 Jacksonville, Florida, you already know what time it is. Duvall County, you already know what time it is. Man, it's the 85 South Show, September 11th. We're going to buy stuff, veterans, aren't we? We coming live, so get your tickets. You already know what it is, man. I was just there a couple weeks ago at Dracula's Lair and all y'all said y'all was coming, man, so make sure you get your tickets. September 11th. Jacksonville, Florida. Duvall County, live on. What are we doing when we going down to Duvall? 85 South to Colgers Parkhead, September 11th. Jacksonville, Florida. Jacksonville, Duvall, we coming live on. Jacksonville, we coming live on. Jacksonville, we coming live on. Vice Tom, veterans, aren't we? Get your tickets. We see y'all on September 11th. Everybody, you only work with good motherfuckers. Everybody on this list, good motherfuckers. Pink. Pink, she got it. She get it as well. Man, pink good than the motherfuckers. Nigga, you don't work with so many people this shit, just say various artists. Just like everybody came through. And then you going to ask me why we want you on here. We can just ask you about one song and there to be a whole episode. Big Boy, Bow Wow. This thing is going to work with Big Boy and our cast. That was two different times. The Dungeon Family. That's like 75 people, if you really know. In Atlanta, that's Outcast Future, TLC, Usher, Rico Wade. Basically, if you ever recorded a hit song in Atlanta, you had to be around somebody in the Dungeon Family. You know how they had that thing where it was like everybody in the last 15 NBA Finals had been Shaq teammate. Nigga, every piece of good shit that ever came out of Atlanta, somebody from the Dungeon Family was over there. Yeah, that's real shit actually. That's real shit? Yeah, that's real shit. I mean, I think we ground this shit, man. We from it, so it feels different. Man, I'm just looking at the list. The list cut off. It's still 10 years of shit that you done that nobody even knew. Even the internet was like, man, ask him. So from after 2011, man, tell me some more shit. Man, shit, went to Atlanta. See how normal this shit is? It's like you switched jobs, went to Atlanta. What do we do with Atlanta? We sold a lot of records over there. That's one of the biggest record companies in the world. And reconnected with Pharrell over there, like that. When did you connect with him? You're just going to start the story when y'all reconnected. Wait a minute. Welcome back to the 85th down show. You see the shorts on the table. You see the hoodies. Be great. This is one of the greatest. I'm looking at a list of all your favorite songs. And you didn't even know that KP has something to do with it. Welcome to the trap of KP. I appreciate it. Come on, man. We're not even worth it. We done had a lot of Atlanta legends come through here. And don't act like you ain't one of them. You be down playing all this shit. But you got to come over here and give us your version of the pieces of Atlanta history that you done been a part of. Look at this list. Do you remember this shit? Yeah. All right. And then you got to tell me about the shit that ain't on here. Let me see. So you said you reconnected with Rue Ferrell. How did you connect with him? How did you start all of this? Clearly it was around 1990. Now this shit hit in 1996. So you had to be doing it about 1993 at least. So now 90, having to go to school when the tri cities were like outcast. See what I'm saying? You even went to a historical Atlanta high school. D.C. went over there for a minute. That's the one he got threw out of I think. So his thing. So I did a bunch of that. Like I went to Maze. They asked me to leave. I know for a fact that he went to Maze. Yeah. They're strict. They don't want everybody there. So I went to Lake Shore. I did a tour. I went to all the high schools. And in doing that I met a bunch of people. I graduated from Tri City which is where outcasts both of them went candy, Keenan from Saturday Night Live. It's like a bunch of people went in this time period. Exactly. And all of us were working. We all knew we wanted to do shit. It was like talent show kids. And yeah. And we started working. And at that time L.A. and Babyface and Pebbles moved to Atlanta. Like they met T-boss who was a friend of mine who went to TLC. I'm sorry T-boss from TLC. Right. She was my homeboy who was in a group with me. His brother's girlfriend. So it was like all these weird, everybody was just randomly connected. Right. And then, you know, and they got a deal. And on one of their video shoots, they were doing an audition for the video. Baby, baby, baby. And T-on was like, yo, y'all should come down. Bring the group. Y'all see if y'all can slide. I'm gonna figure out how to get y'all in. If I can slide y'all in to get Pebbles to see y'all. And I brought them out to turn tables. We set up. And Pebbles was like, well, if I'm gonna watch you, what you gonna do for me? And I was like, yeah, like that's how I felt. And she was like, you know, like I'm here auditioning. I need people for a video. Like if you'll be in the video, then yeah, I'll watch you. And I was like, oh, yeah, bet. Yeah, hey, I'll take one for the team. I ain't know the myth. So it wasn't like a thing yet. And so anyway, she was like, you gonna be Chili's boyfriend in the video. And yeah. Okay. And that's how it's, and so from then on. Who don't want that job? Yeah, right. I was like, I heard that. Cool. And that's how it started. We got pulled in, Pebbles brought me in. And it kind of opened up the back door so I could see how shit worked. The first time I ever met her, she had me come down to a video set, like an editing bay where she was editing a TLC video and explaining to me why certain shit was happening. So I was always intrigued by that part. Eventually she was like, you know what, you really do have an interest and a knack for it to understand you because you speak both sides. Like you ain't really tripping on people who work at the record company thinking you gotta be a different kind of way, but you also are delivering the message in a way that is understood. So yeah, she was like, you should be with LA. Like you should work with LA. So she's the person who put me on what LA Read who brought me in to start doing N.R. So that's how I got in as an executive. Man, you just been turning that shit up, everything. Look at this shit. Somebody find another year's. Can't find another year's, man. Tony Braxton, bro. You worked on one of the biggest songs. Yeah, you make them out. I was Generation. Well, the hard part about taking credit for shit like that is like she was already Tony Braxton. Exactly, but you came when that happened. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so, yeah. That's one of the biggest songs. But I was able to just connect some shit. Like my homeboy Bryce, who was in this group, Groove Theory, was like a big producer. They dope as hell. It's fucked. So he's producing and Babyface, like I'm at LaFace, I'm connected to Babyface. So I'm like, man, it'll be hard if Babyface wrote over one of your tracks, like one of them hard ass records. And he wrote, you make me hot for that. You see how you tell a shit so normal? Man, this is fucking crazy. You know how good you have to be at music for Babyface to even talk to you? Well, no, actually, you know, you just gotta not be scared of Babyface. But I'm saying, like, then when you're not scared of him, you have to really deliver some good shit. This is Babyface. Yeah, he's Babyface. He writes songs like, yeah. Yeah, End of the Road. Sing that. It's over. How can we talk? You can't even name all the shit that Babyface. No, you can't. So that's why the shit, like, well, I can't trip because I know Babyface. I've seen him, like, the niggas I know are, like, really, like... Bro, if he come to the trap, we shutting this bitch down. We not even gonna record nothing else in here. We gotta move. We got a new location, bro. Yeah, y'all actually might want to just go to his house and some shit, like... Bro, no, because then we're not gonna want to go back to our house. His shit way nice. Too nice. I wasn't even feeling nice enough to go over Babyface's house. No, man. That's where you at. I ain't coming. It's Babyface, man. I'm not coming. Hey, man. Babyface's cool. I believe that, man. Like, you know, he's from, like, Ohio. Okay. Like, they just... They just some dudes, man. Like, they really cool as hell. Who is it? Is Babyface in Simone? