 open everyone to kick it off if anyone's got questions for Jodi and we can go from there. Okay, I always have questions. I know we love you for that, John. It's awesome. I'm like, I always count on John for good questions. Yes. Thank you. I don't know how familiar Jodi is with the Gitcoin grant program that they do on a quarterly basis where they deploy a quadratic funding model. Jodi works with Gitcoins, so she's a pro. She's okay. Yeah. I've labored through the process a little bit and managed to get a profile up. And as I understand it, they had a first round or I'm not really clear on how the rounds work. It was first round, there's a second round, and I believe they're in a phase either a first or second round right now between the 15th and the end of the month. And so we got a profile up and I take it, that profile displays what our project's all about and everything. And then it goes into a live model and then it crowd funds. I guess the platform itself crowd funds and then somewhere along the way quadratic funding enters into the fold. And they match funds if that phase is done. I just need to, I'm not very clear on how it all works soup to nuts and just going from one part to the next. And I was wondering if Jodi or anybody could Annie or anybody could offer some light on that, show us some light on that. Yeah, John, thanks for the question. I, so just a little bit of background, I left Gitcoin in official capacity back in at the end of March of this year and I understand that I'm following grants round 19 now. So there might be slight variations between what I tell you and the rules from the public goods funding work stream that's managing the round, but I can absolutely share an overview of how it generally works. And hi for those who've joined Jade. Nice to meet you. I'm joining from New Delhi tonight. So it's good to see all of you. To answer your question, John, generally speaking, it sounds like you as a grantee have placed a, put up a profile about your project on the website and I'm assuming that it's approved. It's in general on the Gitcoin grants program when they run around each project has to meet the eligibility criteria of the specific round that they're running. As an example, if you place a profile up that explains a sustainability project, you must meet the criteria that they step for that round for that grants round to be eligible to receive any of the matching funds through that round. Assuming that you've done that and they've approved you and you're live and you're set and ready to go and receiving funds, what ends up happening is that donors go through the grants portal and actually can filter and find your projects. Sometimes they're highlighted in specific ways by the marketing team, the various projects in the platform. Donors will come to your platform and decide to give money in the background, the quadratic funding model is actually working so that as donors give to a specific grant, it's basically keeping a tally of the individual donors that are giving to that grant. And then subject to how many individual donors are giving to that grant, quadratic funding is working to match additional funds from Gitcoin partners to that specific grant. That tally takes a while. So the grant round this year is running from I think it just started last week and it'll run for two weeks. So two Fridays from now, I think that's probably December 2nd is probably December 2nd or December 1st is when the grants round will end. From there, the grants team is going to work to tally all of the various votes or donations in your grant. And about a week or two weeks after that, the matching funds will actually be added and added to the total for your grant. And the sum total of what you got in individual donations plus the matching funds from the partners will be transmitted to your organization. So that's generally how it works. But like in the background, they're looking at each of the individual donors or wallets that are contributing to a grant and working to match the funds using quadratic funding. Does that make sense? Yeah, in our case, we're qualifying under the Commons category, which means we don't have open source software project or anything like that. Is it an education grant? Is it like an education project? Correct. Largely an education. In the profile itself, we didn't go into a lot of detail as far as the budget and all that. I don't know how all that works either. I've have gone through some of the tutorials and they're just, they're still open questions as to how the whole process works. And just trying to get the big story, the big picture here. And our wallet is connected and all that. And that's where we get that phase. But they talk about renounce. Is there any vetting process that takes place between the time, between now and December 2nd, as you refer to, along that phase? So each round that they run, so there's the community Commons, there's the infrastructure. And I think there's a third round that they're running in GR 19. And I can't remember it off the top of my head. Apologies. But there are round managers, often like more than one, like a round manager and some assistant round managers, let's just say, that are going through each of their, they're assigned to, say, the community Commons, they're going through embedding each of the profiles during the round. I think they, in previous rounds, they've set a deadline for reviewing grantee applications by, I'd say, the Wednesday after the round starts. And unfortunately, in the past, the only way to tell if you're round is if you've been deemed eligible for the round is to go back and check your profile. They are available to answer questions using support