 Selamat pagi, semua. Hari ini, saya selamat datang ke tempat dekat. Untuk beberapa orang yang mungkin datang ke sini untuk pertama kali, ini basically a Club for Geeks. Dan sehingga hari ini, sebenarnya ada banyak tabung-tabung-tabung lagi dan orang menggunakan sebagai tempat untuk hanya bekerja di startup. Jadi, kita akan melakukannya. Kita juga ada sebuah ruang yang kecil di belakang. Okey, dan beberapa kumpulan di sini, ada kumpulan teknis di sini atau ada kumpulan musikal di sini. Kumpulan ukul di sini. Ini juga kumpulan yang melakukannya di sini. Jadi, ini malam ini, kita sebenarnya ada reks dari Shanghai. Ini di Shanghai. Ia sebenarnya datang ke Singapura dan berkongsi cerita tentang bagaimana kita sebenarnya membuat skipboard ini dan juga bercakap tentang projek lainnya. Dan saya faham bahawa reks sebenarnya berkongsi di sebuah tempat dekat Shanghai di Sinchejian. Jadi, ya, rata-rata untuk reks, terima kasih. Saya akan menjelaskan dari sebuah tempat dekat Shanghai nama Sinchejian. Ia bermakna sebuah tempat dekat Sinchejian sebelumnya. Ia adalah sebuah tempat dekat yang sangat tua dan tiada siapa yang menggunakan itu. Jadi, sebuah pekerja itu hanya datang dan membuatnya seperti sebuah tempat dekat Shanghai. Jadi, ia hanya membuatnya. Dan saya juga, sebelum yang terakhir, saya adalah penggambaran. Saya belajar penggambaran seperti 9 tahun lalu, saya rasa sangat mudah. Kerana ibu saya adalah penggambaran di sini. Dan saya sangat bermakna dengan penggambaran di sini. Tapi ia tidak mengajar saya. Dan ia berkata, apa yang kamu tak perlu belajar penggambaran di sini? Kerana ketika kamu tiga tahun lalu, saya 60 tahun lalu. Dan saya masih lebih baik daripada kamu. Jadi, kamu harus belajar sesuatu yang saya tak tahu. Ya, jadi ia berkata, kerana pada tahun 1989, program ini adalah perkara baru. Dan ibu saya adalah penggambaran di sini. Ibu tidak tahu apa programnya. Dan ibu dia sangat baik seperti yang saya lalui. Jadi, ia berkata, saya tidak mengajar apakah yang saya lalui. Dan saya hanya membuat kamu belajar programnya. Saya belajar sesuatu yang saya boleh lakukan. Dan juga, ia berkata, ia berkata, saya boleh belajar programnya. Dan jadi, saya belajar untuk software VR yang banyak tahun lalu. Dan saya belajar sekolah saya pada tahun 1970. Jadi, saya tidak bersyukur. Jadi, saya lebih banyak tahun saya belajar dan setelah saya cuba membuat sesuatu software yang dipanggil MENTA. Ini adalah pelajaran untuk begitulah menggunakan penggambaran. Dan perkara pertama saya akan menunjukkan kemudian. Dan perkara yang lain adalah... Dan perkara yang lain, saya membuat penggambaran elektris dan kebanyakan. Cuma untuk menenangkan, kerana saya adalah pelajaran. Selepas itu, saya hanya menerima duit dari VZ. Dan kerana China mempunyai banyak orang yang muda untuk membuat perniagaan. Kerana kami dapat membeli rumah. Kerana di Shanghai, rumah lama 30 tahun. Mungkin 15k dolar per dolar. Jika anda belajar untuk perniagaan, mungkin selama 20 tahun, anda hanya boleh membeli rumah. Boleh anda pergi ke bank? Tidak. Jadi anda boleh membeli rumah. Jadi anda harus membeli rumah. Jika anda tidak membeli rumah, anda tidak boleh membeli rumah. Tetapi di China, anda harus membeli rumah untuk membeli rumah. Saya suka orang lain yang membeli rumah saya. Jadi saya cuba membuat penggambaran elektris dari kebanyakan. Kerana pada kebanyakan, beberapa orang hanya akan membeli rumah. Kami akan membeli rumah untuk membeli rumah. Dan anda boleh membeli rumah dengan tangan untuk membeli rumah. Selepas itu, saya menerima duit. Saya menerima duit sekitar 1 minit per dolar. Pada masa itu, ia sempurna. Kerana pada masa itu, China VZ percayakan bahawa mereka mempunyai kebanyakan yang muda. Dan iot. Jadi mereka percaya bahawa orang boleh membeli rumah yang muda. Selepas itu, saya menerima duit untuk membeli rumah yang muda. Saya membuat duit seksy dan saya pergi ke pembinaan. Dan kita boleh membeli duit yang muda. Ia seperti 7K. Jadi saya mempunyai duit yang muda dan pembinaan yang muda. Saya membuat sesuatu untuk mati. Saya membeli banyak orang dan membeli kebanyakan yang muda. Saya membeli duit yang muda dan pembinaan yang muda. Jadi saya membeli banyak duit. Itu adalah salahnya. Walaupun kita berada di China. Dan kita membuat sesuatu yang muda. Kita juga membuat masalah. Jika anda berminat, saya boleh berkongsi lebih banyak cerita tentang bagaimana untuk membuat sesuatu yang muda di China. Dan kita membuat sesuatu yang muda di China. Pada masa yang terakhir, saya juga membuat beberapa projek. Saya ingin bermain ukul ini. Sebab ramai orang membeli rumah yang muda. Mereka perlu belajar sesuatu yang muda. Dan ia sangat mudah daripada Tita. Jadi saya mahu bergabung. Selepas tiga hari, saya boleh beri kerja. Saya sangat lapar untuk belajar. Jadi saya cuba membuat masa yang muda. Sebab saya ingin bermain permainan yang muda. Dan ia susah untuk bermain permainan yang muda. Jadi saya hanya menggunakan... Jadi anda mempunyai perkara ini sekarang? Sebab saya mempunyai dua ukul ini. Tidak. Jadi saya hanya membuat sesuatu yang muda. Saya menggunakan permainan yang muda untuk membuat perkara yang muda. Tapi ia sangat bergabung. Jadi ini mungkin anda dapat melihat... Saya rasa ia adalah cara untuk mengambil fikiran yang muda. Jadi ia membuatnya mudah. Jadi saya juga membuat teman-teman yang berjumpa dengan saya. Saya dapat banyak duit daripada perkara yang muda. Ia adalah salah satu perkara yang muda. Tetapi saya juga membuat sesuatu yang muda... ...atau sesuatu yang muda. Dan saya masih ada banyak orang yang membuat perkara yang muda... ...untuk menggunakan perkara yang muda. Ya, mari kita periksa perkara yang saya membuat sebelumnya. Ia namanya Man Class. Sebenarnya saya juga membuat perkara yang muda... ...untuk membuat perkara yang muda. Tetapi saya membuat perkara yang muda... ...sebab mereka mempunyai banyak perkara yang muda. Jika orang memakai perkara yang muda... ...dan kita tak dapat belajar sehari-hari... ...dia hanya dapat menggantikan perkara kepada mereka... ...dan membuat perkara untuk edit dan upload. Tapi itu tidak dapat belajar apa-apa saja. Kita juga dapat membuat perkara yang muda. Jadi saya berfikir kalau saya boleh memberikan kualitas... ...untuk awal atau beberapa orang yang membuat perkara... dan kita perlu membuatkan kerja mekanikannya untuk tidak membuatkan penerbangan. Penerbangan yang kita belajar adalah sangat sukar. Jangan buat perkara yang sangat mudah. Kita perlu membuatkan kerja mekanikannya. Saya cuba membuatkan cara yang mudah untuk dipercaya. Jadi, di sini, saya akan pastikan, di