 Roll call please Supervisor Leopold here Coonerty here Caput here McPherson chair friend here If you could all join us for a moment of silence in the Pledge of Allegiance Morning mr. Plasio sir there any changes to today's agenda Yes, we have a few changes. There's a correction to The agenda on page nine put it a new Strikeout and underline company copy. There was an issue with the numbering. So revised agenda page nine On the consent agenda item number 13. There's additional materials revised attachment a and On item 24. There's additional materials. There's a replacement memo page two That concludes the Corrections and revisions. Thank you. We're gonna begin today with public comment It's an opportunity for members the community to address us and items that are not on the agenda But within the purview of the board supervisors as well as items on the consent agenda You may also speak on an item on the regular agenda if you're unable to stay for the item on the regular agenda We do have a couple public regular scheduled items on the regular agenda Can I get a sense of how many people are interested in speaking during the public comment period? Okay Unfortunately just due to the number of people in the fact that we have a regular scheduled item I'm gonna have to maintain it at two minutes for the public comment So feel free to come on forward now and Address us on items either on consent on the upcoming a regular agenda or on items on today's agenda. Good morning, Gary Gary Richard Arnold Sherman. That's outrageous You're setting up this new set of rules in order to give the public more time and more information than exactly you cut It by one third exactly what Ryan Coonerty did at the city council over there You're outrageous and it's impossible and mr. Palacios brought these new rules before this county and all of you adopted them It's an attempt for censorship Those rules were written up for politicians by politicians to give you more power so you can control the public You kept no minutes or records in coming up with these new rules The new rules were imposed under the efficiency and pretext. It's really for censorship This is outrageous One frequent citizen that comes up here has been falsely arrested Again, mr. Palacios is acting as attorney. He puts out a a Notice to this person not to show up to human services. She issues a letter They bring the police down and arrest them. There was no legal warrant for this particular deal whatsoever This is an attack. This is censorship against the people out here According to a million of human services. She says mr. Palacios says that's a legal restraining order. It is not I Was more I was with mr. Alexander the person that was complaining here when I was picking up a prescription We put our arm into a blood pressure cuff. His went up to over 150 went into red I took him to the hospital at the hospital. He called the county clerk He arrived at the courthouse with the doctor's report. He has a warrant for him for not showing up This is outrageous. This is a Panetta machine of which you guys are totally undercover for We've had complaints to the DA about yourself and Leopold about Violent Threats against people and property. We haven't heard a word from the DS DA and also both these people belong to Copa who says they can raise 500 people in order to suppress I encourage people to go to freedom forum tomorrow night at 7 p.m Which they try to censor Illegally with threats of violence. Thank you property and people no. Thank you for starting us off this morning Gary Anybody else like to address us during public comment? Yes Good morning. Good morning My name is Tara Ireland. I'm the senior programs manager at the Volunteer Center. I'm joined by Kelly Mercer Leibov from Loudon Nelson Senior programs this morning. We wanted to let you know a few things We're part of a loneliness and isolation work group that formed last fall from the senior summit that some of you were at Our work group focuses on finding solutions and delivering services for our county's most vulnerable seniors In this first step we have identified facts about senior loneliness and isolation We know that social isolation and loneliness are a major health issue and a growing public health epidemic Not just for seniors but for our society as a whole As more of us live longer Social ties can come apart for us and the negative effects on health can and be profound We know that research shows Isolation and loneliness are worse for health than obesity and is the equivalent to smoking 15 cigarettes per day In the coming months you will start to hear more about this issues as members of the community are working towards Working together to create an exhibit at the mall that shares art Stories ideas and issues that surround senior loneliness in Santa Cruz County By bringing this quiet and invisible issue into the light. We've already seen progress Recently at the downtown senior center at Loudoun Nelson Community Center We work together with lifeline to use measure D funds to expand lifeline services To provide door-to-door transportation to all of the classes and activities and programs held at Loudoun Nelson for any Senior over 60 that lives anywhere in Santa Cruz County When transportation is a barrier to access many seniors feel uncomfortable asking for consistent rides and this discomfort can lead to isolation At the Volunteer Center our programs demonstrate that being of service in your community is one possible solution to reduce loneliness and Isolation data from a national study looking at the health benefits Volunteering found that volunteers report improved health after just one year of service Thank you for listening and lastly we encourage you to support and prioritize services for older adults Thank you. Thank you both for your work You do outstanding work Good morning. Welcome. Good morning. Good morning. I'm Laurie Butterworth I'm the founder and executive director of Jacob's heart children's cancer support services And we are here for a moment of gratitude and thank you for declaring September childhood cancer awareness month and we did that the first time 20 years ago at the when when then senator Bruce McPherson took our initiative our idea to Set aside a month for children with cancer in their families and that was then signed 20 years ago by Governor Gray Davis at Supervisor McPherson at your prompting and you you walked that in for us and we are deeply grateful We're deeply grateful to supervisor Caput who donates a portion of his salary here to support children with cancer in their families So I'm here to say thank you And I have with me Ishtar Carter who would like to read a letter from one of our parents right here in Santa Cruz that she Wrote that was not able to be here today, and you'll figure out why thank you Good morning. My name is Sarah Moore. I am mourning my oldest son Charlie He died of diffuse midline glioma a rare inoperable brain tumor on August 31st 2018 at 11 years old I am here speaking to you today Thanks to the immeasurable love of Jacob's heart and their selfless acts of compassion during the most traumatic year of our family's life I received a phone call last September from their founder Laurie Butterworth The day after Charlie came home from a whirlwind week in the PICU at Stanford I remember standing on the cliffs above Seabright when she reached out because she heard our child was diagnosed with cancer And she wanted to tell us about their annual kid rages carnival the next day in Watsonville An honest chat and a simple invitation became one of the most meaningful Relationships I've had in 40 years Each individual at Jacob's heart from the board members who also work in the cancer ward The volunteers who paint the brown bags for the grocery deliveries we get on Thursdays or the ladies who send Thank-you cards for those of us who can't find the energy has changed me for the better We have laughed cried anguished and celebrated together The Jacob's heart family has accompanied us to Lucille Packard Children's Hospital Hosted and attended our kids birthday parties paid our bills for us and gave us the priceless gift of time at their annual family weekend camp heart and hands When some of the most amazing pediatric Neuro-oncologists in the country tell you to create memories with your dying child It makes all the difference in the world if you have the heartfelt experience financial emotional and Psychological support of a unique organization like Jacob's heart in our dreams They wouldn't exist in our shattered reality They are vital to the survival of kids Siblings parents grandparents relatives and friends who are literally doing their best to endure the unfathomable We appreciate your public acknowledgement They deserve every honor and accolade for 20 years of making the surreal details manageable the hardest moments Somehow happy assuring us that despite the lack of national funding for pediatric cancer someone cares Thank you. Thank you for sharing up I just like to thank Jacob's heart for what it's done and what it started and I believe me it was a privilege and an honor to carry that message to this on the state level to According to the because according to the National Childhood Foundation cancer Foundation cancer kills more children than asthma diabetes cystic fibrosis and AIDS combined it's Just a heart-wrenching situation, but it's just tremendous that we have people like Jacob's heart who led the charge and has Provided so much care and caring and understanding of those who need it most. Thank you Thank you. Thank you, sir. That's for us Thank you both for what you're doing Thank you. Good morning. Welcome. Morning. Hi, my name is Josh Clark, and I'm here today to speak about second story and it's closing and You know two years ago. I was considered what people consider mentally ill and to be able to Go to a place and really work on what issues were were there and the issues that It's really separate me from what I would consider being a part of society those issues really it kept me from living the life that I have now and part of that Part of second story is having the support there to help me get back to those that point that I was at and Today I'm back at that point even better You know second story was there for me at the bottom of ladder and is still there 20 rungs up And it'd be a shame for it to be taken away so abruptly, you know Two years ago. I used it as as a way to to get back on on the horse and now I'm using it to get on a horse further like another horse I'm hopping off one horse getting on to another horse going further down the line now We were searching for funding right now funding is is really the the hard part about this Without funding we wouldn't be able to operate the house, which is the key component to what makes second story work You know other Programs have been proposed, but at the same time they haven't been planned out as well as second story has been executed and So to be clear second story really isn't second story without the house and Will not be second story if we can't find funding by come December this year Thank you. Thank you for sharing The morning welcome. Thank you for waiting My name is Jose Reyes, and I'm here to appeal to you in regards to second story as well second story is a respite model that has really worked for me, and I'm here to explain to you just my situation But keep in mind that I am one of many Okay, so I know you're kind people and you care a lot, but I'm also here to appeal to you with some numbers Okay last this year alone I have caused the taxpayers of Santa Cruz County and California over a hundred thousand dollars in hospital stays mental health facilities health insurance And and also public benefits. Okay. I'm very much a recipient of the mental health system But as as as I'm very much part of that model, but as a recipient since second story And the support of my peers and the respite house because the problem was my environment it was triggering a lot of Symptoms within myself and my diagnosis. I will keep to myself because it's personal But since second story in the peer support model, I have gained employment full-time. I now I'm going to get Health insurance so I will not be taxing the taxpayers anymore in regards to my my mental health issues And also I am now Negotiating as we speak more permanent housing. So remember I am one of many people this model Yes, may be expensive, but consider the alternative. Okay, it may it may be something that a Couple weeks at second story is going to save over a hundred thousand dollars Possibly potential a hundred thousand dollars next year on just one person alone. I am very expensive But this program This program has changed the trajectory of my life. I had a suicide attempt about two years ago I no longer Feel that that is necessary for me to escape my problems And it's all because of the disappear support model that we have here. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. Welcome Thank you for waiting Hi, my name is Jennifer Collin I'd like to talk about second story and In support of it Second story is an irreplaceable Source of hope and support in our community. It is a sanctuary for people who need it The peer support counselors are empathic and they help to Create positive differences in the lives of their peers I worked at second story as after having been inspired to buy my stay there I now work as a peer support coach with front street incorporated It's a community-based mobile support system and it's helpful to many but there's talk of transforming second story Into this sort of program, but I tell you it is not the same thing The atmosphere of second story. It's a crucial element In the availability of this dynamic Mental health service that our county needs. I just want to support it and need to stay open. Thank you. Thank you Thank you for sharing. Good morning. Welcome Good morning. My name is Adrian Bernard. Hello again. I hope it's a wonderful day and thank you for everything that you all do I Have um, I have a paperwork here that talks about it's a response to the Q&A that are a couple of people in our advocacy group Have written so I'm gonna offer this to you There's one thing that is not absolutely accurate is confirmation about PEI money being able to be spent to fund second story We're still we're certain that it is possible But that it's not we say confirmed and we'll have final confirmation within the next couple of weeks about that and we'll be reaching out to you for that I Also, I think that that's what I want to say and I just want to say also to clear the record with with Our involvement in building the new program is is an is a matter of necessity people need to work So we are we are moving forward with building this program and and we don't do things halfway as best We can we're gonna offer excitement and energy to create something We we need the house and it's the most important element to have this sanctuary for ourselves as a team and are having for our community I think that it's incredibly important to be aware of the national spotlight being on Santa Cruz right now for this for this Current dilemma that we're facing peer respite houses are growing model. There's now 34 in the state Sorry, there's not 34 in the nation and worse and they're still continuing to flourish and grow on another note With I'm gonna stop about second story there and talk about the FAA and the flight path and and things of that sort I think it's incredibly important that that we have board representation on in those meetings and discussion with FAA So that we are actually we have strength coming from this important matter Also change the flight lanes if we can Thank you. Good morning. Welcome. Thank you for waiting Hi, my name is Dana Watts and I'm speaking on the behalf of second story a couple years ago I was dealing with psychosis and it caused me to hear voices and have hallucinations and And but ever since I've been at the rest at the at the house, it's really been another home for me To me just going to someone's house that they're already living at and talking to them isn't the same because what if they're in distress at their home environment? I feel like it's an alternative to the hospital or their home environment Before I had this community I was isolating Second story has helped me cope with my voices Showing me ways to be friends with my voices It's not only Like another home to me. It's it's not the same as someone just coming to your house or coming to a coffee shop and Talking in and talking to you. It's it's someone that can has experienced mental illness who actually can talk to you or Really understand what you're saying and not have Someone that doesn't experience that on day-to-day basis to come talk to you. It just isn't the same. Thank you. Thank you Good morning. Welcome back Good morning everybody. My name is Teresa. Toma. I'm from the Small Business Development Center at Cabrillo College I'm here on a different theme. I'm here to thank you for your funding of our program I work closely with Barbara Mason and she has enabled me to receive $29,000 of funding from you every year I'm here to tell you where that money has been invested in the community and I have handouts for each of you if I may And there's also a packet for you So you each have an individual packet here with a story of a client in your constituency area whom we've helped through your funding we pool your Funding with many different funding sources from the federal government from the state of California and also From the county's Workforce Development Board layoff aversion program where despite this current white-hot economy We're still seeing small businesses who are struggling and might possibly be laying off employees In order to stay afloat. So we go in and do very in-depth analysis to help them not layoff employees I want to just talk briefly about last year in the fiscal year. We helped 330 local small businesses We provided over 2,300 hours of free-of-charge free-of-charge one-on-one counseling to those businesses presented 30 workshops to over 650 attendees We are very much governed by the results that our counseling Produces with our clients. So we measure very carefully baseline data Last year alone. We helped our clients in this county grow their sales by 23 24 million dollars That's a good multiplier for you relative to tax generation We helped create 248 jobs the most Stood that the most profound statistic is that we helped our clients get over 9.3 million dollars in loans We all know that capital investments the number one reason for business success So we're really proud of that so we feel you're we are a good investment for you And we are very grateful for your investment, and I have also developed a new Guideline for checklists for going into business. Thank you miss to my thanks. That was really fast. Oh my thank you Good morning. Thank you for waiting. Thank you I'm here. Oh, my name is Mia Della Rosa. I'm here to speak on behalf of second story Almost two and a half years ago. I truly believed I would never again gain Well attain gainful employment Let's see by surrounding myself with people who believed in me and not alone wanted me to become a better Mia Let's see. Oops. I lost my page here. I'm sorry I not only became a better Mia, but I am now a counselor a peer counselor at the second story Sure, I put in most of the footwork But I've surrounded myself with those people However, you know what they say it takes a village I would like to make you aware that this morning you are the most important part of that village Folks this couldn't be more true throughout the gambit of mental health from the treaters and the Providers to the family's and of the patients. So I ask you to please help us save our story. Thank you. Thank you Good morning. Welcome. Good morning. I'm Kathleen almond We have to stop and think we have to think about what was the purpose of the second story The purpose of the second story was to save money for the county and Because once a person gets sick, they're critical will the hospital will take them We take them before they become critical so that we can prevent them from going to the hospital and then if the hospital is full they get sent to another county and To be able to get this far and then made flat as a pancake would be ridiculous. That's my question. Thank you. Thank you Good morning. Thank you for waiting Thank you. Hi, my name is Tracy Kennedy and I'm here in support of second story. I just wanted to reiterate that it's an important program for the county very important for the mental health system And I also wanted to ask if anyone in the audience is Unable to speak but here in support of second story if you could raise your hand So just wanted to give you guys an idea that there are people here I'm supporting us that for whatever reason are unwilling to speak to you. So thank you very much. Thank you Good morning. Welcome All right, good morning Come in here today to speak on victorious Alexander's behalf This is a letter that he sent for the for the da on date 9 6 18 I was aware I had court a court date which I had very intensive intending. Unfortunately I had an urgent unexpected health matter which required me to seek immediate medical care At dominican hospital. I'm writing you to verify I did my best under these circumstances to inform the court of this urgent circumstances by one I phoned the clerk's office and provided information that I was at the hospital to I arrived at 3 p.m. To the courthouse following my release from the hospital Three I provided a copy of the doctor's note which is here to the da Due to my health financial and homeless circumstances I am struggling with matters of hardship health and life challenges Faced by the low socioeconomic population. I do my best to emotionally rise above these hardships each day I appreciate your