setting to a hotel. So yes, anyone being served through urban ministries right now would be in a hotel setting but it's that same process and we're considering it a shelter program. So does that mean, Honolaya, that an unsheltered, so are we expecting demand that we can't meet from unsheltered people in the hotels? I know we've had a lot of people calling to be able to access the hotels who perhaps were not truly homeless or were on the verge of homelessness and that kind of thing but for people who are unsheltered do we expect demand that we will not be able to meet in the hotel setting? Yes, I mean I think that the plan is for UMD to eventually within the next three weeks to get back up to their normal capacity which I think is about 122 clients for single. So that means that there will be people who don't have a shelter option as always. Our hope is to work really hard during this time to get people out faster, to house people faster, to do direct connections to housing to reduce that but by no means is this a guarantee that everyone who's unsheltered has a space. One of the benefits I will say of the current situation is we're able to do things right now that we can't normally. There's a lot of folks who have long-term persistent histories of unsheltered homelessness who normally won't go to shelter because they can't be sheltered with their partner because they feel unsafe in a congregate setting and we're getting calls about those clients now because they're more interested. So some of the folks who may have said no in the past or may not have made this work in the past may actually be interested in going in now which is great which means that higher vulnerability folks may actually be able to get access to the system and be able to be sheltered but that by no means means that we're anticipating fully addressing unsheltered homelessness during COVID by sheltering everyone. You know I don't think that there's any expectation that we'd be able to do that. Thank you. Thank you for the great work that you all are doing you and Colin and everybody in community development. I think you all have you've done a great job building the system out. If we were not we would not be nearly as prepared for this crisis had you all not been doing the laying the groundwork for entry point Durham and the street outreach. So thank you so much. Colleagues other colleagues with questions or comments. Mayor Pro Tem. Thank you and thank you Hanalea. I had a quick question about housing for New Hope. Do you have a sense of how big the organization is right now like what's their annual budget how many staff and is this investment from the city in that county a significant increase in their capacity to do work and what's your sense of their plan for like hiring and skilling up people to do the new program and like getting this new program up and running. Right so in terms of specific numbers about their budget and how many staff they have right now I want to say that we'll follow up on that with specific numbers but in terms of the question about their capacity this is an expansion of their capacity as we spoke about a while ago it did have through alliance funding and a sort of engagement project that did have staffing they then lost all but one of those staff members so they're rebuilding but we do anticipate they're going to be rebuilding to that place that they were at before and then and then growing beyond that one of the things that we're working very closely with them on is actually bringing on new services related leadership because they're expanding their services capacity so much and because the expectation for high intensity services for this program is so high that there's a really a need for leadership who can focus on that services because they are expanding and so the we worked very closely with them we actually took about from the point when the RFP process closed and an award was recommended actually to the point where we submitted this contract we took about two months actually working with them uh meeting with them about I would say eight hours a week working very closely on their plan for staffing capacity making sure that they had a really really feasible budget for the program that the that the staff that they were planning on hiring would be able to bring this up to capacity so this has been a really close collaboration to build up the program design um and I think we feel really confident through that work that they're ready they're already starting to look at that hiring piece and they're really ready to bring on that additional capacity um I sorry I was just making sure that I wasn't getting um information yes so that's right housing really hope is providing me with the information their current budget is um well they said 2.5 um I would assume that's 2.5 million and uh and they said they currently have about 20 staff so this program we would anticipate they'll be um they'll be five they'll be four new dedicated staff in this program so that'll um including the current supervisor of the program that'll bring it to five dedicated staff for the program and then with the new leadership they're bringing on that person will be partially dedicated to the program and then they're also planning on utilizing some of their existing community outreach staffing to also partially support this this project this is really going to be an agency wide effort because it is such a unique uh contract in that it does have that direct services component but it also really has that community coordination and leadership component as well so it's going to cross cut across their organization to be able to bring this to fruition thank you that was really helpful um I'm really glad that we're able to support organization they do a lot of work with us already but it's uh yeah it's um it's comforting to hear that y'all have been working really closely with them on the expansion because I know that can be um really hard for nonprofits that to add new programs or to expand significantly their staff or their scope of operations so thank you I'm really glad that we're um we're moving this forward even though the circumstances have changed significantly on the ground thanks thank you madam mayor pro tem are there other questions or comments on this item I raise your hand or or speak up either one okay I don't think so thank you very much miss hoberman we appreciate you and the work you're doing thank you miss lotto thanks to reginald thanks to all of you all um in community development this is a great step forward and best of luck to our folks out there in the field and uh tell them to stay well thank you thank you all right um we'll now move to item 17 if I can get my computer back up here let's see item 17 uh is proposed lease for district one substation on 15 hollow way street and councilmember freeman pulled this item it did thank you I actually um I'm glad we had that full conversation about the services we're providing and funding we're spending around homelessness and recognizing that the can you hear me I'm just making sure I have a different earpiece on but just noting that a prevailing factor in homelessness is often race and then often is also followed up by income