sini adalah akrimon, hanya sebuah akrimon. Kita cuba membuatkan airy-diamon. Kita perlu membuatkan perkara yang sangat mudah. Kita perlu membuatkan airy-diamon. Jadi, kita tidak perlu membuatkan apa-apa. Kita hanya perlu membuatkan beberapa modul. Dan airy-diamon. Dan membaikkan penerbangan yang kita mahu membuatkan kuasa. Dan di sini adalah akrimon. Kita patut membuatkan kuasa modul. Di sini adalah akrimon. Dan membaikkan. Kita membaikkan semua akrimon. Jadi, kita membaikkan akrimon. Sekarang, kita mahu membuatkan perkara yang mudah. Saya mempunyai petang di sini. Saya mahu mempunyai petang untuk mempunyai airy-diamon. Jadi, saya juga boleh membuatkan perkara yang mudah. Dan saya menghubungi ke-7. Sebenarnya, jika anda mempunyai satu petang dan tidak ada airy-diamon, anda boleh membuatkan penerbangan yang mudah. Dan kita membuatkan petang. Sebenarnya, anda boleh membuatkan airy-diamon yang mudah. Jika anda membuatkan penerbangan yang mudah, anda boleh membuatkan petang. Dan membaikkan ke-7. Dan di sini, saya membuatkan perkara yang mudah. Dan saya membuatkan kuasa. Dan anda boleh membuatkan kuasa untuk membuatkan airy-diamon. Tapi, ia berbeza dengan program yang sangat berbeza. Kerana jika anda membuatkan program airy-diamon yang mudah, anda akan membuatkan perkara yang berbeza. Dan ia lebih seperti perkara fizikal. Jadi, saya membuatkan penerbangan yang mudah. Tapi jika saya mahu membuatkan penerbangan yang mudah, saya boleh membuatkan penerbangan yang mudah. Jadi, saya boleh membuatkan penerbangan yang mudah. Você boleh membuatkan如 guilt yang dignitur. resent baking ke- рыbangan dengan suatu catalyst gila. Dan apabila saya mahu membuat liat semula, saya membutuhkan keisteraian, dan saya membutuhkan cái tempat, keberatannya lebih kuat. Dan arriving gaining ni, kami memiliki It's like the first time it's coming out of the output from the first one. The second is coming out of the output from the second one. Or you can use two to make three switch out or use four. Three to make four switch out. It can do the difference. I can press the button. I can turn it off. I press the second time, turn it off. So it's very easy to let people understand. Press twice and so on. Press again and so on. But in the class, it's very easy to understand. Is this your company or what you made? Yes, I work for a hardware company. They make this one? No, they make the Arduino. They said it's Arduino. So they want me to do the project. And let the people easy to use Arduino. So this is the commercial product by you? Yes. Wow, that's awesome. Just brilliant. The team will help me and another intern. But after the company didn't want to keep paying money to do that. So I can't do it again. So I just make it like open source. So I make it like skateboard. So what? I make it like skateboard. Is it from GitHub or from Dropbox? I see in the link. Yeah, yeah, actually in the event page of GitHub. We have Windows, Mic, Linux version. I still want to share some more functional space. If you want to use... If you want to control the server. And if I want to use... Just... PWM, is it? Oh, this is a rotary switch. Yeah, rotary potentiometer. Potentiometer, yes. I just want to control the server. And show you what to do that. Actually to the main character data, not the only power, just have the value data. So I also go to the data transformer. What's the sensor he's got there? Which one? You're on the end. This one? Yeah. This is actually a simple motor. Oh, okay. This is not a sensor and a parameter. Okay, I just connect the server. It's a motor on the seven. And I can't see the diagram. It's a six. And the sensor on that is zero. So if you're writing... The first thing is you should get the data from sensor. And another thing, you should give the data to the server. So... In this software, you should read the data. And the data from machine A0. And you should control the server. The server... The server motor is doing power. So it has to give the power. And the server work on the PN76. And here's the... You want to turn in the server... Dengel. But you can just give the data from here. So the data will transform to the server. And it's like this. All the data and the behavior became very precious. We know that the server need too much power. So it's parallel. And now it's working well. Because I opened the computer power. It can't be handle that. Because if you want to make it like a mechanical hand, it can't be handle. If you want to use this sensor to make some music clear, and make it beautiful, remove the server with a sensor. And only need two wires. To make some music. We connect to the ground. And another is an individual team. We keep it at 6. So for this one, we give the data to the server. But we can give the data to another server. We put it out here. And here is the speaker I just bought. And the speaker... Any speaker is okay. We can use some motor to make speaker make song. And the key on the 6th. Another name is frequency. You want to make song. And the third value is the time how long you want to make some noise. So let's upload it. And see what happen. That's millisecond silent. Ya, it's just very short. Can we substitute with a pair of earphones? Earphones? We may not be loud, but maybe we can come closer to here. It's not enough power. Are you sure? I'm not very sure. It was the new one. I haven't really gotten it. You like it? Ya. And it's just very short song. We can make some delay after it. We can make some beat. And give it a look. And in this software, you can just take it back. And it has a multi-thread. So even you have different way that you don't need at the same time. So you don't need to care about the time. If you want to making the multi-thread on the Arduino, you have to learn a lot of stuff. Use a sensitive thing to control anything. Any bad stuff you can control. You can control the money. Begin with the delay. You have to change the delay. So you just... You can have a decent. Ya, a little. We can change the delay. And we can delay that. That's why we can change the frequency. It looks like in your sort of visual language there, you have these little red constant things. But just now you put one of the flow things into a constant. What does that mean? You had it before on... Or even here where you put it on the speaker. So what is 400 there if there's data flowing from the rotation sensor? Does 400 have any meaning now? Ya, ya. But it's going to be rewrite from the sensor date. So... It's going to be redo the sensor date from zero key. Right? It's