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I like Babyface. Oh, okay. I thought you... I thought when you met Babyface, you had to meet, like, a group. Oh, the Babyface. Like, a real Babyface. Yeah, exactly. That's how you made a sound. Like, it's grouping. Yeah, they cool, man. Like Bruno Mars. Yeah, yeah. I like... It's a group. You fuck with Bruno Mars, man. That nigga, him and Anderson Pack, they got some... Yeah, it's it. Like, I love Anderson Pack. Anderson's shit is dope, dude. I rock with Bruno. He's a great entertainer. And I feel like he is the perfect mix of everybody. He is, man. And that's what it is. It's like he's a... He's like a little super... He's every national... He could be anybody. He's every... Like, he just... He fit everywhere, bro. That's a good job. He could be at a Floyd Mayweather fight. He could be at a Manning Pacquiao birthday party. Playboy mansion. Playboy mansion. Playboy mansion. The Soul Train Award. The Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. He could show up at Gucci Man spot. Gucci Man at a Bruno Mars. That's a hit. But they got one. They got one. High. Exactly. High. Exactly. Gucci Man and Bruno Mars. Yeah, Bruno Mars. They need a whole album. I just want Bruno to do... He should do like an album with everybody he likes. He should. I think he should do one song with everybody in the industry. He's multicultural like that. Yeah. Don't worry about that. That just made the chicken real. Oh, shit. What? What we got? I don't know what the fuck that made. What happened? The light died or something, shit. What, though? It's a sign, though, that we're on the right path. Bruno Mars can do music with anybody. Light bulb. Idea. I get it. Man, what type of advice do you give people when they ask you about the music industry? It's clearly you've seen it go from actual physical hard copies to a digital age. You know, it's only a few people that have really broken through on the digital age. Man, and this ain't because of the shirt, but it's like, really, it's like being grown. Like, I would normally used to say be dope. Just be dope. Like, that shit will cut through and get you to have the opportunity to learn all the other shit. Right. But have something that nobody else can do. Like, if you can fuck around and do something that... Some intangible shit. Intangible shit. And I'm like, and nobody can tell you... Nobody can tell you what that is. No. So it's like, but you got to be the best version of yourself. Like, you got to be cool enough with yourself to, like, receive that shit. Like, that's why people, that's why I tip is tip. Because he really is, that's just who he is. So every message or everything that comes through is unadulterated because it's like he ain't putting shit on it. Keep that shit real. That's the first step to being great. Yeah. Yeah, man. And you got to be able to tune out criticism. Yeah, that shit, man. Listen, if you ask for some advice, listen to it, filter it out and see what work for what you're trying to do. Right. Some of it might, some of it ain't. Some people don't know how to listen to advice. You got to, like, sometimes the whole advice might not work. No. Sometimes the whole advice be too big for your situation. You just got to take the part. Yeah, like... Like, this part worked. I ain't fucking with that yet. Later on you got to remember the whole shit, but you can only apply the shit that worked for you. But that's the part, like, okay, and be aware of your, like, self-awareness, bro. In the moment. Yeah, you got to be aware all the time. Like, if you want to do this because it's, it's, you're in a world of creative people. It's people making up shit all the time. Exactly. And you got to figure out how to ride this wave of creativity, but remain real in it, right? And that shit was a whole another level of awareness. Like, I just assumed, like, if you're surfing, like, the awareness you have with the water, you got to have that kind of depth level of concentration and awareness riding this shit. Don't you hate this shit when you had end capri sun and straw wound come out? Yeah, because then you can do to make it seem cool. You got to get some scissors. Like, somebody, there you go. Shit. I hate that. That's the most uncool shit you can do on this show. But I always drink some, drink some kind of, you know, juice when a nigga starts saying real shit. Yeah, you didn't give up. I never will. That's part of my perseverance. Yeah. Put that on my, on the wall by my name. Perseverance. You never gave up. Never gave up. Got it after mud. Where's the mud, by the way? Shit, I'm from Mississippi. The mud is everywhere. Everywhere. Shit, my driveway. Hey, man. In the D. Aries. Marvin Gaye? Yeah, me the one. Check this out. We got the same birthday. Oh, shit. It's right here. It's my official, unofficial co-host. That's what's up. We take Marvin Gaye everywhere, bro. You should. Hell, yeah. What kind of shit you think you and Marvin Gaye would have got into in the studio? Probably some arguments. Musically. Arguments. Probably some arguments. Definitely. All these arguments. I mean, because, I don't know, man. I don't know that Aries do well together in that kind of space. Who do you argue with the most in the studio? All these greats. I argue with the most? Yeah. Tilt. But I don't argue. We don't argue. But debates are, like, intense. Just about random shit. Anything. Anything. Like, just cause. Just cause. That's part of the creativity. It is. But it's the reason why he can write a T.I. vs. T.I.P. Cause he really is, he's arguing with you to hear the whole part. Like, what's your whole point? To have an understanding. Like, I've never seen nobody argue as much as him. But he does it with, he actually listens to the other part. Like, I think most people would be arguments to hear themselves be loud. He really trying to get, like, a real, like, a convicted point. He's argumentative, though. Absolutely. Who second then? Cause I figured it would be him. Really. What a list of shit out. That's all we got for now. I mean, we ain't mean no disrespect. Cause we know you did a lot of shit. No, don't do it. That's all the internet allow us to have. You know, time is hard. They cutting back on everything. Even information. They getting brought back down to 3G. I'm telling you, when we got to the second page, they were just like, ask him. That's what it said on the bottom. Hey man, stop. I'm sorry. So listen. Oh, you know what? Because we've known each other the longest, probably outcast. And not outcast, but both of them, but me and big boy. For real? Yeah. So you've been in the creative process with them, bro. They probably got some great shit that the world never heard. Absolutely. Like, there's a version that's like, C-Lo singing happy. It's crazy. C-Lo, green. Singing happy. If that don't never come out, we should just invite C-Lo to karaoke. Yeah. Do you understand how much the world needs to hit it? Yeah. As it's great too. That song already done sold like 12 billion copies. They should at least leak that. Nah. Alright. Nah. We can't redo it and say I'm in a good mood or nothing. Because I'm playing. I'm feeling decent. Decent is hell. That's the best. They gon' let a nigga feel. Because we decent. That's about right. Don't wanna be happy. Because they'll shut the whole shit down for real. Niggas be decent. Shit. Like that doesn't work. We can't, we should do it. Decent. Decent. Decent. Ain't nobody got that one. Come on, you the anomic. What the call? I call C-Lo. I know he'll be with the shit. He'll do it. I'm gonna call the son first and then have your son tell him. And what you should do is have him do it at your show. Decent. Let him do it live like everybody did on Tyrone. What if we fuckin' record the shit in the song hard in the motherfucker. Then he send the bill and that one won't be able to come out either. Damn. I mean sure. Alright man, appreciate y'all fuckin' record. That was tight. That was tight. Delete that shit. Delete all that. Nah, I think you good. I think you good. Like you understand y'all like, y'all are like a big part of the culture. We ain't even know it yet. Yeah. See we still playing catch up. See we still putting the whole history of the culture together. Okay. So that's why we had to bring you. Okay. There's so much shit you've been a part of in Atlanta, in the world that had an impact on the culture. So once we catch up with, alright these are the people who was like the culture that we were seeing before we was a part of it. Right. Look at how much of my favorite shit you didn't put on this list. So I got this platform, I gotta invite you and ask you nigga how you, how? How? Man you know what? Just being open to it. Like that's it man, like the real of it is I've never put that much on it because I recognize how much goes into it. Like how many people like it takes to make some shit like work for real. That's why this, that's exactly what I'm saying. So it's like my awareness for that makes it like not that, it makes it to where I just want to keep doing shit. If I see somebody doing some dope and I can help or assist, if I can put somebody that whatever I can do to kind of amplify or put a amp on that, like that's what I feel like I'm supposed to do. But that's on some DJ shit too because it's like that muscle of being able to like play music, see a crowd, trying to find a way to make everybody feel involved. It's like when you can figure that out, if you can do that in other places it's the same feeling. How long you been DJing? Shit since I was 13, what is that? Yeah, like 35 years. I always wonder how people know that could be a DJ. So this is weird, right? So this is probably like the most hip hop ass story like ever. So when I was like 11, 10, 11, I used to go to the airport at Atlanta at Hartsfield. They used to have this shit where you can take those little carts and when you return them from like people leaving them, it would give you 25 cents. So I used to go, we would go find all the carts, take them, get the money. They had a game room in the airport, like an arcade. So me and my cousin would go in and do this shit and play video games for like an hour. I'm playing video games one day and this dude walks up. I'm playing this kung fu game. You know, it's like a two player jump. And dude was like, yeah sure, can I play this game with you? And I'm like, you know, some weirdo shit, like, you know, like why? And so he's like, I mean, no, no, it's just, you know, it's my game. It's my game. And I looked up and he had a necklace on and he had like Chinese lettering. So I was like, oh, that's interesting. So we're playing. And I was like, what did that say? And then he was like, it was LL Cool J. And I'm like, what's that mean? And he was like, ladies love Cool J. I was like, but this is like, again, 10, 11. This ain't like, I don't know yet. So, but like this is like hip hop is starting like to branch out. So I'm in the airport and he's talking to me. And I'm like, he starts breaking down and he travels the world. He's in Atlanta doing a show and he has this song radio. No, I need a beat. And I was like, oh, I know that shit. And then I'm like, so wait a