 Sam Erikat, you are the chief negotiator for the Palestinian Authority. Thank you for coming to WPC-TV. It's my pleasure. A simple, perhaps provocative question. Is the two-state solution dead? No. Why not? It's the only option. Because we haven't realized it, yes. But the facts that ever drove them to the Mediterranean, this is Palestine, historic Palestine, we have organized the State of Israel right to exist in peace and security on 78% of the slant. Yes. And we accepted to achieve our independence and statehood and the remaining 22% of the land for the two states, State of Palestine, to live side-by-side the State of Israel and peace and security. But at the same time you have a settlement process going on from the Israelis, which seems to defy all pressure from the international community. Well, I think the aim of Mr. Netanyahu's government is not to defy the international community, but to destroy the two-state solution. Yes. Mr. Netanyahu believes that he can replace the two-state solution with what I call one-state-two systems, upper- thrive. He believes that Palestinians should every morning pray to God to thank him that we're under Israeli occupation, that the Israelis are demolishing our homes, stealing our land, stealing our water, humiliating us, sieging us, killing us, destroying our infrastructures. And we should thank them for this simply because they have much more influence in Western parliaments, American Congress, Senate, media than us. We're going to talk about the American Congress. I mean, now you have the election of President Trump. Doesn't this make you more or less hopeful? I would have thought less. No, absolutely not. Nations are guided by their interests. I did not wake up one morning and felt my conscience aching for the suffering of Israelis that I sit with them to negotiate. I'm doing it because it's my national interest. And they did not wake up one morning and felt their conscience aching for my suffering that they sit with me. We both know that this conflict cannot be played in accordance with a zero-sum game. If we want two winners, the only option is a two-state solution. And Trump's administration would realize very soon that they will be guided by America's interests. And America's interests in this region means to achieve the two-state solution. A last quick question. Does the existence of Daesh, the Islamic State, ISIS, does it make things more or less difficult for you as Palestinians seeking a settlement? It makes it very difficult. As a matter of fact, I tell you why. Because number one, Daesh is a group of thugs and murderers who are using my great religion, Islam, for their evil ends. And as Arabs, we do not stand tall with courage to fight them intellectually, to fight their ideas, because you cannot kill ideas with bullets. You need bitter ideas. Secondly, Judaism to me as a Palestinian is not a threat, was never a threat. So I cannot find myself in a position whereby a group of thugs here are trying to turn this conflict into a religious one by the name of Daesh, and some thugs in Israel's side who are trying to turn the conflict into a religious one by claiming God to be a land broker. This is a political conflict. This is a conflict over territory, over politics, over nationalism. And I don't fight Israelis because I differ with something in their holy book. And they don't fight me because they differ with something in my holy book. So it's a forbidden area to enter. This conflict should not be turned into a religious conflict. And there are forces in both sides now that are trying to make this conflict religious. And if this succeeds, we're doomed. And you're doomed. Indeed, absolutely. So I better cut. Thank you very much. I wish you peace and prosperity at some point. I think Aba Aban once said, only peace is inevitable. But that was a long time ago. I think he's right. Inshallah, we'll get that. Thank you so much. Thank you.