at getcoin.com or by using the support discord channel to just ask the question, can somebody help me figure out if my round is live? And that's a way of just verifying. But usually you have to wait until you have to give it a couple days to make sure that you're you've met all the criteria. And if you have follow up questions, you can basically just ask like why your grant was it made eligible? But it's usually it takes a couple days. But if you had everything up on the your profile by the start of the grant, usually just takes two to three business days for them to verify that you've met the eligibility criteria for your profile to go live and start receiving donor donations. Sorry, I'm a little time traveled a bit in the last 24 hours. It's Monday. It's Tuesday. It's midday Tuesday right now where you are. Okay. Midday Tuesday. By midday tomorrow, if you haven't heard, I would probably if you're already on the discord, I would go to the support section of the discord and ask a question. Just ask to see like how much more time they need to verify your your profile. Is there any onus on fundraiser to make a donation anywhere or anything like that? None. It's it's meant to be community led and for folks to upvote and you should highlight amongst your community that your grants is live and that they should donate. But no, largely the goal is for the grant to be live. Depending on the narrative that you've told, usually community folks who are looking for specific things to donate to usually go through the profiles and decide to spread their donations among a few organizations that they really like. And then those donations will filter through along with the matching funds toward at the end of the grants round. Now, a part of that is also making a connection to Twitter, your Twitter account as well as the means of verifying that you're a real person. Yes. That's okay. All right. If you're on Twitter, you should absolutely feel free to say like, when you get the yes, your profile is live. There's you should go on Twitter and say, Hey guys, I have this great project that I'm contributing to and leading would mean a lot if my community would donate to it with big denominations or small ones. And all of those folks that choose to donate are essentially contributing to your quadratic funding, what you end up getting at the end of the grants round. And there's also, is there not also a telegram channel that provides tech support as well? There may be, John, but again, I couldn't give you the details of that because I'm not at Gitcoin anymore. I can ask, but I can ask around. I have a friend that still works there. And if I can get your contact information, maybe I can connect you to the telegram account that would that be helpful? Yes. I would also be wary that a lot of scams happen on telegram. So even within authentic telegram channels, that scammer might come in and then direct message you and be like, Hey, I hear you're having trouble. I'm with Gitcoin. Give me your wallet address and send me this. And you can get scammed quite easily there. So I would just be extra cautious. I prefer Discord. I'd like being admitted to the Gitcoin Discord means that you've been verified. And then going through that channel for getting super seeking support usually helps you and will definitely help you avoid the scammers. Okay. And that Gitcoin server is called Gitcoin Grants. It's called Gitcoin Dow. And then there's a section within that when you scroll through the sub layers of the Discord, there's a support section. It's usually at the bottom of the Discord, or it was at least when I was there. And you can submit a support ticket that way. Okay. Thank you. It's very helpful. Appreciate it. No problem. Good luck. Welcome. Do you want to plug your grant? I would love to hear more about your grant. Maybe the folks on this call might want to donate. Sure. Absolutely. Basically, the mission of our organization is to provide community resilience, greater resilience and disasters, natural man-made disasters. As a consequence of that, there are health impacts that occur in natural man-made disasters, not to mention migrations of people. And the project itself would largely bring awareness of the necessity, the critical sensitivity that populations have to disasters and their health impacts. And so there's a lot of potential in Web 3.0 that could cope these populations with preparedness and storing medical documents and things like that in the cloud and the blockchain. And so that's what we're looking at is bringing greater awareness to these populations and to NGOs around the world that the potential blockchain technology in Web 3.0 has, particularly to store medical information and make that in the ready for those who do have mobile phones and smartphones. And so that's what we're trying to educate people about. And then it breaks down the communities. We break in our profile, we break down the different communities that are highly vulnerable to disasters. And what's it called? It's called the dare to prepare project. Awesome. That's really cool. Thanks. I'm glad. Yeah, that's so necessary. I've worked on two resiliency projects, one after Hurricane Sandy and then really now I'm working with an organization in North Carolina in the United States that is trying to rebuild after Hurricane Maria. Their levies just never worked. And now they have to rebuild this entire community. So much just history is lost from in those natural disasters, let alone just like important documentation, social security cards, driver's licenses, et cetera, birth certificate that make it hard to do everything from secure another driver's license to voting in many cases. So that's a really