minute. So what you doing here? And he's telling me all this shit. Like I traveled the world, you know, and he's LL Cool J talking. So I'm like a kid like, oh wow, it's like some mean Joe Green shit. And he's like, yo, once you come back. And I don't, it sounds weird saying the story now, but he's like, why don't you come back and meet my people? And I'm like, I tell my cousin, let's go. We, and this before TSA, so you can go wherever in the airport. So we go back to their gate and it's him. It's like the Beastie Boys. It's like, it's like Def Jam. And he's telling me shit. And he introduced me to cut creator. And he's like, he's the DJ. And he's like, I'm like, so what you do? Because he seemed like the most chill person there. Like he was like, like, you know, the Beastie Boys and like sprawled out in the airport. It was like a, it was some rap shit. But he seemed like cool and aware of shit. And he was like, well, you know, I keep the shit going. And that go fast for it. I go home. I tell my mom for Christmas, I want turntables. And she gets me turntables and that's how I started. Man, that's the craziest shit I have ever heard, bro. A lot of people that came through here and told a lot of stories. Everybody told no fucking LL Cool J stories. So you just a kid, minding your business with a pocket full of quarters that you got. Relocating airport buggies. LL Cool J like, yo, little man. What type of fucking Coca Cola commercial shit is this? He done told an 11 year old kid, yo, son, I'm a rapper, I travel. Yo, come meet my people. Those the Beastie Boys, excuse me, they drunk. Young man, make better decisions in your life. Don't be drunk at an airport. My man Cuck created it right here. Like, he's the father figure of the group. You see how he's red? Fuck, man. And then as he was leaving, he took off his kangaroo and was like, hey, little man. Catch. Now keep your mind, man. This was the 80s. So he went home. He was like, yo, moms. I was in the airport today, cold chilling. LL Cool J pulls up on me. Where's my mother? I'm sorry, you're my mother. Listen, yo, he told me he wants me to go sign with Devger. I was like, LL, no disrespect to my man. I'm 11. We got two of those on the bus. You ever heard of these kids? Jamie gave me one. I'm really part of the... So I ran away at 11 and went on tour with Devger. I did and Jermaine did. Exactly, see? It could have been you and Jermaine. Yeah, straight up. Damn it. Man, that is some of the dope shit that I have ever heard. No, the best part of it for me is like, so I had this little Radio Shack Walkman and then they asked me, could you buy it? And I had paid like $10 for it. Look, listen, I paid about $10, $12 for it. My mama did. I sold it to her for $40. Bro, what type LL Cool J? You remember this shit? Come up here and tell us what happened. It was really LL Cool J. And then they could bought you a Walkman at the Atlanta airport. 40. For the 40. At 11. $40. That was like $400. $40 plus they bought about $7.25. Like, nigga, I was so good. I bet you came home like, Mom, you can quit your job. We made it. This airport shit is loose with it. I got this. Watch. Watch. Yeah. Yeah. You can't be a black kid and come home with $40. And what you do? Your grandma's gonna break down crack. Oh my God. My grandson in the street. Yeah. He gave him all the pocket full of money. Quarters, no less. Oh, man. And that's the wildest shit, though. Shout out to LL Cool J. Yeah, man. Without that interaction, none of this shit would have happened. Yeah. All it takes is that. They just beat in a little piece of fucking. Yeah, they want to go play some fucking videos. Just how good of a DJ cut creator was, bro. You didn't even see him DJ. Not one fucking time. You didn't even see him around, no fucking music. But let me tell you what happened, though. But let me tell you what I did, like about three months after that, that fucking, what's my DJ's name? Cut creator. I heard that goddamn song, like, I know this nigga. Like, what? Like, bro, until you told this shit, like, I bet every time you have told that story, it was unbelievable until this point in time. Now people on the internet gonna be like, yo, I worked at the Atlanta airport back then. He is not lying. Somebody know. I'm saying I was up that bitch every weekend, bro. Like, just taking them fucking buggies back. Damn. You probably made first hundred thousand in quarters. That's one of the busiest airports in the world. I'm sure it was carts everywhere. Bro, listen, I feel like they stopped letting you get the quarters because of us. Like, they don't do that shit no more. Like, you can't go get no refund now. Like, we caked up. That's crazy, though. Damn. You ever run into LL Cool J again? I did. Did you tell him that story? I did. Did he remember it? No. He was like, I remember. He did it. You know what I'm saying? He did it. Atlanta? Okay, okay. Because he probably was doing shit like that. Like, everywhere. Like, buying little niggas. Walk man. Like, a walk man. Like, radio sack ass. Yeah. Young niggas don't know I'm doing never favor. They don't need that shit in me. Hey, you know what's crazy? Today LL's playing the seed. Today I bought this little hat from the dude, the water boy dude. They got these hats. Water boy's in the hood. I got it in the car now. Like, you got to support. You got to pay it forward. Okay. Wait until that one day they catch you with no money and they stun on you. You think them water boys out there are struggling. No, no, no, no. I didn't say it broke. I ain't broke yet. But no word about it. And he can't afford no water boy. Choker heart. Here you talking about it. Yeah. Hey man. I respect the hustle. It's fine. They'll keep it real with you though. Because they caught me. I ain't had no care. They're like, I wish you had no money. Go ahead, bro. What's it for with you on the show? They real, bro. Some of them. Like they grown. Some of them niggas that I'm saying. Some of them niggas just grown men. Because the niggas had me shaving under their necks. Hey man. They definitely had no shave bumps and stuff. I'm like, where are you? Bro, I can't shut up. Bro, go ahead. They like green, bro. They like green. Like green, bro. Go ahead. You asking way too much. Go ahead, bro. Yeah. And they gave me grown men eye contact. Like, oh no, I couldn't. All right. Let me get one of them hats. Man, them niggas take that shit serious too. They need you to just let them post up. Because I hit through the niggas fat all the one time. He was like, bro, you keep the water. They like, man, drink that damn water, bro. I had a head like this. Just drop them on the seat. I was like, I get it, bro. That's it. They care. I get it. They get it for me. That's how you got a name. They build a brand. Like that shit that made it out of Atlanta. Like the myth of like this mythology in LA. Just like Dallas Austin. Like everything in the world that didn't happen. He was right there. Yeah. You work with Dallas Austin? Yeah. How you run into Dallas Austin? Well, Dallas used to live in College Park. So it's like a skating rink. Like everywhere that niggas was at, Dallas was there. Right. Like, but he was just there. See? And that's what I was saying. Like he be everywhere that niggas be at. Yeah. Yeah. Like I think that might be the Atlanta superpower. Like the ability to be comfortable wherever you at. Like you get there. You're like, all right. I ain't finna disrespect nobody. I'm not gonna allow nobody disrespect me. It's gonna be fine. And you just enjoy it. Like we don't really go out of town in College Park. You don't hear about Atlanta niggas going somewhere and causing an uproar. It just don't happen. Man, that might be the coldest shit you said though, man. I hope all the niggas in all the other cities just peep the message. Man, learn how to fucking act. So much great shit can happen when niggas start acting right. That's it. Act right. Look, act right, man. I guess that's just the down south shit too, man. I mean, we crazy in our own right, but at least we, you know, it's a certain level of respect that's given before it's just disrespect. Yeah. And it's actually usually whatever energy you bring is gonna get met. Yeah. More than, um, yeah. It ain't even disrespect at that point. It's usually like self-defense. And the element of surprise too. Gotta do it every time. You know, sometimes you might be arguing with one motherfucking and then a hundred motherfucking turn around and you're like, all y'all with him? Yeah. Nah, I was just saying, man. I ain't tripping. He hopped at a niggie. Man, listen, I seen it like it's a, it was just club 559. Legendary comedy spot too. Absolutely. It's like, okay. Amateur Knight 559 comedy shit. It's a project next to it called Harrison. Come on. Okay. So niggas from Harrison would come to 559 and do Amateur Knight. The comedy? Yeah. Like they just come like at the bar. So it's just regular hood niggas and they would come. Like, you know how like, boy, you should do that shit. Them niggas. Like a gang of them. Yeah. And they would just come do it. So like they, they're not necessarily funny except for the, to the niggas who came with them because they know the joke. Right. Like, you know, a big head and niggas up. You know what I'm saying? And they talking about somebody specific. Right. So it's killing these niggas, but the, okay. Them three, the niggas roll. But so it's, this particular night is two dudes from New York. And it's 90s. It's like early 90s. Now, 94-ish, 95. This episode is sponsored by Blue Chew. Hey, what's up? It's your man Carlos Miller. I would just like to thank the good folks over there at Blue Chew for sponsoring this podcast. They sponsored this podcast and they gave us a special promo code for all of our listeners who get, you know, benefit from a little extra confidence where it counts. It's