understanding That the health concerns were urgent and beyond my control I respectfully ask that the court date be rescheduled sincerely. So victor has a you know, we know that that's an excusable Reason for being not missing your court date and and he did everything that he said here Not to have a bench warrant and one was issued anyway And I would just say that uh, if we're not serving justice and god's will You know, who's will are we serving, you know, and and I take it very serious I I I have you know, I I get very angry it induces it provokes It's provoking to know that the judges and the da's can bend the law to serve, you know, their own will We may not like the way everybody, uh Approaches things but but we still have to remember it's justice for all and uh Thank you. Thank you Good morning. Thank you for waiting My name is bill miller and I'm from so cal And I'm here to affirm the support, uh, Santa Cruz's involvement with the south bay round table participating in the round table Facilitates us moving forward to resolve the flight noise issue and pursuing a path that we all agree upon At the select committee meetings The round table is our contact to the fa to voice our concerns And to give them feedback as per our agreed method for noise issue reduction The select committee at the time of the agreement we we we agreed to have feedback to minimize the impact of moving the flight To back to a modified path This round table provides that forum The concerns from affected groups can be erred and resolved We have no other forum now and to address to address issues or to resolve issues as we move forward Um, I recommend voting for agenda items. Uh, 6014 Uh agenda item 6037 was written by members who opposed the select committee recommendations And the process moving forward. I believe they want to stop the process forward Uh, they want to do over and throw out years of work that we had done and and that we voted for For example 2016 the month after the committee's recommendations were made The authors brought an item to the board to oppose the decision by the select committee and they were voted down Further uh, further they recently met at the forming of the south bay committee Opposing santa cruises representation to the round table Now they want to be our representatives For the round table. I I believe it's not beneficial to have members Who opposed the process represent the county? I recommend no on agenda number 6037 Thank you And and mr. Miller just to note that we have uh that item is scheduled for 10 30 people are welcome to speak on it now However, you we are going to hear the item at 10 30 and people have an opportunity to speak on it then So you wouldn't be allowed to speak again. This is generally for people who won't be able to stay Um, so I just wanted to make sure that don't don't apologize It was actually appropriate to speak now just note that you can't speak again when this item comes But if people are here for that item, we're going to have a whole hearing on that item at 10 30 So that would be the time if you're going to stay. Thank you, mr. Miller Good morning. Thank you for waiting. Good morning My name is an steinloff. I live in sokel. I'm also here to speak about the Flight Thing and the roundtable So i'm here to support the agenda 6014 So after three years of organizing planning meetings all over the county From the west side sokel the summit scott's valley felton And months of driving to palo alto Were finally the democratic select committee voted democratically To resolve the jet flight issues for the bay area And now We have to battle this whole thing over again with the board mr. McPherson and mr. mccoonerty mr mccoonerty Have you been the last three years? Where have you been the last three years? I don't recall I don't believe having seen you at the huge sam far meetings nor at any palo alto meetings I missed you at the panetta meetings as well for that matter I haven't seen you at any local meetings gatherings or demonstrations And what really stands out for me mr. Mcoonerty and mr. McPherson Is your opposition to the select committee decisions? Your efforts to oppose these decisions failed at the december 2016 meeting board meeting Then as a major affront to all of us affected by jet noise mr. McPherson and mr. mccoonerty You send a letter to the fa december 11th 2017 Claiming that the select committee decisions eight to four in favor of bsr Overlay is not good enough to return to the 40-year legacy bsr flight path You want to fix in place? Well, there's no such thing Surfer thank you Possible to thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning. Thank you for allowing me to speak. My name is patrick lovejoy My home which I built myself is directly under the surfer three flight path I chose that area because it had been quiet Previously I lived in the san lorenzo valley, but I moved because the echoing car noise during the commutes was becoming unbearable I never noticed the jet noise there probably because it was an optimized descent profile Or was drowned out by the car noise The unannounced move of flight pass by the faa has resulted in over three years of bombardment by noise from speed braking and jet engines Unlike the legacy big sur route jets on surfer do not use optimized profile Hence it's far louder than the big sur route ever was In fact, the recent change to surfer three is even worse than surfer one Throughout all this time john leopold has been working hard to understand this issue and to work for solutions He knows all the terminology statistics propose solutions and all the key personnel involved in this problem I have full confidence in him and I support his item 60 14 and urge you to appoint him as our representative to the round table On the other hand, mr. McPherson and coonerty have demonstrated a misunderstanding of the circumstances and solutions Basing their opinion on fear tactics promoted by a small contingent of poorly informed constituents in san lorenzo valley The record shows that historically san lorenzo valley posted only one noise complaint about big sur in 2014 The proposal 60 37 states that the two-thirds majority of the select committee to return to the legacy bsr is quote the most minimal margin This bad faith attempt to minimalize a 66 and two-thirds percent majority Demonstrates their intent to undo the hard work of the select committee Our congressional representatives and hundreds of hours and miles driven to meetings lost work and dollars Expended by members of our community to reach a solution equitably. Thank you And again as a reminder, uh, please if we could um that item will be heard at 10 30 So if you're here for that item and you can stay, please speak to it at 10 30 if you can't this is appropriate Good morning. Welcome back Good morning. Kevin Collins. I wasn't anticipating coming down here this morning But uh colleagues request that I do so i'm addressing the PG&E issue As most of you probably know by now there's a battalion strength encampment in scott's valley There are probably 25 boom trucks equal number of other support vehicles totaling Probably a hundred Trucks This isn't on top of the already existing staging areas that uh, davie tree has established around the county anyway, so It's a big deal. Obviously. They ignored the request this board made on the 23rd of september I think it was when you asked them to have meetings to explain the project I've come here before to point out that uh, nothing that Uh Is being proposed by PG&E does anything to do to handle the issue of fire ignitions from downed wires When those wires fall, they continue snap arcing at 12 to 22 and a half thousand volts until linemen arrives on site with a stick to pull a switch That's how antique this network is Continuing to cut these trees isn't going to have any effect on fire Safety in this mountain range and that map was designed specifically to point out the areas where Fires are most likely to be ignited by utility equipment specifically the sequel exemption that the commission the PUC has claimed claims that there is no project Well, this no project extends across thousands of square miles of the state of california innumerable Uh streams and river riparian areas and stream crossings. It's quite amazing I've never seen the likes of it before and I hope the board continues to assist with this issue because people like me Could have our property decimated. I live on a one lane Private road 30 well, I have to stop now. Thank you very much. Thank you Good morning. Good morning. Thank you for waiting morning. Thank you My name is john deets. Um, I have 27 years of personal experience sustaining the housing of family member with a mental diagnosis I'm here to speak to two professional experiences and a recommendation related to second story respite house Second story has been in operation for seven years as the peer support facility that is unique In creating trusted family relationship between peers that seems to be the point that's being missed The peers that have common lived experience of major behavioral issues to problem solving as a trusted family So they do it as a group I'm the leader and organizer of the volunteer housing navigators that have housed over 50 homeless 50 percent of which are participants in the county behavioral health program We have five years of operational experience Of those participants that have experienced second story 100 percent have successfully stayed housed Our program has an overall 50 retention rate 20 percent below the standard So i'm a witness to the success of second story there's also Um, a business view of second story the county has raised 150 million second story salaries over the past seven years housed They have a house of a respectable neighborhood financed by ch ffa That lacked years to secure the county is uh Invested in specialized IPS training for 16 staffers 22 classes for 22 community organizations And the county cannot raise 700 thousand per year to sustain this operation So closing second story is a uninformed business decision that will cost the county more than it saves It's going to destroy a peer support model that keeps the homeless house and replace it with a model That lacks a home and community My team and I recommend thank you that the board of supervisors demand 700k from the county cao. Thank you. Thank you Good morning Thank you all for waiting My name is patrice silviak. I am here also in support of second story I am director of community services for front street and Um Supervise a supported housing program So I have seen firsthand over and over since second story came on board The success the impact that it has made on the clients who are living in our housing the supported housing program probably a quarter of the attendance that we house Utilize that program and they come away with nothing but positive reinforced support systems sense of self empowerment And second story is one of the it's a very unique option in the spectrum of services for the community I once Was the director of the social rehab programs which we lost that impact has been felt We maybe lost those about eight years ago that impact has been felt And they've never been able to be replaced and so keeping it up and running versus Trying to get something going again in the future. I think is a much better option We all need a place of respite. This is this is a place that many individuals It's the only place for people to go to they may be living with a housemate that is having difficulty And um, it's very hard. It's rough living with that person Where can a person go in a situation like that? Second story is where we sent where where people often find themselves to get a little respite to get a little piece So they can sustain their own mental health stability while You know experiencing someone else in close quarters who is having trouble with theirs as well as if they're having difficulty with their own Second story is a safe place. It's empowering. It's very respected within the mental health community It's an option that's very unique in this community and they've done a fabulous job. We really depend on them. Thank you Good morning and welcome back Good morning My name is Rebecca Mills. I'm speaking about the closure of the second story house I've worked there for over two years as an on-call counselor The announcement in late august the second story would be closing at the end of november came as a shock to guests staff and the community This decision was made without any input from those people Um, and this is troubling and continues to be traumatizing Second story staff have been told they must abandon a community environment They have built that has produced results for eight years and pioneer an entirely new and different program with completely different job Responsibilities as news of this decision has spread. There has been an outpouring of support to keep the respite house Discarding this program and replacing it with a completely different service is risky A residential peer respite has a proven impressive record of benefits and guest satisfaction The new field-based program without a residential component is an experiment a completely different service with an unknown set of potential benefits Without the residential option We can expect to see increased costly and ineffective psychiatric hospitalizations and other outcomes Including homelessness substance abuse and suicide The bulk of the respite house budget is in personnel and salaries Do the cost savings of preserving jobs but eliminating the house justify the loss and risk of this transition? In the mental health system, it is sustainable to hospitalize people in a traumatic environment with an enormous cost But a low chance of recovery Yet not sustainable to provide a much less costly prevention oriented alternative that allows people to attain and regain wellness This needs to change I ask for your support to create the time before closing this program To truly allow every possible option to be explored not behind closed doors as has been done But with the participation of affected community members and important stakeholders. Thank you Thank you. Good morning Thank you for waiting I can't stay till later. I just wanted to come and say my name is gloria wells I live in soquel hills And our family has been on the same parcel for now over 100 years I have camped and hiked all over the santa cruz mountains And so I do realize what the jet noise was like In the castle rock and san lorenzo valley prior to this switch Uh, I did not experience much in the way of jet noise when I camped at castle rock So now with this change to the new flight path I would encourage both macpherson and courtey to visit the castle rock state park and listen to the magnitude of the jet noise that comes overhead Please I understand that you do not want that kind of noise in your neighborhood either But if you go back to the old route, there was not much noise And with the improved flight path that they faa promised and committed to That they would put the flight path even higher over the san lorenzo valley that you should please Have some compassion for us in the soquel hills and over by castle rock To see what we're being impacted with. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning Hi, my name is carol pain and I live in district five Right under the flight path. I can't stay and I have to leave at 10 30 So I wanted to simply tell you that you have a lot of constituents in the mountains Who adamantly disagree with your stance? Mr. McPherson on this matter. Thank you Thank you Good morning Thank you for waiting Good morning back a steinbrunner resident of aptos hills. I want to first protest again The censorship that your board has approved by consolidating all of this public comment Both consent Non-agenda and agenda items and further reducing it to two minutes. I would like to know mr. Palacio What strategic plan element does this action serve? I would like to also further mr. Collins is concerned about this scott's valley pg&e base camp I would like your board to meet with Public works director mr. machado And urge a stop work order for all of this It will imperil the mountain roads by removing clear-cutting these areas and can cause the county and its residents severe financial harm and danger I want to also point out that thank you for Supporting proper state proposition one I'm wondering why you're not supporting proposition two as well. It's a good housing bill as well I want to point out that in supporting proposition three you are Also giving priority to critically overdrafted areas for groundwater and stormwater capture I want to tell you there is a cheaper way than pure water so cal's 200 million dollar project And the water will begin flowing from the north coast streams this winter The infrastructure is in place and we don't have to have that risky very expensive project The water advisory commission there are 29 changes to code In this uh consent agenda one of them is to the water advisory commission that removes the words Specifically advised the board of supervisors on formulation review update and implementation of the county water plan That does not serve you you've got people on that board With also changing the different numbers of service connections that they can be representing They're there to advise you they're out in the field and they know don't support this change It will not serve the public well. Thank you And just as a matter of correction from a statement that was made we did not consolidate all comment on regular agenda items You can still speak to regular agenda items during the regular agenda The point of this is if you couldn't stay for the regular agenda. This gives you an opportunity So it's more convenient next person, please it's been explained a couple times already Okay, but that isn't actually what she just said so good morning. Welcome. Hello. I'm john cowan I also live in north scott's valley And I want to tell you that this uh new uh Rate her route that the the plains take is very annoying mornings, they come over every minute and a half Afternoons every minute and a half, but what's most annoying of all Is uh at one o'clock in the morning the cargo planes come over and they They're heavies and and they put on their speed brakes and it rattles the windows and wakes people up We need to get the f a to come up with something that uh Respects the the people that are underneath their flight pass and I'm a pilot I I know why they're doing what they're doing but um They're they're just not taking into consideration what what people need in order to uh Retain that the comfortable place that they that they've always lived My request is that you point uh Supervisor leopold for the meeting coming up. Thank you Thank you. Good morning Thank you for waiting I'm good morning. My name is cindy. Um, I'm a peer guest and community member of second story I have struggled with mental health for most of my life. I'm a survivor of trauma many times Um are my times of extreme psychological crisis or life threatening and directly related to my trauma In january of this year. I had a serious suicide attempt that I almost did not survive After leaving local health facilities my life was still in danger and I had no supportive environment To help me get through this crisis Second story peer respite house was suggested to me as a place with trauma informed care and understanding This peer community is like a garden where other peers can show up Get their feet dirty plant the seeds of hope and new perspectives Be watered with acceptance and non judgment from the peer team because of their lived experience and recovery Given the shining sun of peer support and reflection and a deep rooted connection to this irreplaceable community As a peer you become a seedling in this garden and you can return home Knowing that the garden is there growing surviving all the elements and thriving And you become a member of the second story community a flower in the garden You know that you are not alone. You are connected to something your roots become interwoven into the fabric of the garden The community I do not have any friends or family locally In second story has become my chosen family A place where I can be me all of me a place where I can make mistakes and learn from them A place to explore the power and strength found in connection to others that are willing to see me and put me And not put me in a clinical box value They value my contributions to the house and the community and I'm not only a flower in the second story garden I'm one that is cherished, which is not something I've experienced much in my life being seen heard valued and truly cherished Second story has saved my life many times in the last six months by accepting and welcoming me into their Home as a peer. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for sharing Good morning. Welcome so many Policies are taking place that benefit corporate interests and not the public I heard that the reason the flight patterns are so low Is that they want to make more space at higher levels for the drones and the military aircraft? and the It's not only the noise, but I want to remind you I have this acoustic meter that detects microwave radiation from different sources And my friend who lives in the mountains Under the flight pattern And this is what these frequencies sound like on this acoustic meter every time the planes go over This gets on a high reading and her full spectrum analyzer does this well These post modulated frequencies are extremely hazardous And I see there's a Forum with the telecom industry with Bruce McPherson moderating tonight six days at the Felton community hall With the providers With not having anyone on that forum who's talking about the adverse biological effects Taking the word of the telecom Industry is like believing the tobacco industry on the safety of their products I'm going to give you a cd of martin paul I interviewed professor emeritus school of molecular biosciences Sciences, uh, washington state university And uh, there are numerous scientific papers on oxidation stress and inflammation It's called how dangerous is non ionizing radiation. He talks about these pulse modulations I have a few other copies if someone wants it ask me You know, this is a hazardous technology. You've been made for repeatedly. Thank you Good morning. Good morning. Good morning. My name is eddie. I live in uh district five and I'm here to talk about the jets and the noise as well. I'm not gonna Go on about I think everyone knows that they're very loud They rattle the windows at one in the morning people sleep with their plugs. They, you know, can't sleep anymore I think, you know, my comments today really I want I wanted to empower you. I mean with the call to action I do request that That um supervisor leopold said on the on the fa round table. He seems to be I see him in the community I see him listening and I see him helping us take our agenda forward But really the call to action is I don't understand why other communities like newport beach Phoenix, arizona are making are gaining ground on having the flight plans less noisy for their communities and having them move back to other flight patterns that were still conducive for the airline and yet less imposing this sound Attack on the people that live under them. It seems like other communities are figuring it out and you know Here in the san francisco bay area and including santa cruz San Mateo and santa claire counties and san francisco county We're supposed to be world leaders in things like technology and things like this and I don't understand why we Don't have a ballot why a ballot measure to not allow the airlines to You know, basically move their trash, you know on our heads I just don't understand why we're not taking more of a leadership role Why we're just kind of rolling over and going with you know, um, Whatever our little local agendas are. I mean we have recommendations by the select committee We should be taking a leadership role and helping those push forward And you know with constant communication with the fAA and updates and I mean I just I don't get it your your constituents are really suffering You've heard it every meeting people come up here and tell you how we're suffering And and it's like we're just going too slow guys We need to we need to really take a leadership role in this and make sure that we can put things back to a Win-win for everybody. This isn't you know, nobody really loses Other than the people that are suffering under under this noise right now. So thank you for listening. All right. Thank you All right, we will close the public comment period and now Do the consent agenda are there We'll start with supervisor capitals or anything you'd like to pull or discuss on consent Okay, supervisor McPherson. Yeah on item 27. I want to thank you chair friend for consigning this request to support proposition three As stated in the resolution california highly Highly susceptible and santa christ counties, especially Susceptible and impacted because of our water is locally generated generated all of it We have two overdrafted groundwater basins And proposition three would assist us the counties and throughout the state and water supply and water quality priorities As well as fish habitat protection In addition to several of our other water agencies scott's valley so called creek and power row valley Proposition three is supported by the california state association of counties and the league of california cities So I thank your support. Thank you for your support and for the board for Hopefully supporting this request to support proposition three. Thank you. Supervisor McPherson morning supervisor coonerty Hi, good morning Just two items comment on or one one item to comment on one for a further direction First is an item number 26 Chair friend and I brought forward this initiative to support prop one and I hope the community does as well We face a housing crisis and this state money in combination with potential local money And some new policies can help You know maintain our the vibrancy of our community where we can continue to have teachers and and law enforcement and social workers and people who Who have grown up in this community stay in this community? Through having affordable housing the second item to talk about is item number 34 This i'm really happy to see this is a significant expansion Of drug treatment options in our community through a contract with janice I'd like to add the following direction Which is that hsa add the following performance measures to the contract Number one the number of clients who remain sober six months post treatment And number two the number of nights that residential treatment beds go unfilled So in other words the occupancy of these beds. I think this will help us give us a sense as to how well we are Providing this important resource to this community Thank you. Good morning. Supervisor leopold. Good morning chair I just have a one item that i'll say something about Which is item number 19 It's a recommendation of the mobile home commissioned To remain that their Rate of return for qualified mobile home park improvements remain at 12 I just wanted to use this opportunity to thank the members of the mobile home commission For their job in representing The thousands of people that live in mobile home parks Throughout santa cruz county The commissioners take an active role not only in representing the needs of individuals In parks, but they also advocate With our legislators To ensure that we have good legislation that protects the rights of mobile home Residents And i'm hopeful that this board will be able to recognize assemblymember mark stone Who recently passed legislation to give an actual way for mobile home park residents to To use to have an a form where the mobile home law Can be honored and adjudicated The commission has done a great job in doing this Locally, but we need the help of a statewide agency in order to make it successful So I just wanted to call that out And this item and i'm just very proud of the work of the mobile home And manufactured home commission. Thank you for sharing that supervisor leopold just Real briefly item 25 on supervisor kundi's item just a small typo It's tim gubbins not grubbins just to make sure that we get that correct in the in the letter and I have No additional Changes is there a motion for the agenda amended agenda? I'd move the consent agenda as amended We have a motion from supervisor leopold a second from supervisor kundi all those in favor I opposed It passes unanimously We'll move on to item six the first item of the regular agenda Which is a public hearing to consider a report on the 2019 growth goal and refer to the matter of the planning commission for consideration and recommendation of the board and continue the public hearing To establish the 2019 growth goal to december 11th 2018 is recommended by the planning director. We have a report On the year 2019 growth goal Morning. Thank you both for waiting Good morning We're here to have the annual discussion on setting the growth goal for the county And I have the pleasure this morning of introducing Stephanie hansen who will give the board's Report Stephanie is the principal planner who will be managing the sustainability and special projects group in the planning department Good morning chair friend members of the board The county's growth management system was instituted in 1979 following the adoption of measure j To address the resource and public services impacts of population growth in santa cruz county As part of the growth management system each year the county is required to set an annual growth goal For the upcoming year the 2019 growth goal report is before you today For consideration prior to referral to the planning commission This report examines areas factors used in establishing the 2019 growth goal for the unincorporated area As noted in the report during the calendar year 2017 The unincorporated areas population increased at an estimated annual growth rate of point zero seven percent The county as a whole grew slightly faster at point One three percent in california's population grew at an annual rate of point seven eight percent By comparison the annual growth rate in 2016 for the unincorporated county was point two nine percent The county of the whole as a whole was point two eight percent and the state was Point eight two percent indicating a recent downward trend in population growth rates The growth goal report also summarizes the current status of the 2018 residential building permit allocations as shown on page three of the board membo As of august 1st 31 market rate units have been allocated out of the 261 allocations available for 2018 Plus there are 233 carryover allocations available leftover from 2017 We anticipate that there will be more than sufficient permits available for the remainder of this year Based on analysis of population growth trends resource constraints and the current permit allocation status The 2019 growth goal report recommends continuing The point five percent growth goal that was established for 2018 This would result in a residential building permit allocation of 256 market rate units for this for the upcoming year Which would be distributed by urban and rural areas at a two-to-one ratio the same as in past years The 2019 growth goal report also recommends as in previous years that the unused market rate allocations from 2018 be carried over to 2019 In accordance with policy 3.2 of the general plan Housing element and added to the 256 permit allocations This would result in a projected total of 464 market rate allocations available for two 2019 Staff has found that the establishment of the 2019 growth goal report is exempt under the california environmental quality act And a category goal exemption will be prepared Staff therefore recommends to the board One open the public hearing to consider the report on the year 2019 growth goal Two refer this matter to the planning commission for consideration and recommendation to the board Three continue the public hearing to establish the 2019 growth goal on december 11 2018 with direction to planning staff to return with the recommendation of the planning commission and a Resolution for final action by the board This concludes our presentation. We'd be happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you. Thank you Are there any brief questions from board members sub-visual? Thank you chair. Thank you for the report I just had a question Is assisted living or memory care facilities? Do they count towards the residential? Permits they do okay because I you know what we In soquel there is They've held community meetings for three projects that could Use our entire allocation of 172 and those three projects the The oakmont project in soquel on the interlite ministry site the 17 homes and across the street and the 102 homes on the by right housing that That the board allocated Several years back and so I think that we have a we will see this year how close we get to Reaching the max as that's a what I just described is all taking place within one block In soquel so it's a lot of development in one area So i'll be very curious to see how we end up the year And this this could be a year in which we get close Thank you any other questions So vice president christening have a question yeah, I Not a question so much as uh, this is going to be a real tough pull as we know This last year we didn't build more than 200 of the units that were Authorized in our goal And I think the same thing can be seen to set for ambag and a regional basis and all too And I just read a recent story From the Associated Press I believe that we needed to build in the state of california Just to show this is not just a county concern that we have 165 housing units statewide To meet the basic need of Of housing need of people in california and only 85 000 of those were built so In recent years two generations people have really tried to have slow growth no growth Ideas and that has greatly changed today to meet the needs of the people of Of sanikers county, and I do hope that all of our 464 housing units and some of those that would really Apply to some of those that are greatest need and assisted living for instance Supervisor leopold just mentioned That we're they'll be built and we can demonstrate that we are really serious about Providing adequate housing and at the same time protecting our environment sanikers county But we have a huge issue in sanikers county. We have a huge issue in housing in the state of california All right, but this this is a public hearing chair. I just just wanted for my colleagues Edification in addition to the 200 nearly 200 that I mentioned there's another 71 affordable units in live oak Which are going to be they're going to propose application doesn't count towards this goal So we're trying very hard to meet the need All right, let's see advisor cap it. I'll just make a quick comment on We're including a migrant camp housing also affordable housing does not De-restricted affordable housing does not have to have an allocation in order to go forward So that would not that would not need one of these 464 identified permit allocations, but it does provide housing And some relief just like the ad use are not Included also in the report Correct, right. So I I guess the only caution I would have is A knee jerk reaction where we're going all of a sudden When the recession was here, we didn't do much building at all, you know, we didn't do anything hardly and then now Times have changed and then it's like we're going to build all kinds of units and we're going to What i'm getting at is we we do have to protect what we have It's a beautiful county and It's becoming very unaffordable for a lot of people, especially middle class and lower So I guess All i'm saying is we have to Look at the environment Protecting what we do have as far as our environment and also build housing And and also protect farmland. So I mean we we have to be very careful. This is a big issue We do have to address it But at the same time we have to protect what we have and make sure that Santa Cruz county remains one of the most beautiful places in the world to live All right, this is a public hearing. We'd like to open up the public hearing It's a member for opportunity for members of the community to address us on this item Is anybody like to address us? Thank you. Becky Steinbruner resident of the Aptos Hills I looked through the report and saw the tally of the adu numbers And from 2000 to Application from 2000 to current and noted that the highest number of applications was for my area the Aptos Hills Second highest was live oak And then the summit So we're seeing more and more people wanting to put adus out in the rural areas And I support creating affordable options for people and for homeowners being able to Get a bit of income to to pay their property taxes What i'm seeing missing in this report is what is supposed to be there the assessment of the cumulative impacts of traffic Water public views and environmentally sensitive areas. I don't see anything about that in this report And I did look through it quickly. Maybe i've missed it But I think that issue needs to be addressed especially having this level of Increased impact in the rural areas on mountain roads and sensitive environmental areas I also want to draw to your attention that there is on the planning commission's Agenda for next wednesday a continued public hearing for the density bonus program That is being put forth by the planning department that would reduce a lot of the Green space traffic parking requirements Allow greater height greater floor space area of ratio of buildings and I want to Thank you supervisor cappett for saying that we've got a Yes, we've got to provide places for people to live But we've got to provide a quality of life and maintain a quality of life and protect our beautiful place That we all love and this why we're here and pay special attention to the infrastructure that is needed to support growth One of the issues being proposed recommendations in this density bonus is that developers would be allowed to delay The payment of their impact fees until after the units are built and occupied. That's backwards These fees are meant to help offset and prepare for the impacts of their development Not not do something afterwards or maybe not even at all I also want to draw to your attention in the San Jose mercury news yesterday. There was a very interesting article about what may be the first legal challenge of The sp35 where If a certain project meets the state guidelines, it cannot be denied And I think we have to be very careful about something like that happening And guard our quality of life and the environment that we all treasure here. Thank you Thank you anybody else on this item Okay, we'll close the public hearing and bring back to the board for action Second we have a motion from supervisor kundry a second from supervisor leopold all those in favor I opposed it passes unanimously. I imagine we can do item seven very briefly Yes, okay, we'll do item seven, which is consider ordinance amending bear with me on this chapters 1.010608 and 2.02030406 10 12 18 24 40 42 45 54 56 58 60 64 70 78 80 90 92 96 and 2.117 121 122 and 124 of the Santa Cruz county code to address miscellaneous code provisions Correct typographical errors and update agency titles and statutory references to return to the next Available agenda for final adoption is outlined in the memo of county council We have the ordinance queen copy and the strikeout underline and for all the updates and all the exhibits Chair you may want to consider going into the auction business. I was going to Nobody yelled bingo and I thought I won on that right there Mr. Heath are you here to present? I am good morning. Good morning. Jason Heath from county council's office What you have before you is a draft ordinance to update the county code We don't think this has ever been done before look from beginning to end In one setting that is probably going to take a couple of years to accomplish It is We're starting with chapters one and two In volume one and then we're going to be moving through Continuing to move through chapters one and two These are not all the changes that need to be major chapters one and two You're going to see more in the coming months. Then we're going to move sequentially through Chapters three four up through uh 12 If you have any questions, I'm happy to answer them I'm also interested in any feedback you might have if you Think that there's a better way for us to present these changes to you A more usable way We're trying to basically the whole point of this is to try to update the county code to make it more readable To update statutory references to correct typographical errors and the like It made sense to me. I appreciate the brief presentation any questions to vizier leopold. Thank you chair Thank you for the information and presentation Yesterday I had the pleasure of sitting in with several members of county council in a discussion about this very item I had come about something else, but I was very glad to see that the The connection between the board's full support For submission to the human rights campaign municipal quality index and In the course of that conversation we were talking about the question of gender identification And I want to recommend that we that as we start this that we Change the the his and her to there Um, which I think is more appropriate given our Evolving sense of of how we talk about gender and I think that should be reflected in In our county code And so, uh, I think in a conversation that you said that if we make that change for these One and two sections that it has to come back to us. Yeah, that would be an easy fix and um, what you could do is Make a motion to have me make that change and come bring this exact package back to you next week for first reading And so instead of saying the the the ceo or his or her designee, it would say the ceo and their designee issues like that Help us move beyond the binary in terms of gender gender identification And is more inclusive to everybody As to how they identify themselves and I would hope that the board could support that All right, well, we'll open it up to the community now. Are there any questions on this on this item? You actually already spoke to this item When you addressed this item during the initial comment period I spoke to one of the changes, but there are others that I did not speak to because I only had two minutes But I do want to protest that the ability of the water commission Ms. Steinbrenner, you spoke to this item already. Please Please You're you're starting to disrupt the meeting ms. Steinbrenner So please All right ms. Steinbrenner Thank you. Is there anybody else I'd like to address this that hasn't spoken to this item yet All right, so you know I'll bring back to the board So I would make the motion to direct county council To make the changes in language to uh, uh, that doesn't uh refer specifically to to uh To gender and keep it more neutral and to come back with a revision Second, okay next meeting. All right. We have a motion from supervisor. We have pulled in a second from supervisor. Coonerty Ms. McCrae you had something briefly I just want to say that this work has been on a list of mine for a very long time and i'm very grateful that jason picked it up Well, I see how things Run down to your deputy there We have a motion and a second all those in favor I opposed it passes unanimously the board will take a short 10 minute break because