 My name is James Pepper. I'm the chair of the Vermont Cannabis Control Board. Today is Wednesday, August 3rd, 2022, and I call this meeting to order. I wanted to say that we were off last week. It feels like an eternity, but we're back. A lot has happened. Most importantly, we have onboarded our compliance team. We had over 100 people apply for these positions and there was so many talented people that we had to turn down. However, the good news is that the four that accepted plus carry really are the best of the best. And they're going to start doing site inspections later this week. So I thought I would take a few minutes now to introduce them and allow everyone watching to really just kind of match a face with a name because these people will be kind of contacting you about site visits. Carrie I'd like to if you're there, kind of turn things over to you to introduce the team. But I did just want to very publicly thank you for accepting this role. You know, for 30 years, you were a pillar at AG, the Agency of Agriculture, and I'm sure it wasn't easy saying goodbye to those folks. But, you know, if we're going to get this right, if we're going to kind of honor Vermont's reputation for quality, you know, you're the right person for this job. So thank you and I'll turn things over to you. Well, thank you, James. No, I really appreciate it. It's been really fun thinking about how to operate in this space, what the market can look like and bringing on the compliance team this week has me really excited. We've got a deep bench as far as compliance goes. It's been a lot of experience either either working in state systems and a lot of knowledge about cannabis as well. The first one I'd like to introduce is Chipper Sullivan. He's in Brattleboro, Chipper if you can turn your camera on that would be great. And this is Chipper Sullivan he's down in Brattleboro. It's been a long time farm produce farm. Experience as well as experience in one of the larger dispensaries working in one of the larger dispensaries in in mass and welcome Chipper he's located in Brattleboro and will likely be covering the lower half of the state. Chipper if you want to say hello that would be great. Hello, I am Chipper Sullivan. It's all true. It wasn't a dispensary as much as it was a tier 11 outdoor grow. Yeah, and my experience in Massachusetts left me with an undying dedication to do it right in Vermont because I have lots of criticisms of their system so I'm looking forward to getting off the ground and getting things going here in Vermont. Thanks Chipper and I apologize I did know it was a grow so there's a lot of grow experience there. And we're happy really happy to have you on board representing the Vermont. Be along boots on the ground the face of the control board out in the field. Next. Next. Next person I'd like to introduce is probably a name that a lot of folks will recognize she's been working in hemp space, as well as teaching the cannabis class at both VTC and Castleton. Chris you're up this is Chris Monica she's our next compliance officer I'd like you folks to meet. Hi, I'm super super happy to be part of this effort. And excited to start getting out there and and meeting the, the license holders. I, I, it looks like I might head up towards the kingdom. So anybody who's up that way should be seeing me soon and just happy to be on board and and moving forward with a great industry. So. And anybody who started growing cannabis in Vermont in hemp space. We'll recognize the next individual. Mike D. Tommaso is currently at the agency of act, but as the hemp program. Transitions over from the agency of. Ag split between USDA and product. Regulation here at the control board. We'll all be familiar with with Mike D. Tommaso. Hey, I'm Mike D. Tommaso super excited to be here. As Carrie mentioned, I'm still with the agency of agriculture, but we'll be starting full time for the board on August 15th. So as Carrie mentioned again, I've been working with hemp growers and processors in Vermont for the past four years or so. And I'm really excited to be carrying on carrying on that relationship with a lot of the folks that that will be also entering the cannabis space. Thanks and look forward to meeting you out of the field. Our last hire starting Monday. She's really shined as someone who's going to help us navigate the state system. Experience at the department or agency of human services. Department of aging and independent living. We've brought on Denise McCarty and have Denise say hello. Betty, I'm Denise McCarty and I'm really looking forward to doing this very important work. So I will be seeing many of you. It looks like I'll be covering Washington, Memorial and Chittenden counties or so. So, I'll see you out there. Thank you so much. Take care. And that's that's that's the team currently we will be starting field visits. They've been out this morning, but those are starting this week and into next week. We'll see you all out there. Thank you. And thanks. And thanks to everyone really, I mean, it's it's such an exciting time in Vermont and I'm just couldn't be happier with the kind of. Everyone's enthusiasm to get going and really do this right here in Vermont. So thank you to everyone. Super exciting. Very exciting. Just a quick update on licensing. So it is April or sorry August 3rd. We don't have any product manufacturers ready to go for this week. We're still trying our best to make it through kind of our outdoors and cultivation licenses, but we are moving on to the product manufacturers and wholesalers. So we should have some of those soon. Also, our application portal is ready for retail. We