I wanted to point out that in this in this um memo I noted that there was a note to say that the office of equity and inclusion was not there was no um requirements or review and I wanted to find out if there was a reason why the dollars we spend around development which is more like asset focus and equity focus there's nothing in place to review it so that we're looking at who owns property that we're putting rent um funding into so it would be like so over the last we're talking about 2.9 million dollars for 10 years that's almost three million dollars that we're pouring into um as an asset or pouring into a someone's asset and I wanted to make sure that we're evaluating that against you know some of the other property owners who may not be um who may not be receiving these funding so just making sure to hold it up and say that this would be a good opportunity to make sure that the office of equity and inclusion is included in this conversation at all times thank you councilmember um duly noted is there a question that you want to add uh to that specifically um when you're evaluating where you're where you're using your rentals or where you're putting rentals is there a process that includes office of equity and inclusion or is there any process that includes looking at race um this is david fleischer from the general services department um the equity and inclusion department does not have any requirements for the location of rentals to be judged or to include the question of race or equity inclusion um in this case this site was chosen uh due to its location and its ability to facilitate the needs of the police department especially our very heavy need for parking of the police uh personnel's personal vehicles as well as of course the police vehicles also the location of this is in the all bright uh neighborhood which is in northeast central Durham and is most uh appropriate for locating toward the center of district one and that's how this site was chosen and again there wasn't any additional thought given toward equity and inclusion and uh there was no review by the equity and inclusion department can I ask a specific question is this property owner of color i do not believe so no tell me don't thank you thank you thank you mr fleischer thank you councilmember freeman we'll now move to item 18 i think i pulled that one as well yes you did councilmember this is uh proposed sale property uh property loan at 1415 west club all over and uh similar to the last go around i think um anytime there's a well this is a proposed sale rather than a donation but in this sale um i noticed that there's a contract in it i wasn't sure if there was a point like i might have missed it so i'm being very clear i read through it very quickly is there anything that that includes something around affordable housing in this sale again this is david fleischer from the real estate division of the general services department there is no uh there is no proffer of affordable housing this is a very small uh and by that i mean 30 by 30 foot uh area that the city has as residual from the development of club boulevard uh it was uh offered for for purchase from the adjacent property owner there is no other property owner that would have this or want this uh in their inventory and there's nothing that the city had a need for we got a good uh fair market value offer for this property and uh recommend that we sell the property to the adjacent property owner can i when you say that the city doesn't have a need for do you think that the city doesn't have a need for affordable housing no ma'am i mean for this specific uh parcel of property there's no need from any of the city departments the water management department doesn't need it for a water line transportation doesn't need it for sidewalk etc etc that we have checked with all city departments to make sure there was no public need for this with regard to affordable housing on this property uh in particular again it's a very very small undevelopable property uh approximately 30 and i'm looking it's 30 feet by 36 feet and mr fleischer it's not buildable in and of itself in any event right that is correct i'm not specific i'm not saying specific to the 30 by 30 property i mean the the property around it is about it's like i think i saw about two acres almost two acres so the property that'll be built once the property owner purchases this piece of land that has no stipulation of affordability include included with it but i wanted to um to direct this more to the council and and acknowledging that if we don't put something in place when staff is reviewing these items they don't have any lever to say or leverage to say to property owners who are potentially looking at us you know they're building housing so can we put something in place that says to at least review for the possibility of affordable housing being built in that space thank you council member any comments members of the council council uh mayor pro tem thanks mr mayor um yeah when i when i first read that item i was also concerned about selling residential property that the city owns to a private developer um but given the size of the piece of property and the fact that we can't build anything on it i thought the sale was reasonable what i do think we should consider um for this sale and also for any future sales of residential property owned by the city is that the proceeds go into our affordable housing fund so that we can then use that money um towards our affordable housing goals um so just wanted to suggest that to the council for this particular action and then also um ask the the staff to come back to us with an idea for a policy that would um that would make that happen automatically whenever we sell any residential property we don't do it often and it's not usually um anything anything high value or we would keep it and try to you know give it to a non-profit or build something on it but i think it would be um in keeping with our with our goals and our values to make sure that that money goes into affordable housing thank you um so you're suggesting that for this action um i i guess what i would say is that um why don't we keep this on the agenda for monday and uh we'll look to our um city management to come back with any thoughts that they might have about that and we could take action on that at that time on monday night we'll do and in fact uh if we need to amend the uh the recommendation uh we can take care of that in the meantime thank you mr manager thank you mr fly sure anything else from council members all right thank you all for that those were good thoughts uh we'll now move on to uh item none and uh i believe i pulled that one um this is the second member of the processing and marketing recyclable materials contract hello mr ryan gruber how are you i'm great how are you doing mayor thank you it looks like the total revenue swing in a couple of years here is we were bringing in 450 thousand dollars and now we're in a year or two we're going to be paying out 750 thousand dollars that you'll have that about right yeah we could pay out more than a million dollars next year with this new contract so it was it was it's quite a big swing quite a big