 From Manhattan, it's theCUBE, covering AWS Summit, New York City 2017, brought to you by Amazon Web Services. Welcome back live to Midtown Manhattan, along with Stu Miniman. I am John Walls, we're here on theCUBE, and we're wrapping up our coverage here at AWS Summit. Again, kind of tough to get a feeling for just how many folks were here, but somewhere in that $7,000, $8,000 range. And most of them are still here, I think, out on the show floor here behind us. Good keynotes this morning, good programming throughout the day as well, and then really good buzz here on the show floor. So, good day, I think. Ready, W.S. Stu, and we've talked about it. It is kind of remarkable to see the number of people who turned out for a regional show. Yeah, John, you know, I've been to some shows at the Javits Center where people wander in, they get some swag, they look for a free beer and a t-shirt, and that's kind of there. These people are, you know, kind of digging in. I know there's a bunch of sessions been going on, the pavilion here has had all these little breakout sessions. There was one on VMware, and VMware on AWS, and it was not only the seats, which it was usually, it's like, oh, come on, come get a prize, and things like that. There was five rows of people standing, pressed in, and asking questions about like, and how do I set up the networking on this, how does this work, things like this. So, it's like a mini AWS re-invent. So, they're a big show, one, we've done the QBAT a number of years, I've been there a number of years, I commented on our intro that this is larger than the first Amazon re-invent that I went to, like four years ago. How about that, in that sort of period of time? Yeah, and that's one of the things about Amazon, and really just public cloud in general, and all these technologies, the growth and the speed of change is just amazing. It used to be, we talked from a software standpoint, it was like, okay, well, I'm tied to that Intel release of every 18 months that I'm going to click out. Then it was like, okay, we kind of go to a yearly cycle. Now, it was more like, well, not only is a lot of software released continuous integration and continuous deployment CICD, which sometimes it's every six weeks, sometimes it's daily, but Amazon's releasing new features every day. We had, we talked in the intro, it was like, oh, there were three major releases, and we had the guy on talking about the machine learning stuff, and he's like, oh, you mean the three announcements that we had in machine learning, and we're like, oh, we only heard about one of those, but you had a couple others underneath there. Oh, let's talk about the F1 compute instance and the FPGAs. There's always so much in Amazon. When you go into any environment in the little boxes that they put in there, and you start peeling the onion, it's just, it's impressive, and that's what, there's just depth and customers are interested in it, and people are using it. I was used to so much of my career where it's like something gets announced, and a year later it's like, hello, is anybody using this? As opposed to, at this show, a bunch of the announcements, I already talked to a bunch of people that have been in private beta, they've been testing this out there, they're excited about it, and because it's just so easy to get on all of these new features. Right, and you, I mean, we've seen it here, we've heard from many people here from a lot of different walks of life. You mentioned some of the past shows, AWS Public Sector, I was at that not too long ago in Washington DC, and you see a company that has its units very focused and very driven and doing very well, and they have the right relationships. Buzzword, serverless, right? You heard it a lot today, serverless applications, serverless computing, from more than one source, we heard it from several folks, and so obviously this is not just a popular piece of nomenclature for the day, this is a trend, a theme that's going to be evolving and maturing over the next year or two. Yeah, I mean, everybody, for the last couple of years, they've kind of been looking at it with their head sideways. I'm not sure that I understand it. We talked to two companies today. It was iopipe and a Cloud Guru that their company, their IT infrastructure, was all built on serverless. And they're both got funding recently, so this isn't just, oh yeah, some developer does some cool stuff on the side, microservices, buzz, buzz, things like that. We talked to, FICO is using serverless for their admin functions. Certain areas they're not ready to roll it out across the board, governance, compliance, things like that, I need to understand it. It is still very early, but that being said, there's a lot of usage in it. Last year it was, oh, if you want to develop for the Alexa platform, the Amazon Echo type thing, that uses serverless, so we're seeing lots and lots of cases that really is a new way of architecting the way to roll out really microservices driven applications. And when we talk about the big challenge of our time, is it's distributed architectures and how do I have new applications? We talked to a number of companies today, moving from the old way of doing my application to building new applications, that's the long pole in the tent. This is not something that happens overnight, but I can start playing with it in a much smaller form factor and do it for pennies, not years and millions of dollars. So, there is really, serverless is really, in many ways, eclipsed kind of the containers discussion for the hot buzz in the industry. Kubernetes fits into that whole picture, but not just serverless in general, but AWS Lambda is the leader of the pack out there. And yet another reason why Amazon's just going strong, the revenue's still doing well, keeps adding to what they're doing. And you don't hear many people griping when you walk around the show floor as to what they wish