 All righty, so many thanks for once again hanging up with us right here on Why In The Morning. Welcome back. My name is Brian Sako. You can still continue to plug in the hashtag, Why In The Morning. That is everywhere on all our social media platforms, and try to fulfill your channel personally at Brian Sako 101. And we're going to talk about if you are starting a business back at home, if you have the vision or you have a dream of starting up something meaningful for yourself in terms of matters business. How do you go about it? And just in case you start something, how exactly do you get the resources? How do you plug in with people and network to a place your business becomes successful? And that is matters sustaining our successful business. And joining me live in studio with us right now is a powerful gentleman who goes by the name Pinto Pinias, or you can call him Pinias, or Pinias Mutuma, if you like. He's also the CEO of Grand Bosmani Ventures. And he's also been a model for LCOI Kiki as well. And he also has a brand company by name Kiyomo Mansuer. Good morning. Good morning to you. Thank you. Welcome to I-254. Thank you so much. I'm so privileged to be here. Right. A big thank you. All right. So let's get into it straight up. Before you got into this couple of businesses as well, and I love the fact that you're a model as well. What exactly was going through your mind before you said, I just want to now start my own business and become my own boss? Because a lot of people say, me here in Nyan Nyan, I have a job, I'm an internet CEO, KBC, I work in the same mode, I'm a co-presenter, but I don't have a company like you. Well, I think we all have different desires in life. And for me, my desire is like having that freedom. And on my end, I thought that freedom will only come with me running my own stuff, me building my own stuff. And that's why I was like, instead of working for someone, it's more of let me build something of my own, something that I'll majorly put in, much effort, because I know this is where I want to get that freedom from. So it was basically more of having that freedom. So yours comes from a place like, Takiko Shikomateka, Takiko Amuka, 8, I'm a 7, I'm a 6, I'm a 5. Well, not really, because I think with that comes with a lot of discipline. You'll have to put in discipline. Because now, working under someone, you're like, by 8, I need to be there, by 6, I'll have left, then that's it. So basically, by the end of the month, you are sure of a salary and all that. But now, if you sleep on it, then that's it, that's it for you. It has crashed for you. Basically, it's also a demand. Exactly. So you're your own boss at the same time, you're your own employer, and employee, that's it. I'm really interested to exactly know the nitty gritties behind Grand Boss Money Ventures, that you mentioned is a branding company that deals with all branding services needed. So basically, Grand Boss Money Ventures is a branding and clothing business company. It more deals with all branding services and needs. For the clothing part of it, we have a brand merchandise that we're pushing as a company, which is termed like the Hope Fill merchandise. The Hope Fill merchandise is part of Grand Boss Money Ventures. So we get to design them, then brand them there, then sell them out there. This Hope Fill merchandise is called The God Is Working On Me merchandise. Oh, that's powerful. How did you come up with that, The God Is Working On Me? Yeah. So The God Is Working On Me, it's an inspiration from my spiritual dad, Bishop Allan Keuna. There's a someone he taught about, and it was also powerful. And with our business, it's more of you virtualize, we actualize. So that someone really spoke to me, you know, and I was like, you know what, I'm gonna run with this. I'm gonna run with this, you know, and it has really made a great impact to the world out there. Right. Yeah. Amazing. Now, before you even settle to that, are there things that maybe you perhaps considered to, you know, visual, because you mentioned of, you visualize and then you actualize. Yeah. Are there things that you considered in terms of, if I start this branding business, what is my target market, who are my immediate clients as well, who are my competitors, did you ever like come up with such a conversation with yourself, or maybe had friends, you sat together and said, if I start this Bosmani Ventures, then these are main clients. And what is the exactly criteria that maybe you used to get up to that spot, and how you got established as a business? Well, one thing for sure I can say, there are so many people out here doing branding, you know. There is quite a countable number of people doing branding and all that, you know. I think it's just a matter of thinking differently, and trying to tend to identify a problem into the market, and now coming out with a solution, you know, and that's what I've measured like a Grand Bosmani Ventures is more of branding and a clothesline, you know. So basically, the clothesline part of it that you are pushing is the hope feel much under God is working on me. And the branding part of it, we've been looking forward to work more with corporates. So we've been looking more to work with corporates, and that's why we've been literally reaching out to different corporates here and there. So as much as we have any other branding companies and all that, our main aim is to build up, to have like an identity, you know. First our identity comes in with the