 Hey, guess what? It's Monday night. Finally. Yeah waiting weeks for a Monday night. I know you've been gone for three weeks now So we're back finally a little So it's voice over body shop time and tonight our guest is Kat Cressen who's Does everything and physically here and she's physically in the studio, which is always good kind of guess. Yes, so We've got a little bit of tech. We'd love to get your questions about tech and of course You'll be able to ask questions of Kat as well So stay tuned. We got lots to talk about here on voice over body shop coming up right now two men twin sons from different mothers with a passion for voice over recording technology and The desire to make recording easy for voice actors everywhere together in one place George Whidham the home studio engineer to the stars a Virginia tech grad with an unmatched knowledge of all the latest gear and technology in voiceover today Dan Leonard the home studio master a voice actor with over 30 years experience in broadcasting and recording and a no holds barred myth-busting attitude for teaching you how easy it is Together to bring you all the latest technology today's voice over superstars and Leaving the discussion on how to make the most of your voice over business This is voice over body shop Voice over body shop is brought to you by voice over essentials comm home of Harlan Hogan signature products Source elements makers of source connect source connect pro and source connect now The O to go go dot com everything you need to become a successful voice artist voice over extra your daily resource for VO Success the VO dojo take your voice over career all the way J. Michael Collins demos when quality matters and by voice actor websites dot com Where your voice actor website shouldn't be a pain in the butt And now live from their super secret multimedia studio in Sherman Oats, California Here are George Whidham and Dan Leonard Good evening. I'm Dan Leonard, and I'm George Whidham, and this is voice over body shop or VO BS All right. That was an exciting opening to the show. Wasn't it? Yeah, so we had it We actually had to take a little hike to produce that for three years. We've been trying to do this Yeah, a little bit of a hike You know we've been wanting to do a shot from behind the Hollywood sign for three years And we could never get our my drone to do it. We nearly took some people out with the yes over at the observatory But we got our drone pilot Corey showed up and we're like, what's the fastest way there? Well, as you can see here. We are Going up the this large precipice now. It looks like we're just climbing up a trail here Yeah, but as you'll see it this is this is what was called the wishing tree trail. That's right Which is the the farthest it's it's as the crow flies the easiest way I think it's Mount Burbank. Is that what it is? That's what we're heading. Yeah, and so as you can see we're you Can't even see us anymore And it's it's a big mountain and well, there we go Keep going because you got to see you you climb all the way up to the top and Then we went all the way to the top of that saddle and all the way across that rage Over to the Hollywood right about there. Yeah, right there was where we had to stop that that was it was a 1.6 miles of craggy single track and up and down mostly up. Yeah, and it's quite epic Yes, and of course every time we would ask somebody I know we're here somewhere Okay, it's okay making an edit. There we go. All right, so every time we would ask somebody are we getting there? Oh, yeah, you're close that was like on that going up that first hill, right? They were saying you're close to climbing the first part of the trail, right? They didn't know we were going Hollywood they could they just said you're close to the top We're like, yes, right and then we get up there as a sign. It says Hollywood sign this way 1.2 more miles Which 1.2 miles not a big deal. No unless you're doing what we were doing right basically scrambling. That's yeah It was up and down. It was it was interesting. It was pretty awesome We didn't walk back that way though. No, we took the road down and then got an Uber We did learn something about drones and high-tension lines. Yes We watched Corey fly his drone under those high-tension wires I don't know if you noticed but it didn't like that very much There's a lot of magnetic interference coming off of those high-tension lines And the compass and the drone would just make the drone stop moving completely And it was just a miracle that he got that thing back, you know, that's what he's doing Yeah, he's he's a pro but that was a blast. All right. Well on to voiceover and it's now time for V.O.B.S. Voice over extra news all the information you need for a successful voiceover career All righty, here is the voiceover extra news for September 17th 2018 vetting VO agents Do you need agents to succeed in voiceover for many of us? Yes, but is any agent the right one for you? For most of us? No It's important to vet or carefully research an agent or agency before seeking representation there During our break the last what felt like two months Voiceover extra posted an informative series by Tom Deere on V.O.A. agents With part one delving into how to know you're actually ready to seek an agent or agents and part two Detailing how to vet them tonight. Let's highlight what to look at when vetting an agent Are they franchised in this case the term? Franchised refers to the agent who's licensed by the state in which they operate and has been officially approved by the SAG after Union how many voice talents are on their roster? Too many may mean too little or no personal attention Three which markets do they cover for instance New York City, Los Angeles Dallas, you know that kind of thing You need to know number four. Do you have to sign with them some require it some don't five Do you have to be exclusive with them again? Some require it some don't Six where do they get their auditions from? They get them from certain p2p sites that may be an ethical issue watch out for that Seven are the auditions union non-union or both Eight are the auditions online in person or both Do they require a commission from just the gigs they book you or for all of the gigs you book everywhere Some do some don't unless they are truly managing your career and you're booking gobs of great gigs with them I wouldn't go with the all gigs everywhere agent and 10 Do they require you to take classes with certain coaches before they will represent you and finally a major league red flag Do you have to pay any listing fees to be represented remember you don't work for your agents you work With your agents this series and hundreds more helpful articles for your voiceover career is available now at voiceover extra comm your daily resource for voice over success Mm-hmm. All right getting an agent not the easiest thing in the world But I'll bet our guest tonight can't be able to tell us a little bit about her experience with getting an agent Yeah, we'll learn her journey to the two agent. Yeah. Yes. So what's up in tech this week? well, the latest thing that I've done personally was Putting up a review and I did get a review posted for the mixer face Which, you know, you guys maybe a little tired of hearing about it by now. We've talked about it a lot We've got one here in the box This thing was kind of like a legend Aka vaporware for a really long time. We knew it was coming. We finally got it and I got my review up And if you head over to George the tech's YouTube channel, it's George the tech You'll check out my brand of a review. My reviews are not just like it does this it does that it has these specs I actually do run through the use of the unit how it works. It's even more of a tutorial than a review But you can go check that out at your leisure Pretty impressive little piece of kid. I'd have to say what else is new in terms of The big thing I saw everybody talking about all the techie people especially was waves plugins bundle It's the new platinum. It's every plug-in ever released by waves for only 199 bucks or something like that Everybody was going crazy about it. And the question is did you go buy it? I didn't buy it. No, neither did I Um, I mean, what do I need if we'll talk about that in the next segment we could talk about that later But if you're producing fine, but vote folks if you're a voice actor You've got yourself good