going to be rewrite from 400. So the 400 has no meaning at this point? You could get rid of it and it could be the same. So you can change the frequency. Ya. And even you can add the different piece. Alright. We have two speaker and about you can control the same thing. So we can get two different sound. One controlled by you and one is fixed and the other is faster. I'm more faster and the timing is close to the song. I'm going to do some magic stuff. There's control if you can act like 4 or 8. You can make it very complicated. So there's still mental motion but it can't show and not bring clear. We have something similar to keyboard. To make your Arduino control computer similar or very long keyboard command. Open the command terminal terminal and format test IR receiver or control air position control air display control air unit fix air unit fix you can just make some graph from it. It's easy for the beginner to make something like network because it's an Arduino Wi-Fi Wi-Fi shield to connect to the internet We can make some video from the UI of the app and you can get the OVP based on the car. You know every car has an OVP connector and you can get the car speed that you know. And for every car on the internet you can have a channel called channel connector and you can get something like that. Because if you want to make some remote control or accessible some data it's pretty hard because if you just want to translate one page is easy and if you want to translate two pages it's pretty hard how to package your protocol and how to re-protocol the data. It's pretty hard for the beginner and this is very different if you get some data from here and here is the base you want to translate the data to another Arduino or translate it to another Arduino you can use this one send serial number then you can translate the data and the translate way is very different we have a parameter in the package just like you send package to another people you have to write the word name so you can name it like Tom and the letter you want to give package to them so you just need to give the sensor name to the inside package and package it to Tom so it's done and in another Arduino you just need just wait and give the package so you can get the writing data so it's very easy to use because in some high level language they also have some just write and they have some functionality but in the sea it's terrible and here is it and nothing just some little more it's not just the interpreter I have one question so let's say for example I think anybody who does coding one of the very important skills to pick up is debugging so for example let's say you do a simple LED blinking and then you put the wrong pin I mean you say it's pin 13 but actually it's pin 12 so what kind of debugging I mean what kind of errors will be thrown and how does a student or user go about debugging when using your software but they will not finish debugging so there will be an error what kind of error message just say for example no error message just if nothing happens I see so you have some professional so there is serial one the one that you did is it only Wi-Fi you put you make this model it's it can use the different module and even if the module has a serial force it can be used whether it's Bluetooth or higher because main of the module like RSI and Wi-Fi they also have the serial force for the version why are some of the errors blue and some of the errors red blue is the power it can make the module work and the red one is the data oh okay and just if you were coordinating two Arduinos I just noticed that there are actually two incoming blue arrows and I'm just kind of curious what the second one does or I mean let me show it so that's the first cable and we have to have one of the first we get the data and transform the data into a new computer it can work on battery or other stuff so we do a serial the source data is from 0 to 1000 as you can see before so it can use the same name to the map and the map is from 0 to 1000 and outfitting from 0 to the to the where to connect what would be a good example of a configuration where you would get feedback where you would meet both directions I've been trying to think and only want to get a taste trying to get a take it yeah it's very easy because I know many people in the tech space they have 3 kinds of people and one is background software you can write any software and I think for them it's easy yeah so many people they have a lot of support and they have very good stuff and also not big problem and many people they make it in no program and a lot of them and some people they just make it mechanical and most people they do it with stuff and this kind of people they never do it before and actually they don't want to but they handle it they can do any stuff but it's cool they can make the server inside do it it works but most times it just a little bit of programming so I don't know for them even it's very easy but not enough and this software they make it mechanical stuff they want to make some remote control or something it's pretty how long did you get to do e-until this stage get to this stage the software the one more year so one year it's from now I mean you use it from 2012 to 2014 that's quite a big investment for this it looks like it's a stock because I hope somebody can pick it up again did you use open source stuff to get up all the source programs as in did you program it all yourself or did you use libraries and frameworks scratch really want because as a company they don't give much money but this software can sell money they even can sell even the engine that does all the graphics you wrote that you didn't get it from somewhere because I made actually before I made 3D engine because I make the VR software but the 3D engine it's hard to download and it takes more time so I use the QTEs 3 more QTE QTE framework QTE framework QTE QTE libraries it's based on 6kata but it's Nokia Nokia can't be a thing to develop 6.4 so it can move your 6kata project to a different level so this software you can run on top of the pie so what's one of the biggest lesson you learn from this project before for the life no this project what struck you as something that you didn't see that because I want to close that program because I'm learning the program and when I'm a child I go to the supermarket I saw the software in the box of the and the people can buy some software like a video player or some software my channel is really bad like firewall software they