swing and i see mr long as well hello mr long thank you for joining us so um what is our per ton cost to ship waste versus the per ton cost we're paying for the recycling right now we're currently paying 40 dollars and 94 cents for garbage and for recycling we're paying roughly 65 dollars okay under the terms of the contract uh that we are seeking to get approved today uh starting july 1st we will be paying up to a hundred dollars if not more than a hundred dollars per ton for recycling so i think that what it would be important for our public to understand is that if i have this right is that we're paying now instead of receiving income from recycling we'll be paying about twice as much money per ton to recycle as we will to ship our waste out and just have it landfill is that about right yes sir the script is totally it's totally flipped from about three years ago yeah um so i we're still doing single stream and you all are recommending still doing single stream um do we think about changing this uh to having our folks do our residents do more sorting uh so that we can only be recycling what will can be productively recycled and would be landfilling the rest do we you know is it what's the philosophy about continuing the single stream i know this is a big national conversation i wonder what your thoughts about that are we are in favor of continuing the single stream for right now because first of all we don't we don't want to break up anyone's culture or habits of the way they recycle we want to keep it as is but we don't be jumping back and forth between what's good and what's not good but we are going to do some concentrated efforts to get people to know what are the most valued items and what items that uh whether they recycle or put them in put them in the garbage cart you know it really doesn't matter like we're going to be pushing cardboard and and i think we're going to be pushing some some types of plastics and and glass is not paying any money but should the economy the recycling economy shift around i don't want to break up someone's habit and say okay now you can go back to doing this i know i wanted you to stop but now i want you to go back so for right now we're going to keep it as is okay and and there can i also add we're working on this on a regional level we we have a group forum that we're working through triangle j to get some regional consensus on exactly what those high-valued items are and to try to curtail some of the costs that we're paying out the process thank you that's really helpful to hear um i think i also i would mayor also excuse me i would say when we uh meet with you tomorrow afternoon you'll see the uh financial model for solid waste department and and you'll see the how those those costs build in over time affect the uh the financial model uh and and the extent that would be affecting the tax rate in the future thank you very much councilmember caballero yeah i missed the cost for per ton was it 40 per ton for for shipping to the um landfill for garbage yes ma'am it's 40 dollars thank you and then secondly tomorrow when we're talking about solid waste is is are we going to be also talking about composting and impact that would have if we did it really roll it out aggressively i don't know that we have planned that level of detail on composting tomorrow's meeting is much more just kind of an overall financial piece okay we may have some information additional information but i think at this point that's going to be a fairly small percentage of the total tonnage yeah but i know eventually i mean we can divert up to what 30 percent of park garbage stream if we compost like again aggressive and i know that that's a long rollout but i just wanted to have to defer to mr long on that uh yes ma'am that's that's correct okay thank you thank you councilmember any other questions or comments uh for mr long it may raise your hand or speak up okay thank you all so much uh we appreciate it i do think that educating our public is really going to be important um and and i think we can do that you know we we have sophisticated residents in Durham who can you know i think do uh you know if we tell them the things that we shouldn't be in the cart you know we i think we can educate them to that and save ourselves some money and not do the planet any harm so i think we'll look forward to guidance from that from you all mr long yes sir we we will we will pet we will pass our guidance on to the citizens as we develop the strategies great thank you thank you sir okay now we're going to move to item 20 which is Durham county transit plan and i know i wanted to pull this i'm not sure i was actually a person that did uh but um let's i'll i'll we'll begin with that mr egan welcome thank you mr mayor so this item is for consultant support for us to begin the public engagement activities as well as technical support and analysis of the transit plan so that will enable us to provide get input and then use that to provide updates to the plan and do technical analysis so uh erin came from the dchc mpo is here and he can speak to the details of the contract that's being presented erin sure yes um the contract is before you is for uh about six hundred seventy thousand dollars it is combining three things one the development of the transit plan itself uh and then also working on two other things to um put together a uh a coa a an analysis of operations for go Durham as well as developing service standards for go Durham moving forward so those are kind of two add on pieces to the contract that we're doing in conjunction with and using the same consultant for thank you are we uh how are we feeling about the city's kind of seat at the table through the development of the transit plan mr egan so we're very pleased with the cooperation that we're getting from our partners in the county at the mpo at go triangle it's been a very collaborative process where our feedback has been uh solicited and welcome and this is a good example of this contract where we had needs that we felt really should be incorporated into this effort the comprehensive operations analysis as well as the service standard development and our partners were very receptive to including those elements in this and we we saw some benefits in terms of efficiency of incorporating them in here as opposed to doing them as standalone efforts so the partners have been very receptive and very supportive of our efforts and we're very pleased great um that's super let me just stray off topic for a moment and ask you how the transit system is working now given our covid crisis you had updated us i guess a couple of weeks ago and we've had a couple of letters from folks concerned about social distancing but also about um our ability to pick up all of our riders in a timely way uh wondering uh if you could respond to that and just let us know how the how the system is fairing certainly uh so we've implemented uh masks and face coverings for all of our frontline staff who are out in the field in operations so they all have the benefit of that personal protective equipment we've also implemented some new maximum capacity standards for our go Durham bus service so we're now using 16 people 16 passengers