equipment your microphone set up correctly your room acoustics are good The guys the the gals the people that need a thing like that waves platinum bundle producers engineers people that are paid To have all of the latest gadgets bells and whistles and have every plug-in known to man Those are the folks who are gonna benefit from something like that And I have to say in my little experience working with wave apps or not wave apps wave apps is a is my accounting software Sorry waves plugins Is that their licensing system can be a little Cool vocabulary word either arcane or draconian one of those two words might be the right word Anyway, it's can be frustrating to to deal with their their Licensing system sometimes said ask you for their for your for your first born or something like that There's a lot of login information and I just I bet if all the plugins I have dealt with the third-party ones people seem to have more trouble with wave plugins than anything else also another big plug-in that was released Funnily enough the day that was released was the day that waves announced their super mega deal Isotope RX 7 came out last week Dan and I were hiking a mountain instead of going to a clinic about we were gonna go to a clinic over It crossed town. We needed to go to another clinic afterwards. Yeah, I'm glad you're okay But we were supposed to go to see a nice live demo with a producer of isotope RX 7 We didn't get to do it But thanks to the internet that whole demo was recorded and it was done over at West Lake Pro audio So if you go to their website, you can find I think an hour and a half long live demo of Isotope RX 7 I don't know enough about it quite yet to say go out. You got to have it. You got to have it I don't think quite yet But we'll let you know we're gonna spend a little bit of time experimenting with the demo and see if it's worth buying into it Cool. Alrighty. Well, we got lots more to talk about in the tech stuff in our next segment and catcress it Will be with us in just a few minutes. So stay tuned. We'll be right back here on voiceover body shop Don't go away. 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All right, we're back here on voiceover body shop cat crescent has come up in just a few minutes But it's time to talk tech Because when Dana George talk tech people listen some odd reason But if you really need help with your studio there's only two places on the face of the earth you really need to go because we see lots of people saying yeah I can fix your studio or something like that said person thinks a lot of those people studios by the way Yes, the ones where they were somebody else by somebody else, right? Yeah, somebody who says I'm an audio expert and what they do is they install speakers for music You know doesn't make them an audio expert, you know the home studio is a very very specific unique environment it is and You need somebody who knows what those that's all about someone who's been in a lot of closets and a lot of booths and oh man A lot of clots a lot of closets. It's amazing what some people wear, but And you get to see it all but mostly that's the best place to record But we can teach you how to do that and if you want to work with George and have him set up a voice over palace for You where do they go? You can head right over to George the tech calm or if you like those really short geeky URLs that's George the dot tech and I've got all sorts of services that you can schedule or you can just book right on the website and send me your files I'll send you back the results from stacks to presets sound checks all that kind of stuff and Dan You do something kind of similar over at your site Yes, you can go over to home voiceover studio.com and I'm there and Yeah, I do a lot of the same things we can do house calls I can work with you with over zoom make sure that your audio is sounding right And on my website you can click on the specimen collection cup and send me a Sample of your raw audio for 25 bucks and I will analyze it and we will see if you need to have a Little help in getting it sounding like you're not in a tube or in your bathroom And amazing boxy studios is our specialty. That's what we do we fix them and you sound as good as anybody else Thanks for clarifying Fixing them is our specialty. Yes. Well, yes setting them up right in the first place. We also do some other people Anyway, so check those out. Well, you know, I got an email from somebody this week He says, you know, I've been working with you. I got that new AKG mic that you said I should probably get Now I need you to tune it in so I can sound terrific I Immediately wrote back. Could you define? Terrific. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what he wants you to figure out, right? It's like again folks The idea of your home voiceover studio is not to make you sound terrific It's to make you sound like you You as you exist in the environment in which you record and which is what you and I do is we get that environment To just record your voice and not the sound of traffic going by and not the sound of helicopters Yeah over and not the sound of your dog barking or on the nails on the floor Yes So, you know, there's really not a lot of things that really need to be done If you're a good voice actor because voice acting is all about being an actor and understanding the script Yeah, we just make sure that your audio Sounds the way it's supposed to sound. There's no enhancements. There's no equipment There's nothing out there that's going to make the difference between you getting the job and somebody else Especially on an audition It really is all about getting it done right in the first place So you have to do as little as possible and leaving an engineer The space to use all those waves plugins, right exactly We do I mean when I set up a booth 80 to 90 percent of it is definitely mic placement room acoustics mic technique Not having a junkie mic having, you know decent equipment, you know, not you don't need to spend crazy money here Equipment that's going to capture clean audio, but after that that last 10% That's where some processing will come into play sometimes and especially for doing auditions I will really look into creating a Processing preset of sorts. Maybe a couple of different things in a stack or a rack or whatever your software is using to just Give it a little spit shine Especially for auditions, right, you know, it's the thing is I've told a lot of voice actors at this point To put processing on their auditions right or wrong That's what's been being done now a lot for the last four or five six years So when folks who work with me for the first time asked me that question I had a fellow fellow asked me today named Freddie He said do do I put this processing on my additions and I said well first of all our motto if it sounds good It is good, right, but even then if your levels are You know a little on the low side because you didn't normalize or there's a lot of peaks in the audio Yeah, mix a lot of dynamics. Yeah, if you're doing animation stuff Those dynamics are gonna make the overall volume Lower and it's not gonna grab attention quite as well So a little bit of the right compression a little bit of processing a little bit limiting in the right amount just a little bit It's like cooking. It's just the right amount. It's not enhancement. It's correction Yeah, some of you I think you shake the salt pepper a salt chigger and the lip falls off by mistake Yeah, it's good enough. Yeah, and pour some sriracha in there while you're at it No, just a just a dash of this and dash of that and that can give you that little bit of a You know a little bit of an edge, but that audio is kind of sound good first and processing can't fix everything Exactly. One of the tools we use and we're going to show you now on DAW View 2018 Look at this. There it is. That's a spectrogram. That is a spectrogram, and that's all for tonight folks What now people ask us what is a spectrogram what is this we're looking at here Well, this is a lot of people don't understand that our voice Exists a different frequencies and while we're all used to looking at You're looking at the waveform view, right? Yeah, which is sort of the two-dimensional version. It's sound Or volume of sound over time, right? But what this is is a graphic representation of the different volume of different frequencies You follow that? All right. So