we have a 10 30 scheduled item Just for those that are here for the 10 30 item We're going to combine items eight and nine since they're Related and just hear it all as one item. We'll see you back here in 10 minutes We're going to move on to our 10 30 Scheduled item just as a brief What that the 10 30 schedule item is a combined item eight and nine I'll just briefly read them just so you can be aware what they are Item eight is considerate consider adoption of a resolution to join provide funding for and appoint representatives to the Santa Clara Santa Cruz County's airport community round table is outlined in the memo of supervisor leopold He has the resolution in the letter of city's association of Santa Clara county as well as the letters a letter of congress members issue in panetta And item nine was considered option of resolution to join in a point representatives to the Santa Clara Santa Cruz county's airport community round table with conditions and take related actions as outlined in the memo Of supervisor McPherson and coonerty. They also have a resolution for the community round table with conditions in the city association Inmitation and by-laws We're going to actually start off this morning with andy jordan. We appreciate andy for coming. She's the executive director Of the city's association of Santa Clara County, thank you for being here this morning. Hi, thank you Chair friend and supervisors for inviting me here to discuss with you the proposed round table Again, my name is andy jordan. I'm the executive director of the city's association of Santa Clara county Why form a round table and how did we all get here? I think that you're all pretty aware of this select committee recommendation. I won't go into that But the city's association became involved because we received a congressional request For to help find a long-term solution this congressional request Came also from the select committee recommendation And it is in direct response to community concerns this The congressional representatives were looking for a regional group That is why we were sent the request. We represent the 15 cities of Santa Clara county The ad hoc committee was formed By the board of directors for the city's association and the ad hoc committee consisted of seven members of seven different cities In Santa Clara county, we also invited Representative McPherson and a representative leopold and their staffs who participate In the meetings toward the end the committee met six state times The congressional representatives had requested that we form A that we put together a framework similar to sfo round table our committee, however Decided to look at round tables all across the country So, uh, those are some of the round tables that we looked at but after looking at them the committee decided unanimously that the that we should follow the sfo Round table bylaws as As much as we could if we were going to be working with the sfo airport and the sfo round table The sfo community round table Is the first round table in the country and it is known as a gold standard of round tables um After next gen round tables popped up all across the country and if you go to the fa and want to form a round table Most likely they will tell you to look at sfo sfo is known to uh, the round table is known to mentor other round tables and uh, and how to Work collaboratively together And while i'm not here to speak about the sfo round for the sfo round table or sfo Um, I do believe that they have the respect of the f a with their collaborative Work together and they have shown that when a region works together you can work with the f a The proposed round table um and a round table, uh, we'll go back to king arthur's round table the round table Everyone no matter who they were had one vote The idea was that everyone would learn to work together if they could trust each other So our round table the mission statement is to address community noise concerns and make recommendations to the regional airports and fa on noise related issues So the nuts and bolts of the round table, uh, we have an mo u to form the organization and we would be asking you to sign an mo u The organization is similar to the sfo round table But in order to stand this up We're asking that we self fund it in order to get it off the ground We will work with both the sfo and the san jose airports. We will work with the fa We will hire a consultant and technical support to run the organization Uh, there will be non voting members which will be the airport fa and pilots um organization or representatives Any member may withdraw at any time But they would forfeit their dues if they do not complete the year This serves as a forum for the public Each jurisdiction would have one vote and a simple majority voting except for by-law changes and the by-laws could be reviewed every year and uh for by-law changes, it's a two-thirds of uh of It requires a two-thirds of all members So that would alleviate if you know one side of the one county got sick and And the other all showed up So the funding formula, uh, we looked at sfo to see what their their budget Was and their last few years budgets have been approximately two hundred and eighty thousand dollars So We, uh, tried to we came up with several different proposals and ended up choosing The committee and then the board approved Uh, a structure and it's based on 50 cents for all your 50 cents per capita But for san jose because they're so large 10 percent But as you can see that if for every jurisdiction that, uh, equated to about 700 thousand dollars and we were trying to get to 250 thousand dollars So, uh on the the next screen shows you if every 21 jurisdictions, um participated It's the same ratio, but then it's divided Uh, it's proportionately lowered to reach uh to get to 250 thousand dollars if everyone participated Uh, unincorporated santa cruz county's fee would be about 25 thousand dollars Uh, so but what happens when someone chooses not to participate? So you can see that san jose as highlighted here We remove san jose and then the fee goes up Uh for everyone proportionately So as of today The round table funding, uh, this shows, uh The the jurisdictions that have uh decided to join and those who have not, um There are also spaces for uh, well, I have included camble camble is voting this evening I've included mountain view because I believe they will vote to approve as well So with this scenario, uh, the budget is your budget your fee would be uh close to 42 thousand dollars So lastly, um Why we think this is a good idea and why we are asking, uh, you to join us is that we do have fAA commitment We do have commitment for For moving forward even without all of the jurisdictions Sfo has told us in the sfo round table that the first year that they operated They operated um with only nine nine cities the next year nine more joined Uh, we do have congressional commitment that they will participate Send their staffers. I know that that's important and lastly, um This is the only regional solution that has come forward um to address community concerns And our this the city's association board of directors Um, it was unanimous. Well, it not unanimous. It was 14 to 1 Uh That something needs to be done and we do need to find a place for community concerns to be heard um with that, um I will let you ask questions or Thank thank you for coming by the way today again. Uh, are there any brief questions of miss dordan? I know that we have a lot of people here. They're interested in public testing. Are there any brief questions? Supervisor cap it you had a brief question. I'll make a quick comment We're going to address this problem in situation It comes down to uh, who's going to represent us and also the cost But we are going to address the problem. So What you have to say is very important today you live in the areas that are, you know, greatly impacted South county not so much and So, you know, I really want to hear what you have to say and Our decision is going to be based on who represents our county and how much it will cost us Thank you. Mr. Caput. Thank you, miss dordan. I don't think there are any specific questions of you So you did a great job We're going to turn it over to my colleagues who have each submitted Letters so they can introduce other items to start with supervisor leopold And also, uh, we know there's a lot of people here that are advocating specific sides We want to make sure that everybody feels welcome sort of the degree that we're not clapping and cheering or booing or hissing I mean, we have enough of that at the national level at least at the local level is trying to remember We all live in the same community, right? So to that degree if we can just be respectful throughout this whole process, we'd appreciate it Thank you miss jordan and uh, good morning supervisor leopold again. Thank you Thank you chair and thank you miss jordan for all your work and helping Put together what this round table could look like 5906 5,726 4,891 5,540 6,673 6,335 These are the number of complaints filed each day for the last six days They represent hundreds of people thousands of people who are affected It's a nondiscriminatory Effect that it affects the most vulnerable in our community. It felt it affects the well-off We've heard from so many people about how they've been affected When this started in march of 2015 I would say that uh, I could say my office was unprepared For the number of complaints that would come in I had uh people calling emailing showing up at the office Stopping me in grocery stores And coming to my community meetings As a supervisor, there's not much that we can do around flight path or so I thought at the time I reached out to congressman sam far. He was very receptive Uh to the issues he worked with his colleagues And they had a great vision of setting up the select committee Which was designed to be representative of the affected counties by the new Jet path created by the next gen program In that process In the in the lead up to the select committee and through the select committee I and my staff had to learn a lot about flight path And error technology We had to learn about opd Class b airspace waypoints vectoring dnl I learned to check the ifp gateway on a regular basis And I had to learn a jet path like a big sur surfer bricks Um, and I spent hours during that process Going to meetings On the phone with the faa asking questions Talking to members of the other members of the select committee To try to get a better sense not only of of what we were experiencing and how to ask the right questions But also to understand the impact that that uh the uh the airlines and jet path that had on their communities At the beginning of that process, uh, we agreed on a system in which we were going to make recommendations And in the end the recommendations were made with some core values There was a commitment not just to move the noise someplace else That uh, we wanted to return to a time when we had a lot less complaints about The airspace and we wanted to provide a forum That no matter what the faa did that we could meet with them on a regular basis Since december 16 or november 16 when uh the uh select committee made their recommendations Uh, I or my staff have met with uh Now congressman panetta uh and his staff uh congresswoman eschew and her staff we've been on the phone We've been asking questions We've also reached out to the faa and I've met with them. Um, I've uh, we've written letters We've uh sent emails. We've been trying to find out about what's going on around The faa process. I've gone to washington dc Uh to advocate uh with uh all of our members of congress including our two u.s senators And I held a public I attended a public meeting uh with congressman panetta Just last year And I'm committed to these issues Because rarely a day goes by when someone doesn't come up to me and ask what's going on When will their life return to normal? Why can't the faa just follow the recommendations? What's happening? I've had grown Men and women cry on my shoulder Um, I have I've seen university professors ready to tear their hair out and I've seen, um A lots of regular people who don't can't get sleep who now know with amazing a certainty about the korean Jets that come over with Cargo That can tell you about the number of san francisco la to san francisco flights That come at seven o'clock at night and at ten o'clock at night and at nine o'clock in the morning So when the concept of this round table came up, I was very happy to see it set up We were invited to a meeting before that first meeting. I reached out to supervisor McPherson Um, there didn't seem at that point a lot of interest, but I attended or participated in the First couple of meetings and in fact when the first proposal came out about funding, uh, which was about a hundred thousand dollars I realized that that was never going to fly and santa cruz. We're not santa claire county and my staff suggested some formula of which a A version of this is the one that looks like the The round table has used to have a per capita model At the as that process wore on I reached out to supervisor cunty to find out if there was interest and at that time There, uh, he wasn't ready to deal with that and I respect that people have their their priorities But as we look at the creation of this round table, um, it's one thing is very clear to me Uh, it presents the first opportunity since the select committee to regularly meet with the fAA I saw in that process what a difference it made when you can look Across the table to the fAA when you can develop relationship with staff when they know they're going to see you the next month Um, it does really make a difference um, the activism of the select committee, uh, served as an inspiration for the other round tables, uh, and Uh, um, I think it showed that if a dedicated group of elected officials work hard to ask good questions That we can have an impact on the direction of a federal agency So now as we think about, uh, this joining this round table I think we should be clear about picking who the strongest advocates are I don't think staff should be our advocates because they're very qualified and Dedicated, but they don't they don't use the megaphone in the same way that elected officials use And we should be we shouldn't go in with a defeatist attitude Saying this group isn't going to do anything We should go into an attitude that says how can we make the round table Affect the people in santa cruz county to make their lives better How do I use this process? Uh to make a difference And so I think we should make appointments that that, uh, that can really Advocate for changes that will not just benefit a small group Or a large group, but it should benefit everyone in santa cruz county We were there was a time where we didn't talk about airplane noise in santa in santa cruz county And we should work to return to uh, to that period It is possible the recommendations That we put in the select committee report were an honest attempt to try to to meet those needs Now some will complain that that the fa has said some things are not feasible But that recommendation all the different parts of it Is a belt and suspenders type of recommendation Which means we put a lot of things in it in order to uh have the greatest likelihood That we would have the least amount of impact on our county It was an honest effort and two-thirds of the members of the select committee supported it So I want to share with uh, the uh, my colleagues And uh And everyone here Miss galloway if we could put that, uh, it's up Uh, this is a list using our gis, uh system to look about impacts of the surfer route and the big sur route For those who don't know the big sur route was the historic path in which, um airplanes flew over santa cruz county for decades And the surfer path is the flight that has been in place since 2015 It has gone through a number of iterations. Each one has gotten worse than the one before This is uh, this uh chart tries to look at the number of people who live within a thousand feet of the jet path And within five thousand feet of the jet path and it looks to see Of that who lives how many people live in the unincorporated area? And how many people live in the incorporated area and it uses the census uh block numbers So as you can see there's a very disproportionate effect on the number of people in The unincorporated area and there's particularly felt in the first district where tens of thousands of people are affected This doesn't mean that other people aren't affected And it doesn't mean that, uh, that, uh, these are the only people that should be considered But we make the point about looking at the unincorporated area versus the incorporated area Because every city in santa cruz county has been invited to join this round table and have an equal vote With the county with every other city with the large cities in santa claire county So there's an opportunity for those in the incorporated area To be represented on on this round table The folks in the unincorporated area Don't it's us that the board of supervisors and we should pick representatives that reflect The number of people who are most affected by this And it's so it's no surprise that myself and supervisor mcpherson were the ones asked to serve on the select committee As well as representatives from the city of santa cruz and the city of capitol because they are the greatest affected We should think about that in terms of our appointments. I would encourage the board, uh, to join the round table I think it provides a great opportunity for us to have regular contact with the fa and move, um, the On actions that would help people in santa cruz county And I would appreciate the support of my colleagues for myself and supervisor mcpherson to serve on that group Because I think that our constituents are the one most greatly affected and can't be represented in another way Thank you. Supervisor leopold for the introduction a supervisor So There's a question before us today. It's fairly simple Which is do we join the round table and if we do who do we join? Who do we send to represent us? I will say I am not convinced that the round table is a good Particularly good venue. I think there's an old saying in government It's we used all the time you can see at the federal state and local level that when you have a problem That's difficult to solve instead of solving it you create a round table or a commission or a task force So it gives the sense of action without the consequences of action However, there's a There's there's a real problem and I've said this from the beginning that the impacts being felt by the people Currently under the fight path are completely unacceptable Intolerable and should be alleviated The question for me has always been from the start is if the flight path is going to be moved What studies are we going to do before it's moved? What what protections are we going to have before it's moved to make sure that we aren't simply moving the noise To the other to another part of the county over other people The fAA the big sir flight path will never come back in its old form The fAA has made clear That that's what that's the that's their position. So in the new form How do we know and once it's moved? I think we all know that the idea that the government is going to then study And then remove the flight path again Is highly unlikely. So it's likely to be the permanent It caused permanent impact to people in this community and we just need Some reassurance. I am I am okay with the flight path being moved to a different part of the county if for Geographic reasons if for whatever reasons it's a it's least impactful But I we need the studies to be done ahead of time Now the question before us today is do we form an fAA round table? I think having a voice at a table I'm skeptical when this county of santa cruz with 180 000 people has the exact same vote as monta serena with 3000 people On the round table, however, it's I think it's worthwhile To join to try to have some sort of influence over the fAA Keeping in mind that the fAA was designed with a mandate and a purpose to not be Driven by local government In their decision-making And so I think it's highly unlikely that that much changes But but I think it's worth giving it a shot and trying to do it I would advocate that supervisor McPherson who's one of the Most decorated public servants we've had in santa cruz county history And who has constituents who are currently impacted and likely impacted who also served at the um on the um on the on the steering committee Can't would be a good representative. However, I also think that it's it's we're a small community And if we show up at the round table and the city of santa cruz is Advocating for one thing city capitol is advocating for another thing county of santa cruz is advocating for another thing It's not going to be an effective We won't have an effective voice when we're already considered small and Not as impactful as the entire santa claire valley with all their cities And all their interests So I think over the long run The best thing we can do now is to look at having A county staff member from the ceo's office Represent the county under guidelines that say that the their number one priority is to reduce the impacts on people currently Currently under the flight path, but without moving the noise over to another part of our community They can be fair arbiters and bring the county together to have a united voice And a professional voice at this round table Can I get a sense of how many people are interested in speaking on the item just so we can work on the time issue? I Before we bring it up to the community. Do you want to offer something else? Maybe a question would be On the wording of the we're on eight eight eight a right We're