 There has been a disengagement with the nationalist communities from what might be seen as the forces of law in order and within nationalist communities There has always been a tradition of trying to deal with minor crime If you want to call it that was tried to be dealt with sort of internally within our own communities for a long long time There are many people that much more at home or comfortable with local vigilante type justice or paramilitary state justice I was buying large large amounts of grass and smoked it with my friends and the class had us drug dealing they just they wanted to ship me over Martin was drug dealing, stealing, joy writing Martin had been pursued by three different paramilitary organisations one of which said they were going to execute him They tried to kill Martin, we intervened We asked them if we could deal with Martin and make him see that what he was doing was wrong and it was an attack on his own community and if they were satisfied at the end of that they would love to threat against Martin I was about 14, got a threat, I got a threat from a certain group It was terrible knowing that there's nothing you can do for your own son and everywhere you go, people don't want to know and then I came to you then, a time to choose and with their help to get Jamie on the street and narrow and doors to us behind it We have made it very clear and we state constantly that violence is not the answer and nine times out of ten you usually find that there is a willingness at least on both sides to step back from the brink and the paramilitary groups tend to say look we're not really out here to shoot people just for the sake of it it's the behaviour that we want to stop and if the person's willing to stop the behaviour then there's no need for the threat