 Good morning to everyone connecting from BC. Good afternoon to our panelists connecting from the Eastern Canada and Europe. Warm welcome to the webinar, what you need to know to export BC grown cherries to the EU and UK markets. My name is Dana Drost. I'm manager in the trade policy and negotiations branch, BC Ministry of Jobs, Economic Recovery and Innovation. I'm joined today by my colleague Benjamin Poliznik, senior manager in the same branch who will be assisting us with the tech and Q&A session. So before I begin, I'd like to acknowledge that I'm speaking today from the territories of the Likwungen speaking peoples, the Esquimalt and some Geese First Nations. And I'm thankful you're able to attend today from the territories and communities in which you leave work and play. Our today's webinar will focus on the expert requirements for cherries grown in BC and shipped to the European Union and British markets for the current season. We are very fortunate to be joined today by several experts in the field from the several federal government departments as well as trade commissioners on the ground. I'll do a quick intro now. Cara Smith, Acting Deputy Director at the International Affairs Branch, Market Access Secretariat, Charlene Green, Horticulture Market Access Specialist with Canadian Food Inspection Agency, Lynne Fortein, Agricultural Chancellor at the Canadian Mission to the European Union, Yannick Daly, Trade Commissioner at the Embassy of Canada to France, and Paul Envericove, Senior Policy Analyst with Pest Management Regulatory Agency of Canada. Dear panelists, thank you so much for taking time out of your busy schedule today for joining this session. So before we get started, I'd like to go over the agenda and a few housekeeping items. So the webinar will last approximately one hour and there will be three presentations. We will start with a short intro into the Canada-European Union Free Trade Agreement and why the EU-UK markets matter for BC Cherry Industry. We'll then move to a quick presentation on the pest of concerns for the EU and systems approach before we dive into the details of maximum residue limits for the European and UK markets. So these three presentations will be delivered by Cara, Charlene and I, and the last approximately 30 minutes. We have reserved 30 minutes for Q&A session after presentations and please use the Q&A function at the bottom of your screen to raise questions and you may ask those throughout the event. Please be as specific as you can and if possible also indicate who you are directing your question to. Yannick from the Embassy of Canada to France can be with us until 9.40 Pacific time so we'll give him a chance to go first. So the session will be recorded and presentations will be made available in a post-event email and if you experience problems with audio or other technical issues, please send in a message using the chat function below and direct it either to Ben or myself. So let's start with the Canada EU comprehensive economic and trade agreement CETA and CETA is Canada's most ambitious trade agreement and it covers a lot of sectors and aspects of trade. It eliminates trade barriers between Canada and the European Union. So the EU is the world's largest single market and largest integrated economy. It is market of approximately 440 million consumers and accounts for over 25 trillion dollars in GDP. CETA has been provisionally enforced since September 2017 and what this means is that most of the agreement about 95% is in effect. Canada and the EU will bring CETA into full force once each EU member ratifies it. So far 15 out of 27 EU member states have ratified it. So the EU is a valuable market for BC cherries and a number of BC exporters have taken advantage of it in the recent years and the value of BC cherry expert to the EU varied from 1.5 to over 2 million dollars per year since the CETA entry into force. So CETA helps to increase the experts of BC cherries and makes them cheaper in the EU market by eliminating the ad valorem component of customs tariffs. Canadian cherries are subject to minimum entry price per 100 kilos only if their price is lower than the minimum entry price set out by the EU authorities that varies by season. To claim the preferential tariff under the CETA it is important to certify the Canadian origin of your cherries and you can see the specific wording on this slide with the phrase that the exporter of the product is covered by these documents. So there are some caveats and CETA of course is not a magic one to all trade issues. For example the process of recognition of general of regional conditions for plant pests under the CETA is still not finalized and will be agreed at a later date at least when it comes to cherries. And also CETA does not regulate the control of pesticide residues in plant product intended for human consumption but I'll stop here and let Charlotte and Carla and Cara tell you more about it. So I just wanted to say a couple of things on the UK market. You might have heard that the United Kingdom left the European Union and the CETA stopped applying to the UK market since January 1st this year but since April 1st trade continuity agreement between Canada and the UK entered into force and this trade continuity agreement is not a new and not a brand new trade agreement and it essentially rolls over CETA's benefits and this role is to maintain the CETA benefit while Canada and the UK negotiate a new proper trade agreement. So what does the Brexit mean for BC cherries? Well it also means that there are no tariffs on cherries which is a good thing. The rules of origin provisions are the same as under the CETA but you need to fill in an origin declaration instead of the CETA certificate of origin and you can follow the embedded link in the presentation to find out more. So from January 1st 2021 an independent pesticide regulatory regime is in operation in Great Britain