as the number so there is some discretion for operators if there's someone in a significant need to go beyond that but operators are generally adhering to that 16 people per bus we've designated seats uh along the bus to ensure that we can maintain appropriate social distancing as as you mentioned that does create an issue of when when the bus reaches capacity the destination sign lights up that the bus is full and that puts us in a position of not being able to serve riders that stops once the bus reaches that capacity so what we're doing right now is evaluating options where we could send a follow-on vehicle behind that bus as a way to pick up riders who would not otherwise be served and we're also looking at reevaluating service levels where we potentially have some routes where service frequencies are not uh generating uh high loads and we might be able to reduce service frequencies in those areas and use that to increase frequencies on the routes where we're seeing higher loads so that analysis is underway and if we can identify opportunities to increase service frequency on the route seeing crowding or develop alternatives to serve those router riders we'll be working to implement those thank you that's very helpful I really appreciate that any other questions or comments for Mr Egan or Mr Kane thank you all very much we appreciate it thank you Councilmember Freeman I'm sorry did I miss you go ahead can you hear me now we can I was I was just trying to understand are when you explain it are you are you saying that hold on one second are you we can hear you Councilmember are you saying that when when the the decision was made that once the bus got to 16 passengers that you would pass by because that was the comment that was made and and one email that you would pass by passengers on the side and if they needed to get to work they were just left on the side of the room what the best that that is unfortunately the result of the need to maintain social distancing on the buses if we're not able to address crowding and maintain appropriate social distancing we're exposing potentially our passengers and very harsh they have to additional risk so appreciate that any other questions or comments from Mr Egan or Mr Kane and how many um thank you how much notice was given prior to that thank you okay Councilmember Freeman I'm sorry did I miss you I think we're hearing your someone's recording maybe ma'am clerk are we hearing the recording on our wrong just trying to understand are you Councilmember Freeman hang on one second okay ma'am clerk I think we're hearing the recording uh or someone's recording of the session it is not my recording I'll check with public affairs okay here you councilmember okay are you saying that when the decision that once the bus got to 16 passengers that you would pass by because that was the comment that was made and we're hearing some kind of record passengers I think the recording is coming from Bijana from your you have a device playing the meeting from a streaming service or that is YouTube may be the result of a need to maintain social distancing on the buses if we're not able to okay so yeah so so yeah that understanding is correct so what we had initially been doing was asking our operators to use their judgment and discretion to manage they thought that that it was an appropriate level how much notice the passengers were given and if they were given any notice prior to that happening because it's pretty hard to to plan your travel especially if you're going to work without enough notice so what we've been trying to do is use our social media and other communications channels to get the word out about this but we we are have not been able to get as much notice as we would normally do if we were doing a policy change because of the dynamic environment that we're in but we're hoping to use all of our communications channels including folks who are tuning into this to let them know to be prepared for that and that we're taking steps to try to minimize the occurrence of that right now but that that is a requirement that we're facing right now and can you also make sure to use the engaged Durham folks who are already in the community to get that message out as well so you should be talking to the folks in neighborhood improvement services absolutely thank you thank you other council members yeah i i want to stress the importance i think of getting these additional follow-on vehicles or whatever it's going to be because we all know how important this service is and you guys i'm very proud that we've been able to maintain the service under difficult circumstances and that we're protecting our riders and our our um and our frontline workers but i hope that you all can come up with a solution that will enable us to be able to pick up everybody that needs to get picked up in a more timely way i know it's hard to do it i know it's resource intensive as well but i think it's important understood thank you other comments questions for mr egan or mr kane thank you all so much we appreciate you thank you thank you all right i now i believe we're circling back to madame clerk uh had raised the issue in her priority item of the meetings of our boards and commissions um i'll summarize what i know um and then i think we should talk about how we want this to take place and i'll look to the advice of my colleagues we need to come together and figure something out we have various boards and commissions some of who've been meeting kind of informally uh for example i know the mares hispanic latino committee met informally to make some proposals to us about how we can communicate uh in spanish and to our latinx community during the covet crisis the environmental affairs board is a joint city county group they very much want to meet i believe that um bpac also is a group that wants to meet and i know that some of our others want to meet as well um and i think we've already had meetings of groups that are um more mandated to meet for example the hsac which is as a federal mandate has been meeting so we need to figure this out and i think that we would all like to figure out a way for our boards and commissions to move forward i think that some of the issues are public comment potentially public participation i'm sorry public access potentially public comment and participation those are those are issues that have to be sorted out whether or not we want groups to use the same platform um if so what is that platform or are we because these groups are more or some of them are quite ready to get going on their own on their own platform should we make that available to them uh there is the issue of some members of some of these groups a minority of groups with some members having uh access themselves in terms of technology and then there's also the the fact that we don't want to burden we can't we cannot burn our staff with a whole lot of work around this we have so many commissions and committees that our staff could not possibly um do a whole lot of work to get all these groups set up and rolling um so we need a we need a solution that is pretty that is user friendly for the groups themselves so there's other some of the thoughts that i have