decided to go ahead and open that. So if you are a prospective retailer, our portal is live. You can access it through our website at ccb.vermont.gov slash forms. And there's a link there to access our application portal and you'll see now that there is a way to apply for retail licenses. That's great. We really want to kind of get those applications in and start their review as soon as we can. With respect to outdoor cultivators, I mentioned something at our last meeting that generated a few questions. So I figured I'd just revisit it and see if I can clear up some of the confusion. If you have a pending application for an outdoor or a mixed tier cultivation license, the board emailed you a letter asking if you still want us to process your application this year. We know that at this point in the summer, if you don't have your plants in vegetation or in the ground, you're probably not going to get a full harvest. If you are in this situation and it doesn't look like you're going to plant or harvest this year, the board really doesn't want you to have to pay for a license that you're not going to get the full benefit of. We don't want you to have to pay for insurance or banking services that you're not if you're not actually going to operate this year. On the other hand, I'm sure there are people in this situation that do want their license. You know, maybe you want to get your operation ready to go for the spring and you want to do that on your own timeline. So really us sending out this letter did not suspend or pause our review of your application. You don't have to take any action if you want us to continue to process your application. But if you do want to pause, there are instructions in the letter on how to communicate that to the board. We'll be in touch with you if you do communicate that to the board that you want to pause and we'll be able to talk you through kind of what the next steps are and you know some of the things like banking insurance requirements that you can kind of wave in this interim period. Just a general point also that email is always the best and most efficient way to communicate with us. Our staff is very responsive over email. And it's always the easiest way for us to provide clear answers to your questions. So please try to prioritize email and communicating with the board. It just speeds everything up on our ends. The medical program. We're in the process of developing our legislative proposals for the medical program. We wanted to start by asking the public to share their thoughts with us. To that end, we're going to be holding two roundtable discussions next week. One on Wednesday, August 10th at 2pm right after our board meeting and then one the following day on Thursday, August 11th at 6pm. We'll have some directed questions we'd like to ask the public members of the public, but this will be an open ended discussion about the future of the medical program. So if you care about the medical program, you're a current or former patient. If you're a caregiver. If you're a healthcare provider. If you're someone who has not been able to access the medical program or it's been unaffordable. Or if you just want to listen, please join those roundtables and share your thoughts with us. These will be fully remote. And the links to participate will be either by phone or by video will be available on our website. And we'll get those up as soon as we can. But they're next next Wednesday and next Thursday. Just wanted to talk quickly about the tobacco product tax sometimes just referred to as the vape tax. I think it's clear at this point that despite whatever the legislative intent or the logic of this tax, it is going to apply to cannabis vaping devices and cannabis products, whether they have any tobacco in that or not. I want to be clear that, you know, everything that we've learned about the volley, you know, the CCB thinks that leaving this tax in place is dangerous. And we're going to ask the legislature to exempt THC products from this tax. However, until that happens, anyone who intends to retail these products will need to comply with the law, including getting a tobacco retailer license from the Department of Liquor and Lottery. The tax department has developed guidance on how to comply with the requirements of the tobacco tax. They updated their kind of guidance document. It's on page eight. And we have a link to it on our website and they have it posted on their website as well. We've quick note on inventory tracking. We've made significant progress on getting our inventory tracking system up and running. I want to wait just a little bit longer until we have contracts in place before I go into the specifics. But just a 30,000 foot view licensees are going to have reporting requirements that they're going to submit to the board at regular intervals about their inventory. And we will be analyzing those, that data, those data sets with the help of a third party analytics contractor for aberrations and suspicious activity and they're going to help prioritize our enforcement actions. So we'll have more on this very soon, but we're just kind of in the process of getting contract signed. So, other than that, just need to approve the minutes from our last meeting on July 20. You guys have a chance to review those. Seconded. All in favor. Hi. Right. So moving down the agenda. You know, we are required to develop a point of sale flyer with kind of information for consumers that gets handed out by retailers at the point of sale. You know, not a lot of information can fit on just a little warning label. And so this is a way to kind of provide additional