BlueChew.com. Use the promo code 85 self. Blue Chew brings you the first chewable with the same FDA approved active ingredients as Viagra and Cialis. So yeah, you need to get over there. To thebluechew.com. Blue Chew is prescribed online by licensed physicians. So you don't have to go to the doctor's office or waiting line at the pharmacy and it's shipped right to your door in a discreet package. You know, go use that promo code. Use the promo code 85 self. Blue Chew. You better go over there, man. I'm telling you, it's changing the world. It's prolific like that. Versace might have been just kicking off. Okay. So like Short Sets and Cartier. So they're some New York dudes. They're frustrated by not understanding the jokes. So one of them stands up and is like, yo, man, get the fuck off the stage. It like goes, you know, who's gonna hang out? And dude on the stage said, hey, buddy, hold on, hold on. Hey, where you from, y'all? He said, the bookie down. He said, oh, okay. So geographically, you're not really thinking this through. And he was like, huh? And he said, see, because the way I see it is, if some shit go down in the next five minutes, you got to call New York. I got to call the bar. And at this moment, he was like, what? He was about to woof back. His partner jumped up and knocked him clean out. Saved the both of them. His own homeboy knocked him. He fucked out. Clean, cold. Bro, that story was going like this in a big way. That's how, so the reason why he stood up is because when he said my folks at the bar, literally the whole club stood up like, yeah. It was the same. He went in defense mode. Yeah, he was like, bro. Oh, y'all think I'm with him? Yeah. Keep the show going. Who next from here is home? Yeah, yeah. Because Stan is nigga B. He's always fucking saying the wrong shit, man. No disrespect. No disrespect, son. I don't know. I don't know, son. By no, son, I was supposed to buy something from him. You don't understand. So I don't know, son. So when you wake up, I'm going to knock him back out. If the show ain't over. No disrespect. I'm not finished. He said the book, I'm from Harlem, son. Yeah. No. It never, it took a turn for him, man. Damn. That's some crazy shit. Comedy club always got some bullshit going though. If it's going to be like if they got a good headline, somebody get knocked the fuck out. Yeah, I didn't know that. Last show I had in Florida, I knew she was about to get crazy. They was laughing so hard. Lady Lene back, her whole goddamn wig fell off. I'm thinking she finna, you know, try to scramble and put it on. She just took the motherfucker off of ladies on her chair. Did I put it back on in a minute? This shit. She laughing hard in the mud, fuck it, man. Some ladies, she drunk, she mad. She get up, talking shit. She didn't came to set all on the stage. I'm thinking security about the cop. So she get up and get back walking around. This black lady just came up and was like, Bop! Knocked the ass out. They think it was about to throw her out. I was like, no, I don't throw her out. They threw the lady who got knocked out out. So as she get up, she still in the club, fucking with people. How about this shit, crazy? The white lady get up, slap this shit out of her. Everybody in the club cheering like a motherfucker. I was like, I gotta get the fuck out of here, man. Because if this shit make the news. Yeah. You did it. It wasn't me. It was the crowd. That's how Florida get down. Whatever brand of comedy you brought. Oh, yeah. That's when that shit started happening. This ass kicking the good. I'm about to switch it up. Do some dolphin jokes or something. This other shit too bout it, bout it. Y'all on the road. Y'all out now, right? Come on, man. You see it? We out here. Ghetto Legends tour. Yes, sir. Right up. Yeah, man. How's it been out there? Man, we taking it one step at a time. Like we been overdosing on white. Yeah. Yeah. Man, it's been all love. People miss the hell out of us, man. We went to Biloxi and sold them the 8,000 tickets, man. Just out there showing man love to the people who need it. One time for Biloxi. Yeah, exactly. Making came out and showed us love. Making us love. Hell, yeah. We got some cool shit coming over here, man. We just working. Okay. Yeah. We got motherfuckers like you coming through here, just dropping game on us, let us know the LL Cool J is out here buying Walkman's and that. For little kids. But what else strange that doesn't happen in this motherfucker? Man, I don't... That can't be the wildest shit that doesn't happen in the music industry. No, it's probably not. But that's a cold one, though. Yeah, that one applies to me, so I can, you know, I don't mind having to tell that story. Damn. That's the hell it would come up, man. That might have just been destiny for you to fuck with that music, then. No, absolutely. I feel like... Look, I'm not fighting it. Like, and I think that's the other one. I don't feel it. Like, if I felt it, it's honest, and that's what I'm roll with. Yeah. So, I feel like my discernment is in good standing because I don't really... Like, my intent is good. If you do good, good'll come to you. Yeah, you from the south. Real shit. That's why I'm on the top. What you mean? Like, I'm really from the south. I'm talking about, like, like with that water pump in the front yard. Yeah. That's the type of south. With that good cold air water in there? Yeah. That type of shit. Okay. I'm talking about, I'm so from the south. Like, our dog ain't never came in the house. You feel me? Yeah, that's the outside of the dog. I'm talking about, so from the south, when you can spend the whole weekend at your grandma's house and don't have no clothes. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's fine. Turn the things inside out. Exactly. I'm real south, bro. I'm talking about when your grandma and your mama, they open up all the doors when they fry chicken. You can smell that shit in the whole neighborhood. But it don't fuck the house up. Right. You know about that. I'm talking about, lay your school clothes out. Yeah, and not cause you choosing. It's cause it's what you're wearing. Right. Right. Yeah, it's real south shit. It's real south shit. Like, what go to bed? For real, for real. Take your ass to bed. I'm talking about real south, where you be like, I'm hot and they just be like, be still. Sit down somewhere. Be quiet. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. It's the real south shit. I'm talking about where the ice cream man just pull up and turn the van off. Mm-hmm. That's it. One stop. Yeah, first of all, it's cause the person with money gonna take about 10 minutes to come out of the house. One stop. Mm-hmm. And he ain't playing no ice cream man music. He playing Master C. Straight Gucci. Well, I'm sorry about that. He playing Gucci Lemonade. Yeah. That's the official who the ice cream man. I heard that. Lemonade in the free cup. Yeah, it's real shit. Damn. I've actually heard that. Hell yeah. Like I've heard that like recently. Yeah. Okay. Damn. Did they change it? I wonder where the fuck you buy an ice cream truck from. Ice cream. Trucks stole it. They got it on the hook. You ain't never rode past nowhere and they had a bunch of ice cream trucks out there for sale. I mean, where you get a mail truck at? They don't sell mail trucks, do they? I mean, they not about to have a mail truck. Unless you work for them, you got to work at the post office to buy an old mail truck. It's like a new drill for like ice cream niggas. I don't know. I think them niggas be making their own decals. But who put the fridge right there? Some of them don't have it. They just be a chain de-freeze in there bitch with a power converter. There's electrician too there. Amen. You do what you gotta do. You know what you gotta do. That's what it is. That's a hustle though to even find out who ice cream men work for. Where the ice cream came from? Exactly. These motherfuckers might be working for the federal government. Y'all talking about corona. And then they always talk about all the shit that they put in the projects in the ghetto. Won't nobody investigate where the fuck all that ice cream came from? You thinking about the ice cream? I don't know these niggas. They were all weird. Just to show up in urban areas in places that you couldn't get pieces delivered. In the middle of football games, I shit. About six o'clock when it's almost dark didn't even pull up. Ting-ling-ling-ling You can hear that music. Everybody know what the fuck that music is. Niggas the dope boy was like shit. Hey, little man. Shout out. Bring me a baseball glove with this bug on. What you want to move on? What you want? Yep. And then you remember all those ladies? They have kids getting shot because they didn't bring the dope boy his change back. Yo, little man. Where's my five dollars? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Pow-pow-pow. See kids. Why was he shocked? Because he was smoking crack. What? No, he tried to take that nigga Bundy. If we go back and watch that shit now, they probably commercials from the 80s and you see how like weird shit looking now, like the people that you bought shit from, like kids' minds from little pineapple cut white boys, like they hair was like, and they bangs like Justin Bieber. I'ma fuck you up. Remember that show Mr. Wizard? Yep. Creepy old white man, just pick up some random kids, take them to his house and do science experiments. This makes this LL Cool J story way weird or the way that you talk, like, when you think about it. LL Cool J in the airport. All these people trying to, yo, LL, can we get a picture? No, by the way, no, it wasn't even, he wasn't famous yet. This was, I need a beat, it wasn't videos. Oh. Like it wouldn't, like this is, I don't even, what was it like 80? This was real underground hip hop shit. Yeah, it's like, I need a beat. Like this is, this is death jam. 88, 89? Yeah, over early, like. 86? Yeah, that's a 10-11, yes. Yeah. Yeah, man. So it's like, he was really just, he was on the come up. He was just a good, harder dude, I guess, you know what I'm saying? He's still in the guy hustling. Let me buy that Walkman for over, I mean, how much, 40? All right, here you go, Shorty. Cause he had to know this shit was Radio Shack. It was like realistic. It probably said Radio Shack. It said realistic, like that's Radio Shack brand, whatever. He just probably just really needed one. He might have fucking been listening. One of the people listening to the demo of like the rest of the Radio Out. He was probably listening to the instrumentals and writing the rhyme. That's what I'm talking about. On your shit. Now that's a new face type shit. That is, like that guy, damn, new face. That's a new face type shit, man. Like, yeah, so 84 is, yeah. Damn. You really been out here in these streets. Yeah, I was 11, yep, I was 11. So you said, you're so deep in hip hop. How you get through in the studio with pink and shit like that? So I started doing it. You got a broad range of shit. I like music, man. I grew up, like, it wasn't an algorithm. Put us up on some shit that niggas might not know about, like some outside of the normal shit. What should, throw us some shit we can go fuck with? You mean like just? Basically some white people shit. That's some shit you know about that you wish more niggas knew about. You know what, it ain't even, I don't know if it's not a white shit, or nothing like that, but it's suggy odysse. Suggy odysse? Suggy odysse. You fuck with it? I know you're, see, I'm, okay. Oh yeah, he different. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like, the thing is, it's like a bunch of, it's like so much music, bro. Like, at this point, I don't even, like, my brain just, like, shut down when you ask that question. Damn. Like, there you go. New face, we done talked them up, that's crazy. New face is actually here. Suggy odysse. I'm gonna look it up. Yeah, I'm gonna think, who? See, I'm just in a different place. I'm really heavy money bagged y'all right now. You fuckin' money bagged? Y'all ain't dead now yet? I mean, yeah, I mean, well, he worked with us at, well, he worked with Pharrell in the net films. Tell him about this shit, man. Tell me about what you and Pharrell over there doing. Honestly, man, we just trying to keep contributing, bro. Like, that's obviously all it is. It's like the goal is to be able to contribute in and learn from, like, everybody. Like, the newer artists, the catalog artists, the classic, you know, the people we came up with, but like, making sure that, you know, there's a bridge of information and just, just the fundamentals get passed on. If Pharrell came on this bitch, I know this shit would blow up in Japan. You know how many people that is? A lot. It's Billy. Shh. Just don't know. Yeah, he popular, man. He popular everywhere. Like, Hattie was like a big song. I was just about to ask you, is he gonna do another one? He can't do another hat. How do you do it? He should do every emotion. I'm down. They gotta be hard. Yeah. Put Money Bear Yo on it. Nigga. What? Huh? Pusha? Brr. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, listen, man, anything is possible, bro. You be playing that shit? You be putting them up on shit? They're like the new shit? Yeah, but like, on some real shit, like for like, I think we all put each other on shit. Like he'll hit me with some, like, he might've hit me with Money Bag Yo one morning. Like, yo, you listen to this, I was already up on it, but the fact that he woke up at six in the morning, like, you heard this shit? Like, and then that's what happened. He actually went on his podcast, and he said, how much he like, Money Bag Yo, Money Bag's people reached out to me, and then we were like, well, yeah, let's get them together, and yeah, then we got two records on this new album. Fuck took you so long to say that, man. You just saw me pull up in the money, Carla. I know. You know I'll be listening to Money Bag Yo and that bitch. I just looked at my wrist, it got turned to date. I would use that voice when I rap and shit. Yeah, it's a good voice. It's a great voice to rap. Only like niggas, only like bitches, I don't like nobody. I don't backtrack, I don't miss nobody. Man, fuck everybody. That nigga cold, man. Yeah, man. This is a minute cold niggas out here, but every rapper that's rapping about some violent shit is getting life. I mean, listen, bro, like, especially when they rapping about it and it feel real. Shit, it is. That's the point. It be on video. Them niggas that go in the club, get to fight and shoot that bitch up, drop the coldest song the next day, put the surveillance camera video. In the video. They put the news clip, 16 people were shot at a local Atlanta nightclub last night. Y'all niggas know what it is. Niggas got shot, I had something to do with it. Niggas got shot, I had something to do with it. Niggas got shot, I had something to do with it. And I had something to do with it. Ordered a drink, about 12. Went to the car, changed my shirt, ain't got my gun. Them niggas be too detailed, bro. They get on the song, make the diss record. Not only talk about the shooting, but talk about the injuries and what a bullets hit that nigga, bro. Your homeboy talking shit, but the 12-gay hit him in the chest, came out of his breast cavity, hit him in the breast, came out the nipple, hit him back, now he paralyzed, hit him in the eye, he could see, I had on the disguise, I'm like, oh my God. It was Ronald Reagan, cause I know niggas don't know who that is. What? They tell you to count a bullet's day, you two, two, three, hit the car, engine cut off. What the fuck? Tell you a little part of my bed, ain't mean to step on his jeans. What? No, man, like, these niggas are too, they good at what they do. Yeah, man. But I'm just saying, if they just changed the subject matter and made it positive, it might even hit harder, bro. And I'm telling you, what if niggas just start rapping about shit that you never expected them to rap about? They started rapping about fucking solar systems and hitting planets and shit. Niggas started rapping about that hidden color shit. Actually, more people who know about that than there are who actually know how to sell crack. Like, everybody don't really know how to sell though. Niggas, crack really been out of style. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, it ain't really like the biggest population of people who don't do criminal shit. Do you understand like crack ain't even like a, selling crack ain't even a top profession no more? You can make more money as a YouTuber than you can selling crack. You can make more money doing live streams for two hours than you could selling crack for all weekend. Yeah. Yeah, it's not fly. Like, if you doing it, you just ain't, you just didn't develop like no new skills. Do you understand, you can trade Forex right now and make more money selling crack? Do you understand that people who sell crack make less than people who work for Amazon? Minus, that's not even including the benefits. No, there are no benefits. That's what I'm telling you. Think about one of the drug dealer dad. You don't. I'm just saying one thing we ever seen like one street nigga dad, the niggas they net worth be 16,000. Like you did all this in the streets. For 16,000 dollars they can't. They still doing GoFundMe? Fuck. Nigga, you own 12,000 on an escalade. So basically, all right, you did, you took all these chances for a 4,000 dollars money and some outfits. Amen, but go back Thursday though, for the rest of your life. That's what you did it for. Remember that? I mean, I remember when I was that boy. Nah, man, I don't shit. Cause I remember real drug dealers. Not saying that the drug dealers, nah, I'm just saying like drug dealers from the nineties and shit. When I was growing up, that shit looked like the life. It was like pre-internet, right? Man, before the internet came, man, the drug dealers just looked like they was having fun all the time. They had nice cars. They had fine women. They had the nicest animals. They had the best dogs. They were just, what the drug is? They were doing it. They might have had snakes. Everybody was outside. All the crackheads was outside, washing cars and shit. It was just a better environment when the drug dealers, when they was just put outside being drug dealers with the music playing and your uncle be like, hey, get your ass from over there. What? They not even selling drugs right now. I like this song. We're just in the neighborhood. I grew up with it. Get your ass sitting out. You know they sell drugs. They going to the jail. They going to the pen and all of them. Everybody, look at them. It was always that one old nigga who didn't approve. Y'all just gonna sit here and eat this barbecue that he bought with this drug money. Yeah. Do you want to rip? Hell yeah, I want to rip. I'm just saying. I thought y'all wouldn't give me a... It's back when the drug dealers gave a fuck about the community. Yeah, they had to. Just saying. But they didn't have a side hustle getting like doing Instagram live. They need this. But they can't be on Instagram live talking about the shit they did while they were selling drugs. They do though. But you can't. I'm trying to tell that. Like they're doings, they're drugs, they're like, all this stuff is on the live. Stop doing that. Stop doing that. That's what I'm gonna act right. I tell my fucks all the time. You know, don't record me doing shit there legal. Well, see, my thing is I just don't do it. Me either. No. Yeah. But I'm just saying. Yeah, it's not worth it. I need to be in a safe environment. By the way, the trap is a very, like I feel so