 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump, mind pump, with your hosts. Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. So today, right, we start off and we get into questions. And Sal, once he gets to the third rail question that we answered today, and he dishes off the answer right away. I'm looking over at Justin, like, I ain't starting on this. I'm like, oh, where do we go with this? Thanks for that awkward ball you just threw. So in this episode of Mind Pump, for the first 44 minutes, we do our intro, current events, conversation. First off, we talk about Led Zeppelin, the greatest rock band of all time, Adam, and bands that have changed the music game. We talk about my carnivore diet after bath. Yeah. Whoops. Your carnivore explosion. It was a greasy blowout. We talk about Trump's food box and the welfare third rail. That's what Adam was referring to. We offend some people. Maybe we answer some questions. Find out. 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I'm not a big Zeppelin fan, do you to be honest with you? I mean that being said, I like Led Zeppelin. Edit that out Doug, we don't want anybody to know that. No, no, I mean, it's just a big grief. If I'm being honest, they're after our time. So it's not a band that, before our time. Yeah, but as I say after sorry, before our time. So it's not a band that I grew up on. So I didn't grow up on listening to them. It's more my dad's generation. Now as I got into classic rock, I absolutely listened. I owned the Led Zeppelin CDs for sure, but I wasn't listening to Led Zeppelin on ATrack and I wasn't listening to Led Zeppelin on cassette. So I can't claim to be like a huge fan. I listened to Zeppelin in high school all the time. Yeah, so I listened to more. That was my first introduction to Metallica and ACDC. I listened to more than anything else. Well, ACDC goes back quite a bit. I mean, they also played stuff that was closer to her. They also still tour. I mean, I've seen ACDC twice, you know what I'm saying? So they're a band that I've seen. And I like ACDC and I like Metallica better than I like Led Zeppelin. Wow. And a lot of people- I mean, those are both great bands. Don't get me wrong. I put them all in kind of equal status. But you can't. Zeppelin Zeppelin. It's just different. Zeppelin is just such a pioneer. They're so iconic. Bro, if you listen to just all Led Zeppelin songs, you'll be listening for hours and you'll continuously listen to music that is massive, that is just, you know what I mean? Like the Beatles, like hit after hit. I feel like Led Zeppelin, like Rage Against the Machine is our generation's Led Zeppelin. That's how I feel. When you think of the level of intelligence behind the writing of what they are putting out, how groundbreaking and different the music they were putting out, I think that- I mean, my personal opinion, you know, I love Rage Against the Machine, but Rage never reached the level of, I mean, Zeppelin changed the culture period. You know what I mean? Like they changed, like if you looked up top 10 rock and roll bands of all time or rock bands or- Well, yeah, Jimmy Page is one of the greatest guitarists of all time. And it's just, what I think is like they had a different train of thought when they started writing the music. It didn't sound like anything else that was out there. That's the thing. It's hard to hear it afterward, because you know what I started doing when I was in, so when I was in high school- He was playing the mandolin. Bro, what? When I was in high school, I started listening to, because I never really connected to the music of our generation, except for like Rage Against the Machine and Metallica, a couple of things. Most of the popular music that was on the radio, I didn't connect to, like I'd play and it'd be like, this is all- Well, we grew up in the generation of pop that didn't exist before us. Like pop didn't really exist before. Dude, pop wasn't like it was. It'd be- MTV changed everything. Yeah, MTV in the early 80s completely changed music and how we listen to music. Do you know how many artists wouldn't even have become famous if it wasn't for MTV? Like I'm gonna piss off some people, I guarantee it, but in this individual is extremely talented. Don't get me wrong. But there's no way in hell Madonna would have done anything. No. Even remotely as successful as she did if it wasn't for MTV. Oh, wow, you are gonna piss me off, because I don't know. That's a tough one right there. Because she's got- Who was first? Was it her or Cindy Lopper? Because- Cindy Lopper's another one. Like these are- She was- Yeah, I- These are artists that when MTV came out- Yeah, but what Madonna did first, bro, was pretty, I don't know- Oh yeah, no, no doubt. That's a- No doubt groundbreaking. It's because of the visual though. She had like all of that together to where like, when she'd tour and stuff, it was like all the girls were dressing like her. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. I'm not arguing that it she, it was not a fashion thing too. Accelerated because of MTV for sure. It was- She was, she brought on that, that first like visual. Yeah. You know, like no one cared, no one cared what- She had that sexy, you know. Led Zeppelin did on stage. Well, no one's talking about that. You gotta, you know, a lot about success, you have to have talent, but then timing, right? So think about it this way. Would Joe Rogan be as big as he is if he did, if this was the 50s and he could only get on radio? Probably not. It was podcasting that he was perfect for. Yeah. Madonna- The censorship back then was everything. That's right. Madonna and a lot of these artists got big because they existed in an era where, you know, MTV made the visual as important as the audio. Before that, the visual wasn't nearly as important at all. It didn't matter at all. Not at all. Like the Ramones. Let me put it this way. The Ramones have gotten famous in the MTV era. No way. It's like three ugly fucking dudes, like they have no appeal in that sense, but their music was kind of different there. So it's very, very different. But when I listened to classic rock or old music, older music, I like to try to place myself like in that era, like listening to it for the first time. For example, Jimi Hendrix. Jimi Hendrix, if you listen to Hendrix today, if I show a kid today, they're gonna be like, wow, this is really good music. But it's even more than that because when Hendrix was doing shit with the guitar that he was doing, nobody done that before. Could you imagine hearing that shit for the first time? Yeah, but you also sound like an old barnacle who always references old classical stuff. Like we evolve in everything. We always talk about how fitness has evolved and the evolution of all these things and how we compound things that we've learned from before. And so, you know, when you guys get so- Barnacle. You sell it. So you guys- We're teaching the kids history. Well, it's gonna be history 20 years from now too. Don't get me wrong. I think that there's a lot to get from that. And I like classic rock too, but I also listen to a lot of music today. Like I think there's a lot to take from that too. And I think what happens to a lot of people is they get older because you don't have the same passion for music as you have when you're a kid. When you're a kid, at least I don't know you guys, but I was heavy into music and I watched MTV every single day. I was downloading. I knew what every band that I liked that I listened to, I knew when their next album released and what it was gonna be like and the teaser that got released before. And I would be the first one to listen to it and critique it with my buddies. Like I just don't have that same kind of time that I applied to music today, but there's a lot of great music that still is made today. And I think that when we always reference back to these old things, we look when sound fucking like a bunch of old guys- No, what I think- That don't pay attention to what's going on today. No, I think what happens is the past is always romanticized because you have a different, you've got a broader context, you have hindsight. So 20 years from now, there's gonna be music that's made today that people can look back and they can see really the impact that it's had. You know what I'm saying? Well, I think, I think too, why we're talking about Led Zeppelin is because that was like a period in time where like music changed, right? So like they did something completely different to shake up the entire music industry. And there's been moments like that where I was just watching the history of hip hop and you know, how like the evolution of like how they started with the turntables and they took beats, like they take one beat from this funk song and then they'd loop it. And so they loop it and then they created this dance party and this dance party were like, they figured out that like when it would hit the hardest on that one beat, they could keep that beat going and everybody was like stoked. And so then they went from there to then learning, you know, how to scratch and then it like progressed into this, what we hear today and then somebody wrapped on top of it. But like this has happened. So I'm always looking for that next kind of new sound. Yeah. And I'm looking for, I know EDM sort of like made that and then like, you know, like you hear some rap change but I haven't really heard a lot of evolution in the rock front in a long time. I think there's gonna come back. They're regressing. I think it's gonna come back. I think it'll, because we went electronic really hard and I think it's gonna come back. You know what rock is doing really big different right now, there's a lot of collaboration between rock and country right now. Oh really? Yes. Which is a lot of, there's a lot of pushback on that. So if you're like a purist with country music, you fucking hate that new type of music. But if you look at, there's a group or a genre of... What do they call it? Are they calling it anything? Yeah, there's a name for it. I don't know. Rock country? I mean, that's what it is, right? It's, you have rock stars that are singing country or country singers that are singing rock and then kind of the mesh of the two of them real similar to how we saw rock and rap kind of collab. So you see a lot of collabs happening right now We saw a big change when we were kids. I mean, Nirvana is one of those bands. Nirvana was... They busted through and put it out there. Just changed everything and introduced the whole genre. Again, what we sound like as a bunch of old guys because we talk about what we know because we were a part of it. What you don't realize is it reminds me when I get in arguments with friends that don't really understand sports the same way that I do because I've been watching sports religiously since I was a kid. It's like arguing LeBron James and Michael Jordan. It's like Michael Jordan revolutionized the game of basketball. And even though LeBron James is more of a physical specimen if you put him both on the court LeBron James would gobble up Michael Jordan, gobble him up because he's that much better than he is. But if it wasn't for Michael, LeBron may have never existed because that guy changed it. Which is how you could argue Led Zepple and things like that. Guys today, but there's people today that are doing unbelievable. Of course they're, we're not unbelievable things. I'm not discounting that. I just haven't seen like, I'm not in the loop obviously. That's all I'm trying to say is that we're not in the fucking loop. One thing I have seen though like, and I know it hasn't taken off, but I really enjoyed it. They call it kind of like two-step in like hardcore, which is like, you know, within the metal genre, there's like been a lot of different directions with that. There's like a real jazz focused kind of like metal, which is really hard to listen to, but it's so technical. It's