 So today what I want to do was bring on my man stash to talk about the different things that are going on in crypto gaming because I believe we've got quite a ways to go stash. Welcome to show yet again. Rob. Yes. Thank you, sir. It has been a little while man, you know, but I like the thing that we're like best friends that like just are so busy that don't see each other very often but still every time we come back together. It is complete magic and fire and that's what we're bringing to you guys today. So we're going to talk all about web three gaming all the questions answered whatever you want to know whatever curious about you maybe you're hearing some things. I got the answers. That's what we do here at the GIA here and you know secretion stash is going to bring it all to you. If anybody's wondering this is exactly how stash is 24 seven always like this always on fire. So let's just do a little little quick intro and just talk about, of course, if you don't know who stash is. Here's his website or here's his YouTube channel. It's great. He's bordering hovering at 92 K almost at that 100 K beautiful level, which you should have already had. Let's be honest. Yeah, I don't know. YouTube don't like me. YouTube doesn't YouTube likes you just fine. And look at this. This is us just about a year and a half ago. Look at those two kids. Look at that. Look at this is what a bear market will do to you. And this one, this was this was November 14 21. It's a pretty big difference from now. Both of you look both of us now versus then pretty big difference, man. You know, that's me in my in my, you know, uber Chad disguise crypto stash, you know, so that's one of my good disguise. That's right. Excellent. You know, we had almost 120,000 views in that one 119,000 views. Geez Louise. And then that video I actually put into into the website. Dan teaches crypto 100% free. You are the first video on module six in the metaverse. So Stash, I want to say thanks again for coming on. No problem. You know, I've been waiting for the the check for the residuals for that then in the mail. Is that if I not do you? Do you take any kind of crypto? I can send it over. No big deal. Yeah, I only take Dogecoin, though, sir. Doge only. I should have sent it to you about two weeks ago. You've been rich already. Yeah, I should have sent it to you. Elon says it's the best, sir. Sir, Elon. Elon, the Doge. I wish Elon would talk about Bitcoin a little bit more, but what are you going to do? It's the doggy coin as my as my parents call it. My dad, my stepdad's like, he's like, did you know about the doggy coin? And I said, what? I'm like, Oh, it's Doge, the Doge coin. Oh, yeah, the Dogecoin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He was like, he was like, Oh, I thought it was doggie. I, you know, it makes sense. Doge doggie coin. Tell me you're not into crypto 100% of time without telling me you're not in crypto 100% of time. Dogecoin. Exactly. Funny enough, not the first time I've kind of heard some stuff like that for people who have been in crypto for a while. There's a lot of history in crypto. You know, for SOGs have been around for a long time. I've seen a lot of trends and things and funny little weird stuff. And I've been around when a lot of these things are created. And then maybe now fallen by the wayside, even things move fast in crypto. Hey, man, I will tell you one thing before we move on is that I always thought that Dogecoin would just be a meme coin. It wouldn't really get anywhere, but it's been around forever. And I think it's still in the top 10. Yeah. Memes. Memes, baby. So the meme coins are not my specialty. Maybe not yours. Your specialty stash is, of course, the gaming. So I got a couple of questions for you. First of all, why is crypto gaming the future? And then we're going to talk about why what's the barrier to adoption? What's going on? Why haven't we seen more adoption? Is the poor games? Is it lack of understanding? Is education? And then we'll get into the last one is, for the non-gamer, what do you want to look at? So for the very first one, why is crypto gaming the future? And also to everybody who has signed up for Dante just crypto, that 100% free website, check your email inbox today, a little special offer for you. So the future. And we've covered this, not extensively, but pretty much. There was a really one of the most bullish reviews that I had taken a look at. And it was from Citibank. And Citibank is the third largest bank in the United States. I think it's the 11th largest bank in the United States. Maybe Boo, but they are all about digital assets, crypto. And one of the big things they talked about in this report, well, first of all, CBDCs. But the second thing. Also Boo. Also Big Boo. Three billion gamers currently, we expect 50 to 100 million could be web three users by 2025. But that's what's rising as web two hits include tokens and they actually interviewed Ryan Wyatt from Polygon Studios. And then we had a report Saudi Arabia, 620 billion wealth fund, finding its way into crypto on top of that they just pumped 38 billion into video games. So stash the question I have then this is what I see, but I'm not in the thick of it like you. Why is crypto gaming the