information to consumers at the point of sale. Julie took the lead on developing this. She had kind of a robust process of stakeholder input. You have a draft of it and thought it might be helpful to kind of review that now. Sure. Just to do a little table setting reminder and leaping off from where you started the requirements in the legislative and the legislation is that the retailers handed out or offered at the point of sale. And then we would have it posted on our website. And the legislature had some requirements for the content as well to include methods of consumption and the time it would take for a product to take effect where folks might seek help if they're having issues with substance misuse and so forth. So with that in mind, then the other key components that they required that we consult with the department of health, which we did. And so to keep in mind when I share the draft that the target audience or this flyer is essentially someone who has already gone into a cannabis establishment and is at the point of purchase. And is perhaps someone who has not purchased cannabis before or is not a regular consumer. So it's got a lot of very basic information for that reason because our, you know, guiding principles that we that let off from our mission were about consumer education and harm reduction. And so that is really sort of the goal I took with this. So we got input from the Department of Health, we did consult with them. I also consulted with the prevention community and our appointee on the advisory committee who is in the agency of health and human services. So specifically sought out folks who have experienced communicating public health information harm reduction information prevention and consumer education information. And we also got lots of public comments, particularly back during the period of time that we were doing the subcommittee meetings with the public health subcommittee. There was conversation about this. So I went back to those conversations as well and other states have similar things either on their websites or in our stores. So we looked at those as well. So with that, I will share the draft. So as a reminder, this is the text only so any sort of formatting or, you know, branding, or logos that would be on it are not necessarily in here I thought it was sort of important to get the text right first. So it starts off talking about. Sorry, I'm just trying to find the way to navigate here. So it starts off sort of discussing the difference between THC and CBD. It seems like there is confusion among some of the broader community about what those two things are and what they do and their effects on the body. Then it goes into some of the legalities 21 plus only unless you have a marijuana card. No public use prohibited on public lands. It talks about the dangers of driving under the influence. Which was one of the legislative requirements. Navigate down. There we go. I don't know how you edited the rules like this, David. I struggle with this. Okay. So it talks about driving under the influence and the dangers there again legislative requirement. And then one of the other legislative requirements is the notice that it is still federally illegal. So the what's bought in Vermont must remain in Vermont is geared towards that. And from there it really talks about safety and safe consumption. So talking about everyone's experience being different, starting low and going slow. We got some feedback about being a little bit more specific about the type of dosage that someone should start with. So we added that as well and a little conversation about potency. You're going, you're starting, you're going slow. We're starting lower going slow. We're going to go through. So talking about potency that potency matters that certain products like edibles may take longer to take effect. And then you can see in each of these that talks a little bit about like a starting dosage and a wait time before taking over dose for edibles for vaping for concentrates, some commonly known as stabs and for smokable flower and then a little bit of a warning about not mixing cannabis with other substances, particularly if you're not a regular consumer. And a notice that cannabis is not for everyone. There are some folks who have good experiences with cannabis and some folks don't. So here's where someone would find information if they're struggling they are someone they know is struggling with an issue with misuse. And also, if they are having psychosis or suicidal thoughts that national suicide prevention hotline is listed here as well. And then for signs of overuse. There's a little sentence or two about that but most importantly the poison center who I also spoke with about this they asked us to put the number in the flyer which we did and they they provided us with some logos to add when the time comes to do that. And they also have experience speaking with people who have consumed too much and being able to guide them and help them in the moment. And then there's a warning about what to do. Sorry, cannabis and use brain development and it's not suited for people under 21 and that the brain does not finish developing until 25. So some of this information is added not just because I mean I don't, there wouldn't be a youth and a retail location to receive this flyer, but this will likely go home with a product that perhaps their parent or guardian purchases and these are things that they should be thinking about when they have cannabis in their home. So then there's also information about accidental use to avoid while pregnant or caring for children and to keep locked and out of site and out of reach of children and how to do that. And then some how to consume safely just a reminder for folks who might be using, you know, or might be out doing recreational activities if they don't consume cannabis it may affect their response time. And to be careful actually this sort of came from Colorado has a similar warning and their flyer, although there's a specific to skiing, and then to consult a health care provider if you have questions. So that's the content. I can show the logos and so forth that are front like the last talk cannabis logo was provided to us by the Department of Health. The National or the New England Poison Center logo was provided to us and some other prevention links that we can include in the final version of the flyer. Thank you for taking a lead on this Julie. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, no I mean, when you think about the intended audience. These are kind of the things that the things I think people need to know. And I think it's important to remember that the preface that you said at the beginning these are folks that are at the point of sale, ready to, you know, do a transaction. Yeah, and it's just helping for the folks that may be doing this their first time or first couple times and, you know, have no prior experience just the things that they think about should not be the experience that, you know, they may think it is right. One other thing I should mention to is that this should be seen as kind of part of a multi layered approach to harm reduction and consumer education because we also have required education for our retailers, and other agencies and you know other entities also do consumer education there will be responsible retailers that are doing or eight establishments that care a lot about educating the public as well so this is really part of a multi layered approach right and also there's the investment of the excise tax. Yeah, prevention education as well. Yeah, no I think this is great I had just a few little very small comments but you know I don't know if it makes sense to do them here or not because they really are just kind of like little like stylistic things it almost makes sense I feel like I'm going to just set them to bring because they don't change the substance at all at the document. So, I could do it that way instead of kind of editing it here. But just from a process standpoint, it seems like whatever kind of final draft that we come up with should just get one more review by Department of Health. I don't want to sign off on it because, I mean, you know, I don't feel qualified to kind of be the person to just say this is the right messaging or this is the right message is the right message so you know we have to rely on their expertise. It's been doing this for years and other areas so great. All right. Let's move on then. So we got a comment last week about kind of doing another categorical exemption a few weeks ago. And, you know, I asked you to kind of think it through a sense and so maybe you could just help us decide on that. Yeah, so folks that were with us two weeks ago may remember that we did a categorical waiver for the rubber or plastic gasket or seal that's often in glass jars with a with a screw top whether that screw top is tin or wood or bamboo. At this time we're not doing any category or go away with for a plastic screw top. But what we we did get a comment we, we did two weeks ago approve two different rubber dropper tops for like tinctures and stuff like that. Point well taken in our comments that you know one thing we're not trying to do is play to specific brands. At that point in time we'd only gotten to waiver requests for those specific that specific product and the more we thought about it. You know I think it does make sense to extend that category or categorical waiver to those rubber tops that you use as a tincture bottle because there just isn't a really good alternative to those and again we're not trying to play to specific brands and this plastic band language that we've put into our rules does create some unique situations where you know we're trying to focus on the substance not the specific brand but the specific brand does have carry some weight into what we're doing but you know there's not a lot of these can be found in so many different places from so many different vendors that you know we think that that it's the best course of action to take. Yeah, great. So I think the best. Are you ready Julie? Oh yes. And that's all like any rubber stopper top is categorically laid right. Exactly. So I think it might make sense for us to put up a few examples on our product registration waiver requests kind of. Yeah well I'll work it out on that and there is those two that have been approved and we can you know I don't want to highlight specific brands but we'll put a maybe we can put a picture up or something so folks know exactly what we're talking about. Right. And I will say that I haven't gotten. I think we've only gotten one new request since we went in this direction two weeks ago which is encouraging we are still considering some of the waivers that have been submitted but we really want to encourage glass with these specific tops. I think we're thinking about, you know we open retail windows today and if we're thinking about retail establishments that are going to take advantage of our take back and reuse programs. So this is going to be the best way for them to create a sanitation plan and using these specific types of packaging to really take full advantage of that so that's where we're at right now. All right. Well, why don't we move on then. Next on the agenda review of staff recommendations for social equity status and license applications. Here we have your adult use and register for this week. It looks a little bit different about about this register. So it should be pretty easy to navigate though. I'll point out any anything that needs to be clarified. So starting out with the medical cannabis program. Some numbers from the last two weeks. 