important project in my opinion. Thank you for that. If you have a link to the grant profile, maybe you can share it in the chat. Well, let's see here. I should have, and I've got to find out on your own time. Right now, I'm not clear whether the profile is live or the profile is not live. So I'm trying to figure out where that sits, but no pressure. And but I will put up a PPS documentary, a short documentary they did on the vulnerability of special needs populations to disaster should people with access and functional needs. So we'll get a link into the chat on that. A great little piece on it. Sure. Thank you. Thank you. I'm going to have to round, see if I can find that while others are asking questions. Larry Jade, iPhone 873, do you guys have any questions for Jodi? Anything you're not clear about on blockchain in general, or want to talk about your organization in particular? They're happy to take your questions. Starting again late, I'm still getting horny to the video, but I'll just listen until I can see something until I will say this is the perfect opportunity to say completely unintelligent things. We're all friends here and Jodi in particular is a super great resource for explaining the basics of everything. There's anything in particular you don't understand. Definitely go for it and we can walk you through it. So that's no barriers there. Jade, do you have any questions? iPhone 873 said that they definitely do understand the blockchain, so I would love to maybe be contacting you. That's a quiet group today. It's nothing wrong with that. Jade's saying, thank you. Just taking it in. Happy to be here. That's awesome. Jade, I don't know. If you're interested, do you want to tell us about your organization and we could maybe suggest some ways that you could incorporate blockchain into it? Sure. Is it okay if I keep my camera off? Yeah, of course. No problem. We love anonymity and that's a big thing. So I work at an organization in Los Angeles and we provide different wellness workshops for women who have been diagnosed with cancer. So we have day retreats and weekend retreats. We have free, just really tapping into the more alternative modalities that aren't necessarily approached, although they are starting to a little bit more now in the traditional medical field. All free. Yeah, it's a lot of fundraising, but really great work to be in. And how do you fund the organization? Is it just through donations through your website? Yes, so it's all private donors and it's yeah, all private, privately funded. So we have, right now we have a pretty select, like we have two major fundraisers that have pretty much the same invites every year and they've really sustained us where we were founded in 2005. And so yeah, we have had that like constant flow, but we are recognizing that we need to diversify and even how we fundraise. But currently, yeah, we have a handful of different events that allow us to fund that. That's awesome. We talked about at the end of last week's webinar, we did talk about a couple of organizations in Web3 that allow organizations like yours to receive crypto donations through their websites. Eureka Pay was one of them and I'm forgetting the other one. It's givingblock.com and Eureka Pay and I'll drop the links into the chat. Yeah. So if you are active online, active on Twitter are promoting your organization regularly that way. There's always the opportunity to just amend your website to begin receiving crypto. And then the other ways the route that John is going, increasingly get coined through its protocol development is allowing, is creating a pathway for a lot of organizations to begin running their own grants round, own grants rounds, I should say. And there's a lot of information on their website about that protocol and the work that they're doing in order to, one of the, round manager is the technology that underpins it. So if ever you're interested in just like running your own kind of digital grants round that way and working within your own network to receive those funds, that's a way of doing it. It is just a little bit more intensive than passively integrating or receiving your crypto through Eureka Pay or the giving block, but that's another avenue. Or like John, you can run around that qualifies on through an organization like Gitcoin to receive it. Gitcoin tends to focus a lot more on education within crypto, like onboarding folks to crypto and, and infrastructure, the folks that are actually building in open source software that supports the Ethereum network. So that's the way where the lion share of the money that they raise through grants rounds go. And so maybe figuring out how to onboard to round manager and run your own rounds and create your own ecosystem through your community is another method of raising funds or passively receiving funds through Eureka Pay or the giving block is a third option. Anything you would add to that, Anne? I would definitely recommend starting with the past tense P. It's so easy to set up. It's really doesn't cost a lot of money to do. And because it's just like new revenue, sometimes it's easy to sell that to leadership to fail. It's in here's a new way we can get revenue. Let's give it a try. And then you can get a sense of, okay, is this something that crypto people are interested in donating to? And do we have a lot of crypto people in our community already that are giving? And then I think the answer to that is yes. And you're getting a lot of support from this niche of people. Then I would say upgrade to more of what John is doing or running your own rounds. But I think as a toe in the water, just passively accepting is a really easy way to get started. Hey, that's