on eight and nine nine eight and nine. They've been combined into one item. Yes. Okay the wording it does say One member and one alternate who are local elected officials To serve on the body does that mean That can't be someone that's not an elected official. So the present There are two separate resolutions before you The resolution from supervisor leopold speaks to it being Elected with a member and alternate as he had mentioned in his presentation For him to be the member and supervisor McPherson to be the alternate under item nine the resolution calls for it to be uh Supervisor McPherson supervisor kundry or a board designee which could include a non-elected official That could so it's up to the board right so it's up to the board to make a determination of which of these resolutions we would like To adopt today. Okay, that's part of the discussion and also I'd like to Say that both of them say to join so the sort of the settled issue is is whether or not the round table would be joined It's a question of representation from the board or from staff And the cost is the same and the cost well As as miss jordan presented the cost is dependent upon the number of of Other municipalities or counties that join Under the current construct It's in the the mid 40 000 range under the construct of everybody joining It's in the around the 25 000 range under a construct of most joining. It's in the 30 000 range So it gives you an idea of At the highest end I would say it's in the mid 40 range and a lowest end It's say in the 25 000 range based on the presentation from miss jordan. Okay. I'll listen to the public first But I did have a comment. I appreciate your passion on this Supervisor leopold And that that isn't important when you're talking but at the same time I'm I'm wondering uh, this is one of those issues. Uh, watch out what you wish for So it might be better some other way I either way we're going to have somebody that's going to speak on your behalf What I'm talking about the behalf of the people that are affected by this Thank you. Well, that's suprise leopold. Yeah, and uh, I appreciate the remark A supervisor cap it. I kind of know what I'm getting into because I've been living in for the last three years And if I would have thought that when I was elected supervisor that I would have to know about all these things about the flight path That I would have to become a flight controller. I might have thought differently about the job but now I'm in and And I've educated myself and I've spoken with so many people. I feel very passionate about representing them The other the other I want to make a point of clarification Currently the bylaws of the round table Only allow elected officials So the We should have elected officials representing us with other elected officials The the idea that we're gonna we're gonna ask to join the group and then Try to hope that they're gonna change who they're gonna allow to do it I think the best advocates are elected officials in this case. That's why I've seen make difference and uh, and I hope that we would appoint elected officials And uh, why I respect our staff, um That I think it would be better to have advocates there rather than bureaucrats Okay, now we're gonna open it up for the community. I would encourage everybody to line up because that'd be useful Um, and also a couple of things if you already spoke this morning because a couple people did during the early Component that was it. Uh, secondly, we're gonna do two minutes because there's so many people The third thing is We did receive a lot of letters and a lot of correspondence. It's all part of the public record We read them all so just recognize that if you've already written us Whether you feel it's necessary and the last thing that I had said a minute ago to the degree that we can remain civil and not That would be appreciated. I know it's a lot But I appreciate you taking the time to come down here. Good morning. Welcome. Thank you all for waiting I'm Diane Matlock. I live in district five I urge you to join the round table and appoint supervisor leopold as the county representative If santa cruz county had a voice years ago, we may have avoided the mess created by next gen Instead, you did not inform us of coming changes and we now have spent years trying to induce significant damage done to unsuspecting victims You have a responsibility to not let that happen again I attended every select committee meeting and strongly believe supervisor leopold is the only one qualified to sit on the round table as vice chair on the select committee He was engaged did his due diligence Clearly mastered the fa issues and showed an unbiased approach to finding common-sense solutions to complex problems I live in district five and I don't believe supervisor McPherson or coonerty will fairly represent me or the many others impacted by jet noise They have demonstrated a blatant disregard for the democratic process of the select committee and the decisions reached under majority rule Their actions have made it clear their agenda is to undermine the select committee recommendations and stop the bsr overlay The claim they want to make sure Jet noise does not move it's flat out insulting If that was their concern they would be fighting with the majority to move life packs back as noise never should have moved in the first place We need leadership that will work hard to fix what was broken and fight for future improvements Not stand in the way of progress Their agenda has already been tried in public. The majority ruled enough is enough Supervile supervisor leopold is the only one we can all trust his leadership and integrity is exactly what is needed on the round table Appointing anyone else would be a grave disservice to this county. Thank you It to the degree Just so I can say we will be here literally all day if you clap on every item Okay, and I think that you care more about the action than not I just want to make sure that we show respect I understand but I want you this is supposed to be a welcoming place For everybody even people that don't agree with you. I just want you to understand that, okay Uh, and there will be issues that that you may not be the majority on and I want to make sure that you feel welcome in that environment too So to the degree that you can respect that that's what I'm asking. It's not a major ask. Good morning. Welcome My name is neil goldstein. I live in capitol. I I stand in support of the round table and of john leopold The question here is do we live in a democracy or don't wait? Did the majority rule as to the or this is a minority rule Do special interests trump democracy and santa Cruz as they do in washington? That is the question here If there is a round table, who do we want in front of them? Representing us somebody who is involved who is passionate or two people who have vowed to tear down Everything we have built in the last three years It is an outrage to consider mr. Coonerty who's hiding in the closet the whole time And mr. McPherson who has lied to our faces in the select committee as even part of this There is no honor there Okay, the question is Are we going to be like the federal government who appointed somebody to the epa simply to destroy it from the inside? We cannot do that john leopold is the only answer We cannot Appoint those who have vowed to destroy what we have built to this important position Thank you. Thank you Good morning Thank you all for waiting Good morning. My name is susan lamburt. I live at the summit All the stakeholders must be involved to bring about a solution to this problem Only through the round table will you our elected officials be able to communicate with the airports and the fAA? Please don't let this opportunity to interact with them pass us by That's why i'm asking that you vote yes to join the round table and that you approve the budget for it On item nine the proposal for the round table makes clear that its purpose is to continue the work of the select committee In order to successfully serve on it our representative would have to support the work that the select committee began So that our noise concerns may be eventually addressed by the fAA Bruce mcpherson opposed the most important recommendation of the select committee that pertain to our county Namely the reversal of the surfer flight path back to its original location He refused to support his constituents suffering under the surfer flight path after it was imposed by the fAA Therefore, I believe he should be considered ineligible to represent us Although I am a constituent of bruce mcpherson. I do not feel that he shares my interest Since he doesn't support the decisions that the select committee reached I urge that you select john leopold as a more appropriate choice for our representative I therefore request that you vote no on agenda item nine. Thank you Thank you. Good morning Good morning. My name is alice of fAAF. Thank you for the opportunity to speak As you're hearing and as you're well aware of flight noise. It's a very controversial topic However, there are a few points of widespread agreement. No one likes jet noise The noise has gotten significantly worse since the introduction introduction of next gen and because of Forecast increases in traffic and congestion noise will get worse San Cruz county deserves a representative who will represent the entire county As noted in yesterday's senate editorial and as commented by a supervisor coonerty one should not expect miracles But cooperation with fAA and with the other jurisdictions who are participating in the round table Will guide how to mitigate uh the noise and distribute it the noise that cannot be eliminated By all counts supervisor leopold has shown an outstanding ability to represent his district However, his continued insistence on concentrating 100 of the traffic to a narrower corridor on the western side of the county Does not make him a suitable candidate for this assignment The fAA has repeatedly shown that currently today Only 50 of traffic travels over the ground track. The rest is distributed to always to the west Thus the current surfer track approximates the 50 50 solution sought by the select committee They focusing on approaches that will restore the altitude the pre next gen altitude and on approaches that widely disperse traffic Will be of benefit to all of the residents of the county. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Pfeiffer. We did receive your letter as well. Thank you Good morning Good morning. My name is lauren githens and I live in the fifth district. I just want to voice my full support for the Proposal here to join the committee It may not affect certain areas now, but it certainly can in the future jet noise So it's really important for everybody to be involved in this at this stage I I don't want to I really don't want to be rude up here, but Supervisor McPherson and Coonerty have put out a lot of uninformed And misinformation misleading information about this issue and I find it very offensive That they would even attempt to be on this committee and frankly Supervisor Leopold really just if you sit down in a conversation with them is the most informed person on this subject It's highly technical. This isn't something that somebody a staff person should just walk in on this needs to be Someone needs to know what's going on with this and Supervisor Leopold has been the only one that has Demonstrated a commitment a real commitment to return us to what we were Before 2015. Thank you. Thank you. Good morning. Thank you for waiting Hi, my name is Molly Gressley and I have been a resident of Capitola with my husband and our five children for over 20 years I speak today for our family our jewel box neighborhood as well as a multitude of families from the opal cliffs Deepo hill and Soquel hilltop neighborhoods We are now constantly bombarded all night and throughout the day by planes that are turning on their airbrakes Airbrakes right at the end of capital award and flying Thunderously right over our homes Previously there were virtually zero complaints because the flight path historically went over the less populated areas We support a return to the previous flight flight path and a quieter flight path plan for all county residents We strongly support John Leopold who has faithfully been part of this process from the beginning To remain a voting member of this council in the round table. We're talking about we are hoping for action and change Thank you. Thank you Morning. Hi. Good morning. Derek Brown. Happy valley. I'd like to appeal to the quote on quote neutral members of the board To essentially arbitrate what's become an ugly intra county feud um I think Supervisor leopold's Track record on this has been shown to Consider the interests of all the citizens in the county Not just his own constituents the proposal that he was deeply involved in developing was basically to let's go back to the pre next gen and What that was was basically letting people live in the homes and properties they purchased And back then so the proposal now is is not the What we say fix in place or screw in place plan But it's let's just go back to where the people that knowingly bought homes under a low impact But active flight path get to live there And the people that bought homes in a quiet Area don't have to live in the insanity that has been dumped on top of us That seems fair that seems to take into consideration the interests of all the citizens in the county Not just a handful. Thank you. Thank you Morning. Hi. Good morning. Um My name is debbie hakeem and I live in the foothills of soquel I'm here today. I'm asking you to please vote. Yes on joining the round table and nominating Supervisor leopold to represent us Um, we chose to live in this rural community for the peace and quiet and our quiet area We live in a canyon and any type of noise is greatly amplified That is why these rumbling thundering planes are extremely loud The noise loud the loud noise from these planes run off and on around the clock For me the worst has been at night In early morning when i'm trying to sleep the lack of getting a good night's sleep has greatly impacted my health Which I am sure others in my community have been greatly impacted as well So I ask you today Why are we trading airline profits and noise for the cost of our health? You need to do something about this So please bring back the peace quiet and health to our community and vote yes on the round table And yes for leopold to represent us because he has been With santa cruz county from the beginning. Thank you. Thank you Welcome back Hi, my name is dave austin. I live in so kill and I fully support john leopold As our representative for a couple of reasons one is there's a great deal of ignorance among the board members about the complexity of the airspace And the consequences of fAA actions So I saw a letter this past week from a board member who said half of the flights go over capitol and half go over santa cruz Patently patently falls every aircraft goes over Epic waypoint over capitol So I'd like to ask you which of you understand the complexity of an airplane descending at 300 feet per mile versus 389 feet per mile Okay, it's like going from the summit to big moody curve at 50 miles an hour and not stepping on your brake Is that going to happen? No The fAA put out a document last early last year That says they will increase the rate of descent to 389 feet per mile Which is what they did Starting over the bay. So what happened with us? Everyone here acknowledges speedbrake noise increased with surfer three. Well, here's the reason why This document contains the reason And it's their proposal that they increased from 300 feet per mile to 389 feet per mile Okay, we need john because john understands the difference between 300 and 389 feet per mile I suggest representing with fearson does not he's not been in personal meetings with the fAA Is not studied flight pass Nor flight procedures and we've been with john through this whole painful mess I've been to every one of the meetings with with the elected representatives and john is right there with him And we need john to represent us Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Allison Morning and welcome back Hi, hi, my name's denise stancefield and i'm from happy valley I oppose agenda item 6 0 3 7 I therefore very vehemently oppose mr Mr. Mc Coonerty and mr. Mc fearson to represent santa cruz county on the south bay roundtable Please vote for inclusion in the south bay roundtable and representation by john leopold He is the most knowledgeable Dedicated and represents all of santa cruz county fairly. Thank you Thank you Morning, good morning. I'm barry Fitzgerald. I live in los gatos in santa cruz county And I also support the roundtable and john leopold I'd like for a moment for you to all think back on on the early days in your career when you decided to go into public service And what were your ideals? And think about the democratic process That we've seen where we have a ground grassroots organization Growing up over this problem holding many many many meetings including individual meetings with the fAA And coming up with a solution and then along comes this attempt to cynically scuttle it By one person who never made it to any of those meetings including in his own district in santa cruz And another person who spent most of the time saying gee. I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand from the deos The only person capable of taking that position Is john leopold an elected official who will represent us throughout the entire county secondly with regard to the fAA and The roundtable we've been offered a seat at the table And to turn that seat at the table down is absolutely crazy because then we have no say Yes, perhaps governmental policies don't function the way we would ideally want But to cut ourselves off from the one ear that we have to the fAA would be absolutely crazy So again, I would recommend Supervisor leopold to sit on that in that position And please look back on this democratic process and why you entered politics And do you really want to be part of the dirty mess that we see all over the country that have tainted public service? Thank you Thank you Good morning Good morning. I'm barber rice. I live in scott's valley. I bought my home in 1990 when it was really nice and quiet Until march 15th of 2015 and when um, I thought a plane was crashing And it is continued to be loud and noisy every minute and a half To five minutes 24 7 The purpose of the new south bay round table is to follow on follow up on unfinished business from the select committee The decision to revert to the bsr has already been made by this select committee That was a democratic process It took years of work I'd like to thank supervisor leopold for all this hard work as vice chair and his Getting up to speed and having more knowledge when you speak with him about this than fAA. I don't know. It's really fantastic Um supervisors mcpherson and coonity are dead set against The return to the bsr as they have expressed in a letter to fAA on december 11th of 2017 Claiming that the select committee's eight to four eight to four decision In favor of the bsr is not sufficient to justify the return to that flight path Again, that was a democratic process We must not give them a forum to continue to work against the will of the people I support john leopold being the representative from this county. He will represent all of us fairly Um, he's extremely knowledgeable. Thank you again Thank you Good morning. Thank you all for waiting on this item Good morning supervisors My name is bill holt. I live up in the last kumbh race community Very near to mcpherson peak I can't say I would disagree with any of the comments that preceded this I think the comparison to the chaos and deceit in washington Is interesting and I think the point about bringing this back to the community democracy process is interesting But to me it's a more personal issue And to fact that we'd had Bruce at los kumbh race community to meet us develop an intimate relationship shows that personal interest And because of what's been expressed how bruce is declined to respect the democracy process I suggest that bruce recused himself from this activity. Thank you Good morning. Good morning. I'm julie oak from so cal Hello supervisors. Thank you for your service I'm here to support our county's participation in the round table This is a bear of a problem, but we must come to the table where people with opposing needs are talking My husband and I are directly affected by surfer We carefully bought a piece of property for it's quiet in 2014 and since 2015 it's been under surfer We attended select committee meetings in palo Alto at great inconvenience as did many people currently suffering under the surprising establishment of the surfer path Mr. Cunert nerty and mr. McPherson have not shown concern for those under surfer They may have some legitimate concerns about the return to bsr But the fact remains that the same concerns would apply to any improved surfer And even if all things were equal between the two flights, which i'm not sure they are the fact that Bsr was there for 40 years makes it a much more fair choice Than leaving surfer in place I request john leopold be our representative at the round table. He has attained many more meetings than anyone else As many people have already said I would also like to point out The number of people opposing surfer who tirelessly appear to meetings in large numbers much larger than the other side Thank you Thank you Good morning My name is lucinda swan. My husband and I have lived in our santa cruise home in happy valley for 35 years We moved there for peace and quiet our peace and quiet was taken from us without due process and we want it back Please vote to join the round