35 new patient applications. 98 renewal applications received 181 patient cards were issued. 28 caregiver applications were received. And for renewals were received and seven were approved seven applications for caregivers were approved. And 22 employee ID cards are issued. And the update the medical staff are processing applications received on and after July 12. We have a final report on our pre qualification approvals that just breaks it down by the application type so you can see in total we issued 222 pre qualifications. No new ones. Just a reminder that pre qualification window has closed for now. But this is what our breakdown looks like for pre qualification. These numbers before but it's just a little bit more distilled to get a sense of what's coming. So I'll move on to our license applications. These numbers are up to date as of yesterday. You'll see in our table here. We have a new row here for employee ID cards. That will probably be a separate table next time. But you can see we've got 37 employee ID card applications in the in process right now. None have been issued as of yet. But a reminder that you are able to get a temporary employee ID card until your permanent application has been processed. So we'll break that out for next week. This week we have you can't really fit it all on the screen but we've got 20 applications up for board approval for a license this week. They are all cultivation applications still as the chair mentioned at the outset we don't have any. Manufacturing or wholesaler applications up for a license just yet but they are in review and hopefully soon we will have some ready for licensure. So I'll move down to our list for recommendations for a license. The 20 businesses that staff are recommending for a license have all demonstrated compliance with the requirements set out in board rule and in statute. So I'll just go through the list. We've got burning bush farm and outdoor tier one cultivator island pond cannabis company a mixed tier one cultivator. Flavor line cannabis company a mixed tier one cultivator. Trombly house of cannabis a mixed tier one cultivator. Seven bees farm a mixed tier one small cultivator. Z's green Z mixed tier one small cultivator. Hidden Valley farm a mixed tier one small cultivator. Dalen LTD a mixed tier one cultivator. Overton's view farm mixed tier one cultivator. Maple buckets LLC outdoor tier three cultivator. Lagamot breeds LLC mixed tier one cultivator. Fox and hen farms outdoor tier one cultivator. Moonlit gardens an outdoor tier one cultivator. Vermont green buds LLC outdoor tier one cultivator. Green mountain gold farm outdoor tier one cultivator. Cannabis collective outdoor tier two cultivator. Boustini farms a mixed tier two cultivator. Love spun farmstead an outdoor tier one cultivator. Orleans cannabis a mixed tier one cultivator and honey tree farm a mixed tier one cultivator. So that is your list up for approval this week. I'll move on to social equity numbers for this week. We have. We don't have any social equity applicants that are up for approval for a license this week but we do have six applicants who are up for social equity status this week. And those are submission 529 staff are recommending social equity status for this applicant because they meet the criteria for social equity business applicant. Submission 191 also meets the criteria for social equity business applicant. Submission 286 meets the criteria for social equity business applicant. Submission 846 meets the criteria for social equity individual applicant. Submission 852 meets the criteria for social equity individual applicant and submission 1000 meets the criteria for a social equity business applicant. So staff is recommending that the board grant social equity status to those six submission numbers. The staff is recommending social equity status Nile for two submission numbers. And that's submission 380 and 695. Neither of these submissions meet the criteria for social equity individual applicant as defined in board rule. Any questions for Brent? Nope. All right. Is there a motion to approve the staff recommendations? I move that the board accept each of the recommendations for social equity status and licensing approval as presented to us by staff in this meeting. Second. Any discussion about any of these? All right. All in favor? Hi. Hi. Great. You know, one thing that I haven't mentioned, but most people probably know, is that we have all of our approved licenses. You can kind of see them by category up on our website. We also have a nice map feature. You know, we don't list the specific address of these cultivation sites, but you can see just what towns that are in. So it's actually a very good geographic distribution of the ones we've licensed so far. It's also for you. One or the same? Yeah. All right. So why don't we move to the public comment? You've joined by the link. Let's make a comment. He's raised your virtual hands. We'll start with those kind of in the order that you've raised your hand and then we'll move to anyone who's joined by a phone. And maybe Nellie, you could help us out with the order. Absolutely. Dave is first. Hey, all. I want to share, first of all, thank you for the actions