which is England, Scotland and Wales and the new decisions taken under the new regime will no longer apply in Great Britain and this includes the active substances and maximum residue level decisions and any new plant protection products legislation and it is important to note that the Great Britain sets MRLs based on their own assessment but all existing new MRLs remain valid until they are amended. So last but not least here is the website where you can contact the single window agri-food trade services and ask to address market issues or barriers that block your products from certain markets. You can also get the information about latest senator and fit a senator measures, tariffs, labeling requirements and other similar rules that can affect your potential expert of Canadian cherries to other markets and you might also think that others probably experience already the same barrier and have already raised it but that's not necessarily true and the government wants to get the additional information from you the additional details and to know that there are more businesses that affect it so we strongly encourage you to use this service. And here is my last slide with the contact details and if you only take one thing away from this presentation I hope that if you have any questions about the CETA or Canada UK trade agreement or any other Canada trade agreements or how to use them you can get in touch with us and we also have managers for agri-food in our division Adriana and Sebastian who will be happy to to assist you should you have any questions or interest in specific markets and you'll find their content details on this slide as well. So with this I now pass it over to Charlene Green from the Canadian food inspection agency for her update. Charlene, over to you. Thank you Ghana. Okay if you can go to the next slide. All right so I'm just going to do a brief overview I'm not going to get into too many details but the the pest of concern to the European Union are cherry fruit worm and cherry fruit fly. If you are interested in exporting to the United Kingdom cherry fruit fly is not a pest of concern their only pest of concern is cherry fruit worm. And the the first part of the requirements that both producers and packing hoses need to meet is they need to register with the CFIA before the growing season by signing and submitting a compliance agreement to the CFIA. And there are also specific pest mitigation measures for both growers and packing hoses so in the orchards growers will need to set traps for both pests of concern and monitor those those traps and packing houses the the mitigation measures include storage and sorting procedures and all of those requirements are laid out in in the compliance agreement and for for the export of phytosanitary certificate is needed from the CFIA. So next slide Ghana and because there are specific time frames where the the traps need to be placed in the orchard it's a good idea to contact your local CFIA office well in advance of when you would like to export so that they can get you the compliance agreement and also review the requirements for for export so that is the the best thing you can do is reach out to your local CFIA office let them know that you're interested and then they can go over the the specific requirements and also get you the compliance agreement. Thank you Ghana short and please. Thank you thank you Sharlene thanks for your quick update on on this and with this I will now pass it over to Cara Smith acting deputy director at the international branch with the market access secretariat so Cara the floor is yours. Thanks Ghana getting my screen up here I presume you can see it now and you'll stop me if you can't so good morning my name is Cara Smith and I am coming to you from Ottawa Ontario I work for agriculture and agri-food Canada and the market access secretariat so I'm the one who answers those emails when you follow the link that Ghana showed so today we're talking about the European Union it is a complex market the process for setting emeralds is different in the EU than it is in Canada while you shouldn't concern yourselves with the regulatory process too much I will try to explain so as part of the assessment process the European Union uses a hazard based criteria to identify and remove pesticides with certain characteristics from the market in contrast Canada regulates pesticides based on risk to human health and the environment this means that the EU automatically bans anything that demonstrates a CMR which stands for carcinogenicity mutagenicity reproductive toxicity and or endocrine disruption properties the hazard based approach does not consider exposure to the pesticide to determine the risk what this means for growers is that the maximum residue limit MRLs set in the EU may not always align with Canadian MRL set by Health Canada this means close attention must be paid when using pesticides on products destined for the EU market as Ghana mentioned the United Kingdom has since left the European Union but has adopted all EU sanitary and phytosanitary regulations for the time being this means that the MRLs for all pesticides authorized in the EU remain the same for exports heading to the UK market this all being said exporting to the EU is tricky to navigate and it requires research and planning the following slides are brief analysis of the Canadian MRLs compared to those in the EU have organized them into three categories to help demonstrate products that aren't welcome in the EU ones that need precision and caution and others that have relatively similar MRLs and of course always respecting the prescribed label uses at the end of the day it's all about the MRL found at the farm gate so on this slide you can see a list of products that the EU has effectively banned these products from being used domestically or on food imported into the European Union and the United Kingdom in many cases the