good to know. So what exactly is the process of for what John is doing? There's like a passive and active what's not really clear on that. Yes. So John can also, I think John could also draft jump in and just explain a little bit more of the process that he's been through thus far. But John is seeking funding through a Gitcoin round. Gitcoin runs grants rounds once a quarter. They over the last couple of years, Gitcoin has actually just developed a really strong community of folks with that are in the crypto space or Web 3 space that are interested in public goods funding. How you just like how you define public good is commonly upward to bid in crypto. But I think the thing that you need to know is that through these rounds and quadratic funding, which is like this wonky mathematical way of democratically distributing money through a grants round, they've raised money for really small projects through these rounds. The trick with Gitcoin is that it is community led. The community has decided with Gitcoin that they mostly want to donate to organizations that are educating and therefore onboarding more people into crypto and them learning more about the technology. They want to the second group of folks that Gitcoin tends to fund are folks that are building infrastructure for on the Ethereum network. So it's a lot of engineers that are building extensions and expanding the universe of what the Ethereum network do with ETH as the baseline cryptocurrency. And then the third place that they tend to give to more often than not is around sustainability initiatives. So organizations that are building on the blockchain projects that are either, I don't know, as an example, making our voluntary carbon credit market more less scanty. As an example, making the carbon credits trackable so you actually the projects that are being executed on the ground actually are worth what they are being charged on the volunteer carbon credit market. That's right. And those are just high level, the three categories that I've seen Gitcoin fund the most over several grants rounds. Because of the nature of their giving and like the fact that our community is most interested in giving to those three categories, Gitcoin has developed eligibility criteria to be featured in one of their grants rounds. As an example, John's project dare to prepare in order for it to receive funds from Gitcoin's community, it has to meet the eligibility criteria that point is set for that grants round, for that sustainability round. Once they've approved John's grant, John's project, then receives funds from the community through quadratic funding. And then through quadratic fund day, his project is matched so that whatever the donors have given Gitcoin's partners are going to match it that much more based off of popularity essentially. And it is a process to be approved and then receive the funds through Gitcoin. And that's why I said there is also this third option where you decide that you want to do the work of running your own round. That just requires more onboarding on both your part as an organization and because you're the one that is going to have to learn the technology to run the round and then to onboard your community to start receiving funds through cryptocurrency. And Anne's point is correct, right? Running your own round is definitely the most complicated one. I'd say trying to qualify for Gitcoin's grants round takes a little bit of time, but once you're in, you can receive funds that way as well. And once you've done it once, you know how to do it in subsequent quarterly grants rounds. Yeah, I'd like to think about Gitcoin as being like a version of Kiva where you pop on, there's a website, you can see hundreds of different projects that you can donate to, but all the donations happen in crypto. And then there's all this matching money that instead of matching it a dollar per dollar, there's like a different mechanism to support projects that have a lot of support from people, no matter how small the donations, rather than projects that have one or two guys donating a ton of money. So that's what it's like. I think that the really good thing about it is you can make we can make a lot of money, like for really small projects, as Jodi said, like for small projects, it's hard to get fun in places. This is a great way to do that. The downside is for nonprofits, you have to learn how to open a wallet and manage the private keys. And then you have to get somewhere, all the money you're going to get is in crypto. So you have to figure out how do you exchange that for local currency, which is all totally doable and not that hard, but it has to be done. And I always just say your first foray into crypto should probably not be get coin grants. It should probably be like one of the, yeah, third parties that will accept the crypto for you. Just get a sense of, yeah, it's just an easy way to start. And then once you start learning more about it, you can open an organizational wallet, figure some of that stuff out. That's probably how I would go about doing it. John, I looked up to your grant on get coin grants and I can't find it. So I don't think it is lives just to give you a heads up on that one. I would argue too, along the line, what's been talked about is if anyone's ever tried applying for a federal grant, talking about in the United States federal, the process you go through, do those are just onerous beyond belief, understanding logic models and things like that and having the expertise. And I could see how crowdfunding would be much preferable over applying for a federal grant. Not always, but because you have to have an understanding of outcome models, you have to be very