table and please make john leopold our representative John leopold is clearly more knowledgeable about the ins and outs of aircraft noise issues And has been steadfastly engaged in the process of getting the fAA to do the right thing. Thank you Thank you Good morning. Good morning. My name is rosanna bruny and I live in soquel Um, i'm here to ask three things of you today The first is that you join the round table a few weeks ago. I visited, um Jimmy panetta's round table meeting. Um, we're not round table community community meeting and um We spoke about jet noise and about joining the round table And jimmy felt that it was of utmost importance that The county of santa cruise joined the round table So that we could have an ear of the fAA the fAA has been very difficult to Communicate with he indicated that since the trump administration the fAA has become more closed and it's more difficult to communicate with And by joining the round table will have the fAA's ear And that that's an important thing for us to have um Two i'm asking you not to put an unrealistically low cap on the on the money that you're willing to spend on this um adventure 30 to 40 thousand dollars might be not enough And um as a cpa I'm here to request that 75 000 dollars be set aside for the round table as 75 000 dollars represents One tenth of one percent of the county's 70 seven hundred and 75 million dollar budget If you're not going to pave our roads then in soquel I live off rodeo gulch that hasn't been paved in over 25 years Then please give us this win of appointing john leopold As our representative thousands of hours have been put into Into understanding jet noise it is such a technical issue and you've heard that already but we have engineers We have aviation professionals. We have pilots as part of save our skies santa cruz that Are highly informed and have trained john leopold. He's the only one who understands. Thank you I wish we had seven hundred and seventy seven million available dollars. It's much more complex than that, but We hear you Good morning. Welcome. Good morning. My name is william green. I live off skyline in lust kumbres and Noise wasn't a problem at my house. I've lived there 38 years and uh jet noise wasn't a problem and You go out you sound my south deck and here's the bsr path And you wouldn't hear it That much There's a surfer path over here The problem is is they're much lower the airplanes are much lower and they come and you hear them now my gauge of how what's excessive Before bird noise was what you heard When one of those surfer planes come over that way outweighs the the birds And the other path it didn't There's a saying That I like If you don't have a seat at the table, then you're on the menu So I I support john leopold To be on the round table. Thank you for that Good morning. Thank you all for waiting Good morning, and thank you for hearing us out My name is christine green and I live off the skyline boulevard in the north part of the county The airplanes I have lived there since 1980 Until 2015 we had no problem with jet noise Now it's a nightmare day and night and The surfer three has only made it worse We need someone to sit at the round table to support the entire Santa Cruz area We have a lot of different areas and a lot of different people that are impacted Please get a seat at the table please Mr. Leopold has an approach to issues he meets with his constituents. He listens he Thinks he studies he calls he informs himself And then he makes decisions, please Choose him to be the wise one to lead us on this matter. Thank you Good morning Good morning. My name is robin brun. I live in the unincorporated area Santa Cruz in felton I don't have a city council in felton, and I'm supporting bruce mcpherson's Proposal, mr. Um with his colleagues I think it's a illusion to this situation is An argument which is a kind of a not my backyard argument and the people The majority in this room feel they've succeeded in getting the flight path not in their backyard I think it's a fiction Front you it's a fiction to presume that we can return to 2015 with equanimity flight plans have changed Plains have gotten bigger. There's more air traffic There is no return of the 50s and there's no return to Complete peace and in the valley So I appreciate bruce mcpherson's proposal looks at the 10 criteria That was supposed to be evaluated and used before moving the flight path and they cannot meet that criteria So this is unfinished business and that piece that's unfinished Directly affects his unincorporated area. So I support him to be on the Committee to address that area. It's a very technical Question and concern and it directly affects his constituency. So I support it Him on the board. Thank you. Thank you Good morning. Thank you for waiting Morning, hurry. Um, so very quickly I personally have 500 hours into studying this problem. There's hundreds of thousands of hours put in by this community That's like 40 cents an hour for 40 thousand dollars. I'm sorry. Yeah, a lot of taxpayers who are very Irritated and losing sleep and wasting time and you folks need to do something to the extent feasible This is a really complicated problem The attitude that somehow the f a can't be changed. I think is not right I think that that with the support of the bay area And this community What the f a is doing is wrong. It is illegal if you read the united states code of regulation They're supposed to pay attention to noise They're supposed to develop the standard that minimizes noise and they have not done that and we have the documentation in this Count we have professionals who have developed we have a number of complaints. They're being recorded daily On the average 500 to 600 complaints a day And I don't believe that that standard meets the f a criteria or that the that criteria can't be considered arbitrary and capricious And I think there's a a basis for a suit But before you go there you do the political thing and I think john leopold's the only one in this Community who's willing to do that and I'm not saying move one or the other But it needs to be studied evaluated in a good solution Needs to be found not Not just not in my backyard Thank you. Thank you for the comments Good morning and welcome back Good morning. I'm ron pomerance Good morning board chair and board members. I feel ambivalence to supervisor leopold's resolution For the county to join the round table Uh on one hand it seems like it could be a waste of taxpayer money But for the county to be part of an ongoing organization that has influence with the fAA seems vitally important If the round table has that power and influence I'm troubled with the language in the draft resolution That does not accurately represent the current situation its language about surfer The surfer path represents an incomplete picture And it further states that quote the fAA supports the select committee recommendations. In fact As the mcphearsen community draft resolution correctly states the fAA has refused to accept one third of the nine recommendations Which were unanimously adopted by the select committee and were the conditions for any move of the flight path We in the city of santa cruz and the sand Lorenzo valley already receive about half of the over flights Dumping them on all these communities is neither progressive nor equitable If the county wishes to join the round table, then it should pass a modified version of the mcphearsen community Resolution and I strongly prefer to see supervisor coonerty as the county representative To represent a balance of intentions The modified version of the coonerty resolution should include board instructions to any representative Requiring environmental studies to determine impacts of proposed changes of any path flights No shifting of the flight path to bsr unless all nine recommendations Adapted unanimously by the select committee are carried out Fundamentally no area should shoulder the onerous burden of jet noise Fundamentally noise should be equitably distributed. Thank you for your time and thoughtful consideration Thank you, mr. Pomerance Good morning councilmember bottoff. Thank you for joining today. Good morning chair friend board commissioners First I want to acknowledge your dedication to every time you come to this meeting room. You make difficult decisions Whether it's train no train widened highway one not widened highway one and now big surfer surfer There was an article in the paper just yesterday and I Co-assigned that article and it was about what I thought was an attempt to bring this county together It's obviously that this is a divisive measure Uh, and there is no solution I think what's important to be stated here is that when that select committee, which I was a member of got together We had no power. We had no authority. We were only there to make a recommendation And I served on that committee with uh, john leopold and bruce mcpherson And we all entered that status not knowing anything about jet noise and at this point I believe all of us are experts and I want to repeat that we all have the same knowledge on that topic So the reference that one person knows more or less than the other I I resent that As we move forward, you know the the decision before you today is whether to join the roundtable and as uh commissioner coonerty acknowledged at the first meeting I was not a big fan of joining the roundtable because We had met people on the select committee who are on the san francisco roundtable, which I believe is the first and formidable Body and I don't think we could get a seat at that table But they were very unable to accomplish a lot of things But as I considered it more and it was talked to more people I I believe that it is a good move to join the roundtable because Doing that as people have mentioned we have no voice And even if we can only make recommendations we need a voice The one thing I do appreciate is that uh, none of you and my six years of being on the city council Ever come to one of my meetings and told us what to do in capitol. So I appreciate that So I wouldn't come here to tell you who to select. I just think it's a good idea that you join the roundtable I will be joining as a member of capitol. I look forward to working with whoever you select and thanks again for your hard work Thank you. Thank you councilmember. Thanks for coming and not telling us what to do for once Good morning Good morning I'm here as a fifth district resident to complain to bruce mcpherson and the entire board of supervisors Bruce mcpherson and ryan coonerty have chosen to discard the majority decisions of the slug committee With regard to the eight four decisions revert back to the legacy bsr flight plan You both continue to push for a fix in place when the faa has stated several times It's impossible to develop a bsr like Quiet procedure on the surfer flight plan. I'm also disgusted that you keep depicting reverting back to legacy routes moving noise the noise was moved to us from a path that was a quiet procedure How does reverting back to the original? Route move noise that does not make sense to me You continue to undermine the work of our congressional reps the elected officials and all the residents that spent their time in the select committee process Now you're in try you're trying to undermine the importance of the communication with the faa in the select committee process Um, I think the article you printed in the sentinel was shameful To act like the roundtable won't do anything because it's not advancing your agendas or that you're not gonna The importance is getting in front of the faa They also want you were trying to push bruce mcpherson is the one authority that had the most residents when we clearly saw today that Does not have the most residents affected Um, I think the difference in passion and commitment is clear john leopold spoke to his Um agenda before this started bruce mcpherson didn't make a peep over there. Um, I strongly suggest that you Have john leopold be on this roundtable to support us. We trust him. He cares. He understands He has a huge commitment and integrity and that's the direction that we feel that we should get here Thank you Good morning, and thank you for waiting Hello gentlemen. I want to thank you for your public service. My name is terry lennard. I live up in santa cruz gardens I first noticed the noise like many of the rest of us I was in my backyard and I thought there was a mayflower moving truck coming down the street hitting potholes Although there are no potholes in my neighborhood. So that was the start of this Nightmare and now we have the korean airlines coming in late at night and I hear them all the time So I want to go on to say that um, I support you joining the roundtable. It's a complex issue We do need a voice From everything I know in the meetings I've been to and I've been to palo alto also I think john leopold is got his finger on the pulse of the problem And I hope you can all work that out And I hope you will fund as needed Everything to keep this process going so we can get a resolution for the citizens of santa cruz. Thank you Thank you Good morning. Thank you for waiting Good morning. My name is mary gillis. I live on coffee lane. I've lived there for 35 years and that's in district one I I can't really say more than the people here have said I really appreciate my neighbors coming forward I had no idea that this was um affecting other people. I thought it was just me So, um, anyway, I do support john leopold. He knows what's going on. He has a lot of expertise and Thank you all for being here Thank you Good morning Morning, my name's grant weaseman. I live in happy valley Uh question that came to my mind about this issue The other day was why didn't supervisors cooner d and mcpherson represent their constituents about concerns about jet noise before march 2015 my Short answer If I may is that there wasn't any I've lived in santa cruz for Since 73 I've worked 30 years for the fire department downtown east side west side The only time I was aware that there were planes flying over santa cruz making noise They weren't was when we were doing our ladder drills and i'm up here Looking at the tip of the ladder and I look there's an airplane up there Can't hear it And I wouldn't have noticed it unless I was you know walk around like this simply there was no noise in previously to march 2015 and to Jump on this topic. I understand the concept of political expediency, but you need to be honest with the public and um I just want to conclude this by saying that I believe john leopold is the man for this job I've watched him go from zero to 60 and Very small amount of time his his performance on the select committee was outstanding And you also need to understand that change is happening Looking at the city of phoenix and the reversion to the original flight paths That caused so much trouble there. That is happening. It has happened. So Um Putting people with a defeatist attitude towards the round table in that position would be a big mistake And I I hope you won't do it. And I hope you'll put john leopold in that position. Thank you very much Good morning. Welcome back Hi, my name is george wiley. Uh, I'm uh, Would like to speak I'm the President center runs the valley school board and I want to say any potential benefits might emerge as a result Of our county joining the proposed santa clara santa cruise airport community round table Are questionable after all the sfo round table has been meeting with the f a for the last 35 years And has yet to affect a meaningful shift in f a policies procedures or noise mitigation our purchase Santa Cruz tax dollars might be better spent on other local pressing issues over which we have some control That said if our county does elect to join the airport community round table I strongly urge that this board adopt the macpherson cunardy board cunardy board letter And resolution and reject the board letter and resolution submitted by supervisor leopold Importantly macpherson and cunardy propose reasonable restrictions on both the funding and the potential duration of this project Where supervisor leopold cites no limits No such limits Leopold has used the words return to a time there was a time and some of the speakers have also said this That will never happen. Okay. The f a was eminently clear during the uh, committee hearings that Next gen was the way things were going to happen going forward And that's and that's if evidence by the three of the nine criteria that were listed by mr leopold Have been determined to be Unfusible according to the f a a Next gen is with us to stay Last month the class b airspace was fixed. So there is now no difference between surfer and big sur except who gets the noise Please please excuse me, please And finally, uh, if it in with this way does not i'm sorry You can take an extra 15 seconds just for that. Please Moving the noise at this point would again be in direct contradiction to uh, congresswoman eschews commissioning directive To this to this procedure two years ago, which said that moving the noise from one community to another is not an option Thank you, mr. Wiley. Thank you. Good morning. Welcome. Thank you for waiting Hello, my name is jackie rise and i'm a resident speaks a lot Of felton community and i just wanted to point out a few things I don't have a speech written out, but first of all, I would like to The board here. I'm on the s s sandalons of valley school board I understand protocol and you can't really respond to a lot of these comments But I would like to Support you're adopting the resolution of having mr. McPherson and mr. Coonerty to be on this committee It's hard to see $44,000 being spent at a committee when I just saw the Second story group go through and I know they're losing their funding and that is vital to our our community as well I wish you had money for everything The faa asked that the underlining when they first proposed the the changes from their um Actually it was it was the feasibility study They asked that the underlying community be in agreement on any moves of the jet path When the vote came santa Cruz county had four votes. We were two to two. We still have that disparity I also would like to comment to the honorable mr. Leopold That in his uh newsletter He said i'm glad to have the fa is working on returning the flight back to his historic path path that was well accepted for decades As we know we cannot go back to the bsr flight levels. I lived in felton for almost 40 years I know what the sounds are and I feel like this was deceptive because you know, we cannot go back to that. It'll be a big sir um I mean a surfer type flight path And I have more things from people That were on the committee that wish on the select committee that wish that they had not voted as they did because they voted with a contingent on the nine Recommendations that you had everyone signed. It's an agreement. It's a deal This is why i'm voting for and if they know that these weren't going to be followed through they would not have voted as they had I do feel um This is a community problem on my very first speech at this at the very first select big regional meeting This is all of us So I would like to see something that benefits everybody not just me or them or anything. Just something that helps everybody. Thank you Good morning. Welcome back Marilyn Garrett This does affect everybody and I'm the first speaker hit the nail on my hand Do we have a democracy? Do we have rights to be safe in our person and property? And to regard home as a sanctuary. Do we have rights to our health? and We should sleep deprivation Is a well-known form of military torture. There's a lot of sleep deprivation caused by this first gen and I'm wondering How much power the round table will have I'm thinking of michael parenti's book called power and the powerless Are we being placated by the f a a and why do they have more power? Than citizens. I think the problem is we're living in a corporate state and I'd very much like to know What corporations push through this next gen? It's obviously a disaster of the to the quality of life and the health You know and it's testified by all the the complaints You've received And every time I hear next generation I think it's more radiation. It's more pulse radiation So we're having this next generation 5g 4g the flight patterns This is all a health hazard and an assault to all biology Including the birds and the bees Um, we just need to have the power to say no, this is unacceptable. It has to stop Good morning. Good morning. My name is Ruth Siegel. I'm from the pleasure point area And thank you for opening this up for comments I support the inclusion of santa Cruz county in the san francisco around table I think it's a no-brainer at this point with the disaster that's been going on John leopold is the only one on this board that I believe is qualified to represent the entire county He's been through this process from the beginning as have I He's been to Most of the meetings all the meetings that I know of a plus more He wrote a more than fair proposal that was already voted on and accepted by the select committee His proposal protects the rest of the county from the surfer disaster And I just want to remind everybody here Nobody under the surfer flight path had any Warning we had no say we had no such committee. We had no such representation This is essential that we have someone who's knowledgeable and Knowledgeable meaning really engaged in the process from the beginning I don't believe that mcpherson has done his part To educate his constituents his district about the facts and Misinformation that's out there, and I'm so sorry. Mr. Coonerty wrote such an embarrassingly Misinformed letter to the faa that just it's it's it's just embarrassing. I'm I'm really sorry about that The county has probably already collected