future? Well, Two things. Okay, so right, some of the things you just showed us right now. Really points to the fact that gaming is going to be a huge part of of the future. Right. So so a crypto gaming or web three gaming aside just gaming in general is growing at a very large rate right year over year, there are more people gaming across more different platforms and different styles. You know, mobile gaming has really broken things out. So, you know, we're adding billions of gamers here over the course of just a couple of decades. Right. You know, you look at really when gaming got started to where we're right now it's only it's been a very short amount of time. Right. So we're adding these people at exponentially race, you know, exponential pace here and the money that is flowing into gaming is also really a large amount too. So you talk about all these gamers. Well, how much money does that equate to it's a lot. It's a lot. It's a it's a multi trillion dollar industry in total. Right. So you look at like why crypto gaming or why NFT gaming will just that that one fact alone is one of the biggest things. But when it comes to NFT games, well, now you're weaving in a little bit of a financial element to these things that can be commoditized. Right. That you can use the in a way that makes it more like a tradable commodity. Outside of the games themselves. And that's kind of what I think, you know, NFTs and crypto can help do. And when you look at the financial element of that, it's great, but there's tons of great benefits for gamers. Right. So we talk about this technology being used in the games themselves. Well, why? Why do gamers want it? It's just like just another thing. Damn it, stash. Another thing. No, it's not just another thing. I mean, it can actually be something that is going to increase the, you know, ease of use. Right. Improve the experience. That's what gamers want. They just want a better experience. You know, they just want a great experience. Overall, that's what everybody wants. Right. We just want something that's going to improve the experience. And I think NFTs or will do that for games in a number of ways. A being able to own your assets outside of the game itself. Right. That helps with things like, you know, my account got banned or hacked. I mean, like, you know, now all my stuff, well, hey, you know what? Sorry, we can't do anything about it. You know, we're, you know, this is right here just on the centralized server. We don't have any kind of control of that. But if you have those assets in your own wallet, you have them. They're safe and you then are in control of those assets. Right. That could be a good or bad thing, but being able to trade those assets outside of the game is a really big boon. Right. Having, knowing that an asset has value in the game and people desire it, being able to then trade that asset to somebody else unlocks a lot of potential liquidity in a game as well. So you think about how much money in assets game had like Fortnite has locked up. Right. How many millions of dollars they've sold in skins and all these assets are locked up in their, in their ecosystem. Now they got the original sale. They got the original sale. Great. They made a bunch of money. They've made tons of money off selling skins. That's how they make their money. Right. Millions and millions of dollars, even with the Apple massive 30% cut. Right. But they, you know, it stops there. Now if these skins were inepties, they could be traded in marketplaces in or outside of the game easily. Right. And people's walls and then they, and then Fortnite could be taking a cut of that residuals. So they're making even more off every asset. I mean, it is a, it is a no brainer play for a lot of games. Not every game. Definitely not every game, but a lot of games can benefit from blockchain technology in a number of different ways. Inepties and, you know, even tokens can be incorporated successfully if done in the right type of way. Now that's hard to do. We've seen a token is incredibly hard to do. You know, doing inepties is much easier and makes sense already to gamers. Right. So here, that's the connection. Right. As you talk about, where's the connection here, Stash? You have all these billions of gamers. Right. Billions of gamers. And it just, as we saw from the data, just continue to climb and grow every year as it's been doing. More and more people gaming. Right. Right. Then you talk about, well, if you can buy and sell and trade assets like this, and that's an incentive for developers to include it into their games. Right. Well, now you have people being able to unlock that, those amount of dollars, that liquidity there for doing other things and doing crossover things as well. There's a lot you can do, you know, with these inepties. But you talk about, well, why would, why would these regular gamers who are growing at a crazy rate? Why would they be interested in Web 3? Well, it comes down to the fact that gamers in general are already very comfortable with digital assets. It's something they already do anyways. So, you know, whether you're playing a Web 3 game or Web 2 game, in the very near future, you're not going to be able to tell. You're just going to be doing