like very impressive to watch. But yeah, this two-step it's like, it reminds me of you guys ever listened to Rockabilly or any of that. So imagine that like combined with a heavier beat and a heavier like raw like singing on top of it. Like every time I die, I think was one of the bands I listened to that kind of was starting that direction. But yeah, like I'm looking more, of course like I'm more prone to rock, but I'm totally open to like hip hop. I think it's funny when people hate on certain things because I don't know, I just have such a different outlook on life. Like not just music, I mean sports, everything. I had this debate the other day with somebody about the whole Tom Brady thing and hoping they lose because they cheated and all kinds of shit. It's like, dude, I love seeing greatness. I love hearing, like I love all genres of music too. Like I can sit down and listen to something that is not like my typical song that I would play inside my car or maybe the stuff that I typically gravitate towards because somebody is fucking ridiculously talented. Like it could be something so out of my, yeah, so out of my genre, but that I'm like, man, that guy or girl is fucking, here's the thing. When you think of music or movies or sports of the past, the reason why there's a difference between how they're perceived versus now, I think has less to do with not being plugged in to the current culture and more to do with, you have time to see what the real impact is. So while Jordan was playing during that period, everybody was like, wow, this is one of the best players of all time, but you fast forward 20 or 30 years and now you can see the impact that he had on the game and then you can really look and appreciate how great of a player was. And that's the same thing with music. When you look back, when Zeppelin was playing in the 70s, people all loved Zeppelin. They were very popular, they were the most popular band at that time. So knowing that, don't you think it's naive of us to think that's not happening at this very moment? I don't think anybody's thinking that that's not happening now. Yeah, no, of course, not at all. I just, it's different. Well, you are what you make statements like the music's crap today. Like when you say things like that, what you've said before. Oh, that's just my own, no, that's just my own personal preference of liking music, but do I think music today is going to impact music of the future? Of course, it's all part of the process, but that's my own personal preference. You know what I think is fucking rad in what has completely changed the game and it's not a single person or type of music, it's the ability for a person on YouTube to become famous and he like, that Saaj, what's her name? I remember that girl you introduced in the two that was like a one man band. Right, she's from like Australia or something, right? And she went viral on YouTube and that's how I found her. I got to watch her live and stand like five feet from her and what this girl is fucking. She's so talented. Oh dude, so unbelievably talented. I mean, you want to, and she's changing the game. This wasn't, okay, you want to talk about somebody? Then now there's some people that can do this. She, in my opinion, that she's the most talented person I've seen in person do this. She's a one man band or one woman band. I'm a one woman man, I guess. And she's playing like six different instruments that she puts all in a loop to make one sound and it's, she just layers it like an onion. It's so dope. It's so sick and that's something that couldn't be done 15 years ago that we're watching happen right now that's going to change how music's done for the next day. And then there's also this. So YouTube has also done this and I was at my daughter's dance, right, this weekend and they played this song and all the kids went fucking crazy. And if it wasn't for YouTube, there's no way in hell this piece of shit would ever get half a billion listens or views on YouTube. Let's see if you guys know what this is. I doubt you know what it is, Adam, because you don't have kids. You might've heard it, Justin. I know Doug's heard this. Let's see if you recognize this. Oh my God, yeah. I feel like I've heard this. So this is a fucking video with a guy singing about a pen and a pineapple. Pineapple pen. Yes. His combined views on his videos are half a billion. Every fucking kid knows him. It's like the guacamole lady. Yeah, well, it's ridiculous, but it's a song and everybody's- See from here is he from somewhere like China. Korea. Okay. From Japan. Okay, so he's from Japan. So, okay, first of all, I bet you a majority of that was, most of the people that viewed it are from Japan first and now you've got America. Massive, massive in America. It's like the one guy who did the, what's it called? The fucking- Oh, the, what does it- Yes. Foxy. What? No, no, no, the guy- That's another one, right? That's another one. That's another one. The first one to really- The first really, the first like- You talking about the black dude with the keyboard? Where he's like, he's got the really low voice. No, he's not a black guy. He's like a Gangnam style. Yes, gangnam style. Thank you, Doug. Gangnam style. Yeah, that was something that went viral over there first and it made its way over here and that it's just- So this is all- It's trying to recreate that too. Like it's interesting because like it's such a massive case. So when you read the book Hit Makers, they break this fucking down and it's been happening. They have that song in that book? No, they don't but they break down the formula of why that goes viral and they break it down all the way back to music in the 20s. That people, now people maybe didn't understand the science of it back then and they were just kind of figuring it out but we now, and that's another thing that's different about now than then, is we understand the science of it. Yeah, this is formula. You made a point, Justin, right now that we understand now. We understand that we could put a beat. We could put this beat and this beat together and that causes something to happen in people's bodies, physically, does something. So when kids hear that, it is doing something. That's the reason why it went viral. It didn't go viral because it's shitty. It went viral because somebody actually- Oh, no, no, it went viral. Put a very, a very brilliant formula in the actual notes and then they recreated people build off of other people's discoveries. But it went viral and it is shitty. That's all I meant. Not because it is, because it is clearly- Again, that's what we think, but obviously half a billion people disagree with you. Oh, it's- Yeah, I don't know. I feel like at least half of those people are listening to it because it's ridiculous. But it's interesting, like so, when I was referencing going back and regressing, so you see bands like the White Stripes and you see bands like the Black Keys and people like that that have emerged because it's like, we've heard the evolution of where you can go electronically almost, to where let's get back to really raw sound, like sounds that's not overly produced. Like rocks and sticks? Yeah, honestly, people are going in that direction. There will always be a counter, right? So I think that as time evolves, there's gonna be people like ourselves that don't evolve on all the music and get stuck to what we really like and what we recognize and what's comfortable to us and there's smart people that know that and will create that because let's be honest, the probably the best buying generation is the 35 to 45 mix, that's when you make good money, but you haven't evolved your ear to listening because you don't give a shit about that type of stuff anymore. You still like your old stuff, so if I'm a smart band, I might create a sound that reminds you of your fucking childhood. You appreciate. If I was any good, I would start a band that did old school rockabilly slash rock and roll, like that era where it was just like, I don't know, I have this like sentimental feeling. I saw your picture when you were in there. Not that many people are into it anymore, so it's like, you know, it's not popular. I don't know if it'll ever happen. I absolutely love music. I love all music. There's not a lot of music that I don't like. I think it's really, I think everybody, there's a very, very talented person to get something from in almost every genre and I can sit down and listen to it. Music's just interesting the way it affects the brain. If it really lights up the entire brain, it's universal across all cultures and it's been with humans for as long as we have records. And I think now. It's very interesting. I think now we understand that more than we ever have. So you talk about the generation now, compared to our generation, who was just kind of rocking to new revolutionary music that we don't know why, the audience now is. I just wait till AI can fucking figure out the right combination of notes that gets people excited and all music will be produced by this guarantee. We're close. I feel like we're close. Playing the brown note. Yeah. Shit. Did you ever hear about that? No, what is that? Oh, it's this bass. I don't know if this is a hypothetical thing. What's it called? We call it the brown note. It's like, it gets low enough in the. It shakes your bowels. In the bass where it's supposedly causes some people to shit their pants. Speaking of which, so I fucking pushed it way too hard. Yeah, what? Pushed the fast or pushed what you ate? No, dude, so I did my fast and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna play this carnivore diet thing and see what happens. So I had no plant products whatsoever yesterday, but I pushed the food intake and the meat. Oh dude, I had a pound of ground beef and egg yolks. I had a fucking ribeye the size of my head. I had, you know, drank a bunch of beef, you know, bone broth and did a bunch of stuff. And just last night, dude, I don't know what time it was, 1 a.m. I wake up like out of my, you ever get waking up out of your sleep because you almost shit yourself? Oh. Is that ever happening? So you wake up and you're like, oh, ah. And I'm like, oh, oh, wait a minute. And I'm like, maybe. Bro, if you ever have to take a shit in the middle of the night, that's bad. I feel like that's, that's like not a good thing. That's never a good thing. Like if you get in the middle of the night and take a shit, anytime that's happened to me, it was like I was doing some bad eating, dude, for sure. There's never a good shit when you're woken up with it. So I wake up and I do one of those like, okay, maybe I can. That reminds me of the story. Maybe I can let out the gas, you know what I'm saying? Maybe I can just let off a little pressure because I don't want to get up because I'm fucking sleepy. And nope, that was a mistake. So, straight to the toilet. Is that like a sharp mistake? No, I caught it. I caught it before that happened. I'm pretty fast. And it was, it was all bad. It was all bad. So this morning I'm going to go very easy and see what happens. But if it continues on today, I'm going to have to end my carnivore diet experiment. No, not to gross everybody out, but I am wondering like, because my concern of eating like that super high meat and no backup is yeah, the no lack of fiber. So did you, did you feel constipated also too? Or did it go out pretty fine? No, no, it's actually the opposite of constipation. What was your experience? I think I had, you know what I think I had? I actually think I might've pushed the fat intake too high. And that's what might've caused it. Because then for dinner I had this, bro I had this ribeye that was this big. And then I had like sausage with it. And then I'm drinking this bone broth that when I put the bone broth in the fridge because I had it in the fridge all the time. Got it after a fast two. What are you thinking? I wasn't, obviously. I wasn't thinking, I was