for example down here this these are the lower. These are the lower frequencies down here So if you're you're if you're looking at this you'll realize that if something is really bright Bright yellow and an isotope uses pretty much the same color scheme This will show you if you're too loud or where certain anomalies may exist Yeah, and I can see on here. There are a number of things that are going on you can see consistent There's music in there and you can see up here. There's These these lines come on. I know you're there. Did it freeze on me? There? Okay, you can see these different lines different striations, right? You can see lip smacks. You can see all sorts of stuff that you can't normally see on this normal Waveform thing now sometimes you can see it if you stretch it out a little bit So the question is how much time should one as an asked voice actor spend cleaning up that stuff cleaning up and spending their time in spectra view or spectrogram or whatever Versus, you know, is it worth spending a lot of time in there? How much do you use it every day? Yeah, but then again, I've been doing it for for ten years. So I know that I know exactly what I'm looking for it There's a little bit of a learning curve to it. But what is it for the most? A lot of times for deep-breathing or just highlighting a breath and taking it down for say 15 DB or something along those lines or if there's a lip smack or if it's really good at taking out some of the lower frequencies and really getting a good idea of your noise floor because in in empty spots you'll see how low a Rumble might be if it's below your voice because our voice exists somewhere between saying 90 Hertz and say 15 15,000 or 1550 kilohertz and if there's a noise that is below that That's usually gonna do it. Mm-hmm Okay, are we still on here? Yeah, we are it's just our little monitor. This is throwing a tantrum. Oh, okay It's working. All right. That's good to know. All right, so Use the spectrogram. You got to learn it. It's you know isotope has a great one Yeah, I was fixing somebody's studio over the weekend and they had there was air conditioning on so it's Band this dark band at 60 Hertz It was really impressive And you can just zero it in and just take it out speaking of like crazy like bands of noise that are just throughout the whole thing When I was over at a studio today when the door to the booth was open. There was this super super low frequency Standing wave you could almost hardly hear it. You more felt it than anything right when you shut the door It went away. It was like it was like it was the door opening was allowing the sound to slip into the booth And then the booth was acting as a resonator making it even louder It was so weird and we're I couldn't figure. I mean it was really low. It was probably like 20 or 30 Hertz. Wow, so I couldn't figure out one's gonna hear that only dogs gonna hear that it's a thing But if you're in the booth You hit you like you almost feel it and you're trying to like not trying to concentrate And you hear that and that sound can be really rough And I went to another studio in Sherman Oaks, and I heard a similar sound in their studio Hmm so one was in Toluca Lake one was in Sherman Oaks something descending There's a sonic attack going on here. It's the Cubans It was really bizarre taking a diplomats now. They're attacking voice actors I mean you can high-pass filter that kind of stuff out But if it's actually in your ears when you're recording it's tough that better do it now, right? Okay, enough tech for one night time to get to our guest in just a couple of minutes So stay tuned Kat Kessler will be with us right after these important messages Are you confused about how to set up and maintain a professional quality voiceover studio? 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It was born out of a necessity to replace dying technology aging technology such as ISDN and it is definitely something that's caught on big time in the professional studio world So if you want to give it a try start demoing it today You can get a free trial for 15 days You don't have to have one of those little iLok USB key thingies you've heard about for source connect standard Only need that for pro go give it a try try it out test it Do a echo loop and listen to yourself or connect to a friend or support and see what it's like to work Real-time with other studios go check it out. I won't be right back With cat and dad right after this. Yeah. Hi. This is Carlos Ellis Rocky the voice of Rocco And you're watching voiceover body shot cat Cressida is Everywhere from national flight commercials animation video games trailers promo and even celebrity replacement work We'll talk about that cat does it all and she'll and she's here to talk to us about her career And how to find your niche Welcome to show. Thank you. Nice to have you here Now you do an awful lot of stuff, but my first question is always because not everybody's from here Where are you from originally and and we'll talk a little bit about how you got into where you are So where are you from? Well originally? Was it was here for two seconds born and then immediately shipped off to Chicago Which is a fascinating Story my dad was an advertising and ended up in New York for some of my formative years and a lot of Sleepaway camp always in upstate New York So and a lot of Broadway upstate Lake Lake Hudson Valley upstate or sort of like Ramapo up Catskills, okay area the boys belt And then back to Los Angeles for high school and then shot up to UC Berkeley for college UC Brice and now a lot of good actors and and we've had a lot of good actors on this show They all went to good schools whether they went to study acting or not Some of them went for medical school and somehow ended up as actors Stroll trying to figure that one out But but did you study acting in theater at Berkeley or yes? I managed to slip as as I was relating to you guys there was big battles about What I was going to college for your parents were just thrilled about I want to be an actor That's what we want to spend our money on for someone going to college But fortunately, I got a very interesting offer from UC Berkeley Which did not have a strong theater department or film department at the time But I got a scholarship So I kind of won that so I was able to go up there and I double majored with a minor So I covered every base Um, but the the primary one was sort of a stage craft Technical behind-the-scenes towards stage managing lighting sound all of that stuff Theater management behind the scenes all the crafts for actually being in theater Just because I really loved it and then got some practical degree stuff Along with that. Okay. Yeah, so did you go like start right into acting and or did you was there another path? You took that's a very good leading question. No, I I Had a very interesting sort of weird moment when I graduated after years of training and Shakespeare and summer stock and all the good stuff that you're supposed to do leading up to Hopefully getting into career in acting. I kind of chickened out. Yeah. Oh Now now we're right at home Our balloons gonna set off or no, no, no fireworks. I know George can do it all So no, I actually went into the other side of the business first I had a couple of summers during college both as a Disneyland cast member and also as a Assistant production coordinator for a couple of TV movies and That led to me getting an offer to join one of the top three agencies as a sort of a trainee back when that was like a Big prestige, you know get into the mail room dispatch land on a desk and Became a and basically junior agent and then an agent for two seconds representing screenwriters. So that's that was my first career and representing screamers so helping helping them get Their gigs, right? Okay, pitching them developing the scripts with them lot of pitch lot of pitch meetings a lot of that behind the scenes Screenwriting is an amazing art in itself. It's incredible. Yeah, so it's really really incredible and it's really fun, too They have great longevity, you know, they really if they're good So it's really fun to see People who started out like on a TV series now seeing them in feature films having gotten their first big feature That's really very cool. So how did you get into? acting and then voice acting so initially Right as I kind of made it to the agent level. I realized