can buy this kind of software on the box and the software will make money and it looks like copy money software is amazing but when I'm brought I haven't made money anymore because in China any kind of software is great even the Chinese have the office and WTS is great and download software is great I don't know many software is great even the OS I think that's just largely the world isn't that software it's not if you can tie software to hardware you can then have a product of course when I do this project I'm not saving the hardware but I'm still a program so I'm very disappointed at the software even I go to the hometown I cannot tell my mom what I'm doing it's asking why do you come to Shanghai and what we do here I said I'm making the VR software so it's a very understand to know what I'm doing so after I develop this software I still cannot do that and the company they don't want to support me anymore so I'm very disappointed so I want to do some stuff in the package and sell them to make money and I want to do something like this so at this company most of my job is develop this software but sometimes I just develop hardware like this Arduino like the Tenya Arduino and then I turn it down and I just learn many things with the factory hardware manufacturer stuff because after I want to make some factory funny stuff and to make money so I just close that project and withdraw but and take a long time after that so you mean this project is the one that let you into hardware alright so you sort of say I want to figure out hardware and then I'm going to try this out so what's the most unexpected, most difficult thing you have learning hardware because I as well want to learn but I haven't sort of gotten learn to make the DIY stuff or learn to make the company hardware programming hardware and figuring out what it needs just which level you want to care making some cool stuff I haven't sort of figure out what project but it's definitely quite interesting program to control piece of hardware so no need to take too much time because if you're just learning Arduino maybe one month you can do many of stuff Arduino is pretty easy for the program so you did you see obstacles like maybe electricity oh wow, I didn't expect this to be so difficult more than it was before was it sort of smooth flowing it's very straight forward because many of people they work for the community community so many people they write library for the other people so if you want to do something maybe on GitHub you already have something for going before and you can get it how about soldering do any of those soldering or figure out electricity but you said your father is a electricity sometimes you can just learn one part of it and a lot of people together you don't need to learn programming assuring the kind of voice down even actually it helps sometimes you don't need to learn anything maybe you just have ideas it's good i just sort of think for example i know some programmers program nicely and then they get hit by wall the product doesn't look good it's just really complicated doesn't look good they didn't draw it out they didn't schedule it out so that's something that they didn't see this looks pretty good to me no i'm not saying that if i want to get into hardware is that sort of things that you sort of say alright i didn't expect that and that's something i thought i think what i would try to do with this is sort of teach yourself Arduino make a little kit where you could just learn how to put all these things together make it like kind of a toy for kids i mean wouldn't that be possible with this wouldn't it be very hard for me using that yeah so you throw a few arduinos and a bunch of sensors and effectors into a box and put some instructions in and they get the software off of github and i don't know i mean it definitely looks fun but i'm sure as this thing goes there's several walls that you're going to hit before you wrap your mind around what it is and my experience with learning to program is that there are certain walls that you couldn't see and if someone told you look at that specific thing first and then sort of in that way programing is a real hardware and learning computer science or something and it takes 4 years and i don't know in Singapore it will be better and in China they just finished 4 years from college and half of them cannot write pro software even they can never write pro software before and we can make so programming no i came programming very late i'm 35 now i do get it i mean i definitely want to learn the hardware i just sort of didn't have time to sort of go into it if you use a part time to watch the like the intrasport Instructables it's a website main off tutorial if you keep doing that and maybe every weekend you do it in half day i think half a year later you will be back yeah you will be persistent yeah there is a skateboard you can see the battery and then you can see the motor it's totally different from the skateboard in the market first one you want to do that so one of the members have one just to compare it's a you can do a comparison i think it will be more interesting so they're both no this is i mean one of the X6 members but it's a controllable skateboard i'm not very sure i think it's a commercial product i think it's a commercial product i think it's a commercial product 3 lines it's a skateboard yeah it's a skateboard it's almost like a snowboard yeah but it's very heavy i just leave it here yours looks very light and before we do that it's a big mistake like the Chinese we just do it for the best in the market so after 3 months we do it very well because we justify the best people on the market and send it to Shenzhen and give them money and with one week we get all the speciality very good ecosystem no no it's all re-engineered re-engineered you just give them the product and with one week they will give you all the data from this product we have very good re-engineered in Shenzhen what company make that so much re-engineered as you buy the skateboard and qualify to your requirement is that what you say if i want to call it that i just need to take it to Shenzhen and give it to the re-engineered company reverse-engineered reverse-engineered and i can get the CD file and actually scratch design and even get the code just pay money and not too much because they just re-engineered can you demo that and write that around alright so after few months we just talking about profit but i feel very angry because i hired people they are