so mad at myself. Perfect slide. I was supposed to work out this morning and I was tired because I was shitting for 45 minutes in the middle of the night, so. Oh my God, this reminds me. Write out the butt tube. Your son. That's what my son calls it. Like we're at dinner and he's just like, he's like, Dad, I gotta poop out my butt tube. That almost fucking fell out of my chair, dude. I was dying. I was like, that's so accurate. How proud of your kid are you? Oh my God. When he comes up with shit like that. I'm like, that is so hilarious, please keep using that term. Are you guys ready for some current events? Let's do it. It's current events time. All right, so there's a big hubbub going on right now. I'm gonna use old words, by the way. You said hoodwinked. Hoodwinked, that's what I opened up. I said hubbub. So President Trump wants to replace food stamps with food boxes. So. What? So instead of food stamps, what people are going to get now in the mail is a box of made in America food that includes non-perishable items. So it'll be like non-perishable milk, you know, peanut butter, orange juice, probably government cheese or whatever, instead of food stamps. And this is supposed to save $129 billion over the next 10 years. And people are pissed, of course, pissed off, right? Because, you know, when you have a food stamp, you have more flexibility of what you're going to buy. Oh, and dollar store sales, excuse me, dollar store stocks plummeted after this news because so many people use food stamps at the dollar store. So what do you guys think about that? Do you think it's a smart, because he is going to save money? You're a third-rail dancer, aren't you? I know, I love it. He's a third-rail dancer, dancing for money. It's all in the news right now. So what do you guys think? Do you guys think that that's a, because I know what my opinion is on this, but he's trying to save money and he's trying to do the whole American-made thing, eliminate food stamps, replace it with a box of food at your door. There's arguments on both sides. What do you guys think? Well, I don't think you get to do that. I don't think you get to bring it up like that and then dish it off. So one of us could get to... Oh, you want my opinion first? Yeah. That's like... Oh, I'll tell you what. That's a loaded complex. I'm not a good person to ask about welfare-type stuff, dude. It's like, whatever we say is going to piss somebody off. Well, I can tell you what my opinion is on the whole thing. I think I know what he's trying to do. He's trying to... So he cut taxes, he's trying to cut spending now. He's trying to bring back a lot of money to the budget. He's trying to cut, which they need to cut spending. That's the bottom line, although I think that's not the smartest way to cut spending. My personal opinion, if you really want to save money, and I know why he wouldn't do this, because it would piss off his base of conservatives, which is hypocritical because it would save more money than anything he's saying is the problem with food stamps is when you give people food stamps, you're limiting their options with money to food. What they could do with it. When you give people a box of food, you're limiting it even further. If you really want to save money on welfare, what you need to do is look at the cost of administering all this welfare services, and I'm talking about all of it, like count all of it. There's childcare services, there's food stamps services, there's services that... Just all these different types of services that are under welfare cost a lot of money, and part of the expense is the bureaucracy that we employ to manage it, distribute it, and to put it all together, which I think is a big fucking waste of money, is the bureaucracy. If we want to give people money, give them money, send them a check, figure out what all that welfare costs, figure that out, cut the cost of bureaucracy, and give a check to people and tell them, because it's their responsibility at the end of the day, the burden of responsibility is on them, and are some people going to buy alcohol and drugs and cigarettes and stupid shit? Yes. But I think some people are also going to take that cash and invest it in education, childcare, transportation. Well, that's what you hope, and then you're treating them like a human being. That has decision making. Go ahead, Adam. I disagree. I don't think that would happen at all. I think that most, and here I'm going to offend some people for sure, but before I offend everybody, let me back up first and tell people that I've lived off of welfare and food stamps when I was a kid, right? So we've been through that. But I'm not a fan of how our whole welfare system is set up, period. I think it promotes bad habits. I think it promotes people milking the system. I think it promotes people manipulating the system. And I think a majority, not all, but a majority of the people that use it take advantage of it. And I think that really hurts us as a collective, like all people that have to help provide taxes and pay for it. So I'm not a fan of it at all. Now, this is my personal experience because what I've seen around me, and this isn't just picking on my personal family. I know a lot of people that, you know, here's the attitude they have, and I remember this conversation when I was a teenager with my mother and she was collecting welfare between jobs. And I remember thinking, Mom, you are smart enough that you could walk into like a Starbucks and I know that they would give you a job and you could easily work up to be in management within a year. And yeah, it's not great money. And yeah, this and that, but it's better than nothing, right? And her logic behind not going to get a job was that the difference in money that she would make by going to work is so small that it doesn't make sense for her to go do that. So she would refuse to do that. Now, that being said. Which is logic. Right. That's logical, right? And so let's fast forward to some other things that I learned growing up as I got older. You know, my mom never got out of these bad habits because what happens with most people is it doesn't matter how much money they have. It's the habits that they've created. They don't know how to manage money correctly. So them making $20,000 in food and food stamps a year versus them all of a sudden getting a job for $75,000, you'll be surprised that same person will be living paycheck to paycheck because they have poor habits. And I recognize this a lot too when I would provide money from my mom. I'd be like, you know, I'd say, hey, mom, here's $500, you know, I know you need groceries, you need things like that. And then I remember coming back in my mid-20s, I'd come back to see her in town and she was out at the water park with my kid, my brothers and sisters and the kids' neighbors and the neighbor kids. And I'm like, wait a second, just like a month ago, you had to borrow $500 from me and now you're going to the water park with the fucking neighbor kids. Like, yeah, I know that's only a few hundred bucks and you want to give your kids and I get it. I get what you want, but you don't have that luxury. You shouldn't do that. Those type of people tend to make those fucking decisions. At least every person I've ever met, that's been that. Now I know there's somebody listening right now that probably goes, hey, that really helped me. It got me from here to my next job and it saved my family budget. So I'm sure there's a percentage of people out there. But I also believe those percentage of people probably have somebody like me or someone else in their life that would lend them a hand to help them get them up. And we're better off as humans, I think, using each other like that. So here's the same way, I don't know, kind of I look at charities, like for me, it's always like, okay, I contribute to the charities that are more prone to helping initially and getting provisions and housing or things like that to promote independence going forward and presentations of jobs and opportunities. So it all leads to opportunity. So it's like this, as far as welfare is concerned, it's the same thing. Like we want it to lead into then transitioning. So we're not staying there in that position, especially if you're an able bodied person. So here's the deal. I'm not disagreeing with a lot of what you're saying, Adam. But here's the reality. The reality is we have a large percentage of the population now that has been, that relies on and has been conditioned to be on these programs and systems. And if we just take it away, what will end up happening is major, major civil unrest and lots of problems. So with what I'm saying is I don't, I think here's the two things we need to look at. You think that this is a step in that direction. So that's what I'm trying to say. So, so I agree with that. Yeah. Well, if that's your point that you're making with this, I agree. Because in my opinion, it's got to fucking go at one point. Because in my opinion, it's a fucking crutch. It's a crutch. And think of yourself right now, forget the fact that maybe nobody in this room has actually collected food stamps himself other than myself as a child. Like as an adult, you've never done that. I know damn well about myself every day, even though I try, I say, I give it a hundred percent, there's more inside of me. Because I tell you what, if I, if I lost everything and I was on the street, you would see a whole nother version of me that because the survival mode and we all have that animal instinct in us. I believe we all have that primal ability of if you were going to fucking die and starve, you would figure something out. Well, here's if you, if you have, if you have something to catch you and we've, and we have, we've made it so easy for people to do that. Like I watched my mom teach it to my sister and now I see my sister going down the same path that she teaches it to her. It's fucking insane. Oh no, it's, it's, it's, it's an epidemic. I mean, people get angry when they hear that, but that is a reality. There are, they are insane over it. I know I won't listen. It's a reality. It does create an incentive to not work. It does create an incentive for people to not become more independent and it places the burden on other people. Because the reality of the truth is the truth, the only burden that someone has is to take care of themselves. That's the fact. Now it's ideal in a society that people volunteer to help each other out. That's ideal, but the reality is that the burden is on the individual to take care of themselves. Now we do have a system where it's, we have massive amounts of people that are reliant upon the system. Generally, generationally have been on the system and you can't just take it away because you would, you would say cutting off your nose despite your face, it would, it would cause way more problems that it would solve. So my, what I, what I'm saying is number one, let's look at the ultimate goal way down the line. The ultimate goal down the line is an entirely voluntary society, a society where people are not forced to do anything. That means includes not pay taxes. Everything's voluntary. People help themselves and help each other if they want to, and there's plenty of opportunities. But to get there, we have to go from where right now to get there. And I think the next step is not what Trump is saying, which is a box of food instead of fucking food stamps because I think that's a stupid idea. I think cut the bureaucracy because then you save money on top of it. You can say to your conservatives, because if I was a politician, I'd fucking, I would sell this so well. I'd easily say, look, hey. I'd love to see it privatized. I would love to see, I don't know, I have no problem. That's called charity. Exactly. I have no problem giving that money, but I want to know where it's going. Let's say at the end of the year that I end up paying a total of $20,000 worth of taxes