today. Great information. Good progress. Very happy to see things. The retail application opened, but I want to share a frustration that I'm getting from many of my clients regarding the CSI background check process. I mean, I know that you guys would prefer to do it a different way and it was foisted on you because the FBI rejected you. And so, you know, I think everyone gets that. But the CSI process aside from being expensive is occasionally very slow. And by the way, the results I'm seeing are sometimes not great. Like I've had a couple of clients who I know have criminal records because we pulled it for the prequel from the FBI background check and CSI isn't even getting it. They're missing it. So, you know, I think you're getting poor service levels from CSI in addition to the high cost and the frustrating process. But I think even more importantly, it is a drag on the application process. Currently, people are not being asked to start the CSI process until after some level of deep staff review. And I'm wondering whether there is any way for you guys to get people to start the CSI process even earlier. Like when their application goes from submitted to received because at least then they can get that started and if CSI is taking one, two, three, four weeks sometimes when it's complicated, at least you already have that back by the time the staff is doing the deep review and moves the application from received to either incomplete or whatever that they have the background check so that there's not a two week pause or several week pause while waiting for CSI. So that's my suggestion to you in this CSI process that I know everyone I'm looking at on the screen here is frustrated by. So, thank you. Thanks, Steve. Marie. Marie with a grow. We can't hear you. Can you guys hear me yet? Yeah, we can hear you now. Okay, sorry I was taken forever to unmute. Thank you again, as always for what you do and how hard I'm sure you're all working, because I know it's got to be very difficult process, but I have to echo what David just said. I'm in in the in the process of I have submitted my application for manufacturing tier two. And what really worries me is the timeframe the crunch I'm going to be under because I can't legally like go and purchase these products that I need to purchase to make my free rolls without the licensing through some organizations that I'm working with the companies I'm working with want to see my license and my biggest concern is and I know this, you know, I guess I just need to let you know what I'm dealing with is the timeframe of when I get these products. If we're talking weeks for this CSI we're talking weeks for me to be able to get my products to make, you know, the product that I'm going to produce, then we're looking at like past the going live date and that really makes me because I want to be in on it. So just wanted to throw it out there it's kind of scary we're getting into crunch time, you know, from our perspective so just wanted to share that. Thanks right. Appreciate the comment. Kate. Hi, this is Kate Burke from Gravel and Shay. I just remember I think is probably a pretty simple technical question. The application website is not the best it tends to boot us out each time we log out we have to reset passwords. I'm just wondering for purposes of expediting, you know, collect information for the application. I definitely understand and agree with you guys wanting the application submitted through the portal, but could you post a PDF of the application to so people could just look at it with the understanding it has to be submitted through the portal but so we could gather the info without fighting the website so much. Thanks for the comment Kate. So folks know we don't generally answer questions directly during the public comment period it would very quickly turn into kind of a just question and answer session, but we do collect these comments we do consider them. And we do try and post comments or post guidance or around this or just come back with an update at the next meeting is to some of the kind of suggestions or questions. Hi everybody hopefully you're all having a great day. I want to second what Kate was saying we just we had a technical problem over here to the new link on the retail app just as access denied when we tried. Next I just want to talk about the disclosure of locations of licensees on the website. I really I just don't see an upside to that and it's really concerning and I hope that that goes away. I think most you know obviously retailers want want people to know where they're at but I think I can I can safely speak for most growers that they definitely don't want people knowing where they are, and there's no reason for it. You know the downsides are plenty so I really like to see that go away. And lastly, that they text news. I'm glad to hear that that you're that the CCB is taking some action, but it's really disappointing to hear and also doesn't really make sense that they're going to keep this for cannabis. Yet, the current dispensaries don't pay this tax now just doesn't make sense. So, hopefully we can navigate through through that issue, but that's it. Thank you. Next, Michael is next. Hi everyone. Thank you for all the hard work that you guys have all been putting into this new industry. I work for an insurance agency out of Massachusetts and have firsthand seen the difficulties of our own state, and I've been working pretty diligently with a number of applicants in Vermont as well. And one thing I wanted to comment on was the insurance requirements for Vermont operators more specifically for home based businesses. I