safe here. It is safe. It feels like. Yeah, it's because not that we're doing, we're just trapping media out of here. That's all it is. It's the 85 South Show. This is the number one rated black show amongst people who brother, who used to sell drugs, man. Like when they do the polls, they get real specific. You asked any black woman named Kiki what her favorite show is? This one. Yeah, that ass. But I mean, this is a dope show, man. Like y'all actually like y'all put, like cause I'm again, like I'm, I don't know, I'm not famous. Yes you are. None of them. Look at this. Look at all the shit he did y'all. No, it's me at work. Nick was in the studio with Pink. You famous. I work. White people like you in this music industry, you good. Somebody was like, you know who we need? KP. Somebody get KP on the goddamn phone. Okay. That's it. Actually by the way, that was LA, a black person did that. But he told the white dude, cause you know he had a white dude, proud name Zach doing. Zach, do you me a favor? Call KP. My favorite. Let's get KP on this. Okay, I like that story. Y'all, I made it up. I like it, Zach. What was that? Hell yeah. You shot out the LA read though, man. He put a lot of black people in position. Like yeah, bro. Like him and his crew came to Atlanta and brought like some infrastructure. Yeah. Like to a bunch of talented people and gave like real outlets. Which one you met first? LA read or babyface? I met Pebbles first. Pebbles. And she introduced me to LA and then I met babyface last. So when you was meeting them, did you understand you was meeting some of the titans of the music industry right then? No. I knew that these people had some cars I had never seen. They had these funny trucks. Like they had Range Rover's back when I didn't know what a Range Rover was. So I was like, man, they got spaceship trucks. So I was just listening cause I was like they had shit. Right. And I was like, I've seen that in a movie. That's a good reason. Drop that. Look, listen to people who have shit that you don't have. They know some shit that you don't know. Pierce, look at that. Especially if you want the shit. But clearly you need to. That's why they do start making them in their videos where he go up to people like, hey man, what you do? And the people they know about the shit now now they want nobody to tell them for real. Oh, I install aquariums. White people be lying about their job there like you're gonna show up and take that motherfucker. They be making up shit. I hang up home decor. Don't tell black people that you can make money doing this shit. Secret job having ass, man. It's a cold ass ring, man. You play for the Lakers or something. My granddad. Your granddad put you up on that? Yeah, he gave it to me. He left me this. That's a family heirloom. You wore it to the trap. You see, that's special. Absolutely. Your granddad, that's his ring? It was. He a real one. It was. What was he doing to have a ring like that? Just kind of ring shit. Just let the car game talking shit. I don't need your little money, nigga. My grandson, nigga, worked with Mariah Carey, motherfucker. Niggas got damn cars again. Niggas bring this motherfucker big. You think I give a shit about this brand new truck I sat? Mother fucker, man, speak right. That's a bit off. Granddad is talking big shit. That's a hard-ass ring, though, man. Yeah, he's a good dude. Did you miss your granddad? Yeah, man. I was telling him about my granddad on here the other day, man. Yeah, that was my real dad. For real. I was telling him how my granddad's draws ain't never fit. Whole life. That's funny. Draws was too big. I don't know what he could have did if he would have had the right size draw. Niggas, you just know he chafed up, like. I am just saying I just know he wasn't comfortable, man. Box of Breeze. What do they have Box of Breeze? Now, you know, he just wore straight, old man draws. Yeah. Tidy white as them old ones. Old for a long with just the blue stripe. Yeah. The blue stripe and the gold stripe. Old as draw. Made out of T-shirt material. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is it. Now, man, like, yeah, my granddad is like, he was that. His draw's fit. That's how he had that ring. Yeah, yeah, he draw's fit. Like, I can't even grab it. My granddad's dad left me a pocket knife. I can't get a nail ring. Taking all my shit with me. He wore the. He had the bitch on him. Tried to get it off. They had reinforced it, motherfucker. Yeah, no, man. So, so, OK. What? I'm just like, I'm just, I don't want to be, I don't want to be the, like, who is this nigga on here on the couch? This nigga, this is who he is. He's responsible for all this shit. It's some more shit. Nah, man, you ain't going to be that nigga. It's just dope to know that it's dope as people around him, man. And all the shit that you did, all your accomplishments made this shit right here possible, man. All that work y'all put in and made the city hot. And it's like, the light that y'all brought to the city is still here. You get what I'm saying? This shit's still going on. It's somebody that's, you know why all these studios that around here, and this three mile radius is 30 studios. You don't know what the fuck going on tonight. Yeah, I grew up on Deal, up the street. Like, this is like, like, just seeing all this shit grow is like, amazing. Exactly. Ain't I on a peel? Right down, right there. Come on, man. Yeah, I mean, it's a testament to how many talented people in Atlanta, man. Everybody talented. You might fuck around and be getting some Waffle House and then come right back. I ain't brought no disrespect. Y'all get through eating like a rat for you. And be fired. Be fired in the motherfucker. And be from somewhere you ain't never heard of. Shit, I'm from God damn book, Tulsa, Georgia. We just came off DB. Oh, you know shit. Trapping this shit, man. I'm going to tell my mom that you're fucked. You got your screw? I don't really fuck with it like that. Come on, fuck it up. But I'm going to tell my mom that, though. I'm on there. I hit you. She'd be locked. Man, fuck her. I ran into a nigga in the gas station like that a couple months ago and hit him. And then he played me so, so low. I was like, damn, man. OK. Damn. He didn't even know. I don't know if he knew or not. I just know that he really was not interested. Damn. Like, I think. But it made me laugh in a way that made me kind of proud too. It's like, I like that people now know that they have the power to do their own shit. Part of being great. Yeah, it's like, man, dude, like, bro, I got a shot at. And what he said made me, it was like, it was almost made me feel hopeful. Like, on some end of a movie shit. And he was like, you know what, I'm going to take my time doing my thing, get the folks to go mess with me as they mess with me. I was like, all right, bro. I would take forever to do that shit, but whatever. Yeah, I would say that. You bet. No. I don't know. See, none of you know how you make it. Amen. But you know, amen, that's what I'm saying. It's enough information I have now for people to be right and wrong. That's what I've been trying to tell them is, like, it's enough information I have for people to be right and wrong. And you are wrong. You have to know that you're wrong. You're fucking up. Don't nobody want to hear about that part. You're fucking up. You're going to make some good decisions and you're going to make some bad ones. That's part of the game. But that one right there, you, that was a bad one. You fucked up. All this goddamn Google out here and you still don't know nothing. Hey, man, these smartphones are going to make smart people. I'm just saying, at least get a second opinion. Hey, buddy, what you think? Buddy hit me. What a name it, man. Hold up. Oh, shit. Burn that nigga from up. Put it up. Niggas. Shout it out. You know? Me call a Saudi bag right now. It's going to be normal. I think nobody should know unless they care. I feel like you should care enough. If you don't care enough to know, then shit ain't for you. Like, I might learn some shit about what you're trying to do. I know. But I'll be watching Walter Krunkik and shit. One day they're going to give me a late night talk show because I know how to talk to niggas. And they're going to have to come through me because I'm the only one over here prepared. Welcome back to daily nightly black news. Probably be having a great holiday. Great to hang out. Great to hang out. So I can look more believable. Yeah, get you some glasses. Today we have KP music. You make productions, don't you? Yeah, that type of shit. You'll be like the nigga whisperer. Right. Yeah, like whenever they need a Negro, I'm like... They're going to have... At some point, I know that they're going to need an older black man. And I'm from Mississippi too, so... They might just be like Reverend Carlos Miller. Reverend Good Doctor. Yeah, but you can't see, like, they're like an older black man who don't want to be popular. So you can't really look up at the camera. You got to act like you're shuffling something. Today, in black people news, looks like we're going to be black forever. Don't change, don't try. But don't tell no lies. Some shit. I know my purpose is deeper. I got you. Yeah, so you got to research. Right. That's another one. You got to research. Clarence Avon, Gerald Busby, Russell Simmons, Andre Harrell. You know, and when I got to know L.A. Reed and Babyface, like, then I started digging into, like, their history, like, with people like Dick Griffey and people they came... That's a cold name, bro. Dick Griffey. It was gangsta. It sounded like it. Yeah, but it's like... So you start figuring out these stories and start figuring out the similarities of, like, the work, you know, and the people and the character and the character you had to carry if you want to maintain. So