after talking this over with uh with the clerk and uh with the city manager uh and and uh with some of the people on the committees and commissions and those are my thoughts and i wondered if you all would like to add your thoughts uh and and uh also and then maybe after we do that we'll we'll hear from staff uh after they've heard the responses of council anyone like to start us off council member freeman can you hear me just me uh i just um i wanted to ask the clerk exactly how many committees we have overall because i don't i don't want to set any precedent where um some committees are meeting and some aren't i know that you mentioned some are federally mandated to meet if there aren't any federal mandates why would this not wait until we were back open i mean at least till the city hall was back open so i'll answer that uh the answer to that would be because there are a lot of these committees and commissions that really want to meet and start doing their work uh that's like the people that want to go to the beach and georgia there's going to be people that well they want to be issue but i think they want to be digitally they don't want to meet in person they want to meet online and what happens if the folks on the committees don't have online access i mentioned that and that would be something we would need to figure out i mentioned that as an issue i agree it is an issue but is there any is there any numbers to to support what like i don't know what we're how many committees how many folks have access to them like is anybody asked any of these questions to know where a majority of the folks are how the breakdown works like it would be nice to have more numbers in the conversation well we certainly know how many committees and commissions that we have uh we certainly know that some of them meet only irregularly some of them meet once a month uh and we also know that there's some that are really uh where we are more appointing members to other groups we don't have any idea of how many people on each group may or may not have access to the technology i'm sure it's a minority of the members but we would need to find that out councilmember middleton thank you mr mayor thank you college can you hear me um i um and it may be coincidental but it seems to me that the the groups that have been most expressive about wanting to resume their work have been ones that they felt that they've had some something bested in the upcoming budget process which is totally uh uh fine and appropriate i don't see anything wrong with that but it seems to the most vociferous have been those that have something pending before us um i would be comfortable with the language of authorizing and encouraging our boards and commissions to meet i would be cautious about the language of mandating them because i i don't want to trigger any um attendance requirements during this period uh people that participate in boards and commissions that they can get online and um you know if they have the same type of internet problems i've been having i wouldn't want that held against them in terms of attendance but i would certainly be open to authorizing and encouraging our boards and commissions using whatever platforms are available to them to meet uh but i would want to just stay away from the language of mandate during this period uh and not trigger any any attendance requirements so i think that's i think that's a that's a great point council member caballero also i think that each i think to your point council member middleton some of the folks you know i think um eab in particular they do have things that they have that are more pressing so maybe there could be guidelines sent which are we're encouraging you take an internal poll of your members to find out how many people have access and if it is clear that most of the folks on that board don't have access then maybe they shouldn't move forward um and that um it is all optional and that attendance isn't going to be held against any member thank you uh yeah i'm taking notes here and i'm appreciating all of these comments thank you madame pro tem thank you um one thing that i think we need to be really careful about is making sure that public meeting um laws are followed and public access requirements are met for all of the boards and so it might make sense to have um some sort of i mean i'm trying you know we have to we have to come up with some sort of system where public access can be maintained zoom of course is a free platform where you can publish the details to get into your meeting but for the free version of zoom you only get um 40 minutes and also there you know is this trend of folks zoom bombing um open meetings right so someone is going to have to have enough technical expertise to know how to how to run a zoom meeting how to kick out someone who's interfering or disrupting the meeting um so i i feel like there's some amount of training that we would have to give to boards or at least a representative of the board maybe like a technology chair or something who could learn how to how to run the meetings um our clerk's office has already published details for a couple of meetings um on zoom that our boards and commissions are having um so we could you know just ask them to continue to do that as part of the reporting process but we've got to figure out how to make sure we got to make sure people know what that the but the meetings have to be public and that they have to follow that they have to follow that law and yeah i think um polling the members to see who's got digital technology available to them to make those meetings work is a great idea i also you know i'm concerned about attendance requirements for us honestly four of us have young kids at home they're not at school um in the you know time that i was on mute on a previous call my six year old screamed for 45 minutes so like i mean there there's just a lot happening right now um so i don't want i think it's great if groups want to meet it's great if they you know want to continue to contribute i i want their contribution i want things to continue at the same time i don't want to burden anyone um right now with with work that they might feel like they have to um so i i would be um i'm cautiously in support i would say with some with some trainings and and some caveats thank you let me make a suggestion um i think what would be good at you all have outlined a lot of good thoughts everybody has contributed some very important ideas about authorizing and encouraging uh but not but not uh requiring these meetings to pick up your language councilmember middleton the internal poll about access i think it's important polling the members about their technology and figuring out a way that groups can get technology to those members that don't have it that want to meet um public meeting requirements uh not having attendance requirement during this time and having some sort of a tech expert that can make the meetings happen and there may be other things i wonder if we could uh madam mayor pro tem can i volunteer you to try to help write up a series of guidelines um and maybe another another would any other colleague like to join her uh in doing that councilmember cabrero