very very old they have very much of the of the even actually the mechanical the software idea they own the best people and they do copy stuff what i'm angry for is we take like 10,000 or 30,000 hours for our skill even the mechanical people they do the mechanical job for like 10 years and they have many of hours for their skill we respect our skill because we take many of hours to to do that or we just do a copy stuff copy stuff don't need that the student to do that the Shenzhen company to do that we don't need to do that they just break the copy stuff and we have 10 hours and we are very rich that cost a lot of money and one year we don't need to get any money and we can pay them no problem so we want to do something real different something real different like the market so we just no battery we want to no motor because those people market motor right here and the wheel in here so we want to do that very different so we think about can we put the motor inside the board maybe on the board maybe on the wheel maybe on the truck when MacBook Air release every computer battery can every but Apple they make the battery remove and we think about MacBook can make it so so light and we can do that also and we can copy that idea to the skateboard so we try to change the material and we don't care about because factory said how many what to do and say what for the prototype and he say get out of my office he whisper my kind so we try to visit every factory making skateboard in China feeling at the mountain country very village we just waiting for the door watcher and we give the cigarette to the door watcher security and we ask them what kind of finishing job last week or last month and he say they have nothing no busy here and we finish job at the right time and it's good factory because we don't have work to do and you can to work for you it's that I just finish my job at the same or 11 and we are very busy and you just go away because you cannot see the boss they are too busy and they have a lot of money to come in so we try factory to help us to improve the material because it's a very same thing but it can handle 3 people stamina so the material and it's very long so the material must be very strong and it's empty inside so the material must be very strong so so because the venturi inside so you cannot see that and all the control inside here and because it's making hot so it's made to for it and here is the motor inside it's a problem because inside we all make the hot motor but hot motor have a very weak quality in the price if you are sizing very huge you can have many of magnets so it's very powerful but if you are very less you can have very few of the magnets so it's not hard enough so you just make the gearbox inside so it's running at a different planetari so it's same normal gearbox still in space so you can wow so it's make the motor 3x purple so this thing it can go 30kmh real fast and it can take any people uphill on the ground parking on the ground parking no problem so on the floor 3 people only do the problem very proud and here is the road we have OERD screen because OERD is very ceiling power and this road can look like a road it means free track and it has magnet sensor so you can put remote noise so you put forward to go and everyone can breathe and when you brake it's going to be power you can add to the battery there you go so you can do it's a very nice idea because it build it a very scene and the range is not enough like this one and we have to let people go longer so how long depends on how much you regenerate sorry did you do a lot of test on the batteries because that's like the infamous problem and normal that's normal that's like the load is you're going to have lots of ya ya ya because many of the power board they have a problem with that so we try the many times to figure out what's happened to them and we find the battery because the battery is not excluded because the battery is excluded but only have one reason because it has too many monetization inside and you brake you cut the battery it does not fire it only can explode or make fire with over charge that's the only reason because you can take your phone or something so what if I took this to the top of the big hill and started heading down threw it into regenerative mode could I blow it up if I just if you're fast and you're not ready for it so people place people or YouTube or control by yourself but there's a reason making it too small start-ups cannot be using the specialized battery if you need you are the only battery cell need more millions of lotlambar with battery company you should choose you have to choose maybe battery cell on the market cost life battery very hard to so did you learn the battery by yourself was that process or did you take lots of test at first we found the factory in all round and most people just use as a textile battery because it's standard product if you want to make the customized battery it's very hard have to find different battery factory but the battery factory you don't make it a package and you need to find another factory to do the package because if you don't sell the battery factory you just sell the battery cell but the battery cannot connect to another thing so you have to something to do high voltage to make the battery together did you have to take a class on how this works or you have this knowledge no class so you have to sort of poke around and test and see what's going on just 20 in China we do business right just 20 we have to drink like 100 cup because you can go to even you can go to this factory and you can go to the factory and drink to the boss and he say oh i'm very worried about how to make the battery and maybe we don't know the battery factory but they know oh like a customer or or something and they so they let you into the factory to see the process of how they make so you have to sort of learn right but you have to trust that they make it to your spec pool i also and between big company to big company need a lot of drinks process but small startup between the small factory in China is more easy to hold the tea because small organization and small organization and they have to decide more and more logical process so you picked up the knowledge just reading the internet i mean if you know nothing about the battery drink to the factory boss and he say ok i find another company they maybe know that and give you address or number and you try to another company and see what you do and they say oh child you are so