clothesline brand, the hope feel God is working on me much under us. Then the branding more into the corporates, and I think that's all. Right, interesting. Because I feel like before you start something for yourself, you must give it like a symbol and allow the fact that, you know, you have the whole field sign. In terms of networking, who are some of the people that you're working with on the market that you can mention as well, that you'll say the moment I connected with this person or this brand, we rose up. And business-wise, these are like our support system. Okay. Ah, wow, wow, wow, wow. I'll say God has been faithful because it's literally been one year, three months, like having the grand boss money ventures. One major influencer I'll really mention that has been there since like we were two months old is the current MP for Langata, Hon Felix Odiwar Jalango. He's really been of great influence to the brand. And I can actually say like where we are is also because of him. Having influenced ourselves with his brand has really been a great boost to the company. And he's been also so, so, so much supportive. We actually did all his campaign merchandise from the first merchandise up to the last merchandise. And apart from that, he's also introduced the company to his circle, his influence. And considering to network even more and over, you know, yeah, exactly. And now considering his, now the current MP for Langata, we're looking for it to also even work in greater heights and greater spaces. Right. And I can see there's a photo with you, it come in a Gora in Jalas as well. Yeah. This should be at Kisefem, right? Yeah, this is at Kisefem. Now these are the hopeful, God is working on me merchandise that I was talking about. This was when they, it was actually last year when we were actually, I was actually delivering them to Kamene and Jalas. So that was, that was like, it was like an amazing highlight. And I love the fact that you said God is faithful. Yeah. Gora has really been faithful. Not everyone can actually get such easy support or such an amazing, massive support from, you know, such a big shirt like Jalas. And for anybody who's watching back at home and maybe they are stuck at a place of hopelessness, they're trying to start a business, but they're not seeing the signs of their business coming to fruition or it being stable. You come of it to Zinedalakudi Demir, like the more and a pump in the money, the resources, the stock in Zinedalakudi Chinna Zaman Biage, what exactly should, should be that one thing that they should hold on to, to make them stay afloat business-wise? I think one of the best thing we can sell off as human beings, its hope, you know, if we can even use an example of Jalango, you know, looking where he is now and where he was back then, I guess most of us know history and all that, you know. So he is a common fisherman from the village, you know, and looking where he is now, it's like a total different space and all that, you know. So the reason I'm saying one of the best thing we can sell off as human beings, its hope, you know, like there's someone who is actually at a state where he was back then, you know. So what awakens his or her hope is like seeing where he is now, you know, so like literally that awakens your hope, you know. And then one thing with greatness, if you don't believe you're destined for greatness, then you are not. So first thing, you have to also believe in yourself like, you know what, I believe that I'm going to run a very successful business and all that, you know, exactly, you know. And once you've believed in that, each and every day you'll always be doing something towards that goal, you know. So I mean you don't end up in a coma or end up in a coma. Like prayers don't work like that, you have to put in work into those prayers, you know. Yeah. Another thing like also get to have a plan, you know. Business plan. Exactly. Get to have a plan and get to know how you want to be, give yourself short term goals, long term goals, midterm goals. And I think with that everything will start like running successfully. And above all, like always involve God in whatever you do and all that. Amen. Now, personally for your businesses, how do you stay afloat? Because right now, I love the fact that your business, you started when at least the pandemic was almost ending. Was it in the middle of March? It was actually when it was ending, ending. But now the ideal started when COVID was like, yeah, like, so it's like you never experienced the hard effects of COVID. No, no, I'll say no truly. You'll say you're like on the safer side. Exactly. Now, how do you stay afloat business wise? Because I know there are challenges in every company. Every business has a challenge, financial, be it employees or employee-wise and even just trying to maintain that stable spot. How do you stay afloat and become successful? And I can see right there you have your page, it's been shown on the screen, the Grand Bus Mavic Business. I can see you're also digital as well, right, you have the page on Instagram. Digital is the current big thing, you know, because I can say most of my clientele are actually from the social media platforms and all that. So maybe to answer your question, I'd say like it's been more of having a close support system. Okay. So when I talk of a close support system, it's whereby you have friends around you that also believe in you, you know, because literally they've seen where you've come from and