PMRA has approved the substances to be used sparingly however i'll point out that dimethylate malatheon propagonazole pyridobin where there is a large discrepancy between the Canadian MRLs and the European however there are some products that the PMRA has authored authorized for a very specific use that would not affect the farm gate MRL of the fruit so for example carcinocasteron is a herbicide that can be used around cherry trees but only four plus weeks after transplanting there's no MRL because expected residues from this use are negligible likely far below 0.01 so this might still be an option for growers with specific breed problems of course so i'm not here to necessarily dissuade you from using an active substance that is unvalue to you i'm here to encourage you to plan carefully if you've negotiated a contract with an EU importer this list includes um this list includes MRLs where the substance isn't banned in the EU but the delta between the MRLs for Canada and the EU are quite different so should you wish to use these substances and export your product to the EU we recommend you determine which member states your products will be shipped to in advance and discuss with your EU importer i'll also and i'm going through these quickly but we have a handout to disseminate afterwards with these lists as well so you can take in a more in-depth look and then i'm going to discuss how to look it up yourself so these substances have MRLs in Canada which are similar to the European Union or lower in many cases when used properly and according to the label for the domestic market you have increased confidence that the EU will accept cherries that have been treated with these products while this list may seem safe it's necessary to be cautious when products are destined for the EU exemptions mean that the product is not regulated for the European Union however in most cases they are in fact regulated in Canada we always always recommend double checking the member states authorization and approved label uses for each product you choose easier than following a list is to use the health canada online label search or the label app for smartphones from there growers can type in the commodity and pass to see what options are available and then cross cross reference that with the EU database once you know what can and can't be used in Canada you're going to want to head over to the EU pesticide residue database search the pesticide crop combination and then compare it to the Canadian MRL set by health canada these links are provided in the information sheet that I just spoke about anyone has any questions today we have an online panel consisting of a lot of experts who may be able to answer your questions from the PMRA CFIA myself from the market access secretariat our councillor agriculture councillor Lynn who works in Brussels and the French trade commissioner highly valuable to this conversation as we've had issues exporting to France in the past so with that I will give it back to Ghana and that concludes my presentation thank you very much thank you so much Cara thanks for your very comprehensive presentation and I think we could move to the Q&A session now and see whether we have any any questions that are coming from the audience or the questions that were submitted during the registration process and I hand it over to Ben to walk us through any concerns that were raised Ben great hi thank you thanks speakers and just one reminder that if you have any burning questions you can still submit them through the Q&A portion the Q&A button I should say at the bottom of the screen there so none have come in yet so I encourage you to use that and I believe you have the option of submitting that anonymously as well just thought I would mention that I will start I guess with some of the questions that came in during registration and I'm just going to throw them out there and if you feel like your position to respond please do so the first question is regarding logistics and this this person says that logistics have been very challenging this season for both air freight and sea freight unreliable increased costs and overall risks associated are making it harder to export at this moment is there anyone who would like to speak to that well maybe I can comment on logistics well it's obvious that there are less flights from Canada to France and from Canada to Europe in general let's say maybe 50% maybe 30% so that's less space available just in terms of freight some of these flights also are subject to cancellations when when there's not enough people in the flight but in the recent past there's been the number of people on these flights I understand has been variable something like 10% 20% capacity so this would mean more freight available so it wouldn't be too bad but it would be only so not another plane every day maybe a plane every two days or every three days so that'd be some kind of constraint from the statistical side thank you any is there anyone else who would add anything to that I and I recognize that this may not be in the I'll add I mean just from a general EU perspective in Brussels we certainly have not heard that there have been a lot of challenges EU wide as opposed to you know anywhere else in the world so I mean yes of course you know it's many things have been challenging under COVID and not the least of which is this but I would encourage you to contact my colleagues in Ottawa certainly via that address that was provided if you are encountering some specific issues in the EU I mean like I said I haven't heard of anything specific I mean I think the EU to be honest like Canada has been quite responsive in terms early on in terms of ensuring that things continued moving there may be some problems because of Brexit depending where your product is going in or moving around so that's probably a bigger issue to be honest with you than COVID over the medium term anyway