today from the new hosted rental permits Applications already probably collected enough money just today to pay for this committee To join the round table I'm still waiting To be able to open my windows and sleep through the night in my own bedroom. Thank you so much Thank you Good morning. Thank you for letting Hello, I'm john glena and I live in capitol. I just have to say about With these flight paths now they all the planes have to come over the wharf That's the waypoint and they all have to hit the Certain airspace so they're hitting their speed brakes or accelerating to get into that That band that they have to be in and then they then they vector later after they go further north so we get a hundred percent of them over us every day and and I think that john leopold will be the fairest To the whole county, but right now we get a hundred percent and I think that he the the with the democratic process of the select committee I think he would carry out The the recommendations that that that whole process Concluded. Thank you very much. Thank you Good morning Thank you for understanding the importance of keeping our voice and joining the round table We need to appoint john leopold who served as co-chairman of the select committee My name is rosemary Hirschbach and I live at seven for two samigil canyon road in wasambil or royal oaks I have been severely Impacted by the jet airplane noise About 600 jet airplanes more or less fly day and night over my house property and surrounding area I have lost my peace and quiet I enjoyed for so many years My sleep is interrupted every night by the jet airplane noise I'm stressed out and I don't know I don't have any energy due to the lack of sleep I have lived at this address since the year 1979 It had been nice and quiet until the next gen changes The good and safe routes over granite rock in san venido and san aclara counties and the big south big sur route Were changed by the f a by new and noisy routes of surf and breaks What the f a has really done is to change the noise from one county to another We really need to belong to the south round table so that the f a Can listen to our concerns Thank you for everything Thank you Good morning morning. Roger. Well chap toss This has been a big problem And I just pray that god will help you Thank you Thank you Good morning. Thank you for waiting Supervisor cup hood and friend It looks to me as though This is going to come down to the two of you and so I'd like to explain for a moment What I think it's been going on here, which has not been said at all We are one county There are people throughout the county who are affected by this matter You've heard a large number of people appealing to you from one area To dump all of the airplane noise onto two neighboring districts, mr. Coonerty's And mr. McPherson's Those two districts currently get half of all of the over flights half are vectored over their areas This the people here and I understand their concern Want a hundred percent of the noise moved away from them and dumped a hundred percent on those two other districts You're being asked to join a round table and have someone represent The interests of all of the county Not just the people who want it all moved away from them The select committee voted That the move to back not back, but too big sir was conditioned Upon all nine of the recommendations of the select committee being adopted I have a letter here which I can pass out to you about that Three of those conditions the FAA has refused to make So if you are going to join this round table I frankly think that money should go to the homeless to Violence against women to farm worker health, but if you're going to join it You need to have someone on this panel who represents all of the county And I think that means it's going to have to be one of the two of you And it means that you're going to have to take the following position for the county That the recommendations by the select committee which required all nine of those Changes to be made before there's a flight path move must be carried out And any noise must be equitably distributed Not moved for mr. Leopold. Thank you to 100 percent. Thank you to the others I urge you to remember, please Thank you Please in the audience, but thank you, sir. You're out of time Good morning. Thank you for waiting Good morning. I'm Cheryl Poland. I'm a Los Gatos resident Chairman friend I feel the need to remind all of you that It was the failure of this board To notify the public of the impending changes of next gen that deprived us of our rights to file timely complaints against it Because of your not your personally, but because of this board's dereliction of duty tens of thousands of us Our quality of life our property values have been destroyed It's your duty to rectify this by joining the round table to give Santa Cruz county residents a seat at this table It's your duty to nominate John Leopold As our representative his demonstrated leadership at the select committee and his depth of knowledge about the the jet noise issues make him the absolute best choice As a 20-year fifth district resident I'm appalled At supervisor McPherson's constant attempts to undermine the democratic process that our congressional representatives put in place For the benefit of residents across the region It's the duty of this board To fully embrace and support the majority decisions of the select committee, which you by the way agreed to We live in a democracy. It's time to respect The people and do the right thing. Thank you Thank you Everybody else would like to address us Please Hello, and thank you for being here. My name is Brian Anderson. I live in northern scott's valley On a bad day, I can watch the planes go like this and this and this and this And that those are the 9 000 plane complaints days Anyway to put a little perspective on this A couple years ago. I was having a Sitting at a barbecue on the coast of alameda And my cousin can see the oakland calcium And we're purely as close to an airport as you can pretty much get And I enjoyed the time there that the air noise was not significant So i'm looking at planes constantly in alameda not hearing that much And then a couple weeks ago my wife and I were in jackland and square oakland And I found peace and quiet there and you probably all know where that is it's again plain sight of oakland airport and sfo And cal cal train actually so I'm going to say john leopold Please join the round table And avoid I don't want to call it spin But I think there's some misinformation. I'm an electrical contractor. I've worked for a lot of people in the mountains I've queried all of them what the old big sir route was like they said not a problem never So I think there's some Better lack of better word spin data coming around by some Pseudo professionals And I think that needs a value evaluated No one wants to dump all their problems on everybody They didn't have a problem before but if we have to distribute some and I could take I could take a joy to jet every 10 minutes But every minute and a third is unbearable So if we have to distribute but Maybe that's the way it has to be I know that opens up a whole different can of worms because you just can't move back to big sir But uh Again, I never got any complaints from people in bonny dune Felton Everywhere. Thank you. Thank you Okay, well, we will Close the public comment period and bring it back to the board. I assume everybody wants to comment So let's go down the line start supervisor of kundry then supervisor leopold and let us work our way down Sure supervisor kundry. So first of all, thank you to everybody for coming out and thank you for your Advocacy no matter which side you are and making sure that our community's Concerns are heard and at in this process So I've known supervisor leopold for a long time. He's he is he's incredibly knowledgeable. He's incredibly Effective. He's incredibly tenacious. If I was his constituent, I would be very happy to have him Represent me on this issue We all get to deal with that tenaciousness Almost every tuesday mostly put to the game sometimes Sometimes to our loss but I think I there is no way that he can be a fair representative for the entire community if I And and let me let me say two things one is I couldn't be if I had hundred of hundreds of constituents and I constituents crying And demanding action I couldn't be a fair representative for this entire county and if I and if you want proof You can look at the select committee's recommendations, which said that they incorporate the criteria below and then it says And include the following criteria criteria and at list nine criteria It doesn't say this is belt and suspenders and if you can get three of six or six of nine Then it's okay It said it says in order to move the flight path in order to have that democratic vote of super majority You need to have all nine criteria. We now are in a situation Where the fAA is saying that three of the criteria cannot be met And it's possible that there will be more criteria that can't be met So that mandate is premised on this nine criteria So I don't think Supervisory Leopold can represent my constituents and I've heard from my constituents to say that they That they that they have concerns I I don't think I should represent and I would I would think Bruce McPherson would be a great representative But I understand the concerns So I'm going to put pass out a motion that I think tries to get us a county-wide support which is This is a motion for the Santa Cruz county to join the Santa Clara Santa Cruz community roundtable and direct the cao to sign the mo with the following added conditions One the county representative Will be the cao or his designee from the cao's office To the county will join for one year then the cao will will evaluate the effectiveness And benefits of participating in the roundtable before continuing its membership and submit this information information to the board Three the county the chair of the board of supervisors will write a letter to the fAA and our congressional representatives Requesting that the representatives from the fAA and the effective Congressional districts attend all roundtable meetings as they represent the federal entities who hold the authority to implement recommendations generated by the roundtable and for that the cao or designee as the county's representative on the roundtable Represent the county of Santa Cruz with the direction from this board that the representative worked to To relieve the immediate impacts of jet noise for those currently experiencing the impact without moving the noise over another part of the county Hold on please Please All right, so we have a motion. I know we're going to be considering a number of things up here Is there a second of the motion as we move on to this continued discussion? All right, we do have a motion in a second, but we're gonna we're gonna have a lot of discussion I imagine we'll have other things continuing to go on. Is there more supervisor community on this? Okay, supervisor leopold Thank you chair. Thanks everyone who came out here today I've gotten to know many of you because we've been on this long journey together You attended the meeting when it was at the Santa Cruz civic when 600 people showed up You attended the of many of you attended a vast majority of the meetings that were held over in Palo Alto It made an impression upon the select committee because the the tenacity of people We heard during that select committee process a couple of things from the FAA One is they did not Understand the impact that they were creating on Santa Cruz County Two is they told us that When once they understood what was going on that the terrain And the geography And the concentration of people were fundamentally different than what it had been under the big sur path Uh and that some of those things could not be ameliorated It has been suggested that with the fixing of class b airspace that there is no difference Between the big sur and surfer and I think that that shows a real Distain for the information that we received During the select committee process where we got many Modellings of Noise impacts as part of that process I have a whole folder in my office of all the different modeling that they had done at our request Um, and it's why we uh put in the recommendation that the new Path would have an equivalent or less dnl noise exposure Than it was before the change in jet path We understood that the dnl monitoring isn't a perfect way. We would we would all do it differently This jurisdiction does measures noise differently But we were very sensitive to the fact that uh, it should be at least As quiet as it was before and it should hopefully be less noisy than it was before So, uh, it's been suggested that that somehow a 50 50 allotment is is fair You should know that the select committee did have a A proposal Uh from a member to do that 50 50 Not only is that technically difficult FAA would maybe say impossible But it doesn't address the real impacts that are currently being experienced by People under the surfer route It's it's basically acknowledging that you will suffer and you will suffer permanently So it's technically not possible and and uh, it's It's it's not just in any way shape or form So let's look at what the three Recommendations are when I said belt and suspender is we were trying to do everything we could To to make it less noisy So they, uh One of these pieces was use flight attitudes at least as high and preferably higher than the historic bsr Procedure along the entire route We had a long discussion With the fAA we also have I have many many discussions with member of the committee About trying to set an an absolute number But one thing that I've realized is that the the height is The height is not the only thing that makes the difference Um, it's the procedures that make a big difference and what we were told By the fAA at the time was Don't set a number Because what if we can come up with a path that is less noisy, but doesn't meet your criteria It could create procedures and we would meet your criteria, but then not be able to meet the noise impacts So they have said that they can't make it higher than it was On the historic bsr route, but that doesn't mean it's going to be noisier than it was on the bsr route So let's look at the the number four which was utilizing a new bsr waypoint Equivalent to eddy and at or above 6,000 feet to ensure flights across the menlo waypoint at or above 5,000 feet and maintain idle power over human I point that out to my To our ceo and you would have to get to know what eddy menlo human Are and there's a bunch of other waypoints. Good luck with that So the menlo waypoint doesn't exist anymore They changed that and in fact before they changed it. They actually gave a recommendation to move it up Um, uh does something above 4,500 uh feet? So Why they they say why they they have questions about the feasibility of this one The the real impact about this was for the menlo waypoint over palo alto and um This has no effect on Santa Cruz It's what you do when you're trying to build a political consensus is you try to meet all the needs So the the this was an important need for for members there The last one was we'll be subject to future capacity limitations, particularly during nighttime hours and when vectoring exceeds current levels Again, this was put in at the request of people outside of santa cruz county because they were trying to deal with the difficult issues of um Of nighttime flights, especially as they come in from the west Um primarily through uh wood side Um At the time that we made this uh the f a representative steve may Question whether he could he at the meeting where we made the motion He questioned whether this is something that the f a could do. This was a last minute addition by uh by a group that were interested in and proposing his recommendation So When I look at what's in the actual recommendation about having noise modeling that shows That the new procedure will be less noisy than it was on the bsr route in 2014 That we start from a point over the Monterey bay and reach of the shoreline altitude no lower than 12,500 msl That incorporates modifications to class b airspace that uses flight attitudes as high as possible while still allowing idle power flight And it's designed to avoid the use of speed brakes Those for those of us who have been uh working on this issue for three years. No, these are the critical pieces Um in addressing the noise concerns that have been out there When I read off earlier today the number of complaints in the last six days I should share with my colleague that these are low numbers That this that if you look historically over the last three years The september october the numbers go down because the the the um The uh the The atmosphere the cloud the fog all plays some role in this noise Um, and it'll go up. I mean there was in the end of uh, August uh up to 9 000 and we've gotten as many as 11 or 12 000 Uh points a day or complaints a day so I have a great appreciation for our county administrative officer or is designee. I think we have a very talented Staff, I don't think they're the right ones to do this I think that when you're advocating With other elected officials your most powerful advocate is another elected official And and to to to try to just throw up our hand saying well, we can't make a decision So we'll just pick the the the uh the cao Is really a setup It's a setup for people who won't get the advocacy they need And it's a setup for the staff who then has to figure out how to to Balance all the things and when you're there at the meeting and you have to make a decision And we hasn't talked with members of the board What are you going to do that's a that's a that's a great way to have a short career Um at the board of supervisors So As I pointed out, I think that there that there are some of us who have a lot of skin in the game You're showing up here today Does point out that the people who live under this path right now are Are informed Desperate for change And uh, I have no doubt that at these round table meetings. We're going to see you and And other people in red shirts who will be uh Advocating for that point of view As my chart showed there are two districts of unincorporated residents that are mostly affected Mostly in my district under under these Tens of thousands of people are affected Supervisor McPherson also has a lot of people in the unincorporated area Yes But be clear the the city of santa cruz gets represented the city of capitol gets represented the city Of scott's valley gets to be represented and the city of wassenville gets to be represented those Those incorporated communities will have to choose. It's relatively inexpensive for them to participate Um, I think the unincorporated residents need a strong advocate. I am prepared to be a strong advocate um I would love to have supervisor mcpherson as my as my backup And I do not support this motion that would turn it over to a bureaucrat to to to make important decisions that affect the lives Of everybody here. So I don't support the motion. Thank you Thank you chair, um For those of you who have suffered by the terrible jet noise since march 30, uh, march 2015 Um, I sincerely believe a grave injustice has been done to you it's um Unfortunate that next the next gen procedure was implemented in march of 2015 in the first place I never should have been in the first place Clearly the distress and disruption to your lives and many others And you deserve relief from a situation that was imposed imposed upon you without any warning And we didn't know it up here You didn't know it out there that I know of Yeah The stress that has been caused by many of you point to the blame for the situation and direction Other than it then toward the fa is improper. Uh, that's where it should be pointed to Why did they do this in the first place? It's caused misinformation and repeated To be repeated in the form of some harmful and really Misleading accusations. I think both sides would probably say that Before the select committee voted to move surfer to big sir. There was a motion on the table to ask the fa To come up with a flight path that had the least impact Of our community A flight path that had the least impact in our community I supported that motion and it lost But it's important to know that three out of the four representatives on that committee from sanikers county Voted along with me The reason was was simple. We knew that the fa was the only Authority that could fix this problem I respect the Aside from what the comments have been made I do respect the process that led to the select committee's recommendation 90% of which were approved unanimously the only recommendation that was contentious was the eight to four vote to move from surfer to big sir And our community obviously Continues to be divided on this But we all agree on one thing No one in our community should suffer like those currently living under surfer three Since the select committee ended I've been asking members of congress and the fa some hard questions They chose their answers very carefully Especially the fa and so far this is what I've heard is true The fa cannot meet as you have heard Three of the nine critical criteria the select committee voted unanimously to incorporate it to move the path The fa may not conduct a full public environmental nipa national environmental protection agency review Of the new procedure That's really troubling to me. They should have done that in the first place The fa is solely in charge of the situation irrespective of the select committee's recommendations I will support joining the round table and continue to ask questions that I hope will add to the transparency And the community conversation And I will continue to