all that, you know. So they'll rather purchase something from you, like, exactly, just to motivate you, you know. You know, that time you're like, my business is currently doing good and all that, you know. And then just to give you hope, it's like, you know what, I'll buy this, you know. Yeah. Even if I don't need it. Exactly, you know. And from him or her buying it, he also tries to sell the idea to someone else and also to the people around him. So I'll say, one thing I'll just say it's been favour, I can say it's been favour from God. Amen. Amen. Like, him connecting me also with some great influencers has like put me on top there. I wouldn't say I'm yet where I want to be, but I can say I've been... You've made strides. Yeah. You've absolutely made strides. Exactly. That are remarkable. Yes. All right. Because, you know, it's not easy, like we said, to, you know, just start something in a year. Yeah. And then... And then you have, you know, celebs, you know. Exactly. Big shots, shouting you out, recording videos with you. Yeah. In terms of, in terms of imaging, I once attended Caroline Toko's class where she was talking about even personal visibility for our career or even as a brand and even products as well. She was very instrumental on SMEs and she was saying the first people see when they come across your product should be a representation of that image. So the first thing they see should actually make them memorable, like remember that product for you. What are some of the things that you've put together that make your brand memorable to your clients that you'd say once you see this, just know that this is by pinyas to her? Well, well, well, well, well, our work is more of the design. Okay. It's more of playing with the design, you know. Okay. This includes colors or graphics? Graphics also, how you also play around with colors, you know. Wow. Like if I may use an example of the God is working on me. You've seen there's some with black, some with white, some with glittering and all that, you know. So I think I'll say it's more of playing around with the graphics and the colors. Okay. And like more of having an identity, like for us as Grand Boseman adventures, as much as we're into the branding industry and all that, one of our identity I can call it off. Like even if someone walks out there and see our brand will be the God is working on me merchandise. Doesn't have like a sign, you know. I've seen cars like Tesla, they have like a T in a T. Tesla is T, literally, that's their sign. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even Mercedes-Benz is like a sign. Exactly. For now it currently doesn't have a sign, but believe us, time goes by, will literally maybe build up something that will like literally make it have a sign. All right. Yeah. But now you're visible on digital as well, you know, a lot of people don't know even the biggest stars who are discovered on digital and social media. How important is it to have your business on social media, especially right now? Well, as I said earlier on, like digital is the next big thing, you know. I think so many of us have ventured more into the digital world and all that. Now you'll get quite a good percentage of clients from the social media and all that. And then the good thing with the digital nowadays, we're given also an opportunity to like boost our work to reach a different, to reach a higher number of clients, to reach a high number of people. So having been doing that, it gives you a clientele that is even outside your environment. Like I can get even a clientele from outside the country just through the digital platform. Right. Yeah. And then it also gives one a chance to showcase your different work. It's easy for me to send someone to my digital platform, get to see the various work I've done there and all that. Right. Yeah. There's a question we had asked today on our social media, and I was alive to ask you. We had asked if you were to start a small business, where do you think is the best place to get your capital? Capital includes resources, money. You know a lot of people usually think capital is a little bit money, but money is also in there. Okay. Like where is the best place to get resources to start your business? For you, where would you say you got your first, first, first, first like first resource? It could have been money. Did somebody bless you with some cash, yourself, did you borrow? As I've said, I don't go that I work in favor. So it's an idea I had. And someone decided to bless me with supporting me start of this business. Okay. He came through and it was just like, this is what I need and need. And he was like, you know what, I'm going to support you to start off this business. Right. And well, that's what happened to me, you know, but one thing I'll also suggest to, I'll suggest in terms of capital. I think one of the best thing, one of the best thing one can start off with savings. Right. You know your goal. Okay. Like maybe in 2023, I want to set up maybe a certain business, you know, what you can start doing is try, try, try, start saving up. Right. Once you start saving up, once you've gotten to your goal, you may not have gotten the exact capital you've got, you know, but it will be like, you've literally taken some steps ahead and all that, you know. Exactly. And then I'd also say, build relationships. Right. Build relationships with people. Exactly. It's, it's not even more of networking, you know, it's, it's, it's one way of me knowing