so but if you are having some issues please let us know and it's good for us to be aware of those things okay thank you and I guess part of this question was was also I guess overall the overall risks associated and unfortunately we don't have the ability to ask the the the asker what you know if they're referring to specific risks with you know their product and maybe just you know it being perishable and you know getting held up at the border or something like that but if there if you know if there are specific issues or barriers that you're encountering I'm sure the speakers would be happy to talk to you about that if you connect with them after the after the session okay I see a question just came into the Q&A so I will I'll read through that one it is what is the latest news with regard to the labor union related problems in the port of Montreal this was a major issue in 2020 we need that court to be working normally for ocean freight shipments to the EU and the UK I'm not sure if there's anyone here that can respond to that question but I will just throw it out there just in case I honestly I'm not an expert but I'll tell you I thought it had been resolved that's what I thought I had seen but that's purely me looking in the media but I don't know that there's any experts on that on the line currently we have to get back to you on that yeah yeah and for the questions that we don't have the immediate answer Richard for example like this one we'll be happy to to investigate and to get back to you with the response absolutely okay next question is some MRLs are so low that growers have trouble meeting them some plant protection products are not accepted or have strict guidelines I'm not sure that's a way it's maybe Kara you want to speak to that it is less of a question I guess and more of a comment about the situation I think Paul might be best to respond to that as it has to do with how how the pesticide is used so yeah I mean you know without having any any specific examples to to speak to I mean we do know that that there are differences from one jurisdiction to the next with respect to MRLs you know and simply because an MRL is is lower or higher in one jurisdiction does not necessarily indicate you know a health a health concern you know when it comes to MRLs that are that are higher in in Canada and lower in the in the EU on paper it does it may represent you know a barrier to trade but but the EU does have import MRLs and and I know that when it comes to minor uses such as cherries you know obtaining import and import tolerances might be a little bit more of a challenge but it would be it would be useful for for us as government anyway to know to understand to have a better understanding of what particular pesticides are of interest or would be of interest to the BC growers in order you know in order for us to as Cara mentioned with respect to cross-referencing with the EU EU database so you know if we had some specific examples perhaps we might be able to provide a little bit a little bit more guidance on on that okay so of course yeah um so so I just want to say that from sort of my seat sitting here in in Brussels and looking at the situation in Europe I just want everybody who's anybody who's intending on exporting to the EU to be aware that there is increasingly a call by European consumers for things to be pesticide free by that they mean chemical pesticides but pesticide free so the the commission and to be honest regulators because I suspect that there's also some some products that you would like to to see more readily available or with a higher MRL in Canada as well but I'll just make that assumption um you know regulators face a lot of pressure to respond to to those consumer demands which then become political demands via elected officials I do think certainly in Canada and in in in the EU as well regulators have have looked at the science and they do make their decisions based on on what science that they have in front of them in the EU in particular where things get difficult is at the political level so if there are products that you feel are absolutely necessary in Canada and that would make it impossible for you to to successfully grow your your your crop your product your your fruit I I agree I mean please please raise it with us because those are the kinds of examples that we are looking to put forward to the European officials to tell them look you know things are not always the same everywhere they know that but we but we do need to put examples in front of them of you know where these things are going to have an impact um on the negative side because right now most of what they're hearing are demands from consumers that you know everything be clean or pure or whatever it is so so that that's the way I would put it but yes we hear you and we agree um and I just don't want to give you the false illusion that things are going to move in any other direction in the EU anytime soon thank you Lynn okay uh all right the there was another question in the Q&A I think Paul is going to look into that one separately unless Paul you want me to address that to the just to let everyone know what what the question was if not I'll move on to the next one in the registration do you have a preference there Paul uh no no sure go ahead um I mean I don't think I can answer that or right this very moment it'll take some uh a little bit of thinking but but certainly if you would like to share it with the group sure okay so the question was we have Dan, Dan et al, uh Fenn Pope Patherin now I'm now I'm feeling um sympathetic for for Kara approved for use in cherries this year is there any information on EU MRLs for this active also with a PHI of 16 days hand harvesting mechanically assisted harvesting will this pose any potential issues in the EU market and so that's something that Paul is going to to look into and if there are similar questions um please please