something and you're going to get gems. A game, whatever you're doing while you're sitting on the toilet taking a crap in the morning, you're like, all right, I'm doing my farm. And you're going to earn gems. And those will, they'll be a process to be able to like, trade those into crypto assets and then get something like an NFT or cash it out possibly to like a USD or a T or USC or something like that. So that's the connection there, right? So these gamers are already familiar with gaming assets, the existing ones, and new ones coming on board. You know, this is something you already see in gaming. It just is like, what's running it in the back end? Well, it could be NFT technology, which is just a better way to track things and an easier way to make things tradable outside of a game and increase liquidity for a game in general and possible profits for developers. And then also, you know, be able to, as a gamer, be able to sell your assets like, hey, I played this game for a year and a half and I loved it and I, you know, spent, you know, $1,000 on assets. Now I'm leaving, I'm going to this other game. Oh, I spent way more than that. This is just, you know, I don't want to tell you how much I spent. It's kind of, Rob, it's maybe embarrassing, let's say, but as an adult spending thousands of dollars in a video game, yes, it happens a lot. People don't realize how, like I said, it's a huge industry. There's a lot of money being spent on in-game assets. So having those that are tradable and I could sell them to somebody else, they can have use of them, it is great for a game, right? For the longevity of it, for like I said, for those royalties and then also for the gamer being able to unlock some, you know, potential revenue back. Maybe you pay 50 bucks for it and then now you can sell it back in the market for five. You know, it just brings back that kind of old-school feeling of going to GameStop and having that game. Oh, yeah. You know, you're bringing back your cartridges, blowing them, like, making sure they're all clean, you know, getting them packaged, bring them back in. And you're like, yeah, I got this game, you know, four months ago. I beat it and everything. Can I, I want to trade it in. How much are you going to give me? And they're like, they're looking at it like, yeah, okay, retail was, what's 59.99. It's been four months. So yeah, we'll give you five bucks. Yeah. And you're like, what? And then they go and sell it and then now they're selling it for 35 and you're like, you know, but that's kind of how it goes. But at least you got something, right? You know, at least you got something that someone's willing to pay something for because there's a desire for it in the game. So I think that because of those reasons, really, you know, that the two connections right there. It's a kind of that three-part gaming, growing massively quick. Gamers are comfortable with digital assets already. And then, you know, the jump to Web three is a lot shorter for these people, especially with the better onboarding that we're seeing here with Web three games, which is really important for the future of Web three games, right? For crypto games. So I think that really, you know, with that hop there, that's why. So then, then why is that important for financial wise? Because that means lots of money coming into these ecosystems, right? So when you talk about what coins, what things you want to look at, what do you want to bet on? Gaming is going to be a surefire bet in the bull run coming here. Surefire. I got to tell you that is the best answer I've heard from anybody. And I've talked to quite a few people. Stash, fantastic. I'll bring the fire. I'll bring the fire. Myself and the GIA, the Gaming Intelligence Agency, you know, that's the agency we got going on here. We work for C-grade and Stash always brings the heat. Exactly. So I got to tell you, so the things you just mentioned, you talk about the things that are going to happen, how it can kind of roll out. But there was a question, then, is what are the gamers missing? And actually, before I go on to that, just to add on to your point, this was the interview with Ryan Wyatt from Polygon, where he talked about how, you know, like gamers just, you know, they had this one aspect. They don't really, you know, get the next part. And he talks about consumers did not ask developers for cloud gaming back in the day. Multiplayer games, mobile games are play to earn games and they certainly aren't going to ask for blockchain games. And then to add to your point about the revenue for a generation for developers, this was interesting. He said developers can also enforce creator royalties, align the content creator to receive royalties every time the digital item is resold. So I think... Yeah, that's what I was just talking about. Just to build on that. I mean, that's what things I think are going. So then the question is, what's the hiccup? What's the problem? What's the barrier to adoption? And here was one of them. Not a barrier. This is what I had heard and we had talked about it wasn't. This is Dr. Disrespect's game. Yeah, Dead Drop. Great game. Looks pretty good. Dr. Disrespect, we don't know. 4.32 million subscribers. Pretty huge in the gaming