actually have an exclusion up from one of the largest insurance providers for home insurance in Vermont that states no coverage is provided for bodily injury or property damage arising out of a business owned or financially controlled by the insured or a partnership of which the insured is a partner or member. Therefore, home insurance is not covering home based businesses, whether it be a cultivation or product manufacturing operation. We are actively developing a new program that is a commercial insurance option for these new home based businesses that does not have a residential exclusion. This should be online soon. Like I said, we've seen some pretty hard difficulties here in Massachusetts regarding insurance. I'd like to work with the board here on the insurance requirements to make the process a little bit more streamlined for these new home based businesses, as well as the commercially located businesses as well. And from a risk management standpoint, I have to back what the last speaker just said about the locations of these operators. It does enforce a level of theft that could be concerning to insurance carriers getting into this new market. But otherwise, thank you so much for your time and thank you for your hard work and looking forward to more developments within the industry here soon. Thank you. Nate. Thanks everyone for taking all these public comments and for your time, holding this out. It's a much appreciated. I just wanted to ask with the moved up schedule to accept retail applications, if that also comes with any sort of moved up deadline to get those in. To reference anything like that, I just want to make absolutely sure that that wasn't a stipulation or contingency with moving up the date to start accepting them that you're moving up at some sort of day to stop accepting them. So that's all I had. Thank you. Thanks, Nate. Bobby. Hi, thank you for taking my question and comments and appreciate all the work you guys have done. I'm a social equity applicant, and I've been scrambling to get everything resubmitted. I did it last week. I sent an email. I sent three emails, one voicemail. I tried on the portal. My issue is the portal application intake portal. It's it's very complicated. It shouldn't be complicated. There's a glitch somewhere. But I tried to resubmit, went back and looked for the work review. Having said all that, I sent everything be email to make sure you got my information, but I haven't had any responses in the past week. And so Monday, brilliantly, it I resubmitted and it took it. So I don't really know where my application is at this process, but it's been a long journey and I feel like I need to create a support group for this process. I'm sure you need to. You feel like too. It's a lot of work for everybody. Thank you for getting us this far. But I still don't have any information, even though I was issued a license on the 17. So I went back and did everything you asked. Is there any way I can find out where my application is at this point? Maybe a sidebar note. Is there anything else you need for me at this point? And I can my application number is the S and the 60718. And my second question. Yes. Yeah, go ahead. My second question is our cultivators also required to have a retail license for tobacco for the taxes as cultivators. So probably we don't again just generally answer questions directly during this public comment period. But we will have someone reach out to you about your application and then the tax department is the one and liquor control that can answer questions about what's required from a tax compliance standpoint. All right, I'll follow up with that. Thank you for reviewing my application again to make sure there's anything missing. And thank you for all your work. Jim. Thank you. I really want to thank Miss Holbert for her openness and for reaching out and drafting the point of sale flyer. We really appreciate that. And we think you're making great progress. I'd like to ask that you post the draft that you discussed today on your website so we can all see the draft. And second, I'm hoping at some point that the board will put on this agenda. The proposed amendment to rule 2.9 that we submitted on July 8. And just to refresh your recollection under Connecticut's approach. The state requires retailers to make best efforts to market low potency. And we would like to suggest that the amendment to that mandate. Thanks. Thank you, chair. I have a quick comment. I just want to echo what I think it was Tito was the name. In terms of the location of cultivation spaces or facilities not being public. It's not a record or at least easily accessible. That seems like an enormous, enormous issue to me. And I would definitely encourage you to take that really seriously. And, you know, bear in mind that the reason, you know, to me that's so important. It's not, you know, a couple of teenagers that are going to come, you know, try to snag a plan. It's not just any of what happens out West. It's a level of organization that's going to come and make sure they get all your, your plans in the best case scenario. So I would definitely implore you to do a little bit of research on what has happened in certain parts of California, specifically with the cartel targeting legal licensed grow operations. Like we experienced the same level of organized crime in Vermont as somewhere like California with the cartel, but especially as one of the states that is legal with other states around it, not being legal. It just seems like a total no brainer to me. Thanks. Jesse Lynn. My name is Jesse Lynn Dolan. I'm a nurse and I don't get to attend