full you know nothing about it and you just said please tell me so you went through several iterations like testing to blow it up to sort of throw it and then if it catches on fire if you give a respect for the factory boss and here you are saying i think there was one in New York that was doing electric skateboard and it was selling quite bit on kickstart and then one of the boards blew up call on fire and the whole business went down the drain and if i remember correctly that was quite famous example i think they had to recall all the boards because one of them blew up i'm not sure what the company is buying because the reason of the hoverboard most of the board is hoverboard and the north center is another problem but most of the hoverboard blew up the reason is like hoverboard is very cheap it's very very cheap like a high chamber in in Shenzhen 399 RMB in Shenzhen almost like 18 Singapore dollar and buy hoverboard super cheap but it cannot be hoverboard cheap like this so the battery the battery has on this part that's the seal and that's the package on the package something named protected battery controller to protect the battery and this controller is very expensive because they have a gate to open the power the gate named most most belia MOS and MOS is pretty expensive and the hoverboard this kind of thing power more than 4 so it need a very big gate and the gate named MOS is more expensive so maybe we need 10 dollar or 10 dollar to protect it but if you sell a home for 90 dollar you cannot take 10 dollar to take the battery so some factory just said okay i will remove it but this bureau it always ask the cheaper stuff so the factory said okay if i remove it it can be very dangerous and this bureau said we just need cheap stuff just remove and if you remove you may charge the board the voltage can not control so sometime it just over charge and if you keep it charged a week what do you think about putting off-road off-road builds so bigger for like dirt like instead of going over a flat surface going over something very rough so you need bigger wheels no plus this is the lumbar and the lumbar is the sport and the lumbar sport has their own specification so if you make dirt stuff it will be quite cool i think if you can sort of snap on an off-road pair but the lumbar girl they don't think well to be the first isn't it yeah that's a much better transportation product but not a skateboard so you should respect the normal skateboard so how many 30s 50s we have 140 parts and they only have like drop factor some factor like the wheels the wheels the wheels all the metal to the bearings the bearings the bearings so the bearings the bearings and even you have to buy some nice for the only you can do that you don't want to do sleigh handle the stuff is gear it's a specific human because if you just use because gear have many ways to do some way very quickly we named electric spark i just use so very metal we always so expensive no it's very cheap sometimes we use the first hand and the second hand from Tokyo so it's cheap but the problem the surface is very bad so it's it's too small make big gear if you want to make some smooth surface you have to use knife to cut it and knife is very expensive actually they only use the second hand or three hand knife to do that but the it's not in the second hand nice to cut it so you have to buy it after the gear cuts because if you're metal it's very hard so you only have only can use the source metal i don't know what you mean it's without without fire it's soft right because metal it's not easy so you do that after the gear cuts yes, because the gear cuts first and put it on so it needs fire to up close control that but they have no problem inside because they have a very big room to make it hot and the raw parts is only low and not in your at the best position maybe at the corner and the corner temperature is different and you cannot set out the temperature curve for you yourself so maybe you have thousands of gear but only half parts it's okay half parts is too hot or too cold so you don't care to give you thousands of gear you have to pay then you have to get a lot of nothing to use here so the method is very very easy so how about maintenance do you need grease bearings wear and tear maintenance let's say a part breaks you know what a bearing is so bearings need grease and they wear out so let's say the one wheel is weird it's not the oil is dry or something that needs maintenance is that like did you factor it in maintenance of the boat it's just like bicycle you can find some workshop ah okay so you need to go to workshop if you were able to make that into a product how much do you think you would sell it for about i think it's it is in production so how many how many what is it because sitting hardware is very terrible and before i can't make it i'm over seven years i can $12,000 but in chinese because everything is cheaper but my house is still and for me i think maybe $4,000 per month it's okay i can buy something i want but after i clean the hardware it's a very large number let's make a come we can build $15 per day we have a lot of people and every people will power us you can have a lot of people and how many people will power $15 per day it's a very little number if you have a factory and you have you have a whole year and you can make okay just this number of stable it's not too much per year it's a whole factory and if every person sell and make it's a very very, very it's not that many skateboarders just making hardware it's it's not like software because before i never i never have a lot of money i'm familiar in my pocket but after this actually we have sometimes because when we making the whole board it cost a lot of where do you see a market you see in America which i guess that's like particularly California that would be the west coast that would be and China and and and i send with my personal so if you do hardware you have what kind of hardware which country which country which country you know which country which country your Kickstarter campaign you have the information which country amongst the beggars yes yes yes so how many orders have you gotten on Kickstarter order does that cover your costs if you make 1500 will you break even but actually it's not enough because you have to buy the material first and before we do that especially the maker normally the thing we don't need too much money we want to do something for one and he want to change so we don't need too much money so if we