it's like... I looked at the people whose music I liked and looked at the people who were behind that. Like, I just read, like, I read credits, then I read biographies on those people if they come up. So it's just like, get as much information and that way you kind of find out that it's different as special as you are, that different, that you're not that special. You know what I mean? So it's like, but all these special people did this much work. Yeah, yeah. I read Miles Davis biography and when you think about practices... That motherfucker was a... Yeah, but he practiced. Everything, but he was just... He had so much fucking time. He could literally do everything. Yeah, everything. He was a superstar. Like, and that's what I'm saying. He was a superstar and that. Like, everybody, if you figure out your thing, you can be a superstar. Welcome back to the 85 South South. And this is my thing. Yeah, that is. Yeah. I'm hanging in there like they're rocking me. That been not hit me. K.P., bro. Don't let this be the last time you fuck with us at the trap, man. Cat got a question? Yeah. What was it? Two years ago, 2018, so I became Pharrell's music director. See how you don't be telling us shit? Okay. That's the shit I'm talking about, bro. It's too regular to you. No, this is not regular, by the way, to me. Like, this is like one of the moments. Okay, bet. Okay, so I've never done music... Supervised before. Like, in the music director, that's what I was. Music director for his band. Now, I'm not a musician. I'm a DJ, but I'm like... I know how I like to hear his music. I'm like, if you drop it like this, like, the crowd will do this. And, you know, so he was like, well, why don't you put my shoulder together? So he ended up doing that. And then he, in turn, asked me to come DJ for him on the road. Okay, so that's like cool. Then, fast forward, we ended up doing this festival called Something in the Water. And it was an idea he had where he wanted to just bring, you know, like, like tourism into Virginia Beach where he's from. And it was around the time that they'd usually do Black College Week, like Beach Week in Virginia. We wanted to figure out a way to program and give them something to do when they were there because every other time they come, something would happen, like, you know, kids, restless, silly shit happened. So we, like, let us program it cool. The shit went over well. We did the show and we did a Pharrell & Friends set in the show. And I'm the DJ. So Pharrell's friends are Jay-Z and, you know, so at one point, so that night, we're doing the show and we're bringing people on. And Jay-Z, I'm looking, I'm sitting on stage, I'm DJing, and I looked up and I realized I'm DJing for Jay-Z and Pharrell. Like, and Jay-Z's like my favorite rapper, but I kept thinking back, at that moment, I was thinking back to getting turntables and, like, how this shit, these turntables got me to, you know, rockin' for 40,000 people, but being the DJ for, like, icons, cultural icons. L.L. Cool J, put you cool. You know what? That's the name of my book, L.L. Put Me On. L.L. Put Me On. The full circle of that. Yeah. Because, like, if you go back and you look shit, L.L. Cool J went on to become of the same status, you know what I mean? A goddamn C like that. He's one of the greatest, like, and most accomplished, like, didn't fall off. Like, he acted one of the first successful hip-hop artists. Like, for real, life successes. Got a radio station, you know, rockin' the bells, and, like, yeah, it's, like, hip-hop is dope. It really is. Yeah, I feel like that's my, like, I'm... So when you realize you DJing for Jay-Z and Pharrell, did you fuck up a little bit? Like, oh, shit, hold up, let me get back. Absolutely not. Hell no. That would've made that... Man, that would've made the worst... Oh, wait a minute. Hold on, oh, you ready? Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, wait, wait, no. Which one? Shit. Ah, goddamn L.J. Shit. No, nigga, I'll continue. No, nigga, you don't, because I'm looking at you with this shit. I'm like... Oh, nigga! Be honest with you, nigga! Okay, alright, alright. Alright, alright, alright. Alright. I'm ready. Nigga! Fuck that. They got some point. Did you say when I'm not fuckin' up? When the light on like that? No. I practiced. Like, I practiced. I'm not going to know. Nuke. Like, I'm too hard on myself for that. There you go. Stay focused. That shit would've been hard to contain. Man, it would've been horrible, bro. Like, to go all this time with a good name and shit and beat a nigga fuckin' up the Pharrell and J.C. show. Amen. No. Because that could happen at any moment. You could be doing too good. In the middle of one of those breaks, J.C. would be like, yo, who's your man? Yeah. He's dope. He's dope. I like him. And then he'd be like, ahh! Okay, right this way. Back off! Watch this shit. Man, this shit. He goes crazy. He's nuts, B. Nah, man. But, yeah. I don't know. See this shit like that, man? Where else you gonna hear that from? Somebody got this similar story. No, the fuck they don't, bro. LL Cool J-Man bought one Walkman. They ain't no niggas. They ain't no bunch of niggas out here with a story about the time they was DJing for Pharrell and J.C. Niggas don't be knowing. Niggas don't know what to do with Pink in the studio or her shoes off. They don't know what she wanna hear. Pharrell one of the coldest niggas to ever make some music. And he was like, yo, put my show together. Like, nigga, I don't know. What you feel like doing today, bro? I mean, you got those snow boots in the fur coat. What you want me to do? Pharrell, just do happy a bunch of times and let's get the fuck out of here. Man, if these niggas like everything you like, they trust you. It ain't no work to this shit. If you went to a Pharrell concert and you think it just did 16 songs, you ain't never heard. You be like, nigga, that new shit that Pharrell got? Shit. You be like, oh, that was from the old album. What? When that shit come out? It's my shit from 96. What? He has music like that. Yeah. He got a song where everybody is good at music. Yeah. I mean, he's good at music. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's it? When you got a nigga who got this many hits, how you going to arrange this shit and make a show? He literally got 50 songs that will turn the fucking arena upside down. But he wasn't really playing them. Like, because I think that's, like, you know, you get tired. You know, I don't know. You just, like, you get numb to your shit, like, I wouldn't if I, you know, I don't know. But I guess. Yeah. He don't know. He's like, man, what shit, what song do you think they like? But his songs be too big, bro. They huge. You fucking play happy around him. He be like, yo, turn that shit off. How you mad at me? I'm a hitter. Don't disrespect. Play some more shit, but don't play that. Nah, you better be able to. Nah, you got to appreciate happy. Shit, I'm telling you. He probably get a royalty check just by us mentioning it. I mean, sing it. I'm not going to. Because then my shit, my shit fucking around, it'd be too dope and they won't let it come out. Like, the C-Lo shit. New Face, did you know it's a C-Lo green version of happy? You heard it? New Face might have this in his bag. You heard it? Is it out? Can you find it on the internet? He got it on his computer. Shut the fuck up, New Face. Hey, by the way. New Face gonna set up one of them old tape diggers. Hold on, you on the head. Hold on. Lying this tape up. I got a dad of it. What you bring, New Face? Oh, yeah, come on, bro. What you got over there? Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I was just talking about it briefly. I don't know what's wrong, you know. See? So this is a group I was in, a parental advisor. May everybody know about PA? I don't know, man. Okay, so first of all, it's the 20-year anniversary of my series. So that's crazy. Fuck those niggas that be holding the wall. Shout out to Tiff, what's up? Yeah. Yeah, this is crazy. This is the first time I've worked with him, actually, on this. Oh, no. No, you don't have to call this one after that. I'm sorry. But like the first rap shit, like, like this I felt different about because he was signing my label and I'm like, yo, you'll work on this thing, this new dude I got, and he heard it and was like, yo, he's crazy. And yeah, so Tiff, yeah. And he's just been this nigga this whole time. That's the shit I love. Right. That song went crazy. Got it for real. Oh, wow. With Tiff and Beanie Man? Yeah, Mixed by Dural. I forgot about that. Yeah, it's crazy. This bad mind, you get shot anyway. Okay. Oh, yep. Got over here. Yeah. First. Shake him off. I feel like Shake Him Off is first thing. It's the first thing. Young Bloods. Yep. First group signing to Ghetto Vision. Let's see what's that. Ghetto Vision ain't real no more. Picture that. ATL is remix. Oh, wait a minute. Listen to KT. Cat and KP. Yeah. Oh, shit. That was the bad boy remix. ATL is hilarious. Yeah, I mean, I am. What? It's all your work, man. Come on. Yeah, shit. It was just talking about Yellow Wolf. New face. You know Yellow Wolf used to pull up at the Camelot Toe Contest at Dance Delete. By itself. By itself, bruh. I'm telling you, bruh. For real, I used to host the Camelot Toe Contest. That's funny as shit. Yeah, Yellow Wolf used to pull up. That's about right. Yeah, with the crazy ass haircut, with the little rat tail shit in the back, Mohawk on the side, shit. Oh, yeah. You ain't even talking about the Kendrick shit. Man, listen. That's the thing that I feel like is, I'm probably just grateful to be a part of, because it's like, at the moment it hit, and what it stood for, what it means now for... It's an anthem now. It's like, it's a black song. I feel like it's like, that's like a good... Tell them what song you're talking about. Oh, I'm sorry. All right, by Kendrick Lamar. Yeah, it's like, being a part of that, it's like, that actually, I think, is one of the moments where you know how some shit happens, and it's like, oh, this changed this shit. Yeah, it changed the trajectory of the movements, and the marches and protests, and it changed the place of the anthem on that moment. You know, like, when Jesus... My president's black. Yeah. It changed, like you said, it changed the culture, and it went this way. Yeah, so, I mean, you know, that's just one of the things. It's like, again, it's like, I guess the other part is just like, stay true to you and your people. Like, because, like, for real, this relationship starts, I'm serious to this, you know what I mean? So it's, it's, you know, I think you... At least 20. That's 20. Yeah, so it's like, you know, like, I feel like, you know, we all done been through ups and downs, and we done been hot, not hot, you know, and realize that it's no real, like, the hot shit is like, somebody made up to make you feel like it's a cure about if you dope. And once you realize it's like, man, just be creative, like, just do the shit that you love doing. Like, don't put, don't, don't, you won't even give a fuck about the time that time goes by. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's funny. No, it's, hey, man. No, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, man, you're a real one, bro. I appreciate it. And your contributions to the game shall not be overlooked. I don't know how many other platforms you've never been on, but it's an honor and a privilege to have you over here in the trap on 85 South Show. Hey, man. Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate it, dude. I'm, like, this is one of the ones that I'm like, I'm, like, I told my kids I'm like, yo, I'm being on 85 South. Like, it's, like, it's some cool shit. I did the same thing before I got here. It started on me. Like, yeah, when I used to come over here, I used to do that shit. But no, yeah. But, oh, man, this shit is like, this is dope to me. Like, so I appreciate y'all having me up here and, you know, kicking it with y'all in the trap. Oh, man, wait till this shit come out and then your people going to hit you and be like, nigga, I didn't know you were on that beat. Why you ain't telling about that time? You forgot to get Monica Sandwich and she wouldn't. Yeah, for her, I ain't got no story like it. No, I'm just fucking with y'all. I mean, no disrespect. I would. I mean, if Monica Sandwich was my nigga. We got to get her up here, man. I been trying to get her up. She said she was coming. I'm surprised she ain't been up here. She said she was coming. She was coming. She's, she's, she's very home in the trap. She out. I know. She love ghetto shit. That's when they got up. I was hosting a shit show one night. She pulled up. She had her own microphone. I don't know how the motherfucker was hooked up to the club. Shit already. She had her own gold microphone. She pulled that motherfucker out. She walked in the club with a fur coat on. Every trap nigga in there was damn near crap. I'm talking about, they was about to crash. She sung three songs. A flop, two or three songs, didn't she? Three. Three songs. I'm talking about sound like the CD. Nah, I mean, she, she, you know, she that, she that, she that one for us, man. Exactly. Like, yeah, she, she's a real one. Like, she, she's always come through. Like, she came through like for a, Neptune just did some records on her new project coming out. Like, they just dropped one with her and Lil Baby. There's some, you, okay. What I was about to say is like, and she has always come through. Like when I DJ, like I do these and friends sets. And like at one music press of the idea that Monica came out on it. And it's just like the way that people love Monica, it's like, it's like a Tupac level shit. I'm telling you, man, she wanted to, I don't even know how to explain it, but that is real. It's definitely, that's all I got. It's like, I'm talking about when she walked in the room, everybody loved her. They saw her smiling and shit. Like, man, the whole shit changed. They saw her talking, calling them more and shit. I'm like, oh man, like, like people love Monica. For real, for real. And you can see her, she be everywhere, man. She love her back. Like that's what it is. It's like the fact that she genuinely gives love. That's what comes back from that. That's why she gotta come up here. She got to. Well, look, man, don't let this be the last time you come, bro. That's the first time. Hold up, wait a minute. Pause. Don't let this be the last time you come to the trap. Shit. Can't say shit no more. Yeah, I don't, I, who got the craziest, I don't know who has the craziest process that I work with because everybody has like, everybody's like, has their own special shit. Like, like tip doesn't write, you know, but people do that. But it's like to, to think about when he's doing them other voices and like this was, you know, when he first started doing it, this wasn't like the everyday conversation that you don't write shit. But I don't know, man. I think everybody is, oh, what, what? Huh? Oh, oh, that's funny. Like, so we, okay. One time for Courtney Seales in the house. What up? Why are you over there? You saved me? Yeah. Bear, bello, why don't you might as well come over here now? You might as well come over here now, bro. He's just chilling. Yeah, sure. Okay. So we had Yellow Wolf, we were managing together and, and when we were toward the, what was it, Radio Active? Oh, there it is. So when we were working on Radio Active, we ended up working with Eminem. So I got to call you and him to get Yellow Wolf up here. Yeah. Hit him? Yeah. You don't tell me to hit him because you know I don't got his number. I got you. No, no. You gonna need, you gonna want to get him up here. Yellow Wolf is partying from the strip club before they told. That's the elite down to come up here and fuck with me. He gonna know who you talking about. Cause he used to be in now. He know. He gonna know. At the camera talk contest and shit. When he was on his Atlanta shit and he used to pull up. I remember it was me, him and Jackie Chan and shit. And we were smoking one night and then Yellow Wolf had a lot of weed and he kept rolling up and I was like, bro, why we smoking these big ass joints and shit. And it was crazy. What up? It was a lot. He know though. Just tell him. So watching this dude Eminem, like we were laughing, not laughing, but just talking about the fact that he just sits on a treadmill and runs and writes raps, listening to a Walkman. It might be the LL Cool J Walkman. What the fuck do you run on the treadmill and write raps at the same time? But like running though. Like not like. More speed. Like you run. Right. At the same time. No. You just see him. Like he just saying he's just like listening to the beats and that's what he's, I guess that was like. That's some white dude as shit. Because this is a man of a white dude. You remember the high school is the one crazy white boy used to run down the hall real fast. Yeah. Damn. Eminem. Maybe he be trying to like make sure he gonna have enough. The same. The same shit. Hey. There you go. Damn. That's why he don't fuck up none of that shit. Cardio. That might be the other. Y'all can really just tell him he's better than most of the people. He don't really have to do all that. He's already. That's how you be better though. Right. Like he's perfectionist. He's a perfectionist dude. Like and this shit you won't hear. I won't hear it. But he hear it. So yeah. I mean, hey. Bro. So. That's some genius type shit, bro. You got a little geniuses today. Y'all need to stop recording your verses so fast. And do some cardio. And do some cardio. Learn your lyrics. Yeah, learn your old song. A lot of rappers don't know their lyrics. Hmm, I hear it. It don't be that. I hear it. I hear it. I hear it. I hear it's a thing. You mention a concert. You know the part where they be like. Hey. Yeah. They don't know. I mean they doing so many goddamn songs though, bro. They doing like how do you remember all them songs? You wrote them? No. Or did you? Oh. Oh. They yours? You should. You should know them. You should at least have a general idea. At least a verse where you could be like. All right. Cut that shit off. Do the part you like. You can't do your part. Yeah. Yeah. It's different. I mean, but they don't have to. Listen. They don't have to. The amount of shit you don't have to learn to come out with a record. Like I think that might be the only like thing I wish that. There was just more interest in learning the craft. Like just a little bit more like the longevity is just in it. Like you said, like you can get hot by just doing some violent shit. But usually that shit's short. It happens just as quick as it blew. It should go unless you actually put some time in and learn something. Like learn the skill in it. Like have some fundamentals. Right. But, you know, that's my old man. I remember shit for the day. Hey, well, I dropped plenty of old man shit in here. This is the 85% show. And we have this bitch. New face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, man. Nothing but the dope. You ready? Hold up. Get a shot. Get a photo. Yeah. Get a shot. Are we going to do some shit over here? Breaking news. We got breaking news here. Hi. I'm Carlos Miller, live here on the scene at The Trap. And we have some breaking news. We just have a tour date that's been added to the ghetto legends tour. Yes. Hold on. I'm getting more information. That's right. Saturday, December 18th at the Fox Theater in Atlanta, 85 South Show. Yeah. That's right. The return of the ghetto legends. Saturday, December 18th at the Fox Theater. Go to 85SouthShow.com for all your ticket updates. Back to you, Kat.