Jalango, it's another way of me having a relationship with him. Right. You know, a relationship you know by it, it will be of benefit, like once you've built a relationship with even such people, it's easy for you to even reach out to them exactly and they're like, you know what, this is the deal I have. This is what I have. I would love you to help me. Exactly. You know, you can even go into various insurance company or whatever, SACOS and all that. Like literally this is what I have, you know, rather than literally starting from zero. Right. So I'd recommend more savings, I'd recommend also more. Networks or friendships. Building relationships. Relationships. And build relationships that are of wealth, value and beneficial. Sizzler too is a machine. Yeah. I don't know, it happens anyway. Exactly. Now there's always competition. Every business faces competition and lazima. For you even to stay out on top of the market, I remember when, I use an example of Bugatti a lot. Bugatti, when Bugatti come, they don't have much competition though, they can make just one car and sell it to one person and then they still make a million dollars and still on a Zafunga show, part of the show is a merger. It's like they don't have so many competitors. But Izimaga Rizengine, they have so many competitors. You use it and it happens even in businesses as well. Next and next and you have to compete for the same client, same market and still be able to make something for yourself. How do you handle competition from other branding companies? And positive competition. See you next June and then I'll tell you next June and then I'll tell you next June and then I'll tell you business and then down. Does it happen? Well it happens. It really happens. And it happens a lot. But God wouldn't give you something that He wouldn't help you manage through and all that. And I'll still narrow it down to, yes there are so many people in the industry and all that. But the beauty of it or the good thing about it is having an identity, you as a company or as a brand. And when I talk of an identity, there may be someone else who does the same exact job that I do. But in terms of services, someone will still recommend my services or someone will still recommend his services. So basically it's like build an identity. An identity in terms of how you do your services, how quality are your goods. Because at the end of the day it's not just about making sales and all that. Or profit. Exactly. For us we'll really want you to feel the wealth of your money. So I'll narrow it to basically building an identity. You're also a model or would you say you're an ex-model or you still continue to be a model? I'm still a model. I'm still a model. And we talk about that because in our daunting relationship to even owning a business, there are like totally two different careers as well. How did you stop the modeling to start a business or you started the business and went into modeling? I've been a model for a while. I'm still. Modeling has been my thing since then. Since then back in school and all that and then people are like you can venture into modeling and all that. It's just that people always have that one thing apart from what they do that they are so passionate about. So I've always been passionate about modeling because I actually love fashion. So in that extent of loving fashion it makes me want to model for different brands. And it has also given me opportunity to be models with great company, talk of Elsie Waikiki which is a very, very big brand, talk of Kie Mo Menswear which is also a menswear that is coming up so big. So modeling is also part of me. It's also part of me. And you're going to do it for long. I can see there's an awesome photo of you right there. This was actually styled by Kie Mo Menswear. The whole outfit is actually from Kie Mo Menswear. So that's like a leather coat? That is a leather jacket and then there's the shirt and then there's the jeans. The ragged jeans and then we have the chase boots. So how much in total are these? I think almost the leather jackets go around for 55 but they have different varieties. Their shirts you can get them from 1500 to 2 Gs depending on the type of shirts. The jeans you can also get them from 1500 to 3000 depending also with the type of jeans and all that. Then the chase boots go for 1500. I have three questions for you and then we'll end it. One of the questions is, since you're a fashionista as well, what do you think is the biggest fashion mistake that a lot of men make in terms of combining ensembles or outfits before you get out of the house? Like what do you think is common in Kie Mo Menswear? I don't know what to say about the way you combine outfits because I believe it's also coordinating different outfits in the end match. I think I'll just narrow it down to get to know yourself and get to know your body. For me maybe a baggy jeans wouldn't look good on me but it would look good on someone else. So you go for custom made as compared to Gucci, Versace, Eves and Laurel? Well I'll say I love more of custom made because custom made you can literally customize yourself. Make it to your own fit design. Exactly. But for designer, you see like whatever we have here, this is actually now, this is a Nelsi Waikiki. The t-shirt, the jeans and the shoes and all that. So I'll just narrow it down to get to know yourself. Maybe on your end you'll have more of an official wear. For me I'm more of casual. You see when maybe I do official kind