this was at 25. I was a pitcher Way too young to be doing some of the stuff that the pressures, you know What a major agency and I kind of felt like on a gut level I should Since I had all that training And fought for years to get it that I should at least try acting and see How that belt and I really didn't think I would succeed. Honestly, I kind of went into it thinking, okay I'll get it out of my system Go on the audition circuit fail miserably and at least I won't look back when I'm, you know, 50 and go I never gave myself a shot But weirdly enough, it was right at this perfect storm time right when friends had come out In the late 90s and there was suddenly a burst of need for people sort of in their early 20s And it was finally at that turning point where your looks you didn't have to be a drop-dead stunning model Or even, you know, Hollywood's version of average girl, which is drop-dead stunning but with glasses on so I actually was able to book a bunch of sitcoms and Worked with Dick Van Dyke and diagnosed murder a bunch of times as a guest star and even on I was on the last Season of murder. She wrote with Andrew Lansbury, which is a big thrill I couldn't shut up about Sweeney Todd She was thrilled that someone was on the set talking about Sweeney Todd So that was I did about three years of that and then I kind of realized That as much as I it was thrilling and cool and getting to be with all these, you know Acting opposite people. I'd really admired I wasn't really cut out for sitting on a set for 18 hours It's a lot of hurry up and wait so much of that and I Think it was from having come from both you see Berkeley where you're constantly working to get towards your degree out in four years and also then Being on the agent side of things. I just couldn't I wanted to be doing more And it was really hard for me to be told sit in your honey wagon for 14 hours We'll call you and we didn't have home computer, you know, this is this was like late 90s So I probably would be a lot easier these days But back then you just kind of had your flip phone and and not very much else to do other than Flirt with grips eat a lot of craft craft services and glamour magazine So I mean it was it was great experience and I was really grateful that I had this sort of burst of bookings But really glad to and then right around there I was dating someone who was doing a cleanup art for Disney and he knew how passionate it was about Disney parks and Disney animation And I was always imitating the various Disney females from mostly from the classics Wendy and Alice and it was like why don't you go into voiceover and I didn't know It's amazing. But of course back then it wasn't nearly as much in the spotlight nor as talked about it really was a whole separate world and And I really didn't know anything about it other than that I knew that the agency that I'd been an agent at had had a voiceover department strictly for It was separated out it was segregated out celebrities weren't doing it yet and took my first workshop and went This is I can act and not have to worry about my lipstick every time and my hair and It was it was really awesome. I mean that sound brilliant awesome But it it was really liberating the way a lot of people say that it was and So you took a I take it you took a workshop or two to learn to learn the the secrets of the trade I did sue blues awesome animation workshop and Kalman son and Kalman son voice cast or I mean really kind of went on the little circuit That was a really really You know amazing and solid back then there was such so many great people that were teaching those and got really fortunate on some of the people that I took classes with and then Again, I feel like my heart I have tremendous compassion for people breaking into it now because it was a very different time and I feel like and I Don't want this to come out the wrong But I feel like if I had tried to break in now Back, you know what I had back then it would be so much more challenge. I feel like that Well, it's a lot more competition a lot more competition from all over and all different, you know And and it's still I mean there was tremendous tremendous voiceover talent back then though I was just in awe of But at least I was able to kind of get you know signed to a small agency and then work my way up and First few gigs were literally on what we called CD-ROM games CD-ROM games. Remember those. Oh, yeah Having a stack of like seven or eight discs to finish a game put in disc four I didn't play them, but I know I got hired for a couple of them And then my very first kind of really cool gig was voice matching Princess Leia for a bunch of Lucas arts games Oh, cool, great So and then a series called droid works also for Lucas arts. Yeah, so that was kind of the first But it seems like as you've made this transition from from the 90s into the modern era That you're doing an awful lot of different things and we can go over some of each individual things because a lot of people Specialize, you know in promo or in trailers or a very small amount of people But you know a lot of people animation and gaming and things along those lines And that's that's where they stick, but you seem to have You have this tremendous versatility. I mean, how was it that you were able to master all these different things? For example, obviously you started doing commercials and you started that you got a lot of national flight stuff for people like McDonald's, okay, just a small little advertiser How did you get those gigs just your agent was like this is the person that should be doing it or No, actually, I mean I broke Where I kind of really established myself first and took a long time to kind of and thank you for the compliments It's lovely There's so many amazing voice talent that I feel like you're doing a ton also but I got really fortunate the first thing that I really broke in or kind of Got known for was taking in DD from Dexter's laboratory, which actually started out as a voice match it eventually became Moved away from that and became just an established character that I was voicing but initially I was taking over someone who had just done the first couple of episodes of it and From there I had a very difficult time Lowering my energy level to commercial took a lot of training and a lot of great people Constantly saying to me your voice is great the way it is and Me not believing them for a second and feeling like I had to put a whole bunch of icing and sprinkles and do I was doing way too much and not really just talking to somebody and Somewhere thank and God someone finally knocked some sense into me So that I could learn to just talk to the microphone like it was a trusted friend and figure that side out But for years I was really just sort of Pigeon hold into a lot of character a cool dialect animation And some video game stuff and then promos was the next thing that I sort of got really lucky with ESPN God bless them Just kind of picked me out of a bunch of auditions through a New York agent at the time To be the voice of PTI pardon the interruption which blew up into a huge show for them Is still and then from there got pegged to do the draft live the NFL draft and some sports center specials and John Gruden's QB camp and all this really great testosterone stuff Was that an adjustment for you or are you or are you a big sports fan to start with I? Was not Love the Dodgers and grew up with baseball But I would not call me a sports head at all But it was really I mean it was great in that they were looking for a unique the specs at the time I don't know how much like how fun can we get with this? Okay, the specs at the time for this particular voice were She's the gal that the guys want to hang out with drink a beer with watch the game with and Afterwork right that was the voice sound and I read those specs I would literally remember saying to the engineer because I didn't have a home studio at the time I was just transitioning into figuring that out. Oh My god, how do I sound like that? Like what do I do with that with my voice? I don't sound like that and she was like, yeah when you're kind of being sarcastic You know when you're just kind of being yourself and rye you kind of sound like that. I was like, but I'm not sporty enough I'm not sexy enough and thank God. She said just just doc and somehow Layed down the audition for part in the interruption and and