these meetings very often. Unfortunately, lately, so I want to just jump in and throw in a couple comments related to some of the things discussed today. When we talk about packaging, I will just continue to mention that I would love us to address and look at using different and more accepting inclusive language than breastfeeding because that is the theme and the norm today to use more inclusive language when we're looking at that population. I wanted to ask if there's any information you guys can share of long the lines of education and when or what you will be mandating and what that's going to look like for employees. I want to reiterate my support of Tito and reducing the taxation on vapes and just let you guys know as a cannabis control board if you have not seen the new research there is new research out showing even more detrimental effects just on the temperature that vapes are that. So looking at that and again deterring people from using those single use cartridges instead being able to purchase flower vaporizers without that increased taxation. I also want to reiterate as a single female cannabis cultivator. It is very concerning for me to have my address publicly out there. It has brought concerns and issues to me before and I know this has been brought up but I will continue to support the other folks who are asking to look at possibly adjusting or looking for more safety parameters around that. Last one or two things I just want to mention because I know it hasn't I don't think it's been talked about in a little bit is some of the lab testing mandates. I will continue to mention and advocate for mandated terpene testing in our labs because if we really are concerned about intoxication and the way cannabis affects us from from that psychoactive perspective we do need to be looking at the terpene testing and if we want to support both patients and consumers to use both efficaciously and affordably then terpene testing is where that education will support them. And lastly just wanted to throw out there and I know I'm throwing a lot of stuff out you but you guys know me by now it's kind of how I roll. I wanted to mention third party certifications and programs like clean green and what that means and can mean to Vermont and where that falls along pesticide testing and also the use of the word organic. We're seeing a lot of people out there posting things saying they're organic and I know the USDA has different opinions and thoughts on the use of that word. So I just wanted to see if and when we'd have some guidance regarding both that and education. So thank you so much for everything. Thanks Jesse. So I don't see any other hands up. I'll move to folks that joined by the phone. If you joined by the phone and would like to make a public comment you can unmute your phone by hitting star six. Of course if you joined by the link just continue to and you want to make a comment please feel free to just raise your hands. We generally don't take repeat comments during these formats. But if you have a comment that you'd like to make you know we have on our website just a portal where you can just kind of click on that button submit a comment. It goes to every board members inbox. So we will see it. And you know we'll have another actually just wondering. It's actually not a comment. I'm wondering if that insurance man is still on because I've been having a heck of a time finding insurance. So I would appreciate if he's still there if I could get his name again. Well our website. I mean the video to this meeting will be posted on both YouTube and our website linked on our website. So you can just kind of go back and watch it. And we do have a few insurance companies that have kind of reached out to us. It's not an endorsement of any of them. But it reached out to us and say we do ensure cannabis businesses on our website. There aren't any other public comments. I'll close the public comment window. Thank you for the for the comments. Thank you for the concerns. Again we try not to answer questions directly during these public comment sessions. But we do really appreciate the feedback and we are constantly updating our processes updating our guidance based upon what we're hearing from people kind of on the ground. So thank you for that. Just on the location of cultivators I did want to touch on that. We are not posting physical addresses span numbers. We're not posting any of that we're posting just the town. And we have a kind of balancing act that we have to do with respect to the public records laws. And we're allowed to exempt you know anything that might implicate public safety. We decided that the line there is the actual address not the town. But we can always reconsider internally whether or not we need to be even more general with the information that we put out. But it's a point that we have thought about in disgust here and we can kind of continue to discuss. Yeah I think folks need to remember that these are public records. And yes we are aware of what goes on in other states. But thank you. Any other comments from Julie Kyle Bryn David that we need to make before we adjourn. Unless you have an objection I'm comfortable adding chest feeding and human milk feeding to the flyer. I did a little research I meant to mention this when I was talking about it. But I saw your text that you're fly. Yeah so I think we are going to add that. It's not right there. I may have added it already. So yeah so midwives are using that language and a couple of state departments of health in other states. If there's nothing else I'll adjourn this meeting. We'll see everyone next week.