of looks a bit like I've literally stressed myself You're not comfortable. Exactly. There's one of the guests we interviewed like a couple of months ago before after the election I was going to say fashion is emotion. So how you feel is we see it in how you address it. Exactly. There's a way you'll want also to be addressed. There's a way you'll also want to have your outfit. You're not comfortable. Exactly. There's a way you'll want also to be addressed. There's a way you'll also want to have your outfit towards a certain event, a certain place. Dressing for the occasion. Exactly. It's funny like you're dressed for a wedding in a ripped jeans. It kind of looks like you don't know exactly. You're confused in short. Yeah. Second, last question. What is that one lesson that you've learned in business and handling all these things interacting with people that you'd say this is what I have learned and I think it's very important. Anybody who's watching right now, take this to the bank for free. Wow. Wow. Wow. Entrepreneurship. One thing I'll say entrepreneurship is an unending journey. Right. Like entrepreneurship is an unending journey. You may think you have it all, but by the time you're getting maybe to tomorrow, something else comes up and then you have to restrategize. Okay. You know. The reason I'm saying like it's an unending journey, you have to be comfortable enough to like run with seasons. Okay. When I talk of running with seasons like you have to be well prepared enough like worry if this man that don't make sales, you know, I still need to push my business and all that. Right. So you also don't get comfortable. Right. Don't get comfortable. Always be on the look. Always do research. Always try out something. Right. Entrepreneurship is also risking. Right. Get to risk. It's risking. It's risk taking. Get to risk. You know. You must be a risk taker. Yeah. You have to be a risk taker. And just do all your level best to go out of your ways. Right. You know. And during the process is a bit much hard. Somebody said, I'm going to say, embracing the process is a lie. You don't have to embrace the process. Yeah. Actually some people have been like, I think it's high time the process will now be trusting me. Yeah. Don't trust the process anymore. Love the process trust me. Exactly. But you have to go through it anyway. Exactly. So it's just a matter of enduring the process. Right. And the more you endure the process, the more it gives you confidence. The muscle as well. Exactly. It builds you up and all that. So that even by the time you are in your first year and your third year, the challenges you're facing in your first year, you can actually evade them so easily. Yeah. Exactly. Because you already have experience. Exactly. You already have the know-how. Yeah. And also get to interact with also entrepreneurs. Get to know how they are doing their business. Get to know how they run their things. Okay. That's all. Right. Before we get to your social media, what is the worst mistake that you will never do? Before you say what people can find you faster, faster. What? Second, what is the worst mistake you can never do? Worst mistake I can never do. Right. Wow. Wow. Wow. Worst mistake because you're out of time. Worst mistake I can never do. Okay. Okay. Okay. Worst mistake I can never do. I think giving up on myself. That's nice. That's inspirational. Giving up on myself. On yourself. Yeah. All right. Tell us your social media. Where can people access your business as we exit before I sample two, three comments. Okay. So you can literally get us on all social media platforms. The business social media platform of Grand Bus Money Ventures. On Instagram, you can get us as Grand Bus Money Ventures. And on Facebook also as Grand Bus Money Ventures. You also want to reach us via call or WhatsApp. You can reach us out via 07-45-684-516. And you can also reach out to me on all my social media platforms, at Pinto underscore Piniers on Instagram, at Pinto Piniers on Facebook and Piniers Pinto on Twitter. Absolutely. And thank you for that. Let me just sample of just two comments. I know we are out of time, but it's important. We had asked you, if you want to start a small business, where do you think is the best place to get your capital? And Koki Joby, you know, say, good morning. Tune in from Nairobi, Kibra. Thank you so much. Dali's KE2, you know, say, good morning. Tune in from Juja. Mugera, you know, say, I start by borrowing a loan, J.J. Ozingo. Then lastly, Chris, you want to say, I think I can get it from my friend. And I love the fact he also mentioned building friendships. Thank you so much. Pinto. Thank you. Pinto is the A.K.A. Actually, the A.K.A. is the Blessed Son. Oh, it's the Blessed Son. Yeah, they call me the Blessed Son, Pinto Piniers. All right. Thank you so much for your time, and thank you so much for coming through. We wish you the best of luck in the world. Thank you so much. We are rooting out for your business as well. Thank you so much for giving me this opportunity. Thank you for granted. Right. Be blessed. Thank you. You're welcome. And on that note, we'll call it a day. You can continue to interact with us once again on the hashtag, in the morning everywhere on all our social media platforms. My name is Brian Sakwa. Like I always say, grab yourself a bottle. Right now, you should grab yourself a bottle of coffee because it's cold or water if it's applicable. And mind your business. See you again on Thursday for Thursday Vibes.