I would encourage you to follow up directly with Paul uh okay um all right I can just jump in and say that I I checked quickly in the the MRL in the EU is 0.01 which is limited and limited detection if that's helpful for right now but we'll compile a more comprehensive answer with your your question in mind thank you Kara uh okay I see that there were a lot of similar questions during the registration process along these lines so people with questions and challenges around uh determining the appropriate PHIs um based on approved rates or just general comments about how difficult it is to understand uh the the MRLs and I guess how to choose products based on these MRLs is there anything else anyone would like to say to that specific issue um I mean I would say honestly just having that kind of a statement and that kind of information is useful um because yes I I agree we I think the uncertainty right now causes a lot of of it creates a block in and of itself before there's even a product that that gets stuck at port or that gets hit with non-compliance um and and you're correct we need to hear more that there are situations where exporters or or individuals or companies won't even consider exporting because it's too complicated and there's too much uncertainty because it's very difficult for us to make that case we know it's there we know intuitively that it's there but then when we get asked well nobody's having any problem so you know what's the issue um I I think you know the more information we have so thank you for those comments I think that's that's really helpful and and just you know be be uh I guess reassured to a certain extent that that we are we are aware of that situation in the EU and of that that uncertainty and uh and you know the the difficulty of following what it is that is going on and what is currently approved and what might be approved in a year from now and what that means so so we we hear your we hear your voices for sure if you if you have any any suggestions as to how we might help resolve that I that would be great but we're certainly uh doing our best to advocate for you um on that front thank you Lynn another question that came up a couple times or comment um is is around uh the lack of harmonization uh with with different emeralds and um I think a couple of you have spoken to it already uh in your presentations or your responses but I just wanted to throw that one out there as well just to uh to see if anyone had any other comments on on that I mean I think there's others on this panel who are probably more familiar and and work more closely with this on a day-to-day basis but I mean I think from a government of Canada perspective what we're seeking is not harmonization uh of MRLs I think maybe we strive towards having methodologies and and science and information that that is somewhat similar so that you know we're coming to to the to the same conclusions in the end um but I think what we're looking for is flexibility to be honest with you and this is where import tolerances are key flexibility to recognize that you know there may be different needs uh in different geographies and different climates and that you know harmonization is not necessarily always the best solution so depending harmonization where uh you know I would say that that's the key it's the devil's in the detail but sometimes it's actually good to have some some flexibility uh to allow trade to flow thank you Lynn uh Ghana I don't want to put you on the spot but is there anything around free trade agreements that we can say here just in terms of uh you know to Lynn's point not necessarily working toward harmonization but uh putting in place rules or or processes where we may be able to you know alleviate some of the the burden that comes with the multiple uh standards and rules and regulations and things like that across the board yeah Ben thanks thanks for the question uh well as I've mentioned in my presentation there are some provisions um in the in the CETA and there might be some provisions in the Canada UK bilateral trade agreement which will be negotiated that might help facilitate and reduce the the number of trade barriers and reduce the number of duplicative certifications and testings and there are still some provisions that are there but that need to be agreed and discussed at a later date so the free trade agreements they are very much living creatures in that sense and it takes some time uh between the the parties to to discuss and to agree on on certain things but we'll be certainly updating you once uh there are any any movements on the files pertaining to cherries and to to cherry access for cherry access to to the European Union uh market and any facilitation that happens there and I just wanted to uh to mention a couple of things that um Yannick the trade commissioner and the embassy of Canada to France has forwarded as before the webinar he unfortunately had to leave the session but he was also saying that he is working on compiling an updated list of French importers of cherries and he was encouraging the um you the BC exporters uh of cherries to reach out to your past contacts in in France to re-establish the the connections and commercial relations before the the season starts for for Canada uh since the uh dimethyte uh does not seem to be a problem this year for for the French market since they uh there is the the regulation on the European Union level regarding uh its MRL so that's the the remark that I want to make thank you ganna lean I see you have your hand up is that uh new or or an old hand no it is new but if there's somebody else sorry I I do tend to talk a lot so if there's anybody else who wants to make a comment no I can go ahead I just wanted to speak to the point of free trade agreements I mean free trade agreements do not what free trade agreements do in in in and of themselves as they establish the rules of the game um so