sector. And this is you and Dr. Dis... First of all, are you just really short or is Dr. Disrespect just really tall? Dude, the dude is a beast. He is like six foot eight. Geez Louise, he's really tall. So yeah, he makes me look like a freaking midget almost, right? I stand next to this guy and he's towering over me. But he's a cool guy. He's a good guy. We had some decent little chats, you know. Yeah, very nice. And then this is you playing the game itself. But the question I had was like, when this game Dead Drop came out, this is what I had read in articles, which was because he gave away NFTs for founders built on polygon. He gave these away or bought or however it was done for founders to get in for early access. Yeah. And then some of the other gamers was what I had understood was we're furious that they had done NFTs. And I keep hearing this about how gamers hate NFTs. Yeah. They don't get it. They're very angry. So on this game, was that the truth? And also to talk about it, NFTs and gamers, are they angry at this and is that one of the barriers to adoption of gamers? Yeah. So yeah, I think that's a great first way to kick things off. Gamers are. They're just very much against NFTs. And there's a couple of different reasons out there. We see people talk about it, right? But these gamers in general, like the mainstream narrative has become NFTs bad. NFTs bad, sir. And the reason why is, oh, well, it's a cash grab. They're just trying to get more money out of us. They're just going to try and get more money. That's what it is. And they're going to take advantage of us. Or the environments are, but the environment, you know, like there's been a couple of narratives of like, why are they bad? Well, because they do, you know, it's a lot of it comes down to money, right? So I think a lot, I think a lot of the narrative, you know, became created early on because in the beginning of web three games getting started here, NFT crypto games, you know, there have been quite a few scams and people who made games that like scam people away. So they just equate like, oh, these things happened early on and that means all games, they have NFTs or scams. It's just how they are. That's what NFTs are. They're scams. And so that becomes a narrative within the mainstream gaming community. And so then anything that comes up that has NFTs, it just becomes toxic because everyone is just kind of following this mainstream narrative. And then Dr. Disrespect actually called people out on this when they gave him crap about, you know, talking about NFTs for this latest release. And basically was like, no, you know, you guys are just morons following the mainstream narrative. You're not thinking for yourself and seeing the future here. And that's exactly what's happening in a lot of the cases, right? But, you know, a lot of the gamers I talked to, you know, they're open to it. They just don't really know anything about it when like asked directly, you know, they just want to know more. They just don't have the information they need. And that's what I do on my channel is really talk about, you know, how beginners can get involved with gaming and NFTs and why it's important. When we go all the way into the in-depth stuff to, you know, and obviously playing the games, I focus on playing the games, having fun mostly, but doing that with the community, right? And talking about all these elements at the same time. So, yeah, it can be a huge barrier to entry, I think, you know, is that first barrier is perception. Right now, the perception is NFTs bad and games bad. But that is changing. And I think we're seeing it slowly changing. And I think that Dr. Disrespect's Game Dead Drop, I think actually is helping to change that because, yeah, I mean, they, you know, they did NFTs. They, you know, it wasn't like a big cash grab. It's basically just an early access pass, but it also gives you additional benefits in the game like having a cool skin, a custom skin at that, which is really cool. But then getting other skins and other benefits as a founder like at early access to their events, which they just had a big event in Texas, which I was at, which is where I met, you know, Doc and the crew. We, you know, founders who had an NFT got access to that event for free first before the general public. Right. So having utility for your NFT beyond just like, Oh, it's an access to the game. Right. It's like an access code for steam. Right. You know, I'm sure a lot of people, if you know or plays games on steam, you get a free one. You can get an access code and just pop it into steam and boom, now the game is in your library and you can install it. Well, that's basically what this NFT is, but just done in a way that, you know, makes it reusable and tradable. And that is, I think it's a big thing. Right. So the first thing is value is utility within the game that actually people are desiring. The price has gone up significantly actually since this latest release, this latest snapshot and they're still in alpha stage, closed alpha right now. I mean, and it's correct. I mean, like how much they've done, you know, so yeah. So when you talk about barrier to adoption, the perception is the first barrier. That is the first barrier. The second