that will go to charitable things like welfare. Let's say that. I have no problem still paying that same amount, but then just give me the option to be able to say, I want $10,000 to go here. I want $2,000 to go here. $1,000 to go here. And let all these different charities compete to come to people like us and explain what they're doing, the movement. And let us pick that. They would never do that because it's so. I know. Because then it would fuck government. I understand that. People don't realize this. The amount of money that the government collects to give out, quote, unquote, to welfare recipients, a large percentage of that goes to government. Oh yeah, 100%. So it's like they're taking the money, they're keeping a lot of it, and then they're administering a little bit out to people in a very inefficient way. So like I was saying, if I was a politician, I'd sell it to the conservatives by saying, hey, I'm saving X amount of hundreds of billions of dollars by shrinking government, which is what you want, cutting out bureaucracy. And then you liberals over here who love, you know, giving people a bunch of stuff for free, I'm going to give them cash. Now they can spend it however they want, and they've got all that freedom. And now we've kind of made both people happy. And then what you do is you slowly eliminate the barriers to enter the market, which there are lots of barriers, by the way, lots of barriers for people who have low skills, maybe have a prison sentence or two, or who don't have a lot of, you know, job experience. There's a lot of barriers, one of which is a minimum wage. You make a minimum wage $15. Oh yeah. Anybody who has no skills or that just makes them unemployable makes it worse. It makes it. Imagine if you imagine if we didn't have a minimum wage and then all of a sudden you and you didn't have and I know you couldn't do that overnight. You're right. I agree with you. But imagine that like that. I think you could eliminate. I could find a job. I could find a job here that's so basic and simple that we don't, you know, we don't really pay it. But if I could pay someone four or five dollars an hour and they didn't have any money or a job, why not? If they agree to it and I agree to it. If they hear more experience, they can start charging more. Right. Right. It has to start somewhere. Why the fuck not? Milton Friedman talks about this. He calls it a negative income tax, where some people pay taxes and then as you, if you're other people actually collect money and then they can use that money to spend themselves, which eliminates bureaucracy, gives people freedom to become independent. And then the choice is up to them. The choice then becomes up to them. Well, that's what I like. I don't like, you know, here's this money, but here's all these stipulations. Like literally just give it, if they're going to fucking just blow it and get drugs or whatever, that's their, this is their life, you know? But if this is something that like, you know, that's where I think all these regulations that we're kind of putting in place with like, you know, here's this amount and this is all you get. Bottom line is we're trying to control something we shouldn't even be trying to control. Right. That's the problem. You got to treat it as charity. Because here's the thing, the reason why it went that way, Justin, is because so many people did do that. They're abusers. Yes. So many people, if you just gave money, so many people might just go out and do drugs. So many people might go buy themselves a new pair of shoes instead of getting food on the table for their family. Like so many people will make irresponsible decisions like that. So then they put regulation in there and you put these things, these systems in place where, oh, let's give them a box or let's give them a stamp that they can only use at grocery stores. In reality, we have no business even trying to control that anyway. There's a huge, there's a charity. What we're talking about is charity. And somehow we just put it all in the government's hands to like all of a sudden create this system, systematize it for us and we can just give it direct. And it actually takes the power away from the people to be able to solve these problems themselves because they are problems that people want to solve. But when you give it to government to do, again, number one, there's tons of corruption, tons of corruption in these systems. And a lot of people are like, well, they don't, it's no longer my problem. I pay my taxes. Imagine if you just every year you owe 10% to whatever foundations or whatever year that's your taxes. And the type of the comms are conversations that would be having like this where it's just like, well, oh, you haven't heard of this company that's doing this and- Dude, if I could choose charities and start taxes, fuck yeah. And imagine how people would teach other people and imagine I had, like let's say I have where the last five years there's three or four companies that are charities out there that are doing things that I believe in that are really gonna change to impact the world for good. And I'm kind of committed to that. And then I meet Justin and Justin's like, oh my God, you haven't heard of this charity. You know what they're doing? Like man, you should put, and then I have the option to give even more money towards something else I believe in or maybe give less to something else I was giving money to and now that, like I think I really believe in humanity that we could figure this out. And I think that's letting the- If we saw people destitute and hurting, you think that like people that actually have, that the haves won't like contribute towards that? Come on, man. Listen to this, just so you guys, for people listening right now, they're like, oh no, that's not what it's like. Government's great, this and that. There are a lot of people. A lot of people say government's great, we need it. Because their husband or wife works for it. No, a lot of people say that. Let me give you an example, okay? There are over 30 cities in America where it's illegal to feed the homeless. If you yourself, if me, Adam and Justin, it's true. If me, Adam and Justin are like, you know what? We feel like we wanna help people. We see these homeless people over here under the underpass or whatever. You know what, guys? Let's go buy a bunch of pizzas, let's set up a table, and let's just feed the, and people used to do this quite a bit. People used to, I've actually contemplated in doing this with my kids, so they can see what it's like to give food to people themselves. You know what I mean? To actually see the person they're giving it to. There are over 30 cities in America where they've made that illegal. You can't do that. It has to be something that's licensed by the government or approved by the government. And if you as an individual cannot give, you know, set up tables in America. That's crazy. 100%. I did not know that. Yep, over 30 cities. This is true, you can look it up. Cool, I can't help. Any in California? Not California. Actually, I believe so. I mean, I could look up and see if I can find any. Wow, and so what's their thought, is their thought process? Oh, there's a lot in California. Chico, Costa Mesa, Hayward, Los Angeles, Malibu, Ocean Beach, Pasadena, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco. What? Yep, absolutely. They make it illegal to distribute food. Now, what is the logic behind that? Is there thought process to think that there'd be less bums, so let's not do it? I don't know, but I can guess that it's, let me guess, I don't know what it is. So this is me speculating, but because I know government enough to know how full of shit they can be, that they probably say something like, we need to check the food to see if it's safe. It needs to follow certain nutrient requirements. It's not labeled, you know, like bullshit, you know, arguments for the safety of people who are fucking hungry. Here, here's my poison apple. Yeah. Bro, here's the thing, like, they don't want to be out-competed for helping people to be the one to help people, you understand? Because then you take their power away. Right, they control it right now. Yeah, so anyway, ridiculous, but no, I think what Trump is doing, I know what he's trying to do. He's trying to appeal to his base by saying, these boxes contain foods that are non-perishable and all made in America. So now he's, now he's like, you know, to the whole, yeah, the whole nationalism thing. And I'm saving money and there's that. And then the liberals are gonna be like, oh my God, that's terrible. What if people don't like the food and then they're gonna come back and be like, well, you know, beggars can't be choosers. And let's go back and forth. And hilarious that they're actually trying to do. Well, do you think that's- But I think it's a terrible, I think he's doing a terrible- This is gonna be uproar for sure. Yeah, it's stupid. I really think he's not, this is not a smart way to cut costs of welfare. I don't think it's gonna benefit too many people. I think what I would say is, I think would be much more intelligent. I couldn't imagine being the president right now with how much fucked up shit that we have. Like, it would feel like oh, you're almost always robbing Peter to pay Paul and everything that you do. It's, you know, it's crazy. You got, you know, the other thing that everybody is divided on with him is the building the wall thing, right? Like building the wall up and keeping him out in. But then you could argue, wouldn't it be smarter to let him in and just help make it easier for them to become a citizen? Now that we collect tax money from them, wouldn't that be regulated? Right, wouldn't that be a better strategy? But then you have to worry about, okay, well, wait a second. If we have this, if we're California is already a welfare state, and then all of a sudden we let these people even easier to get become a citizen, then that much easier to get on welfare. So now that gets driven up because you've opened up the gates to come in. So what a fucking challenge that is. I mean, that's, I mean, how do you handle that? How do you deal with that dichotomy, right? So you have to approach it very intelligently and know what your angles are. It's politics, so I can't stand it. That's why I would never. You love it. I can't, this guy, I can't stand it. He's deep into it. What are you talking about? Oh no, I hate politicians. I hate politicians, politicians. No, I can't stand politicians. And Trump's not- Say what you mean. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And Trump's not really a classic politician, you know, but he does know how to play politics better than politicians so far. He seems to be winning at that game. I hate the whole bullshit game, you know what I mean? I wish we could just be straight. The only thing that excited me even about having Trump was I wanted to have somebody who I felt like, because I feel like our company, the United States needs like economic help more than anything else. So somebody who like understands business better than the person. We've been trying to be world police for like forever. Right, and I feel like we've been going through a lot of politicians that are more into playing the politician game than actually getting shit done or changing things that need to be changed. Where I do feel like Trump is shaking a lot of shit up. I know he's pissing a lot of people off, and I don't know if I agree with a lot of things, but then I also don't know what he's trying to accomplish what you're talking about right now, Sal, because maybe his ultimate vision is to head in a direction that we're talking about, but he knows also that you can't just all of a sudden cut that overnight because people will shit themselves. This is the transition in that direction. Here's what would happen if he said, I'm cutting a bunch of bureaucracy, welfare bureaucracy, and giving people a check. Like I said, what they'll do is they'll come back and they'll strike and say, he's cutting 10,000 jobs. We're all losing our jobs because Trump doesn't like poor people, that's how they would spin it. And that's why I hate the fucking game so much. It's so, yeah, because I used to work for the government for 10 years and I was helping poor people and then Trump cut my job and now I'm unemployed and then they'll spin that around and say that he's cutting jobs, which is not, listen, a government job's not a job. It's not, I'm sorry. It's just not, whoa, no, hold on a second. It is 100%, it does not create wealth. It is 100% taken from taxes and paid for. Some of them I can see being necessary maybe, but it's not a wealth creator versus you go work for a company that's on the private market. It is fully supported by people's voluntary money and that means it has created value and wealth for people. If you cut all the government jobs, I think a lot of them would still exist. Like I think people would still want police and fire and I think they would still want education and stuff like that. I think they'd make more money. Probably. Yeah, I think teachers and police and I think a lot of those people would make more money if it was done that way to officials. A lot of it gets eaten up on the way over to them. I saw a post somebody made the other day where they were like, how dare this CEO or something make this much money and teachers only make this much or this rapper make this much and this teacher make this much. This is not good, we need to change this. And I replied to this, a friend of mine who I don't know why we're still friends because I always hammer on them. And I replied and I'm like, you know, I said the teacher makes a certain amount because that's a reflection of what the market is willing to pay that teacher for that job. And there's a rapper that the market is willing to pay a certain amount. And I said, the reason why people don't like that is it's a reflection of us. It's a reflection of ourselves. Like when we look at- Right, that we care more about the music these guys produce. That's it, if we want, look at it, bottom line is you want teachers to make more money, pay them more money. That's it. You want people that you want things to be paid to be worth more, then go spend more on them, but we don't. And so it's a reflection of us and we don't like how ugly we are sometimes. That goes back to that entitlement thing we do. That's it. That's it. So, do you have any more? No, I don't think we need to throw it. I think we're good. I don't think we need to throw it. I had something I'll save it for tomorrow and maybe gasoline on the fire. I think what I'm gonna, just to kind of lighten it up again, what I think I'm gonna do to see if it helps my stomach is I think I'm gonna have some of the gold juice because that seems to have positive effects on my gut every time I use it. What do you think it is inside of it that's doing that? Turmeric. The turmeric. Yeah, I think it's a turmeric because turmeric has got really good beneficial effects on gut health and inflammation in the gut. And I take turmeric for more organifi also because they do sell just straight turmeric and it's a really good quality one, but then that gold juice has got a lot of turmeric in it, but then there's other things in it that are anti-inflammatory. So I'm gonna start taking that. And it tastes good. And it's really good. Yeah, I know. That's why it's probably the tastiest. Kind of silly how good it is. No. Yeah. Bird. The eagle has landed. Chimaera quaw! Today's quaw is being brought to you by Chimaera coffee. It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural nutropics for a cleaner, calmer, and more focused buzz without the crash. Put the Chimaera link at mindpumpmedia.com and input the discount code MindPump to check out for 10% off. It's the motherfucking quaw. The eagle has landed. Qua-quaw. First question is from Michael Salzel. I am a first year medical student, have six hours of lecture every weekday and study four to five hours every night. I find myself living a very sedentary lifestyle and know this could be bad for my long-term health. What do you suggest I do? Ooh, this is a really good question because it hits home for me right now. Yeah, exercise can take inactivity and diet can take on different purposes and roles in your life. Sometimes you may be working out and eating because you're really pushing performance and you're really maximizing how strong you are or how fast you are and you're killing it in the gym. Other times they may be tools to help you do the other things that may be a priority for you. Now in this case, you're a medical student first year. Now that is a ridiculous workload. I've worked with doctors. I've worked with medical students. I know how much work is involved. I know how much studying is involved, how hard it is to even get a normal seven or eight hours of sleep, let alone finding time to work out. You gotta be on call. It's just, it can get really crazy. And so I think it would be unrealistic to think that you're going to work out for hardcore performance or aesthetic goals. While you're doing this, but because your priority is to be an effective student to get good grades and get far so that you can graduate and do well, you need to use exercise and nutrition as tools to help promote and facilitate that because lack of activity and poor health, you gotta ask yourself this. Which of these two options, which one is going to make me a better and more effective student and learn and be able to retain information? Being poor health and totally sedentary or better health with some activity? And the answer, the easy answer is some activity with better health. So you don't have to be crazy with your workouts, but maybe in between studying, you do 10 to 15 minutes of trigger sessions or push ups or stretching or mobility. And maybe when you eat, you consciously make a choice to eat foods that you know are better for you because the 30 minutes a day or 25 minutes a day that you devote to doing these things isn't going to take away from your studying time. It's going to add to, because now I don't know about you guys, but when my health is good and my sleep is good, I can read and write and absorb information way faster. Like I can read a paper and absorb it. It's like lasting energy. It's just as opposed to like quick bursts, like you try and get caffeine or processed foods to comfort you through this process. And it gives you like an initial jolt of energy, but then you crash even harder when that goes through. So yeah, definitely any sort of activity, this is where it's like throughout your day. You just have to like figure out a couple different moves that you can kind of go to like constantly in between. And this is one of those things that you're just going to kind of look at it as charging you up to keep you going. So I would tend to do more like mobility moves, throughout the day, like Sal said, trigger sessions. So we're getting like some blood pumping in there and getting your muscles some activity. So that way, it also helps you to think more sharply, more clearly. And that's going to be super important going through that process as a student. So I have two bits of advice. And I think what the boys gave is, I think phenomenal advice also. So maybe one of us will hit on something that you can actually apply to your life. I think that I have a lot of clients that have been in this situation. I personally have been in a situation where I just don't have that kind of time. Things that I've seen that I've been very successful with is finding ways that I can get them to multitask and still do something that's active. For example, like I don't know if everything that you're consuming as far as your, what you're learning is all having to sit down and read a textbook or if some of that is audio. By being able to listen to something and learn and then walk at the same time. Because normally what happens is someone like this, they literally are only moving like 1,000 to 3,000 steps total in an entire day, which is less than you walking consistently for just a half hour. So that's crazy. So if you can take that person and you could literally triple their activity just by getting them to go for a walk for about an hour to 90 minutes every single day, even if that means you break it up in three 30 minute breaks. Or you can walk and multitask and answer phone calls or call people and do stuff or listen audio while you're also walking. I think that will be the biggest bang for your buck because people are blown away by how much that will make a difference. I'm watching right now. So I'm probably inching up over probably 14% body fat. So I'm in some of the worst shape I've been in the last four years. And it's just cause I can't move. I've reduced all the way down to one to two meals a day and all it takes is me to be off the diet a little bit, have some sweets or go to a fucking baby shower and drink some alcohol. And I'm like adding a percent of body fat every time that happens. And it's just because I'm fucking sedentary. I haven't had a day where I've moved over 2000 steps because I've been in a boot for the last six weeks. So I'm watching the body fat just compile on me and it can get very overwhelming and depressing when that's happening to you. And where it's really depressing for me right now is I'm in a situation where I can't go walk. Like I wish I could at least just go move and walk because that would help me so much more. So that's my first piece of advice is if you can find a way to walk 60 to 90 minutes every single day, whether you break it up in small little increments and breaks between your studying all day and all night or if you can multitask and be able to work on some things or learn while you're also walking I think that would be a game changer. The other thing is we just released Maps Hit. And Maps Hit is a 15, a 20 and a 25 minute workout that you get as an option in there. And Hit is designed to burn the most amount of calories in the shortest amount of time. So if you're looking to get a good calorie burn while you're going through this process this is a good alternative for you. Although we recommend that people don't follow a HIIT program for longer than about six weeks it is an alternative or something that you can incorporate. So maybe you don't do the HIIT all the time but every once in a while you incorporate a HIIT and then other days you walk. So maybe when you can get your 90 minute walk in for the day you do it. But the days when you're for sure crunch for time and you only have 15 or 20 minutes you implement HIIT. So that's my piece of advice that I think would work or help out someone in this situation. I just think when you, again because I've worked with so many people in this situation, especially in medicine they tend to be extremely driven. They tend to be extremely goal oriented. Like we're not talking about lazy individuals. These are, they're highly intelligent, cream of the crop, bust of their ass. They got there for a reason. And so I've had so much success with having them look at their exercise as another tool to make them more effective at what they're trying to do. And once I'm able to communicate that effectively then they all of a sudden are able to make the time because now they view it as a performance enhancer. Performance driven, yeah. Yeah, because that's what they are. They're very performance driven. Like if they knew that- It's hard to get that person jump started though because they're so overwhelmed with everything like that because it's hard for them to see that. Oh no, you gave very constructive advice. It's all coming at them from different angles. Yeah, no, you gave very constructive advice because then the next conversation I'd have with them would be like, okay, fuck, I wanna do it now, what do I do? And then that's when I would