do the cost is a one hamburger you think maybe one hamburger can be it's okay some books just tell you you should have like a 2.3 yes so after the funding is a communication on the relation so 2.3x yes so you think maybe it's a very good money actually it's not it's totally not if you have your own website and you sell by yourself it's okay you can get one per 30 per product but your website only have one per day and we don't have more it's very expensive for simple or free very expensive some people just click come in if you don't buy something just watch your website you need to pay $3 i would guess this is a very specialized market but i guess the technology would be similar to those more ubiquitous you see people so what do you think would you say use that your gears and stuff like that i would imagine that would be great with a cool design and in one of those scooters oh really? oh cool it's a scooter not only this side so so we almost already it's similar to this and yeah that is super light just this side if you go back to work just like a bicycle the direction is wrong so what is the danger that you can run in a different direction and you don't have to use the software not first time so it's impossible what's the risk so danger is moving you mean player setting? demo video demo video? demo video oh you can see the fix main menu main menu main menu main menu main menu main menu main menu main menu main menu main menu see what to see promotion movie oh so you don't have but most of it's shown by our tanker so it's an Australian virus but this one is a real one not too easy this one stands from it's a very expensive CG if it is this one is not a computer great right? this is shown by this is a this is a this is a the menu is not black so you've already delivered to many of your Kickstarter backers and some of them have contributed videos back to you i think some CG CG CG CG comparing the weights let's try this hmm this is how hard they got it's heavy it's heavy but not a lot that one you'll never find it get up it's pretty long you know it's a so their design is similar to yours so what's the difference between yours and their design it's different it's have a there and the wheel is the other side and that's really big problem you just make so how much what is the minimum order quantity for the factory to accept your order how much do you need to order before the factory accept lots of tea actually the factory don't care about how many owner can give you the rest you really care about how long you will survive because factory they don't care about how much money they can get they care about if you can arrive you can keep give them $1 it's good they don't want you give them $1,000 and that's what we do factory factory he can make the best product for you change factory if you want special way to do that they will train worker they will change the room and do this thing after they change all the stuff they do that but they're sort of okay with the idea of changing factory doing your stuff for a while changing factory doing somebody else's stuff and then changing it back and doing more for you most factory just like this some factory they're very lucky so they can do something continuous some little factory don't have enough order just can find 3 3 stuff to do and for what problem you have to wait for for factory because if you want to change all the color and you said can you remove the wheel and change color it's not a problem you can do that only 1 day but before you have to wait 2 weeks because they have another order and you have to wait for it finish but the whole job only 1 day and so it's a very busy time but sometimes you can never understand why you have to wait 2 weeks so at this factory it's more open now that they see newer products coming in new cooler products today give you more attention do they say we want to do more newer products or do they say look we want to just do the old tried and tested thing new start ups you're not important enough but they're not open now because they see the potential and then they start to change their ideas sometimes if your order is very little and you not drink too much tea and there are some dangerous stuff that will happen for example if you have this product it's very cool very useful and you not drink too much tea if the boss and then you only need to do like a handker and they say okay we probably can do that and you have to work out but they do the same handker only can get like $1,000 of money and for them it's nothing but they can know how to do that and they fail that technology so they're going to copy it they're not copy they're selling the way of copy they're selling the copy technology to another factory and they have the whole factory to do that and they just say oh sorry we don't have time to do our business and keep making the product and many of Chinese company very good company if you look in that maybe you have to sell $100 but copy one $10 so you split your stuff up to different factories that's the first thing and they have factory SMB so they don't know how to get it and they probably actually they don't know each other because in China they only have 6 cup of tea or anything so the only thing is just to it means you want wifi? wifi is wifi you can fix it if you want to make mall mall mall is very expensive yes very expensive and if you control control this it's hard to copy because for them your mall is very expensive you make these old mall what mall is it? in some parts it's it's a it's a special especially i guess wow that's important no gomba but this are many gomba so people they want to do the same thing they will be looking for gomba public public case but they have to pay the money to do reverse engineering reverse engineering other mall if the study it will become more millions of product maybe we can find but maybe 10,000 or 11,000 i mean if you can sell 16 million i mean the factory will find a way to copy it i guess that's where you build your brand that's where you say look starry is really cool and really safe the battery is great but in china you cannot get all the fish because it's the same business you cannot escape but chinese they very like to do the same business if they can they see you get money i think dji that's the best example nobody has yet successfully copied dji i think that's dji is famous as the public but they don't know the biggest company but it's like that's where you go to buy if you want drones that's dji is the first company you go to get