one is going to be like the UI and the actual, you know, onboarding of somebody into a Web3 ecosystem in some sort of way. So that's the second biggest one, I think, that we have to really overcome. Perception. Excellent. You know, and it's, I mean, we're... It's first, it's number one right now. Yeah, number one. We're fighting the same battle with Bitcoin if they're having everything down the line with the general public because there's been so indoctrinated for what the information that they actually put out. And I got to tell you, like, I take a look at this and I'm, when you talk about steam, I mean, you can do it on steam, you can trade things on steam, but all of a sudden it's bad news if we do this in an NFT. And then also like... Right, and they have a closed system too. So their system is a closed system and so like, you know, you can do some trading and things like that. Like a lot, like similar to other things like CSGO, like they're more of a closed system. You know, what we have in Web3 is an open system, right? You can't stop somebody, you know, from creating a marketplace around your items and then being able to sell them, right? Like we see with like an open C sells NFTs for games, but then like a blur comes along and then, hey, they're selling NFTs for games. Well, you know, nobody could stop them and say, no, I don't, you know, you can't do this. I don't want you like, you know, you can't have my NFTs. It's pretty open. I mean, there's ways to be able to like, you know, kind of block things, but in general, that is kind of the idea and the difference of having a closed system that nobody has any kind of access to and there's no value that you can bring out of it, right? Like you can actually bring value out of the steam system. Well, I mean, I gotta tell you, if I was a game developer and I was making, and I was throwing this up, I mean, a billion dollars the first five months I was out, why would I want anybody to use crypto and digital assets for that aspect of NFTs? I just wouldn't want them to do that. That's just me as a business owner. But maybe I'm wrong. So we, okay, so we covered that part. Excellent response stash. Thank you. Appreciate it. But the other part is games, because some of the games and put out, let's just call a spade a spade. Axie was awful. And it was just not a great experience for most people. Now we're seeing like games like this. This is from you. This is shrapnel. I don't know how far away this game is, but it looks, I mean, just fantastic. I mean, gameplay and whatnot. This is probably the intro. Yeah, that's gameplay right there though. That's gameplay right there. Looks pretty good. And then we've got this one, alluvium. I think this is one of your, ones you've talked about before. Yeah. Yeah. And it looks, I mean, it looks fantastic. This is actual gameplay. And then of course, congratulations. I went up against Bryson Tom. I'm literally gonna beat him. That I did, yeah. That was all fun. I just want to mention that. Anytime I can stick with the Bryson man, I'll do it. He's the homie, but you know, I love good competition. So we're always kind of competing like this. Yeah, perfect. So the next, the last one is just this. Is it just the problem with the games? They've got to be better AAA ranked games to get people to come in the hardcore gamers? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that definitely better games are something that we've needed, but you know, that's, we're already there. There's tons of great games now. I mean, that, that was a question like two, two years ago, that was definitely a question. Like, oh, there's no good games. Now, tons of them. So many good games that I can, I'm actually having trouble like keeping up with all these games that are good. And a lot of them are still in early stages of development. Like not everyone's like completely fully launched out there, but a lot of them are in a really late, you know, in a stage where it's like, man, this is very playable. It's fun. You know, when this launches, it's going to be fire, right? So I think that we're really close to having a ton of really good ones. But yeah, I mean, there are still some great games out there. Some great games. Yeah. I think we're on the cusp because those ones that I saw, it was always just some kind of video preview, but not an actual playable demo. So like when I, when I follow you and some other gamers, like I take a look, I'm like, well, this is actually playable. How close are we? And it seems like we're right on the cusp, maybe in the next bull run like you talked about, we might be able to see those. Yeah. I mean, I think a lot of them are, like I said, I think the development cycles are kind of ending this year. So we're going to see a lot come out like the one I'm playing on stream here today. Last expedition from Gala Games. It has been in development. They've been moving over to UE5. That is going to be a huge hot title. Some other really great ones like Superior from Gala Games is also really great. And their Walking Dead game is a fun one for kind of a mobile focused game. They're like I said, but there are tons of really good games. Like no matter what you like playing, there is now something out there that