push for our community to work together to solve this problem together It's something that we had no warning that was coming to us in this degree for sure And it's something that we need to resolve together and that's why i'm supporting the supervisor koonerty's motion Thank you, please. Please be respectful to supervisor cappett Yeah, I'm this this is kind of a tough one. I'm going to try to explain it as quickly as I possibly can Um certainly Supervisor leopold is qualified Yeah, and certainly he has the passion What what surprises me is the Negative comments and it kind of it kind of hurts a little bit because I don't like watching what's happening in washington because somebody has a different opinion and by What I don't like is the Questioning of the competence of other supervisors up here on whether or not they could do it or whether or not anyone You know we appoint can do it so I it it kind of uh We we have to have a respect for a difference of opinion and um The the tension in the room is basically over one thing We we're all agreeing on two out of the three, right? We want a representative Uh that we're going to pick but uh, that's the difference. Uh, we are going to participate in the round table We're going to pay for it. We're going to discuss that But to question the competence of the other supervisors Uh, it's kind of a turnoff to me to be honest I I've been the only one in this room that has been for something Uh, and the other supervisors don't agree When we leave up here, I can't remember Maybe maybe once it's happened or twice, but they never questioned my competence For the opinion I had So that's that you put me in a tough situation here If I were to go along with the first the first proposition I'm almost saying that uh two out of the five up here are not competent and not qualified to actually represent us On the round table Uh, and I can't do that. I can't do that and then um it's uh I know with the uh, I'll give you just a personal antidote and then I'll end it With the Pajaro River, that's a big issue in south county. That's the number one thing for neighborhoods And whether or not they're going to be flooded Uh, I could argue passionately I should be always the one at the forefront being the chairman of the flood protection board or whatever And that i'm the one that should be actually always at the forefront But when the board appoints somebody else And I I trust them that they're going to look out for what's best for everybody They're not going to turn their back on your area You might think that but I don't I don't agree So if they pick somebody else to represent, uh, the county for south county issue of the Pajaro River I respect it and I work with that person to try to make sure we're going to get the flood protection we need I don't say the other person's not qualified. I don't say the other person is not competent so I um I'm just kind of a little bit hurt by the attention in the room And they're and I you know, I trust our county staff also to stand up and actually represent what's best for the whole county Please Please we've already had public comment. We've already had public comment Please Please we've already had public comment. We we've made it pretty far with a decent amount of civility If we could try and get through the whole thing and we recognize I think the board recognizes Uh, as supervisor cap has said and supervisor we uphold eloquently said the amount of tension and issues that are associated With this There are but as supervisor, uh, coonerty also noted there's mutual exclusivity toward This decision when I've met with some of you Uh, and ask point blank. Do you feel Uh, whether one of my colleagues could represent your interests. Um, I was told no and when I've received phone calls and letters from Some of my colleagues representatives and said do you feel like another one of my colleagues could represent your interests? They said no, there was no and so the board then is is put in a situation where there is no Easy solution of where somebody's going to feel like leaving here today that they Would be represented by Any individual member that would be selected Which is tough I do appreciate, uh, that this motion doesn't Arbitrarily set a low budget. I think that, um, the numbers that were provided from Ms. Jordan were reasonable even if no additional people join. I think The county should be able to contribute somewhere in the 40 000ish range without any issue Um, I don't know whether or not This group Will have any true influence, but in some respects. I don't think that's Really what matters. I think that Abdicating the responsibility to not have a voice at the table Would be a mistake and I appreciate that there's unanimity that people feel that we should join The round table here. I do have What is kind of a technical question? I think for the cao Um, I understand in a previous conversation with ms. Jordan Um, that there was interest In allowing people to be able to participate From here remotely so that people don't continue have to drive Over the hill, uh, is there a way that we could accommodate technologically and otherwise that something be held here So people could actually provide direct input into Uh, the round table from here and actually be heard from here without having to drive over the hill And the the representatives that are selected by the cities in the county be able to participate from these chambers in a way that could actually do it Yes, I did talk to um, miss jordan about that and she did confirm that she felt it would be possible if we requested that To have a remote access to the meetings from these chambers, for example I mean that to me that's that's good news I feel like a supervisor will be uphold noted the fact that people So many of people that are in here today are also willing to drive over the hill degree I think we'd have even greater participation of people know that they could come here to participate in the round table discussion directly And have their input provided remotely to The live meetings I will say that I think that point number four on the motion seems like it was already addressed by miss jordan I don't know if it's I mean if it's important we can maintain it but it she had said that in her presentation that there would be members Of the faa and the congressional district staff already attending if if a letter just reiterating that is important That's that's fine. But I think that that's something that's already been sort of decided We do it do you have additional Is something additional? Well, I just I'll wait till you're done. I just had a couple questions. Go ahead. Well, I mean Uh, it appears as though you're supporting the idea of having the ceo or his designee But the bylaws of the round table say elected officials. Yeah, so Well, are we interested in joining this group or not because right now Staff would not be seated as part of that That that yeah, I understand and and that's that's an important that is an important point to point out in my in my conversations with santa claire county and I Please I understand that that other jurisdictions are actually making the exact same Movement toward doing exactly that Making their membership contingent. I think miss jordan has left unfortunately, but Making their membership Contingent upon that with I mean the assumption would be santa claire county san osa and other locales have already made That known that that is also what they would like to do is have that flexibility Well, so I appreciate that they've sort of make it known at least according to the rules as I understood it from Miss jordan today. I'd have to check the bylaws That it requires a two-thirds vote in order for that to happen I'm not sure how many cities there were and I know that if we had a staff member We wouldn't get a chance to vote on that so I'm pointing out I understand the the the hesitancy of my colleagues to To choose a strong advocate who's been effective that that That concerned that that representation won't Won't be for the entire county although i'm the only person who has represented from at least three districts that have said that they're interested in having me And I have written a letter to the city of santa cruz When when they had a problem in february when the f a Just changed the flight path. I wrote to them and said let's work together because nobody should be affecting this They never responded after the flight path went back, but that's another thing But we need someone at the table and I appreciate that we'll have Uh a means for people to participate In a meeting And I'm not sure if it's going to be held remotely here in santa cruz. So these folks don't have to spend hours of their day But it seems to me the county representative should be at the table that my experience says If you want something done with the f a you got to be looking him in the eye Okay, I mean nobody was mandating that they be held remotely It was just a statement that uh for accessibility purposes it seemed like something that would be advantageous But I understand that point so we do Clarify anything then with county council on the the issue of elected official or not an elected official Is anybody else on that board? They're not elected officials Right. So right now as supervisor leopold noted the current by-law state that it must be an elected official There are a number of jurisdictions that have not joined that are considering joining that are in the process of joining Uh, and there are pretty major jurisdictions like santa claire county For example in the city of san jose, which are the largest financial contributors and some of the largest participants historically That are making their Their membership contingent upon allowing the flexibility to have a non-elected official participate So it's it's anticipated, but supervisor leopold is correct those by-laws have not been modified It is anticipated that they will be modified in order to accommodate that just given the size and scope Of those jurisdictions that are interested in on that round table or the congressional representatives Expected to be at the round table. Well ironically their their staff will be yes The staff would be right Did that answer that question? I guess I guess their staff is not an elected official though. Yeah, that that is correct They would be non-voting They would be non-voting representatives anyway the congressional members would let me say during the select the 20 meetings Of the select committee there was congressional representation at every meeting. There was never a member of congress at those meetings You know, they do their their workplace is 3 000 miles away. So Uh, so their staff is often representing them at things and they're there to to make sure that the that the process Is fair and that the the fa is doing what they say they're going to do and they're backing us up in in dc And then are we voting on the alternate also? It's presented as a designee as well. So I assume that the alternate would be I guess what I'm getting at I'll ask the maker of the motion, but if we if we appointed the cao carlos palacios and then the alternate is john leopold Carlos you could call in sick When there's a meeting and then john leopold could actually end up being the one going carlos looks very unwell right now just with this discussion And he anticipates being sick at every meeting under that circumstance Uh, but I think that the maker of the motion Well, the maker of the motion can explain his designee from the ceo's office So the expectation would be that it would be The ceo and then whoever he designates from within his staff at the ceo's office Well, I'd go for john leopold being the alternate So we okay, but that's not what the motion that's on the floor is an amendment then friendly amendment just Point the ceo and then john leopold would be the alternate second Okay, well, we have to vote on the on the amendment to the motion Which is just to make the ceo or his designee the primary member and then supervisor leopold as the alternate Which I think is It's already difficult enough under this motion for the ceo and I think that puts the ceo in a remarkably difficult position to have Uh, one of his Five bosses be Technically underneath him in the position. I think it's an unfair spot just from us just from a A position of of the fact that he works for us So I won't be supporting that motion because I don't think that's unfair the ceo But all those in favor of the secondary motion say aye. Hi. All right opposed Are you voting yes or no? No, okay All those opposed no, okay, so it fails three to two we go back to the original motion Wait, I'm sorry The motion was on the alternate and the ceo. Yeah, and so now it reverts back to the original motion And who voted for it was just two of us. Yeah Okay, that's clear. So the original sure The original motion, uh, is to adopt a resolution of the county santa chris to join the round table and direct the ceo to sign the mo Uh with the following conditions the county's rep will be the ceo or his designee from ceo's office The county will join for a year and the ceo will evaluate the effectiveness and benefits that participate in the round table Uh before continuing the membership and submit the information to the board The chair of the board will write a letter to the f a and congressional representatives requesting that representatives from the f a And the affected congressional districts attend all round table meetings as they represent the federal entities who hold the authority to implement recommendations generated by the round table And lastly that the ceo or designee is the county's representative on the round table represent the county of santa chris With the direction from this board that the representative worked to relieve the immediate impacts of jet noise for those currently experiencing that impact That moving the noise to another Part of the county that's what's the motion that's before us and there's a motion in a second So now we'll be voting on that motion. I know You're making it tough My whole thing was the Questioning the competence of members of our board when we turned down Supervisor Leopold For being the alternate we're basically saying he's not qualified or is you know, we're questioning his competence now. We're coming back to the Original reason why I'm going one way instead of the other supervisor. Let me just say from the mate When I made this motion I am in no way questioning the competence of any supervisor up here to represent What I'm am questioning is whether one supervisor can represent Not just his district, but the entire county and for people when when they have Hundreds of mobilized constituents saying we want one thing and a county policy And and potential impacts on other districts. I think it's best to have a neutral staff member who is going to Work under this these guidelines. We've we've given him To represent the county to the best extent possible Okay, and that's based on the fact that they would be able to vote at the Round table Even though they're not an elected official I I would expect that the bylaws will change because I have my understanding that santa clara And other jurisdictions which are large contributors and would be important to add to the The influence of this round table would not participate unless they're going to change these bylaws So, um, not only would if we all can't participate Everyone else's bills go up And their influence goes down. So I would imagine there's an incentive among the round table members to allow The flexibility to have staff represent us. Let me let me Hold on. Let me just offer just a slightly different perspective with respect with all due respect to my colleague The Let's be clear What we've heard what was written in the paper yesterday is that it's not our decision. It's the f a decision So the fact that santa clara county or the city of san jose doesn't want to participate. It's the f a at the table So there's no guarantee that that santa clara or city of san jose will be any more effective Um about changing these rules than anybody else and their participation in it does not Indicate that they will not that this group will not be effective with the federal aviation administration So what what this motion proposes is that we take a leap of faith that Somehow the bylaws are going to change that That we've designated a staff member who is not eligible currently to participate To represent the needs of tens of thousands of people who are currently affected and which we could all agree Um deserve representation with the f a a and this is our only means I think I think that that it would be better for us to appoint a member of the Of this of this board to serve on there They can give them direction about what it is you'd like to request that um that we live with that uh nomination if that this uh board does chooses not to accept it And that we have An ad a strong advocate for all people in santa cruz county I've I've uh, I have lots of constituents here because they're the ones who are currently affected But my work on the select committee these recommendations, which now even though Not everybody voted on it are held as sacred that these nine pieces are somehow Uh, that was a creation that was I led the creation of those nine pieces. So, um, you I've worked very hard to make sure that this doesn't impact anyone in santa cruz county And I'd like to continue to do that, but we should at least have a representative that can vote The first day this round table meets I don't want to get into a back and forth But those recommendations those criteria could only garner A two to two vote of the representatives from this county And then You said you just said that the tens of thousands of people who are currently affected deserve representation And I got a plos line But you didn't say or the hundreds of thousands of people that could be impacted You you are passionate about this issue because your constituents are deeply impacted and you're going to represent it But you're not please. Please. Please. You're not In this you aren't saying and I will fight just as hard because if that flight path gets moved This will be full of constituents from another districts And I will fight just as hard. I'll keep it over my district until I know That with a hundred percent certainty that it will that it's going to be uh, that it won't impact anybody else Is an a promise is unwilling to make so I would prefer And I would and I in this in this in your shoes I would do the exact same thing and until I would fight Please don't ascribe your motives to me. Yes. All right. I have worked very hard to represent Everyone in santa cruz county. I heard hours and hours of testimony from people in santa cruz county I pushed to make sure that we had a meeting here in santa cruz county where hundreds of people Showed up. I have answered Countless number of emails pro and con I have made myself available at public meetings and I have listened To concerns some of the some of the people who don't support me made assertions today that were factually not accurate There may have been people who support me who also made statements that are factually not accurate But uh, I've been working hard to represent everyone and if you look at that at that recommendation It was designed to be less impactful than what had been over santa cruz county for decades So i'm not i'm not ceding the point that somehow I won't represent The gentleman in in uh in this uh first row or that there are the tens of thousands of your constituents I am going to work hard to make sure they never experience What the people in the red shirts here have experienced I know that from experience And when when city of santa cruz Was faced this in february because of of of a publishing error on the part of the fAA I offered my hand to say let's work together. So that's that's my commitment To this so I don't I just don't buy the frame that somehow I won't represent everybody in santa cruz county Okay My supervisor first in has called uh the question We can We're supposed to vote immediately on calling the question, but unless people Can we just vote on the motion or we'd rather vote on calling the question All right, let's just vote on calling the question all those in favor of ending debate on this motion Please say aye. Aye opposed. No, okay So it's three to two now we move back to the original motion and we're going to vote on the motion as stands All those in favor of the motion as presented say aye Aye opposed. No, okay. It passes four to one. Supervisor leopold. Oh, I'm sorry. Did you vote no? I What was second motion? I thought the motion from supervisor coonerty that was presented that was handed out to you that we already read out Right. Yeah, I'm voting. No, okay. So the vote is a three to two vote then And that is uh for the combined items eight and nine Yeah, okay Based on the alternate part. Yes So the only thing that we have left is closed session. Is there anything reportable from closed session? Depending on your vote. Yes. Is there anybody from the community like to address us on the closed session item? council do you want to give the The board is considering based on facts and circumstances whether to file a lawsuit against a party to be named after the filing of the lawsuit That has that's a closed session. It has nothing to do with the fa So the board then is going to go into closed session But we're recessed because we have a seven o'clock item tonight in Watsonville on zone seven Which is uh, the board of directors Santa Cruz county flood control and water conservation district will convene and carry out a regularly scheduled meeting Beginning at seven at the civic center plaza in Watsonville sir recess until seven I will not be at the meeting this evening. Uh, it's the beginning of a jewish holiday and I will be gone