was that did you raise your hand that would be great if the two of you all wouldn't mind writing up some guidelines um you know in the next few days um say about early next week that we could make available to our boards and commissions and committees and maybe once you have them written up share them with the administration and with the with the clerk's office and the attorney and just see if there are any concerns that they have so that we can get those out to our boards and commissions and also for those of you all who are more tech savvy than i am which would be all of you um would you have any recommendations about what we ought to say about um a platform um should we recommend a single platform should we let people use the platform that they that they're sort of internal technology person on their committee is most comfortable with or i see the city manager is popping up and may have a thought well mr. mayor of the technology solutions department has issued um a city-wide directive about two platforms that should be used either microsoft teams or zoom for a variety of reasons they've done a lot of research and that that's the recommendations that we are requiring of our staff and following um i'm sure there i know you know there there are others in fact yesterday the homeless services advisory committee utilized a different platform than that that we'll have to go back and address but just wanted to mention that the technology solutions has recommended that and i actually put forth a a definitive uh notice to these employees that they should be using one of those two platforms for a variety of reasons thank you very much that's very helpful councilmember milton do you have a comment i thought i saw your hand no okay councilmember reese and then councilmember cabillero thank you mr. mayor um i just want to uh add my voice to those who are expressing some um skepticism about certain groups being ready and eager to move certain committees and more to the point certain members of certain committees to be ready to move forward with meeting without any kind of sense of how widespread the availability is for all members of all committees to engage in these processes i think um if there's one thing i've learned over the last three weeks it's that the world we're in now is conducive to allowing some people to participate in these processes and some people not to and um i just say that to say that also that um were i on a board committee and commission right now and trying to do a full-time job and trying to homeschool my kids um uh that would not work for me no matter what my technological situation is and just by virtue of the fact that i had a job i've got kids i cannot now participate in this commission while others certainly can and presumably will if we issue guidelines that seems problematic to me um on the other hand i get that there are commissions and committees that want to operate but i wish somewhat akin to what council council member freeman said i wish we could like ask why is that really important right now um and you know for people like that for groups like the planning commission and the board of adjustment i mean they have to meet and we're the technology is going to have to get figured out but for other groups that are purely advisory right now i just i hope that we can um be more cautious and understand that uh that just because there are folks on committees who are eager to go forward not everybody's in the same situation and i worry that we risk leaving some folks out of the important work of these committees and commissions because of the situation we find ourselves in so that i just wanted to add those comments appreciate very much the mayor pro tem and councillor cabillero for stepping into the breach to offer to navigate these waters with us with staff with uh our board's committees and commissions and hope we can arrive at an answer that works for everybody thank you sir thank you very much i do uh councillor cabillero i'll get to you in just a second but one i just uh one of the um i think that one of the reasons that i've heard from there are a couple different reasons that i've heard from people about meeting one of them for example with the mayor's Hispanic latino committee they really felt that they had an important mission at this moment um and they really wanted to communicate with us about how the city and our community is communicating with our latinx residents and our non-english speakers so um but i've also heard from people who are on these groups that um this is a way for members of the groups to it's a way to both connect and do something meaningful at this time if and i that's one of the things i've heard is that people are uh looking for uh you know from a couple people who want to meet who very explicitly said uh our folks want to make constructive contribution uh we feel like this is a way to do it so just want to throw that into the mix councilmember cabillero i can follow up in the email councilmember freyman i want to um just add to the comments and just note that um i appreciate councilmember middleton and cabillero um sharing some ideas on how to make it more equitable but i really appreciate um councilmember reese's points around how inequitable we continue to be and the weight just continues to fall on folks who do um have to split their time and it starts to feel kind of intentional in a way that i've seen repeatedly and so i'm just i'm a little um pushback on this and it's it's consistently coming in a direction that that feels very uncomfortable so just noting that um there's a dis ease of folks around busyness and it's almost like a disease and people need to be busy doing and and involved and i don't think that that when we don't take into account how how much is going on in this healthcare crisis we miss how many folks are losing family members how many folks are actually experiencing this in a way that's not conducive to just continuing like business is normal like it's not going to get we're not there yet and we keep pushing to be there and it's frustrating people are experiencing this and and really hard ways i mean the bus is passing them by on the sidewalk trying to get to work and there's just so much so much that feels un unheard in this in this conversation and i'm i'm just just sitting with it and trying to figure out how to make it more clear that we have to slow down and we need to regroup on what the priorities are thank you council member i hear you and i appreciate the comments council member middleton thank you mr mayor um you know every every once in a while i'm reminded of just um what makes me proud to be part of this group and every single one of my colleagues has expressed something that i think is absolutely critical to this conversation across the gamut of what we need to consider um and i think it was uh you mr mayor who said something at our last meeting about a desire for normalcy and and where people can grasp more in the normalcy that's kind of the psychology of coping with the crisis we we try and find as much normalcy as possible um i i think all taking into consideration all that's been been said i um i think where people can do things and then we know we've got