have that conversation of listen to maybe your lecture while you walk or every 30 minutes or 45 minutes of studying do five to 10 minutes of movement, mobility, or stretching so that every two or three hours, it's like 20 minutes of movement. Study in the sun, go out and read the book outside. Like that'll be great for you too. Dude, I'm telling you, so when I was doing, when I was doing trigger sessions regularly, what I would do them three times a day, one side effect I found from a trigger session, which takes about eight minutes, is it was more effective than a cup of coffee. Like sometimes I'd be sitting there and I'd be like, oh my God, I'm so lazy. I don't wanna do an eight minute trigger session, but this was during the period of time where I'm testing the product out or the program out, this was before we launched, before I even finished putting Maps Anabolic together as a program you could buy online. And I'd be like, oh, I'm really tired, I don't wanna do this, but I was testing the program so I made myself get up. And I remember every single time afterwards, I was like, well, I feel way more energized. And I remember realizing like, this is a good tool that I can use when I'm trying to write or work, which I still to use to this day. Until this day, if I'm in a meeting and I find myself losing focus, I'll stand up and I'll sit in the back and I'll stretch or I'll move. Or if we're all creating a program together and we're all sitting around, sometimes I'll stand up and I'll stretch or I'll do some movement. And it's not because I'm bored, it's because it literally helps me focus. It's a really powerful performance enhancement tool. Explain what's happening to us too, because when we are sedentary, where we've been sitting for hours, it's crazy how much you become in this sympathetic state where your heart rate starts to go really, really- Parasympathetic. Yeah, excuse me, parasympathetic, where your heart rate starts to slow down big time. You wanna go to sleep. Yeah, and you go from somebody who probably averages like 70 beats all the way down to like 50 something because you're so slow. Then you just getting up and doing literally, like you're saying a little three minute to eight minute trigger session, that accelerates that. And then it still takes another probably hour before you get back to where you just were. So you're gonna get all the added benefits of the calorie expenditure and your heart rate being elevated for that, even that short little duration for the next hour or two. So learning to interject those little eight, 10, 15 minutes. Here's another thing too that I've learned. So I don't have a whole lot of formal education. I went to basically high school and a little bit, tiny bit of college. Most of it's all learning on my own. And people have asked me, how do you study and retain some of the information that you read? I could, I never really learned how to study, but I started to figure out what I do and one of the things that I do that's very effective that I'm now able to verbalize and really only put this together relatively recently is if I read something and I read something very impactful, I'll stop reading it. I'll do something else where I'm stretching or moving or even if I'm not, even if I'm just sitting there and I'll talk about it, even if I'm talking about to myself. So something you can do is if you're studying and you're reading something and you're like, I need to get up and move, stop what you're reading while you're stretching or doing mobility, start reciting what you read and start talking about what you read while you're doing the mobility and watch what happens to your retention. For me personally, it's like the most effective note taking I've ever done in my entire life. It's very, very effective at retaining information. Next question is from Eat Pretty Food. Would you say bar yoga Pilates would be the equivalent of a mobility or trigger session? How many times a week would you throw those types of classes in addition to training days? No, they're not, they're not equivalent. So mobility and trigger sessions are targeted for particular goals and adaptations. Bar yoga and Pilates are, for example, if I did it, if I walked into a yoga class and I didn't know it was a yoga class, I could tell you it was a yoga class. I could tell you it was a Pilates class. I could tell you it was a bar class. There's a specific way of doing the movements and there's a specific, you know, there's specific techniques and a specific- It's structured, it's generic. That you have to follow in order for it to fall under that umbrella or brand. So when you're doing bar, you're doing bar. When you're doing yoga, you're doing yoga. When you're doing new Pilates, you're doing Pilates. Now, are you getting some benefits from them? Sure. From burning calories? Can you potentially be increasing mobility? Are you moving? Yes, but it's very specific to those classes so it is not equivalent. Now, mobility and trigger sessions should be individualized to you, which makes them superior in many, many different ways. If I just put together a general mobility class and I named it, you know, salmobility or whatever, then that would be more like yoga or Pilates, where you come in and you take my class. Right, or even if it was sal's trigger, same thing, but their exercise is that you picked that you're dictating what they do that day where triggering and mobility, the way we've designed all the maps programs is that this is the customizable part. This is the part where you should have Prime or Prime Pro, you should do a test on you, you should see your imbalances, you should see your weaknesses, the things that could potentially be causing aches and pains in your body. You should know what those are, you should get to the root cause, and then your mobility and your trigger sessions should be structured around that. And you just can't do that in any class, right? No, and how I look at structured classes like that, you're getting better at the skills to perform movements that they just have as standards within their practice and in their class. So it's like, yeah, I can do that move, but what is that doing for my body in terms of if I'm compensating my way to get to the specific move? You know what I think of it's like? It's like diets, it's just like diets. And it's the same thing that we teach people like when you follow a ketogenic diet or the paleo diet or the vegan diet, it's not the fucking diet that made you feel so good. So I know there's people that are listening that are like, I take bar and I feel amazing. It's not a fucking bar that made you feel that way. There was something in that class that you needed, that your body was being neglected and it just happened to graze over it so you feel great. The better answer is let's figure that out. Let's hone in on that. Let's unpack that. Let's figure out what is it in those classes that does make you feel better and let's start to incorporate that into your lifestyle or your training regimen. The same thing is with dieting. People attach themselves to these fucking, I hate this, what I hate about fitness, they want to put everybody in a box. Oh, I'm Pilates. Oh, I'm young. Oh, this is better than this. It's like, no, there's something to take from all of them. There are some good, but they are very generic. And so if you go to one of these classes and you see benefit, don't say it's because of bar or yoga or Pilates, figure out what it is about that. What specific exercise was that? Right, what is it? What is it? Yeah, because there's a lot of people that yoga would be terrible for them. Well, and this is... You know what I mean? And I know you hear us saying, mobility and trigger sessions are superior, but it's not because mobility and trigger sessions are a class, it's because you can individualize them or you should individualize them to your body. So anything that is individualized to your body is gonna be superior to something that is designed around a structure for a class or for the masses. So, well, if you're doing mobility correctly, you're gonna address each individual joint's function specifically, okay? And now like, so we're talking about broad strokes versus like very small, like specific strokes. And so like mobility we're gonna be able to see, like, does my neck move, you know, the way it shes? Does my shoulders, are they supported in range of motion in all these different directions? Are my knees, my hips, you know, my ankles, like I'm specifically like directing my focus on whatever the discrepancy is. And so I'm trying to unpack that and figure that out versus like, I'm just trying to go through this to get a certain feeling after I'm done and everybody's trying to promote, you know, specific moves that everybody's doing in the class. This is why everybody I talk to, man, I plead, okay, if you're a listener of Mind Pump or you have one of our programs or none of our programs, if you do not have Prime, you have to have Prime. By the fucking program, there's a 30 day money back guarantee because what we did in there, in my opinion, is the most important piece to everything else that we've done because in there comes the assessment and if there's anything that's gonna help you get closer to figuring out what your body specifically needs and building an individual program on it. Even maps, even maps, like maps red, maps green, maps black, there is definitely a generic piece to it. We just took, we aggregated all the information that we had from the thousands of clients we've trained over the last 15, 20 years and we agreed that this is gonna give the biggest bang for the buck for a majority of all people. Does that mean that everybody's gonna have, no, it still is not individualized. The closest you can get to individualizing that is by taking like the compass test inside of Prime and seeing what's going on with your body and then learning how to address it and integrate it into one of the programs. Now, to be clear, does this mean that we think taking these classes is bad? No. No, not at all. They have their own benefit. Obviously you're being active. Classes have a benefit that individual training doesn't have, which is the- It's like community. Yep, you're connecting with other people- You gotta share though what you think is the average person, okay, in your experience that goes and takes those classes. The average person that takes those classes? That are drawn to those classes. Why are they drawn to those classes? Well, I think there's a factor of motivation. I think doing it on your own is, I mean, statistically speaking, much more difficult to stay consistent. Most people are scared. And right, I mean, when you take a class, they tell you what to do. You've got other people around you and there's benefits to working out with other people. There's benefits to the enjoyment of it. There's benefits to the connections that you make. And those classes, if done properly, can definitely benefit your health, especially in comparison to being sedentary. But if you're, you cannot compare them to individualized type mobility or trigger sessions or workouts because there is nothing general that will ever be as good for you as something that is designed specifically for you. Now, the second part of the question was, how many times a week would you throw those types of classes in addition to training days? Well, if you're working out two or three days a week, individualized, like in the gym, and you want to throw yoga or Pilates or bar on top of it and you're relatively fit, I mean, another two days a week of doing those classes should be absolutely fine. But be careful and manage your intensity. So if you're doing heavy, hard workouts in the gym on your own three days a week, then you may want to take a lower intensity yoga class the other times rather than doing these power yoga classes where you're pushing it even harder on your days off or doing like a