I got it and suddenly that became then you started seeing other Specs for a while that literally said we want a gal that sounds like the gal on part in the interruption And then I read on those and maybe not get them so that was fun, but That's that's Hollywood, but it was it was great and that and ESPN is the kind of place where? Fortunately people talk amongst themselves and you can't be passed on to do you know recommended for other things so promos became the next thing and God bless his soul Don Don LaFontaine. There is an actual amazing iconic story about that at Davis Glick where he I was peeping around Watching him because I recognized the voice But again, this is at a time when there wasn't all over the internet yet Yeah, and you didn't necessarily put together faces and names But I heard the voice and I peeked around and the engineer went And I was like Come on in and so I kind of sneak into the booth at Davis Glick this is now DG entertainment, but at the time it was called Davis Glick and And he's doing what he's running through like a series of stuff for I think it's what's an egg Tia TV Turner network and and suddenly Don goes who are you? Look right at me. I'm not sounding at all like him so I'm not trying to match him but big booming, you know, and I like froze and looked at the engineer and The engineer said this is Kat. She was doing some Cartoon Network stuff next door and Don said well, don't stay there come on in here So the next thing I know I'm standing next to him and I'd never seen to picture I'd never seen that happen before and again that we didn't have a lot of behind-the-scenes of Celebrities doing stuff yet. So I didn't even know what that whole thing was and I said, oh, that's cute They've got a tell they've got a TV there I guess I thought it was for his entertainment or something and he says well That's what I'm matching and he explains it They were a rewriting scripts for him at the time So he was killing time and the next thing I know after he ran through a James Bond marathon He said why don't you go ahead and give it a shot to picture and Everybody was humoring him because it's done. He's done. Yeah, so I Did it a few times and and he said don't try to sound like me Do do you do a James Bond marathon the way you would do it and I started doing a sexy British spy voice out of fear And believe it or not one of those ended up becoming they actually kept one of them and I got Don kind of got me my break and I sent him champagne to his agency as a thank you He was he was like a real genie for a lot of people wasn't he George? Yeah. Oh, man It's very generous hearted And I didn't know him well at all. I didn't know when I first met him Exactly the same thing and there was no web presence at that time. This is 2005. I think yeah And so the first time I met him I had no clue who he was Yeah, I was sent there to deal with his buzzing microphone and my friend that sent me Steve Who was an engineer his name is Steve Naphtian. He may have worked with him Yeah, I was in Hawaii. Yes, he is he sent me over there because he was tired of Don calling him He was like can you help him out? I didn't know who I didn't have a clue who he was and sure enough same deal. He went into the booth second. I heard his voice That's who that guy so that's cool. I didn't know you had a story with him, too Everybody has a story with that so great really really fortunate. Yeah, if you're just joining us boy You've missed a lot already our guest is cat Cressida. She does everything voice over and If you've got a question for throw it in the chat room Jack Daniel supposedly in there and he will Forward those questions to us and I'm sure you have many because this is a lady who does a lot of cool different things And I'm sure you have lots of questions about that They're all looking at the IMDb. Yeah, exactly. It's in there so Yeah One of the things that you do and you mentioned it earlier is Celebrity matching and we've had a few other folks on here. John Bailey does a lot of that kind of stuff does a dead-on Christopher Walken it's amazing how he does that, but I mean you How does he do that? and But you you've got a list of people that you've been doing these things for how did you get into doing that type of work? I Mean interestingly enough as I relate earlier I guess I was kind of doing it and I think this is true of a lot of people. I was doing it without knowing it was a thing I So wanted to sound like Wendy and Peter Pan Lovely Catherine Beaumont, and I still wanted to sound like Snow White and Cinderella And so I was doing that all growing up, you know playing with it And when I was a Disney cast member because I was on an attraction where we were required to know all the stories Storybookland we were like on a little mic and running boats. I Really wanted to be on Jungle Cruise, but back then females weren't allowed to do that But I was driving to and from Anaheim every day again against my parents wishes The rogue But I spent a lot of time listening to the narrated stories Which would have little clips of the original talent, but and again, this is this is back with cassette tapes Were were the thing, but I was always imitating them and when I started in voiceover and People were talking about it and there were some amazing women who were already doing it of course trust McNeil and Mary K. Bergen arrest her soul Who I took a class with actually she was wonderful That's when I started to learn that there was an actual craft to it and a science and a need for it and that kind of led to My first gig which was the Princess Leia voice match for Lucas Arts and then DD which was originally a voice match and then shortly after that For I did some Alice in Wonderland for Walt Disney Records as a voice match, which was like a dream come true of Catherine Boma, you know amazing Disney voice iconic and then Jesse the cowgirl Which I've been very blessed to do for a while now whenever Wonderful Joan is not available. So that was kind of the that was the gateway, right? And that and what that is is if say a celebrity is it does a film and they are they're not available to say change a line Exactly, you know the censors say you can't really say that or something like that And they've got it not that there are sensors anymore Shows you you talk about dating yourself The but they need someone to fill in that voice and it's got a match almost perfectly Yeah, and actually more so that's a DR and looping and which is a whole other amazing skill set that some people just That's what they do full-time is is looping of course, but more specifically I was doing it for the video games because they weren't going to be able to afford some of the amazing celebrities that Or for the what they call ancillary products for Disney character voices all the parades and sometimes Attractions and records and toys and those sorts of things. Mm-hmm. Yeah Interesting stuff, which by the way. Yes, just to geek out for those of you, which is different from impersonating I was gonna mention that yes, there's a lot of people that imitate or impersonate impersonate versus voice matching Yeah, and the way I usually describe it is when you impersonate You need a lot of skills. It doesn't have to sound dead on You're not trying to trick the person into thinking that you're that person It's more for humor sake to make a point or to be funny or exaggerated You know certainly Schwarzenegger had a ton of people in Jack Nicholson and as you said Christopher Walken for humor sake Voice matching. It's sort of the opposite. You're supposed to disappear. You shouldn't not be able to detect at all and Therefore a lot of times you get these crazy situations where like it comes up for Angelina Jolie a lot when I've gotten to call back or or final to producers, you know, she doesn't sound that way. She's sexier Well, actually that that is how she sounds. Yeah, but people They're so used to sort of seeing that combined image with her voice. Yeah, of course that Yeah, so oftentimes the voice Doesn't sound anything like how you would picture them to sound therefore would not be a good impersonation So you bring along like a cardboard cutout of Angelina Jolie mask, right? And you do you strap that on and then you do with the big lips and then you do the part, right? But interestingly, I'm I'm thrilled that you said that out loud because one of the first no, no, no Here's how we're gonna