particular as far as researching and notice the funding opportunity. The private foundations may be a little bit different, but if you're trying to seek federal funding, or in some cases, even state funding, I would much prefer this model fundraising or applying for grants over any of those just from what I've known. Having applied for federal grants, being awarded for federal grants and trying to understand that process, dealing with grants.go, dealing with whatever your state level processes are. As a early growing nonprofit, I would much prefer a crowdfunding model such as the way that get coin offers and formats it. Just my two cents on that. That's good to hear. I was afraid that you were going to say that coins process is as onerous as the federal government. And I was like, oh, that is like the opposite of that's what I was thinking to say to everybody. Do you have any thoughts? Oh, sorry. No, thank you for sharing that, John. I definitely sounds like that. Definitely is a learning curve and I'm still still learning about just in general, Web 3.0 and how it works and possibilities. But I think Ann's book is a great way to start that. Go on amazon.com and pitch your book in. It is a great book. Do you really give you an overview of Web 3.0, what it is, and how you can place your organization in a funding strategy or a funding opportunity in the Web 3.0 environment? Love a good plug. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, thanks, John. That's great. We dropped a link in the chat there for anyone that wants to take a look. It's specifically written for nonprofits and for fundraisers with zero knowledge of crypto. So it's a good starting point. I will definitely look into these. Any other questions for Jody? Oh, Lynn, go ahead. A little off topic of the fundraising, perhaps, but I was just curious if anybody read the Web 3.0 book yet by Alex Tapscott. He came through Vancouver last week and I had the opportunity to meet him, which is fun. And his dad, Donald Tapscott, was there at the same time. And I have a particular interest in what he's up to surrounding the social contract. But as I mentioned, I haven't had a chance to get into the book to find out if there's anything really changed or revealing from the areas that you're interested in. I haven't read it yet. Jody had a shot? No. No, I haven't. His first book definitely made the round quite significantly, particularly amongst business professionals, which was really good for legitimizing crypto, which at that point in time was still, this was probably like 2013. No, maybe not 2013. 2015, would you say, Lynn, maybe? Though it really helped, yeah, to make it seem more normal to the business crowd. Yes, definitely. He's an advocate. And it's also got that 9-point partner group that's in the crypto as well. I'm not knowledgeable and not into it at the moment, but I understand it's use and what-have-you and I'm patiently waiting for all this stuff to come together seamlessly. You don't have the issue of how to get onto a wallet and convert and back and forth. Reminds me of the old days, and when it went from web one to web two, could have fooled me. It just was the same thing going on and on. I don't know why we've had such a seemingly barrier or a hurdle to get over here in the three. I do appreciate the technical complexity and that sort of thing, but ultimately, most of the people that we talk to on these webinars are in the choir. They know everything about it. The majority of the users are not technical, and it's like driving a car. You don't really have to be a mechanic. I'm hoping that the book will have some light on that this is going to become a easier path. Thank you for sharing. Go ahead, Jay. You first. Oh, yeah. Just thank you for sharing that. I took note of the book. It really resonates just hearing the reminder. You can have as great of intentions as you want, but if you're not just actually allowing and just going along with and not having your own kind of pre-existing things get in the way, then it can be something. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I think I mentioned this a little bit last week on the webinar, but it's definitely one of the bigger barriers to adoption in web three. What you describe as web one and web two, just being the seamless experience where you didn't really feel like there was very much more that you had to grasp in order to use it, hasn't really made its way in creating a bridge between web two and web three. You see these things where in general, the folks that have designed web three have prioritized things like individual security and being able to manage self-sovereignty. Managing your own keys is just something that people aren't accustomed to doing. Hiding your seed phrase in a book on your bookshelf and remembering where you hit it is just not a natural way for surfing the web. Yet, that's how when you started off on web three, you had to manage your wallet. I wouldn't say resistant, but there is just a conversation and ongoing conversation that's happening around like, how do you benefit or do you build the technology to promote adoption or do you build the technology to prioritize self-sovereignty individual privacy? There's something that needs to happen in between in terms of the user interface to make it easy and seamless for people to use that hasn't happened yet, but I do see people building towards that direction. My husband worked at consensus for many years and a lot of the conversations that they even had around metamask wallet were just that. The reason why no one's adopting this is because it's actually hard to use, but it's moving in the direction that it should slowly. One would hope AI, if not