spin class, which is another- I think that's an excellent point. I think it's also important to note too then, I am very pro and I've told clients that I think need like a very low intensity type yoga because I'm looking at the meditative benefits for that person. So I could totally see somebody incorporating that once or twice a week in their routine because they got a high stress job, they're already kicking their ass inside the gym on the routine that I have them doing. So going and doing yoga for me, I don't want it to be intense. I want it to actually be a time they can actually kind of decompress, get into some good stretches, meditate a little bit, get in some good head space. So I see huge benefits to that. But if you're going there for the sad part is most of these group type classes, they market themselves differently. They market themselves that elongating your muscles or lean in tone and they use terms like this to make people and you see they have images of these women that they're lean and sexy but they're not muscular and bulky. And so people are drawn to that and then they feel comfortable because it's in a class setting. If you are drawn for those reasons, it's the wrong reasons. If you're going to yoga because it is your time to yourself and it works for you like that and if you didn't have it scheduled, I respect that. Like I think there's a lot of value to that but bar and Pilates is pretty fucking intense, dude. Oh dude, yoga is too. I mean, I've taken some pretty tough yoga. Even the yin ones where you're on the floor and you're just stretching, especially if you're tight and if you're type A person. So this is maybe not for everybody but for me, sitting in a quiet room with quiet music, sitting in a stretch and like just being there with my thoughts was very difficult at times because I just wanted to get up and like throw something, you know what I mean? So, and I see lots of benefit of them but individualized always going to be better than class setting, always. Next is from you, Weber 18. Would you rather be extremely out of shape, aesthetically and really healthy or really good looking and always getting sick, poor energy, et cetera for the rest of your life? Isn't that, you know, it's funny about this question. What's funny about this question is- Subconsciously people make that decision all the time. They do and I guarantee you it's a young person asking this because this should never even be a question. Now, would it suck to be to look terrible but be really, really healthy? Yeah, there'd be a part of it that sucks because you're like, man, I'm really healthy and yet I look like I'm not. But if anybody's ever had poor health, let me tell you. Yeah, but you had to back up a little bit because what you just said, I know you don't agree with that. If you were really healthy, you would look good. This is, it's a hypothetical question, right? You're right, you're right. Right, right, let's be honest. If you were really healthy, you would look pretty damn good. Now, I think the better question is like, you know, because I could never be really healthy and look like what I looked like on stage. So if I was attached to or if I was still driven by my insecurities that got me into the gym, which is wanting to be this big bulky guy and be muscular, then I could see myself sacrificing my health for a look. And I think if you do make that decision, I think there's deeper things that are going on than actually- You know what, that's true because really the question is, would you rather be healthy and look good or look good and be unhealthy? Because there is no be healthy and look bad. That kind of doesn't really exist. Now, you may not look, you may not be healthy and be like, you know, Baywatch model or a bodybuilder, but you're not gonna look terrible. You're still gonna look pretty good. But you're right. I mean, people make this trade all the time and I'll tell you what, for anybody who's ever experienced real poor health, you would trade anything for, you would trade all your money for that. Look at all the wealthy people that spend their, half their fortune on trying to get their health back. Like your health is not worth anything. Your poor health changes how you think and how you view the world. I mean, look, Adam, right now you can't move, right? Your ankles hurt, you can't move. And you don't even have necessarily poor health, but you've been forced, right? To reduce your activity. How challenging is that on everything? Oh no, I'm battling depression right now. I'm literally, it's that challenging for me because it's debilitating for me. I cannot, I can't like overcome it physically. So I have to put in this mental discipline of sure in the past, I could eat these types of foods and still keep myself in incredible shape. I don't even have that option anymore. That's really depressing. That's really tough. And it makes me really appreciate just the ability to walk. Cause I've already had countless days since the last six weeks where I'm like, fuck man, it's a beautiful day. I wish I could just go walk my boys. I wish I could just go out for a nice hour walk. And I know that that would help me so much in so many ways. I would get sunshine, I would burn extra calories, I would feel better more, and I can't even do that. I would kill to do just to have that back, which I can't wait to just to be able to go on for an hour walk or a hike. You don't realize that until it's taken away from you. Once it's taken away from you, then it gives a whole, which, so that's the positive side, right? So here I'm saying I'm battling depression. The way I stay positive is like, I'm like, I always learn something more about myself and it gives me new perspective on things when you can't. You know, like, well, I just wouldn't have thought not being able to walk around. I wouldn't have thought that, you know, being forced to sit down. Now I'm just more appreciative for that. I bet you when I get back into the swing of things, those simple walks and things like that, I'll have a different perspective as I'm walking around. Totally, I mean, I had my own health issues. You know, I've talked about many times, you know, about, I don't know, 10 years ago maybe. And, you know, when that happened to me now, I have a total different appreciation for good health. Or just for, you know, and what I mean by good health is like, yes, there's optimal health, but there's also health where you don't have major health issues. Like that's a terrible way to live and it's not worth anything. And people who are willing to trade their health for aesthetics have no, the only reason why they're willing to make that trade is because they don't know what they're trading. They have no fucking idea. They really don't. Like, you know, you talk to somebody who has lung cancer after smoking cigarettes for years and you ask them, was it worth it? And I guarantee you, probably all of them would be like, no man, that totally wasn't worth it. You talk to somebody who has had, you know, heart surgery or, you know, is limited, can't play with their grandkids or whatever. You know, was it worth that life of, you know, poor health? I had, I'll never forget this. I'm pretty sure I mentioned these people before, but I'll do it again. I had this lady come in once who hired me as a personal trainer. She comes in and she's pretty obese. She had about 80 pounds to lose. So she comes in, she wanted an orientation. I sit her down, I start talking to her about her goals, like you're supposed to do when you're a trainer. And she tells me how her and her husband got married young. I think they were like 19 years old and they started a trucking business. And their goal was to retire before the age of 50. So they were like, we're going to bust our ass, work as hard as we can, sacrifice everything so that we can make enough money to retire and travel the world. And they did, they retired at the age of, I think it was like 47, like real young, like they made all this money with this trucking company, busted their asses, retired, had this money, fucking do dyes of a heart attack, like months afterwards. So now here she is with me sitting down, retired on her own, poor health of her own. Now she had some of her own health problems, like diabetes and a couple other things. She's on all this medication. And I'm talking to her about it and we had this real long, deep conversation. And she goes, you know what? She goes, if I could go back in time, I'd tell myself none of it was worth it at all. Like I wish I could work until I'm 75 but be healthy rather than doing what we did. And it's just people don't know what they're trading when they do these things. And unfortunately in fitness on the extreme levels with the bodybuilding, with the anabolic hormones, with the fat burners, with the crazy diets, with the girls that starve the fuck out of themselves. Yeah, the message is that that's the healthy standard. And what they don't realize is, number one, it's all false anyway. So while you're pushing all that shit and you are trying to accomplish this aesthetic ideal by hammering your body and harming yourself, number one, you never achieve whatever happiness you think you're gonna get. I have yet to meet a person who does all these crazy drugs and stuff for their body, who's a truly happy person. I haven't found one. They're all, there's a lot of issues and problems going on there. Well momentarily maybe they get to that goal and they're on stage and they're like on top of the world but now how do they maintain that? It's not really, if you don't have like other stuff in your life going on, it's you're chasing something that you'll never get. It's flea. Even if you get the look that you want. But then the worst part about that is when your health starts to rebel on you, which it will at some point, if you push it hard enough, you continue that path long enough, very few people can get away with it. Me and Adam were talking about this yesterday. We were talking about, there's a particular individual that we know who's been taking, you know, anabolic, high doses since he was in high school, just for a long ass time. And me and him were talking about, we're like, you know, it's weird that it's true very few people, so there are some people that can get away with this shit for longer than others because I couldn't get away with certain things for so long. Before I got to 30, my body said, fuck you and I had to make a choice. And, you know, I know people who get to 40 who keep doing this and, but at some point your body's gonna give you the finger and then you're gonna realize what you were really trading. You know what I mean? It's like you sign a deal with the devil almost where you ever watch the movies or the guy signs the thing and doesn't realize what he's actually getting. You know, there was a movie I watched a long time where this guy, like he missed hitting a ball to win the game of high school. And his wish was go back in time and hit that and make a home run and it changes his life. And then he's a millionaire and he's got this hot model. And then he totally- Did she like cheat on it? Well, he just misses his old life and his kids and all this other stuff. And, you know, you don't know what you're trading. This is not a trade you ever wanna make. And the good news is, if you chase health, you're gonna get a good deal of aesthetics. That's the good news. So go for that. Great. Next question is from Joe Pushner. Do you think our world, in particular, the nutrition wellness active world, suffers from a lack of independent thinking? I think it's getting better. You know, one of the good things about being in fitness professionally for 20 years and longer as a fan of fitness is I can see from a long perspective the changes that are happening. Because if I look at it right now, if I just get into it the last couple of years, I would say, yeah, it's totally lack of independent thinking. Everybody's parroting everybody. But if I compare it to 15 years ago, it's a lot better. It's definitely got a lot better. And, you know, the dilemma is that as professionals in the field, you know, you have to be able to sell yourself. You have to be able to sell your brand. You have to be able to sell your ideas. And I feel like it becomes this competitive environment to sway you in a direction of thinking that's very specific to whatever brand or ideals that's portrayed. And so it sort of tug-of-war is the consumer all over the place. And this is a really hard kind of thing that we're trying to overcome and create sort of bridges across the board of like, okay, well, where's the truth within this direction? Where's the truth in that direction? And, you know, it always starts with, well, not always, but most of the time, you know, a lot of these trains of thoughts and camps, you know, emerge because of truth. And there's some value there that everybody can kind of extract. And then it just becomes like, well, we have to be different. And so we have to pull you in this direction. Just ignore all that other stuff. 