flip it make one of the first things I was taught in voice matching was put on the mask Put on the mask of the talent. How do they purse their lips? How did they where does their mouth go? Do they talk out of the side of their mouth if you picture that you're talking through the mask of that actor? It does help the voice match a lot physicality is very very important with any character You know and it's bad if you're matching. I mean, you know, you can't do Nixon without doing I'm not a crook It just doesn't work. You know, I am not a crook. It doesn't sound like Nick's. I've never tried to do Nixon Well, I was just giving Presenting you know metaphor Well done. Well, thank you very much. My chair by the way is slowly. Yeah, we're slowly rotating Feel like take a little bit of grease off the bearings here. Yeah, you look fine. All right. Well I'm gonna be facing them the green All right, cat Cressida is our guest and again if you've got a question throw it in the chat room right now She is just biting at the bit to answer those questions and we'll get to those right after these important messages So stay tuned She has fought for those who don't have a voice the national zoo Sometimes you just need to stroke a llama Instagram download it and start embarrassing your teenagers today resolve spot and stay Because the dogs gonna drag his butt on the carpet. He just is $400 million. 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I mean, it's just an amazing gamut of stuff that you've done I mean, and it's actually pretty impressive. I mean, I I like to think that You know, I came out of radio and I've been able to do a lot of different genres But you do everything except what I do, which is e-learning. Have you done any e-learning? Okay, good Yeah, and you're doing something lovely for people right and you're working We got a couple of questions here from our voluminous audience team man asks, how do you take care of your voice? It sounds so fresh Wow, that's what a lovely compliment. You're really getting it tonight. Everybody's just showing you love I don't think I do anything all that different or special from Sort of the common sense things that you're taught early on which is Don't scream after hours. I lose that battle when I go to Disneyland or Dodger Stadium, but You know a lot of drink a lot of water Have a lot of the soothing things. I did a I did a session about a month and a half ago for a Really cool kids horror movie that's about to come out I don't think I'm allowed yet to say what it was, but I was lucky enough to be in a room full of all the top sort of horror voice people people famous in our world for doing horror voices and And I was one of the few females and we literally spent nine hours straights screaming shrieking Every ghoulish scary sound and we all were passing around all of our like, you know, Asian syrup treats and drops and It was like So did you go home with anything new? Oh, I didn't see that one before There were these great honey drops that I hadn't seen before that I definitely was sucking on for days afterward and I Unfortunately after a session like that I did sound like to me more for about a day and a half, which was cool But quick booker for Where they need a husky voice But it's really it's a great question, but I'm really not doing anything so magical or special other than I I'm very quiet on weekends That's one thing I've learned is to really let it all rest and heal Especially if I've had a lot of video game sessions the week before yeah And how many sessions do you do in a week for video games? Whatever it comes up. Yeah Yeah, I mean it can be very very mellow and just a few little fun things here there Or it could be a week of right after right after that gig then I had something for All these NDAs we have to sign and I'll let say anything out loud, but talk around it I'll talk about a big fantasy game Did a bunch of scary characters for that and then right after that had to do a really cool Oh, I can talk about that the Jack Ryan project just dropped on Alexa skills very exciting Wow We'd spy on that called it's called Jack Ryan Colin November morning. Wow. It's a really cool audio They won't call it a game, but it's like an audio experience where you're playing the game To a sort of an interactive story interactive audio cool thing It's an like it's an it's an Alexa skill. It literally you just do it's an audio choose your own adventure Is that right? I I mean it's it's a Jack It's the first in a series of these Jack Ryan things and it's a spy thriller And you're you're the lead character being trained to be a spy and I'm like the lead Badass spy who's putting you through your paces and there's a lot of sarcasm. I kept saying during the session Do you want me to sound that bitchy? But it was really cool. It's it's kind of like the next wave of entertainment where you can be You know stuck on an airplane and just playing Again, it's not called a game, but it's like a game. It's all audio with sound effects and music and Different characters in your genre. Yeah, it sounds really cool So but yes that that was a week where there was like and I remember saying to my agent Why can't we just spread you know like to spread all this out a little bit, right? Because you know next week will probably be dead and I'll wish that I had Be able to spread this all out But if you're lucky the ups and downs take what it comes right But if you're doing a lot of different stuff and you're qualified for a lot of different stuff You end up doing a lot of different stuff. That's a great question I would just say common sense and if it feels wrong it probably is right and back off of it and I never smoke cigarettes Except for if I've got a voice match where I know that that's gonna be important to the sound Once once or twice a year. I'll sneak a couple of us before something knowing one or two cigarettes isn't gonna change your voice that much It does temporarily though for the it's all up here. It's just the right amount of Right. Oh, some of those matches. George. You have a question. Actually, I wanted to ask one more thing about the voice Did you ever have to learn a new technique to do a character because if you didn't you knew you're gonna destroy Your voice in the process Yeah, that's a great question because I remember hearing the lead singer from Oh, come on Dave Grohl He had to get training to learn how to scream the way he's screaming like his style of screaming He does a lot of singing. He does a lot of screaming And he had to get coaching to learn to do that so he could sustain it night after night Wow, otherwise If you ever had to do that Get coaching to learn a technique Yeah Absolutely. So twice I can think of where it did come up professionally Once was for jesse the cowgirl learning to yodel They had one song in particular where they really wanted me. I didn't have to be a full-on You know yodelers. That's a real skill dropping Up and down within an octave and and having that cool flip sound But I needed to get close enough and I went to a Singing coach for a week to learn how to get closer to that and at least how to keep shifting Between my head voice My chest voice And then another time I called up a Really amazing voice talent male voice talent because I had to do a lot of screaming for a demon thing Yeah And and I knew that there was no way I would make it through the four hours And he taught me something really cool where I gently And I don't know if it works for everybody and I had to keep playing around with it But touching just the right place on the larynx which would relieve the pressure but allow it still to connect and make the sound But I guess the difference is because you're manually pressing you're taking the pressure off of the muscles or something makes sense and Anyway, it it was brilliant because it it got me through I probably looked like I was really esoteric doing this the entire session, but it really helped lift And and he was great in teaching me that and then you know watching things early on watching A couple of sessions in dexter's laboratory There it was like the all stars of voiceover to be thrown into that room with all of those talent Rob Paulson, Jeff Bennett, Frank Welker, Tom Kenny was one of the first things he did Chris Kavanaugh cats who say I hope I'm not forgetting just amazing amazing, you know all stars and watching them do different things