when you're talking about tariffs you can have binding tariffs in an agreement that you bind to zero in an agreement for example but you cannot or nobody no regulatory authority in and no government has ever agreed that we should bind regulations in free trade agreements why because regulations need to be flexible to respond to different circumstances different situations new science new circumstances for example nobody knew this covid virus existed two years ago um so you know if if we had something bound in an fta that stopped us from from acting on that it would be problematic and so that's why you end up seeing things and I'll continue my parallel on covid where you see this big discussion that's going on now about intellectual property and you know what should be done to provide greater access to to the vaccines in different parts of the world because what you have are a set of rules on sanitary phytosanitary measures technical barriers to trade etc that that look at the behind the border issues the regulations of which pesticide approvals and mrls is one um and and what we try to do in the free trade agreements is write in as much flexibility as we can um for that trade to continue to happen without tying the hands of our regulators so that they're they're unable to ensure appropriate uh risk management and and safety um rules etc so i ganna's right in the sense that you know what you have out of cita are a series of ongoing committees bodies potential regulatory cooperation um that that would help us you know come closer or come together or have discussions at the technical level with experts in the eu um to to try to to diminish some of those gaps or to in introduce some of that flexibility as trusted partners because that's really what it comes down to is how do europeans trust our authorities and what they're doing and do we trust european authorities and that they're doing the right things and being safe the the the fundamental issue with the eu though is that they tend to take a more precautionary approach than most countries in the world so this is where you run into a lot of difficulty in the eu because you might you might have two um assessments by scientific bodies that come up with the same conclusions but then when you get to the risk management stage the eu in in its very legislation will take a more precautionary or risk averse approach to that product um so so there's there's you know some things that uh take a lot of time because a lot of it is going to be based on you know how do we how do we get to the point where we can get the eu to trust that we are in fact um taking into account uh the the right things in terms of of risk and and risk management in the meantime however i will repeat again um there will continue to be for the very near future in the near future many situations where the eu will have uh higher requirements or lower requirements in this case for mrl's than in canada and i think as as kara pointed out in her presentation um it's really important to prepare yourself to to be meeting those requirements when you enter the market um for regulatory reasons yes because it's the law but also because your reputation vis-a-vis eu consumers relies on that um whether it's correct or not that's that's what they believe and that's what they want um so for now over the short term certainly while we continue these discussions through fta's um and and we have fortunately an fta there to build that to to have those discussions and build that trust um i would recommend that you you proceed cautiously or with precaution as the europeans would say for anything in that market in particular right now as it involves chemical pesticides because that is the the what i keep calling the new gmo in the eu this is this is the dirty word uh vis-a-vis closely being followed by deforestation but don't worry we don't have that issue in canada so we're okay on that front thank you lin does anyone else have anything to add to that no okay well i think we are getting near the end of the questions that have come in i haven't seen any new ones come in through the the q and a box and um so maybe i'll just give everyone a chance we have a little bit of time so if if anyone has any final words on the panel um this is your time i'm gonna be again oh paul's got his hand up yay go over to you paul all right thanks i just wanted to mention um that you know when it comes to when it comes to assessing uh and registering uh products uh you know in canada and and elsewhere um but the this is really the process is really driven by what the registrants submit um and sometimes you know sometimes the registrants have um you know they have their own uh i want to say agenda but they do have uh their own requirements um in terms of how they believe the products need to be used one thing that we as regulators do not always have um access to is once a product is is registered okay so we we receive um based on i mean based on the the studies that have been done uh and the field trials that have that have been done by the registrants we review that package but once once a product is registered and it is and it is used um sometimes uh you know growers themselves may use the products a little bit differently um they uh we're often told by by growers that you know the the idea is not to use as much pesticide as possible but the least amount of pesticide as possible um and sometimes the use the real world uh use practice information does not necessarily line up with the label so for example um you know a grower might use a lot less of a pesticide uh that is actually provided for on the label so you know the residues resulting from that use uh would be a lot lower uh than the MRL and and and this is not something that we typically uh have access to we might sometimes have it uh when it comes time for for reevaluation um so you know if if there is a case where uh the um the label use is not