different abilities we have different levels of access and and so folks ability to stay normal is going to look different from other people depending upon what their their station in life is which is why i think again the language of of authorization and encouragement might be as far as i'd be willing to go right now and it's incumbent upon us for those that have access if if we get any type of input on the budgetary process and we know that it's from a committee that we've encouraged to meet but we also know that there may be some members that haven't been able to plug in fully i think it's incumbent upon us to kind of couch that and contextualize that knowing that you might be speaking for certain members on your committee or board but we recognize that in this context everyone may not have may not have been able to plug in and we're not penalizing folk who aren't able to plug in and we're not going to add more credence to those that were as well so i think us as the the ultimate leadership group in the city you know it falls to my a good friend of mine said we have to do with heart and i think one of the things we have to do that's hard is make sure that we maintain guardianship and maintain vigilance that those that can access right now aren't given more weight than those that that cannot and that's hard but i think well we're gonna have this have to you know do that so again i'll just reaffirm i would be comfortable with encouraging folk i know folk aboard folk want to stay involved in and and you know and if you god bless you if you have the ability to do so to stay involved and reach out and get on these platforms i certainly would not discourage it but i i don't want to mandate it either um so with that said for whatever that's worth i would be comfortable with us going that far encouraging and authorizing but certainly not mandating so thank you i would thank all of you for you've all said something in this in this discussion that i think really crystallizes uh uh all that we have to take into consideration so very proud to be part of this discussion thank you great thank you very much uh councilmember caballero yeah so hearing you know the variety of the opinions that we have on this i think what makes sense to me is that we attempt to draft guidelines that kind of encompass all the views that i'm hearing uh and then get feedback from y'all and if there's consensus around that we move forward and if there's not then we just maintain what we're doing right now which is folks are not having their board and commission meetings uh mayor pro tem sorry some of them are though like some boards have just decided to go ahead and meet so we need to we need to figure out like what our standard is um yeah yeah and i think that could also be in the guidelines so that other boards if they're saying oh well why is planning commission figuring out how to meet because their responsibility is is is is is different than say another board and so that should also be included so that there's consistency throughout yeah agreed and there are some boards for example the participatory budgeting steering committee has already set up a remote option which they've been using to meet germ housing authority how already has a remote already had like a remote calling option so there are some boards that are going to be better prepared to kind of shift into this um into this mode than others i also want to um i i think we can figure out a system that that's going to work for folks there are also people on our boards who for a variety of reasons might be better able to contribute now that things are going remote than they were when we were requiring people um to actually physically come to meetings or you know people with disabilities or people who have difficulty with transportation who might be better able to participate in a remote meeting um and we've i've had conversations on some of my boards about opening up remote options for people who aren't able to come we've had the conversation about um stipends for people on board on commissions to make access easier so i feel like this is kind of the the viral situation has brought this to ahead but i feel like this is part of an ongoing conversation about how we run boards and commissions and how do we make sure that the highest number of people can participate how do we create more equity and in participation and so that can also be part of the um conversation that Javier and I are going to have and the guidelines that we put forward um around what how we move forward in this in this situation but also as we get back to whatever normal looks like on the other side of it thank you i would say um just you're making me think about um so for a group like the Durham Housing Authority i don't think we need to speak in a way you know they're doing it right um yeah okay uh councilmember Reese i just wanted to point out that just now um we received an email from our clerk that set out some of the things that are currently happening with our boards and commissions that are that as the mayor approach and said are actually going forward with sorry about the digging going forward with with meetings and um some of the work that our clerk's office is currently doing has already done and is doing now about public notice for those so encourage folks to take a look at that because i just skim through it and it's very well done and very informative so i want to thank the clerk for putting that together for us and encourage us all to take a look at that think about kind of what that means going forward thanks thank you very much all right i think we've done it um i'm looking forward to our little committee advising us and and helping the clerk and all figure it out thank you let me just one other um what this makes me think of one other thing so vernetta um had of course a lot of committee assignments as we all do and my plan had been to uh simply reassign to the new person all of her committees and commissions which is still what i'm planning to do in the interim uh i just want you all to know that if there any pressing needs for the groups that on which she fills a role that i may be asking some of you all to step in on a temporary basis so just give me all the heads up on that i don't think it'll be much but it may be some mr mayor just real quick i think the biggest need we're going to have as you well know is on the npo um and that's where vernetta's absence is in my mind anyway felt most acutely i guess between that and and the legislative committee um but that's a little bit longer term i know that the npo is planning to meet during the i guess the second week in may or first half of may i'll say um i don't know what form that meeting will take but mr mayor as the alternate um we have her historically relied on you but i don't think it's fair to ask us ask you to fill that role between now and whenever we move forward on the appointment so that was just one i wanted to put a plug in for as i'm sure it's already on your mind so thank you probably not on my mind as much as it ought to be but i appreciate your mention in that and let's uh well let's talk about that uh the two of us charlie thank you all right um councilmember freeman