pulling at different parts and And then going home and going oh, so that really that kind of oh, I see that that's how you got that or So you you play with your Just play with everything Play with everything. There you go. There you go be the rubber face Um, this is a good question. Yeah, thank you. You had another one about the union Yeah, I mean what was the what was the gig that got you into the union? Was it a kind of thing where you joined first to get the work or did you have it gig that? Transitioned you into the union. Oh, well remember I was I was doing on camera first. Oh, yeah, of course So I think the thing that I got tapped heart lead on was actually when I was I mean, it's not the usual story, but but it's a good way to do it I was the assistant production coordinator one of those tv movies and they suddenly needed a girl For the lead character It was like a a throwaway joke But they needed a girl to literally just land in the guy's arms be landed a kiss on and then thrown away Yeah, that was me. I got to be the girl kissed and thrown away by the Lead hottie. He was the lead on baywatch. He was cute Can't remember his name Billy something Anyway, I got tapped heart lead for that and then so the next time was a Folger's commercial where I was a must-join And that was very traumatic at the time. I was like, what do you mean now? I have to pay This is how much it was back then 680 dollars Oh But this is but that's when you're tapped 20 years We don't have to go down the rat hole too far in the union stuff, but just a couple terminology things What does it mean to be tapped heart lead? First of all, it's a great question. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to get all Some people know what it means. Some people some don't so yeah tapped heart lead is when you're lucky enough to be For whatever reason circumstances line up that they feel that they cannot get another actor Either right then and there, which was the case where I was Or you have some unusual talent skill set or someone's being awesome and having your back and figuring out the paperwork Uh the term comes from a it's I think it's a law. Yeah Yeah, uh, so you're basically Being forgiven so that you can sort of sidestep into the union temporarily to do that one job You're forgiven and you don't have to join But the very next time you ever do a union job. It's now logged and then you're a must-join And that means did I so was tapped heart lead explain well That's exactly how it is and it just kind of sits there in the background kind of like lurking as if you had got a prior something And then the moment that you land your your next legitimate union gig Whether it's sag or aftra, then they'll go ahead and I actually just helped an actor through this process It was cool to be on the phone hearing it all from the union side as well But they will again allow you to do that second job Not yet technically being in the union, but you have to come up with a payment plan Which they now have which is lovely or um or pay up front And then you can do that next job and they give you like it's either five within five days of the booking You have to pay it all off or you can commit to um a payment plan to to then Excellent. Thank you. That's actually one of the most thorough explanations I've heard nicely done. I didn't know about their complimentary No, I didn't know what the must join process. Oh, yeah With the payment plan and all that stuff that's good to know They take they're really on it too. They take it very seriously And if you show up to the job and you haven't dealt with it yet You're not going to be allowed you're going to be sent away Or sent to the back room to figure it out fast. They take it very seriously I imagine they do but very professionally explained Yeah, all right Fred north asks Do you have a prep routine for a commercial's animation voice matching etc different routines for different types of things? Or you just show up give me the script and it happens. No, I wish I were that I I probably do. I don't think of it as a routine, but another really good. These are such good questions We have a brilliant audience. What can I say any audience? Um So if I know, okay, if I know that I've got to lay down Commercial promo narration and animation like if I've got a handful of auditions that I'll have to go I will start with the most low-key one first, which is going to be closest to my natural speaking voice But I will spend some time if I haven't been on the mic yet that day Talking out loud to myself Um asking myself some questions Um drinking some water clearing my throat Sometimes I brush my teeth and Thing just kind of makes me feel like I'm freshening up and getting ready I may be the only person who does that that can actually be good to stop mouth flicks too by the way Yes, that's probably or cause them too and it depends on your mouth. I suppose Um, so that's what I'll do and if if I have to go right into animation not having warmed up at all into something Then um, usually I'll either start repeating back Lines that I've memorized from other things that I like that just kind of get me into the spirit of it Usually other other actors characters not mine. Um being playful Doing a dialect. I really like I'll just sort of warm up everything And then I've got those three warm up exercises that I was taught ages ago for shakespeare musical comedy that I'll also do Out loud which probably we all know but gotta but a but a gotta gotta but a but a gotta Good blood bad blood good blood bad blood good blood bad blood and red leather yellow other red leather yellow Yeah, I love you can never do that one. That's like I that's the one I live I'll do those and that will get me feeling loosened up All right, jack daniel is a question and uh, he usually he's usually here because he's our social medias are But he had to he had to go do a couple of tags or something and he ran home to his studio But now he's with us and he says by the way, I did the toothbrushing thing too before a session. Oh, thank you jack I'm good to know and you met him briefly while you were sitting right there. Yes So what's that question jorge? Uh, you mentioned earlier that you thought you'd have a tougher time breaking in nowadays because of the competition Casting environment changes and etc What do you tell new veos who want to do what you do? We'll leave it on that. No pressure. That's gonna be the last the last word. No pressure. Are we gonna use the joke that we use? run If we're being authentic, absolutely So And this is not meant this is what I if someone says hey, I've got a niece who really wants to break into it I've got a friend who or an actor approaches who's been doing, you know Theater or whatnot or I'm told I have a great voice. I have a great. Well, that's a whole other Um, because I I believe it has nothing to do with the voice. I'm one of those who believe that Because I can't stand my neck. I mean, I listen to myself sometimes. I accidentally hit like replaying my own message. I'm like, oh my Um I think it's more about the acting talent and the intelligence and the heart and soul that you bring to your performance That matters and not what your voice sounds like unless unless you are born with one of those fabulous, you know Gritty awesome texture whiskey voices, but that's a whole other I usually Say to people who say I really want to break into voiceover. The first thing I'll ask them is Why why do why is that a driving? Uh passion of yours. What is what about it? And then I listen and I try to really listen to what they're saying and then depending on the response I yet I will go into the fact that a Especially they have no acting training That that that's key And there are exceptions. There are exceptions to all of this but most people And could just be me most people who ask me this question. I find don't want to really hear Some of the really they don't want to hear it. They just want to go straight to Making yeah making lots of money because that's what voiceover is all about. Yeah, I like that too I would like that too Because as we all can attest anybody out there except for with rare exception, there's a lot more gritty You know the work work behind The bookings then there is just floating through it and Massing wads of cash and again, there are exceptions to every rule But if if the answer is anything other than I really want to bring stories to