15 years ago, if you asked, you know, 100 people in fitness, what is a good diet for, you know, for health, fat loss, muscle building, whatever. The answer you would have gotten is eat, you know, four to six meals a day, eat a relatively low fat. Tilapia and asparagus. Yeah, chicken breast is really good asparagus. It would be very general and it would have been everybody would have said the same shit. Yeah, no salt. You know, today, if you ask a hundred people, you're gonna get a lot of different answers and you're gonna get some crossover answers. And the same is true with training. Like, you know, 15, 20 years ago, dudes that lifted like a bodybuilder didn't do anything else. Now you still see that today, but I'm starting to see a little bit more carry over to the other thing. So it's moving in a good direction, but it's still boxes. You still see a lot of boxes. I don't know if this will ever change. I think that we lack independent thinking across the board on all industries. I don't think this is just nutrition wellness. I think, and I don't think it's all bad either, right? So I think part of evolution is that we take from something else that somebody did before us and then we build upon it, right? I mean, that's how we've evolved to where we are today. And if everybody was independent thinkers, would we ever be able to progress that way? You know, everybody would be pulling in different directions. So I don't think the lack of independent thinking is that bad of a thing. I mean, I'll be the first to admit that when I first got onto Instagram, I was modeling what I saw people having success with in my space. It wasn't my voice. It wasn't game changing. It wasn't independent thinking, but it was me trying to learn how this all worked. And I remember kind of piecing that together. And then I feel like here we are three years later and I finally have kind of found my voice. And I feel like a lot of what my impimp says and talks about may seem like it's very independent thinking, but it's a collaboration of many intelligent people that we've read or spoke to over the course of the last 15, 20 years. Now, we also live in a world today that Copycat is really fast and easy. Like it's different than what it was 20 years ago. Now, man, you could search somebody across the world that's doing something very similar to you, see what they're doing and copy, paste, and be doing the same thing. So, you know, we do lack that creativity sometimes. And I do believe we see more of that. But I also think that also opens the doors for people like us because there's so many of these people just copycatting each other. Guys like us go like, oh my God, so many of these people are copying the wrong things. So there's an opportunity for guys like us to come forward and be like, whoa, let us tell you that it's not just like this, that there's actually more to this. And if these people that were telling you all this information actually trained and helped thousands of people, they would probably be able to tell you the same thing. But they're not because they're just parroting somebody else's bullshit. That got passed to them. So I don't think it's such a bad thing. I think we as people, I think we have to learn to seek out more and new information. I think we need to understand that you always have to keep growing. I think you're either growing or dying. And so if you're not learning new information, you're not seeking more new stuff, I think then you're already starting the process of dying. But I think some of the best things that you can learn when you train people for a long period of time, for me, I can be, this is quite clear. The probably the best lesson that I learned from training and working with people in fitness for 20 years was just how shocking the variance could be from individual to individual. Like how different people could be when it came to how they responded to exercise, how they responded to nutrition and how they respond and how I had to communicate to them as a trainer. Like it was always, it was so shocking that when I first became a trainer, I denied it. Like people would tell me things like, I don't know, Sal, I feel way better when I eat like this. And I'd be like, no, you don't. You don't know what you're talking about. That's not, you know, that's not good. Like I know that if you eat veganism, you're gonna lack these nutrients. So that's not the way to eat. And I know that this is supposed to be healthy for you and you don't know what you feel. And little by little, I started listening to people and started to kind of break down what they're talking about. And it's, and of course the science is all supporting it now that there are general things you can say, you know, there's general things I can say in terms of nutrition and exercise and activity. But when you get the individual in front of you, there's a big, I'll tell you what, look, here's the thing, like when you, when you're looking at a chart of people, most people are somewhere in the middle, but then it kind of spreads out. And the further it spreads out from the middle, the bigger the variances. You know, I had a client who, you know, he came to me, he was an anesthesiologist, very intelligent guy, actually one of the most intelligent guys, he's probably listening to me right now, give a shout out to Mike. He's one of the most intelligent guys I've ever trained. And he wanted to build muscle, wanted to get stronger. And he was a vegetarian. And me and him had this conversation about being a vegetarian. And I said, you know, it'll probably be easier for you to build muscle if you had more meat, this and that and the other. And he says, and I said, tell me your story. I was like, why are you vegetarian? And he says, oh, he goes, well, I went on this charity trip where I was donating my services. And I remember where exactly it was and he would do this every year. And they were in a region where the food, the culture of the region was where they fed them vegetarian, but it also involved lots of activity. They had to hike miles to get to these villages to perform these procedures to help people. So he was eating a vegan kind of diet while he was doing all this crazy activity and travel. And he's like, the crazy thing is I was able, and I wasn't in shape when I did it. And he goes, I had way more stamina, way more strength, and I just felt better. And then I came back to the US and I started eating meat again and I felt terrible. And he goes, and I've since done it several times and I've clearly made that distinction for myself that I feel better. Now he, of course, being an intelligent guy, presenting it to me in that way, knowing that he's actually tested things and tried them out or whatever, I'm not gonna argue with that. And he told me then, I said, well, shit, obviously it's working better for you and you're able to get stronger and be more fit as a result of it. So that's when I hear the independent thinking thing. What I'm thinking isn't necessarily a bunch of people creating their own whatever. What I see in fitness that I'm talking about is I see more people breaking out of the mold a little bit. Like I see, I'm starting to see people use kettlebells who aren't kettlebell specialists, or I start to see- Well, cause we're getting stronger, we're building- Totally. We're building on previous- We're more integrative. Yeah, we're building on previous knowledge. I mean, I know that I'm intelligent cause I know that I know nothing. And I think that I put that together really early on in my career because there was always an exception to the rule. There was never this solid truth to everything. There was always, every time I thought for sure about something, it never failed me. I met a client that blew, that fucking shattered my paradigm. And once you had that done enough times, you find like now when anybody tries to tell me anything, I'm like, okay, maybe, you know? Maybe, maybe part of that works when you present it that way and it worked for those people that you talk about. But I bet I can find somebody who doesn't. And so- And I think too, like that's why you don't, maybe you don't see it quite as often because it's really fucking hard to sell. It's really hard to sell the idea that like, this may work beautifully for this type of a person or coming in versus somebody else. And you individually, it really is up to you to experience it and figure that out. And so like us as coaches and people in the industry, we have to come in with our past experiences, what has worked, what hasn't worked, present it, allow the individual to experience it and then take notes internally and apply it. What's applicable to you as the individual? So it's like, what do you call that? Well, a lot of it- The consumer's lazy, dude. That's the thing. The consumer on it laid out for them. Katrina was just asking me that at night, she's like- Because it takes work, dude. Right. It takes a lot of work. She was asking me that at night, she's all, how do you decide who you're gonna help? Like at this point, so many people are asking for your help and information from you like, how do you know who to give help to and who not to, you know? And I say, I always put it back on that person. I can always tell if they're willing to, they care enough they wanna learn. Like they care enough to text me or DM me. Like that's not enough proof to me that this person is really, generally cares. They're just searching for the easy answer. And I'm not gonna give them the easy answer. I never answer an answer straightforward. Like anybody who knows me, who's asked me a question, I never go this or that. I always go, well, it could be this, it could be that, it could be this. It depends. Yeah, you need to probably figure this out and work on this and do this and track that and do that. And I put a bunch of shit back on them. And if that person takes the time and effort to go put in all that hard work, then I know they care. Most people don't. Right, most people don't. That's the honest to God truth. Most fucking people do not, they are just looking for some generic answer. And I just refuse to do that. I refuse to give you- Well, you can't. How can you give an answer? You don't know. Right. How can if somebody's telling me, Sal, with my diet- I could if I didn't have integrity, I just wanna sell things. You know, if I wanted to just sell things, I'd say, oh, that's because you need our maps and you're not doing it right. Oh, you need that. You need that. You just need that. You just need this, you know what I'm saying? Sell you all of our shit, but that's just not how I work. I'd much rather see if you're willing to put the work in and actually start to do some research on yourself. If you don't wanna make that step, then I can't help you. Absolutely. 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