just noting before we move um beyond the conversation on the committees um i'm here in the conversation of equity but i would love to know how that's going to be tracked and making sure that that information is gathered as well okay uh well uh we'll leave that to our committee to try to recommend that to uh you know give us some thoughts about that uh how are we going to make sure that the people who are that everybody's able to access the technology and so forth and to let us know that and the notes from the meetings that have already been had are included as well yeah i don't know uh what the status of those is but uh i assumed that we could find out any other comments all right thank you all madam clerk thank you for raising this and uh councilmember caballero and mayor pro tem thank you for taking it i believe now we're down to the part of our meeting where we're going to hear from the clerk about the uh the um people who have the ballots of the various committees and commissions good afternoon everybody we do have some results on the city council nominations and before i get started i just wanted to make sure that with our new configuration of six council members that the prevailing nomination will take four votes yes just want to make sure everybody is understanding of that okay item item two council has nominated um here again we we don't have four votes on the citizen advisory committee and i will read you the the vote tally if you would like to approach it that way uh dr monique holsey hyman received three votes rachel eberhardt one vote and carl newman two votes okay ma'am was i one of the carl newman votes yes you were mr mayor is it appropriate at this time for me to change my vote uh to the candidate who received three votes that we have an appointee for nominations yes it is then thank you so thank you thank you member council member so madam clerk will nominate miss uh halsey yes dr monique halsey hyman thank you just to be clear friends i'm i meant to i had to send a corrected ballot last night that was the one that i forgot to do and i apologize that's my fault i'll do better next time okay thank you for that council member reese item three um council has nominated the following individual shyla napier to the university student facility vote um she received four votes however the transportation planning policy nominee um we are tied at two votes for jenna beckman and two votes for jasmine joiner um niles barnes received one vote and council member freeman um has no vote so if we want to shift votes we can do that apparently okay thank you um i voted for niles barnes and he's the best candidate but i guess he only got one vote uh so um i hope we will one day put him on this group he is an incredible uh advocate but all right um anybody want to make the cattle i i i i'm agnostic about the other so anybody want to make the case for uh miss beckman or miss joiner which one is this one apac i'm sorry this is the germ bicycle and pedestrian advisory commission it's the transportation planning policy vacancy and so far jenna beckman has received two votes from johnson and reese and jasmine joiner has received two votes from caballera and middleton uh jasmine joiner and jenna beckman yes those are the two that are tied madam clerk did i don't have a vote you can you can put votes for vote for them you've already voted for one uh madam clerk i'm happy to change my vote to miss joiner okay i'm happy to do that as well yeah all right thank you all right thank you very much madam clerk i i think that i voted for miss joiner in the other category so this yeah so it's a little confusing when they're when they're the same folks who are running in who are in both sections just we figure it out but in the future maybe we should do something okay duly noted duly yeah i i also voted for her in the other one okay okay we got it let's move on yes okay item four council has reappointed the following two individuals brawnwood charlton and brant smith to the Durham city county appearance commission thank you item five council's nominated um the during open space and trails commission at large position to be re-advertised they didn't know nominate re-advertisement but it's being re-advertised yes item six council has nominated um nicole oxen dine and chuck katati uh nicole is representing arts and culture and chuck is representing facility management for the Durham performing arts oversight committee thank you that has passed for the Durham workers rights commission each of the individuals have been nominated um there were seven on the ballot and there were seven positions open thank you and finally for the participatory budgeting steering committee there is a tie between cesar angiano Ortiz and ashley steward each of them have both received three votes for ward two could you tell me who i voted for mayor you have voted for ashley steward yeah i'll switch my vote okay okay thank you and then for ward three there's another tie between shawn alamonte and victoria bright each of them have received three votes shawn alamonte was voted for by johnson reese and caballero anybody uh want to switch their vote on this one mr mayor i'll switch my vote all right thank you council member middleton thank you and all right uh go ahead ma'am claire for the recreation advisory commission we have three votes for cedric burke and then one vote each for con reyher and sundra morty the council members who voted for burke are reeshul and johnson would anyone else who voted for one of the other three like to give their vote fourth vote to uh council member freeman all right council member freeman is giving her vote to mr burke okay thank you very much and that does it all right council members thank you for your flexibility and cooperation we know we get a lot of good applicants and i think we have a good process of working with each other thank you okay madam clerk thank you for that um and now we'll settle the agenda mr manager thank you mr mayor before we uh announced the settlement of the agenda did want to remind everyone that we do have a special budget work session tomorrow afternoon uh beginning at one o'clock i think it's currently scheduled for about three hours i'm not sure it'll take that long it might but it will be back on this platform and and it will be televised as well but just wanted to bring that reminder to your attention and then to settle the agenda we have all items on consent items one through four six through thirteen and seventeen through twenty thank you mr manager can i have a motion that we settle the agenda the move and seconded that we settled the agenda per the manager's recommendations all in favor please raise your hand all opposed the motion passes unanimously the agenda is settled i believe that that is all the business to come before this meeting and so i'm going to declare it adjourned at two thirty p.m and i look forward to seeing all of you all tomorrow at one o'clock on the same platform the lunch be served tomorrow i look forward to be delivered up my foot porch i well i had that i had that hot dog and i can recommend that you make yourself one before you may have to do it okay good to see you guys thanks everybody see you tomorrow