life. I really love the art of communication I'm really passionate about bringing things to life or Words anything like that I tend to then say well, you may want to try other things first because To do voiceover and to do it consistently and to make a living at it It's going to require a whole bunch of skill sets that you may not even think Or that you may not yet have um And that's that's usually What the person says back to me tells me a lot about what to say back to them after that. Sure. Is that at all help? Absolutely makes total sense. Um, but if you've already passed, you know, checked out all those boxes and you've got a lot of acting training and improv And you've done some singing or some something on radio or and you know what that's about And you're learning you're saying now. What do I do now that I'm there? Then the next response always is Don't listen to anybody Don't take any anybody's guff. Don't take any guff Geez, how old am I? That's about us. That's a that's a 60s word Don't take anybody's crap um, and It doesn't matter if you don't have the right sound or you're not the sound that's in vogue now or you don't Necessarily sound like x y or z if you love it and you've checked off those boxes and you've got some training Just keep keep going for it because I do think the wheel comes around for people who stay Persistent at it and keep working at it and it's some some people it happens right away And then nothing for ages some people Nothing for ages and then boom It happens all differently for different people and if you really love it in your passion about communication I think that you will find your way through it Just on a side note. I mean just thinking about some of the Rock stars who were really huge when I first was coming up into it and I was with ICM at the time So there were some amazing people Really huge people but their sound was so not what today's sound is um, and You have to also keep learning how to evolve with the new trends and the new sounds and Paying attention to what's going on. Well cap. Thank you so much for being with us. It goes by so fast, doesn't it? I'm I'm good. You guys are amazing. We try you guys were awesome. Nice to see you. Thanks for coming down Thank you, sir. Can't dress it up. 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That's voice over x t r a dot com Alrighty as we fade into reality here On voiceover body shop um Thanks again to cat reciter for joining us tonight great information and fun talking to her um Next week on this very show a good friend of ours Eat an englishman in new york peter bishop Who is currently the only president of world voices? Hey, congratulations. Yes, uh He'll be here next uh next monday night on ten eight melissa moats. We say here Is he going to be physically? No, he'll be in new york. He's going to be in new york Okay, well i'm in on zoom then. Yeah, we'll have him. He got but he just has such a wonderful voice In such an attitude and a heck of a brain and a smart guy came out of corporate management to be in voiceover And you know, so that's why he's good at what he does. Um, melissa moats will be here on the eighth Awesome, uh, she'll be joining us from las vegas on the 15th adam verner will be joining us Right on cool guy And then people i know on november 5th Even though it's a little bit ahead a little bit after halloween and after the right right before the elections um We have a live concert right here in my backyard here at the voiceover body shop with soli kanto our good friends rosy and uh Amador and their daughter have a wonderful Latin band we're going to do a live backyard concert here Cal we're going to broadcast. I might have to get here more than two hours early. Yes Well, it's only it's like three pieces to set up three mics and a sound system sounds awesome I'm excited about a great time with that. Very cool. Uh, let's see here. Um Again, if you need help with your home voiceover studio, you can talk to george at george the tech dot com And you can find dan over at home voiceover studio dot com. There we are it's it's in there somewhere We swear to god, we know exactly where you go. We are professional. That's right. Alrighty And let's see what else here. We're live here every monday night almost every monday night except the prior two monday nights Uh, if you'd like to be here in our audience all you have to do is write to us If you happen to be in the greater los angeles area like john flood was tonight hit their audience camp So you have john flood can be seen here It's it's kaput Wow Just one of those nights at least you're watching which is which is more than I can say for some other things. Um Yeah With jack's pack pack is i need to plug something. Okay. Go for it. I'm doing a uh voice over for Well, actually an audiobook narrating a workshop for folks that have to self produce ACX type projects for john florian over at voiceover extra. That's right for john. So that's gonna be uh It's a tuesday and a thursday. I think the 25th and the 27th of september So you still have some time to get in on that and you can sign up over at voiceover extra Dot com it's all about part one's all about recording and editing Part two is more about the mastering side of it, which is and you can take one or the other or both Take both, you know, so it it'll save you a lot of time the whole point of this Is to get you where you need to go much more quickly don't Don't just do it by googling. This is going to get you down the road You gotta hear it to understand or maybe you'll do this thing and go you'll you'll watch this and you'll go I'd never mind. I'm not gonna do audiobooks forget anybody else do that kind of stuff So go check that out and i'm also have a podcast we you guys know you've listened The pro audio suite podcast we really geek out and we interview engineers and producers and stuff In the world of audio not just voiceover. All right The show logs if you want to hear every word that was said or at least find what was said Jack de golly is out there writing every word down that we say and he will present that with the show notes when we post the show Later today or early tomorrow morning. Usually I'm usually still in my pajamas when I make sure it gets posted And uh, if you want to join us here live in the studio like john flood was supposed to be able to wave and say hello All you have to do is write to us at the guys at v obs dot tv tell us what week you want to be here And write in the subject line audience and then i'll know what you're talking about Uh, show us your booths Whose booth was this this one? I'm very proud of this one is allison packard studio Which I designed and had you know, we had built about two years ago or so and it's a really neat space Well, you can't see off camera in this corner. There's a loft So she can hang out out there and chill When she's not recording was just the one that was built on the pad and uh, yes, it's basically a tiny house That we that's the studio. Yeah, so that one's really cool. Alrighty And let's see here. We need to thank our sponsors, of course like harlan hogan's voiceover essentials and voiceover extra Uh Source elements view to go go Voice actor websites.com and j michael collins demos. Thank you everybody. Yeah Well, we also need to thank of course the dan and marcy lennard foundation for the betterment of live webcasting Our great producer gets his great guests like Cat resident kathryn currant. Thank kathryn. She's on a bike trip somewhere. Awesome. And she's still doing her job Uh, jack daniel on chatroom duty, even though it would be remotely and of course his help on youtube I'm getting that working for us really. Well our technical director who is working very hard a trooper as always As always super lino Jack de golly for the show notes and of course lee pinney for just being lee pinney Anyway, that's gonna do it for us this week, you know, not an easy business But you hear from the people that are successful and what they go through Hopefully that will inspire you and of course if you need help with your home studio, that's what we're here for that's what the show is about because If it sounds right It is right. All right. Close enough. Yeah, whatever. Okay. That's gonna do it for us this week We'll see you next monday night with peter bishop I'm dan lennard and i'm george widdum and this is voiceover body shot or vo b s Have a great week everybody. Bye now