even quantum computing, should be able to address some of these issues. And I agree with you about the technology that innovation should really respond to need as opposed to developing something and creating need. So I think the technical side of it, you can understand, they're on one side of the fence, but the higher level of it is that we have to bring everybody on board here. And so the idea of inclusion from no knowledge to highly technical knowledge, we all have to participate. I find it a little confusing that it seems to be tied up in the technical side, maybe it's still just early days and I'm expecting too much, but I'm not technical. At least I'm on here. I managed to do that. Lots of people, that would be a struggle. Lynn, you've been in the crypto space for eight years now. You are like, oh, gee, no. But not in the crypto side. You know, it's the finance side deliberately. I was more interested in the social applications of the technology. And that's why I said, Don Tapscott's social contractor, to me, is what it's all about. But the financial side, I have enough difficulty with normal fiat finance, let alone crypto, getting a little skeptical and not having a deeply deep pocket. But I'll get to it. No, you're great. You're great. You're the first person I would look to. Yeah. Lynn and I met at a meetup years and years ago. He's a pretty stable member of the crypto community in Canada. So he's being very humble right now. I would argue too that if you could take people from the known to the unknown, when I think of Web 3.0, I think of a cooperative governing model and then layer that on top or technology. And not everybody knows how cooperative works. You can look as far as REI and understand that, but more of a mutual governing model that is patterns after what Purdue, Joe, you would know a lot more about this than I would, but and then deal with the technology technologies. You'll run across developers who will tell you that it's all a bunch of hype and Web 3.0 is all a bunch of hype. And the fact of the matter is, it's using, if you understand web servers and you understand peer-to-peer web servers and you understand how co-ops work, you're well on your way understanding what Web 3.0 is. It's a democratic model, if they will, one of them, and a good one. And what the internet we're supposed to be bringing these two back together and sync is really important, I think, so that business models need to embed the cooperative form, if they're well. Yeah, so much of what you said just now, John resonated. There's so much that's hidden, buffering the layers of business speak. And just coming from the world of finance and real estate, everyone likes to hide between acronyms and these phrases for talking about the work that they do. But the ideas are actually fairly simple. And when you talk about it in plain terms, folks understand they get what you're trying to get at with the technology. And the technology should just enable that. So I think when you folks talk in terms of the work that they're trying to accomplish, it's clear as day. I think we are winding down a little bit now. We maybe have time for one last question if anyone's got something they want to ping Jody's brain about. All right. Next week, these sessions continue. So next week, we've got Robbie Greenfields, who is an incredible player in the blockchain space. He's been working on social impact application for many years now. So we'll have him, I believe, it's Wednesday. So he'd be great. And I'll hand it over to Billy for some last minutes, other information. But thanks for joining, folks. Yes, thank you. And thank you so much, Jody. Sorry, I missed the session last week. I was at Lab Week 23 in Istanbul. I wanted to just make a plug for a new thing. We're starting a message in chat, John, one to one, and then the group. But I want to just call it out. Basically, we want to take these conversations and go deeper with makers, people who are building projects like John is building his project. It sounds, John, you've been building your project for many weeks or months. And we're guessing that there are others like John that want to go even deeper than these group conversations to just narrow down on their project, maybe find mentors, maybe find new tools or custom solutions that they haven't considered. Maybe think about positioning the project for funding, more traditional philanthropic funding in addition to get going funding. We're putting together a series of fund around tables in the new year where we're bringing, TechSoup is bringing together a group of program officers from foundations around the country and maybe around the world to have a discussion about the next generation of funding technology projects in civil society. And surely we want to bring together a set of maker projects in front of those funders, whether it's in real time or sending those funding program officers, overviews of Web 3 projects in civil society. So with all that said, if you have any interest at all, if you're building something, or writing a proposal to build something in the case of many nonprofits, that's how we work. We write proposals before we build things. Typically, if we've been doing this for some years, we want to talk. And so in the chat, I've sent the details of my email and a little quick form, if you could fill out, and we'll get back to you to schedule a briefing about the Maker Studios. Thank you all for joining us. As always, for those return visitors, great to see you and hear from you. And thank you, Ann, for your guidance. Thank you, Jody, for your expertise. And thank you, Eli, for supporting all of this. Have a great one, and we'll catch you next time. Thank you all.