 So how he uses is when he has his leg on this side, it seems like it's my clean leg. The shortest distance to him is his knee to my foot. Because I can't reach him with my hand if I stand here. But if I just lift my leg, I can reach him. So that's why the time is good for a longer distance. So before I can reach him, before you can reach me, I can actually reach him with just the leg here on his knee.