drones am i wrong but when i go to the fashion page i can very easy to find to a copy dji the form is very similar function and quality so what i'm saying is that they build up such strength dji is a very good example drone is being controlled i don't think chinese business man they don't think about that because if i want to build another dji or i can copy dji it's too expensive because i need to pay a lot of money for the mode and i have to have a lot of money to do anything but most chinese chinese business man they do a very cheap job only like single dollar you can buy a job and you can fly with him so i guess what i'm saying is when you reach a certain market cap you're getting a lot of products you're moving a lot of products then lots of people will be copying you so i'm saying dji lots of money everyone wants to copy dji and they didn't do it as well as dji so i guess what i'm saying is that if there is an example for a perfect hardware company dji would be one, isn't it so it's you know that i can experience that if you want listen i can see that it's a hard story because when you do the business the most thing you think about is how cool is the product and how much money you can get it's about risk all the thing is about risk and if you can't survive you can't get money and you can't wait for the opportunity and some opportunity is filled up in your head you can't get a lot of money so all the chinese business you think about is risk so why do you make the second dji is because it will do the whole job like if i want to do that business i think it's a very good business i will send you you're my friend you make the past business and i make the motor business and maybe other people that make some technical business and we can do that business together everybody do the one part of it and we can control the risk if i die you die with me so if many people on the same boat we can control the market we can control the material money so other people that want to do that the material they can't buy it or they can't buy it expensive and another of our brother in the retailer business they can control all the people in the market so another people if they not the symbol they cannot do the product on the showcase they can't get it so we can use that way to control the market and for our personal we only need to do very similar thing just make the active but still can get money but if you want to make another EGI you have to fight with other people and everyday you may die some plastic material money is higher and die and if your engineer leave it, you'll die you're still leaving you'll die there are too many waste for our hero so most of the chinese they just not be a hero and we are together to have a big boat that's why no chinese company they do the one hand drive draw they make it more grasp sorry what that's the point scale the scaling already it's also very important but very difficult for start-up scene i agree my other point is that besides the scale so the other people they do a more one version they doing the low version very low version but they can get the same money and be like EGI because the money is not about your product it's about is the DJI draw RMB and the cost maybe RMB2,000 you can get RMB15,000 oh gross but the chinese RMB100 but the cost of scale RMB15,000 so it's same business and to that business you need to do your best thing making the best thing and you can get the same money why you need to be a hero fight to more people that's the way you think about it so the chinese they really get it more than money and they don't care about it so DJI maybe the hero they can stand out people they want to be best but i'm saying it's a great GoPro is trying to do that to the same thing that's a parrot GoPro is very similar quality than original GoPro now GoPro is very difficult situation now GoPro is very hard very hard the big one as i said the big one is very low price but they have very big group they have very gold relationship material suppliers DJI can succeed still top of the world still high end but GoPro is very difficult situation in price is still high so quality is the same as other transit products just a very good symbol with chinese before 5 years Apple is very very fast and the chinese phone is very low price but now we can see many of chinese factory we can get the new technology before Apple Apple said i'm a very famous company i order one billion maybe one billion but the big group was chinese he said how about this business and you give me new technology i think mobile phones are more complicated than that you involve governments and they are more to bring an advanced smartphone i don't know i was just saying if ever the most successful chinese hardware manufacturer both quality looks cool marketing everything DJI is one very successful example it's also very difficult copy size, software intellectual property i think all this sort of build up in that sense all the other factories are unable to copy DJI because you need effort you need the will and they don't see what i'm sharing today i think it's very different with the American spirit to start a company i think this thing about innovation i try to be a hero but it will die it's very easy to die i'm telling about it's just an experience oh i mean it's brilliant i think it will definitely do well i think the one that you said the little motor scooter that i think will be a really proper hot seller i guess if you can reach that certain millions of dollars you eventually are going to be copying you and i guess that's good in a way and then you sort of have a different problem to deal with you can't stop you share first i have one question before i go it looks like you started off you're not even a mechanical engineer but you have this idea and now i look on Kickstarter twenty or thirty employees PR, marketing so how did you build the company up how did you get all these people to work for you because you are a leader of the team you don't need any skill because because if you can get a resource the resource and the human cost is very your resource is very huge you can use like ten thousand single dollar i think it's ten thousand very best people but as a VC your money is very huge ten thousand but you cannot pay higher risk so if you can get a resource or not we are both human because you take all the risk thank you very much that was really an excellent presentation very exciting i think it's almost done we have some questions to start thank you i'm sorry about my English