they had, or of course, yeah, it's just, it's very positive experience. Yeah, I mean you hear criticism saying, it only had 42% growth year to year. Yeah. Not what it used to be, but 42, as you know, most people would gladly be in that position. What about, and your thoughts about the maturation of the cloud? You mentioned transformative and things are evolving and growing, I mean, so where do you put it now? I mean, it's this second phase, next phase, late phase. I mean, where are we in terms of what's happening and what AWS is making happen? Yeah, so a couple of years ago, we knew that cloud is here to stay. There's still the joke, a friend of mine in the keynote, 20,000 people registered for this event and it was like, well, you know, I guess this cloud thing might have legs. Right, we were. So, you know, it's a, we are still early in the overall, you know, wave of this. I've been in a number of conferences this year that we've done theCUBE on. You talk about the infrastructure companies and companies that have built on virtualization. They said, you know, we went through a decade of tremendous growth with virtualization. Virtualization's still very important. Amazon builds their instructor not on VMware, but they leveraged virtualization technology. But the next 10 years will be this huge wave of, really that, you know, going up the uptick of the S curve. So we're past, really, if you think about that the classic crossing the chasm, you know, we're in the early majority, going to mid majority of the people using it and there's just, you know, no shortage of new use cases that people can use it for. You know, we've talked to lots of companies that start up and say, I'm just leveraging cloud because it's easy. There's VCs that look at that as how to get involved and as I've just mentioned before, there's companies now that are building themselves on serverless. So this is even kind of the next piece that follows these waves. So we are early in cloud. If you look at kind of the overall cam of IT, public cloud is still a very small piece. At Wikibon, we've been talking for the last, I think two years about what we call really the multi-cloud environment. There's true private cloud and there's public cloud and how do I get that operational model that I can scale, I can build a really a distributed architecture. I shift more to operational expense rather than a capital expense. So it's flexibility, it's agility, it's speed and you know, it's very interesting and exciting times. There's no more exciting time to be in tech than today except maybe tomorrow because we know the only thing, the only thing constant is that the pace of change keeps increasing. It does increase and two big drivers of that. We heard a lot again about the artificial intelligence, machine learning, how would you rate or how would you characterize the impetus that they're providing in terms of pushing the envelope? Yeah, so absolutely, there were some good announcements today, I don't know that there's any today that you'd say I'm going to look back five years from now and be like, wow, I was in New York City when that was announced. But just in general. But in general, let me say one of the things that I didn't hear today, it was a little bit disappointed. I mentioned it in the open, we talked to a couple of the partners here, you know, the Kubernetes adoption, you know, Adrian Cockruff got up on stage, he had written a blog post, there was an announcement last week, no mention of, you know, where Kubernetes is going to fit in here. You know, definitely they're committed to it, they're, you know, making developments, but it's, you know, maybe something will come out in beta soon, I would expect by the time we get to the re-invent show in November that we will have more clarity here. I was hoping to hear that more. And that was something that didn't come out of Amazon, but they're embracing it. Customers are asking for it. Developers, there's a groundswell on that. So they're involved with it. Lambda, serverless, absolutely. Amazon is at the vanguard, they're pushing things forward. Machine learning and IoT. Amazon is at the table, it's still very early, they're driving a lot of things forward. Yeah, you know, getting up from John Furrier, it's like, come on, there's no Bitcoin discussed today. Why is that? We hear, you know, some of the other vendors there, but, you know, Amazon is in all the appropriate conversations, you know, I don't hear any, you know, there's not any wide gaps that you say customers like, hey geez, you know, Amazon's not in this space, and I expect them to, and therefore, I'm going to choose another platform provider. That being said, it's not a winner-take-all, it is a multi-cloud world. You know, most of these environments, you know, we talked about even, if I do serverless, if I architect them a certain way, I can move them, you know, and make changes, Kubernetes the same way. So, you know, Amazon, one of the things that they pride themselves on is they need to keep proving to their customers every month that they are the ones that they fuse on, because otherwise it is, you know, relatively easy to make a change, but, you know, they're the big dog that they, you know, got the leadership position, and you know, it's always impressive to watch them. Well, it is, and you speak of impressive reinvent, just about two and a half months away, three months away, we'll be out there as well. Huge show, probably one of the larger shows by far that we attend, and looking forward to that, and seeing you down the road, always a pleasure to be with you. Thanks so much, John. Great job, as always. Stu Miniman does an outstanding job providing analysis for Wiccabot. So on behalf of Stu and for all the crew here at theCUBE, we thank you for joining us here at the AWS Summit here in Midtown, we've been live at the Javits Center. Have a good week, and we'll see you down the road here on theCUBE.