necessarily reflected of the real world use so if you're using a product a lot less than what is provided for on the label um it might be interesting uh for for us uh to know because it may it may in fact you know uh result in in lower uh in lower residues and therefore possibly um you know compliance uh with MRLs in whatever market your uh your target and and paul it would be the best way for them to let you know that so uh there are there are various ways um uh one of the obviously obviously one way is to inform the registrant of the various various practices another way is to contact our in full service line at PMRA that is a sort of an all-encompassing call line whenever the for any kind of pesticide related issues so you know that is that is the best way to to get in touch directly with us all right thank you other final comments i just i just wanted to add i see there's a reference to brian christy in the chat um and and i just want to say we're very familiar with the brian christy studies and both at agriculture canada and here in brussels and it's definitely something that we we've used to advocate um so that sort of information is very much something that we but i'm trying to lower my hand and i keep raising it okay so so yes and and i also completely agree with the comment about um you know the bc cherry association and various industry associations and and keeping in touch with them they will have information they'll be aware of you know what the big the big issues are and the big things to be careful of and also your importers who whatever contacts you have in country where you're thinking of of exporting ask them many questions you will not look stupid you will look smart because you will look informed and you will look like you know that it's complicated in the eu and that that you're you're doing your homework and you're you know reaching out making sure that you have all of the details so so do not hesitate to ask a lot of questions and to reach out to whoever it is that might be able to help you with that and the closer to the source the better thank you Lynn uh Kara i just wanted to plug the market access single window that window is not only just for the eu but it's for all geographies that you may export to so any market access issues you experience whether it be to the us or china japan um you can put in your issue or questions into that that single window and um an operator so to speak will get it to the right person on the other side and their service standards associated with that single window so you won't be left waiting in the case of say a stop shipment or a serious issue thank you Kara cool uh yeah well we're still on the call i i've been doing a little bit of digging on the uh on uh gail's question about uh denital and whether the uh the phi of 16 days uh would result in any issues with the EU market so um because this product was uh just recently registered we have uh we don't have any uh cfi monitoring data on it yet um so in terms of real world residues uh unfortunately we can't answer that question uh yet so i would err on the side of caution what this one means thank you paul okay there's a question that just came into the chat and um it is uh earlier Kara shared a way to search for products registered on cherries this person spent hours last week going to the pmra database and reviewing pesticide labels for phis and info on whether products were um registered required on cherries is this an easier app to use i guess that's for you car i'll share this with paul as uh he's the one who has brought the the app to light but from what i can see yes the app is much easier to use as you can search sort of by commodity and it pulls up all the the pesticides that are registered in canada um whereas the other way around you sort of have to search one by one i think but paul is best to share his wisdom and how he quickly chris yeah i mean unfortunately uh unfortunately there's no easy way uh to do it obviously the the label search app is is probably the the most user friendly um the website is perhaps a little a little less so although it does allow you to to make the search a little bit more granular um but i mean it it does it does still uh require some effort to go into every label to uh to see what uh to see what they say um but right but as of as of right now that is the only way of of uh of doing a comprehensive uh okay um charlene i would not be doing my job as a moderator very well if i didn't give you an opportunity to make any final comments you may have um yeah no final comments from me i think maybe just echoing um what car said earlier and you know if you have any issues um you know with stop shipments or you know market access issues with um with any importing country that the the mass single window is is a good place to go so thank you and any other final comments and i think we've exhausted the questions that have come in so uh thank you kara charlene lin yannick paul and ganna and thank you all for attending today's webinar uh if you have any other questions uh it's been mentioned several times but please just follow up uh at the contact information that you saw in those presentations um and i think you'll probably receive it afterwards as well uh there were a lot of other access points that were mentioned today and i'm assuming we'll we'll send that all out afterwards um you will receive a follow-up email there will be a link uh there with the recording of today's webinar today's webinar was recorded and uh as well as some of the presentations and some some other helpful resources and um there will also be a survey in that in that email and uh you can we would really appreciate it if you would fill that out and just let us know how how today's session went and how useful it was for you uh so on behalf of the government of British Columbia uh and our speakers thank you for joining us today and and have a great rest of your day