is quality enough to be like, oh yeah, this is actually a lot of fun. I can see that. So I want to say this and we'll wrap this up, is that a lot of the people who watch this show are not gamers. They're just not. So I mean, maybe they should be. It might be a nice stress reliever, but for the non gamer out there, what do you look at as far as like, and not investment advice, not saying that, but what would you look at for like investing and taking a look at behind the scenes? What's being built on? Yeah. I mean, you know, the good thing about this is that when it comes to crypto, you don't have to necessarily be a gamer to take advantage of knowing the fact that gaming tokens or gaming ecosystems, you know, are something that are going to be very powerful here in the next four. Right. They could have some really great return. I think that, you know, there when you look at like some of the stuff out there, right, you want to look at things that have kind of a unique angle or good first mover advantage. I think is always something I look for. This game is not like a direct clone of something else. I try and stay away from like clones of things that are really like, man, that's just a direct clone. Like you could say Luvium is kind of like Pokemon, but they've done their own very different spin on how they do the game and things like that, you know, but there are some like games that are like, that's just a straight Pokemon clone. I mean, it looks exactly like Pokemon. You know, it's got similar name. It's something else mon, you know, crypto mon. Right. And when we see things like that, and I'm like, those are the things you probably want to stay away from, but there's a lot of tried and true, you know, gaming tokens out there, they're kind of like what we call like the blue chip gaming tokens, right? They're the Bitcoin, Ethereum's and BNB's of the gaming world. And I mean, those are tokens like sand, you know, is one of those top tokens for the sandbox. You know, they have massive partnerships, huge sprawling game, tons of developers, tons of stuff coming out here for their season four and updates. So they really are pushing in the gaming world and you know, there's a couple other ones up there at the top that I think are doing some great stuff that, you know, when it comes down to it, some simple research is all you really need, you know. I don't focus a ton on the tokenomics or things like that on the channel or like price prediction stuff, you know. We focus on the games, but we do talk a little bit about the tokens and things and how they work within the gaming ecosystem. So you understand, well, why is this necessary? How is it going to be used? I think that that's also a pretty good thing to be researching as well. So as a non-gamer, you can look into those things and understand like, hey, I can see that this game is going to be hot based upon like, you know, how tons of people are talking about it on social and it's getting good social metrics, but then also the fact that like, you know, you can see that the token had strong performances and the sitting atop the chart of, you know, kind of the gaming tokens and you can go to like a coin gecko and just go sort in categories, which is a great thing to do and just like go to the gaming category, right? And it's all these tokens that are attached to games. It kind of gives you a quick overview of, you know, of what's going on right now, you know, in those ecosystems. Makes a lot of sense. Yes. Sometimes you just have to take a look and go, well, which one of these actually gives me the most fun because if I like it and I like to play it, then maybe it'll be pretty good in the future. And then also like when I take a look at things, I just, I think to myself, what is this built on? What is the underlying infrastructure of the blockchain? Like you talked about sand, I'd take a look at polygon and then a host of other ones that are out there. So for this one, totally makes sense. So Stash. Yeah. Yeah. I think a lot of stuff is important to research, but, you know, finding out those really important little details like that, you know, it's hard because there's so much data, right? That's what we try and do on my channel. That kind of sift through those things and, you know, especially my Discord and things like that. Talk to people about, you know, the gaming side of things here in crypto. Yeah. Makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Thank you. So Stash, you said it all today. Again, this could be another one of our 100K viewer videos. Who knows what it will be. But I got to tell you, man, it's always a pleasure to have you on because it's just hard to keep up in this space. You know what? I know. So what I do, a pleasure is always Rob. I love it. I appreciate being in your channel and all of the viewers, people out there watching. Thank you guys so much for supporting Rob because he's a quality guy here in the spacemen. All right. So everybody, thanks so much for stopping by. We appreciate it. Like today's video. Thumbs up. Subscribe. All that good stuff. But that is it for me and Stash. Go check him on his live stream. It's going to happen pretty soon. That's it today. Thanks so much, everybody. See you on the next one.